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From the New York Times news section:

The Oscars Now Have D.E.I. Rules, but Some Say It’s Just a Performance

How “Oppenheimer,” a movie about the men who developed the atomic bomb, met the new standards.

By Jeremy W. Peters and Brooks Barnes

Jeremy Peters and Brooks Barnes spoke to current and former film industry insiders about Hollywood’s grappling with representation on and off camera.

March 8, 2024

The national reckoning over racial justice after the killing of George Floyd

My impression is that the term “racial reckoning” has largely been dropped from hard news sections of newspapers (e.g., political news) after the Biden Administration figured out sometime in mid-2022 that the George Floyd craze was a vote loser and put out the word to the MSM to ease off. But the soft sections in the back of the book weren’t CCed on the memo, so still adore the concept of the racial reckoning.

spurred many of the country’s most distinguished institutions into action, few more so than the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

After years of criticism for overlooking female directors and actors of color, the academy announced a torrent of diversity-oriented changes. One high-profile move involved the academy’s most coveted trophy: To qualify for the best picture Oscar, films had to fulfill a new set of diversity and inclusion standards.

This new rule, enforced for the first time for this Sunday’s ceremony, is complicated and expansive.

A checklist of four categories and nine subcategories cover almost every aspect of the filmmaking pipeline. Diversity in hiring — actors, directors, makeup artists, publicists, interns — is considered. So is the movie’s plot. To qualify, films must show that they meet two of the four main categories of representation: onscreen (actors, plot), offscreen leadership (set designers, makeup artists), training programs and marketing. …

But critics from an array of perspectives in the film industry have described the standards as the equivalent of tinsel — flimsy and showy — doing more to gild Hollywood’s image than to help people the movie business has long overlooked.

Caption : An image from the movie “Oppenheimer” that shows Cillian Murphy in a crowd that is very homogeneous.

Executives at some of the major film companies, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they did not want to appear anti-inclusion, said that the diversity mandates have changed little about how they make movies, largely because the standards are so easily met.

The director Spike Lee, whose films often explore the country’s tortured history with racism, has said that while he thinks the academy’s “heart is in the right place,” the standards contain “a lot of loopholes.” Mr. Lee, who declined to comment further, has also said that nothing will change unless the studio gatekeepers who greenlight films come from more diverse backgrounds. …

… Then there is “Oppenheimer,” which received 13 nominations, and is widely seen by awards handicappers as the front-runner for the top Oscar. The film has profound themes and euphoric reviews — exactly the kind of work the academy often honors.

But because of its historical context, the cast is nearly all white. The biographical film, directed by Christopher Nolan, is set largely during World War II, when the military and most of American society was still segregated. Its plot — about the classified program to develop the atomic bomb — is centered on powerful and privileged men who work at the nation’s most elite academic institutions.

The Manhattan Project was a hotbed of white male privilege. It’s amazing the Fat Man bomb went off at all without Hidden Figures to check von Neumann’s math.

“Oppenheimer” still easily met the diversity requirements for Best Picture.

… Proponents of the standards said they were never meant to be a panacea for Hollywood’s representation problems but a way to start a larger conversation about diversity.

… The academy has been under criticism for years, especially after the “Oscars So White” movement in 2015 and 2016, when voters put forward all-white acting nominees.

They say that DEI is dying, but the NYT has to still be deep in thrall to DEImania to publish an article complaining that the Academy Awards’ new quotas didn’t stop Christopher Nolan from making a serious, original movie on an important topic intended to lure grown-ups with three digit IQs back to the movie theaters that made $900 million at the box office.

Too bad Google Gemini AI wasn’t around back when Nolan cast Oppenheimer to help a lesbian Samoan get the title role instead of Irishman Cillian Murphy.

Here’s my review of Oppenheimer from last summer.

… As loose as the new rules appear to be, there are still issues of exclusion. More than 250 Hollywood insiders signed an open letter in January imploring the academy to revise its standards to include Jews. …

 
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  1. Sam Waterston made a far better Oppenheimer than Murphy.

    More Jewy, simple as.

    Let’s keep it real dudes, just add darkies to the ballast; executive director etcetera.

    • Replies: @CalCooledge
    @Gordo

    Meeting the DEI requirements and still making a good movie is simple: make all the 'diverse' people "First Officer of DEI", then send them on a permanent lunch break. Then with the deadweight out of the way, make a good movie.

    , @Hibernian
    @Gordo

    Arch WASP Sam Waterston? A little ironic.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppenheimer_(TV_series)

    I've watched Season 20, and am watching Season 18, of Law and Order. I have to endure the kicked upstairs Waterston (as DA) in return for seeing a show with Sisto/Anderson/De La Garza/Pierce (Executive ADA) that at least faintly resembles seasons 1 to 4 with Dzundza/Sorvino/Orbach/Florek/Noth/Moriarty (also Executive ADA). S. Epatha Merkeson, Florek's replacement as LT of the Detectives, is not as bad as Waterston but is miscast. She should guest star occasionally as a school principal.

    Waterston would be believable as the AG if the United States in a Democratic administration, at least carter/Clinton and maybe Obama.

    , @SFG
    @Gordo

    That basically seems to be what they’re doing in many cases according to the article.

  2. “Oppenheimer” still easily met the diversity requirements for Best Picture.

    How? You ought to have quoted that part.

    • Replies: @40 Lashes Less One
    @IHTG

    One of the ways is have behind the scenes people be DEI.

    , @Currahee
    @IHTG

    Simple: Jewish characters dominated the drama and they consider themselves to be nonwhite. Just ask them.

    , @Anon
    @IHTG



    “Oppenheimer” still easily met the diversity requirements for Best Picture.
     
    How? You ought to have quoted that part.
     
    This is every concrete “loophole” used by “Oppenheimer” mentioned in the article:

    “Oppenheimer” still easily met the diversity requirements for Best Picture.

    It cleared one standard for offscreen hiring because nearly a dozen women held senior positions on the crew, including costume designer, set designer, editor and head hairstylist. At least one senior role was filled by someone from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group: the head of makeup, Luisa Abel, who is Hispanic.

    Even without those hiring decisions, “Oppenheimer” would have qualified. That is because its studio, Universal, has created in-house programs, in-career training and audience development that help satisfy the rules for almost every picture it makes.

    Since 2021, Universal has operated an extensive crew training program for underrepresented individuals. The majority of Universal movies participate, and “Oppenheimer” was no exception.

    Universal, more so than some other studios, also has a diverse marketing and distribution team, including Dwight Caines, the studio’s president of domestic marketing, who is Black. (All of his counterparts at other major studios are white.)
     
    , @jb
    @IHTG


    “Oppenheimer” still easily met the diversity requirements for Best Picture.

    It cleared one standard for offscreen hiring because nearly a dozen women held senior positions on the crew, including costume designer, set designer, editor and head hairstylist. At least one senior role was filled by someone from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group: the head of makeup, Luisa Abel, who is Hispanic.

    Even without those hiring decisions, “Oppenheimer” would have qualified. That is because its studio, Universal, has created in-house programs, in-career training and audience development that help satisfy the rules for almost every picture it makes.

    Since 2021, Universal has operated an extensive crew training program for underrepresented individuals. The majority of Universal movies participate, and “Oppenheimer” was no exception.

    Universal, more so than some other studios, also has a diverse marketing and distribution team, including Dwight Caines, the studio’s president of domestic marketing, who is Black. (All of his counterparts at other major studios are white.)
     
  3. powerful and privileged men who work at the nation’s most elite academic institutions.

    These were smart men rather than powerful or privileged. Oppenheimer’s father arrived penniless and without speaking English in 1888.

    According to Wikipedia:

    He was hired by a textile company and within a decade was an executive there, eventually becoming wealthy.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Robert_Oppenheimer

    • Thanks: J.Ross
    • Replies: @James J. O'Meara
    @Frau Katze


    These were smart men rather than powerful or privileged. Oppenheimer’s father arrived penniless and without speaking English in 1888.
     
    Unless by "powerful" or "privileged" you mean "plugged himself into an ethnic network."

    He was hired by a textile company and within a decade was an executive there, eventually becoming wealthy.[8] In 1912, the family moved to an apartment on Riverside Drive near West 88th Street, Manhattan, an area known for luxurious mansions and townhouses.[6] Their art collection included works by Pablo Picasso, Édouard Vuillard, and Vincent van Gogh.
     
    As the typical "textile executive" does.

    That's going to be my new euphemism: "Uh oh, looks like a lot of textile executives have moved in."

    Replies: @Hibernian

    , @Jack D
    @Frau Katze

    Julius (aka J. Robert) himself grew up in privilege. The movie raises this as a point of friction between himself and Lewis Strauss, who was himself a self-made man. Strauss was intimidated and intellectually threatened by the well educated and snooty, privileged Oppenheimer and this led in part to Strauss trying to cut Oppenheimer down a notch.

    von Neumann also had a very privileged background. However, some of the scientists (e.g. Feynman) grew up in very modest circumstances.

    But yes, in general the upward mobility of the Jews was remarkable. I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did. I think it's hilarious/sad when they interview some illegal alien who has been here for 20 years and the interview is in Spanish because in 20 years said alien hasn't learned two words of Ingles.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad, @Art Deco, @kaganovitch

  4. So pleased to see my beautiful Ashkenazi brothers and sisters of color finally get a bit of representation in Hollywood!

    • LOL: Redneck Farmer
    • Replies: @Thomm
    @Pixo

    If all of the world’s people were Ashkenazi Jews, human society would be about 350 years more advanced today than it is now. Their excellence in science, entertainment, finance, law, economics, literature, and more would be able to manifest on a much larger scale. Plus, if everyone is Jewish, there are no non-Jews for them to manipulate, so they will work in unison towards the big picture.

    The technological level would be comparable to what we see in Star Trek : The Next Generation. We would have warp drive, replicators, holodecks, and an interstellar civilization by now. We would already have started spreading out across the galaxy.

    This, of course, requires the genetic component of Ashkenazi Jews. Converting WN wiggers (avg. IQ: 70) to Judaism will not suddenly add 40+ points to their respective IQs.

    Even non-Jews with Jewish names, such as Morris Seligman Dees and Whoopi Goldberg (who still retains her original legal name Caryn Johnson) became much more successful than they would have been without the Jewish name. Ms. Johnson gave it to herself, so is even smarter than Mr. Dees. Ms. Johnson is an EGOT, only the fourth woman and first black person to complete the quartet of major awards. It is safe to say her talent is not on par with previous EGOT winners like Rita Moreno.

    Hey, it is true. The WN wiggers here routinely say that if all humans where black Africans, we would still be at around 1500 BC. By that same token, if all humans were Ashkenazi Jews, we would be 350 years ahead of where we are today.

    Thanks,
    - Mordecai Velvel Rabinowitz

    Replies: @awry, @QCIC, @pyrrhus, @Redneck Farmer, @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Slim, @AndrewR

    , @AnotherDad
    @Pixo


    So pleased to see my beautiful Ashkenazi brothers and sisters of color finally get a bit of representation in Hollywood!
     
    Funny Pixo ... but you've already admitted that rather than marrying back into the Tribe, you've gone full shiska and cast your children's lot with the Aryan brotherhood.

    Replies: @Pixo, @SFG

  5. “It’s amazing the Fat Man bomb went off at all without Hidden Figures to check von Neumann’s math.”

    That’s a great line. I wish I’d written it. Thanks.

    • Replies: @George
    @OldJewishGuy

    "It’s amazing the Fat Man bomb went off at all without Hidden Figures to check von Neumann’s math."

    "His physics was good", said his student Snyder, "but his arithmetic awful."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Robert_Oppenheimer

  6. Didn’t anyone ask gargle AI to paint a picture of the Manhattan project guys……..not casting Oppenheimer as a disabled black lesbian trans woman is an outrage!

  7. But because of its historical context, the cast is nearly all white. The biographical film, directed by Christopher Nolan, is set largely during World War II, when the military and most of American society was still segregated. Its plot — about the classified program to develop the atomic bomb — is centered on powerful and privileged men who work at the nation’s most elite academic institutions.

    Yes, the Manhattan Project was just like a pre-WWII WASP country club. No Jews allowed.

    Oops, no, scratch that. Never mind.

    Groves had to make a devil’s bargain. He could either let a bunch of Jews and Communists and Jewish Communists and Communist Jews and Communist Jew Commies with funny foreign accents work on the bomb or he could not have a bomb (at least not before the war was over).

    It would be like trying to do some sort of large project today that requires hiring a lot of college professors but you could only hire the ones who were registered Republicans. You could forget about it because there wouldn’t be enough of them to do the project.

    Still I am amazed that Nolan did not sneak in at least a few blacks – only a director of Nolan’s stature could have gotten away with this. Otherwise there are blacks in all sorts of historical movies where they don’t belong nowadays. It’s almost mandatory.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    (1) You're voluntarily bringing up Fuchs?
    (2) You white. You so white. You so white fo' real.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    , @James J. O'Meara
    @Jack D


    Groves had to make a devil’s bargain. He could either let a bunch of Jews and Communists and Jewish Communists and Communist Jews and Communist Jew Commies with funny foreign accents work on the bomb or he could not have a bomb (at least not before the war was over).
     
    Or, he could have asked himself why these people in particular were the only ones demanding a bomb. After he answered that question, he could then perhaps re-evaluate whether he was on the wrong side (as Patton later concluded).

    Replies: @Jack D, @SFG, @Wokechoke, @IHTG

    , @tyrone
    @Jack D


    Jewish Communists and Communist Jews
     
    And so the Soviet Union popped smoke in 1949

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Nachum
    @Jack D

    Well, the movie Atonement (2007) very prominently stuck a black soldier at Dunkirk. Ten years later, Nolan made a movie all about Dunkirk, not a black person to be seen. (In the same year, a movie about Churchill at that same moment had him being inspired by a classics-quoting black man he meets on the Underground.)

    Could be Nolan just doesn't care.

    Replies: @Prester John

    , @MEH 0910
    @Jack D


    Still I am amazed that Nolan did not sneak in at least a few blacks – only a director of Nolan’s stature could have gotten away with this.
     
    In a couple of blink-and-you'll-miss-it moments, a black female student briefly appears in the scene of Oppenheimer teaching his growing class at Caltech in Berkeley (0:18:44), and a black male scientist escorts Oppenheimer at his visit to the University of Chicago (1:07:26).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Ernest_Wilkins_Jr.


    Jesse Ernest Wilkins Jr. (November 27, 1923 – May 1, 2011)[1] was an American nuclear scientist, mechanical engineer and mathematician. A child prodigy, he attended the University of Chicago at the age of 13, becoming its youngest ever student.[2][3][4] His graduation at a young age resulted in him being hailed as "the Negro Genius" in the national media.[5]
    [...]
    Wilkins was one of the African American scientists and technicians on the Manhattan Project during the Second World War.
    [...]
    Wilkins is portrayed by Ronald Auguste in the 2023 film Oppenheimer,[21] [22] [23]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_scientists_and_technicians_on_the_Manhattan_Project
    https://www.businessinsider.com/manhattan-project-oppenheimer-black-scientists-history-atomic-bomb-science-2023-7

    Replies: @Jack D

  8. @Jack D

    But because of its historical context, the cast is nearly all white. The biographical film, directed by Christopher Nolan, is set largely during World War II, when the military and most of American society was still segregated. Its plot — about the classified program to develop the atomic bomb — is centered on powerful and privileged men who work at the nation’s most elite academic institutions.
     
    Yes, the Manhattan Project was just like a pre-WWII WASP country club. No Jews allowed.

    Oops, no, scratch that. Never mind.

    Groves had to make a devil's bargain. He could either let a bunch of Jews and Communists and Jewish Communists and Communist Jews and Communist Jew Commies with funny foreign accents work on the bomb or he could not have a bomb (at least not before the war was over).

    It would be like trying to do some sort of large project today that requires hiring a lot of college professors but you could only hire the ones who were registered Republicans. You could forget about it because there wouldn't be enough of them to do the project.

    Still I am amazed that Nolan did not sneak in at least a few blacks - only a director of Nolan's stature could have gotten away with this. Otherwise there are blacks in all sorts of historical movies where they don't belong nowadays. It's almost mandatory.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @James J. O'Meara, @tyrone, @Nachum, @MEH 0910

    (1) You’re voluntarily bringing up Fuchs?
    (2) You white. You so white. You so white fo’ real.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    Fuchs wasn’t a Jew. He was born a Lutheran German. His father became a pacifist after WW1.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

  9. Anon[598] • Disclaimer says:

    Sailer wants to know why special exceptions always seem to apply to (((white))) men.

    Is Steve just playing dumb at this point?

    Could it be the same reason that Jews are allowed to be admitted way above their representative share of the overall population at the Ivies – something like 10 to 20+% when they make up just 2% of the overall population? (While white gentiles are vastly underrepresented relative to, not only merit, but their absolute fraction of the general population.)

    Could it be the same reason that Jews are allowed to make up over half of the top positions in Biden’s Cabinet?

    For some reason, the demands that those in positions of power and prestige be “representative” of the general population never seems to apply to Jews who are always given special exemption from suffering the same consequences of affirmative action as white gentiles are.

    Notably, despite all the universalistic rhetoric, similar vast Jewish overrepresentation in positions of authority also occurred in the USSR. Because, as Orwell observed: All animals are equal but some animals are just more equal than others.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Anon

    I used to think that Steve was being clever, but now, I'm beginning to think that he really is confused about why certain things happen.

    Despite almost daily mocking of the MSM, Steve never asks who pays for all of this silliness. I think willful ignorance is a prerequisite for Steve's class.

    I mean, Charles Murray recently tweeted that he couldn't think of one negative thing about Jews being allowed to rise to their level of prominence over the past 200 years. Not one.

    Steve lives in that same world.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @mc23, @Renard

    , @JimDandy
    @Anon

    The crime of noticing black behavior is isn't a very big deal when compared to the crime of noticing certain other groups' behavior.

  10. This sounds insane. If the best work of art has a racially undiverse cast, you will stop it? I could care less if the best movie is 100% white or 100% black. Or 100% male or 100% female. Qui gives a shit?

    Someone should look at the standards and try to deliberately violate them (but with a kickass film), just to get the talking point of how the movie was kept out of the Oscars because of it.

    P.s. Oppenheimer was a snooze. Another too loud score from Nolan. Silly movie also. Too bad as he is capable of good things.

  11. @Pixo
    So pleased to see my beautiful Ashkenazi brothers and sisters of color finally get a bit of representation in Hollywood!

    https://www.jta.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/camp-photo2.jpg

    Replies: @Thomm, @AnotherDad

    If all of the world’s people were Ashkenazi Jews, human society would be about 350 years more advanced today than it is now. Their excellence in science, entertainment, finance, law, economics, literature, and more would be able to manifest on a much larger scale. Plus, if everyone is Jewish, there are no non-Jews for them to manipulate, so they will work in unison towards the big picture.

    The technological level would be comparable to what we see in Star Trek : The Next Generation. We would have warp drive, replicators, holodecks, and an interstellar civilization by now. We would already have started spreading out across the galaxy.

    This, of course, requires the genetic component of Ashkenazi Jews. Converting WN wiggers (avg. IQ: 70) to Judaism will not suddenly add 40+ points to their respective IQs.

    Even non-Jews with Jewish names, such as Morris Seligman Dees and Whoopi Goldberg (who still retains her original legal name Caryn Johnson) became much more successful than they would have been without the Jewish name. Ms. Johnson gave it to herself, so is even smarter than Mr. Dees. Ms. Johnson is an EGOT, only the fourth woman and first black person to complete the quartet of major awards. It is safe to say her talent is not on par with previous EGOT winners like Rita Moreno.

    Hey, it is true. The WN wiggers here routinely say that if all humans where black Africans, we would still be at around 1500 BC. By that same token, if all humans were Ashkenazi Jews, we would be 350 years ahead of where we are today.

    Thanks,
    – Mordecai Velvel Rabinowitz

    • Thanks: Pixo
    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @awry
    @Thomm

    Bullshit. The world would be a big Ukrainian shtetl, with Kosher butchers, fiddlers on the roof, lewd housewives, milk boys etc.
    The smartest jids would hone their skills with Talmudic hair-splitting debates.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @SFG

    , @QCIC
    @Thomm

    Morty,

    This doesn't ring true. It seems modern Jewish achievements have largely been empowered by interaction with the host society.

    +++

    Did you mean 15,000 BC?

    Replies: @Sir Didymus

    , @pyrrhus
    @Thomm

    Factual problem...until the 20th century, Jews contributed virtually nothing to science...

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @mc23

    , @Redneck Farmer
    @Thomm

    ".. so they will work together in unison for the big picture." How's that usually work for Israel?

    , @Anonymous
    @Thomm

    'Thomm' is a subcon.

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Thomm


    Plus, if everyone is Jewish, there are no non-Jews for them to manipulate, so they will work in unison towards the big picture.

    The technological level would be comparable to what we see in Star Trek : The Next Generation. We would have warp drive, replicators, holodecks, and an interstellar civilization by now. We would already have started spreading out across the galaxy. [bold added]
     
    You've often been accused of being a subcon, but it seems you've (accidentally?) come out as a Jew. Interesting.

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    , @Slim
    @Thomm

    But they'd starve without farmers.

    , @AndrewR
    @Thomm

    You have to go back

  12. @Jack D

    But because of its historical context, the cast is nearly all white. The biographical film, directed by Christopher Nolan, is set largely during World War II, when the military and most of American society was still segregated. Its plot — about the classified program to develop the atomic bomb — is centered on powerful and privileged men who work at the nation’s most elite academic institutions.
     
    Yes, the Manhattan Project was just like a pre-WWII WASP country club. No Jews allowed.

    Oops, no, scratch that. Never mind.

    Groves had to make a devil's bargain. He could either let a bunch of Jews and Communists and Jewish Communists and Communist Jews and Communist Jew Commies with funny foreign accents work on the bomb or he could not have a bomb (at least not before the war was over).

    It would be like trying to do some sort of large project today that requires hiring a lot of college professors but you could only hire the ones who were registered Republicans. You could forget about it because there wouldn't be enough of them to do the project.

    Still I am amazed that Nolan did not sneak in at least a few blacks - only a director of Nolan's stature could have gotten away with this. Otherwise there are blacks in all sorts of historical movies where they don't belong nowadays. It's almost mandatory.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @James J. O'Meara, @tyrone, @Nachum, @MEH 0910

    Groves had to make a devil’s bargain. He could either let a bunch of Jews and Communists and Jewish Communists and Communist Jews and Communist Jew Commies with funny foreign accents work on the bomb or he could not have a bomb (at least not before the war was over).

    Or, he could have asked himself why these people in particular were the only ones demanding a bomb. After he answered that question, he could then perhaps re-evaluate whether he was on the wrong side (as Patton later concluded).

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @James J. O'Meara

    Groves did not make the decision on whether or not to build a bomb. That would have been FDR. His job was to carry out the mission assigned to him by his superiors, which was to oversee the building of a bomb and all the facilities necessary to build a bomb and not decide whether it was a good idea to build a bomb. Groves had overseen the building of the Pentagon in record time so they thought that he was the man for the job. He was well aware of the security risks posed by his herd of cats but he had no choice but to use them if he was to finish the job because the Ven diagram of red blooded non Leftist white Christian American patriotic men and brilliant nuclear scientists did not overlap very much. If he had refused then the Army would have gotten someone else.

    Patton had some pretty strange views. If we had not built the bomb then someone else would have, with or without Soviet spies.

    , @SFG
    @James J. O'Meara

    Wait, so they were in a world war with the world's foremost industrial power that had defeated several countries, and you're saying he wanted a superweapon *because the Jews tricked him*?

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Wokechoke
    @James J. O'Meara

    That’s the wrinkle in the story. These Jews wanted to incinerate Berlin not Japanese cities.

    , @IHTG
    @James J. O'Meara

    One could argue that Groves got the better of those Communist Jews since the bomb ended up being used exclusively on non-whites.

  13. “Fat Man” and “Little Boy” are triggering.

  14. didn’t stop Christopher Nolan from making a serious, original movie on an important topic intended to lure grown-ups with three digit IQs back to the movie theaters that made $900 million at the box office.

    I didn’t think it was serious and it was not original in a good way. If Oppenheimer is considered a good film then I haven’t been lured back.

    • Replies: @From Beer to Paternity
    @martin_2

    I didn’t think it was serious and it was not original in a good way. If Oppenheimer is considered a good film then I haven’t been lured back.

    It was decent enough for me to sit through it without falling asleep. But in the theater I was in, it was so freaking loud that I found myself wishing I had the hearing protection that I'd use when shooting.

    When the Trinity test was depicted, at least I was prepared and it was cool. Was Feynman really doing that silly bongo playing after the test? Wonder how many caught that. I know it was a schtick of his, but I'm curious if he was really that goofy. I doubt it (but he definitely had an ego proportional w/ his IQ).

    It was a movie. I kept wanting a big-ass bucket of popcorn with extra butter. And hearing protection.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  15. @Frau Katze

    powerful and privileged men who work at the nation’s most elite academic institutions.
     
    These were smart men rather than powerful or privileged. Oppenheimer’s father arrived penniless and without speaking English in 1888.

    According to Wikipedia:

    He was hired by a textile company and within a decade was an executive there, eventually becoming wealthy.
     
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Robert_Oppenheimer

    Replies: @James J. O'Meara, @Jack D

    These were smart men rather than powerful or privileged. Oppenheimer’s father arrived penniless and without speaking English in 1888.

    Unless by “powerful” or “privileged” you mean “plugged himself into an ethnic network.”

    He was hired by a textile company and within a decade was an executive there, eventually becoming wealthy.[8] In 1912, the family moved to an apartment on Riverside Drive near West 88th Street, Manhattan, an area known for luxurious mansions and townhouses.[6] Their art collection included works by Pablo Picasso, Édouard Vuillard, and Vincent van Gogh.

    As the typical “textile executive” does.

    That’s going to be my new euphemism: “Uh oh, looks like a lot of textile executives have moved in.”

    • LOL: AlmaMater
    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @James J. O'Meara

    Nineteenth century New England textile barons had names like Lowell, as in Lowell MA, and also as in "Boston is a fine old town in the land of Cod, where the Lowells speak only to the Cabots, and the Cabots speak only to God.

  16. @Frau Katze

    powerful and privileged men who work at the nation’s most elite academic institutions.
     
    These were smart men rather than powerful or privileged. Oppenheimer’s father arrived penniless and without speaking English in 1888.

    According to Wikipedia:

    He was hired by a textile company and within a decade was an executive there, eventually becoming wealthy.
     
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Robert_Oppenheimer

    Replies: @James J. O'Meara, @Jack D

    Julius (aka J. Robert) himself grew up in privilege. The movie raises this as a point of friction between himself and Lewis Strauss, who was himself a self-made man. Strauss was intimidated and intellectually threatened by the well educated and snooty, privileged Oppenheimer and this led in part to Strauss trying to cut Oppenheimer down a notch.

    von Neumann also had a very privileged background. However, some of the scientists (e.g. Feynman) grew up in very modest circumstances.

    But yes, in general the upward mobility of the Jews was remarkable. I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did. I think it’s hilarious/sad when they interview some illegal alien who has been here for 20 years and the interview is in Spanish because in 20 years said alien hasn’t learned two words of Ingles.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Jack D

    But not all the scientists on the Manhattan Project were Jews, although they were over represented.

    Some who weren’t: Enrico Fermi, Hans Bethe (apparently his mother had a Jewish background but was not raised in the faith), Glen T Seaborg (Swedish descent), Klaus Fuchs (spy, German Protestant), Luis Walter Alvarez (Catholic of Spanish descent), Neils Bohr (Danish).

    There’s plenty more.

    Replies: @Jack D, @SFG, @Bardon Kaldian, @Ben Kurtz

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    But yes, in general the upward mobility of the Jews was remarkable. I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did.
     
    Jack, c'mon. We know you are lying, because we've been told endlessly that America--before the Jews bravely fought to take charge--was an oppressive hell-hole, full of racist, anti-Semites at Waspy Acres Country Club constantly scheming to hold Jews back, by enjoying a round of golf or drinks without Jewish humor and stopping Jewish boys from trying to bone their shiksa goddess daughters. (Deeply offensive to Jews, of course, known for their commitment to integration, and hatred of tribal endogamy.)

    Now you're trying to tell us Jews could just show up, use their smarts and get ahead. Liar!

    Replies: @Pixo, @Jack D

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    But yes, in general the upward mobility of the Jews was remarkable. I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did. I think it’s hilarious/sad when they interview some illegal alien who has been here for 20 years and the interview is in Spanish because in 20 years said alien hasn’t learned two words of Ingles.
     
    Jack, I suggest you spend a moment and contemplate your own paragraph here.

    While hardly complete, the bookends alone are telling.

    Yeah, America has been very, very good to the Jews.
    The reverse ... uh ... not so much.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @Erik L

    , @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    How was Oppenheimer privileged? In what venue could his old man put in a fix for him?

    Replies: @Jack D, @J.Ross

    , @kaganovitch
    @Jack D


    I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did. I think it’s hilarious/sad when they interview some illegal alien who has been here for 20 years and the interview is in Spanish because in 20 years said alien hasn’t learned two words of Ingles.
     
    I have family with a similar career trajectory, but to be fair I knew many Jewish immigrants who learned no English and conducted their lives entirely in Yiddish. If one lives in an ethnic enclave as these immigrants did and do, one can get away with that.

    Replies: @Jack D

  17. As I posted previously, Christopher Nolan, although born a Brit, does Jewish filmmaking: Materialistic, intellectual, with dissension and contentiousness featuring strongly and putting a spring into the heels of the various actors. Thus, the Hollywood Jewish mafia embraced the style and ethos of his work. As did the film critics who worked for the mainstream media, because they knew what was good for them. So that’s how he got away with it.

    Btw, as I detailed before, “Past Lives” is a better film. The Ebert.com panel rated it as the number-two movie of 2023, so it is not just a SafeNow recommendation. Ebert.com placed “Oppenheimer” close behind at number three. (But I personally believe past lives is far better .)

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @SafeNow

    "Dunkirk" was an extremely boring film, despite it depicting events in which two family members were closely involved, and despite my large-ish amount of background reading on the subject.



    Biden in April 2020 -

    "The Russian economy is on track to be cut in half. It was ranked the 11th biggest economy in the world before this invasion — and soon, it will not even rank among the top 20."

    https://twitter.com/potus/status/1507842574865866763

    GDP totals, 2022 by PPP in dollar terms, World Bank figures

    1 China 30,337,137
    2 United States 25,439,700
    3 India 11,904,797
    4 Japan 5,703,678
    5 Russian Federation 5,326,855
    6 Germany 5,323,007
    7 Indonesia 4,038,239
    8 Brazil 3,838,532
    9 France 3,764,759
    10 United Kingdom 3,678,728


    https://datacatalogfiles.worldbank.org/ddh-published/0038129/DR0046438/GDP_PPP.pdf?versionId=2023-12-21T17:03:06.7589486Z

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Jack D

    , @Muggles
    @SafeNow


    As I posted previously, Christopher Nolan, although born a Brit, does Jewish filmmaking: Materialistic, intellectual, with dissension and contentiousness featuring strongly and putting a spring into the heels of the various actors. Thus, the Hollywood Jewish mafia embraced the style and ethos of his work. As did the film critics who worked for the mainstream media, because they knew what was good for them. So that’s how he got away with it.
     
    So a successful British born filmmaker, now American, is successful only because "Hollywood Jews like his work."

    The fact that the ticket buying public likes his work, seems to be irrelevant.

    When everything is about "the Jews", then nothing is anything else.

    True the Jewish influence via personalities in Hollywood has been quite noticeable, but so what? It's not like they have secret meetings on Saturday after Temple to decide who gets what.

    Eat some bacon and calm down, will you...
    , @Corpse Tooth
    @SafeNow

    I think it was Steve who pondered ... what if Oppenheimer was made by the Coens. I didn't see Christopher Nolan's version because I'm already plagued by boredom boners. I'd only attempt this slog through Science if it was a Coen Bros. film. It would be shorter than Nolan's 4+ hours and certainly infused with the Coen's quirky and black humour -- as in the few moments of genuine laughs interspersed with the darkness found in No Country for Old Men rather than the udderly annoying and slapstick The Hudsucker Proxy. I think the Coens might have been receptive to my subplot wherein ambitious satanists Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley sneak onto the Trinity site with their little box containing the clay figure that they hope to spark into a fully formed golem using the nuclear ignition. Nolan is humourless and lacks vigour.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @SafeNow

    Jews, as an ethnicity, have some recognizable mannerisms & stereotypes, but I don't think there is such thing as "Jewish filmmaking".

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @J.Ross

    , @Wokechoke
    @SafeNow

    He does good cinema

    , @Erik L
    @SafeNow

    I never realized how great a writer Roger Ebert was until he died. Then I was subjected to his replacements on ebert.com.

    I have no sense whether I agree with their ratings. I just cannot slog through most of their writing.

    I miss Roger and also hate that when you search for him you get so many images of his post cancer appearance. I don't want to remember him that way. To me he will always be that plump sweater lesbian who wrote so well, and spoke so well.

    Also fuck Gene Siskel for the fat jokes. Roger was trying to be a sport; it was never fair for him to require Roger to ask him to stop.

  18. awards handicappers

    Wait, what? What is this term?

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Poirot

    It was a slip up. He meant to write awards differentlyabler.
    Old vices die hard.

  19. “It’s amazing the Fat Man bomb went off at all without Hidden Figures to check von Neumann’s math.”

    It’s amazing Uncle Samantha didn’t bother filming the first ever military use of atomic bombs.

    It’s amazing that damage caused by atomic bombs looks 100% identical to damage caused by Uncle Samantha’s sustained firebombing campaigns of Japanese cities.

    It’s amazing I can find only CGI reenactments of atomic bomb detonations, but no film or video.

    It’s amazing that no one has used an atomic bomb since WWII.

    It’s amazing Boomers think atomic bombs are real.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • LOL: Frau Katze, Renard
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen


    It’s amazing I can find only CGI reenactments of atomic bomb detonations, but no film or video.
     
    It's amazing that so many people now can't tell the difference between actual film and CGI.

    It's amazing that so many people now are technically and historically illiterate.

    It's amazing that so many people actually believe that the Earth is flat.

    It's amazing that these people are even able to avoid drowing when it rains.

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    , @epebble
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    It’s amazing that damage caused by atomic bombs looks 100% identical to damage caused by Uncle Samantha’s sustained firebombing campaigns of Japanese cities.


    This:


    Among the long-term effects suffered by atomic bomb survivors, the most deadly was leukemia. An increase in leukemia appeared about two years after the attacks and peaked around four to six years later. Children represent the population that was affected most severely. Attributable risk—the percent difference in the incidence rate of a condition between an exposed population and a comparable unexposed one — reveals how great of an effect radiation had on leukemia incidence. The Radiation Effects Research Foundation estimates the attributable risk of leukemia to be 46% for bomb victims.

    For all other cancers, incidence increase did not appear until around ten years after the attacks. The increase was first noted in 1956 and soon after tumor registries were started in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki to collect data on the excess cancer risks caused by the radiation exposure. The most thorough study regarding the incidence of solid cancer (meaning cancer that is not leukemia) was conducted by a team led by Dale L. Preston of Hirosoft International Corporation and published in 2003. The study estimated the attributable rate of radiation exposure to solid cancer to be significantly lower than that for leukemia—10.7%. According to the RERF, the data corroborates the general rule that even if someone is exposed to a barely survivable whole-body radiation dose, the solid cancer risk will not be more than five times greater than the risk of an unexposed individual.

    Graph of excess relative risk to exposure dose
    Nearly seventy years after the bombings occurred, most of the generation that was alive during the attack has passed away. Now much more attention has turned to the children born to the survivors. Regarding individuals who had been exposed to radiation before birth (in utero), studies, such as one led by E. Nakashima in 1994, have shown that exposure led to increases in small head size and mental disability, as well as impairment in physical growth. Persons exposed in utero were also found to have a lower increase in cancer rate than survivors who were children at the time of the attack.

    https://k1project.columbia.edu/news/hiroshima-and-nagasaki
     
    didn't happen to victims of firebombing.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    , @p38ace
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Quiet, blabbermouth, you are giving away the secret!

    , @AlmaMater
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    I have read about that suspicion as well. It's not impossible. Our government routinely lies about everything. This could be another ruse designed (1) to keep citizens scared and dependent upon our government making more weapons, (2) to be used an excuse to launder more money to make said weapons, and (3) to keep the nation's populations bellicose and all that benefits that entails.

    Just as the boldfaced lie that is the space program is used to launder billions and the traitorous 911 event is used to steal more of our freedoms, I don't rule it out as a possibility.

  20. Does this mean the very homogeneously Korean film Parasite, which in 2020 became the first non-English-language Best Picture, would no longer qualify in the Current Year?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @WowJustWow

    Parasite was very funny.

  21. @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    (1) You're voluntarily bringing up Fuchs?
    (2) You white. You so white. You so white fo' real.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    Fuchs wasn’t a Jew. He was born a Lutheran German. His father became a pacifist after WW1.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    Which presbyter did the Rosenbergs attend?

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    , @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    @Frau Katze


    Fuchs wasn’t a Jew. He was born a Lutheran German. His father became a pacifist after WW1.
     
    No, but Harry Gold, Morris Cohen, David Greenglass, and Julius and Ethel Rosenberg sure were.
  22. https://www.nytimes.com/by/brooks-barnes

    https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tLP1TeIT0_OrjA1YPQSyEotSs2tVCjXUyhILUktKgYAkOQJ4A&q=jeremy+w.+peters&oq=Jeremy+W.+&aqs=chrome.1.0i355i512j46i512j0i512j69i57j0i512j46i175i199i512j0i512l4.6041j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    Brookes Barnes and Jeremy Page are both White male palefaces.

    (Sorry, I can’t get the photos on these links to copy/paste here…)

    So why are they bitching about the evil Whiteness in Oppenheimber?

    Of course the Evil Ones always recruit paid stooges to front for them,

    The answer of course, is money.Paid liars with golden chains. Until they get replaced.

    So far since about September, films have tanked at the box office. A few decent returns but not many.

    Marvel’s chick flick Spidergals, or whatever, set new Box Office lows for that tired franchise. No one went.

    Barbie was a one hit wonder last summer for the H’wood feminist mafia. But how many men bought tickets w/o taking an estrogen filled date/spouse?

    I only saw a few clips but it seemed silly and forced. Yes it made money (was expensive to make) but I doubt that we’ll see a Barbie II. Campy cartoons made w/ people are seldom long lasting.

    Otherwise Woke Hollywood is fast becoming “box office poison”, in that memorable phrase.

    So these two White guys repping for the Quota Queens of Film are just punching their clock.

    If the Manhattan Project was staffed by mainly females and non Whites, we’ d all be speaking Japanese by now.

    These two White NYT pimps would be complaining about the lack of Japanese characters in the epic tale of American defeat. The “people of color” would be Asians.

    • Agree: Alden, Frau Katze
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Muggles

    "If the Manhattan Project was staffed by mainly females and non Whites, we’ d all be speaking Japanese by now."

    Be fair. The US, Russia and the British Empire (as was) were, in Churchill's words "twice or even thrice the strength of our antagonists. Hitler's fate was sealed. Mussolini's fate was sealed. As for the Japanese, they would be ground to powder". And that was when the bomb was still only a theory.

    But an awful lot of Americans, and perhaps Australians and Brits, would have died fighting their way across the Japanese home islands.

    Replies: @BB753, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    , @SFG
    @Muggles

    Barbie was successful because lots and lots and lots of girls played with Barbies growing up. Mattel is looking into a Rock 'em-Sock 'em Robots movie, for crying out loud. People are nostalgic, they like to remember their childhood, and Hollywood is really good at movies aimed at children or people remembering being children. How many Transformers movies did they make? (Anyone here who says 'none worth mentioning after 1986', I hear you and salute the iron birds of fortune, but from a money point of view they did quite well.)

    I've had a policy of not seeing Hollywood movies unless they have a white male protagonist. Let Hollywood's diversity bite them in the wallet. So I did see Oppenheimer, and Wonka, though sadly I missed Top Gun: Maverick. I'm told European series still employ white people; MHz has a few of those. Liberals have been doing 'conscious consumption' for a while; no reason you can't steal a few of the enemy's tools. I mean, Bud Light blinked.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    , @Dennis Dale
    @Muggles


    If the Manhattan Project was staffed by mainly females and non Whites, we’ d all be speaking Japanese by now.
     
    We didn't need to nuke an already defeated Japan. Also, "we'd all be speaking Japanese by now" is even sillier than "we'd all be speaking German now" (which, granted, doesn't sound so bad at this point), because "world domination" was never the goal of the Axis powers--that is, no more so than it was ours. In reality, British fear of losing their world domination to German industry was a necessary precursor to WWI, and hence to WWII.

    Abandon these tired old lies.

  23. @Jack D

    But because of its historical context, the cast is nearly all white. The biographical film, directed by Christopher Nolan, is set largely during World War II, when the military and most of American society was still segregated. Its plot — about the classified program to develop the atomic bomb — is centered on powerful and privileged men who work at the nation’s most elite academic institutions.
     
    Yes, the Manhattan Project was just like a pre-WWII WASP country club. No Jews allowed.

    Oops, no, scratch that. Never mind.

    Groves had to make a devil's bargain. He could either let a bunch of Jews and Communists and Jewish Communists and Communist Jews and Communist Jew Commies with funny foreign accents work on the bomb or he could not have a bomb (at least not before the war was over).

    It would be like trying to do some sort of large project today that requires hiring a lot of college professors but you could only hire the ones who were registered Republicans. You could forget about it because there wouldn't be enough of them to do the project.

    Still I am amazed that Nolan did not sneak in at least a few blacks - only a director of Nolan's stature could have gotten away with this. Otherwise there are blacks in all sorts of historical movies where they don't belong nowadays. It's almost mandatory.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @James J. O'Meara, @tyrone, @Nachum, @MEH 0910

    Jewish Communists and Communist Jews

    And so the Soviet Union popped smoke in 1949

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @tyrone

    I kid. The real spy at Los Alamos was Fuchs who was a Lutheran Aryan. It's always the one you suspect the least. Aldrich Ames. Robert Hanssen. Whitaker Chambers. Kim Philby. Real spies don't attend Communist Party meetings that are infiltrated by the FBI.

    Replies: @From Beer to Paternity, @J.Ross, @Colin Wright, @tyrone

  24. The answer is easy. Oppenheimer and the other men who created the atom bomb were communist Jews. Recently arrived communist Jews who spoke Yiddish at home and among themselves immigrants and some American born Yiddish speaking communist Jews.

    And had a superb communist Jewish courier service to send their research to communist Jewish spies in NYC Who sent the information on to Stalin.

    If they were all old American Christian goys no movie would ever been made.

    • Agree: Pastit, Renard
    • Replies: @Sir Didymus
    @Alden

    In other words, if it weren't for the Jews we would be living in a world free from the risk of nuclear annihilation.

    , @Houston 1992
    @Alden

    To my knowledge no major movie or documentary has been made on William Shockley or Claude Shannon. Or Jack Kilby. Or the inventor of the op amp H S Black

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Stephen_Black

  25. @SafeNow
    As I posted previously, Christopher Nolan, although born a Brit, does Jewish filmmaking: Materialistic, intellectual, with dissension and contentiousness featuring strongly and putting a spring into the heels of the various actors. Thus, the Hollywood Jewish mafia embraced the style and ethos of his work. As did the film critics who worked for the mainstream media, because they knew what was good for them. So that’s how he got away with it.

    Btw, as I detailed before, “Past Lives” is a better film. The Ebert.com panel rated it as the number-two movie of 2023, so it is not just a SafeNow recommendation. Ebert.com placed “Oppenheimer” close behind at number three. (But I personally believe past lives is far better .)

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Muggles, @Corpse Tooth, @Bardon Kaldian, @Wokechoke, @Erik L

    “Dunkirk” was an extremely boring film, despite it depicting events in which two family members were closely involved, and despite my large-ish amount of background reading on the subject.

    Biden in April 2020 –

    “The Russian economy is on track to be cut in half. It was ranked the 11th biggest economy in the world before this invasion — and soon, it will not even rank among the top 20.”

    GDP totals, 2022 by PPP in dollar terms, World Bank figures

    1 China 30,337,137
    2 United States 25,439,700
    3 India 11,904,797
    4 Japan 5,703,678
    5 Russian Federation 5,326,855
    6 Germany 5,323,007
    7 Indonesia 4,038,239
    8 Brazil 3,838,532
    9 France 3,764,759
    10 United Kingdom 3,678,728

    https://datacatalogfiles.worldbank.org/ddh-published/0038129/DR0046438/GDP_PPP.pdf?versionId=2023-12-21T17:03:06.7589486Z

    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Placing things in perspective--

    1. German nuclear program had a budget of $2 million

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_program_during_World_War_II

    2. Japanese nuclear program had a budget of just over $4 million. (from jp version of wiki article)

    3. Manhanttan project had a budget of $2 billion (1945, ~US$26 billion in 2022)

    Japan went to war in China largely to prevent Soviet communist infiltration-- communist spies later handed nuclear secrets to Communist China


    The Chinese nuclear program was aided by its considerable access to Western atomic secrets. For example, China may have benefited from the defection of American physicist Joan Hinton in 1948 (Reed and Stillman 87). Hinton had worked on the “Fat Man” plutonium implosion bomb at Los Alamos and witnessed the Trinity Test.
     

    Despite Mao’s proclamation of scientific independence, however, Qian Sanqiang traveled to East Germany in July 1959 to meet with former Manhattan Project physicist—and Soviet spy—Klaus Fuchs.

    Fuchs and Qian spent the summer of 1959 going over detailed designs of the “Fat Man” plutonium implosion bomb.
     

    https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/history/chinese-nuclear-program/

    Replies: @anonymous, @Colin Wright

    , @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon

    If you go by nominal GDP, Russia is still #11, tied with Mexico. Not very impressive compared to the GDP of NATO .

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Citizen of a Silly Country

  26. @Thomm
    @Pixo

    If all of the world’s people were Ashkenazi Jews, human society would be about 350 years more advanced today than it is now. Their excellence in science, entertainment, finance, law, economics, literature, and more would be able to manifest on a much larger scale. Plus, if everyone is Jewish, there are no non-Jews for them to manipulate, so they will work in unison towards the big picture.

    The technological level would be comparable to what we see in Star Trek : The Next Generation. We would have warp drive, replicators, holodecks, and an interstellar civilization by now. We would already have started spreading out across the galaxy.

    This, of course, requires the genetic component of Ashkenazi Jews. Converting WN wiggers (avg. IQ: 70) to Judaism will not suddenly add 40+ points to their respective IQs.

    Even non-Jews with Jewish names, such as Morris Seligman Dees and Whoopi Goldberg (who still retains her original legal name Caryn Johnson) became much more successful than they would have been without the Jewish name. Ms. Johnson gave it to herself, so is even smarter than Mr. Dees. Ms. Johnson is an EGOT, only the fourth woman and first black person to complete the quartet of major awards. It is safe to say her talent is not on par with previous EGOT winners like Rita Moreno.

    Hey, it is true. The WN wiggers here routinely say that if all humans where black Africans, we would still be at around 1500 BC. By that same token, if all humans were Ashkenazi Jews, we would be 350 years ahead of where we are today.

    Thanks,
    - Mordecai Velvel Rabinowitz

    Replies: @awry, @QCIC, @pyrrhus, @Redneck Farmer, @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Slim, @AndrewR

    Bullshit. The world would be a big Ukrainian shtetl, with Kosher butchers, fiddlers on the roof, lewd housewives, milk boys etc.
    The smartest jids would hone their skills with Talmudic hair-splitting debates.

    • Agree: Shhhdfjihddjgd
    • LOL: BB753
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @awry

    This is correct depending on whether you go with Thomm's loose criteria or whether you specify "post-Haskalah" Ashkenazic Jews. But that theological hair-splitting did set it up.

    , @SFG
    @awry

    The thing I would argue is once the whole society is like that you would tend to see selection for more ‘goyish’ personality types, if only because there is an evolutionary niche that opens up. The Israelis are considerably more macho than diaspora Jews, and most people are adaptable enough to adjust to situations.

    Probably after a few hundred years things would be similar to the way they actually turned out as the population adapted to the environment. I guess you might have a slightly higher rate of technical progress due to the higher baseline IQ, but which way that would wind up is anyone’s guess. You might just get nuclear war as everyone figures out the Bomb earlier. It would ultimately depend on when you replaced the world with Ashkenazi Jews, as the higher IQ didn’t evolve until the Middle Ages-ancient Israel wasn’t a particularly unique Levantine kingdom.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  27. @SafeNow
    As I posted previously, Christopher Nolan, although born a Brit, does Jewish filmmaking: Materialistic, intellectual, with dissension and contentiousness featuring strongly and putting a spring into the heels of the various actors. Thus, the Hollywood Jewish mafia embraced the style and ethos of his work. As did the film critics who worked for the mainstream media, because they knew what was good for them. So that’s how he got away with it.

    Btw, as I detailed before, “Past Lives” is a better film. The Ebert.com panel rated it as the number-two movie of 2023, so it is not just a SafeNow recommendation. Ebert.com placed “Oppenheimer” close behind at number three. (But I personally believe past lives is far better .)

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Muggles, @Corpse Tooth, @Bardon Kaldian, @Wokechoke, @Erik L

    As I posted previously, Christopher Nolan, although born a Brit, does Jewish filmmaking: Materialistic, intellectual, with dissension and contentiousness featuring strongly and putting a spring into the heels of the various actors. Thus, the Hollywood Jewish mafia embraced the style and ethos of his work. As did the film critics who worked for the mainstream media, because they knew what was good for them. So that’s how he got away with it.

    So a successful British born filmmaker, now American, is successful only because “Hollywood Jews like his work.”

    The fact that the ticket buying public likes his work, seems to be irrelevant.

    When everything is about “the Jews”, then nothing is anything else.

    True the Jewish influence via personalities in Hollywood has been quite noticeable, but so what? It’s not like they have secret meetings on Saturday after Temple to decide who gets what.

    Eat some bacon and calm down, will you…

    • Agree: epebble
    • Thanks: Erik L
  28. @Muggles
    https://www.nytimes.com/by/brooks-barnes

    https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tLP1TeIT0_OrjA1YPQSyEotSs2tVCjXUyhILUktKgYAkOQJ4A&q=jeremy+w.+peters&oq=Jeremy+W.+&aqs=chrome.1.0i355i512j46i512j0i512j69i57j0i512j46i175i199i512j0i512l4.6041j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    Brookes Barnes and Jeremy Page are both White male palefaces.

    (Sorry, I can't get the photos on these links to copy/paste here...)

    So why are they bitching about the evil Whiteness in Oppenheimber?

    Of course the Evil Ones always recruit paid stooges to front for them,

    The answer of course, is money.Paid liars with golden chains. Until they get replaced.

    So far since about September, films have tanked at the box office. A few decent returns but not many.

    Marvel's chick flick Spidergals, or whatever, set new Box Office lows for that tired franchise. No one went.

    Barbie was a one hit wonder last summer for the H'wood feminist mafia. But how many men bought tickets w/o taking an estrogen filled date/spouse?

    I only saw a few clips but it seemed silly and forced. Yes it made money (was expensive to make) but I doubt that we'll see a Barbie II. Campy cartoons made w/ people are seldom long lasting.

    Otherwise Woke Hollywood is fast becoming "box office poison", in that memorable phrase.

    So these two White guys repping for the Quota Queens of Film are just punching their clock.

    If the Manhattan Project was staffed by mainly females and non Whites, we' d all be speaking Japanese by now.

    These two White NYT pimps would be complaining about the lack of Japanese characters in the epic tale of American defeat. The "people of color" would be Asians.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @SFG, @Dennis Dale

    “If the Manhattan Project was staffed by mainly females and non Whites, we’ d all be speaking Japanese by now.”

    Be fair. The US, Russia and the British Empire (as was) were, in Churchill’s words “twice or even thrice the strength of our antagonists. Hitler’s fate was sealed. Mussolini’s fate was sealed. As for the Japanese, they would be ground to powder“. And that was when the bomb was still only a theory.

    But an awful lot of Americans, and perhaps Australians and Brits, would have died fighting their way across the Japanese home islands.

    • Agree: epebble
    • Replies: @BB753
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Churchill was bluffing. The British empire was already a shadow of what it used to be, and no match on its own against Germany or Japan. Even the US was not ready, in the early stages in the war, to fight Germany. That is why the USSR did most of the heavy lifting in the European front.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Because the British Empire partook in so many victories in the Pacific theatre.

    Oh wait, it suffered its greatest defeat in history at Singapore to a Japanese force half its size, and had to be rescued by the Chinese at Burma


    On 16 April, in Burma, 7,000 British soldiers were encircled by the Japanese 33rd Division during the Battle of Yenangyaung and rescued by the Chinese 38th Division.[32]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma_campaign

    There must at this stage be no thought of saving the troops or sparing the population. The battle must be fought to the bitter end at all costs. The 18th Division has a chance to make its name in history. Commanders and senior officers should die with their troops. The honour of the British Empire and of the British Army is at stake. I rely on you to show no mercy to weakness in any form.

    -- Winston Churchill
     

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Surrender_Singapore.jpg
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Singapore

    Indian soldiers, as they were defeating the Japanese, being ordered by their British commanders to lay down their arms and surrender.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq2_SWXfvog

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @YetAnotherAnon, @Lurker, @prosa123

  29. @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    Fuchs wasn’t a Jew. He was born a Lutheran German. His father became a pacifist after WW1.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    Which presbyter did the Rosenbergs attend?

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    I was discussing Klaus Fuchs. I did not say the Rosenbergs weren’t Jews.

  30. @Jack D
    @Frau Katze

    Julius (aka J. Robert) himself grew up in privilege. The movie raises this as a point of friction between himself and Lewis Strauss, who was himself a self-made man. Strauss was intimidated and intellectually threatened by the well educated and snooty, privileged Oppenheimer and this led in part to Strauss trying to cut Oppenheimer down a notch.

    von Neumann also had a very privileged background. However, some of the scientists (e.g. Feynman) grew up in very modest circumstances.

    But yes, in general the upward mobility of the Jews was remarkable. I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did. I think it's hilarious/sad when they interview some illegal alien who has been here for 20 years and the interview is in Spanish because in 20 years said alien hasn't learned two words of Ingles.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad, @Art Deco, @kaganovitch

    But not all the scientists on the Manhattan Project were Jews, although they were over represented.

    Some who weren’t: Enrico Fermi, Hans Bethe (apparently his mother had a Jewish background but was not raised in the faith), Glen T Seaborg (Swedish descent), Klaus Fuchs (spy, German Protestant), Luis Walter Alvarez (Catholic of Spanish descent), Neils Bohr (Danish).

    There’s plenty more.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Frau Katze

    Definitely they were not all Jewish but there were a lot of them, especially considering that Jews were 2 or 3% of the US population. Fermi was not Jewish but his wife was and this was why they left Italy.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Art Deco

    , @SFG
    @Frau Katze

    Bohr was Jewish on his mom's side. Fermi's wife was Jewish (and a communist), which was why he left Italy.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Frau Katze

    There were far less Jews than most people usually think, especially among post WW2 chemistry Nobelists. Of course, among the most important scientists Jews were over 50%, but only specialists (or aficionados) know how many truly essential problems have been solved by whom. The contributions of many famous & significant people have been debated over years.

    Actually, it is impossible to ascertain this, because those contributions are not commensurable.

    My opinion is that A-bomb (and, later, H-bomb) is one of those breakthroughs that would have happened, sooner or later & that the US had uncanny advantages (big country, safe, vast resources). Just, due to the nature of physics (and other sciences) no similar breakthrough has occurred since. Those who read Clarke's "Childhood's End" will know what I am talking about.

    Human capability to wage a war did not have any truly new revolution after the A/H-bomb.

    I'm waiting.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @Ben Kurtz
    @Frau Katze

    Niels Bohr wasn't on the Manhattan Project.

    He spent WWII in occupied Copenhagen after getting all the foreign scientists out of his institute. (Btw, the Danes don't get enough credit for being the cleverest Gentile nationality in Europe - they managed make their country judenrein by shipping all the Jews out of their territory during WWII and they still get thanked for their actions.)

    There was a popular Broadway stage play some years ago about Heisenberg visiting Bohr during the war and trying to convince him to join the Nazi A-bomb project, which Bohr declined to do. (The Munich Project? What should we call it?)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @That Would Be Telling, @Frau Katze, @Gordo, @mc23, @nebulafox

  31. @Thomm
    @Pixo

    If all of the world’s people were Ashkenazi Jews, human society would be about 350 years more advanced today than it is now. Their excellence in science, entertainment, finance, law, economics, literature, and more would be able to manifest on a much larger scale. Plus, if everyone is Jewish, there are no non-Jews for them to manipulate, so they will work in unison towards the big picture.

    The technological level would be comparable to what we see in Star Trek : The Next Generation. We would have warp drive, replicators, holodecks, and an interstellar civilization by now. We would already have started spreading out across the galaxy.

    This, of course, requires the genetic component of Ashkenazi Jews. Converting WN wiggers (avg. IQ: 70) to Judaism will not suddenly add 40+ points to their respective IQs.

    Even non-Jews with Jewish names, such as Morris Seligman Dees and Whoopi Goldberg (who still retains her original legal name Caryn Johnson) became much more successful than they would have been without the Jewish name. Ms. Johnson gave it to herself, so is even smarter than Mr. Dees. Ms. Johnson is an EGOT, only the fourth woman and first black person to complete the quartet of major awards. It is safe to say her talent is not on par with previous EGOT winners like Rita Moreno.

    Hey, it is true. The WN wiggers here routinely say that if all humans where black Africans, we would still be at around 1500 BC. By that same token, if all humans were Ashkenazi Jews, we would be 350 years ahead of where we are today.

    Thanks,
    - Mordecai Velvel Rabinowitz

    Replies: @awry, @QCIC, @pyrrhus, @Redneck Farmer, @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Slim, @AndrewR

    Morty,

    This doesn’t ring true. It seems modern Jewish achievements have largely been empowered by interaction with the host society.

    +++

    Did you mean 15,000 BC?

    • Replies: @Sir Didymus
    @QCIC

    Modern European societies created a framework where Jews could become successful without being swindlers the way their ancestors were.

  32. @awry
    @Thomm

    Bullshit. The world would be a big Ukrainian shtetl, with Kosher butchers, fiddlers on the roof, lewd housewives, milk boys etc.
    The smartest jids would hone their skills with Talmudic hair-splitting debates.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @SFG

    This is correct depending on whether you go with Thomm’s loose criteria or whether you specify “post-Haskalah” Ashkenazic Jews. But that theological hair-splitting did set it up.

  33. @James J. O'Meara
    @Jack D


    Groves had to make a devil’s bargain. He could either let a bunch of Jews and Communists and Jewish Communists and Communist Jews and Communist Jew Commies with funny foreign accents work on the bomb or he could not have a bomb (at least not before the war was over).
     
    Or, he could have asked himself why these people in particular were the only ones demanding a bomb. After he answered that question, he could then perhaps re-evaluate whether he was on the wrong side (as Patton later concluded).

    Replies: @Jack D, @SFG, @Wokechoke, @IHTG

    Groves did not make the decision on whether or not to build a bomb. That would have been FDR. His job was to carry out the mission assigned to him by his superiors, which was to oversee the building of a bomb and all the facilities necessary to build a bomb and not decide whether it was a good idea to build a bomb. Groves had overseen the building of the Pentagon in record time so they thought that he was the man for the job. He was well aware of the security risks posed by his herd of cats but he had no choice but to use them if he was to finish the job because the Ven diagram of red blooded non Leftist white Christian American patriotic men and brilliant nuclear scientists did not overlap very much. If he had refused then the Army would have gotten someone else.

    Patton had some pretty strange views. If we had not built the bomb then someone else would have, with or without Soviet spies.

  34. @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    Fuchs wasn’t a Jew. He was born a Lutheran German. His father became a pacifist after WW1.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    Fuchs wasn’t a Jew. He was born a Lutheran German. His father became a pacifist after WW1.

    No, but Harry Gold, Morris Cohen, David Greenglass, and Julius and Ethel Rosenberg sure were.

  35. @YetAnotherAnon
    @SafeNow

    "Dunkirk" was an extremely boring film, despite it depicting events in which two family members were closely involved, and despite my large-ish amount of background reading on the subject.



    Biden in April 2020 -

    "The Russian economy is on track to be cut in half. It was ranked the 11th biggest economy in the world before this invasion — and soon, it will not even rank among the top 20."

    https://twitter.com/potus/status/1507842574865866763

    GDP totals, 2022 by PPP in dollar terms, World Bank figures

    1 China 30,337,137
    2 United States 25,439,700
    3 India 11,904,797
    4 Japan 5,703,678
    5 Russian Federation 5,326,855
    6 Germany 5,323,007
    7 Indonesia 4,038,239
    8 Brazil 3,838,532
    9 France 3,764,759
    10 United Kingdom 3,678,728


    https://datacatalogfiles.worldbank.org/ddh-published/0038129/DR0046438/GDP_PPP.pdf?versionId=2023-12-21T17:03:06.7589486Z

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Jack D

    Placing things in perspective–

    1. German nuclear program had a budget of $2 million

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_program_during_World_War_II

    2. Japanese nuclear program had a budget of just over $4 million. (from jp version of wiki article)

    3. Manhanttan project had a budget of $2 billion (1945, ~US$26 billion in 2022)

    Japan went to war in China largely to prevent Soviet communist infiltration– communist spies later handed nuclear secrets to Communist China

    The Chinese nuclear program was aided by its considerable access to Western atomic secrets. For example, China may have benefited from the defection of American physicist Joan Hinton in 1948 (Reed and Stillman 87). Hinton had worked on the “Fat Man” plutonium implosion bomb at Los Alamos and witnessed the Trinity Test.

    Despite Mao’s proclamation of scientific independence, however, Qian Sanqiang traveled to East Germany in July 1959 to meet with former Manhattan Project physicist—and Soviet spy—Klaus Fuchs.

    Fuchs and Qian spent the summer of 1959 going over detailed designs of the “Fat Man” plutonium implosion bomb.

    https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/history/chinese-nuclear-program/

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Joan Hinton emigrated to China in 1948 and started working on a dairy farm in Inner Mongolia. She was briefly brought to Beijing in 1952 for the peace conference during the middle of the Korean War. Later on during the 1950s she moved to a dairy farm near Xian. In total she spent 60 years working on dairy farms in China. She was not at all involved in the Chinese nuclear program. As a young scientific assistant at 23 at Los Alamos in 1944, she was probably way too junior to know much.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    , @Colin Wright
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    'Placing things in perspective–

    1. German nuclear program had a budget of $2 million'
     
    My guess is that in an alternate universe -- like, say, one in which the Soviet Union collapses in 1941, Britain makes peace, and the US never actually enters the war -- there's a reasonable chance Germany eventually develops the bomb. Given the necessary leisure, and spare resources, she could have done it.

    Like, by 1947. Assuming continued tension between the US and Nazi Germany, we probably pursue it with less intensity, completing one by 1946 or so. In an America at peace, it would have been hard to justify expenditures on quite the scale the Manhattan Project as executed required.

    It's unlikely that either side drops it though -- except maybe us on Japan. As far as the US and Germany go, London is a colossal hostage. Once the Germans have Sarin, they've got a card to play if the US nukes Berlin. They don't even need to have the bomb yet.
  36. @SafeNow
    As I posted previously, Christopher Nolan, although born a Brit, does Jewish filmmaking: Materialistic, intellectual, with dissension and contentiousness featuring strongly and putting a spring into the heels of the various actors. Thus, the Hollywood Jewish mafia embraced the style and ethos of his work. As did the film critics who worked for the mainstream media, because they knew what was good for them. So that’s how he got away with it.

    Btw, as I detailed before, “Past Lives” is a better film. The Ebert.com panel rated it as the number-two movie of 2023, so it is not just a SafeNow recommendation. Ebert.com placed “Oppenheimer” close behind at number three. (But I personally believe past lives is far better .)

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Muggles, @Corpse Tooth, @Bardon Kaldian, @Wokechoke, @Erik L

    I think it was Steve who pondered … what if Oppenheimer was made by the Coens. I didn’t see Christopher Nolan’s version because I’m already plagued by boredom boners. I’d only attempt this slog through Science if it was a Coen Bros. film. It would be shorter than Nolan’s 4+ hours and certainly infused with the Coen’s quirky and black humour — as in the few moments of genuine laughs interspersed with the darkness found in No Country for Old Men rather than the udderly annoying and slapstick The Hudsucker Proxy. I think the Coens might have been receptive to my subplot wherein ambitious satanists Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley sneak onto the Trinity site with their little box containing the clay figure that they hope to spark into a fully formed golem using the nuclear ignition. Nolan is humourless and lacks vigour.

  37. @Frau Katze
    @Jack D

    But not all the scientists on the Manhattan Project were Jews, although they were over represented.

    Some who weren’t: Enrico Fermi, Hans Bethe (apparently his mother had a Jewish background but was not raised in the faith), Glen T Seaborg (Swedish descent), Klaus Fuchs (spy, German Protestant), Luis Walter Alvarez (Catholic of Spanish descent), Neils Bohr (Danish).

    There’s plenty more.

    Replies: @Jack D, @SFG, @Bardon Kaldian, @Ben Kurtz

    Definitely they were not all Jewish but there were a lot of them, especially considering that Jews were 2 or 3% of the US population. Fermi was not Jewish but his wife was and this was why they left Italy.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Jack D

    I know that and my comment was to help the crazy situation here. Some of the Men (and a few Women) of Unz will be talking about Jewish Communist plots.

    Only yesterday someone was saying that Jews control the US media (they don’t).

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mr. Anon

    , @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    About 3.5% in 1940.

  38. @YetAnotherAnon
    @SafeNow

    "Dunkirk" was an extremely boring film, despite it depicting events in which two family members were closely involved, and despite my large-ish amount of background reading on the subject.



    Biden in April 2020 -

    "The Russian economy is on track to be cut in half. It was ranked the 11th biggest economy in the world before this invasion — and soon, it will not even rank among the top 20."

    https://twitter.com/potus/status/1507842574865866763

    GDP totals, 2022 by PPP in dollar terms, World Bank figures

    1 China 30,337,137
    2 United States 25,439,700
    3 India 11,904,797
    4 Japan 5,703,678
    5 Russian Federation 5,326,855
    6 Germany 5,323,007
    7 Indonesia 4,038,239
    8 Brazil 3,838,532
    9 France 3,764,759
    10 United Kingdom 3,678,728


    https://datacatalogfiles.worldbank.org/ddh-published/0038129/DR0046438/GDP_PPP.pdf?versionId=2023-12-21T17:03:06.7589486Z

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Jack D

    If you go by nominal GDP, Russia is still #11, tied with Mexico. Not very impressive compared to the GDP of NATO .

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack D

    But the GDP of the entire EU can't produce as many 155mm shells as North Korea, which doesn't even have a recorded GDP!

    When you're comparing military potential, you can pretty much ignore (tho not entirely) the service economy. It's manufacturing and production that's most important.

    GDP has some weird features in the UK. My employer pays me £x a year, so I tend to assume I'm adding £x + y% to their earnings, or why am I there?

    But I paid for my house maybe 10 years ago, it's quite big and would cost me maybe £2,500 a month to rent. I was paying nowhere near that much on the mortgage, but house inflation's been so huge I could never afford the place now.

    Yet just by living in my house, I'm adding £30,000 annually to British GDP.


    https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2023/02/14/10-or-gdp-is-made-up-it-simply-does-not-exist-in-the-real-world/

    Let's step into fantasy and assume a new administration stopped all new immigration - the Palestinian and Chinese doctors, the Polish and Romanian drivers, they can sray, but NO MAS!

    Rents halve within 2 years as a consequence, as some people go home, some emigrate. With a must-have like housing, it doesn't take much of either shortage or surplus to swing rental prices wildly.

    First of all, the Guardian would bemoan the evil racism of the Brits.

    But secondly, I and all the millions 0f houseowners, would only pay half as much imaginary "imputed rent". GDP would drop.

    And the Guardian would say it's because of the lack of new immigrants! Which it is, but only because they drive up rents!

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack D

    And, yet, Russia has not only withstood everything that NATO has thrown at it, Russia is winning and winning big.

    I don't know if Ukraine will go down as America's Syracuse, but it has fundamentally changed the world political order.

    The US was defeated, both economically by Russia actually thriving under the sanctions and militarily by the tiny Russian economy out-producing the entire West.

    America now must live in a world where many nations can punch back hard enough to deter the US from doing anything - and they know it. Should be fun.

    Replies: @Jack D

  39. • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123


    1. There are 30,000 unique parts in an ICE car, 2000 of which are movable.

    By comparison, there are 10,000 unique parts in an EV, 20 of which are movable.
     
    There's all sorts of random anti-EV nonsense, but Stankovic's claim here is still facile.

    Having fewer and far fewer moving parts is indeed a huge advantage. But that advantage should manifest itself in cost. And yet EVs cost more--considerably more--not less.

    At the end of the day it's a question of the full cycle cost--cost of building, cost of operation, including both fueling (energy) and maintenance--which could include a new battery if required--and even potentially the cost of disassembly. And what sort of comfort. convenience and performance you get for that cost--including better performance of EVs, but much slower refueling.

    I expect EVs will win in the end for more or less his overall set of reasons. But it seems to me that for that to happen, there will need to be an improvement in battery technology. Something less expensive and safer than lithium ion, and ideally with faster charging.

    Replies: @Jack D, @That Would Be Telling, @scrivener3, @Bill Jones, @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Lurker
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Movable parts?

    The fact he used that term instead of 'moving parts' makes me think the guy is an idiot.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mike Tre

  40. @WowJustWow
    Does this mean the very homogeneously Korean film Parasite, which in 2020 became the first non-English-language Best Picture, would no longer qualify in the Current Year?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Parasite was very funny.

  41. @Jack D
    @Frau Katze

    Definitely they were not all Jewish but there were a lot of them, especially considering that Jews were 2 or 3% of the US population. Fermi was not Jewish but his wife was and this was why they left Italy.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Art Deco

    I know that and my comment was to help the crazy situation here. Some of the Men (and a few Women) of Unz will be talking about Jewish Communist plots.

    Only yesterday someone was saying that Jews control the US media (they don’t).

    • Troll: JimDandy, Renard
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    Oh, a Lutheran. So that's why he served the Soviet Union.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Patrick McNally

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Frau Katze


    Only yesterday someone was saying that Jews control the US media (they don’t).
     
    Are they without influence in the US media? Is that influence insignificant?
  42. @Frau Katze
    @Jack D

    But not all the scientists on the Manhattan Project were Jews, although they were over represented.

    Some who weren’t: Enrico Fermi, Hans Bethe (apparently his mother had a Jewish background but was not raised in the faith), Glen T Seaborg (Swedish descent), Klaus Fuchs (spy, German Protestant), Luis Walter Alvarez (Catholic of Spanish descent), Neils Bohr (Danish).

    There’s plenty more.

    Replies: @Jack D, @SFG, @Bardon Kaldian, @Ben Kurtz

    Bohr was Jewish on his mom’s side. Fermi’s wife was Jewish (and a communist), which was why he left Italy.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @SFG

    Hans Bethe was a Mischlinge, too. In his case, Gentile German father, Jewish mother. This was not uncommon in the Central European haute bourgeoisie, with the result being that many people didn’t even know they were classified as Jews until the Nazis informed them.

    Re, Fermi: it is worth remembering that Italian Fascism was not anti-Semitic until 1938, so Fermi did not have a reason to leave until then. That said, Fermi was the one who experimentally verified the successful discovery of fission in Berlin (Hahn, Strassmann, and Meitner) less than a year before the war started, and he was the one who brought the news across the Atlantic. He could not have been under any illusions about the risk. Nor could Einstein, who had worked down the hall from Hahn for nearly two decades and understood the connections people like von Weizsäcker had in the government.

    (Fermi was a truly amazing scientist. He was something we don’t see at all today: a fully fluent theorist and experimentalist.)

    It had been a crazy year in Italian physics: Majorana disappeared off the face of the earth not that much earlier.

    Replies: @prosa123

  43. 1. In the past year, the US has lost 284K full-time jobs, these have been replaced with 921K part-time jobs

    2. In February alone, a record 1.2 million foreign-born jobs were added.

    3. In the past three months, a record (ex-covid crash) 2.4 million native-born jobs have been lost, including 494K jobs lost in February.

    4. Most shocking, since May 2018, there have been ZERO jobs created for native-born Americans. All jobs in the past 6 years have gone to immigrants, legal and illegal.

  44. Anonymous[218] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s a movie about Jews gleefully making nukes to kill lots of Germans but then feigning a bit of conscience when lots of Japanese were killed instead.

    Jews making the Bomb and then fretting about it.
    Having it both ways.

    • Agree: BB753
  45. OT — I guess Steve’s comment on the State of the Union, let alone the completely dilatory primaries, was his lack of comment. My pre-taping prediction was wrong (I forgot about the wake-up drug J. Mason of Ecuadorial fame had described earlier) but I largely agree. I’d like to hear what any retired lawyers whose last name starts with the fourth letter of the alphabet thought about it, but maybe I can search that.
    Even with Mason’s Elixir he was recognizable, though.
    HE FEELS THE POLITICAL WIND, STEVE. HE FEELS THE POLITICAL WIND AT HIS BACK. BUT IT’S NOT ABOUT HIM, IT’S ABOUT ME WINNING, IT’S NOT WHO WINS. STEVE.
    In football news, how will the University of South Carolina cope with the loss of their coach, Lincoln Riley?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @J.Ross

    I'm terribly sorry I missed the State of the Union address.

    Well, actually, no, I'm not. I'm sorry about all the ones I've watched over the years.

    Replies: @Mr Mox, @Wokechoke, @J.Ross, @Renard

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @J.Ross


    In football news, how will the University of South Carolina cope with the loss of their coach, Lincoln Riley?
     
    He must have told them he was named after Benjamin.


    Remembering another important Lincoln in American history


    Did Biden make any public statements in 2001 about Ingmar Guandique's victim? (Ironically, an intern with the Bureau of Prisons.) How is Ingmar doing today? Is he still "undocumented"? (Isn't documentation part of the job of those interns?)
  46. @Muggles
    https://www.nytimes.com/by/brooks-barnes

    https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tLP1TeIT0_OrjA1YPQSyEotSs2tVCjXUyhILUktKgYAkOQJ4A&q=jeremy+w.+peters&oq=Jeremy+W.+&aqs=chrome.1.0i355i512j46i512j0i512j69i57j0i512j46i175i199i512j0i512l4.6041j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    Brookes Barnes and Jeremy Page are both White male palefaces.

    (Sorry, I can't get the photos on these links to copy/paste here...)

    So why are they bitching about the evil Whiteness in Oppenheimber?

    Of course the Evil Ones always recruit paid stooges to front for them,

    The answer of course, is money.Paid liars with golden chains. Until they get replaced.

    So far since about September, films have tanked at the box office. A few decent returns but not many.

    Marvel's chick flick Spidergals, or whatever, set new Box Office lows for that tired franchise. No one went.

    Barbie was a one hit wonder last summer for the H'wood feminist mafia. But how many men bought tickets w/o taking an estrogen filled date/spouse?

    I only saw a few clips but it seemed silly and forced. Yes it made money (was expensive to make) but I doubt that we'll see a Barbie II. Campy cartoons made w/ people are seldom long lasting.

    Otherwise Woke Hollywood is fast becoming "box office poison", in that memorable phrase.

    So these two White guys repping for the Quota Queens of Film are just punching their clock.

    If the Manhattan Project was staffed by mainly females and non Whites, we' d all be speaking Japanese by now.

    These two White NYT pimps would be complaining about the lack of Japanese characters in the epic tale of American defeat. The "people of color" would be Asians.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @SFG, @Dennis Dale

    Barbie was successful because lots and lots and lots of girls played with Barbies growing up. Mattel is looking into a Rock ’em-Sock ’em Robots movie, for crying out loud. People are nostalgic, they like to remember their childhood, and Hollywood is really good at movies aimed at children or people remembering being children. How many Transformers movies did they make? (Anyone here who says ‘none worth mentioning after 1986’, I hear you and salute the iron birds of fortune, but from a money point of view they did quite well.)

    I’ve had a policy of not seeing Hollywood movies unless they have a white male protagonist. Let Hollywood’s diversity bite them in the wallet. So I did see Oppenheimer, and Wonka, though sadly I missed Top Gun: Maverick. I’m told European series still employ white people; MHz has a few of those. Liberals have been doing ‘conscious consumption’ for a while; no reason you can’t steal a few of the enemy’s tools. I mean, Bud Light blinked.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @SFG


    though sadly I missed Top Gun: Maverick.
     
    Top Gun: Maverick was an estrogen-soaked rehash of the oldest and lamest themes in moviemaking. It was absolutely awful. If you can make it through the first 10 minutes and watch Tom Cruise safely "eject" from an experimental aircraft that disintegrates while pushing Mach 11, you'll have an idea of how accurate the film is with respect to the physics of aviation. If you then watch him just casually steal an F/A-18 Hornet and gatecrash the test range without anybody being the wiser, you'll know how accurate it was with respect to military practices. And this is all just filler for its extremely thin human-interest story.

    TGM was like watching a woman's idea of what goes on at "airplane camp," where they imagine the fighter pilots behave no differently than the bickering girls they work with at Target.

    Replies: @Shale boi, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anonymous, @SFG

  47. @Frau Katze
    @Jack D

    I know that and my comment was to help the crazy situation here. Some of the Men (and a few Women) of Unz will be talking about Jewish Communist plots.

    Only yesterday someone was saying that Jews control the US media (they don’t).

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mr. Anon

    Oh, a Lutheran. So that’s why he served the Soviet Union.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @J.Ross

    Alger Hiss served them, as did Lawrence Duggan.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Patrick McNally
    @J.Ross

    It was Hitler's politics which drove Fuchs into joining the Communist Party of Germany (KPD).

    -----
    At Leipzig University, Fuchs joined the student branch of the Social Democratic Party, the SPD, and also the Reichsbanner, an SPD paramilitary organisation formed in opposition to the Nazis' SA, the Brownshirts... He passed out leaflets for the SPD, and spoke at student meetings...

    He talked to Communist students, and found that two things set him against the Communists. One was that these students would follow the party line strictly and uncritically, even though they might disagree with it privately on some points. The other was that while the Communist Party was calling for united action with the Social Democrats, it was at the same time denouncing the Social Democratic leaders in violent terms.
    -----
    -- Norman Moss, Klaus Fuchs: The Man Who Stole the Atom Bomb, p. 6.

    At this point in 1930-1, there was nothing in Fuchs' record to indicate that he would ever switch from the SPD to the KPD. His political shifts started in 1932 over the issue of how to deal with Hitler.

    -----
    The Fuchs family moved to North Germany... Fuchs himself entered Kiel University.

    There, he joined a student organisation which included members of both SPD and the Communist Party, and he was made Chairman. They approached Nazi students and tried to persuade them to change their ideas... The Nazi student organisation at the University was campaigning for lower fees. Fuchs decided to take them at their word, and he proposed that the two groups organise jointly a student strike for reduced fees...

    He broke with the SPD over the party's policy in the 1932 Presidential election. The Social Democrats supported the old President, General von Hindenburg, as the alternative to Hitler, who was a rival candidate... When the Communist Party ran its leader ... Fuchs offered to speak for him, and he was expelled from the SPD. Hindenburg won the election.

    Shortly after this, the Conservative Chancellor, Franz von Papen, dismissed the elected Social Democratic Government of Prussia, the largest German state, sending in police to drag the members out of their offices. Fuchs went to the Communist Party headquarters and found old friends from the SPD Reichsbanner there, ready to take to the streets to fight for Social Democracy in Prussia, all of them turning to the party that seemed to be taking the most active role in resistance to the Right. But the Prussian Social Democrats limited their resistance to an appeal to Germany's Supreme Court.

    Fuchs joined the Communist Party, accepting now the need for party discipline in the fight against Nazism. His brother Gerhardt and his sisters Elizabeth and Kristel joined in the same year. They all discussed their reasons with their father. He disagreed with their decision, but he was not entirely unsympathetic, for he was also disappointed in the Social Democratic leaders' attitude to the Nazi threat.
    -----
    -- Ibid, pp. 7-9.

    It's clear that if there had not been the issue of Hitler rising to power, then Fuchs would simply have gone on to become a Social Democrat. The indecisiveness of the SPD in the face of this was what motivated Fuchs to set aside his original rejection of the KPD.

    Replies: @Brás Cubas

  48. @IHTG

    “Oppenheimer” still easily met the diversity requirements for Best Picture.
     
    How? You ought to have quoted that part.

    Replies: @40 Lashes Less One, @Currahee, @Anon, @jb

    One of the ways is have behind the scenes people be DEI.

  49. @James J. O'Meara
    @Jack D


    Groves had to make a devil’s bargain. He could either let a bunch of Jews and Communists and Jewish Communists and Communist Jews and Communist Jew Commies with funny foreign accents work on the bomb or he could not have a bomb (at least not before the war was over).
     
    Or, he could have asked himself why these people in particular were the only ones demanding a bomb. After he answered that question, he could then perhaps re-evaluate whether he was on the wrong side (as Patton later concluded).

    Replies: @Jack D, @SFG, @Wokechoke, @IHTG

    Wait, so they were in a world war with the world’s foremost industrial power that had defeated several countries, and you’re saying he wanted a superweapon *because the Jews tricked him*?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @SFG

    Add Groves to the list of goyim who just fell off the turnip truck. WNs have no respect for white people because they think that they are all like their Uncle Cletus and Cousin Billy Bob, always gettin' tricked.

    Gen. Leslie Groves (MIT & West Point) was not that easy to trick. Nowadays white people have sadly declined and you have idiots like Joe Biden in high office. When people here say that the Jews have tricked him they might even be right.

    But in those days Jews had the utmost respect for educated white people and looked upon them as their role models. The Jews were newcomers and didn't know what was what but the great WASPs clearly had their shit together and were worthy of emulation. Oppenheimer considered Bohr to be a father figure. Even the Jewish socialists greatly admired the great WASP socialist Eugene V. Debs. The Yiddish radio station in NY had the call sign WEVD in his honor.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  50. @Jack D
    @Frau Katze

    Julius (aka J. Robert) himself grew up in privilege. The movie raises this as a point of friction between himself and Lewis Strauss, who was himself a self-made man. Strauss was intimidated and intellectually threatened by the well educated and snooty, privileged Oppenheimer and this led in part to Strauss trying to cut Oppenheimer down a notch.

    von Neumann also had a very privileged background. However, some of the scientists (e.g. Feynman) grew up in very modest circumstances.

    But yes, in general the upward mobility of the Jews was remarkable. I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did. I think it's hilarious/sad when they interview some illegal alien who has been here for 20 years and the interview is in Spanish because in 20 years said alien hasn't learned two words of Ingles.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad, @Art Deco, @kaganovitch

    But yes, in general the upward mobility of the Jews was remarkable. I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did.

    Jack, c’mon. We know you are lying, because we’ve been told endlessly that America–before the Jews bravely fought to take charge–was an oppressive hell-hole, full of racist, anti-Semites at Waspy Acres Country Club constantly scheming to hold Jews back, by enjoying a round of golf or drinks without Jewish humor and stopping Jewish boys from trying to bone their shiksa goddess daughters. (Deeply offensive to Jews, of course, known for their commitment to integration, and hatred of tribal endogamy.)

    Now you’re trying to tell us Jews could just show up, use their smarts and get ahead. Liar!

    • LOL: JimDandy
    • Replies: @Pixo
    @AnotherDad

    All too often it is the shiksa goddess seducing the poor Jewish naïf.


    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/08/28/12/32499010-8669825-image-a-1_1598613660574.jpg

    For a famous example:

    Gainsbourg, who spoke through his album l’homme à tête de chou, was flawless in Birkin’s eyes, as she once said: “He was a great man. I was just pretty”.



    The two met on the sets of the French film Slogan, directed by Pierre Grimblat, in 1968. Birkin was just out of her first marriage with composer John Barry and was still recovering from the heartbreak. While she didn’t speak a single word of French, she auditioned for the part anyway in what was likely a plot to get far away from the place which reminded her of the past. With an aching heart and infant in her arms, Birkin failed to see through Gainsbourg’s apparent roughness initially. Her brother Andrew recalled Jane’s feelings towards the musician, who said: “He’s horrible! that dreadful man Serge Bourgignon. He’s meant to be my lover but he’s so arrogant and snobbish and he absolutely despises me.”

    However, during a dinner party for the film’s cast and crew, Birkin took her chances and dragged Gainsbourg to the dance floor to make things easier between them. After initial protests, Gainsbourg not only joined her and danced the night away, but also went club hopping after that. The pair, highly intoxicated, returned to Gainsbourg’s hotel room, where he fell asleep instantly. Birkin spent the night watching him sleep and later said, “It was the most romantic of evenings”.



    In 1969, the duo worked together on a song which was initially written for Gainsbourg’s 1967 love affair Brigitte Bardot. A self-proclaimed “jealous lover”, Birkin offered to sing Bardot’s part on the track



    Once in the Paris bar Castle, Jane threw a custard tart at Serge and then chased him down Boulevard St Germain

    , @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    You have to look at the period involved. No one gives a damn about the stupid country club but from the 1920s to the 1960s Yale had a Jewish quota.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

  51. You might think that Hollywood and The Animal Farm Bulletin would be a little embarrassed that it took a British director to make a movie about one of the most important events of the 20th century, the AMERICAN-led development of the atomic bomb, while Hollywood’s big contribution to movies was a show about a girl’s doll.

    Steve Martin: “Naaaah”

  52. @Pixo
    So pleased to see my beautiful Ashkenazi brothers and sisters of color finally get a bit of representation in Hollywood!

    https://www.jta.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/camp-photo2.jpg

    Replies: @Thomm, @AnotherDad

    So pleased to see my beautiful Ashkenazi brothers and sisters of color finally get a bit of representation in Hollywood!

    Funny Pixo … but you’ve already admitted that rather than marrying back into the Tribe, you’ve gone full shiska and cast your children’s lot with the Aryan brotherhood.

    • Replies: @Pixo
    @AnotherDad

    I did make a fair effort to pair with a Jewess. But, omnia vincit amor, and I can properly continue my sacred bloodline by siring four quadjoons. Three down so far!

    , @SFG
    @AnotherDad

    I mean, Michelle Goldberg, Judith Butler, Gloria Steinem (half), Randi Zuckerberg, Donna Zuckerberg, Betty Friedan, Gloria Allred, Susan Brownmiller, Andrea Dworkin, Shulamith Firestone, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Hanna Rosin...

    ...you blame him?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Pixo

  53. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    But yes, in general the upward mobility of the Jews was remarkable. I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did.
     
    Jack, c'mon. We know you are lying, because we've been told endlessly that America--before the Jews bravely fought to take charge--was an oppressive hell-hole, full of racist, anti-Semites at Waspy Acres Country Club constantly scheming to hold Jews back, by enjoying a round of golf or drinks without Jewish humor and stopping Jewish boys from trying to bone their shiksa goddess daughters. (Deeply offensive to Jews, of course, known for their commitment to integration, and hatred of tribal endogamy.)

    Now you're trying to tell us Jews could just show up, use their smarts and get ahead. Liar!

    Replies: @Pixo, @Jack D

    All too often it is the shiksa goddess seducing the poor Jewish naïf.

    For a famous example:

    Gainsbourg, who spoke through his album l’homme à tête de chou, was flawless in Birkin’s eyes, as she once said: “He was a great man. I was just pretty”.

    The two met on the sets of the French film Slogan, directed by Pierre Grimblat, in 1968. Birkin was just out of her first marriage with composer John Barry and was still recovering from the heartbreak. While she didn’t speak a single word of French, she auditioned for the part anyway in what was likely a plot to get far away from the place which reminded her of the past. With an aching heart and infant in her arms, Birkin failed to see through Gainsbourg’s apparent roughness initially. Her brother Andrew recalled Jane’s feelings towards the musician, who said: “He’s horrible! that dreadful man Serge Bourgignon. He’s meant to be my lover but he’s so arrogant and snobbish and he absolutely despises me.”

    However, during a dinner party for the film’s cast and crew, Birkin took her chances and dragged Gainsbourg to the dance floor to make things easier between them. After initial protests, Gainsbourg not only joined her and danced the night away, but also went club hopping after that. The pair, highly intoxicated, returned to Gainsbourg’s hotel room, where he fell asleep instantly. Birkin spent the night watching him sleep and later said, “It was the most romantic of evenings”.

    In 1969, the duo worked together on a song which was initially written for Gainsbourg’s 1967 love affair Brigitte Bardot. A self-proclaimed “jealous lover”, Birkin offered to sing Bardot’s part on the track

    Once in the Paris bar Castle, Jane threw a custard tart at Serge and then chased him down Boulevard St Germain

  54. I am still surprised that General Leslie Groves was not portrayed by a black actor.

    • LOL: John Wear
  55. @SFG
    @Frau Katze

    Bohr was Jewish on his mom's side. Fermi's wife was Jewish (and a communist), which was why he left Italy.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    Hans Bethe was a Mischlinge, too. In his case, Gentile German father, Jewish mother. This was not uncommon in the Central European haute bourgeoisie, with the result being that many people didn’t even know they were classified as Jews until the Nazis informed them.

    Re, Fermi: it is worth remembering that Italian Fascism was not anti-Semitic until 1938, so Fermi did not have a reason to leave until then. That said, Fermi was the one who experimentally verified the successful discovery of fission in Berlin (Hahn, Strassmann, and Meitner) less than a year before the war started, and he was the one who brought the news across the Atlantic. He could not have been under any illusions about the risk. Nor could Einstein, who had worked down the hall from Hahn for nearly two decades and understood the connections people like von Weizsäcker had in the government.

    (Fermi was a truly amazing scientist. He was something we don’t see at all today: a fully fluent theorist and experimentalist.)

    It had been a crazy year in Italian physics: Majorana disappeared off the face of the earth not that much earlier.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @nebulafox

    Fermi fared a lot better (well, other than the "dying young" part) than his fellow Italian physicist Emilio Segre. At the outbreak of war Segre found himself in the US, but as a citizen of a hostile nation was prohibited from any sort of secret work. Knowing that Segre would be a vital asset to the Manhattan Project, Nobel Prize-winning physicist Ernest Lawrence called in all sorts of favors to get Segre cleared to work at Lawrence's Radiation Laboratory at the University of California.

    It was not quite as generous a gesture as it might seem. Knowing that Segre had no other job options, Lawrence proceeded to pay Segre - who was one of the world's top physicists, after all - a shockingly low salary, by some reports less than the facility's janitors earned. For the rest of his life Segre deeply resented Lawrence and the University of California.

    Replies: @Ministry Of Tongues

  56. @AnotherDad
    @Pixo


    So pleased to see my beautiful Ashkenazi brothers and sisters of color finally get a bit of representation in Hollywood!
     
    Funny Pixo ... but you've already admitted that rather than marrying back into the Tribe, you've gone full shiska and cast your children's lot with the Aryan brotherhood.

    Replies: @Pixo, @SFG

    I did make a fair effort to pair with a Jewess. But, omnia vincit amor, and I can properly continue my sacred bloodline by siring four quadjoons. Three down so far!

    • LOL: Frau Katze
  57. The national reckoning over racial justice after the killing of George Floyd

    My impression is that the term “racial reckoning” has largely been dropped from hard news sections of newspapers (e.g., political news) after the Biden Administration figured out sometime in mid-2022 that the George Floyd craze was a vote loser and put out the word to the MSM to ease off. But the soft sections in the back of the book weren’t CCed on the memo, so still adore the concept of the racial reckoning.

    spurred many of the country’s most distinguished institutions into action, few more so than the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

    Meant to say it on one of the prior AA or crime posts–about 3/4 of Steve’s last dozen posts have been about blacks (their dysfunction and need for help).

    The striking thing about the establishments hissy this past few years is just how retro the whole black, black, black thing is.

    The East Coast Jews who pipe the tune on this stuff are still see a world of oppressed blacks and racist whites or at least–much more likely–still think this the cudgel for beating the goyim. Theirs is a world of racist flyover Bull Connors Derek Chauvins oppressing the designated minority stand in for the Jews–blacks. You’d think it was 1963, and they were playing “Blowin’ in the Wind” on their turntables.

    But the world–America–has moved on. Blacks aren’t even the largest minority. There were 60 million Hispanics–just ones that they were able to count–in 2020. And that’s before the “Biden Administration” went all in on “drown the goyim!” and added 8 million more–far too many blacks, but they are still mostly Hispanics. And there are 20 million–and growing–Asians.

    And people do not understand how crazy these immigration numbers are. There are 40-45 million blacks in the US. But they have sub-replacement TFR and a pretty modern age pyramid.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans#Demographics
    only say 12 million or so of the 45 will be “breeding age”. But the border jumpers–actually under the “Biden Administration” no athleticism is required–are going to be mostly breeding age. People whom once settled will be having children. So the 8 million the “Biden Administration” has already let it in three years will be the breeding equivalent of about half the US black population.

    We are a rapidly Latinizing nation–with still a big black minority–why my “slumping toward Brazil” is really handy grab on where we are headed.

    The minoritarian yappers are apparently going to keep playing their 60s favorites until they are in the grave. But America simply isn’t that black and white nation anymore. Blacks–like Jews–may not find our “diverse” future quite to their liking.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @AnotherDad

    "Blacks–like Jews–may not find our “diverse” future quite to their liking."
    .
    I live in Southern California and can attest the the ascendant asians, mexicans etc. really don't give ashit about bLack grievance and whining. Only white liberals are weak enough to be manipulated by this group.

    Replies: @Mark G., @Currahee

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @AnotherDad

    Yep, Steve and many of his readers, especially the Jews, are mentally stuck in the 20th century. For a variety of reasons, they don't want to face the reality of 2024 America.

    In his heart, Steve is a missionary, wanting to raise up the quality of life of blacks by, in essence, forcing them to act more white.

    While not creating great neighborhoods, Hispanics just don't scratch that missionary itch for Steve. They do well enough without him. Of course, Asians and Indians don't need help.

    In addition, Steve loves to debate ideas and policies based on those ideas. Asians, Indians and Hispanics are turning the country tribal. Multiracial societies aren't about ideas; they're about tribe and dividing the pie. There's no place for Steve in that world.

    As to the Jews, Hispanics are fine, but they can't use Hispanics as a weapon against whites like they can blacks. But, more importantly, Asians and Indians are real competition both because they're smart and because they're way more tribal than whites.

    Asians and Indians don't care about some story from nearly 100 years ago in far off lands. Asians and Indians just see Jews as a powerful group that they need to deal with, not some special, holy victim.

    And that drives Jews nuts. Jews not only want to run the show, they everyone to pretend that they don't and to praise them for how good and special they are. Asians and Indians just treat them like any other group.

    You can see why Steve and Jack would want to stay in the 20th century.

  58. The obvious way that “Oppenheimer” could have been made more diverse would have been to add Japanese actors portraying ordinary people going about their lives on what would be their last day.

    • Agree: Gordo
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @B36

    Especially the Catholic ones.

    , @Wokechoke
    @B36

    Is there a drama that does what you describe?

    Replies: @Tex

  59. “But critics from an array of perspectives in the film industry have described the standards as the equivalent of tinsel — flimsy and showy — doing more to gild Hollywood’s image than to help people the movie business has long overlooked.”

    black supremacists used to call all affirmative action welfare “tokenism,” no matter how many gibsmedats were handed out to unqualified and unfit blacks. The new euphemism is “tinsel.”

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Nicholas Stix


    “But critics from an array of perspectives in the film industry have described the standards as the equivalent of tinsel — flimsy and showy — doing more to gild Hollywood’s image than to help people the movie business has long overlooked.”
     
    How could the industry that brought us "Sharknado," "Frankenhooker," and the last three installments of "Star Wars" let us down?

    Personally, I’m not watching this maliciously white movie. I’m finna wait for the black Broadway musical version next year. If casting has any sense, Oppenheimer will be played by Jimmy Walker. He’s an American black national treasure, and Mexicans like him too.
  60. anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:

    You sometimes hear the amusing argument from lefties that “left-wingers were so overrepresented in the Manhattan Project because we’re just smarter.” And: “Communists and Jews were overrepresented because they’re lefties.” This parallels the argument that Jews make about themselves: that they were overrepresented because they’re “smarter.”

    [MORE]

    Well, first of all, the Jews who worked on the Manhattan project were mostly not motivated by left-wing ideology but by a Jewish ethnocentric one. There’s nothing “left-wing” about building weapons to drop on your ethnic enemies. There’s nothing “left-wing” about advancing your own group’s ethnic interests. If Jews were actually “left-wing” then they wouldn’t particularly care what happened to other Jews any more (or less) than they care about was happens to Chinamen, Hindus or Germans They would have either dissolved into gentile society and/or behaved in a manner which didn’t provoke the resentment of their German hosts in the first place.

    In any event, a large part of the reason – if not the primary reason – that there were so many Jews and communists on the Manhattan Project is because they could be politically relied upon in a war against Notsea Germany.

    If it had really all been about brains (and not political reliability), then why were Jews selected even for such roles as machinist and assassin? Why was David Greenglass picked to work as a machinist on the project? They couldn’t find a gentile machinist? Because they required “brilliance” in lathe work and couldn’t find someone who wasn’t a secret communist spy?

    Was the blunder-prone baseball player turned assassin Morris Berg, who was recruited to kill Heisenberg chosen because he was so smart? One needs brilliance to shoot someone? Or because he was Jewish and thus could be relied upon to, effectively, martyr himself for his tribe? (I.e., risk getting caught and hanged after murdering a German scientist.) They couldn’t find anybody more qualified for the job than Moe “drop-gun” Berg?

    https://www.espn.com/classic/biography/s/Berg_Moe.html
    https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/wwii-spies-morris-moe-berg/

    Or, take the gentile Fermi. Why was he involved? A non-Jew and non-communist? He might be unreliable, right? Except that he had a Jewish wife… seems reliable to me.

    In truth, Jews and communists (and the spouses thereof) were overrepresented because they were (1) politically reliable, (2) motivated to kill Germans and (3) because they (like Oppenheimer and Fuchs) had knowledge and skills which they’d gained in the German university system that could be taken to the United States and implemented in the only country in the world at the time with an industrial base large enough to make the bomb a physical reality.

    It would be like if, today, a group of Chinese communist researchers/spies took everything that they learned in (relatively open) American universities and corporations about AI to China, where it was then used to train a WWIII-winning AI weapon on the only supercomputer big enough (and power hungry enough) to make such a thing possible. And then they used their AI weapon to (ungratefully) destroy the nation in whose institutions they learned everything. Was AI “their” invention or was it really the work of thousands of researchers operating within high-trust Western institutions (some of them being Chinese or communists, but most of them not) which was responsible for the development of the AI weapon? Was their primary role one of discovery or of espionage? Was AI the product of their personal “hard work” or the product of the open Western university system (which they’d easily penetrated and stolen from)?

    Would the “Chinese” discovery prove that Han Chinese are an intellectual master race who ought “meritocratically” rule over the rest of mankind, as they might argue? Or, does it just prove that the Chinese (like Jews) are exceptionally motivated spies?

    Were non-Han/non-communists excluded from working on the project because they weren’t smart enough or because they weren’t deemed politically reliable enough? Will there be a blogger named “Xi Sai La” in the year 2123 who runs interference for the global Han ruling class by arguing that the “Han discovery of a WWIII-winning AI super weapon proves their intellectual superiority” and justifies their tyranny over the rest of mankind? What’s more petty and “pathetic”: questioning such a supremacist narrative or pushing it?

  61. “Added 8/5/23, Oppenheimer was a Fraud.
    Using mostly the new film and Wikipedia, I blow this one sky high.

    http://mileswmathis.com/oppen.pdf

  62. OT: “Stix Vindicated! Academics, Magazine Confirm Big City Police are ‘Disappearing’ Crime”
    (That’s not my chosen title; Peter Brimelow gave it to my report.)

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2024/03/stix-vindicated-academics-magazine.html

    • Thanks: tyrone
  63. @SafeNow
    As I posted previously, Christopher Nolan, although born a Brit, does Jewish filmmaking: Materialistic, intellectual, with dissension and contentiousness featuring strongly and putting a spring into the heels of the various actors. Thus, the Hollywood Jewish mafia embraced the style and ethos of his work. As did the film critics who worked for the mainstream media, because they knew what was good for them. So that’s how he got away with it.

    Btw, as I detailed before, “Past Lives” is a better film. The Ebert.com panel rated it as the number-two movie of 2023, so it is not just a SafeNow recommendation. Ebert.com placed “Oppenheimer” close behind at number three. (But I personally believe past lives is far better .)

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Muggles, @Corpse Tooth, @Bardon Kaldian, @Wokechoke, @Erik L

    Jews, as an ethnicity, have some recognizable mannerisms & stereotypes, but I don’t think there is such thing as “Jewish filmmaking”.

    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @Bardon Kaldian

    'I don’t think there is such thing as “Jewish filmmaking”.'

    So, so wrong. Jews love making films where people stand around talking at or screaming at each other and there is no plot. Nothing happens. Often there are no scene changes. Preferably including lots of gratuitous and excessive profanity. Unwatchable bilge - unless you're a jew, I spose.

    Replies: @International Jew, @Bardon Kaldian, @Ministry Of Tongues, @Jack D

    , @J.Ross
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Filmmaking is the Jews' own thing cleanly, they invented it. Their native art is storytelling and it's a modern form of storytelling. They conceived of and built Hollywood when it was a couple of date farms. No one was displaced or murdered to make Hollywood. Objecting to Jewish filmmaking is like objecting to German(/Austrian) music composition.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  64. Steve wrote (not an actual caption, I think) :

    Caption: An image from the movie “Oppenheimer” that shows Cillian Murphy in a crowd that is very homogeneous.

    Nolan dodged a bullet at the last minute by cutting out the scene, begrudgingly shot to appease the Academy, of Cillian Murphy reprising his drag persona from Breakfast on Pluto doing a cabaret number billed as “Enola Gaylord”.

    • LOL: Mike Tre
  65. OT: “Remembering 19-Month-Old Christopher Marchiselli, One of New York’s ‘Disappeared’ Murders”

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2024/03/monday-april-27-2015-remembering-19.html

  66. @Alden
    The answer is easy. Oppenheimer and the other men who created the atom bomb were communist Jews. Recently arrived communist Jews who spoke Yiddish at home and among themselves immigrants and some American born Yiddish speaking communist Jews.

    And had a superb communist Jewish courier service to send their research to communist Jewish spies in NYC Who sent the information on to Stalin.

    If they were all old American Christian goys no movie would ever been made.

    Replies: @Sir Didymus, @Houston 1992

    In other words, if it weren’t for the Jews we would be living in a world free from the risk of nuclear annihilation.

  67. @Anon
    Sailer wants to know why special exceptions always seem to apply to (((white))) men.

    Is Steve just playing dumb at this point?

    Could it be the same reason that Jews are allowed to be admitted way above their representative share of the overall population at the Ivies - something like 10 to 20+% when they make up just 2% of the overall population? (While white gentiles are vastly underrepresented relative to, not only merit, but their absolute fraction of the general population.)

    Could it be the same reason that Jews are allowed to make up over half of the top positions in Biden's Cabinet?

    For some reason, the demands that those in positions of power and prestige be "representative" of the general population never seems to apply to Jews who are always given special exemption from suffering the same consequences of affirmative action as white gentiles are.

    Notably, despite all the universalistic rhetoric, similar vast Jewish overrepresentation in positions of authority also occurred in the USSR. Because, as Orwell observed: All animals are equal but some animals are just more equal than others.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @JimDandy

    I used to think that Steve was being clever, but now, I’m beginning to think that he really is confused about why certain things happen.

    Despite almost daily mocking of the MSM, Steve never asks who pays for all of this silliness. I think willful ignorance is a prerequisite for Steve’s class.

    I mean, Charles Murray recently tweeted that he couldn’t think of one negative thing about Jews being allowed to rise to their level of prominence over the past 200 years. Not one.

    Steve lives in that same world.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    That's the result of decades of intense self insulation.

    , @mc23
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Ron Unz is more realistic. European Jewish exceptionalism is off the charts in the 20th century both for better and worse.


    https://www.unz.com/runz/gaza-and-the-dangers-of-jewish-paranoia/#:~:text=Meanwhile%2C%20all%20historians,gasping%20in%20awe.

    , @Renard
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Charles Murray recently tweeted that he couldn’t think of one negative thing about Jews being allowed to rise to their level of prominence over the past 200 years. Not one.
     
    Coincidentally, Charles Murray gets his books released by prestige publishers.
  68. @Frau Katze
    @Jack D

    But not all the scientists on the Manhattan Project were Jews, although they were over represented.

    Some who weren’t: Enrico Fermi, Hans Bethe (apparently his mother had a Jewish background but was not raised in the faith), Glen T Seaborg (Swedish descent), Klaus Fuchs (spy, German Protestant), Luis Walter Alvarez (Catholic of Spanish descent), Neils Bohr (Danish).

    There’s plenty more.

    Replies: @Jack D, @SFG, @Bardon Kaldian, @Ben Kurtz

    There were far less Jews than most people usually think, especially among post WW2 chemistry Nobelists. Of course, among the most important scientists Jews were over 50%, but only specialists (or aficionados) know how many truly essential problems have been solved by whom. The contributions of many famous & significant people have been debated over years.

    Actually, it is impossible to ascertain this, because those contributions are not commensurable.

    My opinion is that A-bomb (and, later, H-bomb) is one of those breakthroughs that would have happened, sooner or later & that the US had uncanny advantages (big country, safe, vast resources). Just, due to the nature of physics (and other sciences) no similar breakthrough has occurred since. Those who read Clarke’s “Childhood’s End” will know what I am talking about.

    Human capability to wage a war did not have any truly new revolution after the A/H-bomb.

    I’m waiting.

    • Agree: Frau Katze
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Bardon Kaldian


    '...My opinion is that A-bomb (and, later, H-bomb) is one of those breakthroughs that would have happened, sooner or later & that the US had uncanny advantages (big country, safe, vast resources)... '
     
    Yeah. Around 1942, the atomic bomb became more of an engineering problem than anything else.
  69. ‘How “Oppenheimer,” a movie about the men who developed the atomic bomb, met the new standards…’

    Well, they were Jews. There are a few non-sequiturs packed into that argument — but the goyim will never notice.

    They’re too dumb. Ain’t that right?

  70. @AnotherDad
    @Pixo


    So pleased to see my beautiful Ashkenazi brothers and sisters of color finally get a bit of representation in Hollywood!
     
    Funny Pixo ... but you've already admitted that rather than marrying back into the Tribe, you've gone full shiska and cast your children's lot with the Aryan brotherhood.

    Replies: @Pixo, @SFG

    I mean, Michelle Goldberg, Judith Butler, Gloria Steinem (half), Randi Zuckerberg, Donna Zuckerberg, Betty Friedan, Gloria Allred, Susan Brownmiller, Andrea Dworkin, Shulamith Firestone, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Hanna Rosin…

    …you blame him?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @SFG

    Unfairly selective.

    , @Pixo
    @SFG

    My most serious relationship with a Jewess was a lovely girl from a rich family who was the highest scoring white female in the entire USA in the Putnam math competition.

    She wasn’t a leftist, but didn’t want children until she was 35+ and said this to me at 23. She was born when her mother was 42 and seemed pretty serious, and is married for 10+ years now without children. No amount of IQ, family money, and the Khazar M’s she was gifted with were worth a sterile future. So I ended it.

    My “shiksa goddess” babymama by contrast was born when her mother was 18, and at 24 and single when we met, was feeling like the old maid of her family.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  71. Um, because they were Jewish.

    I can’t tell if you’re joking or just brainwashed.

  72. Its plot — about the classified program to develop the atomic bomb — is centered on powerful and privileged men who work at the nation’s most elite academic institutions.

    They could have worked in Louis Till.

    More than 250 Hollywood insiders signed an open letter in January imploring the academy to revise its standards to include Jews.

    Hey, it worked in the past…

  73. @tyrone
    @Jack D


    Jewish Communists and Communist Jews
     
    And so the Soviet Union popped smoke in 1949

    Replies: @Jack D

    I kid. The real spy at Los Alamos was Fuchs who was a Lutheran Aryan. It’s always the one you suspect the least. Aldrich Ames. Robert Hanssen. Whitaker Chambers. Kim Philby. Real spies don’t attend Communist Party meetings that are infiltrated by the FBI.

    • Replies: @From Beer to Paternity
    @Jack D

    Felix Bloch. Now there's a guy whose diplomatic career deserves telling. A fascinating yet most banal story. #Robert Hanssen

    , @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    The Jew As Informational Leader.

    , @Colin Wright
    @Jack D


    'I kid. The real spy at Los Alamos was Fuchs who was a Lutheran Aryan. It’s always the one you suspect the least. Aldrich Ames. Robert Hanssen. Whitaker Chambers. Kim Philby. Real spies don’t attend Communist Party meetings that are infiltrated by the FBI.'
     
    JackD reveals: not all spies have been Jews.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Wielgus, @res, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    , @tyrone
    @Jack D


    The real spy
     
    Don't forget the Rosenbergs ........guilty as hell.

    a Lutheran Aryan
     
    Who even uses that word "ayran " ,unless you are talking about yummy fermented milk products from Central Asia.
  74. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    But yes, in general the upward mobility of the Jews was remarkable. I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did.
     
    Jack, c'mon. We know you are lying, because we've been told endlessly that America--before the Jews bravely fought to take charge--was an oppressive hell-hole, full of racist, anti-Semites at Waspy Acres Country Club constantly scheming to hold Jews back, by enjoying a round of golf or drinks without Jewish humor and stopping Jewish boys from trying to bone their shiksa goddess daughters. (Deeply offensive to Jews, of course, known for their commitment to integration, and hatred of tribal endogamy.)

    Now you're trying to tell us Jews could just show up, use their smarts and get ahead. Liar!

    Replies: @Pixo, @Jack D

    You have to look at the period involved. No one gives a damn about the stupid country club but from the 1920s to the 1960s Yale had a Jewish quota.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    You have to look at the period involved. No one gives a damn about the stupid country club but from the 1920s to the 1960s Yale had a Jewish quota.
     
    Bah, wah, wah. So what? It was they Wasp's university. They built it. And they wanted to keep it that way and have it available for their own kids. And heck, they gave you a big ass quota--many times the Jewish population share. Jews annoyed by it? Stop whining and build your own 'effing university. The Catholics built over 100 of them.

    Go ahead, start your verbal bullshitting. Just whine on ... and on ... and on. The vast Jewish sense of entitlement to other people's stuff ... it never gets old.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Ben Kurtz

  75. An Ohio appeals court vacated part of a lower court order that had banned an individual from possessing firearms for a year. Appeals court found lower court order to violate law.

    • Thanks: Goddard
  76. @SFG
    @AnotherDad

    I mean, Michelle Goldberg, Judith Butler, Gloria Steinem (half), Randi Zuckerberg, Donna Zuckerberg, Betty Friedan, Gloria Allred, Susan Brownmiller, Andrea Dworkin, Shulamith Firestone, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Hanna Rosin...

    ...you blame him?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Pixo

    Unfairly selective.

  77. @SFG
    @James J. O'Meara

    Wait, so they were in a world war with the world's foremost industrial power that had defeated several countries, and you're saying he wanted a superweapon *because the Jews tricked him*?

    Replies: @Jack D

    Add Groves to the list of goyim who just fell off the turnip truck. WNs have no respect for white people because they think that they are all like their Uncle Cletus and Cousin Billy Bob, always gettin’ tricked.

    Gen. Leslie Groves (MIT & West Point) was not that easy to trick. Nowadays white people have sadly declined and you have idiots like Joe Biden in high office. When people here say that the Jews have tricked him they might even be right.

    But in those days Jews had the utmost respect for educated white people and looked upon them as their role models. The Jews were newcomers and didn’t know what was what but the great WASPs clearly had their shit together and were worthy of emulation. Oppenheimer considered Bohr to be a father figure. Even the Jewish socialists greatly admired the great WASP socialist Eugene V. Debs. The Yiddish radio station in NY had the call sign WEVD in his honor.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    If I'm not mistaken, Debs family was Alsatian.
    ==
    About Biden, have a gander at the Democratic pols &c. who set up campaign committees. You had three men who had built businesses from scratch (one of whom had been Mayor of New York), another man who had experience both as a business executive and a state governor, and another man who had been elected governor of a red state. The Democratic primary electorate had no interest in any of these men. Instead, they took an interest in a walking resume with a butt buddy who'd had a perfectly meh record as mayor of a small city, a lapsed prosecutor with a history of abusing subordinates, a quondam law professor whose career had been crucially advanced by affirmative action fraud, and an old Trotskyist (who'd ironically performed satisfactorily as a mayor) railing aganst rich people from each of his three homes. And who wins but a stew of pathology, corruption, and stupidity who had been ignored in 2008 and laughed off the stage in 1987. Here's your problem: Democratic primary voters are refuse. Their primary electorate is a collecting pool of people who have no interest in authentic accomplishment at all, likely cannot recognize it.

    Replies: @SFG

  78. @IHTG

    “Oppenheimer” still easily met the diversity requirements for Best Picture.
     
    How? You ought to have quoted that part.

    Replies: @40 Lashes Less One, @Currahee, @Anon, @jb

    Simple: Jewish characters dominated the drama and they consider themselves to be nonwhite. Just ask them.

  79. Brother Zero: Saint John of God, Who was Understood by God Alone

    It was ever to seem an impossible thing for him to have done, an act completely out of harmony with his nature. An only child, he had lacked nether love nor care nor anything that his modestly, well-off parents could give him. A quiet, self-sufficient child, he enjoyed being and playing by himself. He was not lonely, not a boy to seek adventure beyond the gates of Montemor. Nor was there any need for his parents to be cross and reprimand him for he was naturally obedient. Scoldings and punishments which sometimes provoke a child to rebelliousness and spur him to run away from home were not within John Ciudad’s experience.

    How explain it then? Human reasoning produced no answer. It never occurred to John to see it for what it was: God’s strange way of setting him on the long road that was to take him through thirty-three years of wandering before he was to find is true work and his cross, the one that was meant for him from all eternity. His mother, Teresa Ciudad, saw the hand of God in the odd event of his flight from home. The fugitive himself caught no glimpse of the Divine Will in this inscrutable design. A humble shepherd in Spain these many years, John pondered it over and over and became increasingly restless. But where this disquietude was to take him he did not know. Certainly he never imagined that his childhood escape from home and country was a painful preparation for the day when, as a layman supervising other laymen, he would lay the foundations of a great religious Order. Such an idea was as immeasurably remote from his thoughts as was the glow of his little fire on the slope from the diamond-blaze of the farthest star. (Corville Newcomb, Brother Zero: A Story of the Life of Saint John God, Dodd and Mead and Company, 1959, pp. 2-3; I will cite simply the page numbers in each of the references to this book provided in this reflection.)

    http://www.christorchaos.com/?q=content/brother-zero-saint-john-god-who-was-understood-god-alone

    St John of God, Pray for us!

  80. @Gordo
    Sam Waterston made a far better Oppenheimer than Murphy.

    More Jewy, simple as.

    Let’s keep it real dudes, just add darkies to the ballast; executive director etcetera.

    Replies: @CalCooledge, @Hibernian, @SFG

    Meeting the DEI requirements and still making a good movie is simple: make all the ‘diverse’ people “First Officer of DEI”, then send them on a permanent lunch break. Then with the deadweight out of the way, make a good movie.

    • Agree: Gordo
  81. @AnotherDad


    The national reckoning over racial justice after the killing of George Floyd
     
    My impression is that the term “racial reckoning” has largely been dropped from hard news sections of newspapers (e.g., political news) after the Biden Administration figured out sometime in mid-2022 that the George Floyd craze was a vote loser and put out the word to the MSM to ease off. But the soft sections in the back of the book weren’t CCed on the memo, so still adore the concept of the racial reckoning.

    spurred many of the country’s most distinguished institutions into action, few more so than the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.
     

     
    Meant to say it on one of the prior AA or crime posts--about 3/4 of Steve's last dozen posts have been about blacks (their dysfunction and need for help).

    The striking thing about the establishments hissy this past few years is just how retro the whole black, black, black thing is.

    The East Coast Jews who pipe the tune on this stuff are still see a world of oppressed blacks and racist whites or at least--much more likely--still think this the cudgel for beating the goyim. Theirs is a world of racist flyover Bull Connors Derek Chauvins oppressing the designated minority stand in for the Jews--blacks. You'd think it was 1963, and they were playing "Blowin' in the Wind" on their turntables.

    But the world--America--has moved on. Blacks aren't even the largest minority. There were 60 million Hispanics--just ones that they were able to count--in 2020. And that's before the "Biden Administration" went all in on "drown the goyim!" and added 8 million more--far too many blacks, but they are still mostly Hispanics. And there are 20 million--and growing--Asians.

    And people do not understand how crazy these immigration numbers are. There are 40-45 million blacks in the US. But they have sub-replacement TFR and a pretty modern age pyramid.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans#Demographics
    only say 12 million or so of the 45 will be "breeding age". But the border jumpers--actually under the "Biden Administration" no athleticism is required--are going to be mostly breeding age. People whom once settled will be having children. So the 8 million the "Biden Administration" has already let it in three years will be the breeding equivalent of about half the US black population.

    We are a rapidly Latinizing nation--with still a big black minority--why my "slumping toward Brazil" is really handy grab on where we are headed.

    The minoritarian yappers are apparently going to keep playing their 60s favorites until they are in the grave. But America simply isn't that black and white nation anymore. Blacks--like Jews--may not find our "diverse" future quite to their liking.

    Replies: @Anon, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    “Blacks–like Jews–may not find our “diverse” future quite to their liking.”
    .
    I live in Southern California and can attest the the ascendant asians, mexicans etc. really don’t give ashit about bLack grievance and whining. Only white liberals are weak enough to be manipulated by this group.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Anon

    The Asian and Hispanic immigrants are certainly an improvement over our native Blacks. They haven't done much to push the country to the right, though.

    Asians come from a culture that traditionally did not place much value on freedom and individual rights. They, along with Hispanics, might support a future socially conservative Republican presidential candidate. It is unlikely they will support a candidate that believes in the limited government principles most Americans believed in during earlier generations. We are not going back to someone like Coolidge or even Eisenhower.

    Replies: @tyrone

    , @Currahee
    @Anon

    Mexicans in particular. They carry no white guilt nonsense and see blacks for exactly what they are:
    animals.

  82. @SFG
    @AnotherDad

    I mean, Michelle Goldberg, Judith Butler, Gloria Steinem (half), Randi Zuckerberg, Donna Zuckerberg, Betty Friedan, Gloria Allred, Susan Brownmiller, Andrea Dworkin, Shulamith Firestone, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Hanna Rosin...

    ...you blame him?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Pixo

    My most serious relationship with a Jewess was a lovely girl from a rich family who was the highest scoring white female in the entire USA in the Putnam math competition.

    She wasn’t a leftist, but didn’t want children until she was 35+ and said this to me at 23. She was born when her mother was 42 and seemed pretty serious, and is married for 10+ years now without children. No amount of IQ, family money, and the Khazar M’s she was gifted with were worth a sterile future. So I ended it.

    My “shiksa goddess” babymama by contrast was born when her mother was 18, and at 24 and single when we met, was feeling like the old maid of her family.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Pixo

    You dodged a bullet.

    By the way- I didn't think about it- which is the fertility rate of US secular Jews, i.e. not persons with some Jewish ancestry, nor religious folks? I mean families where both spouses are Jewish.

    I guess it is about the same as other middle class whites, although I haven't seen the data.

  83. @martin_2

    didn’t stop Christopher Nolan from making a serious, original movie on an important topic intended to lure grown-ups with three digit IQs back to the movie theaters that made $900 million at the box office.
     
    I didn't think it was serious and it was not original in a good way. If Oppenheimer is considered a good film then I haven't been lured back.

    Replies: @From Beer to Paternity

    I didn’t think it was serious and it was not original in a good way. If Oppenheimer is considered a good film then I haven’t been lured back.

    It was decent enough for me to sit through it without falling asleep. But in the theater I was in, it was so freaking loud that I found myself wishing I had the hearing protection that I’d use when shooting.

    When the Trinity test was depicted, at least I was prepared and it was cool. Was Feynman really doing that silly bongo playing after the test? Wonder how many caught that. I know it was a schtick of his, but I’m curious if he was really that goofy. I doubt it (but he definitely had an ego proportional w/ his IQ).

    It was a movie. I kept wanting a big-ass bucket of popcorn with extra butter. And hearing protection.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @From Beer to Paternity


    Was Feynman really doing that silly bongo playing after the test? Wonder how many caught that. I know it was a schtick of his, but I’m curious if he was really that goofy. I doubt it (but he definitely had an ego proportional w/ his IQ).
     
    Bongo- no, that's rubbish; Feynman was an eccentric, but not an egoist. He was one of the most psychologically mature & selfless persons to grace physics. Always ready to admit others' accomplishments, never demeaning others, actually very critical about his abilities. A free spirit.

    Gell-Mann was a miserable envious midget.

    Replies: @From Beer to Paternity, @James B. Shearer, @That Would Be Telling

  84. The Hill: DEI killed the CHIPS Act

    now approaching the DIE YT event horizon where America is unable to do anything because the diversity rules swallow any project into a black hole.

    Samsung and Intel halted their projects. TSMC gave up and opened a factory in Japan instead.

    • Thanks: MEH 0910
    • Replies: @res
    @prime noticer

    Thanks. I had no idea the CHIPS Act was that bad. The worst is what do you want to bet all of the DIE dreck happens without actually building more fabs?

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    , @Voltarde
    @prime noticer

    HBCUs Taking Bite of Apple’s Chip Engineer Effort
    https://www.eetimes.com/hbcus-taking-bite-of-apples-chip-fab-engineer-effort/

    I'm sure everyone looks forward to iPhones of the future that contain logic and memory semiconductors designed and manufactured by HBCU graduates.

    , @Bill Jones
    @prime noticer

    Thanks for that link.

    This piece made me smile "Taiwan, which China is preparing to annex by 2027"

    How can China annex territory which is Internationally recognized as part of China?

    Including, btw, on the US State Dept's own website. You remember the One China Policy, don't you.

    Every single piece from the US media is stock full of lies and bullshit.

  85. @Jack D
    @tyrone

    I kid. The real spy at Los Alamos was Fuchs who was a Lutheran Aryan. It's always the one you suspect the least. Aldrich Ames. Robert Hanssen. Whitaker Chambers. Kim Philby. Real spies don't attend Communist Party meetings that are infiltrated by the FBI.

    Replies: @From Beer to Paternity, @J.Ross, @Colin Wright, @tyrone

    Felix Bloch. Now there’s a guy whose diplomatic career deserves telling. A fascinating yet most banal story. #Robert Hanssen

  86. My uncle (the father of the crazy cousin I mention often) was married to a Jewish woman before he met my aunt. He spoke about the experience in the same kind of hushed tones that a combat veteran might use to describe an ambush in which his entire platoon was wiped out.

    • LOL: Mike Tre, AnotherDad
    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Stan Adams

    "She used... sarcasm... She knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. She was vicious."

  87. @Jack D
    @tyrone

    I kid. The real spy at Los Alamos was Fuchs who was a Lutheran Aryan. It's always the one you suspect the least. Aldrich Ames. Robert Hanssen. Whitaker Chambers. Kim Philby. Real spies don't attend Communist Party meetings that are infiltrated by the FBI.

    Replies: @From Beer to Paternity, @J.Ross, @Colin Wright, @tyrone

    The Jew As Informational Leader.

  88. @Thomm
    @Pixo

    If all of the world’s people were Ashkenazi Jews, human society would be about 350 years more advanced today than it is now. Their excellence in science, entertainment, finance, law, economics, literature, and more would be able to manifest on a much larger scale. Plus, if everyone is Jewish, there are no non-Jews for them to manipulate, so they will work in unison towards the big picture.

    The technological level would be comparable to what we see in Star Trek : The Next Generation. We would have warp drive, replicators, holodecks, and an interstellar civilization by now. We would already have started spreading out across the galaxy.

    This, of course, requires the genetic component of Ashkenazi Jews. Converting WN wiggers (avg. IQ: 70) to Judaism will not suddenly add 40+ points to their respective IQs.

    Even non-Jews with Jewish names, such as Morris Seligman Dees and Whoopi Goldberg (who still retains her original legal name Caryn Johnson) became much more successful than they would have been without the Jewish name. Ms. Johnson gave it to herself, so is even smarter than Mr. Dees. Ms. Johnson is an EGOT, only the fourth woman and first black person to complete the quartet of major awards. It is safe to say her talent is not on par with previous EGOT winners like Rita Moreno.

    Hey, it is true. The WN wiggers here routinely say that if all humans where black Africans, we would still be at around 1500 BC. By that same token, if all humans were Ashkenazi Jews, we would be 350 years ahead of where we are today.

    Thanks,
    - Mordecai Velvel Rabinowitz

    Replies: @awry, @QCIC, @pyrrhus, @Redneck Farmer, @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Slim, @AndrewR

    Factual problem…until the 20th century, Jews contributed virtually nothing to science…

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @pyrrhus

    And then they contributed a lot.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Sir Didymus

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @pyrrhus

    I don't think so. They were prominent in the Golden age of Islamic science where they comprised perhaps 15% of significant figures. George Sarton wrote about it (just, I read about it long ago). In the west, there were prominent Jewish figures in the 19th C in sciences, primarily mathematics- Jacobi, Kronecker, Sylvester,...Hertz in physics. Eisenstein (not a director) was lauded by Gauss, but he died young. Gotthold.

    , @mc23
    @pyrrhus

    It's around 1870 that Jewish contributions start to ramp up. The Scientific Revolution and Industrial Revolution had already taken place. Inspite of impressive Jewish contributions there's little that wouldn't have happened in due course including the development of nuclear energy.

    The popular histories of Daniel Boorstein and Barbara Tuchman would always work in a Jewish angle when covering history or various advancements and discoveries and you're left to wonder much of a difference their contribution made. There was also a steady stream of converted Jews who directly or through their families made large contributions in different areas. For example Jewish Conversos played a large part in the Jesuit order.

  89. One high-profile move involved the academy’s most coveted trophy: To qualify for the best picture Oscar, films had to fulfill a new set of diversity and inclusion standards.

    I guess that will cement it: big, prestige movies will henceforth officially be crap.

    Its plot — about the classified program to develop the atomic bomb — is centered on powerful and privileged men who work at the nation’s most elite academic institutions.

    Academic physicists back then had some privilege, in so far as a it’s a privilege to get paid to do physics. They didn’t get paid that much. And they worked very hard to earn that modicum of “privilege”. But the idea that scientists are “powerful” is just downright stupid. Only a journalist or a college freshman could write something that ignorant of how the World actually works.

    Scientists – real scientists, the kind who actually do science (as distinct from technocratic frauds like Anthony Fauci) – aren’t powerful. The oligarch and political class – the people who have real power – view them as nothing more than the hired help.

  90. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    You have to look at the period involved. No one gives a damn about the stupid country club but from the 1920s to the 1960s Yale had a Jewish quota.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    You have to look at the period involved. No one gives a damn about the stupid country club but from the 1920s to the 1960s Yale had a Jewish quota.

    Bah, wah, wah. So what? It was they Wasp’s university. They built it. And they wanted to keep it that way and have it available for their own kids. And heck, they gave you a big ass quota–many times the Jewish population share. Jews annoyed by it? Stop whining and build your own ‘effing university. The Catholics built over 100 of them.

    Go ahead, start your verbal bullshitting. Just whine on … and on … and on. The vast Jewish sense of entitlement to other people’s stuff … it never gets old.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @AnotherDad

    There are a great many foundationally Catholic colleges (over 200), but only a dozen or so research universities. (BC, Fordham, Catholic University of America, Georgetown, Notre Dame, DePaul, Loyola of Chicago, Marquette, St. Louis, and, just under the envelope, St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova, the University of Dayton, and the University of Dallas). The Church was demographically much larger than the Jewish population and had organized manpower and ready forms to build institutions of all kinds. When the religious orders imploded demographically, the Catholic character of these institutions evaporated.
    ==
    In other liturgical bodies, you had an established hierarchy, but it didn't produce much more than a few teaching institutions. Not sure the Orthodox bodies established anything but seminaries.

    , @Ben Kurtz
    @AnotherDad


    Stop whining and build your own ‘effing university.
     
    Which the Jews did.

    I can think of three right off the top of my head: Yeshiva University in Upper Manhattan, Brandies University in suburban Boston, and Touro College in the New York's outer boroughs.

    There are probably a couple more that I'm forgetting, and these are of course separate from religious seminaries and rabbinical colleges, of which there are many across the land.

    Replies: @Jack D

  91. • Replies: @BB753
    @dux.ie

    Oppenheimer was secretly a Chinese commie spy, lol!

  92. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "It’s amazing the Fat Man bomb went off at all without Hidden Figures to check von Neumann’s math."

    It's amazing Uncle Samantha didn't bother filming the first ever military use of atomic bombs.

    It's amazing that damage caused by atomic bombs looks 100% identical to damage caused by Uncle Samantha's sustained firebombing campaigns of Japanese cities.

    It's amazing I can find only CGI reenactments of atomic bomb detonations, but no film or video.

    It's amazing that no one has used an atomic bomb since WWII.

    It's amazing Boomers think atomic bombs are real.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @epebble, @p38ace, @AlmaMater

    It’s amazing I can find only CGI reenactments of atomic bomb detonations, but no film or video.

    It’s amazing that so many people now can’t tell the difference between actual film and CGI.

    It’s amazing that so many people now are technically and historically illiterate.

    It’s amazing that so many people actually believe that the Earth is flat.

    It’s amazing that these people are even able to avoid drowing when it rains.

    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @Mr. Anon

    "It’s amazing that so many people now can’t tell the difference between actual film and CGI."

    Yup, I left that howler* in my list to hook low-IQ suckers like yourself. Care to address my other, real, points?

    *the detonation [sic] of an 'atomic bomb' looks identical to any other large bomb, so film of a test detonation proves only that a large bomb was sploded and nothing more

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  93. @Jack D
    @Frau Katze

    Julius (aka J. Robert) himself grew up in privilege. The movie raises this as a point of friction between himself and Lewis Strauss, who was himself a self-made man. Strauss was intimidated and intellectually threatened by the well educated and snooty, privileged Oppenheimer and this led in part to Strauss trying to cut Oppenheimer down a notch.

    von Neumann also had a very privileged background. However, some of the scientists (e.g. Feynman) grew up in very modest circumstances.

    But yes, in general the upward mobility of the Jews was remarkable. I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did. I think it's hilarious/sad when they interview some illegal alien who has been here for 20 years and the interview is in Spanish because in 20 years said alien hasn't learned two words of Ingles.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad, @Art Deco, @kaganovitch

    But yes, in general the upward mobility of the Jews was remarkable. I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did. I think it’s hilarious/sad when they interview some illegal alien who has been here for 20 years and the interview is in Spanish because in 20 years said alien hasn’t learned two words of Ingles.

    Jack, I suggest you spend a moment and contemplate your own paragraph here.

    While hardly complete, the bookends alone are telling.

    Yeah, America has been very, very good to the Jews.
    The reverse … uh … not so much.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @AnotherDad

    Migrate to a new country get to sit in legal judgement of settled locals. The self unawareness of these folks.

    , @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    The first part I agree with - America has been very good to the Jews. Before the 1960s there were a few doors closed to them but there were plenty of opportunities that remained and since the '60s almost no doors have been closed.

    But you are blaming "the Jews" for the Mexican guy? Sorry, buddy, "the Jews" didn't do this. The idea that Jews are the ones responsible for illegal immigration is just another antisemitic canard like blaming them for the slave trade. Responsibility for illegal immigration is diffuse and does not fall solely upon the Jews' heads.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Corvinus
    @AnotherDad

    “Yeah, America has been very, very good to the Jews. The reverse … uh … not so much”

    Says you and your ilk. But you won’t do anything of substance to address it.

    It’s quite comical that the wolf continues to ravage an entire flock, and yet those people won’t put up the fence to keep it out entirely, or even shoot it dead. What do they do instead? Remark how the wolf is constantly eating their sheep.

    Go ahead, start your verbal bullshitting. Just whine on … and on … and on. The vast anti-white sense of victimhood. It never gets old.

    , @Erik L
    @AnotherDad

    Jews have been great for America. The only way to arrive at your conclusion is:

    1. Begin with animus towards the Jews
    2. Complain about any aspect of the country that you can (directly or circuitously) blame on the Jews
    3. Call out the bad behavior of Jews as representative of "The Jews" (while noting that bad behavior by gentiles is just bad behavior of individuals and not reflective of "White People")
    4. Take for granted all the great contributions and/or assume that in the absence of Jews, the gentiles would have gotten around to it eventually.

    This is also how wokesters reason about generic white people

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  94. @Frau Katze
    @Jack D

    I know that and my comment was to help the crazy situation here. Some of the Men (and a few Women) of Unz will be talking about Jewish Communist plots.

    Only yesterday someone was saying that Jews control the US media (they don’t).

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mr. Anon

    Only yesterday someone was saying that Jews control the US media (they don’t).

    Are they without influence in the US media? Is that influence insignificant?

  95. @Jack D
    @tyrone

    I kid. The real spy at Los Alamos was Fuchs who was a Lutheran Aryan. It's always the one you suspect the least. Aldrich Ames. Robert Hanssen. Whitaker Chambers. Kim Philby. Real spies don't attend Communist Party meetings that are infiltrated by the FBI.

    Replies: @From Beer to Paternity, @J.Ross, @Colin Wright, @tyrone

    ‘I kid. The real spy at Los Alamos was Fuchs who was a Lutheran Aryan. It’s always the one you suspect the least. Aldrich Ames. Robert Hanssen. Whitaker Chambers. Kim Philby. Real spies don’t attend Communist Party meetings that are infiltrated by the FBI.’

    JackD reveals: not all spies have been Jews.

    • LOL: Gordo, JimDandy
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Colin Wright

    The Manhattan project was a good way to keep quote a lot of very dangerous people out in the desert together. Lol. It’s true.

    , @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Koval
    Not at Los Alamos but he worked at the Oak Ridge site. He was the one that got away, leaving for the Soviet Union in 1948.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Colin Wright

    , @res
    @Colin Wright


    JackD reveals: not all spies have been Jews.
     
    And breaking news: not all Jews are spies.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Colin Wright

    A British captain at Singapore spied for Japan, probably because he was an Irish republican.


    Patrick Stanley Vaughan Heenan (29 July 1910 – 13 February 1942) was a captain in the British Indian Army who was supposedly convicted of treason, after spying for Japan during the Battle of Malaya of World War II.[1][2]

    Heenan was executed by his wardens while in custody during the Battle of Singapore. With the defeat of the British imminent, Heenan had mocked the guards, saying he would soon be free, while they would be the prisoners. In response, British military police shot him and dumped his body into the harbour.[3]

    According to Heenan's biographer, Peter Elphick, these events were suppressed by British Commonwealth military censors.[1]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Stanley_Vaughan_Heenan

    Replies: @Jack D

  96. @Thomm
    @Pixo

    If all of the world’s people were Ashkenazi Jews, human society would be about 350 years more advanced today than it is now. Their excellence in science, entertainment, finance, law, economics, literature, and more would be able to manifest on a much larger scale. Plus, if everyone is Jewish, there are no non-Jews for them to manipulate, so they will work in unison towards the big picture.

    The technological level would be comparable to what we see in Star Trek : The Next Generation. We would have warp drive, replicators, holodecks, and an interstellar civilization by now. We would already have started spreading out across the galaxy.

    This, of course, requires the genetic component of Ashkenazi Jews. Converting WN wiggers (avg. IQ: 70) to Judaism will not suddenly add 40+ points to their respective IQs.

    Even non-Jews with Jewish names, such as Morris Seligman Dees and Whoopi Goldberg (who still retains her original legal name Caryn Johnson) became much more successful than they would have been without the Jewish name. Ms. Johnson gave it to herself, so is even smarter than Mr. Dees. Ms. Johnson is an EGOT, only the fourth woman and first black person to complete the quartet of major awards. It is safe to say her talent is not on par with previous EGOT winners like Rita Moreno.

    Hey, it is true. The WN wiggers here routinely say that if all humans where black Africans, we would still be at around 1500 BC. By that same token, if all humans were Ashkenazi Jews, we would be 350 years ahead of where we are today.

    Thanks,
    - Mordecai Velvel Rabinowitz

    Replies: @awry, @QCIC, @pyrrhus, @Redneck Farmer, @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Slim, @AndrewR

    “.. so they will work together in unison for the big picture.” How’s that usually work for Israel?

  97. @Gordo
    Sam Waterston made a far better Oppenheimer than Murphy.

    More Jewy, simple as.

    Let’s keep it real dudes, just add darkies to the ballast; executive director etcetera.

    Replies: @CalCooledge, @Hibernian, @SFG

    Arch WASP Sam Waterston? A little ironic.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppenheimer_(TV_series)

    I’ve watched Season 20, and am watching Season 18, of Law and Order. I have to endure the kicked upstairs Waterston (as DA) in return for seeing a show with Sisto/Anderson/De La Garza/Pierce (Executive ADA) that at least faintly resembles seasons 1 to 4 with Dzundza/Sorvino/Orbach/Florek/Noth/Moriarty (also Executive ADA). S. Epatha Merkeson, Florek’s replacement as LT of the Detectives, is not as bad as Waterston but is miscast. She should guest star occasionally as a school principal.

    Waterston would be believable as the AG if the United States in a Democratic administration, at least carter/Clinton and maybe Obama.

  98. @James J. O'Meara
    @Frau Katze


    These were smart men rather than powerful or privileged. Oppenheimer’s father arrived penniless and without speaking English in 1888.
     
    Unless by "powerful" or "privileged" you mean "plugged himself into an ethnic network."

    He was hired by a textile company and within a decade was an executive there, eventually becoming wealthy.[8] In 1912, the family moved to an apartment on Riverside Drive near West 88th Street, Manhattan, an area known for luxurious mansions and townhouses.[6] Their art collection included works by Pablo Picasso, Édouard Vuillard, and Vincent van Gogh.
     
    As the typical "textile executive" does.

    That's going to be my new euphemism: "Uh oh, looks like a lot of textile executives have moved in."

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Nineteenth century New England textile barons had names like Lowell, as in Lowell MA, and also as in “Boston is a fine old town in the land of Cod, where the Lowells speak only to the Cabots, and the Cabots speak only to God.

  99. @pyrrhus
    @Thomm

    Factual problem...until the 20th century, Jews contributed virtually nothing to science...

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @mc23

    And then they contributed a lot.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    “And then they contributed a lot.”

    Probably the most important contribution is “anti-whiteness” (however it is defined), right? At least that is what you casually imply.

    Replies: @awry

    , @Sir Didymus
    @Steve Sailer

    If you can call guys like Jordan Belfort, Bernie Madoff and Sam Bankman-Fried contributors.

  100. @J.Ross
    OT -- I guess Steve's comment on the State of the Union, let alone the completely dilatory primaries, was his lack of comment. My pre-taping prediction was wrong (I forgot about the wake-up drug J. Mason of Ecuadorial fame had described earlier) but I largely agree. I'd like to hear what any retired lawyers whose last name starts with the fourth letter of the alphabet thought about it, but maybe I can search that.
    Even with Mason's Elixir he was recognizable, though.
    HE FEELS THE POLITICAL WIND, STEVE. HE FEELS THE POLITICAL WIND AT HIS BACK. BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT HIM, IT'S ABOUT ME WINNING, IT'S NOT WHO WINS. STEVE.
    In football news, how will the University of South Carolina cope with the loss of their coach, Lincoln Riley?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar

    I’m terribly sorry I missed the State of the Union address.

    Well, actually, no, I’m not. I’m sorry about all the ones I’ve watched over the years.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Mr Mox
    @Steve Sailer

    The 2023 address was quite funny, though... "The owls went out the door behind us, I think"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz19y9a9bsQ

    , @Wokechoke
    @Steve Sailer

    Any chance of a Dune 2 review?

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    , @J.Ross
    @Steve Sailer

    Derb is right that it should be a letter and not a campaign stumping. But this was a train wreck.

    Replies: @res

    , @Renard
    @Steve Sailer

    That's how I feel about the Academy Awards broadcast. And the State of the Union address.

  101. @Anon
    @AnotherDad

    "Blacks–like Jews–may not find our “diverse” future quite to their liking."
    .
    I live in Southern California and can attest the the ascendant asians, mexicans etc. really don't give ashit about bLack grievance and whining. Only white liberals are weak enough to be manipulated by this group.

    Replies: @Mark G., @Currahee

    The Asian and Hispanic immigrants are certainly an improvement over our native Blacks. They haven’t done much to push the country to the right, though.

    Asians come from a culture that traditionally did not place much value on freedom and individual rights. They, along with Hispanics, might support a future socially conservative Republican presidential candidate. It is unlikely they will support a candidate that believes in the limited government principles most Americans believed in during earlier generations. We are not going back to someone like Coolidge or even Eisenhower.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Mark G.


    The Asian and Hispanic immigrants are certainly an improvement over our native Blacks.
     
    Check out the wretched refuse pouring across the Rio Grande , a lot of Africans and Haitians and who ever thought Haiti could become even more of a hell=hole ,so expect them here soon. What are these people going to assimilate too , I think we know ,the American negro.
  102. Anonymous[244] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm
    @Pixo

    If all of the world’s people were Ashkenazi Jews, human society would be about 350 years more advanced today than it is now. Their excellence in science, entertainment, finance, law, economics, literature, and more would be able to manifest on a much larger scale. Plus, if everyone is Jewish, there are no non-Jews for them to manipulate, so they will work in unison towards the big picture.

    The technological level would be comparable to what we see in Star Trek : The Next Generation. We would have warp drive, replicators, holodecks, and an interstellar civilization by now. We would already have started spreading out across the galaxy.

    This, of course, requires the genetic component of Ashkenazi Jews. Converting WN wiggers (avg. IQ: 70) to Judaism will not suddenly add 40+ points to their respective IQs.

    Even non-Jews with Jewish names, such as Morris Seligman Dees and Whoopi Goldberg (who still retains her original legal name Caryn Johnson) became much more successful than they would have been without the Jewish name. Ms. Johnson gave it to herself, so is even smarter than Mr. Dees. Ms. Johnson is an EGOT, only the fourth woman and first black person to complete the quartet of major awards. It is safe to say her talent is not on par with previous EGOT winners like Rita Moreno.

    Hey, it is true. The WN wiggers here routinely say that if all humans where black Africans, we would still be at around 1500 BC. By that same token, if all humans were Ashkenazi Jews, we would be 350 years ahead of where we are today.

    Thanks,
    - Mordecai Velvel Rabinowitz

    Replies: @awry, @QCIC, @pyrrhus, @Redneck Farmer, @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Slim, @AndrewR

    ‘Thomm’ is a subcon.

  103. @Jack D
    @tyrone

    I kid. The real spy at Los Alamos was Fuchs who was a Lutheran Aryan. It's always the one you suspect the least. Aldrich Ames. Robert Hanssen. Whitaker Chambers. Kim Philby. Real spies don't attend Communist Party meetings that are infiltrated by the FBI.

    Replies: @From Beer to Paternity, @J.Ross, @Colin Wright, @tyrone

    The real spy

    Don’t forget the Rosenbergs ……..guilty as hell.

    a Lutheran Aryan

    Who even uses that word “ayran ” ,unless you are talking about yummy fermented milk products from Central Asia.

  104. @Mark G.
    @Anon

    The Asian and Hispanic immigrants are certainly an improvement over our native Blacks. They haven't done much to push the country to the right, though.

    Asians come from a culture that traditionally did not place much value on freedom and individual rights. They, along with Hispanics, might support a future socially conservative Republican presidential candidate. It is unlikely they will support a candidate that believes in the limited government principles most Americans believed in during earlier generations. We are not going back to someone like Coolidge or even Eisenhower.

    Replies: @tyrone

    The Asian and Hispanic immigrants are certainly an improvement over our native Blacks.

    Check out the wretched refuse pouring across the Rio Grande , a lot of Africans and Haitians and who ever thought Haiti could become even more of a hell=hole ,so expect them here soon. What are these people going to assimilate too , I think we know ,the American negro.

  105. Censorship today in Hollywood is the inverse of traditional censorship of the Hays Code variety.
    Traditional censorship = removing content.
    Modern censorship = adding content.
    This modern form of censorship is, in my view, far more egregious in its violation of artistic integrity. That’s no accident: it doesn’t care about artistic integrity and in fact in its sophistication is designed to thwart attempts to bypass the censor.

  106. @Steve Sailer
    @J.Ross

    I'm terribly sorry I missed the State of the Union address.

    Well, actually, no, I'm not. I'm sorry about all the ones I've watched over the years.

    Replies: @Mr Mox, @Wokechoke, @J.Ross, @Renard

    The 2023 address was quite funny, though… “The owls went out the door behind us, I think”

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  107. anonymous[232] • Disclaimer says:

    pyrhhus: “Factual problem…until the 20th century, Jews contributed virtually nothing to science…”

    Sailer: “And then they contributed a lot.”

    Well, this depends on what your definition of “contribute” is. Are these “contributions” that would have occurred regardless of the presence of Jews – and perhaps even faster without them? For example, there’s the chauvinist assertion above by Thomm that “If all of the world’s people were Ashkenazi Jews, human society would be about 350 years more advanced today than it is now.”

    [MORE]

    This is an unfalsifiable claim and impossible to know for certain either way – whether Jews have in fact on net sped things up or retarded them – because we don’t live in this hypothetical counterfactual universe.

    For example, let’s look at another group: Chinese people. If you look at Nobel Prizes in the hard sciences that have been won by people of Chinese descent who did their prize-winning work primarily in the diaspora (mostly the U.S.) there’s a total of 9 (7 in Physics and 2 in Chemistry) whereas if you look at Nobel Prizes given to Chinese who did their work primarily in Mainland China there’s only 1 (Tu Youyou for Physiology or Medicine).[1]

    Considering that the Mainland Chinese population is at least thirty times larger than the diaspora Chinese population, diaspora Chinese are some 270 times more likely to win Nobel prizes than are Mainland Chinese. If you just compare Chinese Americans to the Mainland Chinese they are approximately 1,500 times more likely per capita to win a Nobel.

    There seems to be something about American universities themselves as institutions which boosts the chances of winning a Nobel Prize by at least several hundred for people of Chinese descent.

    For another example, take the Brahmin of India. They are probably responsible for the absolute majority of the intellectual “contributions” of the Indian subcontinent despite only being around 4 or 5 percent of its population. Maybe this is because they are so genetically brilliant or perhaps it’s because they benefit from a caste system which, while good for the Brahmins themselves (and perhaps good for bragging rights and reputational capital) this record of “contribution” does not seem to redound to the benefit of the rest of India’s population. India suffers from a debilitating caste system the consequences of which are seen in their infamous lack of social trust society, backwards institutions and poor economy.[2] Without the caste system the performance of the low-caste Indians would likely rise to roughly meet that of the high-castes, and their society would, on the whole, benefit from the improved social capital of that arrangement.

    Another notable point about India’s science Nobel winners is that almost all of the winners are deeply affiliated with Western institutions, often receiving their education in the West educated and typically doing their award-winning work while working within American or British universities/institutions.

    Are Jewish “contributions” to science, culture, economy and Nobels similarly a consequence not of their inherent genetic superiority but of their affiliation with Western institutions in which they’ve embedded themselves? Are their “contributions,” similar to the Brahmin, a consequence of privileges which they’ve received and nepotism which they practice?

    Notably, between 1901 and 1939 Eastern Europe’s huge population of more than seven million Jews won a grand total of 1 science Nobel (Elie Metchnikoff in Russia/Ukraine for Medicine). On the other hand, if you count Jewish Nobels won in Western Europe and the United States in the same years you find: 6 in Austria-Germany (for Medicine), 4 in Germany (for Chemistry), 1 in France for Chemistry, and 6 in Germany/Denmark/France/USA for Physics, totaling to 17.

    Thus, despite Eastern Europe having a much larger population of Jews it was in wealthy and high-trust Western Europe, with a total of only around 1 million Jews, where virtually all of the Jewish Nobel Prizes were won. With the one exception of Albert Michelson who won his Nobel in America – all of the others were in Western Europe and the absolute majority of those by Germany’s comparatively tiny Jewish community of only several hundred thousand.

    That is, there was something specifically about Western European universities, and particularly German universities, which proved a very fertile ground for scientific discovery. Germany’s Jews, despite being a tiny (roughly 1%) minority of the German population, managed to claim between 24% and 30.6% (8.625 to 11, depending on how you count) of German’s science Nobels between 1901 and 1939.[3]

    Indeed, just being a Jew who lived in Germany instead of Eastern Europe in these years, your odds of winning a Nobel would increase from (conservatively) one in seven million to ~10 in five hundred thousand a 140x increase in one’s odds at a Nobel. It’s thus unsurprising that Jews were clamoring to get into Germany then just as 3rd-worlders are clamoring to get into Europe and America today.

    Was this due to Jewish net contributions to German society or was it due to something else – like a parasitic relationship with Germany’s elite (and publicly funded) universities and research institutions, which the Jews had managed to cram themselves into.

    Are the Jews more like hostile elite and parasitic Brahmins of India or are their contributions genuinely positive sum?

    If Jews were really a fount of genius why does their genius only show itself when embedded within wealthy high-trust Western institutions? Why didn’t they make Poland and Ukraine, where they lived in large numbers, the Nobel-winning super-stars of Europe?

    My strong impression is that, as with the Chinese and Indians, the Jews do very well when embedded within high-trust Western institutions because it’s the institutions themselves that are responsible for the discoveries. If it were solely white Christians living within homogeneous white Christian states left to their own devices then these discoveries would be made roughly in the same time frame – if not, in all probability, faster – without the burden of a parasitic caste of nepotists on top of them, which only serves to make Europe and the United States more like a backwards caste-based society, like India.

    Whites don’t need Asian, Jews or Hindus. Asians, Jews and Hindus need whites. Whites would be vastly better off without you.

    I could go into far more detail but this comment is already very long.

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_Nobel_laureates

    [2] According to my count 6/9 of India’s Nobel Prize winners were won by Brahmins, 2/9 by other elite castes and only one (V. S. Naipaul for literature.

    [3]
    German Jewish Prizes 1901-1939:
    4 in Chemistry: Baeyer (half), Wallach (half), Willstatter, Haber
    4 in Medicine: Ehrlich, Meyerhof, Warburg (half), Loewi
    3 in Physics: Einstein, Franck, Gustav Hertz (1/8th)

    Depending on if you count factional Jews as full Jews you get 11/36 or 30.6% or if you add up the fractions you get 8.625/36 or 24%.

    • Replies: @Renard
    @anonymous

    Thanks for the number crunching. If we had even remotely honest media none of this would surprise anyone, much less constitute apostasy.

  108. Anon[548] • Disclaimer says:
    @IHTG

    “Oppenheimer” still easily met the diversity requirements for Best Picture.
     
    How? You ought to have quoted that part.

    Replies: @40 Lashes Less One, @Currahee, @Anon, @jb

    “Oppenheimer” still easily met the diversity requirements for Best Picture.

    How? You ought to have quoted that part.

    This is every concrete “loophole” used by “Oppenheimer” mentioned in the article:

    “Oppenheimer” still easily met the diversity requirements for Best Picture.

    It cleared one standard for offscreen hiring because nearly a dozen women held senior positions on the crew, including costume designer, set designer, editor and head hairstylist. At least one senior role was filled by someone from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group: the head of makeup, Luisa Abel, who is Hispanic.

    Even without those hiring decisions, “Oppenheimer” would have qualified. That is because its studio, Universal, has created in-house programs, in-career training and audience development that help satisfy the rules for almost every picture it makes.

    Since 2021, Universal has operated an extensive crew training program for underrepresented individuals. The majority of Universal movies participate, and “Oppenheimer” was no exception.

    Universal, more so than some other studios, also has a diverse marketing and distribution team, including Dwight Caines, the studio’s president of domestic marketing, who is Black. (All of his counterparts at other major studios are white.)

    • Thanks: Bardon Kaldian
  109. @Thomm
    @Pixo

    If all of the world’s people were Ashkenazi Jews, human society would be about 350 years more advanced today than it is now. Their excellence in science, entertainment, finance, law, economics, literature, and more would be able to manifest on a much larger scale. Plus, if everyone is Jewish, there are no non-Jews for them to manipulate, so they will work in unison towards the big picture.

    The technological level would be comparable to what we see in Star Trek : The Next Generation. We would have warp drive, replicators, holodecks, and an interstellar civilization by now. We would already have started spreading out across the galaxy.

    This, of course, requires the genetic component of Ashkenazi Jews. Converting WN wiggers (avg. IQ: 70) to Judaism will not suddenly add 40+ points to their respective IQs.

    Even non-Jews with Jewish names, such as Morris Seligman Dees and Whoopi Goldberg (who still retains her original legal name Caryn Johnson) became much more successful than they would have been without the Jewish name. Ms. Johnson gave it to herself, so is even smarter than Mr. Dees. Ms. Johnson is an EGOT, only the fourth woman and first black person to complete the quartet of major awards. It is safe to say her talent is not on par with previous EGOT winners like Rita Moreno.

    Hey, it is true. The WN wiggers here routinely say that if all humans where black Africans, we would still be at around 1500 BC. By that same token, if all humans were Ashkenazi Jews, we would be 350 years ahead of where we are today.

    Thanks,
    - Mordecai Velvel Rabinowitz

    Replies: @awry, @QCIC, @pyrrhus, @Redneck Farmer, @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Slim, @AndrewR

    Plus, if everyone is Jewish, there are no non-Jews for them to manipulate, so they will work in unison towards the big picture.

    The technological level would be comparable to what we see in Star Trek : The Next Generation. We would have warp drive, replicators, holodecks, and an interstellar civilization by now. We would already have started spreading out across the galaxy. [bold added]

    You’ve often been accused of being a subcon, but it seems you’ve (accidentally?) come out as a Jew. Interesting.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    You’ve often been accused of being a subcon, but it seems you’ve (accidentally?) come out as a Jew. Interesting.
     
    "Thomm" probably wishes he were Jewish and might be trying to fool some extremely gullible people in that regard, but it's almost 100% certain that he's a Hindu, and a particularly dim-witted and ignorant one, who happens to be an absolutely pathological liar.

    Since he's such an incompetent pathological liar, he's very easy to detect, as I explained in this comment from a year or two ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/covid-and-the-political-bankruptcy-of-the-alternative-media/?showcomments#comment-5543598

    He’s left around 3,000 comments here, and it’s best to start reading them from the beginning:

    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=thomm&CommentOrder=ASC

    He starts off crudely boasting to everyone that Indian immigrants are the smartest, most successful people in America. So naturally enough, some of the other commenters say he’s probably an Indian immigrant. But given his tremendous personal dishonesty, he fiercely denies it, and begins pretending he’s a native-born white American. However, he obviously knows almost nothing about American society or history, so he says the most ridiculous things, presumably nonsense he picked up from Bollywood movies or random websites. For example:

    As I often point out, it was true until very recently that Italians, Poles, Jews, and even Irish were not considered white (and WNs still don’t consider them white, based on comments in this very thread). See my comment #108.
     
    I think he claims that Americans didn’t consider Polish or Irish people “white” until around 1950 or so.

    If I tried to pretend that I was a Hindu from India, I’m sure I’d make just as big a fool of myself, which is why I wouldn’t do such a thing. Some Indian immigrants are smart, but definitely not “Thomm”…

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright, @Houston 1992, @Jenner Ickham Errican

  110. Anon[548] • Disclaimer says:

    Nolan could have flipped his middle finger at the requirements by writing long speaking parts for Oppenheimer’s parents and casting a black man and a trans woman, paid them and put them in the credits, but leaving their scenes on the cutting room floor. The footage could be a special feature on the Blu-ray, making it a must-see. These scenes could be directed by a Hispanic lesbian third unit director using an iPhone.

    And Oppenheimer could have maintained historicity by having characters talking to each other while one is getting a shoe shine.

    Although I haven’t seen the movie, the book American Prometheus discusses the on-site whorehouse at Los Alamos. They were probably all white women, but it wouldn’t be much of a change to make them “diverse” in the movie (while keeping the young physicist who defended the presence of the prostitutes as a moral necessity Jewish, as he was in real life).

  111. Easy to answer the clickbait title: the Powerful Men are first, Not White, but at the same time American, that made it MAGA for a while.

  112. Some people don’t seem to get it when you’re being faintly sarcastic Steve.

    • Agree: New Dealer
  113. @SFG
    @Muggles

    Barbie was successful because lots and lots and lots of girls played with Barbies growing up. Mattel is looking into a Rock 'em-Sock 'em Robots movie, for crying out loud. People are nostalgic, they like to remember their childhood, and Hollywood is really good at movies aimed at children or people remembering being children. How many Transformers movies did they make? (Anyone here who says 'none worth mentioning after 1986', I hear you and salute the iron birds of fortune, but from a money point of view they did quite well.)

    I've had a policy of not seeing Hollywood movies unless they have a white male protagonist. Let Hollywood's diversity bite them in the wallet. So I did see Oppenheimer, and Wonka, though sadly I missed Top Gun: Maverick. I'm told European series still employ white people; MHz has a few of those. Liberals have been doing 'conscious consumption' for a while; no reason you can't steal a few of the enemy's tools. I mean, Bud Light blinked.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    though sadly I missed Top Gun: Maverick.

    Top Gun: Maverick was an estrogen-soaked rehash of the oldest and lamest themes in moviemaking. It was absolutely awful. If you can make it through the first 10 minutes and watch Tom Cruise safely “eject” from an experimental aircraft that disintegrates while pushing Mach 11, you’ll have an idea of how accurate the film is with respect to the physics of aviation. If you then watch him just casually steal an F/A-18 Hornet and gatecrash the test range without anybody being the wiser, you’ll know how accurate it was with respect to military practices. And this is all just filler for its extremely thin human-interest story.

    TGM was like watching a woman’s idea of what goes on at “airplane camp,” where they imagine the fighter pilots behave no differently than the bickering girls they work with at Target.

    • LOL: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Shale boi
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I tried watching it and stopped after the first few minutes. It's a small thing, but seeing him drive onto base, on a motorcycle sans helmet, sans safety vest just showed me how silly it was going to be. Anybody who's actually served knows that you had to have a helmet even in the 80s and in the early 90s they required the safety vest and safety boots to come on base with a motorcycle. And no...it doesn't matter if you are an O-6. Even a badass O-6. Seems minor, but I knew the thing would just be one orgy of music video silliness, after that little bit. So I turned it off.

    P.s. Had an F-14/F-18 pilot as a roommate in San Diego. And went to the Miramar O-club and all that. (It was OK...cheap booze and occasionally some women...but not as crazy as right after TOpGun came out...we did better in PB/MB actually or having "HammerEx" parties after WestPac that somehow attracted minor Hollywood people down...cameraladies are the wildest.) Best story my roomie told was about "Bug"Roach talking him down onto the deck on a really shitty weather day when they kept sending him around because of the deck being fouled, etc. and then he had to tank...which itself was stressful knowing that he really needed the juice. Told the story to another aviator and he instantly knew who I meant when I said "uh, some insect name LSO":

    https://theaviationist.com/2021/01/07/cdr-john-bug-roach-a-legendary-fighter-pilot-and-probably-the-greatest-lso-landing-signal-officer-ever/

    P.s.s. I did do three weeks for an exercise on the Nimitz though and it really does look like a movie, with the flame coming out of the jets and all. Or I guess the movies look like what it is.

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Intelligent Dasein


    It was absolutely awful.
     
    You didn’t like the part where they showed the highway to the danger zone?
    , @anonymous
    @Intelligent Dasein


    TGM was like watching a woman’s idea of what goes on at “airplane camp,” where they imagine the fighter pilots behave no differently than the bickering girls they work with at Target.
     
    One out of five naval aviators is female. All the air crew in the Navy flyover at the Superbowl (four F/A-18s and an F-35) were women.

    https://i.imgur.com/jlVmd3y.jpg

    Above, Commander Rebecca Calder, 2004 graduate of Navy Fighter Weapons School (AKA TopGun), combat veteran of Operations Enduring Freedom, Southern Watch and Iraqi Freedom, flying the F/A-18, accrued some 2,500 flight hours and 421 carrier traps in her career.
    How about you?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    , @SFG
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Honestly? It’s a Hollywood movie. I don’t expect realism on that sort of thing. If they accidentally made one of the dumb, stupid action movies they used to, that’s good enough for me.

  114. @James J. O'Meara
    @Jack D


    Groves had to make a devil’s bargain. He could either let a bunch of Jews and Communists and Jewish Communists and Communist Jews and Communist Jew Commies with funny foreign accents work on the bomb or he could not have a bomb (at least not before the war was over).
     
    Or, he could have asked himself why these people in particular were the only ones demanding a bomb. After he answered that question, he could then perhaps re-evaluate whether he was on the wrong side (as Patton later concluded).

    Replies: @Jack D, @SFG, @Wokechoke, @IHTG

    That’s the wrinkle in the story. These Jews wanted to incinerate Berlin not Japanese cities.

  115. @Colin Wright
    @Jack D


    'I kid. The real spy at Los Alamos was Fuchs who was a Lutheran Aryan. It’s always the one you suspect the least. Aldrich Ames. Robert Hanssen. Whitaker Chambers. Kim Philby. Real spies don’t attend Communist Party meetings that are infiltrated by the FBI.'
     
    JackD reveals: not all spies have been Jews.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Wielgus, @res, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    The Manhattan project was a good way to keep quote a lot of very dangerous people out in the desert together. Lol. It’s true.

  116. @Steve Sailer
    @J.Ross

    I'm terribly sorry I missed the State of the Union address.

    Well, actually, no, I'm not. I'm sorry about all the ones I've watched over the years.

    Replies: @Mr Mox, @Wokechoke, @J.Ross, @Renard

    Any chance of a Dune 2 review?

    • Agree: MEH 0910
    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Wokechoke

    Steve's 2021 Dune: Part One review:

    https://www.takimag.com/article/dune-old-spice-in-a-new-age/
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/my-review-of-dune/

  117. @awry
    @Thomm

    Bullshit. The world would be a big Ukrainian shtetl, with Kosher butchers, fiddlers on the roof, lewd housewives, milk boys etc.
    The smartest jids would hone their skills with Talmudic hair-splitting debates.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @SFG

    The thing I would argue is once the whole society is like that you would tend to see selection for more ‘goyish’ personality types, if only because there is an evolutionary niche that opens up. The Israelis are considerably more macho than diaspora Jews, and most people are adaptable enough to adjust to situations.

    Probably after a few hundred years things would be similar to the way they actually turned out as the population adapted to the environment. I guess you might have a slightly higher rate of technical progress due to the higher baseline IQ, but which way that would wind up is anyone’s guess. You might just get nuclear war as everyone figures out the Bomb earlier. It would ultimately depend on when you replaced the world with Ashkenazi Jews, as the higher IQ didn’t evolve until the Middle Ages-ancient Israel wasn’t a particularly unique Levantine kingdom.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @SFG


    The Israelis are considerably more macho than diaspora Jews...
     
    Who, at least in America, are considerably more "macho" than the cousins they left in Europe. At least if the Schumers and Koches and Bloombergs are any indication. (Or is that just a New York thing? (And LA Clippers owners.))

    Replies: @J.Ross

  118. @Gordo
    Sam Waterston made a far better Oppenheimer than Murphy.

    More Jewy, simple as.

    Let’s keep it real dudes, just add darkies to the ballast; executive director etcetera.

    Replies: @CalCooledge, @Hibernian, @SFG

    That basically seems to be what they’re doing in many cases according to the article.

  119. @Steve Sailer
    @J.Ross

    I'm terribly sorry I missed the State of the Union address.

    Well, actually, no, I'm not. I'm sorry about all the ones I've watched over the years.

    Replies: @Mr Mox, @Wokechoke, @J.Ross, @Renard

    Derb is right that it should be a letter and not a campaign stumping. But this was a train wreck.

    • Replies: @res
    @J.Ross


    Derb is right that it should be a letter and not a campaign stumping. But this was a train wreck.
     
    As it was for over a century.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_the_Union#History

    George Washington delivered the first regular annual message before a joint session of Congress on January 8, 1790, in New York City, then the provisional U.S. capital. In 1801, Thomas Jefferson discontinued the practice of delivering the address in person, regarding it as too monarchical (similar to the Speech from the Throne). Instead, the address was written and then sent to Congress to be read by a clerk until 1913 when Woodrow Wilson re-established the practice despite some initial controversy, and an in-person address to Congress has been delivered nearly every year since. However, there have been exceptions to this rule, with some messages being given solely in writing, and others given both in writing and orally (either in a speech to Congress or through broadcast media).[10] The last president to give a written message without a spoken address was Jimmy Carter in 1981, days before his term ended after his defeat by Ronald Reagan.[10]
     
    P.S. Just how many bad ideas did Woodrow Wilson originate? More and more his election looks like the crucial event leading to The Current Year. Indirectly attributable to TR and his 1912 run as a progressive (hmm, interesting juxtaposition there).

    Replies: @J.Ross, @nebulafox, @nebulafox

  120. anonymous[179] • Disclaimer says:
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Placing things in perspective--

    1. German nuclear program had a budget of $2 million

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_program_during_World_War_II

    2. Japanese nuclear program had a budget of just over $4 million. (from jp version of wiki article)

    3. Manhanttan project had a budget of $2 billion (1945, ~US$26 billion in 2022)

    Japan went to war in China largely to prevent Soviet communist infiltration-- communist spies later handed nuclear secrets to Communist China


    The Chinese nuclear program was aided by its considerable access to Western atomic secrets. For example, China may have benefited from the defection of American physicist Joan Hinton in 1948 (Reed and Stillman 87). Hinton had worked on the “Fat Man” plutonium implosion bomb at Los Alamos and witnessed the Trinity Test.
     

    Despite Mao’s proclamation of scientific independence, however, Qian Sanqiang traveled to East Germany in July 1959 to meet with former Manhattan Project physicist—and Soviet spy—Klaus Fuchs.

    Fuchs and Qian spent the summer of 1959 going over detailed designs of the “Fat Man” plutonium implosion bomb.
     

    https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/history/chinese-nuclear-program/

    Replies: @anonymous, @Colin Wright

    Joan Hinton emigrated to China in 1948 and started working on a dairy farm in Inner Mongolia. She was briefly brought to Beijing in 1952 for the peace conference during the middle of the Korean War. Later on during the 1950s she moved to a dairy farm near Xian. In total she spent 60 years working on dairy farms in China. She was not at all involved in the Chinese nuclear program. As a young scientific assistant at 23 at Los Alamos in 1944, she was probably way too junior to know much.

    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @anonymous

    Thanks. Here she is with her husband in CCP base Yan'an in 1949 and later on the farm

    https://imagepphcloud.thepaper.cn/pph/image/181/209/932.png

    https://imagepphcloud.thepaper.cn/pph/image/181/211/364.png

    Her son, Fred Engst or 阳和平 Yáng Hépíng became a professor in China. He has a large following on Bilibili where he takes mostly pro-CCP positions.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h1Gm85biBs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQTPdb3cwRQ

    The American commies that went over to side with Chicoms were mainly WASP, not Jewish. The full list is on the ch version of this page.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_friends_of_the_Chinese_people

    Replies: @anonymous

  121. anonymous[179] • Disclaimer says:

    I do wish the movie featured Joan Hinton. She saw the Trinity test after sneaking out on her motorcycle and was moved by the devastation caused by use of the bombs to leave the US.

    Joan Hinton, now 33, was an attractive blonde prep-school girl, interested in horses and sports. At the University of Chicago she became a physicist. She was a junior scientific assistant at Los Alamos when the first atomic bomb was exploded; she and her mother spent happy weeks together in the rough outdoors of Dr. Robert Oppenheimer’s Perro Caliente ranch, although Oppenheimer cabled last week that he did not know them well. By her own account, “something started to stir” in Joan Hinton when the first A-bombs were dropped. “Hiroshima,” she scribbled in a frenzied letter, “150,000 lives. One, two, three, four . . . one hundred and fifty thousand . . . Were we to blame?” Most atomic scientists, far closer to the bomb than Joan Hinton, have struggled with this sense of guilt. Joan Hinton’s answer was to abandon her profession and her country.

    In 1948, she forsook her laboratory and fled to the Chinese Communists. For a while she made four-wheeled carts in an iron factory in the mountains of Shensi; soon she was attending a Communist “peace conference” that charged the U.S. with germ warfare. In a letter published in People’s China, she wrote: “The Chinese with their bare hands are building up a new nation; while the Americans . . . are preparing to destroy mankind.”

    https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,936255-2,00.html

  122. OT, but here’s a true believer who bemoans the shortage of black woman physicists.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023/oct/01/why-are-they-not-on-wikipedia-dr-jess-wades-mission-for-recognition-for-unsung-scientists

    “a recent parliamentary report found that only 8% of undergraduates, 1.4% of lecturers and postgraduates, and 0.4% of science professors living in the UK are Black.

    She herself is a white woman physicist.

    I’ve had a very privileged upbringing and I came through life thinking no one had barriers,” Wade tells me. She is the daughter of two doctors, she grew up in the leafy north London suburb of Hampstead and attended South Hampstead High School, a selective private school for girls.I’m not an idiot – I knew racism and sexism existed. But I didn’t think young people in the UK faced barriers studying subjects. And then I got to university at Imperial and everyone was ferociously bright, but very privileged. A lot of students went to private school and in my subject, physics, it was extraordinarily white and extraordinarily dominated by men.” She got quite a shock when she first walked into her department. “It’s not subtle. You notice it straight away – there’s 250 people in a year group and 20% are women and there’s one Black person.”

    Of course her biggest privilege came at conception, not upbringing, when two doctors mated to produce her.

    I wonder if she ever thinks about either

    a) why so many Jews back in the day thrived in physics (and other cognitively demanding subjects) despite often coming from very poor homes?

    b) whether there’s any correlation between “very privileged” and “ferociously bright”? I sent children to both state and private schools, and I think there’s a link, especially now selective state grammar schools don’t exist in large parts of the UK.

    I also wonder if she’s spent much time in the blacker parts of London? Nothing like learning by experience. Perhaps all the black people she’s met are university types.

  123. @James J. O'Meara
    @Jack D


    Groves had to make a devil’s bargain. He could either let a bunch of Jews and Communists and Jewish Communists and Communist Jews and Communist Jew Commies with funny foreign accents work on the bomb or he could not have a bomb (at least not before the war was over).
     
    Or, he could have asked himself why these people in particular were the only ones demanding a bomb. After he answered that question, he could then perhaps re-evaluate whether he was on the wrong side (as Patton later concluded).

    Replies: @Jack D, @SFG, @Wokechoke, @IHTG

    One could argue that Groves got the better of those Communist Jews since the bomb ended up being used exclusively on non-whites.

  124. Steve,

    Since the discussion of Oppenheimer and Christopher Nolan has descended into a discussion of Jews, you should comment on Adam Schiff winning the real election to be the next Senator from California. Years ago, there was a joke that the great replacement was meant to create a situation where blacks and Hispanics are voting for Jews in a one party state. It seems that California is one of thew few places where that is still true.

  125. @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon

    If you go by nominal GDP, Russia is still #11, tied with Mexico. Not very impressive compared to the GDP of NATO .

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    But the GDP of the entire EU can’t produce as many 155mm shells as North Korea, which doesn’t even have a recorded GDP!

    When you’re comparing military potential, you can pretty much ignore (tho not entirely) the service economy. It’s manufacturing and production that’s most important.

    GDP has some weird features in the UK. My employer pays me £x a year, so I tend to assume I’m adding £x + y% to their earnings, or why am I there?

    But I paid for my house maybe 10 years ago, it’s quite big and would cost me maybe £2,500 a month to rent. I was paying nowhere near that much on the mortgage, but house inflation’s been so huge I could never afford the place now.

    Yet just by living in my house, I’m adding £30,000 annually to British GDP.

    https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2023/02/14/10-or-gdp-is-made-up-it-simply-does-not-exist-in-the-real-world/

    Let’s step into fantasy and assume a new administration stopped all new immigration – the Palestinian and Chinese doctors, the Polish and Romanian drivers, they can sray, but NO MAS!

    Rents halve within 2 years as a consequence, as some people go home, some emigrate. With a must-have like housing, it doesn’t take much of either shortage or surplus to swing rental prices wildly.

    First of all, the Guardian would bemoan the evil racism of the Brits.

    But secondly, I and all the millions 0f houseowners, would only pay half as much imaginary “imputed rent”. GDP would drop.

    And the Guardian would say it’s because of the lack of new immigrants! Which it is, but only because they drive up rents!

    • Thanks: Renard
  126. @Jack D
    @Frau Katze

    Julius (aka J. Robert) himself grew up in privilege. The movie raises this as a point of friction between himself and Lewis Strauss, who was himself a self-made man. Strauss was intimidated and intellectually threatened by the well educated and snooty, privileged Oppenheimer and this led in part to Strauss trying to cut Oppenheimer down a notch.

    von Neumann also had a very privileged background. However, some of the scientists (e.g. Feynman) grew up in very modest circumstances.

    But yes, in general the upward mobility of the Jews was remarkable. I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did. I think it's hilarious/sad when they interview some illegal alien who has been here for 20 years and the interview is in Spanish because in 20 years said alien hasn't learned two words of Ingles.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad, @Art Deco, @kaganovitch

    How was Oppenheimer privileged? In what venue could his old man put in a fix for him?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    "Privileged" is another way of saying rich. I gather that the Oppenheimers were quite wealthy. His father did really really well during WWI, going from just prosperous to "enough money to buy important paintings" money.

    My wife's mother was modestly middle class but growing up she had a wealthy aunt (although not Oppenheimer rich). The aunt had a house in Atlantic City (at that time not a slum) and in that house there was an indoor swimming pool, which made an impression. Her husband had had a contract with the US Army to make puttees - those things that WWI soldiers wore wrapped around their lower legs. The Army needed a LOT of puttees during the war . Maybe before the war, 100 dozen would have been a big order for him but now the Army was asking for 100,000 ASAP.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @J.Ross
    @Art Deco

    Physics, of course. Oppenheimer actually was terrible at math and chemistry, but, like ya do, the old man put in a word, and, Jack is a d'oh-nut.

  127. @Jack D
    @Frau Katze

    Definitely they were not all Jewish but there were a lot of them, especially considering that Jews were 2 or 3% of the US population. Fermi was not Jewish but his wife was and this was why they left Italy.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Art Deco

    About 3.5% in 1940.

  128. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Muggles

    "If the Manhattan Project was staffed by mainly females and non Whites, we’ d all be speaking Japanese by now."

    Be fair. The US, Russia and the British Empire (as was) were, in Churchill's words "twice or even thrice the strength of our antagonists. Hitler's fate was sealed. Mussolini's fate was sealed. As for the Japanese, they would be ground to powder". And that was when the bomb was still only a theory.

    But an awful lot of Americans, and perhaps Australians and Brits, would have died fighting their way across the Japanese home islands.

    Replies: @BB753, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Churchill was bluffing. The British empire was already a shadow of what it used to be, and no match on its own against Germany or Japan. Even the US was not ready, in the early stages in the war, to fight Germany. That is why the USSR did most of the heavy lifting in the European front.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @BB753

    Churchill said that after Pearl Harbour, when he realised that the USA, Brit Empire, plus Russia, fighting together for their lives, were 2 or 3 times stronger - in economic terms and in population terms.

    British Empire in 1941 was actually nearly as large as it had ever been.

    "How the war might end I did not know, nor did I at this moment care... we might not even have to die as individuals...I slept the sleep of the saved and thankful".

    Replies: @BB753

  129. @dux.ie
    https://twitter.com/dux_ie/status/1766294975350989058

    Replies: @BB753

    Oppenheimer was secretly a Chinese commie spy, lol!

  130. @Jack D
    @SFG

    Add Groves to the list of goyim who just fell off the turnip truck. WNs have no respect for white people because they think that they are all like their Uncle Cletus and Cousin Billy Bob, always gettin' tricked.

    Gen. Leslie Groves (MIT & West Point) was not that easy to trick. Nowadays white people have sadly declined and you have idiots like Joe Biden in high office. When people here say that the Jews have tricked him they might even be right.

    But in those days Jews had the utmost respect for educated white people and looked upon them as their role models. The Jews were newcomers and didn't know what was what but the great WASPs clearly had their shit together and were worthy of emulation. Oppenheimer considered Bohr to be a father figure. Even the Jewish socialists greatly admired the great WASP socialist Eugene V. Debs. The Yiddish radio station in NY had the call sign WEVD in his honor.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    If I’m not mistaken, Debs family was Alsatian.
    ==
    About Biden, have a gander at the Democratic pols &c. who set up campaign committees. You had three men who had built businesses from scratch (one of whom had been Mayor of New York), another man who had experience both as a business executive and a state governor, and another man who had been elected governor of a red state. The Democratic primary electorate had no interest in any of these men. Instead, they took an interest in a walking resume with a butt buddy who’d had a perfectly meh record as mayor of a small city, a lapsed prosecutor with a history of abusing subordinates, a quondam law professor whose career had been crucially advanced by affirmative action fraud, and an old Trotskyist (who’d ironically performed satisfactorily as a mayor) railing aganst rich people from each of his three homes. And who wins but a stew of pathology, corruption, and stupidity who had been ignored in 2008 and laughed off the stage in 1987. Here’s your problem: Democratic primary voters are refuse. Their primary electorate is a collecting pool of people who have no interest in authentic accomplishment at all, likely cannot recognize it.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Art Deco

    It’s a little more complicated than that. (Fine, I’m a liberal).

    The Democratic primary voters, in addition to the lower-class types you note, include a lot of blue-state professionals who have made it through the trying cursus (dis)honorum of professional-managerial class life. They’re not stupid. They don’t respect business acumen, but that’s always been something Republicans liked better anyway.

    Are an oncologist from Massachusetts and a programmer from San Francisco stupid, per se? Or simply believers in the current progressive ideology of diversity? (Besides, for all her spurious war paint, Elizabeth Warren was effective enough at ruining financiers’ profiteering they chased her off the CFPB, and her Two-Income Trap from a while back pointed out one of the major unintended side-effects of feminism-working women means two incomes are now needed to compete.)

    Obama wasn’t dumb. He wasn’t on your side, but he wasn’t dumb. The only reason Biden got in was they finally realized they needed a white guy and he was the last one left who could win swing voters and not rock the boat (Bernie made the donors unhappy).

    Replies: @Art Deco, @J.Ross

  131. How? They need to psych you up to nuke the Russians. That’s more important than DEI.

  132. @Colin Wright
    @Jack D


    'I kid. The real spy at Los Alamos was Fuchs who was a Lutheran Aryan. It’s always the one you suspect the least. Aldrich Ames. Robert Hanssen. Whitaker Chambers. Kim Philby. Real spies don’t attend Communist Party meetings that are infiltrated by the FBI.'
     
    JackD reveals: not all spies have been Jews.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Wielgus, @res, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Koval
    Not at Los Alamos but he worked at the Oak Ridge site. He was the one that got away, leaving for the Soviet Union in 1948.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Wielgus

    Sioux City Iowa born n bred. Lol.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    , @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus

    ...and Wikipedia sneaks in a bit of demonstrably false slander and propaganda.


    '...Abram, a carpenter, settled in Sioux City, Iowa, which, at the turn of the 20th century, was home to a sizeable Jewish community of merchants and craftsmen. Many of these settlers moved from Russia, in which Jews had been ruthlessly persecuted under the czar's anti-Semitic policies and pogroms...'
     
    'the czar's (whatever happened to 'tsar'?)...pogroms' is a flat-out lie. The tsars did their damnedest to prevent pogroms. It's an utter canard that they fomented them. See Klier.
  133. @Bardon Kaldian
    @SafeNow

    Jews, as an ethnicity, have some recognizable mannerisms & stereotypes, but I don't think there is such thing as "Jewish filmmaking".

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @J.Ross

    ‘I don’t think there is such thing as “Jewish filmmaking”.’

    So, so wrong. Jews love making films where people stand around talking at or screaming at each other and there is no plot. Nothing happens. Often there are no scene changes. Preferably including lots of gratuitous and excessive profanity. Unwatchable bilge – unless you’re a jew, I spose.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    And yet somehow many of those Jew films met the test of the market.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen


    So, so wrong. Jews love making films where people stand around talking at or screaming at each other and there is no plot.Nothing happens. Often there are no scene changes.
     
    Erich von Stroheim, Sergei Eisenstein, Fritz Lang, William Wyler, Billy Wilder, Roman Polanski, Steven Spielberg, William Friedkin,..?
    , @Ministry Of Tongues
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen


    So, so wrong. Jews love making films where people stand around talking at or screaming at each other and there is no plot. Nothing happens. Often there are no scene changes. Preferably including lots of gratuitous and excessive profanity. Unwatchable bilge – unless you’re a jew, I spose.
     
    A trend that began with the Jewish director Ingmar Bergman, influenced by the Jewish playwright Samuel Beckett. Bergman rejected the cinematic conventions established by the highly Gentile Hollywood industry of the 30s and 40s.
    , @Jack D
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Yeah, what do Jews know about making movies?

  134. @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Koval
    Not at Los Alamos but he worked at the Oak Ridge site. He was the one that got away, leaving for the Soviet Union in 1948.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Colin Wright

    Sioux City Iowa born n bred. Lol.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    @Wokechoke

    He taught in Russian in the USSR, but apparently had a noticeable American accent. He was not treated with any particular favouritism in the Soviet Union despite his espionage help but from his account he was lucky to avoid the Gulag. He might have aroused suspicion as an American, especially in the late Stalin years. He was only given a medal posthumously, in 2007.

  135. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    But yes, in general the upward mobility of the Jews was remarkable. I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did. I think it’s hilarious/sad when they interview some illegal alien who has been here for 20 years and the interview is in Spanish because in 20 years said alien hasn’t learned two words of Ingles.
     
    Jack, I suggest you spend a moment and contemplate your own paragraph here.

    While hardly complete, the bookends alone are telling.

    Yeah, America has been very, very good to the Jews.
    The reverse ... uh ... not so much.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @Erik L

    Migrate to a new country get to sit in legal judgement of settled locals. The self unawareness of these folks.

  136. @Mr. Anon
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen


    It’s amazing I can find only CGI reenactments of atomic bomb detonations, but no film or video.
     
    It's amazing that so many people now can't tell the difference between actual film and CGI.

    It's amazing that so many people now are technically and historically illiterate.

    It's amazing that so many people actually believe that the Earth is flat.

    It's amazing that these people are even able to avoid drowing when it rains.

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    “It’s amazing that so many people now can’t tell the difference between actual film and CGI.”

    Yup, I left that howler* in my list to hook low-IQ suckers like yourself. Care to address my other, real, points?

    *the detonation [sic] of an ‘atomic bomb’ looks identical to any other large bomb, so film of a test detonation proves only that a large bomb was sploded and nothing more

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen


    *the detonation [sic] of an ‘atomic bomb’ looks identical to any other large bomb, so film of a test detonation proves only that a large bomb was sploded and nothing more
     
    No, it doesn't.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3ezhvCzWCM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYJ5JfrK7KE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXDccDeHu_k

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIO2LdWVz-E

    Okay, so you saw The Mind Benders and think it makes you smart. It doesn't.

    But do enlighten us on the Van Allen Belts, the Firmament, and the Antarctic Ice Wall. And while your at it, also the Hollow Earth, the Plasma Moon, and the Turtles that are "all the way down".
  137. SFG says:
    @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    If I'm not mistaken, Debs family was Alsatian.
    ==
    About Biden, have a gander at the Democratic pols &c. who set up campaign committees. You had three men who had built businesses from scratch (one of whom had been Mayor of New York), another man who had experience both as a business executive and a state governor, and another man who had been elected governor of a red state. The Democratic primary electorate had no interest in any of these men. Instead, they took an interest in a walking resume with a butt buddy who'd had a perfectly meh record as mayor of a small city, a lapsed prosecutor with a history of abusing subordinates, a quondam law professor whose career had been crucially advanced by affirmative action fraud, and an old Trotskyist (who'd ironically performed satisfactorily as a mayor) railing aganst rich people from each of his three homes. And who wins but a stew of pathology, corruption, and stupidity who had been ignored in 2008 and laughed off the stage in 1987. Here's your problem: Democratic primary voters are refuse. Their primary electorate is a collecting pool of people who have no interest in authentic accomplishment at all, likely cannot recognize it.

    Replies: @SFG

    It’s a little more complicated than that. (Fine, I’m a liberal).

    The Democratic primary voters, in addition to the lower-class types you note, include a lot of blue-state professionals who have made it through the trying cursus (dis)honorum of professional-managerial class life. They’re not stupid. They don’t respect business acumen, but that’s always been something Republicans liked better anyway.

    Are an oncologist from Massachusetts and a programmer from San Francisco stupid, per se? Or simply believers in the current progressive ideology of diversity? (Besides, for all her spurious war paint, Elizabeth Warren was effective enough at ruining financiers’ profiteering they chased her off the CFPB, and her Two-Income Trap from a while back pointed out one of the major unintended side-effects of feminism-working women means two incomes are now needed to compete.)

    Obama wasn’t dumb. He wasn’t on your side, but he wasn’t dumb. The only reason Biden got in was they finally realized they needed a white guy and he was the last one left who could win swing voters and not rock the boat (Bernie made the donors unhappy).

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @SFG

    I made no reference to 'lower class types'. My reference was to Democratic voters. Impecunious people who vote Democratic tend to be in one or another ethnic segment (blacks, Puerto Ricans, California Chicanos) or domestic situation (trashy single mothers). I didn't have them in mind in particular.
    ==
    I'm familiar with 'blue state professionals' who are street-level Democratic voters. It's an identity affirmation for them. They don't know public policy from tiddlywinks unless it intersects with their job and are unfamiliar with social theory of any kind.

    , @J.Ross
    @SFG

    People such as you describe are often bone ignorant of things they've never looked into; university has become a gullibilization for credential; plus there exist nominally "smart" people who, somehow, never read Postman or Lasn, and actually allow themselves to watch and believe the "news."
    So yeah, they're retards who have no idea what "cover," is or how to properly fire a rifle, and anyway whatever they "do" can probably be done by AI now. If the last thing holds (the news thing), they won't even have to be in a ditch come the revolution, it'll just be a "talking to plants" moment via their favorite news host.

  138. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    How was Oppenheimer privileged? In what venue could his old man put in a fix for him?

    Replies: @Jack D, @J.Ross

    “Privileged” is another way of saying rich. I gather that the Oppenheimers were quite wealthy. His father did really really well during WWI, going from just prosperous to “enough money to buy important paintings” money.

    My wife’s mother was modestly middle class but growing up she had a wealthy aunt (although not Oppenheimer rich). The aunt had a house in Atlantic City (at that time not a slum) and in that house there was an indoor swimming pool, which made an impression. Her husband had had a contract with the US Army to make puttees – those things that WWI soldiers wore wrapped around their lower legs. The Army needed a LOT of puttees during the war . Maybe before the war, 100 dozen would have been a big order for him but now the Army was asking for 100,000 ASAP.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    “Privileged” is another way of saying rich.
    ==
    Only if bad usage is your habit. It means 'private law'. With some exceptions, wealthy people have to pay their traffic tickets like everyone else.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Jack D

  139. @Thomm
    @Pixo

    If all of the world’s people were Ashkenazi Jews, human society would be about 350 years more advanced today than it is now. Their excellence in science, entertainment, finance, law, economics, literature, and more would be able to manifest on a much larger scale. Plus, if everyone is Jewish, there are no non-Jews for them to manipulate, so they will work in unison towards the big picture.

    The technological level would be comparable to what we see in Star Trek : The Next Generation. We would have warp drive, replicators, holodecks, and an interstellar civilization by now. We would already have started spreading out across the galaxy.

    This, of course, requires the genetic component of Ashkenazi Jews. Converting WN wiggers (avg. IQ: 70) to Judaism will not suddenly add 40+ points to their respective IQs.

    Even non-Jews with Jewish names, such as Morris Seligman Dees and Whoopi Goldberg (who still retains her original legal name Caryn Johnson) became much more successful than they would have been without the Jewish name. Ms. Johnson gave it to herself, so is even smarter than Mr. Dees. Ms. Johnson is an EGOT, only the fourth woman and first black person to complete the quartet of major awards. It is safe to say her talent is not on par with previous EGOT winners like Rita Moreno.

    Hey, it is true. The WN wiggers here routinely say that if all humans where black Africans, we would still be at around 1500 BC. By that same token, if all humans were Ashkenazi Jews, we would be 350 years ahead of where we are today.

    Thanks,
    - Mordecai Velvel Rabinowitz

    Replies: @awry, @QCIC, @pyrrhus, @Redneck Farmer, @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Slim, @AndrewR

    But they’d starve without farmers.

  140. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/nikstankovic_/status/1766216758258458921

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Lurker

    1. There are 30,000 unique parts in an ICE car, 2000 of which are movable.

    By comparison, there are 10,000 unique parts in an EV, 20 of which are movable.

    There’s all sorts of random anti-EV nonsense, but Stankovic’s claim here is still facile.

    Having fewer and far fewer moving parts is indeed a huge advantage. But that advantage should manifest itself in cost. And yet EVs cost more–considerably more–not less.

    At the end of the day it’s a question of the full cycle cost–cost of building, cost of operation, including both fueling (energy) and maintenance–which could include a new battery if required–and even potentially the cost of disassembly. And what sort of comfort. convenience and performance you get for that cost–including better performance of EVs, but much slower refueling.

    I expect EVs will win in the end for more or less his overall set of reasons. But it seems to me that for that to happen, there will need to be an improvement in battery technology. Something less expensive and safer than lithium ion, and ideally with faster charging.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    there are 10,000 unique parts in an EV, 20 of which are movable.

    This is clearly false. Aside from the motor and the transmission, EVs are largely identical to ICE cars. I can think of at least 20 unique moving parts just in the suspension system and brakes of one wheel of an EV without even trying. Have the people who write this shit ever actually been NEAR a car other than to ride in one? They should stick to bullshitting about things that they actually know about, which is not much.

    As you say, the bottom line is the bottom line - how much it costs to make the car, not the number of parts, movable or otherwise. If one of the non-movable parts of an electric car is the battery assembly and that one battery costs $10,000, that outweighs the cost of 2,000 moving valves and valve springs and pistons and connecting rods and what have you that have a average cost of $2 each.

    That being said, the Chinese are now turning out electric cars that cost LESS than ICE cars. The electric car will win in the end because it will be cheaper to make (and cheaper to drive), but not for the idiotic reasons mentioned.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @epebble

    , @That Would Be Telling
    @AnotherDad


    I expect EVs will win in the end for more or less his overall set of reasons. But it seems to me that for that to happen, there will need to be an improvement in battery technology. Something less expensive and safer than lithium ion, and ideally with faster charging.
     
    While it's still a "lithium iron," maybe look at the lithium iron phosphate battery. Have been hearing about this chemistry for a few years, and very recently noticed it's getting a lot of use. As Wikipedia puts it:

    Because of their low cost, high safety, low toxicity, long cycle life and other factors, LFP batteries are finding a number of roles.... As of September 2022, LFP type battery market share for EVs reached 31%, and of that, 68% was from Tesla and Chinese EV maker BYD production alone. Chinese manufacturers currently hold a near monopoly of LFP battery type production. With patents having started to expire in 2022 and the increased demand for cheaper EV batteries, LFP type production is expected to rise further and surpass lithium nickel manganese cobalt oxides (NMC) type batteries in 2028.
     
    In general principles they also have a lower energy density than the NMC type which is good for safety. Compare to non-rechargeable lithium metal batteries which are good for long life applications like the button cell on a motherboard, frequently can't be legally shipped by air, that I've read have a power density greater than TNT, and have heard from an eyewitness are used to demonstrate to servicemen training to be techs how dangerous what they're working on can be.

    I still see one very big problem with EVs and hybrids: the fragility of the batteries and their interconnections. As in, "how do you prove all the battery cells etc. are still good after a crash?" Although I'm guessing just now there may be technological solutions, although they'd add to the cost of a battery pack and its controlling electronics.

    In a way this is unfair, because however many parts each of these types of vehicles have, ICEs have had more than a century of refinement and real crash testing compared to modern EVs (early on they were a contender). But that suggests rushing into them headlong is a mistake, even if we can in theory innovate faster today.
    , @scrivener3
    @AnotherDad


    I expect EVs will win in the end for more or less his overall set of reasons. But it seems to me that for that to happen, there will need to be an improvement in battery technology. Something less expensive and safer than lithium ion, and ideally with faster charging.
     
    Good. So I hope that the working man who hauls tools to thejob site in a large pickup truck can finally stop making carbon credit payments to Telsa drivers who have an ICE vehicle or 2 in their garage to actually get around when they need to.
    , @Bill Jones
    @AnotherDad

    He fails to mention that those moving parts of the EV's only move about 20% of the time you want them to.

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @AnotherDad

    "I expect EVs will win in the end for more or less his overall set of reasons."

    When you make things in vast quantities, the price drops a lot.

    You can get a 50mp camera in a £120 phone these days. Millions are sold. But a 50mp sensor in a mirrorless camera with a decent zoom lens costs maybe 10 times that. Not so many people buy them.

    Replies: @res

  141. @SFG
    @Art Deco

    It’s a little more complicated than that. (Fine, I’m a liberal).

    The Democratic primary voters, in addition to the lower-class types you note, include a lot of blue-state professionals who have made it through the trying cursus (dis)honorum of professional-managerial class life. They’re not stupid. They don’t respect business acumen, but that’s always been something Republicans liked better anyway.

    Are an oncologist from Massachusetts and a programmer from San Francisco stupid, per se? Or simply believers in the current progressive ideology of diversity? (Besides, for all her spurious war paint, Elizabeth Warren was effective enough at ruining financiers’ profiteering they chased her off the CFPB, and her Two-Income Trap from a while back pointed out one of the major unintended side-effects of feminism-working women means two incomes are now needed to compete.)

    Obama wasn’t dumb. He wasn’t on your side, but he wasn’t dumb. The only reason Biden got in was they finally realized they needed a white guy and he was the last one left who could win swing voters and not rock the boat (Bernie made the donors unhappy).

    Replies: @Art Deco, @J.Ross

    I made no reference to ‘lower class types’. My reference was to Democratic voters. Impecunious people who vote Democratic tend to be in one or another ethnic segment (blacks, Puerto Ricans, California Chicanos) or domestic situation (trashy single mothers). I didn’t have them in mind in particular.
    ==
    I’m familiar with ‘blue state professionals’ who are street-level Democratic voters. It’s an identity affirmation for them. They don’t know public policy from tiddlywinks unless it intersects with their job and are unfamiliar with social theory of any kind.

  142. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    But yes, in general the upward mobility of the Jews was remarkable. I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did. I think it’s hilarious/sad when they interview some illegal alien who has been here for 20 years and the interview is in Spanish because in 20 years said alien hasn’t learned two words of Ingles.
     
    Jack, I suggest you spend a moment and contemplate your own paragraph here.

    While hardly complete, the bookends alone are telling.

    Yeah, America has been very, very good to the Jews.
    The reverse ... uh ... not so much.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @Erik L

    The first part I agree with – America has been very good to the Jews. Before the 1960s there were a few doors closed to them but there were plenty of opportunities that remained and since the ’60s almost no doors have been closed.

    But you are blaming “the Jews” for the Mexican guy? Sorry, buddy, “the Jews” didn’t do this. The idea that Jews are the ones responsible for illegal immigration is just another antisemitic canard like blaming them for the slave trade. Responsibility for illegal immigration is diffuse and does not fall solely upon the Jews’ heads.

    • LOL: JimDandy
    • Troll: Pastit
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    Oh, I get it, you're saying that the activists who advocate for Gazans are not directly responsible for the actions of Hamas, right?

  143. @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    "Privileged" is another way of saying rich. I gather that the Oppenheimers were quite wealthy. His father did really really well during WWI, going from just prosperous to "enough money to buy important paintings" money.

    My wife's mother was modestly middle class but growing up she had a wealthy aunt (although not Oppenheimer rich). The aunt had a house in Atlantic City (at that time not a slum) and in that house there was an indoor swimming pool, which made an impression. Her husband had had a contract with the US Army to make puttees - those things that WWI soldiers wore wrapped around their lower legs. The Army needed a LOT of puttees during the war . Maybe before the war, 100 dozen would have been a big order for him but now the Army was asking for 100,000 ASAP.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    “Privileged” is another way of saying rich.
    ==
    Only if bad usage is your habit. It means ‘private law’. With some exceptions, wealthy people have to pay their traffic tickets like everyone else.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Art Deco

    “With some exceptions, wealthy people have to pay their traffic tickets like everyone else.”

    Or get 91.6 million dollars to cover legal expenses—the Chubb Corporation, an insurance group, is floating the money to DJT for his most recent case. In 2018, he appointed Chubb’s CEO Evan Greenberg to a White House advisory committee for trade policy and negotiations.

    Nothing to see here…

    Replies: @Art Deco, @AnotherDad

    , @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    In some European countries, traffic tickets are tied to income so the pain is evenly distributed, but in the US they are not. The pain that a $500 ticket inflicts on a poor person is very different than the impact on someone who is rich.

    When I was growing up I had a friend with a wealthy dad who was always rushing to meetings and liked to speed a lot. Finally he lost his license on "points" and for the duration of the suspension he had a chauffeur. So while he was not able to avoid the law he was able to lessen its impact.

    Later in life he was appointed to be one of the commissioners of the state parkway authority. I can't say for sure whether this happened or not but I suspect that if he was ever pulled over on that highway the state troopers would have recognized (or been made to understand) that this man was in effect their boss and would have let him off with a warning.

    When one of his sons (the brother of my friend) was a young man he was driving a little English convertible sports car with a young lady as a passenger. There was an accident and the young lady was killed. I really don't know all of the circumstances but there was no arrest. I'm not sure the same would have been true if I had been the one driving, not that I owned a convertible sports car. At that age, I had an old pickup truck that I bought for $300.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  144. Whites will never be forgiven for their achievements, simple as.

  145. @Steve Sailer
    @pyrrhus

    And then they contributed a lot.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Sir Didymus

    “And then they contributed a lot.”

    Probably the most important contribution is “anti-whiteness” (however it is defined), right? At least that is what you casually imply.

    • Replies: @awry
    @Corvinus

    Yes that was part of the package. So whites got a "gift from God", it was a package full of chocolate, but poisoned by "God's people".
    But who knows, maybe Amerimutts don't mind being replaced and canceled in exchange of living in the parasitic superpower run by the yid world masters. After all it they are still pretty prosperous. It was their choice, but not a completely fair deal, because they were mostly blissfully unaware of what is coming for them.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  146. @AnotherDad


    The national reckoning over racial justice after the killing of George Floyd
     
    My impression is that the term “racial reckoning” has largely been dropped from hard news sections of newspapers (e.g., political news) after the Biden Administration figured out sometime in mid-2022 that the George Floyd craze was a vote loser and put out the word to the MSM to ease off. But the soft sections in the back of the book weren’t CCed on the memo, so still adore the concept of the racial reckoning.

    spurred many of the country’s most distinguished institutions into action, few more so than the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.
     

     
    Meant to say it on one of the prior AA or crime posts--about 3/4 of Steve's last dozen posts have been about blacks (their dysfunction and need for help).

    The striking thing about the establishments hissy this past few years is just how retro the whole black, black, black thing is.

    The East Coast Jews who pipe the tune on this stuff are still see a world of oppressed blacks and racist whites or at least--much more likely--still think this the cudgel for beating the goyim. Theirs is a world of racist flyover Bull Connors Derek Chauvins oppressing the designated minority stand in for the Jews--blacks. You'd think it was 1963, and they were playing "Blowin' in the Wind" on their turntables.

    But the world--America--has moved on. Blacks aren't even the largest minority. There were 60 million Hispanics--just ones that they were able to count--in 2020. And that's before the "Biden Administration" went all in on "drown the goyim!" and added 8 million more--far too many blacks, but they are still mostly Hispanics. And there are 20 million--and growing--Asians.

    And people do not understand how crazy these immigration numbers are. There are 40-45 million blacks in the US. But they have sub-replacement TFR and a pretty modern age pyramid.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans#Demographics
    only say 12 million or so of the 45 will be "breeding age". But the border jumpers--actually under the "Biden Administration" no athleticism is required--are going to be mostly breeding age. People whom once settled will be having children. So the 8 million the "Biden Administration" has already let it in three years will be the breeding equivalent of about half the US black population.

    We are a rapidly Latinizing nation--with still a big black minority--why my "slumping toward Brazil" is really handy grab on where we are headed.

    The minoritarian yappers are apparently going to keep playing their 60s favorites until they are in the grave. But America simply isn't that black and white nation anymore. Blacks--like Jews--may not find our "diverse" future quite to their liking.

    Replies: @Anon, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Yep, Steve and many of his readers, especially the Jews, are mentally stuck in the 20th century. For a variety of reasons, they don’t want to face the reality of 2024 America.

    In his heart, Steve is a missionary, wanting to raise up the quality of life of blacks by, in essence, forcing them to act more white.

    While not creating great neighborhoods, Hispanics just don’t scratch that missionary itch for Steve. They do well enough without him. Of course, Asians and Indians don’t need help.

    In addition, Steve loves to debate ideas and policies based on those ideas. Asians, Indians and Hispanics are turning the country tribal. Multiracial societies aren’t about ideas; they’re about tribe and dividing the pie. There’s no place for Steve in that world.

    As to the Jews, Hispanics are fine, but they can’t use Hispanics as a weapon against whites like they can blacks. But, more importantly, Asians and Indians are real competition both because they’re smart and because they’re way more tribal than whites.

    Asians and Indians don’t care about some story from nearly 100 years ago in far off lands. Asians and Indians just see Jews as a powerful group that they need to deal with, not some special, holy victim.

    And that drives Jews nuts. Jews not only want to run the show, they everyone to pretend that they don’t and to praise them for how good and special they are. Asians and Indians just treat them like any other group.

    You can see why Steve and Jack would want to stay in the 20th century.

  147. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    The first part I agree with - America has been very good to the Jews. Before the 1960s there were a few doors closed to them but there were plenty of opportunities that remained and since the '60s almost no doors have been closed.

    But you are blaming "the Jews" for the Mexican guy? Sorry, buddy, "the Jews" didn't do this. The idea that Jews are the ones responsible for illegal immigration is just another antisemitic canard like blaming them for the slave trade. Responsibility for illegal immigration is diffuse and does not fall solely upon the Jews' heads.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Oh, I get it, you’re saying that the activists who advocate for Gazans are not directly responsible for the actions of Hamas, right?

  148. @SFG
    @Art Deco

    It’s a little more complicated than that. (Fine, I’m a liberal).

    The Democratic primary voters, in addition to the lower-class types you note, include a lot of blue-state professionals who have made it through the trying cursus (dis)honorum of professional-managerial class life. They’re not stupid. They don’t respect business acumen, but that’s always been something Republicans liked better anyway.

    Are an oncologist from Massachusetts and a programmer from San Francisco stupid, per se? Or simply believers in the current progressive ideology of diversity? (Besides, for all her spurious war paint, Elizabeth Warren was effective enough at ruining financiers’ profiteering they chased her off the CFPB, and her Two-Income Trap from a while back pointed out one of the major unintended side-effects of feminism-working women means two incomes are now needed to compete.)

    Obama wasn’t dumb. He wasn’t on your side, but he wasn’t dumb. The only reason Biden got in was they finally realized they needed a white guy and he was the last one left who could win swing voters and not rock the boat (Bernie made the donors unhappy).

    Replies: @Art Deco, @J.Ross

    People such as you describe are often bone ignorant of things they’ve never looked into; university has become a gullibilization for credential; plus there exist nominally “smart” people who, somehow, never read Postman or Lasn, and actually allow themselves to watch and believe the “news.”
    So yeah, they’re retards who have no idea what “cover,” is or how to properly fire a rifle, and anyway whatever they “do” can probably be done by AI now. If the last thing holds (the news thing), they won’t even have to be in a ditch come the revolution, it’ll just be a “talking to plants” moment via their favorite news host.

  149. @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123


    1. There are 30,000 unique parts in an ICE car, 2000 of which are movable.

    By comparison, there are 10,000 unique parts in an EV, 20 of which are movable.
     
    There's all sorts of random anti-EV nonsense, but Stankovic's claim here is still facile.

    Having fewer and far fewer moving parts is indeed a huge advantage. But that advantage should manifest itself in cost. And yet EVs cost more--considerably more--not less.

    At the end of the day it's a question of the full cycle cost--cost of building, cost of operation, including both fueling (energy) and maintenance--which could include a new battery if required--and even potentially the cost of disassembly. And what sort of comfort. convenience and performance you get for that cost--including better performance of EVs, but much slower refueling.

    I expect EVs will win in the end for more or less his overall set of reasons. But it seems to me that for that to happen, there will need to be an improvement in battery technology. Something less expensive and safer than lithium ion, and ideally with faster charging.

    Replies: @Jack D, @That Would Be Telling, @scrivener3, @Bill Jones, @YetAnotherAnon

    there are 10,000 unique parts in an EV, 20 of which are movable.

    This is clearly false. Aside from the motor and the transmission, EVs are largely identical to ICE cars. I can think of at least 20 unique moving parts just in the suspension system and brakes of one wheel of an EV without even trying. Have the people who write this shit ever actually been NEAR a car other than to ride in one? They should stick to bullshitting about things that they actually know about, which is not much.

    As you say, the bottom line is the bottom line – how much it costs to make the car, not the number of parts, movable or otherwise. If one of the non-movable parts of an electric car is the battery assembly and that one battery costs $10,000, that outweighs the cost of 2,000 moving valves and valve springs and pistons and connecting rods and what have you that have a average cost of $2 each.

    That being said, the Chinese are now turning out electric cars that cost LESS than ICE cars. The electric car will win in the end because it will be cheaper to make (and cheaper to drive), but not for the idiotic reasons mentioned.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    there are 10,000 unique parts in an EV, 20 of which are movable.
     
    You'll note I didn't parrot his specific claim, which is obviously ridiculous.

    That being said, the Chinese are now turning out electric cars that cost LESS than ICE cars.
     
    Cheaper than American and European ICE cars--sure. Cheaper than Chinese ICE cars? Not sure of that--haven't seen one-to-one.

    The West needs to get off its ridiculous free-trade tic, or it can kiss its ass goodbye.** The Chinese labor cost advantage has narrowed, but it is still considerable and won't go away obviously until China's GDP/capita near matches the West, in which case it will be an absolute monster power.

    Europe is now killing themselves with "Net Zero" nonsense. Decimating their auto-industry, which simply won't be competitive with the Chinese imports in EVs.

    **Of course, this economic stupidity is absolutely dwarfed by the immigration stupidity, which in a few generations would mean there is no "West" at all.

    Replies: @res

    , @epebble
    @Jack D

    the Chinese are now turning out electric cars that cost LESS than ICE cars. The electric car will win in the end because it will be cheaper to make (and cheaper to drive)

    “Corolla killer:” BYD launches $US15,000 EV in direct attack on legacy makers:
    https://thedriven.io/2024/02/22/corolla-killer-byd-launches-us15000-ev-in-direct-attack-on-legacy-makers/

    U.S. Automakers are getting the signal and pulling back on their investments.

    Tesla-beating BYD and other Chinese carmakers using Mexico as back door poses ‘extinction-level’ threat to U.S. auto sector, warns trade group:

    https://fortune.com/2024/02/24/chinese-carmakers-evs-mexico-back-door-threat-american-automotive-sector/

  150. @Pixo
    @SFG

    My most serious relationship with a Jewess was a lovely girl from a rich family who was the highest scoring white female in the entire USA in the Putnam math competition.

    She wasn’t a leftist, but didn’t want children until she was 35+ and said this to me at 23. She was born when her mother was 42 and seemed pretty serious, and is married for 10+ years now without children. No amount of IQ, family money, and the Khazar M’s she was gifted with were worth a sterile future. So I ended it.

    My “shiksa goddess” babymama by contrast was born when her mother was 18, and at 24 and single when we met, was feeling like the old maid of her family.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    You dodged a bullet.

    By the way- I didn’t think about it- which is the fertility rate of US secular Jews, i.e. not persons with some Jewish ancestry, nor religious folks? I mean families where both spouses are Jewish.

    I guess it is about the same as other middle class whites, although I haven’t seen the data.

  151. The Manhattan Project-era Jewish scientists were generally a bit embarrassed to be Jewish. They were mainly from upper class German / Western European roots, while in the U.S. the majority of Jews were Yiddish-speaking Eastern European rustics. They saw Jewish religious practice as a pile of time-wasting superstition that they – or in a lot of cases, their families multiple generations back – had shed in favor of secularism.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Suburban Dad

    Yeah uh huh. They were still circumcised, correct?

    , @Anonymous
    @Suburban Dad


    The Manhattan Project-era Jewish scientists were generally a bit embarrassed to be Jewish. They were mainly from upper class German / Western European roots, while in the U.S. the majority of Jews were Yiddish-speaking Eastern European rustics. They saw Jewish religious practice as a pile of time-wasting superstition that they – or in a lot of cases, their families multiple generations back – had shed in favor of secularism.
     
    Hello, Suburban,
    I don't know how many Manhattan Project scientists were American yekkes, but it is certainly true that they held the eastern European Jews in disdain. The poet Karl Shapiro referred to them as vaudeville Jews.
    But it's complicated. Shapiro himself wasn't a yekke but wanted to be one, that's why he changed the spelling of his first name from Carl to Karl, to seem more German.
    Here's an article by Yisrael Kashkin, about American yekkes and greater Germany, as we might label it, by a man who calls himself an American yekke although his ancestors immigrated from Ukraine:
    https://seforimblog.com/2016/09/the-american-yekkes/
    And here's an article about the yekkes and the eastern European Jews which begins with an anecdote about the time the Hungarian-born journalist Ladislas Farrago visited Jewish Palestine in the 1930s and was called a yekke potz.
    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/0449010X.2000.10705191?needAccess=true
    , @BB753
    @Suburban Dad

    But ordinary Americans weren't allowed to be embarrassed by those same Eastern Jews. Or else. That was what the ACLU and ADL were created for.

  152. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    How was Oppenheimer privileged? In what venue could his old man put in a fix for him?

    Replies: @Jack D, @J.Ross

    Physics, of course. Oppenheimer actually was terrible at math and chemistry, but, like ya do, the old man put in a word, and, Jack is a d’oh-nut.

  153. @B36
    The obvious way that "Oppenheimer" could have been made more diverse would have been to add Japanese actors portraying ordinary people going about their lives on what would be their last day.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Wokechoke

    Especially the Catholic ones.

  154. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Anon

    I used to think that Steve was being clever, but now, I'm beginning to think that he really is confused about why certain things happen.

    Despite almost daily mocking of the MSM, Steve never asks who pays for all of this silliness. I think willful ignorance is a prerequisite for Steve's class.

    I mean, Charles Murray recently tweeted that he couldn't think of one negative thing about Jews being allowed to rise to their level of prominence over the past 200 years. Not one.

    Steve lives in that same world.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @mc23, @Renard

    That’s the result of decades of intense self insulation.

  155. @From Beer to Paternity
    @martin_2

    I didn’t think it was serious and it was not original in a good way. If Oppenheimer is considered a good film then I haven’t been lured back.

    It was decent enough for me to sit through it without falling asleep. But in the theater I was in, it was so freaking loud that I found myself wishing I had the hearing protection that I'd use when shooting.

    When the Trinity test was depicted, at least I was prepared and it was cool. Was Feynman really doing that silly bongo playing after the test? Wonder how many caught that. I know it was a schtick of his, but I'm curious if he was really that goofy. I doubt it (but he definitely had an ego proportional w/ his IQ).

    It was a movie. I kept wanting a big-ass bucket of popcorn with extra butter. And hearing protection.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Was Feynman really doing that silly bongo playing after the test? Wonder how many caught that. I know it was a schtick of his, but I’m curious if he was really that goofy. I doubt it (but he definitely had an ego proportional w/ his IQ).

    Bongo- no, that’s rubbish; Feynman was an eccentric, but not an egoist. He was one of the most psychologically mature & selfless persons to grace physics. Always ready to admit others’ accomplishments, never demeaning others, actually very critical about his abilities. A free spirit.

    Gell-Mann was a miserable envious midget.

    • Replies: @From Beer to Paternity
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Bongo- no, that’s rubbish; Feynman was an eccentric, but not an egoist. He was one of the most psychologically mature & selfless persons to grace physics. Always ready to admit others’ accomplishments, never demeaning others, actually very critical about his abilities. A free spirit.

    Gell-Mann was a miserable envious midget.


    But I've got to say, eccentrics with great intellectual ability are sometimes pretty freaky. And of course they fight amongst themselves and say or do "crazy" things. They can obsess over underground/subway train schedules or chess, minor legal matters, and so on. That's always interesting to me.

    Meanwhile, in the soft sciences, lunatics cough up the most bizarre crap. And they corrupt damned near everything with their fevered imaginations.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    , @James B. Shearer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "...never demeaning others .."

    I took a class from Feynman and this is not correct. Students were afraid to ask questions because he sometimes gave demeaning responses. This was before the requirement that teachers preface every answer with "that's a good question".

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @J.Ross

    , @That Would Be Telling
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Feynman was an eccentric, but not an egoist
     
    Perhaps, but on the other hand he wasn't free of ego. In one of his autobiography volumes he mentions developing basic calculus himself before being conventionally exposed to it, and thus he had his own toolbox of integrals. So when people got stuck using the conventional set, he'd generally be able to help them, whereas when he got stuck with one that was part of the conventional set, they'd just think he'd forgot it.

    Of course, to admit this to anyone is itself the sign of a guy with control over his ego, albeit much later in his life and I'm pretty sure after getting his Nobel. But back in the day he was very young, just out of graduate school and rubbing shoulders with giants in physics like "Nicolas Baker." Fortunately, and this made a big difference for everyone, when things moved to pure physics he could put his ... humbled ego??? completely to the side and do the physics.

    So he was noticed as one of the most promising young physicists, and Otto Robert Frisch mentions him a few times in his autobiography I mentioned. Like Feynman despite his youth was on the committee that judged which experiments would be done, both if they were worth the effort and safe enough.

    So they OKed one very closely simulating the Little Boy design, which if the two pieces of uranium got stuck next to each other.... But Frisch was really good at experimentation, for example why Bohr recruited him, and convinced the committee he could do it safely and generate useful data. And a Little Boy was the first used and without it being tested due to a lack of U-235, it wasn't even all highly/highest purified.
  156. @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon

    If you go by nominal GDP, Russia is still #11, tied with Mexico. Not very impressive compared to the GDP of NATO .

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    And, yet, Russia has not only withstood everything that NATO has thrown at it, Russia is winning and winning big.

    I don’t know if Ukraine will go down as America’s Syracuse, but it has fundamentally changed the world political order.

    The US was defeated, both economically by Russia actually thriving under the sanctions and militarily by the tiny Russian economy out-producing the entire West.

    America now must live in a world where many nations can punch back hard enough to deter the US from doing anything – and they know it. Should be fun.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Winning big? LOL. You can argue that it is a stalemate but no disinterested observer would say that Russia is winning bigly.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

  157. @pyrrhus
    @Thomm

    Factual problem...until the 20th century, Jews contributed virtually nothing to science...

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @mc23

    I don’t think so. They were prominent in the Golden age of Islamic science where they comprised perhaps 15% of significant figures. George Sarton wrote about it (just, I read about it long ago). In the west, there were prominent Jewish figures in the 19th C in sciences, primarily mathematics- Jacobi, Kronecker, Sylvester,…Hertz in physics. Eisenstein (not a director) was lauded by Gauss, but he died young. Gotthold.

  158. @J.Ross
    OT -- I guess Steve's comment on the State of the Union, let alone the completely dilatory primaries, was his lack of comment. My pre-taping prediction was wrong (I forgot about the wake-up drug J. Mason of Ecuadorial fame had described earlier) but I largely agree. I'd like to hear what any retired lawyers whose last name starts with the fourth letter of the alphabet thought about it, but maybe I can search that.
    Even with Mason's Elixir he was recognizable, though.
    HE FEELS THE POLITICAL WIND, STEVE. HE FEELS THE POLITICAL WIND AT HIS BACK. BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT HIM, IT'S ABOUT ME WINNING, IT'S NOT WHO WINS. STEVE.
    In football news, how will the University of South Carolina cope with the loss of their coach, Lincoln Riley?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar

    In football news, how will the University of South Carolina cope with the loss of their coach, Lincoln Riley?

    He must have told them he was named after Benjamin.

    Remembering another important Lincoln in American history

    Did Biden make any public statements in 2001 about Ingmar Guandique’s victim? (Ironically, an intern with the Bureau of Prisons.) How is Ingmar doing today? Is he still “undocumented”? (Isn’t documentation part of the job of those interns?)

  159. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    You have to look at the period involved. No one gives a damn about the stupid country club but from the 1920s to the 1960s Yale had a Jewish quota.
     
    Bah, wah, wah. So what? It was they Wasp's university. They built it. And they wanted to keep it that way and have it available for their own kids. And heck, they gave you a big ass quota--many times the Jewish population share. Jews annoyed by it? Stop whining and build your own 'effing university. The Catholics built over 100 of them.

    Go ahead, start your verbal bullshitting. Just whine on ... and on ... and on. The vast Jewish sense of entitlement to other people's stuff ... it never gets old.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Ben Kurtz

    There are a great many foundationally Catholic colleges (over 200), but only a dozen or so research universities. (BC, Fordham, Catholic University of America, Georgetown, Notre Dame, DePaul, Loyola of Chicago, Marquette, St. Louis, and, just under the envelope, St. John’s, Seton Hall, Villanova, the University of Dayton, and the University of Dallas). The Church was demographically much larger than the Jewish population and had organized manpower and ready forms to build institutions of all kinds. When the religious orders imploded demographically, the Catholic character of these institutions evaporated.
    ==
    In other liturgical bodies, you had an established hierarchy, but it didn’t produce much more than a few teaching institutions. Not sure the Orthodox bodies established anything but seminaries.

  160. @Frau Katze
    @Jack D

    But not all the scientists on the Manhattan Project were Jews, although they were over represented.

    Some who weren’t: Enrico Fermi, Hans Bethe (apparently his mother had a Jewish background but was not raised in the faith), Glen T Seaborg (Swedish descent), Klaus Fuchs (spy, German Protestant), Luis Walter Alvarez (Catholic of Spanish descent), Neils Bohr (Danish).

    There’s plenty more.

    Replies: @Jack D, @SFG, @Bardon Kaldian, @Ben Kurtz

    Niels Bohr wasn’t on the Manhattan Project.

    He spent WWII in occupied Copenhagen after getting all the foreign scientists out of his institute. (Btw, the Danes don’t get enough credit for being the cleverest Gentile nationality in Europe – they managed make their country judenrein by shipping all the Jews out of their territory during WWII and they still get thanked for their actions.)

    There was a popular Broadway stage play some years ago about Heisenberg visiting Bohr during the war and trying to convince him to join the Nazi A-bomb project, which Bohr declined to do. (The Munich Project? What should we call it?)

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Ben Kurtz


    Niels Bohr wasn’t on the Manhattan Project.
     
    He was also half-Jewish banker on his mother's side. Not that I care, but that might be important to others here. And to Oppenheimer.
    , @That Would Be Telling
    @Ben Kurtz


    Niels Bohr wasn’t on the Manhattan Project.
     
    But famously a "Nicholas Baker" and his son "James Baker" visited Los Alamo, the former a number of times. After first meeting Groves, Einstein, and Pauli credibly per Wikipedia. Perhaps one reason Bohr refused to help the Nazis was that the didn't believe you could do it "without turning your country into an industrial plant."

    Of course he would be most familiar with very small scale of Denmark and by American standards the not too big scale of Western to Centeral-ish or so Europe, so when he arrived in the US he noted we'd done exactly that. Albeit I add in smallish tucked away corners like Oak Ridge for U-245 enrichment and Hanford for plutonium production.

    Per (((Otto Robert Frisch))) excellent autobiography, What Little I Remember his son "James" much later also earned a Nobel for difficult work in modeling a nucleus between the low energy level where geometric packing works well and the very excited state where the liquid drop model amazingly works well.

    Frisch was one of the most essential men in the path to the bomb, the first and only? to ask if fast neutrons could work and then calculate it. That book also provides more insight into the criticality accidents at Los Alamos which killed two men, and the one that almost got him, than I've ever heard before (Frisch was a world class experimentalist, and trusted to do one of the most dangerous experiments done there). We widely hear the first guy ignored the rule to never work alone, but there was also a formally established one to never, ever, hold a neutron reflector over a near critical mass so that if you dropped it it would kill you....

    He has almost nothing to say about (((Slotin))), partly reading between the lines I think he thought he was bat-shit crazy or worse, which is my conclusion as well. Frisch's close call happened because the "student" he was working with freaking unplugged the neutron counter, prompting Frisch to lean over the apparatus without being able to directly, immediately realize his body was reflecting neutrons until the counter was plugged back in. It was later calculated he was two seconds from getting a fatal dose....

    If you like Thirty Years Which Shook Physics, (((Fenyman's))) autobiographies, and/or the first half of Rhodes which covers the development of nuclear physics I highly recommend this short book.

    Replies: @prosa123

    , @Frau Katze
    @Ben Kurtz

    Re: Niels Bohr

    According to Wikipedia:


    In September 1943 word reached Bohr that he was about to be arrested by the Germans, so he fled to Sweden. From there, he was flown to Britain, where he joined the British Tube Alloys nuclear weapons project, and was part of the British mission to the Manhattan Project.
     
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niels_Bohr

    Replies: @Ben Kurtz

    , @Gordo
    @Ben Kurtz

    Nonsense, Bohr flew from Sweden to UK in the bomb bay of a Mosquito, falling unconscious on the way because he forgot to put his oxygen mask on, then on to New Mexico.

    Heisenberg asked Bohr in Copenhagen to send a message to physicists in the West that he was crippling the German program and asked that Bohr persuade them to do likewise. Bohr disbelieved Heisenberg and backed the bomb.

    Cue Heisenberg haters, but remember Heisenberg refused all weapons work post WWII, and during the 3rd Reich was accused of being a’White Jew’ in Schwartz Korp. He had a quiet courage.

    And I can see why that would offend some people.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    , @mc23
    @Ben Kurtz

    I read an article recently by someone who's family had escaped the German sweep to round up the Danish Jews that the deputy head of the SS, Werner Best, played a major role in the escape of Danish Jews for reasons that aren't clear.


    When the extent of the failure of the round-up became apparent, Hitler telegrammed Best ordering him to explain himself. He responded that he had done as he had been ordered - he had made Denmark Judenrein.
     
    https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-45919900
    , @nebulafox
    @Ben Kurtz

    True-and it should be lauded-but a critical part of the story was the fact that the Danes had very cooperative German occupation authorities until late 1943. The flotilla to Sweden was prompted by a German diplomat leaking the deportation order from Hitler to the Danes.

    What the Italians managed to achieve was quite impressive, IMO. Over 80 percent of their Jews-a number swelled by refugees-survived the war. That was no mean feat in a country in their situation, both before and especially after summer 1943 when the country turned into an active war zone crawling with SS and active Wehrmacht.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  161. @SFG
    @awry

    The thing I would argue is once the whole society is like that you would tend to see selection for more ‘goyish’ personality types, if only because there is an evolutionary niche that opens up. The Israelis are considerably more macho than diaspora Jews, and most people are adaptable enough to adjust to situations.

    Probably after a few hundred years things would be similar to the way they actually turned out as the population adapted to the environment. I guess you might have a slightly higher rate of technical progress due to the higher baseline IQ, but which way that would wind up is anyone’s guess. You might just get nuclear war as everyone figures out the Bomb earlier. It would ultimately depend on when you replaced the world with Ashkenazi Jews, as the higher IQ didn’t evolve until the Middle Ages-ancient Israel wasn’t a particularly unique Levantine kingdom.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The Israelis are considerably more macho than diaspora Jews…

    Who, at least in America, are considerably more “macho” than the cousins they left in Europe. At least if the Schumers and Koches and Bloombergs are any indication. (Or is that just a New York thing? (And LA Clippers owners.))

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Reg Cæsar

    Gangsters are macho.

  162. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    “Privileged” is another way of saying rich.
    ==
    Only if bad usage is your habit. It means 'private law'. With some exceptions, wealthy people have to pay their traffic tickets like everyone else.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Jack D

    “With some exceptions, wealthy people have to pay their traffic tickets like everyone else.”

    Or get 91.6 million dollars to cover legal expenses—the Chubb Corporation, an insurance group, is floating the money to DJT for his most recent case. In 2018, he appointed Chubb’s CEO Evan Greenberg to a White House advisory committee for trade policy and negotiations.

    Nothing to see here…

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Corvinus

    There actually is nothing to see there.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @AnotherDad
    @Corvinus


    Nothing to see here…
     
    There's plenty to see here, you just don't want to see it. Ludicrous abuse of the "justice" system for political prosecution.

    The minoritarians have abused the legal system for decades to institute policies they could not get--often would not even have the courage to run on--at the ballot box.

    Now the Parasite Party has moved on to show trials where someone can just make up stuff from decades ago and essentially steal from their political opponents and if you object and say "bullshit" they loot you even more. (We really--any society that wants to survive--needs to stop this ridiculous pampering of women. This woman had her chance to accuse Trump--and Les Moonves (she was apparently smoking hot 50-something rape bait for powerful men in NYC)--of raping way back in whatever year she's claiming now. Back when there would be store clerks and customers and store video to provide evidence. Women can not simultaneous be "you go girl!" can-do-anything adults and complete helpless children. Pick one.)

    The other NY case, there is no counterparty alleging fraud--no failure to pay premiums or loans by Trump, no bogus claims. Rather officials of the state of NY decide to have a civil prosecution of Trump. Then when other businessmen get worried about the ramifications to this lawlessness, the governor announces basically no don't worry, we're just prosecuting Trump.

    We're in "show me the man, I'll show you the crime" territory.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Guest007

  163. @nebulafox
    @SFG

    Hans Bethe was a Mischlinge, too. In his case, Gentile German father, Jewish mother. This was not uncommon in the Central European haute bourgeoisie, with the result being that many people didn’t even know they were classified as Jews until the Nazis informed them.

    Re, Fermi: it is worth remembering that Italian Fascism was not anti-Semitic until 1938, so Fermi did not have a reason to leave until then. That said, Fermi was the one who experimentally verified the successful discovery of fission in Berlin (Hahn, Strassmann, and Meitner) less than a year before the war started, and he was the one who brought the news across the Atlantic. He could not have been under any illusions about the risk. Nor could Einstein, who had worked down the hall from Hahn for nearly two decades and understood the connections people like von Weizsäcker had in the government.

    (Fermi was a truly amazing scientist. He was something we don’t see at all today: a fully fluent theorist and experimentalist.)

    It had been a crazy year in Italian physics: Majorana disappeared off the face of the earth not that much earlier.

    Replies: @prosa123

    Fermi fared a lot better (well, other than the “dying young” part) than his fellow Italian physicist Emilio Segre. At the outbreak of war Segre found himself in the US, but as a citizen of a hostile nation was prohibited from any sort of secret work. Knowing that Segre would be a vital asset to the Manhattan Project, Nobel Prize-winning physicist Ernest Lawrence called in all sorts of favors to get Segre cleared to work at Lawrence’s Radiation Laboratory at the University of California.

    It was not quite as generous a gesture as it might seem. Knowing that Segre had no other job options, Lawrence proceeded to pay Segre – who was one of the world’s top physicists, after all – a shockingly low salary, by some reports less than the facility’s janitors earned. For the rest of his life Segre deeply resented Lawrence and the University of California.

    • Replies: @Ministry Of Tongues
    @prosa123


    For the rest of his life Segre deeply resented Lawrence and the University of California.
     
    Segre deeply resented everyone.
  164. @Ben Kurtz
    @Frau Katze

    Niels Bohr wasn't on the Manhattan Project.

    He spent WWII in occupied Copenhagen after getting all the foreign scientists out of his institute. (Btw, the Danes don't get enough credit for being the cleverest Gentile nationality in Europe - they managed make their country judenrein by shipping all the Jews out of their territory during WWII and they still get thanked for their actions.)

    There was a popular Broadway stage play some years ago about Heisenberg visiting Bohr during the war and trying to convince him to join the Nazi A-bomb project, which Bohr declined to do. (The Munich Project? What should we call it?)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @That Would Be Telling, @Frau Katze, @Gordo, @mc23, @nebulafox

    Niels Bohr wasn’t on the Manhattan Project.

    He was also half-Jewish banker on his mother’s side. Not that I care, but that might be important to others here. And to Oppenheimer.

  165. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    there are 10,000 unique parts in an EV, 20 of which are movable.

    This is clearly false. Aside from the motor and the transmission, EVs are largely identical to ICE cars. I can think of at least 20 unique moving parts just in the suspension system and brakes of one wheel of an EV without even trying. Have the people who write this shit ever actually been NEAR a car other than to ride in one? They should stick to bullshitting about things that they actually know about, which is not much.

    As you say, the bottom line is the bottom line - how much it costs to make the car, not the number of parts, movable or otherwise. If one of the non-movable parts of an electric car is the battery assembly and that one battery costs $10,000, that outweighs the cost of 2,000 moving valves and valve springs and pistons and connecting rods and what have you that have a average cost of $2 each.

    That being said, the Chinese are now turning out electric cars that cost LESS than ICE cars. The electric car will win in the end because it will be cheaper to make (and cheaper to drive), but not for the idiotic reasons mentioned.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @epebble

    there are 10,000 unique parts in an EV, 20 of which are movable.

    You’ll note I didn’t parrot his specific claim, which is obviously ridiculous.

    That being said, the Chinese are now turning out electric cars that cost LESS than ICE cars.

    Cheaper than American and European ICE cars–sure. Cheaper than Chinese ICE cars? Not sure of that–haven’t seen one-to-one.

    The West needs to get off its ridiculous free-trade tic, or it can kiss its ass goodbye.** The Chinese labor cost advantage has narrowed, but it is still considerable and won’t go away obviously until China’s GDP/capita near matches the West, in which case it will be an absolute monster power.

    Europe is now killing themselves with “Net Zero” nonsense. Decimating their auto-industry, which simply won’t be competitive with the Chinese imports in EVs.

    **Of course, this economic stupidity is absolutely dwarfed by the immigration stupidity, which in a few generations would mean there is no “West” at all.

    • Replies: @res
    @AnotherDad


    Cheaper than Chinese ICE cars? Not sure of that–haven’t seen one-to-one.
     
    Here is an example from Reddit. Looks like not quite yet. Battery cost will probably drive that and does appear to be decreasing rapidly.
    China is reaching parity cost between EV and ICE vehicle around 2024/2025.

    Today in China as an example, cost of ICE B segment sedan :

    • Geely Engrand L : 93,900-109,900 RMB (14,730-17,245 USD)

    • Geely Emgrand Hybrid :115,800-153,800 RMB (18,170-24,135 USD)

    Comparing to its EV Sibling :

    • Geometry G6 :119,800 – 147,800 RMB (16,500 – 20,400 USD) - range 410-500KM (CTP)
     
    A comparison from the comments.

    From the American perspective, we are doing poorly. Most EVs are anywhere from $10,000 to $20,000 more expensive than equivalent ICEs from the same brand when configured to the same levels of equipment.

    The example I like to use the most is a Hyundai Ioniq 5 versus a Hyundai Tucson.

    • Ioniq 5 SE ER AWD is $20,450 more expensive than a Tucson SE AWD

    • Ioniq 5 SEL AWD is $17,350 more expensive than a Tucson SEL AWD w/ Convenience package

    • Ioniq 5 Limited AWD is $19,240 more expensive than a Tucson Limited AWD
     
  166. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    You have to look at the period involved. No one gives a damn about the stupid country club but from the 1920s to the 1960s Yale had a Jewish quota.
     
    Bah, wah, wah. So what? It was they Wasp's university. They built it. And they wanted to keep it that way and have it available for their own kids. And heck, they gave you a big ass quota--many times the Jewish population share. Jews annoyed by it? Stop whining and build your own 'effing university. The Catholics built over 100 of them.

    Go ahead, start your verbal bullshitting. Just whine on ... and on ... and on. The vast Jewish sense of entitlement to other people's stuff ... it never gets old.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Ben Kurtz

    Stop whining and build your own ‘effing university.

    Which the Jews did.

    I can think of three right off the top of my head: Yeshiva University in Upper Manhattan, Brandies University in suburban Boston, and Touro College in the New York’s outer boroughs.

    There are probably a couple more that I’m forgetting, and these are of course separate from religious seminaries and rabbinical colleges, of which there are many across the land.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Ben Kurtz

    AD goes under the assumption that Yale was the WASPs "own" university, which it was not. Early in its history it was a religious seminary but quite soon it became a secular non-profit with students (and donors) from all religions so it did not "belong" to the WASPs or any other group.

  167. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    “Privileged” is another way of saying rich.
    ==
    Only if bad usage is your habit. It means 'private law'. With some exceptions, wealthy people have to pay their traffic tickets like everyone else.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Jack D

    In some European countries, traffic tickets are tied to income so the pain is evenly distributed, but in the US they are not. The pain that a $500 ticket inflicts on a poor person is very different than the impact on someone who is rich.

    When I was growing up I had a friend with a wealthy dad who was always rushing to meetings and liked to speed a lot. Finally he lost his license on “points” and for the duration of the suspension he had a chauffeur. So while he was not able to avoid the law he was able to lessen its impact.

    Later in life he was appointed to be one of the commissioners of the state parkway authority. I can’t say for sure whether this happened or not but I suspect that if he was ever pulled over on that highway the state troopers would have recognized (or been made to understand) that this man was in effect their boss and would have let him off with a warning.

    When one of his sons (the brother of my friend) was a young man he was driving a little English convertible sports car with a young lady as a passenger. There was an accident and the young lady was killed. I really don’t know all of the circumstances but there was no arrest. I’m not sure the same would have been true if I had been the one driving, not that I owned a convertible sports car. At that age, I had an old pickup truck that I bought for $300.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    I suspect if you took an audit, you'd discover that the share of fatal traffic accidents which were followed by a vehicular manslaughter prosecution was in the low single digits.

  168. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    But yes, in general the upward mobility of the Jews was remarkable. I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did. I think it’s hilarious/sad when they interview some illegal alien who has been here for 20 years and the interview is in Spanish because in 20 years said alien hasn’t learned two words of Ingles.
     
    Jack, I suggest you spend a moment and contemplate your own paragraph here.

    While hardly complete, the bookends alone are telling.

    Yeah, America has been very, very good to the Jews.
    The reverse ... uh ... not so much.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @Erik L

    “Yeah, America has been very, very good to the Jews. The reverse … uh … not so much”

    Says you and your ilk. But you won’t do anything of substance to address it.

    It’s quite comical that the wolf continues to ravage an entire flock, and yet those people won’t put up the fence to keep it out entirely, or even shoot it dead. What do they do instead? Remark how the wolf is constantly eating their sheep.

    Go ahead, start your verbal bullshitting. Just whine on … and on … and on. The vast anti-white sense of victimhood. It never gets old.

  169. @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123


    1. There are 30,000 unique parts in an ICE car, 2000 of which are movable.

    By comparison, there are 10,000 unique parts in an EV, 20 of which are movable.
     
    There's all sorts of random anti-EV nonsense, but Stankovic's claim here is still facile.

    Having fewer and far fewer moving parts is indeed a huge advantage. But that advantage should manifest itself in cost. And yet EVs cost more--considerably more--not less.

    At the end of the day it's a question of the full cycle cost--cost of building, cost of operation, including both fueling (energy) and maintenance--which could include a new battery if required--and even potentially the cost of disassembly. And what sort of comfort. convenience and performance you get for that cost--including better performance of EVs, but much slower refueling.

    I expect EVs will win in the end for more or less his overall set of reasons. But it seems to me that for that to happen, there will need to be an improvement in battery technology. Something less expensive and safer than lithium ion, and ideally with faster charging.

    Replies: @Jack D, @That Would Be Telling, @scrivener3, @Bill Jones, @YetAnotherAnon

    I expect EVs will win in the end for more or less his overall set of reasons. But it seems to me that for that to happen, there will need to be an improvement in battery technology. Something less expensive and safer than lithium ion, and ideally with faster charging.

    While it’s still a “lithium iron,” maybe look at the lithium iron phosphate battery. Have been hearing about this chemistry for a few years, and very recently noticed it’s getting a lot of use. As Wikipedia puts it:

    Because of their low cost, high safety, low toxicity, long cycle life and other factors, LFP batteries are finding a number of roles…. As of September 2022, LFP type battery market share for EVs reached 31%, and of that, 68% was from Tesla and Chinese EV maker BYD production alone. Chinese manufacturers currently hold a near monopoly of LFP battery type production. With patents having started to expire in 2022 and the increased demand for cheaper EV batteries, LFP type production is expected to rise further and surpass lithium nickel manganese cobalt oxides (NMC) type batteries in 2028.

    In general principles they also have a lower energy density than the NMC type which is good for safety. Compare to non-rechargeable lithium metal batteries which are good for long life applications like the button cell on a motherboard, frequently can’t be legally shipped by air, that I’ve read have a power density greater than TNT, and have heard from an eyewitness are used to demonstrate to servicemen training to be techs how dangerous what they’re working on can be.

    I still see one very big problem with EVs and hybrids: the fragility of the batteries and their interconnections. As in, “how do you prove all the battery cells etc. are still good after a crash?” Although I’m guessing just now there may be technological solutions, although they’d add to the cost of a battery pack and its controlling electronics.

    In a way this is unfair, because however many parts each of these types of vehicles have, ICEs have had more than a century of refinement and real crash testing compared to modern EVs (early on they were a contender). But that suggests rushing into them headlong is a mistake, even if we can in theory innovate faster today.

  170. But Murphy actually looks more like Oppenheimer than Sam does

    • Agree: fish
  171. @Suburban Dad
    The Manhattan Project-era Jewish scientists were generally a bit embarrassed to be Jewish. They were mainly from upper class German / Western European roots, while in the U.S. the majority of Jews were Yiddish-speaking Eastern European rustics. They saw Jewish religious practice as a pile of time-wasting superstition that they - or in a lot of cases, their families multiple generations back - had shed in favor of secularism.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Anonymous, @BB753

    Yeah uh huh. They were still circumcised, correct?

  172. @Ben Kurtz
    @AnotherDad


    Stop whining and build your own ‘effing university.
     
    Which the Jews did.

    I can think of three right off the top of my head: Yeshiva University in Upper Manhattan, Brandies University in suburban Boston, and Touro College in the New York's outer boroughs.

    There are probably a couple more that I'm forgetting, and these are of course separate from religious seminaries and rabbinical colleges, of which there are many across the land.

    Replies: @Jack D

    AD goes under the assumption that Yale was the WASPs “own” university, which it was not. Early in its history it was a religious seminary but quite soon it became a secular non-profit with students (and donors) from all religions so it did not “belong” to the WASPs or any other group.

  173. Where is Physicist Dave commenting? The guy is intelligent. I think a Nobelist. But we need pattern recognition contra statistics for the Maga Hats…the peak of the comment section is over, because Steve wants to go to main stream. But it is not going to happen.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Gc

    "Where is Physicist Dave commenting? The guy is intelligent."

    Recently he has been doing battle with some other commenters on a Ron Unz open thread. They have been making claims that the planes that flew into buildings on 9/11 were unmanned drones, that the buildings were blown up by small nuclear bombs or various other 9/11 conspiracy theories.

    As a retired physicist, PD finds these conspiracy theorists to be not very well grounded in the scientific knowledge needed when advancing their theories. He thinks it completely plausible that the planes did cause the collapse of the buildings.

    Ron Paul said in a 2007 Republican primary debate that Muslims flew planes into those buildings because we had been meddling in their countries. This blowback theory is one I agree with. We need to stop our meddling in places like Serbia, Iraq or the Ukraine and focus on the serious problems we have in our own country.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  174. @Intelligent Dasein
    @SFG


    though sadly I missed Top Gun: Maverick.
     
    Top Gun: Maverick was an estrogen-soaked rehash of the oldest and lamest themes in moviemaking. It was absolutely awful. If you can make it through the first 10 minutes and watch Tom Cruise safely "eject" from an experimental aircraft that disintegrates while pushing Mach 11, you'll have an idea of how accurate the film is with respect to the physics of aviation. If you then watch him just casually steal an F/A-18 Hornet and gatecrash the test range without anybody being the wiser, you'll know how accurate it was with respect to military practices. And this is all just filler for its extremely thin human-interest story.

    TGM was like watching a woman's idea of what goes on at "airplane camp," where they imagine the fighter pilots behave no differently than the bickering girls they work with at Target.

    Replies: @Shale boi, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anonymous, @SFG

    I tried watching it and stopped after the first few minutes. It’s a small thing, but seeing him drive onto base, on a motorcycle sans helmet, sans safety vest just showed me how silly it was going to be. Anybody who’s actually served knows that you had to have a helmet even in the 80s and in the early 90s they required the safety vest and safety boots to come on base with a motorcycle. And no…it doesn’t matter if you are an O-6. Even a badass O-6. Seems minor, but I knew the thing would just be one orgy of music video silliness, after that little bit. So I turned it off.

    P.s. Had an F-14/F-18 pilot as a roommate in San Diego. And went to the Miramar O-club and all that. (It was OK…cheap booze and occasionally some women…but not as crazy as right after TOpGun came out…we did better in PB/MB actually or having “HammerEx” parties after WestPac that somehow attracted minor Hollywood people down…cameraladies are the wildest.) Best story my roomie told was about “Bug”Roach talking him down onto the deck on a really shitty weather day when they kept sending him around because of the deck being fouled, etc. and then he had to tank…which itself was stressful knowing that he really needed the juice. Told the story to another aviator and he instantly knew who I meant when I said “uh, some insect name LSO”:

    https://theaviationist.com/2021/01/07/cdr-john-bug-roach-a-legendary-fighter-pilot-and-probably-the-greatest-lso-landing-signal-officer-ever/

    P.s.s. I did do three weeks for an exercise on the Nimitz though and it really does look like a movie, with the flame coming out of the jets and all. Or I guess the movies look like what it is.

  175. @Reg Cæsar
    @SFG


    The Israelis are considerably more macho than diaspora Jews...
     
    Who, at least in America, are considerably more "macho" than the cousins they left in Europe. At least if the Schumers and Koches and Bloombergs are any indication. (Or is that just a New York thing? (And LA Clippers owners.))

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Gangsters are macho.

  176. @Ben Kurtz
    @Frau Katze

    Niels Bohr wasn't on the Manhattan Project.

    He spent WWII in occupied Copenhagen after getting all the foreign scientists out of his institute. (Btw, the Danes don't get enough credit for being the cleverest Gentile nationality in Europe - they managed make their country judenrein by shipping all the Jews out of their territory during WWII and they still get thanked for their actions.)

    There was a popular Broadway stage play some years ago about Heisenberg visiting Bohr during the war and trying to convince him to join the Nazi A-bomb project, which Bohr declined to do. (The Munich Project? What should we call it?)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @That Would Be Telling, @Frau Katze, @Gordo, @mc23, @nebulafox

    Niels Bohr wasn’t on the Manhattan Project.

    But famously a “Nicholas Baker” and his son “James Baker” visited Los Alamo, the former a number of times. After first meeting Groves, Einstein, and Pauli credibly per Wikipedia. Perhaps one reason Bohr refused to help the Nazis was that the didn’t believe you could do it “without turning your country into an industrial plant.”

    Of course he would be most familiar with very small scale of Denmark and by American standards the not too big scale of Western to Centeral-ish or so Europe, so when he arrived in the US he noted we’d done exactly that. Albeit I add in smallish tucked away corners like Oak Ridge for U-245 enrichment and Hanford for plutonium production.

    Per (((Otto Robert Frisch))) excellent autobiography, What Little I Remember his son “James” much later also earned a Nobel for difficult work in modeling a nucleus between the low energy level where geometric packing works well and the very excited state where the liquid drop model amazingly works well.

    Frisch was one of the most essential men in the path to the bomb, the first and only? to ask if fast neutrons could work and then calculate it. That book also provides more insight into the criticality accidents at Los Alamos which killed two men, and the one that almost got him, than I’ve ever heard before (Frisch was a world class experimentalist, and trusted to do one of the most dangerous experiments done there). We widely hear the first guy ignored the rule to never work alone, but there was also a formally established one to never, ever, hold a neutron reflector over a near critical mass so that if you dropped it it would kill you….

    He has almost nothing to say about (((Slotin))), partly reading between the lines I think he thought he was bat-shit crazy or worse, which is my conclusion as well. Frisch’s close call happened because the “student” he was working with freaking unplugged the neutron counter, prompting Frisch to lean over the apparatus without being able to directly, immediately realize his body was reflecting neutrons until the counter was plugged back in. It was later calculated he was two seconds from getting a fatal dose….

    If you like Thirty Years Which Shook Physics, (((Fenyman’s))) autobiographies, and/or the first half of Rhodes which covers the development of nuclear physics I highly recommend this short book.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @That Would Be Telling

    He has almost nothing to say about (((Slotin))), partly reading between the lines I think he thought he was bat-shit crazy or worse, which is my conclusion as well.

    Louis Slotin was very lucky because he died just nine days after the radiation exposure. Harry Dahglian, who was fatally exposed to the same "demon core" in 1945, suffered for 30 days before dying.

    Enrico Fermi died in 1954 from stomach cancer at age 53. Shortly before his death he said he believed his illness was from his exposure to radiation. That's possible, though stomach cancer isn't usually a type caused by radiation. Oppenheimer himself died young from throat cancer, but he had been a very heavy smoker for decades.

    Ernest Lawrence died in 1959 from ulcerative colitis. No one thought of any connection at the time, but years later researchers found that the disease indeed can be caused by prolonged radiation exposure. Lawrence also had been notorious among scientists for his lack of concern over radiation safety.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  177. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    But yes, in general the upward mobility of the Jews was remarkable. I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did. I think it’s hilarious/sad when they interview some illegal alien who has been here for 20 years and the interview is in Spanish because in 20 years said alien hasn’t learned two words of Ingles.
     
    Jack, I suggest you spend a moment and contemplate your own paragraph here.

    While hardly complete, the bookends alone are telling.

    Yeah, America has been very, very good to the Jews.
    The reverse ... uh ... not so much.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @Erik L

    Jews have been great for America. The only way to arrive at your conclusion is:

    1. Begin with animus towards the Jews
    2. Complain about any aspect of the country that you can (directly or circuitously) blame on the Jews
    3. Call out the bad behavior of Jews as representative of “The Jews” (while noting that bad behavior by gentiles is just bad behavior of individuals and not reflective of “White People”)
    4. Take for granted all the great contributions and/or assume that in the absence of Jews, the gentiles would have gotten around to it eventually.

    This is also how wokesters reason about generic white people

    • Agree: Jack D
    • Disagree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Erik L


    4. Take for granted all the great contributions and/or assume that in the absence of Jews, the gentiles would have gotten around to it eventually.
     
    Jews aside, it is one of those hypothetical questions that are basically meaningless.

    Without Newton, would modern science eventually be invented by someone else?
    I doubt it.
    Even such a genius like Leibniz couldn't comprehend it: https://faculty.humanities.uci.edu/bjbecker/RevoltingIdeas/leibniz.html


    Einstein's relativity was, despite absurd claims circulating in popular culture, immediately recognized & accepted by all top physicists in the world.

    Not so with Newton's physics.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Erik L

  178. @SafeNow
    As I posted previously, Christopher Nolan, although born a Brit, does Jewish filmmaking: Materialistic, intellectual, with dissension and contentiousness featuring strongly and putting a spring into the heels of the various actors. Thus, the Hollywood Jewish mafia embraced the style and ethos of his work. As did the film critics who worked for the mainstream media, because they knew what was good for them. So that’s how he got away with it.

    Btw, as I detailed before, “Past Lives” is a better film. The Ebert.com panel rated it as the number-two movie of 2023, so it is not just a SafeNow recommendation. Ebert.com placed “Oppenheimer” close behind at number three. (But I personally believe past lives is far better .)

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Muggles, @Corpse Tooth, @Bardon Kaldian, @Wokechoke, @Erik L

    He does good cinema

  179. @Corvinus
    @Art Deco

    “With some exceptions, wealthy people have to pay their traffic tickets like everyone else.”

    Or get 91.6 million dollars to cover legal expenses—the Chubb Corporation, an insurance group, is floating the money to DJT for his most recent case. In 2018, he appointed Chubb’s CEO Evan Greenberg to a White House advisory committee for trade policy and negotiations.

    Nothing to see here…

    Replies: @Art Deco, @AnotherDad

    There actually is nothing to see there.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Art Deco

    "There actually is nothing to see there."

    Right, just a wealthy white person having access to a wealthy JEW to bail them out of legal trouble.

  180. OT — Prediction — People attempting to get aid to Gaza have become frustrated enough to simply send a boat that way. I predict that eventually Israel will interfere in some way, possibly violently, and this will outrage people.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @J.Ross


    " People attempting to get aid to Gaza have become frustrated enough to simply send a boat that way. I predict that eventually Israel will interfere in some way, possibly violently, and this will outrage people."
     
    The Turks sent an aid flotilla there about the last time but three that Israel were killing Palestinians. Israel boarded it and shot a lot of people. You'll note how world outrage has made this event well known.

    It's good to hold the megaphone...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_flotilla_raid


    "The Gaza flotilla raid was a military operation by Israel against six civilian ships of the "Gaza Freedom Flotilla" on 31 May 2010 in international waters in the Mediterranean Sea. Nine of the flotilla passengers were killed during the raid, with thirty wounded (including one who later died of his wounds). Ten Israeli soldiers were wounded, one seriously. The exact sequence of events is contested, in part due to the IDF's confiscation of the passengers' photographic evidence."
     

    Replies: @J.Ross

  181. @Anon
    @AnotherDad

    "Blacks–like Jews–may not find our “diverse” future quite to their liking."
    .
    I live in Southern California and can attest the the ascendant asians, mexicans etc. really don't give ashit about bLack grievance and whining. Only white liberals are weak enough to be manipulated by this group.

    Replies: @Mark G., @Currahee

    Mexicans in particular. They carry no white guilt nonsense and see blacks for exactly what they are:
    animals.

  182. @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    In some European countries, traffic tickets are tied to income so the pain is evenly distributed, but in the US they are not. The pain that a $500 ticket inflicts on a poor person is very different than the impact on someone who is rich.

    When I was growing up I had a friend with a wealthy dad who was always rushing to meetings and liked to speed a lot. Finally he lost his license on "points" and for the duration of the suspension he had a chauffeur. So while he was not able to avoid the law he was able to lessen its impact.

    Later in life he was appointed to be one of the commissioners of the state parkway authority. I can't say for sure whether this happened or not but I suspect that if he was ever pulled over on that highway the state troopers would have recognized (or been made to understand) that this man was in effect their boss and would have let him off with a warning.

    When one of his sons (the brother of my friend) was a young man he was driving a little English convertible sports car with a young lady as a passenger. There was an accident and the young lady was killed. I really don't know all of the circumstances but there was no arrest. I'm not sure the same would have been true if I had been the one driving, not that I owned a convertible sports car. At that age, I had an old pickup truck that I bought for $300.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    I suspect if you took an audit, you’d discover that the share of fatal traffic accidents which were followed by a vehicular manslaughter prosecution was in the low single digits.

  183. The article implies that segregation prevented non-whites from participating in the glamorous and prestigious field of physics.

    Except, I have always assumed that physics only became a prestigious and glamorous field by demonstrating it could make things go boom at a scale that shamed the chemists. Until the atom bomb, wouldn’t those guys have been considered a bunch of nerds?

    No one cares about a field until it becomes glamorous, prestigious, remunerative, but once it does everyone wants their piece. Think about all the dork hobbies that didn’t grow into billion dollar industries. No one complains.

  184. jb says:
    @IHTG

    “Oppenheimer” still easily met the diversity requirements for Best Picture.
     
    How? You ought to have quoted that part.

    Replies: @40 Lashes Less One, @Currahee, @Anon, @jb

    “Oppenheimer” still easily met the diversity requirements for Best Picture.

    It cleared one standard for offscreen hiring because nearly a dozen women held senior positions on the crew, including costume designer, set designer, editor and head hairstylist. At least one senior role was filled by someone from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group: the head of makeup, Luisa Abel, who is Hispanic.

    Even without those hiring decisions, “Oppenheimer” would have qualified. That is because its studio, Universal, has created in-house programs, in-career training and audience development that help satisfy the rules for almost every picture it makes.

    Since 2021, Universal has operated an extensive crew training program for underrepresented individuals. The majority of Universal movies participate, and “Oppenheimer” was no exception.

    Universal, more so than some other studios, also has a diverse marketing and distribution team, including Dwight Caines, the studio’s president of domestic marketing, who is Black. (All of his counterparts at other major studios are white.)

  185. @SafeNow
    As I posted previously, Christopher Nolan, although born a Brit, does Jewish filmmaking: Materialistic, intellectual, with dissension and contentiousness featuring strongly and putting a spring into the heels of the various actors. Thus, the Hollywood Jewish mafia embraced the style and ethos of his work. As did the film critics who worked for the mainstream media, because they knew what was good for them. So that’s how he got away with it.

    Btw, as I detailed before, “Past Lives” is a better film. The Ebert.com panel rated it as the number-two movie of 2023, so it is not just a SafeNow recommendation. Ebert.com placed “Oppenheimer” close behind at number three. (But I personally believe past lives is far better .)

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Muggles, @Corpse Tooth, @Bardon Kaldian, @Wokechoke, @Erik L

    I never realized how great a writer Roger Ebert was until he died. Then I was subjected to his replacements on ebert.com.

    I have no sense whether I agree with their ratings. I just cannot slog through most of their writing.

    I miss Roger and also hate that when you search for him you get so many images of his post cancer appearance. I don’t want to remember him that way. To me he will always be that plump sweater lesbian who wrote so well, and spoke so well.

    Also fuck Gene Siskel for the fat jokes. Roger was trying to be a sport; it was never fair for him to require Roger to ask him to stop.

  186. @prosa123
    @nebulafox

    Fermi fared a lot better (well, other than the "dying young" part) than his fellow Italian physicist Emilio Segre. At the outbreak of war Segre found himself in the US, but as a citizen of a hostile nation was prohibited from any sort of secret work. Knowing that Segre would be a vital asset to the Manhattan Project, Nobel Prize-winning physicist Ernest Lawrence called in all sorts of favors to get Segre cleared to work at Lawrence's Radiation Laboratory at the University of California.

    It was not quite as generous a gesture as it might seem. Knowing that Segre had no other job options, Lawrence proceeded to pay Segre - who was one of the world's top physicists, after all - a shockingly low salary, by some reports less than the facility's janitors earned. For the rest of his life Segre deeply resented Lawrence and the University of California.

    Replies: @Ministry Of Tongues

    For the rest of his life Segre deeply resented Lawrence and the University of California.

    Segre deeply resented everyone.

  187. @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Koval
    Not at Los Alamos but he worked at the Oak Ridge site. He was the one that got away, leaving for the Soviet Union in 1948.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Colin Wright

    …and Wikipedia sneaks in a bit of demonstrably false slander and propaganda.

    ‘…Abram, a carpenter, settled in Sioux City, Iowa, which, at the turn of the 20th century, was home to a sizeable Jewish community of merchants and craftsmen. Many of these settlers moved from Russia, in which Jews had been ruthlessly persecuted under the czar’s anti-Semitic policies and pogroms…’

    ‘the czar’s (whatever happened to ‘tsar’?)…pogroms’ is a flat-out lie. The tsars did their damnedest to prevent pogroms. It’s an utter canard that they fomented them. See Klier.

  188. @prime noticer
    The Hill: DEI killed the CHIPS Act

    now approaching the DIE YT event horizon where America is unable to do anything because the diversity rules swallow any project into a black hole.

    Samsung and Intel halted their projects. TSMC gave up and opened a factory in Japan instead.

    Replies: @res, @Voltarde, @Bill Jones

    HBCUs Taking Bite of Apple’s Chip Engineer Effort
    https://www.eetimes.com/hbcus-taking-bite-of-apples-chip-fab-engineer-effort/

    I’m sure everyone looks forward to iPhones of the future that contain logic and memory semiconductors designed and manufactured by HBCU graduates.

  189. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    there are 10,000 unique parts in an EV, 20 of which are movable.

    This is clearly false. Aside from the motor and the transmission, EVs are largely identical to ICE cars. I can think of at least 20 unique moving parts just in the suspension system and brakes of one wheel of an EV without even trying. Have the people who write this shit ever actually been NEAR a car other than to ride in one? They should stick to bullshitting about things that they actually know about, which is not much.

    As you say, the bottom line is the bottom line - how much it costs to make the car, not the number of parts, movable or otherwise. If one of the non-movable parts of an electric car is the battery assembly and that one battery costs $10,000, that outweighs the cost of 2,000 moving valves and valve springs and pistons and connecting rods and what have you that have a average cost of $2 each.

    That being said, the Chinese are now turning out electric cars that cost LESS than ICE cars. The electric car will win in the end because it will be cheaper to make (and cheaper to drive), but not for the idiotic reasons mentioned.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @epebble

    the Chinese are now turning out electric cars that cost LESS than ICE cars. The electric car will win in the end because it will be cheaper to make (and cheaper to drive)

    “Corolla killer:” BYD launches $US15,000 EV in direct attack on legacy makers:
    https://thedriven.io/2024/02/22/corolla-killer-byd-launches-us15000-ev-in-direct-attack-on-legacy-makers/

    U.S. Automakers are getting the signal and pulling back on their investments.

    Tesla-beating BYD and other Chinese carmakers using Mexico as back door poses ‘extinction-level’ threat to U.S. auto sector, warns trade group:

    https://fortune.com/2024/02/24/chinese-carmakers-evs-mexico-back-door-threat-american-automotive-sector/

  190. @Art Deco
    @Corvinus

    There actually is nothing to see there.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “There actually is nothing to see there.”

    Right, just a wealthy white person having access to a wealthy JEW to bail them out of legal trouble.

  191. @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    Which presbyter did the Rosenbergs attend?

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    I was discussing Klaus Fuchs. I did not say the Rosenbergs weren’t Jews.

  192. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @Mr. Anon

    "It’s amazing that so many people now can’t tell the difference between actual film and CGI."

    Yup, I left that howler* in my list to hook low-IQ suckers like yourself. Care to address my other, real, points?

    *the detonation [sic] of an 'atomic bomb' looks identical to any other large bomb, so film of a test detonation proves only that a large bomb was sploded and nothing more

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    *the detonation [sic] of an ‘atomic bomb’ looks identical to any other large bomb, so film of a test detonation proves only that a large bomb was sploded and nothing more

    No, it doesn’t.

    Okay, so you saw The Mind Benders and think it makes you smart. It doesn’t.

    But do enlighten us on the Van Allen Belts, the Firmament, and the Antarctic Ice Wall. And while your at it, also the Hollow Earth, the Plasma Moon, and the Turtles that are “all the way down”.

  193. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "It’s amazing the Fat Man bomb went off at all without Hidden Figures to check von Neumann’s math."

    It's amazing Uncle Samantha didn't bother filming the first ever military use of atomic bombs.

    It's amazing that damage caused by atomic bombs looks 100% identical to damage caused by Uncle Samantha's sustained firebombing campaigns of Japanese cities.

    It's amazing I can find only CGI reenactments of atomic bomb detonations, but no film or video.

    It's amazing that no one has used an atomic bomb since WWII.

    It's amazing Boomers think atomic bombs are real.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @epebble, @p38ace, @AlmaMater

    It’s amazing that damage caused by atomic bombs looks 100% identical to damage caused by Uncle Samantha’s sustained firebombing campaigns of Japanese cities.

    This:

    Among the long-term effects suffered by atomic bomb survivors, the most deadly was leukemia. An increase in leukemia appeared about two years after the attacks and peaked around four to six years later. Children represent the population that was affected most severely. Attributable risk—the percent difference in the incidence rate of a condition between an exposed population and a comparable unexposed one — reveals how great of an effect radiation had on leukemia incidence. The Radiation Effects Research Foundation estimates the attributable risk of leukemia to be 46% for bomb victims.

    For all other cancers, incidence increase did not appear until around ten years after the attacks. The increase was first noted in 1956 and soon after tumor registries were started in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki to collect data on the excess cancer risks caused by the radiation exposure. The most thorough study regarding the incidence of solid cancer (meaning cancer that is not leukemia) was conducted by a team led by Dale L. Preston of Hirosoft International Corporation and published in 2003. The study estimated the attributable rate of radiation exposure to solid cancer to be significantly lower than that for leukemia—10.7%. According to the RERF, the data corroborates the general rule that even if someone is exposed to a barely survivable whole-body radiation dose, the solid cancer risk will not be more than five times greater than the risk of an unexposed individual.

    Graph of excess relative risk to exposure dose
    Nearly seventy years after the bombings occurred, most of the generation that was alive during the attack has passed away. Now much more attention has turned to the children born to the survivors. Regarding individuals who had been exposed to radiation before birth (in utero), studies, such as one led by E. Nakashima in 1994, have shown that exposure led to increases in small head size and mental disability, as well as impairment in physical growth. Persons exposed in utero were also found to have a lower increase in cancer rate than survivors who were children at the time of the attack.

    https://k1project.columbia.edu/news/hiroshima-and-nagasaki

    didn’t happen to victims of firebombing.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @epebble

    Sadako Will Leben

  194. @Corvinus
    @Art Deco

    “With some exceptions, wealthy people have to pay their traffic tickets like everyone else.”

    Or get 91.6 million dollars to cover legal expenses—the Chubb Corporation, an insurance group, is floating the money to DJT for his most recent case. In 2018, he appointed Chubb’s CEO Evan Greenberg to a White House advisory committee for trade policy and negotiations.

    Nothing to see here…

    Replies: @Art Deco, @AnotherDad

    Nothing to see here…

    There’s plenty to see here, you just don’t want to see it. Ludicrous abuse of the “justice” system for political prosecution.

    The minoritarians have abused the legal system for decades to institute policies they could not get–often would not even have the courage to run on–at the ballot box.

    Now the Parasite Party has moved on to show trials where someone can just make up stuff from decades ago and essentially steal from their political opponents and if you object and say “bullshit” they loot you even more. (We really–any society that wants to survive–needs to stop this ridiculous pampering of women. This woman had her chance to accuse Trump–and Les Moonves (she was apparently smoking hot 50-something rape bait for powerful men in NYC)–of raping way back in whatever year she’s claiming now. Back when there would be store clerks and customers and store video to provide evidence. Women can not simultaneous be “you go girl!” can-do-anything adults and complete helpless children. Pick one.)

    The other NY case, there is no counterparty alleging fraud–no failure to pay premiums or loans by Trump, no bogus claims. Rather officials of the state of NY decide to have a civil prosecution of Trump. Then when other businessmen get worried about the ramifications to this lawlessness, the governor announces basically no don’t worry, we’re just prosecuting Trump.

    We’re in “show me the man, I’ll show you the crime” territory.

    • Agree: Gordo, YetAnotherAnon, mc23
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @AnotherDad

    “There’s plenty to see here, you just don’t want to see it. Ludicrous abuse of the “justice” system for political prosecution.”

    You didn’t get my sarcasm.

    Of course there is plenty to see. Trump gets bailed out by a Jew who may have Kremlin ties.

    Occam’s Razor applies here—A man with a history of hiring shady lawyers and engaging in crooked deals, in which one of his lawyers admitted Trump’s long standing malfeasance, is being brought to justice on multiple fronts.

    , @Guest007
    @AnotherDad

    One may want to ask the jury about the accusations. And since it was a civil trial, the standards was more likely than not. Of course, it does not help that Trump is incapable of testifying at a trial or giving a sane deposition.

  195. @anonymous
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Joan Hinton emigrated to China in 1948 and started working on a dairy farm in Inner Mongolia. She was briefly brought to Beijing in 1952 for the peace conference during the middle of the Korean War. Later on during the 1950s she moved to a dairy farm near Xian. In total she spent 60 years working on dairy farms in China. She was not at all involved in the Chinese nuclear program. As a young scientific assistant at 23 at Los Alamos in 1944, she was probably way too junior to know much.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Thanks. Here she is with her husband in CCP base Yan’an in 1949 and later on the farm

    Her son, Fred Engst or 阳和平 Yáng Hépíng became a professor in China. He has a large following on Bilibili where he takes mostly pro-CCP positions.

    The American commies that went over to side with Chicoms were mainly WASP, not Jewish. The full list is on the ch version of this page.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_friends_of_the_Chinese_people

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Joan Hilton came back to the US in 1978 to go on a speaking tour. Her son Fred spent decades in the US before coming back to China in 2007. It's a fascinating story of a white family in China. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1978/03/12/leaving-the-science-of-destruction-behind/c4542b32-2eda-47c0-9a52-7a13dbaf8160/


    She gives complicated answers to such questions as, "Do you regret that your two oldest sons have no university, indeed, no professional training?" And the sum of 10 minutes discussion on how important it has been for them to work with factory groups is that Hinton is thrilled that under a new system of selection, based in the old academic achievement criteria, so long in disrepute, her 18-year-old daughter Karen has been chosen as a student at Peking University.

    Her oldest son, Fred, strikingly handsome, with his mother's open smile, has been working in a Philadelphia steel mill since 1974. He seems to hang between the two societies. He says he will always be a foreigner in China. "The Chinese always think in terms of ancestors," he comments, "so you are always whatever your ancestor was, so inevitably I am always an American." Custom would frown upon his choice of a Chinese bride. But like his mother, Fred thinks the Chinese have found a more just way of life for the majority. His limited English makes his reasoning seem simplistic, on questions such as, "Having been exposed to a more open society, won't the regimentation of the newspapers, the kinds of goods available, bother you?" i.e. "It works out for the best that way . . . It is certainly better than the commercialism of American publications."
     
  196. @prime noticer
    The Hill: DEI killed the CHIPS Act

    now approaching the DIE YT event horizon where America is unable to do anything because the diversity rules swallow any project into a black hole.

    Samsung and Intel halted their projects. TSMC gave up and opened a factory in Japan instead.

    Replies: @res, @Voltarde, @Bill Jones

    Thanks. I had no idea the CHIPS Act was that bad. The worst is what do you want to bet all of the DIE dreck happens without actually building more fabs?

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @res


    Thanks. I had no idea the CHIPS Act was that bad.
     
    You probably didn't because every word "prime noticer" said was a lie (there's a reason he's "Ignored" by myself except here to find out what you were replying to).

    Let me very lightly edit and copy my essays on this article from the Fediverse:

    There's many complexities involved.Japan is a total zero when it comes to offering foundry services today. This might have something to do with how difficult they make it to do business with them, see for example their temporary success with DRAM which is a bog standard commodity. They did do competitive gate arrays back in the day, but that's also something of a commodity, a sea of logic, the company fab that first and then only add metal connections on top to lay out the circuity of what it'll do. See the first Sun SPARC chip from 1986.

    And the government totally blocked TSMC from setting up a foundry in Japan for years.

    What's happening now, with some necessary and better than in Arizona support from the Japanese government, is doing dual ventures with Japanese companies who still have leadership positions in sensors, at the high end for example imaging ones. Since Japan is also a zero for high end logic nodes if those Japanese companies aren't to fail hard in the long term they have to bring in someone to help, and TSMC is the best in the world by far, and is also trustworthy, the two are very much connected.

    So first, don't trust this The Hill article. For example:

    This is not the way companies typically respond to multi-billion-dollar subsidies. So what explains chipmakers’ apparent ingratitude? In large part, frustration with DEI requirements embedded in the CHIPS Act.
     
    That's due to current market conditions which are no so good, not so much money to earn after 2023 was go, go go (this doesn't extend to Nvidia and "AI" of course). And here's a huge flub.

    Intel is also building fabs in Poland and Israel....
     
    As usual, liars don't expect you to click through to their links, Poland is getting a low-ish value "assembly and test facility" and Israel already has cutting edge Intel fab lines (see below for why they'd build another there as well as Ireland, and not Ohio).

    OK, back to reality: demand from US customers like the DoD is likely to push through TSMC's first and maybe second fab line in Arizona, but they won't be TSMC cutting edge, they'll stop being able to fabricate new designs if Xi takes Taiwan, and they won't produce many wafers per unit of time (first twenty thousand per month??).

    That said, diversity has been a near killer for the US in high end logic. To set the stage:

    * Global Foundries, the AMD spinoff of its fabs, has never brought their own CMOS node to high volume production, and bowed out of the game a while ago stopping with a Samsung licensed 14 nm one.

    * Samsung has terrible trust problems, including lying to each other inside the company as Intel also does. And are infamous for being the first to announce a new node and the last to get it to high volume production. Also not a pure play, and they have a history of stealing info from their foundry customers for their own stuff.

    * Intel was almost killed by diversity....

    Intel as our home grown, very very pioneering company from the start, has long had very bad high level engineering management (ask for details) but not in production after their DRAM debacle in the 1980s. This became near fatal when CEO Brian Krzanich starting in mid-2013 fired too many fucking white males needed to move to their "10 nm" node after they'd had a very difficult initial time as the first to 14 nm. He also gutted their verification function in the name of "velocity."

    Intel's crown jewel has been its cutting edge logic fabs, your in theory better architecture is nothing if Intel is 1-2 generations ahead of you in what it can put on a die.

    Krzanich was also very very big on diversity and you can see that emphasis to this day. Back then he put a pajeet who's only skill was sucking up to his superiors in charge of "10 nm." Which was years late, and only very recently is working well enough as "Intel 7" which aligned their naming system with Samsung and TSMC.

    And that verification function has been a less obvious terrible drag on the company, it's extremely expensive in time and money, and time is money, to fabricate a new stepping of a design, plug it in, and find out it doesn't work.... There's also a credible rumor Skylake, the first microarchitecture done under Krzanich, was so buggy that was the last straw for Apple to abandon Intel for Macs.

    Me, I stuck with Sandy/Ivy bridge for over a decade, and only just now bought a Raptor Lake (slight iteration on Alder Lake) system after for example reading its errata sheet (well, I normally do that...). Which had some really bad shit which they did fix else no one would be buying them, the "won't fix" stuff is mostly edge cases like running in debugging mode, or bad things happening if you try to step past the end of 32 bit virtual memory ("Don't do that!").

    OK, so Intel is in literally existential danger as long as Xi doesn't destroy TSMC's fabs in Taiwan. Heck, they're even shipping CPUs with one or more Intel CPU chiplets and the rest, GPU and IO is TSMC, and evidently one future model will 100% TSMC with a CPU they'll fabricate.

    Having fallen so far behind ... but this is a declining market at the moment!

    There's a reason besides AMD's DNA of routinely screwing up that they recently spent a lot of wealth to buying the leading FPGA company rather than pouring those resources into x86 chips or GPGPUs before "AI" became a monster. See also the still ongoing disaster of it buying GPU company ATI; like almost all companies not named Nvidia they don't have what it takes in software or ecosystems to compete in AI, also put a pajeet in charge of that, who then moved to Intel and has now moved on....

    OK, the point of the above is that to be competitive, Intel needs to be fabricating a lot of wafers, that's how you learn to do it well and cheaply. So again they're trying to set up a foundry to get volume with other's designs, we'll see if that works but I don't hear about the current CEO firing the scads of managers needed to fix Intel's severe cultural problems. Nor do I judge it likely he'll deliver the "five nodes in four years" AKA 5N4Y, how can you predict that after stepping on your dick for half a decade and his being slow on the uptake about that?? He's design, not fabrication....

    And, yeah, the CHIPS act, especially under "Biden," moves at current government speed, and has so many strings attached ... it hasn't accomplished anything serious to this date even though it's been in theory operating for a while. Some very small grants to microcontroller companies, and only now they've announced some bigger stuff. In theory.

    Putting fabs in Ohio would be totally political because you also need to have your vendors for Wafer Fab Equipment (WEF), from lithography to processing set up shop next door. That's why everyone keeps building new fabs in the same general locations, from Arizona to Ireland to Israel to Oregon to Taiwan to Texas to various locations in Korea.

    And, yeah, you need a lot of very smart, highly trained people willing to work in bunny suits for long shifts to run these fabs. Starting with Reagan's pick of (((Erich Bloch,))) not a scientist, did not have a Ph.D., for the head of the National Science Foundation (NSF), the US has been on a total jihad to replace relatively expensive native whites with cheaper Third World foreigners to do our scientific labor, at the same time claiming we don't have enough people.

    People at the low, low price our betters prefer to pay them. Except people from these cultures don't score high in honesty, and while you can wildly cheat in SCIENCE!!! research, you can't fool Mother Nature in engineering, "people expect results" which didn't happen with Intel's "10 nm."

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  197. @B36
    The obvious way that "Oppenheimer" could have been made more diverse would have been to add Japanese actors portraying ordinary people going about their lives on what would be their last day.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Wokechoke

    Is there a drama that does what you describe?

    • Replies: @Tex
    @Wokechoke

    Hiroshima, by John Hersey. It never got made into a big screen blockbuster. The Atomic Cafe will have to serve.

  198. @Colin Wright
    @Jack D


    'I kid. The real spy at Los Alamos was Fuchs who was a Lutheran Aryan. It’s always the one you suspect the least. Aldrich Ames. Robert Hanssen. Whitaker Chambers. Kim Philby. Real spies don’t attend Communist Party meetings that are infiltrated by the FBI.'
     
    JackD reveals: not all spies have been Jews.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Wielgus, @res, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    JackD reveals: not all spies have been Jews.

    And breaking news: not all Jews are spies.

    • LOL: Muggles
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @res


    'JackD reveals: not all spies have been Jews.

    And breaking news: not all Jews are spies.'
     
    What's perhaps at least as irritating is the Jewish reluctance to condemn Jewish misbehavior.

    Jonathan Pollard wasn't so bad. Ethel and Julius Rosenberg were practically martyrs. Harry Dexter White -- he was Jewish?

    On the other hand, how's the Aldritch Ames fan club doing?
  199. res says:
    @J.Ross
    @Steve Sailer

    Derb is right that it should be a letter and not a campaign stumping. But this was a train wreck.

    Replies: @res

    Derb is right that it should be a letter and not a campaign stumping. But this was a train wreck.

    As it was for over a century.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_the_Union#History

    George Washington delivered the first regular annual message before a joint session of Congress on January 8, 1790, in New York City, then the provisional U.S. capital. In 1801, Thomas Jefferson discontinued the practice of delivering the address in person, regarding it as too monarchical (similar to the Speech from the Throne). Instead, the address was written and then sent to Congress to be read by a clerk until 1913 when Woodrow Wilson re-established the practice despite some initial controversy, and an in-person address to Congress has been delivered nearly every year since. However, there have been exceptions to this rule, with some messages being given solely in writing, and others given both in writing and orally (either in a speech to Congress or through broadcast media).[10] The last president to give a written message without a spoken address was Jimmy Carter in 1981, days before his term ended after his defeat by Ronald Reagan.[10]

    P.S. Just how many bad ideas did Woodrow Wilson originate? More and more his election looks like the crucial event leading to The Current Year. Indirectly attributable to TR and his 1912 run as a progressive (hmm, interesting juxtaposition there).

    • Agree: Mr. Anon
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @res

    One day you realize that academia has always been a disease-producing cesspit.

    , @nebulafox
    @res

    I’d recommend Zelikow’s book “Road Not Taken” to get into the nitty-gritty details of how America entered the war right after nearly meditating an end to it. Counterfactual history is always a dicey game, but it’s really difficult to see the Western Front ending in anything other than a negotiated deal without American entry. Sure, the Central Powers were starving, but the UK was dead broke and reliant on Wall Street. France’s military would revolt after the Nievelle Offensive, over a year before Germany’s and right as Russia’s was. It would be nipped in the bud, but they would only tolerate defensive warfare from then on out until the Americans arrived. In a world where they never did…

    (The “democratization” of European militaries during WWI due to the decimation-and in some countries, discrediting-of the prewar aristocracies is something that needs a book. Early Nazism is impossible to understand without this IMO, as is the Russian Civil War and its brutality.)

    Most importantly, Germany would have no reason to deviate from the post-Alberich defensive warfare (itself a backlash against follies like Verdun) in the West that worked reasonably well for them in 1917. It was the Easter Offensive that broke the back of the German military, and that was launched precisely because they knew a million Americans were coming. And the whole history of static warfare shows that he who remains on the defensive has the edge.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Wokechoke

    , @nebulafox
    @res

    PS:

    But then, if the war continued, maybe Bolshevism would have been a lot more appealing to the general public…

    I guess God crafted special relativity for a reason. Look forward and take things better this time.

  200. Am I the only one who thought that Oppenheimer was just a very generic Oscar-bait biopic?

    • Replies: @Guest007
    @Ian Smith

    Everyone who says that an award winning movie is bad or mediocre should then have to list five movies made since 2000 that they would consider outstanding. One everyone knows what a person considers good, then we can truly evaluate the opinion.

    Replies: @Ian Smith

  201. Anon[301] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve, there’s apparently a way for NYT subscribers to obtain links that their non-subscribing blog readers can access for free. Ann Althouse does this.

    By the way, there’s a piece now up at the Times where you can interactively play with college admissions data to design ways to get around the affirmative action ban. It lets you set hypothetical policies that give a leg up to low family income, poor high schools, and so on and see how many more blacks would get in, and where they would fall SAT-wise. It vindicates Any Wax: none in the top 10 percent, few in the to p 50 percent, and a clustering in the bottom 10 percent.

  202. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Anon

    I used to think that Steve was being clever, but now, I'm beginning to think that he really is confused about why certain things happen.

    Despite almost daily mocking of the MSM, Steve never asks who pays for all of this silliness. I think willful ignorance is a prerequisite for Steve's class.

    I mean, Charles Murray recently tweeted that he couldn't think of one negative thing about Jews being allowed to rise to their level of prominence over the past 200 years. Not one.

    Steve lives in that same world.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @mc23, @Renard

    Ron Unz is more realistic. European Jewish exceptionalism is off the charts in the 20th century both for better and worse.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/gaza-and-the-dangers-of-jewish-paranoia/#:~:text=Meanwhile%2C%20all%20historians,gasping%20in%20awe.

  203. @Ben Kurtz
    @Frau Katze

    Niels Bohr wasn't on the Manhattan Project.

    He spent WWII in occupied Copenhagen after getting all the foreign scientists out of his institute. (Btw, the Danes don't get enough credit for being the cleverest Gentile nationality in Europe - they managed make their country judenrein by shipping all the Jews out of their territory during WWII and they still get thanked for their actions.)

    There was a popular Broadway stage play some years ago about Heisenberg visiting Bohr during the war and trying to convince him to join the Nazi A-bomb project, which Bohr declined to do. (The Munich Project? What should we call it?)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @That Would Be Telling, @Frau Katze, @Gordo, @mc23, @nebulafox

    Re: Niels Bohr

    According to Wikipedia:

    In September 1943 word reached Bohr that he was about to be arrested by the Germans, so he fled to Sweden. From there, he was flown to Britain, where he joined the British Tube Alloys nuclear weapons project, and was part of the British mission to the Manhattan Project.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niels_Bohr

    • Replies: @Ben Kurtz
    @Frau Katze

    So... Manhattan Project adjacent...

    Close enough counts in horseshoes, at least.

  204. @res
    @J.Ross


    Derb is right that it should be a letter and not a campaign stumping. But this was a train wreck.
     
    As it was for over a century.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_the_Union#History

    George Washington delivered the first regular annual message before a joint session of Congress on January 8, 1790, in New York City, then the provisional U.S. capital. In 1801, Thomas Jefferson discontinued the practice of delivering the address in person, regarding it as too monarchical (similar to the Speech from the Throne). Instead, the address was written and then sent to Congress to be read by a clerk until 1913 when Woodrow Wilson re-established the practice despite some initial controversy, and an in-person address to Congress has been delivered nearly every year since. However, there have been exceptions to this rule, with some messages being given solely in writing, and others given both in writing and orally (either in a speech to Congress or through broadcast media).[10] The last president to give a written message without a spoken address was Jimmy Carter in 1981, days before his term ended after his defeat by Ronald Reagan.[10]
     
    P.S. Just how many bad ideas did Woodrow Wilson originate? More and more his election looks like the crucial event leading to The Current Year. Indirectly attributable to TR and his 1912 run as a progressive (hmm, interesting juxtaposition there).

    Replies: @J.Ross, @nebulafox, @nebulafox

    One day you realize that academia has always been a disease-producing cesspit.

  205. @BB753
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Churchill was bluffing. The British empire was already a shadow of what it used to be, and no match on its own against Germany or Japan. Even the US was not ready, in the early stages in the war, to fight Germany. That is why the USSR did most of the heavy lifting in the European front.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Churchill said that after Pearl Harbour, when he realised that the USA, Brit Empire, plus Russia, fighting together for their lives, were 2 or 3 times stronger – in economic terms and in population terms.

    British Empire in 1941 was actually nearly as large as it had ever been.

    “How the war might end I did not know, nor did I at this moment care… we might not even have to die as individuals…I slept the sleep of the saved and thankful”.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The Empire was large but its armed forces not up to par with Japan ( see Singapore) or Germany ( see Dunkirk).

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  206. @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123


    1. There are 30,000 unique parts in an ICE car, 2000 of which are movable.

    By comparison, there are 10,000 unique parts in an EV, 20 of which are movable.
     
    There's all sorts of random anti-EV nonsense, but Stankovic's claim here is still facile.

    Having fewer and far fewer moving parts is indeed a huge advantage. But that advantage should manifest itself in cost. And yet EVs cost more--considerably more--not less.

    At the end of the day it's a question of the full cycle cost--cost of building, cost of operation, including both fueling (energy) and maintenance--which could include a new battery if required--and even potentially the cost of disassembly. And what sort of comfort. convenience and performance you get for that cost--including better performance of EVs, but much slower refueling.

    I expect EVs will win in the end for more or less his overall set of reasons. But it seems to me that for that to happen, there will need to be an improvement in battery technology. Something less expensive and safer than lithium ion, and ideally with faster charging.

    Replies: @Jack D, @That Would Be Telling, @scrivener3, @Bill Jones, @YetAnotherAnon

    I expect EVs will win in the end for more or less his overall set of reasons. But it seems to me that for that to happen, there will need to be an improvement in battery technology. Something less expensive and safer than lithium ion, and ideally with faster charging.

    Good. So I hope that the working man who hauls tools to thejob site in a large pickup truck can finally stop making carbon credit payments to Telsa drivers who have an ICE vehicle or 2 in their garage to actually get around when they need to.

  207. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @Bardon Kaldian

    'I don’t think there is such thing as “Jewish filmmaking”.'

    So, so wrong. Jews love making films where people stand around talking at or screaming at each other and there is no plot. Nothing happens. Often there are no scene changes. Preferably including lots of gratuitous and excessive profanity. Unwatchable bilge - unless you're a jew, I spose.

    Replies: @International Jew, @Bardon Kaldian, @Ministry Of Tongues, @Jack D

    So, so wrong. Jews love making films where people stand around talking at or screaming at each other and there is no plot.Nothing happens. Often there are no scene changes.

    Erich von Stroheim, Sergei Eisenstein, Fritz Lang, William Wyler, Billy Wilder, Roman Polanski, Steven Spielberg, William Friedkin,..?

  208. @Ben Kurtz
    @Frau Katze

    Niels Bohr wasn't on the Manhattan Project.

    He spent WWII in occupied Copenhagen after getting all the foreign scientists out of his institute. (Btw, the Danes don't get enough credit for being the cleverest Gentile nationality in Europe - they managed make their country judenrein by shipping all the Jews out of their territory during WWII and they still get thanked for their actions.)

    There was a popular Broadway stage play some years ago about Heisenberg visiting Bohr during the war and trying to convince him to join the Nazi A-bomb project, which Bohr declined to do. (The Munich Project? What should we call it?)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @That Would Be Telling, @Frau Katze, @Gordo, @mc23, @nebulafox

    Nonsense, Bohr flew from Sweden to UK in the bomb bay of a Mosquito, falling unconscious on the way because he forgot to put his oxygen mask on, then on to New Mexico.

    Heisenberg asked Bohr in Copenhagen to send a message to physicists in the West that he was crippling the German program and asked that Bohr persuade them to do likewise. Bohr disbelieved Heisenberg and backed the bomb.

    Cue Heisenberg haters, but remember Heisenberg refused all weapons work post WWII, and during the 3rd Reich was accused of being a’White Jew’ in Schwartz Korp. He had a quiet courage.

    And I can see why that would offend some people.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Gordo

    Unfortunately you're spreading nonsense about Heisenberg, taking at face value his post-WWII claims about the German nuclear program which he became head of.

    Unfortunately for him, he was snapped up by the Manhattan Project part of Operation Paperclip, and sequestered in a bugged facility with a bunch of people who were under him plus the radiochemist Otto Hahn who'd got it all going by providing evidence for the fission of uranium.

    So we have in what's said to be it's best, annotated form Hitler's Uranium Club: The Secret Recordings at Farm Hall which I've read. See also Rhodes for details about how the prospect of a bomb failed due to technical and clerical incompetence plus the urgency of the war, but the bottom line is that Heisenberg very much wasn't an Oppenheimer and was completely at sea on both that and reactors.

    Well, until they heard about Hiroshima, stumbled around for a bit, then figured out Otto Robert Frisch's fast neutron insight and how a practical bomb could work. But before then Heisenberg and his colleagues had no idea whatsoever that an atomic bomb would be practical, and futilely tried to harness uranium for power, which Germany desperately needed.

    (The most important bit of technical incompetence was giving up too early on purifying graphite of neutron poisons, which the US found to be very hard, and the clerical of sending out the wrong set of invitations to Nazi bigwigs who might have otherwise given them serious support.)

  209. It’s amazing the Fat Man bomb went off at all

    Ahem! That’s “body positive” to you.

  210. There is something I did not think of and haven’t seen anyone else bring up. There is, roughly, an “Obamist” ideology, which is not exactly the same thing as “woke,” and which partially contradicts woke. As an American form of Stalinist propaganda policy, it focuses on those versions and episodes of American government history which the followers have decided are good. Thus for example the Union in the Civil War is a good subject. Back when NPR was trying every hour to insinuate that Trump worked for Putin the way Biden clearly serves Xi, they aired a serialized radio play about a federal government investigation into a disloyal conspiracy during the Civil War or Reconstruction period. The main characters were of course white men and this wasn’t a problem. Recalling the statue mania, for the same reasons, our great national healing which saw the erection of statues to Southerners is not an acceptable topic. Another good subject is the space program, but Hidden Figures shows the blending of this idea with nascent wokism, and I guess Hamilton would be a kind of climactic resolution of how you praise the American government without reminding people which sort of person was responsible for it.
    So white men are tolerable, even after woke, if they’re top white men dedicated to the large-scale violent destruction of badwhites.

  211. @Gc
    Where is Physicist Dave commenting? The guy is intelligent. I think a Nobelist. But we need pattern recognition contra statistics for the Maga Hats...the peak of the comment section is over, because Steve wants to go to main stream. But it is not going to happen.

    Replies: @Mark G.

    “Where is Physicist Dave commenting? The guy is intelligent.”

    Recently he has been doing battle with some other commenters on a Ron Unz open thread. They have been making claims that the planes that flew into buildings on 9/11 were unmanned drones, that the buildings were blown up by small nuclear bombs or various other 9/11 conspiracy theories.

    As a retired physicist, PD finds these conspiracy theorists to be not very well grounded in the scientific knowledge needed when advancing their theories. He thinks it completely plausible that the planes did cause the collapse of the buildings.

    Ron Paul said in a 2007 Republican primary debate that Muslims flew planes into those buildings because we had been meddling in their countries. This blowback theory is one I agree with. We need to stop our meddling in places like Serbia, Iraq or the Ukraine and focus on the serious problems we have in our own country.

    • Agree: mc23
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Mark G.

    Ron Paul said in a 2007 Republican primary debate that Muslims flew planes into those buildings because we had been meddling in their countries.
    ==
    Paul's conclusions are ever in his premises.

  212. but it’s almost 100% certain that he’s a Hindu, and a particularly dim-witted and ignorant one, who happens to be an absolutely pathological liar.

    LOL. You have no evidence of this other that about 10 of my 3000+ comments, all of which were over 5 years ago. Your other ‘proof’ is your own comments, which don’t qualify as a ‘source’. No wonder you are such an infamously poor researcher (“Covid was a bioweapon attack by the US against China; my source is my own opinion!!”, etc.)

    Fail.

    You are still, after all these years, extremely humiliated that I schooled you on basics of US history that you claimed to be knowledgeable about. Instead, I exposed you as being comically and cartoonishly ignorant (which was easy to do).

    Tee hee..

  213. Maybe Nolan can make a movie about this:

    “UNRWA report says Israel coerced some agency employees to falsely admit Hamas links”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/unrwa-report-says-israel-coerced-some-agency-employees-to-falsely-admit-hamas-links/ar-BB1jzR5h

    Deep in the bowels of the report:

    including beatings, humiliation, threats, dog attacks, sexual violence, and deaths of detainees denied medical treatment, the UNRWA report said.

    So Torture and Murder is now coercion if the Israelis do it.

    There’s a word for this.

  214. anonymous[272] • Disclaimer says:
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @anonymous

    Thanks. Here she is with her husband in CCP base Yan'an in 1949 and later on the farm

    https://imagepphcloud.thepaper.cn/pph/image/181/209/932.png

    https://imagepphcloud.thepaper.cn/pph/image/181/211/364.png

    Her son, Fred Engst or 阳和平 Yáng Hépíng became a professor in China. He has a large following on Bilibili where he takes mostly pro-CCP positions.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h1Gm85biBs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQTPdb3cwRQ

    The American commies that went over to side with Chicoms were mainly WASP, not Jewish. The full list is on the ch version of this page.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_friends_of_the_Chinese_people

    Replies: @anonymous

    Joan Hilton came back to the US in 1978 to go on a speaking tour. Her son Fred spent decades in the US before coming back to China in 2007. It’s a fascinating story of a white family in China. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1978/03/12/leaving-the-science-of-destruction-behind/c4542b32-2eda-47c0-9a52-7a13dbaf8160/

    She gives complicated answers to such questions as, “Do you regret that your two oldest sons have no university, indeed, no professional training?” And the sum of 10 minutes discussion on how important it has been for them to work with factory groups is that Hinton is thrilled that under a new system of selection, based in the old academic achievement criteria, so long in disrepute, her 18-year-old daughter Karen has been chosen as a student at Peking University.

    Her oldest son, Fred, strikingly handsome, with his mother’s open smile, has been working in a Philadelphia steel mill since 1974. He seems to hang between the two societies. He says he will always be a foreigner in China. “The Chinese always think in terms of ancestors,” he comments, “so you are always whatever your ancestor was, so inevitably I am always an American.” Custom would frown upon his choice of a Chinese bride. But like his mother, Fred thinks the Chinese have found a more just way of life for the majority. His limited English makes his reasoning seem simplistic, on questions such as, “Having been exposed to a more open society, won’t the regimentation of the newspapers, the kinds of goods available, bother you?” i.e. “It works out for the best that way . . . It is certainly better than the commercialism of American publications.”

  215. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @Bardon Kaldian

    'I don’t think there is such thing as “Jewish filmmaking”.'

    So, so wrong. Jews love making films where people stand around talking at or screaming at each other and there is no plot. Nothing happens. Often there are no scene changes. Preferably including lots of gratuitous and excessive profanity. Unwatchable bilge - unless you're a jew, I spose.

    Replies: @International Jew, @Bardon Kaldian, @Ministry Of Tongues, @Jack D

    And yet somehow many of those Jew films met the test of the market.

  216. @prime noticer
    The Hill: DEI killed the CHIPS Act

    now approaching the DIE YT event horizon where America is unable to do anything because the diversity rules swallow any project into a black hole.

    Samsung and Intel halted their projects. TSMC gave up and opened a factory in Japan instead.

    Replies: @res, @Voltarde, @Bill Jones

    Thanks for that link.

    This piece made me smile “Taiwan, which China is preparing to annex by 2027”

    How can China annex territory which is Internationally recognized as part of China?

    Including, btw, on the US State Dept’s own website. You remember the One China Policy, don’t you.

    Every single piece from the US media is stock full of lies and bullshit.

  217. @Ben Kurtz
    @Frau Katze

    Niels Bohr wasn't on the Manhattan Project.

    He spent WWII in occupied Copenhagen after getting all the foreign scientists out of his institute. (Btw, the Danes don't get enough credit for being the cleverest Gentile nationality in Europe - they managed make their country judenrein by shipping all the Jews out of their territory during WWII and they still get thanked for their actions.)

    There was a popular Broadway stage play some years ago about Heisenberg visiting Bohr during the war and trying to convince him to join the Nazi A-bomb project, which Bohr declined to do. (The Munich Project? What should we call it?)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @That Would Be Telling, @Frau Katze, @Gordo, @mc23, @nebulafox

    I read an article recently by someone who’s family had escaped the German sweep to round up the Danish Jews that the deputy head of the SS, Werner Best, played a major role in the escape of Danish Jews for reasons that aren’t clear.

    When the extent of the failure of the round-up became apparent, Hitler telegrammed Best ordering him to explain himself. He responded that he had done as he had been ordered – he had made Denmark Judenrein.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-45919900

  218. @res
    @Colin Wright


    JackD reveals: not all spies have been Jews.
     
    And breaking news: not all Jews are spies.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘JackD reveals: not all spies have been Jews.

    And breaking news: not all Jews are spies.’

    What’s perhaps at least as irritating is the Jewish reluctance to condemn Jewish misbehavior.

    Jonathan Pollard wasn’t so bad. Ethel and Julius Rosenberg were practically martyrs. Harry Dexter White — he was Jewish?

    On the other hand, how’s the Aldritch Ames fan club doing?

  219. @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123


    1. There are 30,000 unique parts in an ICE car, 2000 of which are movable.

    By comparison, there are 10,000 unique parts in an EV, 20 of which are movable.
     
    There's all sorts of random anti-EV nonsense, but Stankovic's claim here is still facile.

    Having fewer and far fewer moving parts is indeed a huge advantage. But that advantage should manifest itself in cost. And yet EVs cost more--considerably more--not less.

    At the end of the day it's a question of the full cycle cost--cost of building, cost of operation, including both fueling (energy) and maintenance--which could include a new battery if required--and even potentially the cost of disassembly. And what sort of comfort. convenience and performance you get for that cost--including better performance of EVs, but much slower refueling.

    I expect EVs will win in the end for more or less his overall set of reasons. But it seems to me that for that to happen, there will need to be an improvement in battery technology. Something less expensive and safer than lithium ion, and ideally with faster charging.

    Replies: @Jack D, @That Would Be Telling, @scrivener3, @Bill Jones, @YetAnotherAnon

    He fails to mention that those moving parts of the EV’s only move about 20% of the time you want them to.

  220. @That Would Be Telling
    @Ben Kurtz


    Niels Bohr wasn’t on the Manhattan Project.
     
    But famously a "Nicholas Baker" and his son "James Baker" visited Los Alamo, the former a number of times. After first meeting Groves, Einstein, and Pauli credibly per Wikipedia. Perhaps one reason Bohr refused to help the Nazis was that the didn't believe you could do it "without turning your country into an industrial plant."

    Of course he would be most familiar with very small scale of Denmark and by American standards the not too big scale of Western to Centeral-ish or so Europe, so when he arrived in the US he noted we'd done exactly that. Albeit I add in smallish tucked away corners like Oak Ridge for U-245 enrichment and Hanford for plutonium production.

    Per (((Otto Robert Frisch))) excellent autobiography, What Little I Remember his son "James" much later also earned a Nobel for difficult work in modeling a nucleus between the low energy level where geometric packing works well and the very excited state where the liquid drop model amazingly works well.

    Frisch was one of the most essential men in the path to the bomb, the first and only? to ask if fast neutrons could work and then calculate it. That book also provides more insight into the criticality accidents at Los Alamos which killed two men, and the one that almost got him, than I've ever heard before (Frisch was a world class experimentalist, and trusted to do one of the most dangerous experiments done there). We widely hear the first guy ignored the rule to never work alone, but there was also a formally established one to never, ever, hold a neutron reflector over a near critical mass so that if you dropped it it would kill you....

    He has almost nothing to say about (((Slotin))), partly reading between the lines I think he thought he was bat-shit crazy or worse, which is my conclusion as well. Frisch's close call happened because the "student" he was working with freaking unplugged the neutron counter, prompting Frisch to lean over the apparatus without being able to directly, immediately realize his body was reflecting neutrons until the counter was plugged back in. It was later calculated he was two seconds from getting a fatal dose....

    If you like Thirty Years Which Shook Physics, (((Fenyman's))) autobiographies, and/or the first half of Rhodes which covers the development of nuclear physics I highly recommend this short book.

    Replies: @prosa123

    He has almost nothing to say about (((Slotin))), partly reading between the lines I think he thought he was bat-shit crazy or worse, which is my conclusion as well.

    Louis Slotin was very lucky because he died just nine days after the radiation exposure. Harry Dahglian, who was fatally exposed to the same “demon core” in 1945, suffered for 30 days before dying.

    Enrico Fermi died in 1954 from stomach cancer at age 53. Shortly before his death he said he believed his illness was from his exposure to radiation. That’s possible, though stomach cancer isn’t usually a type caused by radiation. Oppenheimer himself died young from throat cancer, but he had been a very heavy smoker for decades.

    Ernest Lawrence died in 1959 from ulcerative colitis. No one thought of any connection at the time, but years later researchers found that the disease indeed can be caused by prolonged radiation exposure. Lawrence also had been notorious among scientists for his lack of concern over radiation safety.

    • Thanks: Frau Katze
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @prosa123

    There's an interesting paper on the history of X-rays, sterility, and medical reactions to it. Early x-ray operators became sterile after repeated exposures.


    In the 1900s, gonad shielding was first applied to prevent male sterility, but was discontinued when instrumental developments led to reduced radiation doses. In the 1950s, concerns about hereditary risks intensified and gonad shielding was recommended again, becoming routine worldwide. Imaging-chain improvements over time were considerable: in 2018, the absorbed dose was 0.5% of its 1905 value for the testes and 2% for the ovaries
     
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7005227/
  221. @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123


    1. There are 30,000 unique parts in an ICE car, 2000 of which are movable.

    By comparison, there are 10,000 unique parts in an EV, 20 of which are movable.
     
    There's all sorts of random anti-EV nonsense, but Stankovic's claim here is still facile.

    Having fewer and far fewer moving parts is indeed a huge advantage. But that advantage should manifest itself in cost. And yet EVs cost more--considerably more--not less.

    At the end of the day it's a question of the full cycle cost--cost of building, cost of operation, including both fueling (energy) and maintenance--which could include a new battery if required--and even potentially the cost of disassembly. And what sort of comfort. convenience and performance you get for that cost--including better performance of EVs, but much slower refueling.

    I expect EVs will win in the end for more or less his overall set of reasons. But it seems to me that for that to happen, there will need to be an improvement in battery technology. Something less expensive and safer than lithium ion, and ideally with faster charging.

    Replies: @Jack D, @That Would Be Telling, @scrivener3, @Bill Jones, @YetAnotherAnon

    “I expect EVs will win in the end for more or less his overall set of reasons.”

    When you make things in vast quantities, the price drops a lot.

    You can get a 50mp camera in a £120 phone these days. Millions are sold. But a 50mp sensor in a mirrorless camera with a decent zoom lens costs maybe 10 times that. Not so many people buy them.

    • Replies: @res
    @YetAnotherAnon


    You can get a 50mp camera in a £120 phone these days. Millions are sold. But a 50mp sensor in a mirrorless camera with a decent zoom lens costs maybe 10 times that. Not so many people buy them.
     
    Worth noting that the sensor sizes are very different. Though phone sensors are getting larger. Megapixels is far from the only spec which matters (as much as the phone camera makers would have you think otherwise).
    https://www.eoshd.com/news/smartphones-and-their-growing-threat-to-mirrorless-cameras-2022-edition/

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @YetAnotherAnon

  222. res says:
    @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    there are 10,000 unique parts in an EV, 20 of which are movable.
     
    You'll note I didn't parrot his specific claim, which is obviously ridiculous.

    That being said, the Chinese are now turning out electric cars that cost LESS than ICE cars.
     
    Cheaper than American and European ICE cars--sure. Cheaper than Chinese ICE cars? Not sure of that--haven't seen one-to-one.

    The West needs to get off its ridiculous free-trade tic, or it can kiss its ass goodbye.** The Chinese labor cost advantage has narrowed, but it is still considerable and won't go away obviously until China's GDP/capita near matches the West, in which case it will be an absolute monster power.

    Europe is now killing themselves with "Net Zero" nonsense. Decimating their auto-industry, which simply won't be competitive with the Chinese imports in EVs.

    **Of course, this economic stupidity is absolutely dwarfed by the immigration stupidity, which in a few generations would mean there is no "West" at all.

    Replies: @res

    Cheaper than Chinese ICE cars? Not sure of that–haven’t seen one-to-one.

    Here is an example from Reddit. Looks like not quite yet. Battery cost will probably drive that and does appear to be decreasing rapidly.
    China is reaching parity cost between EV and ICE vehicle around 2024/2025.

    Today in China as an example, cost of ICE B segment sedan :

    • Geely Engrand L : 93,900-109,900 RMB (14,730-17,245 USD)

    • Geely Emgrand Hybrid :115,800-153,800 RMB (18,170-24,135 USD)

    Comparing to its EV Sibling :

    • Geometry G6 :119,800 – 147,800 RMB (16,500 – 20,400 USD) – range 410-500KM (CTP)

    A comparison from the comments.

    From the American perspective, we are doing poorly. Most EVs are anywhere from $10,000 to $20,000 more expensive than equivalent ICEs from the same brand when configured to the same levels of equipment.

    The example I like to use the most is a Hyundai Ioniq 5 versus a Hyundai Tucson.

    • Ioniq 5 SE ER AWD is $20,450 more expensive than a Tucson SE AWD

    • Ioniq 5 SEL AWD is $17,350 more expensive than a Tucson SEL AWD w/ Convenience package

    • Ioniq 5 Limited AWD is $19,240 more expensive than a Tucson Limited AWD

  223. @Ron Unz
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    You’ve often been accused of being a subcon, but it seems you’ve (accidentally?) come out as a Jew. Interesting.
     
    "Thomm" probably wishes he were Jewish and might be trying to fool some extremely gullible people in that regard, but it's almost 100% certain that he's a Hindu, and a particularly dim-witted and ignorant one, who happens to be an absolutely pathological liar.

    Since he's such an incompetent pathological liar, he's very easy to detect, as I explained in this comment from a year or two ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/covid-and-the-political-bankruptcy-of-the-alternative-media/?showcomments#comment-5543598

    He’s left around 3,000 comments here, and it’s best to start reading them from the beginning:

    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=thomm&CommentOrder=ASC

    He starts off crudely boasting to everyone that Indian immigrants are the smartest, most successful people in America. So naturally enough, some of the other commenters say he’s probably an Indian immigrant. But given his tremendous personal dishonesty, he fiercely denies it, and begins pretending he’s a native-born white American. However, he obviously knows almost nothing about American society or history, so he says the most ridiculous things, presumably nonsense he picked up from Bollywood movies or random websites. For example:

    As I often point out, it was true until very recently that Italians, Poles, Jews, and even Irish were not considered white (and WNs still don’t consider them white, based on comments in this very thread). See my comment #108.
     
    I think he claims that Americans didn’t consider Polish or Irish people “white” until around 1950 or so.

    If I tried to pretend that I was a Hindu from India, I’m sure I’d make just as big a fool of myself, which is why I wouldn’t do such a thing. Some Indian immigrants are smart, but definitely not “Thomm”…

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright, @Houston 1992, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    ‘“Thomm” probably wishes he were Jewish and might be trying to fool some extremely gullible people in that regard, but it’s almost 100% certain that he’s a Hindu, and a particularly dim-witted and ignorant one, who happens to be an absolutely pathological liar.

    I’ve satisfied myself that ‘Thomm’ is in fact a Jew and a medical doctor of some kind (I forget which) in the Pittsburgh area.

  224. @res
    @prime noticer

    Thanks. I had no idea the CHIPS Act was that bad. The worst is what do you want to bet all of the DIE dreck happens without actually building more fabs?

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    Thanks. I had no idea the CHIPS Act was that bad.

    You probably didn’t because every word “prime noticer” said was a lie (there’s a reason he’s “Ignored” by myself except here to find out what you were replying to).

    Let me very lightly edit and copy my essays on this article from the Fediverse:

    There’s many complexities involved.

    [MORE]
    Japan is a total zero when it comes to offering foundry services today. This might have something to do with how difficult they make it to do business with them, see for example their temporary success with DRAM which is a bog standard commodity. They did do competitive gate arrays back in the day, but that’s also something of a commodity, a sea of logic, the company fab that first and then only add metal connections on top to lay out the circuity of what it’ll do. See the first Sun SPARC chip from 1986.

    And the government totally blocked TSMC from setting up a foundry in Japan for years.

    What’s happening now, with some necessary and better than in Arizona support from the Japanese government, is doing dual ventures with Japanese companies who still have leadership positions in sensors, at the high end for example imaging ones. Since Japan is also a zero for high end logic nodes if those Japanese companies aren’t to fail hard in the long term they have to bring in someone to help, and TSMC is the best in the world by far, and is also trustworthy, the two are very much connected.

    So first, don’t trust this The Hill article. For example:

    This is not the way companies typically respond to multi-billion-dollar subsidies. So what explains chipmakers’ apparent ingratitude? In large part, frustration with DEI requirements embedded in the CHIPS Act.

    That’s due to current market conditions which are no so good, not so much money to earn after 2023 was go, go go (this doesn’t extend to Nvidia and “AI” of course). And here’s a huge flub.

    Intel is also building fabs in Poland and Israel….

    As usual, liars don’t expect you to click through to their links, Poland is getting a low-ish value “assembly and test facility” and Israel already has cutting edge Intel fab lines (see below for why they’d build another there as well as Ireland, and not Ohio).

    OK, back to reality: demand from US customers like the DoD is likely to push through TSMC’s first and maybe second fab line in Arizona, but they won’t be TSMC cutting edge, they’ll stop being able to fabricate new designs if Xi takes Taiwan, and they won’t produce many wafers per unit of time (first twenty thousand per month??).

    That said, diversity has been a near killer for the US in high end logic. To set the stage:

    * Global Foundries, the AMD spinoff of its fabs, has never brought their own CMOS node to high volume production, and bowed out of the game a while ago stopping with a Samsung licensed 14 nm one.

    * Samsung has terrible trust problems, including lying to each other inside the company as Intel also does. And are infamous for being the first to announce a new node and the last to get it to high volume production. Also not a pure play, and they have a history of stealing info from their foundry customers for their own stuff.

    * Intel was almost killed by diversity….

    Intel as our home grown, very very pioneering company from the start, has long had very bad high level engineering management (ask for details) but not in production after their DRAM debacle in the 1980s. This became near fatal when CEO Brian Krzanich starting in mid-2013 fired too many fucking white males needed to move to their “10 nm” node after they’d had a very difficult initial time as the first to 14 nm. He also gutted their verification function in the name of “velocity.”

    Intel’s crown jewel has been its cutting edge logic fabs, your in theory better architecture is nothing if Intel is 1-2 generations ahead of you in what it can put on a die.

    Krzanich was also very very big on diversity and you can see that emphasis to this day. Back then he put a pajeet who’s only skill was sucking up to his superiors in charge of “10 nm.” Which was years late, and only very recently is working well enough as “Intel 7” which aligned their naming system with Samsung and TSMC.

    And that verification function has been a less obvious terrible drag on the company, it’s extremely expensive in time and money, and time is money, to fabricate a new stepping of a design, plug it in, and find out it doesn’t work…. There’s also a credible rumor Skylake, the first microarchitecture done under Krzanich, was so buggy that was the last straw for Apple to abandon Intel for Macs.

    Me, I stuck with Sandy/Ivy bridge for over a decade, and only just now bought a Raptor Lake (slight iteration on Alder Lake) system after for example reading its errata sheet (well, I normally do that…). Which had some really bad shit which they did fix else no one would be buying them, the “won’t fix” stuff is mostly edge cases like running in debugging mode, or bad things happening if you try to step past the end of 32 bit virtual memory (“Don’t do that!”).

    OK, so Intel is in literally existential danger as long as Xi doesn’t destroy TSMC’s fabs in Taiwan. Heck, they’re even shipping CPUs with one or more Intel CPU chiplets and the rest, GPU and IO is TSMC, and evidently one future model will 100% TSMC with a CPU they’ll fabricate.

    Having fallen so far behind … but this is a declining market at the moment!

    There’s a reason besides AMD’s DNA of routinely screwing up that they recently spent a lot of wealth to buying the leading FPGA company rather than pouring those resources into x86 chips or GPGPUs before “AI” became a monster. See also the still ongoing disaster of it buying GPU company ATI; like almost all companies not named Nvidia they don’t have what it takes in software or ecosystems to compete in AI, also put a pajeet in charge of that, who then moved to Intel and has now moved on….

    OK, the point of the above is that to be competitive, Intel needs to be fabricating a lot of wafers, that’s how you learn to do it well and cheaply. So again they’re trying to set up a foundry to get volume with other’s designs, we’ll see if that works but I don’t hear about the current CEO firing the scads of managers needed to fix Intel’s severe cultural problems. Nor do I judge it likely he’ll deliver the “five nodes in four years” AKA 5N4Y, how can you predict that after stepping on your dick for half a decade and his being slow on the uptake about that?? He’s design, not fabrication….

    And, yeah, the CHIPS act, especially under “Biden,” moves at current government speed, and has so many strings attached … it hasn’t accomplished anything serious to this date even though it’s been in theory operating for a while. Some very small grants to microcontroller companies, and only now they’ve announced some bigger stuff. In theory.

    Putting fabs in Ohio would be totally political because you also need to have your vendors for Wafer Fab Equipment (WEF), from lithography to processing set up shop next door. That’s why everyone keeps building new fabs in the same general locations, from Arizona to Ireland to Israel to Oregon to Taiwan to Texas to various locations in Korea.

    And, yeah, you need a lot of very smart, highly trained people willing to work in bunny suits for long shifts to run these fabs. Starting with Reagan’s pick of (((Erich Bloch,))) not a scientist, did not have a Ph.D., for the head of the National Science Foundation (NSF), the US has been on a total jihad to replace relatively expensive native whites with cheaper Third World foreigners to do our scientific labor, at the same time claiming we don’t have enough people.

    People at the low, low price our betters prefer to pay them. Except people from these cultures don’t score high in honesty, and while you can wildly cheat in SCIENCE!!! research, you can’t fool Mother Nature in engineering, “people expect results” which didn’t happen with Intel’s “10 nm.”

    • Thanks: J.Ross, MEH 0910, res, Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @That Would Be Telling


    while you can wildly cheat in SCIENCE!!! research, you can’t fool Mother Nature in engineering, “people expect results
     
    Well put.
  225. @J.Ross
    OT -- Prediction -- People attempting to get aid to Gaza have become frustrated enough to simply send a boat that way. I predict that eventually Israel will interfere in some way, possibly violently, and this will outrage people.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    ” People attempting to get aid to Gaza have become frustrated enough to simply send a boat that way. I predict that eventually Israel will interfere in some way, possibly violently, and this will outrage people.”

    The Turks sent an aid flotilla there about the last time but three that Israel were killing Palestinians. Israel boarded it and shot a lot of people. You’ll note how world outrage has made this event well known.

    It’s good to hold the megaphone…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_flotilla_raid

    “The Gaza flotilla raid was a military operation by Israel against six civilian ships of the “Gaza Freedom Flotilla” on 31 May 2010 in international waters in the Mediterranean Sea. Nine of the flotilla passengers were killed during the raid, with thirty wounded (including one who later died of his wounds). Ten Israeli soldiers were wounded, one seriously. The exact sequence of events is contested, in part due to the IDF’s confiscation of the passengers’ photographic evidence.”

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The Mavi Marmara ("Bosporus Strait"). Our greatest ally tripped on their way out of the helicopter, panicked, and shot an American in the face five times.

  226. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Thomm


    Plus, if everyone is Jewish, there are no non-Jews for them to manipulate, so they will work in unison towards the big picture.

    The technological level would be comparable to what we see in Star Trek : The Next Generation. We would have warp drive, replicators, holodecks, and an interstellar civilization by now. We would already have started spreading out across the galaxy. [bold added]
     
    You've often been accused of being a subcon, but it seems you've (accidentally?) come out as a Jew. Interesting.

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    You’ve often been accused of being a subcon, but it seems you’ve (accidentally?) come out as a Jew. Interesting.

    “Thomm” probably wishes he were Jewish and might be trying to fool some extremely gullible people in that regard, but it’s almost 100% certain that he’s a Hindu, and a particularly dim-witted and ignorant one, who happens to be an absolutely pathological liar.

    Since he’s such an incompetent pathological liar, he’s very easy to detect, as I explained in this comment from a year or two ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/covid-and-the-political-bankruptcy-of-the-alternative-media/?showcomments#comment-5543598

    He’s left around 3,000 comments here, and it’s best to start reading them from the beginning:

    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=thomm&CommentOrder=ASC

    He starts off crudely boasting to everyone that Indian immigrants are the smartest, most successful people in America. So naturally enough, some of the other commenters say he’s probably an Indian immigrant. But given his tremendous personal dishonesty, he fiercely denies it, and begins pretending he’s a native-born white American. However, he obviously knows almost nothing about American society or history, so he says the most ridiculous things, presumably nonsense he picked up from Bollywood movies or random websites. For example:

    As I often point out, it was true until very recently that Italians, Poles, Jews, and even Irish were not considered white (and WNs still don’t consider them white, based on comments in this very thread). See my comment #108.

    I think he claims that Americans didn’t consider Polish or Irish people “white” until around 1950 or so.

    If I tried to pretend that I was a Hindu from India, I’m sure I’d make just as big a fool of myself, which is why I wouldn’t do such a thing. Some Indian immigrants are smart, but definitely not “Thomm”…

    • Thanks: Gordo, Houston 1992
    • LOL: Mike Tre, JimDandy
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Ron Unz


    '“Thomm” probably wishes he were Jewish and might be trying to fool some extremely gullible people in that regard, but it’s almost 100% certain that he’s a Hindu, and a particularly dim-witted and ignorant one, who happens to be an absolutely pathological liar.
     
    I've satisfied myself that 'Thomm' is in fact a Jew and a medical doctor of some kind (I forget which) in the Pittsburgh area.
    , @Colin Wright
    @Ron Unz


    'I think he claims that Americans didn’t consider Polish or Irish people “white” until around 1950 or so.'
     
    There did used to be a very strong consciousness of the divide between what one might term 'legacy Americans' and the various immigrant groups who poured in at the end of the Nineteenth Century. See references in Sherwood Anderson's Poor White and the film Our Town. Poles, Italians, Jews, the Irish -- these were all 'others.'

    ...and it continued for quite a while. My second grade-or-so reader had a short story about the little Italian boy who wants a baseball glove. His father at first resists the purchase -- 'What is this beezabol?' -- but eventually sees the light. That would have been around 1965. The notion that Italian immigrants could be so alien as to have no idea what baseball was still made sense to somebody.

    I don't know if many still saw Italians, etc as 'not white' -- but they don't necessarily seem to have been seen as American. Here, see the rant of the Nevada Senator in one of the Godfather sequels. That would have been set around 1960. It seems plausible to me.

    But of course it is all relative. DeSantis looks pretty damned American if you first contemplate Ilhan Omar. I had a bit of an epiphany when I heard a second-generation Mexican carpenter rant about a Guatemalan we both employed.

    It dawned on me that Jaime was a lot closer to me than he was to Marcelino. Marcelino, you could practically hear the wind flutes.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Ron Unz, @Wielgus

    , @Houston 1992
    @Ron Unz

    Ron : have you sampled ?

    To me , it fails on just about every level …. Poorly written … it invests one in a story arc and then abruptly ends it …..

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Ron Unz


    it’s almost 100% certain that he’s a Hindu
     

    He’s left around 3,000 comments here, and it’s best to start reading them from the beginning:
     
    Thanks Ron. My comment above was merely meant to be Thomm bait. :) His inaugural doth protest too much ridiculous India boosting is revealing. In 2018 I dubbed him Sad Thommbone:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/toomanywhitepeople-part-cxxvii/#comment-2286465



    Remember that it takes considerably more intellectual and moral courage to recognize that feminism is the greatest threat to civilization, than to default to ‘muh tribe! muh tribe!’ visceral thought.
     
    Sad Thommbone is now officially the Hindu Whiskey.


    https://media.scotchwhisky.com/images/media/ec13e6dfa3a5e722835d1a00635222bf.jpg
     

  227. @pyrrhus
    @Thomm

    Factual problem...until the 20th century, Jews contributed virtually nothing to science...

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @mc23

    It’s around 1870 that Jewish contributions start to ramp up. The Scientific Revolution and Industrial Revolution had already taken place. Inspite of impressive Jewish contributions there’s little that wouldn’t have happened in due course including the development of nuclear energy.

    The popular histories of Daniel Boorstein and Barbara Tuchman would always work in a Jewish angle when covering history or various advancements and discoveries and you’re left to wonder much of a difference their contribution made. There was also a steady stream of converted Jews who directly or through their families made large contributions in different areas. For example Jewish Conversos played a large part in the Jesuit order.

  228. @prosa123
    @That Would Be Telling

    He has almost nothing to say about (((Slotin))), partly reading between the lines I think he thought he was bat-shit crazy or worse, which is my conclusion as well.

    Louis Slotin was very lucky because he died just nine days after the radiation exposure. Harry Dahglian, who was fatally exposed to the same "demon core" in 1945, suffered for 30 days before dying.

    Enrico Fermi died in 1954 from stomach cancer at age 53. Shortly before his death he said he believed his illness was from his exposure to radiation. That's possible, though stomach cancer isn't usually a type caused by radiation. Oppenheimer himself died young from throat cancer, but he had been a very heavy smoker for decades.

    Ernest Lawrence died in 1959 from ulcerative colitis. No one thought of any connection at the time, but years later researchers found that the disease indeed can be caused by prolonged radiation exposure. Lawrence also had been notorious among scientists for his lack of concern over radiation safety.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    There’s an interesting paper on the history of X-rays, sterility, and medical reactions to it. Early x-ray operators became sterile after repeated exposures.

    In the 1900s, gonad shielding was first applied to prevent male sterility, but was discontinued when instrumental developments led to reduced radiation doses. In the 1950s, concerns about hereditary risks intensified and gonad shielding was recommended again, becoming routine worldwide. Imaging-chain improvements over time were considerable: in 2018, the absorbed dose was 0.5% of its 1905 value for the testes and 2% for the ovaries

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7005227/

  229. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @Bardon Kaldian

    'I don’t think there is such thing as “Jewish filmmaking”.'

    So, so wrong. Jews love making films where people stand around talking at or screaming at each other and there is no plot. Nothing happens. Often there are no scene changes. Preferably including lots of gratuitous and excessive profanity. Unwatchable bilge - unless you're a jew, I spose.

    Replies: @International Jew, @Bardon Kaldian, @Ministry Of Tongues, @Jack D

    So, so wrong. Jews love making films where people stand around talking at or screaming at each other and there is no plot. Nothing happens. Often there are no scene changes. Preferably including lots of gratuitous and excessive profanity. Unwatchable bilge – unless you’re a jew, I spose.

    A trend that began with the Jewish director Ingmar Bergman, influenced by the Jewish playwright Samuel Beckett. Bergman rejected the cinematic conventions established by the highly Gentile Hollywood industry of the 30s and 40s.

    • LOL: kaganovitch
  230. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Because the British Empire partook in so many victories in the Pacific theatre.

    Oh wait, it suffered its greatest defeat in history at Singapore to a Japanese force half its size, and had to be rescued by the Chinese at Burma


    On 16 April, in Burma, 7,000 British soldiers were encircled by the Japanese 33rd Division during the Battle of Yenangyaung and rescued by the Chinese 38th Division.[32]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma_campaign

    There must at this stage be no thought of saving the troops or sparing the population. The battle must be fought to the bitter end at all costs. The 18th Division has a chance to make its name in history. Commanders and senior officers should die with their troops. The honour of the British Empire and of the British Army is at stake. I rely on you to show no mercy to weakness in any form.

    -- Winston Churchill
     

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Surrender_Singapore.jpg
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Singapore

    Indian soldiers, as they were defeating the Japanese, being ordered by their British commanders to lay down their arms and surrender.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq2_SWXfvog

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @YetAnotherAnon, @Lurker, @prosa123

    ‘Indian soldiers, as they were defeating the Japanese, being ordered by their British commanders to lay down their arms and surrender.’

    Not exactly. The Indian divisions that were in Malaya were second-rate formations, and performed very badly.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    A great many went over to the Japanese as POWs and joined the Indian National Army. In many cases it was to get out of some horrid POW camp rather than definite pro-Japanese or Indian nationalist sentiment, but they were hardly superb soldiers.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Colin Wright

    There's a monument near the Ministry of Defence, in Westminster, dedicated to a (type of) British Indian soldier.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Gurkha_Soldier_Monument%2C_London_-_April_2008.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/Gurkha_inscription.JPG

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Gurkha_IOC_1.jpg
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurkha_Memorial,_London

    Replies: @Wielgus, @nebulafox

  231. @Muggles
    https://www.nytimes.com/by/brooks-barnes

    https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tLP1TeIT0_OrjA1YPQSyEotSs2tVCjXUyhILUktKgYAkOQJ4A&q=jeremy+w.+peters&oq=Jeremy+W.+&aqs=chrome.1.0i355i512j46i512j0i512j69i57j0i512j46i175i199i512j0i512l4.6041j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    Brookes Barnes and Jeremy Page are both White male palefaces.

    (Sorry, I can't get the photos on these links to copy/paste here...)

    So why are they bitching about the evil Whiteness in Oppenheimber?

    Of course the Evil Ones always recruit paid stooges to front for them,

    The answer of course, is money.Paid liars with golden chains. Until they get replaced.

    So far since about September, films have tanked at the box office. A few decent returns but not many.

    Marvel's chick flick Spidergals, or whatever, set new Box Office lows for that tired franchise. No one went.

    Barbie was a one hit wonder last summer for the H'wood feminist mafia. But how many men bought tickets w/o taking an estrogen filled date/spouse?

    I only saw a few clips but it seemed silly and forced. Yes it made money (was expensive to make) but I doubt that we'll see a Barbie II. Campy cartoons made w/ people are seldom long lasting.

    Otherwise Woke Hollywood is fast becoming "box office poison", in that memorable phrase.

    So these two White guys repping for the Quota Queens of Film are just punching their clock.

    If the Manhattan Project was staffed by mainly females and non Whites, we' d all be speaking Japanese by now.

    These two White NYT pimps would be complaining about the lack of Japanese characters in the epic tale of American defeat. The "people of color" would be Asians.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @SFG, @Dennis Dale

    If the Manhattan Project was staffed by mainly females and non Whites, we’ d all be speaking Japanese by now.

    We didn’t need to nuke an already defeated Japan. Also, “we’d all be speaking Japanese by now” is even sillier than “we’d all be speaking German now” (which, granted, doesn’t sound so bad at this point), because “world domination” was never the goal of the Axis powers–that is, no more so than it was ours. In reality, British fear of losing their world domination to German industry was a necessary precursor to WWI, and hence to WWII.

    Abandon these tired old lies.

  232. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Frau Katze

    There were far less Jews than most people usually think, especially among post WW2 chemistry Nobelists. Of course, among the most important scientists Jews were over 50%, but only specialists (or aficionados) know how many truly essential problems have been solved by whom. The contributions of many famous & significant people have been debated over years.

    Actually, it is impossible to ascertain this, because those contributions are not commensurable.

    My opinion is that A-bomb (and, later, H-bomb) is one of those breakthroughs that would have happened, sooner or later & that the US had uncanny advantages (big country, safe, vast resources). Just, due to the nature of physics (and other sciences) no similar breakthrough has occurred since. Those who read Clarke's "Childhood's End" will know what I am talking about.

    Human capability to wage a war did not have any truly new revolution after the A/H-bomb.

    I'm waiting.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘…My opinion is that A-bomb (and, later, H-bomb) is one of those breakthroughs that would have happened, sooner or later & that the US had uncanny advantages (big country, safe, vast resources)… ‘

    Yeah. Around 1942, the atomic bomb became more of an engineering problem than anything else.

  233. Jack’s right, after all, Russia is out of ammunition, without McDonald’s is surely starving, Putin and Shoigu are dead, all the Abramses are reaching Moscow by Easter, and Ukraine is so confident that it has introduced freedom of the press and stopped its press gangs. Perhaps the most compelling signs of Russian failure are Nudelman’s Retirement and the Council on Foreign Relations’ magazine Foreign Affairs calling on Western leaders to pressure Ukraine to negotiate.
    https://archive.is/GneVh

    Adjusting Western officials’ rhetorical emphasis in public statements would be a modest but important signal. For example, officials could restate their openness to conditional sanctions relief as part of a negotiated outcome to the war. But talk is cheap and Moscow will likely not believe it. Therefore, the United States and the European Union should also consider appointing special representatives for conflict diplomacy. Even though these officials would spend months engaging with allies and Kyiv before talks with Moscow are even considered, the appointments themselves would signal to Russia that the United States and Europe are prepared to engage in eventual negotiations.

    That link came from the talented Niccolo Soldo, like this one, which goes into detail about how Google is a dumpster fire crashing into a kindergarten, and is leaderlessly coasting on previous success. Totally vindicates everything I suspected about Sundar Pichai when I first smelled him. However, the problem is not just him, or his kind. The reason Google became self-destructively woke is the only “team” not isolated by siloing is human resources, which just happens to be the people most insanely woke. The siloing makes HR de facto management and each team’s only link to the rest of the company. Jack was right about an inserted command to wokify the prompts, but it’s worse than we thought: there were three different, redundant wokifying prompt correctors, not one, which is why Gemini was so ridiculously bad. One quoted engineer said that you could fire half the company without changing anything. Must-read quotes.
    https://www.piratewires.com/p/google-culture-of-fear

    “Three entire models all kind of designed for adding diversity,” I asked one person close to the safety architecture. “It seems like that — diversity — is a huge, maybe even central part of the product. Like, in a way it is the product?”

    “Yes,” he said, “we spend probably half of our engineering hours on this.”

    Before the pernicious or the insidious, we of course begin with the deeply, hilariously stupid: from screenshots I’ve obtained, an insistence engineers no longer use phrases like “build ninja” (cultural appropriation), “nuke the old cache” (military metaphor), “sanity check” (disparages mental illness), or “dummy variable” (disparages disabilities). One engineer was “strongly encouraged” to use one of 15 different crazed pronoun combinations on his corporate bio (including “zie/hir,” “ey/em,” “xe/xem,” and “ve/vir”), which he did against his wishes for fear of retribution. Per a January 9 email, the Greyglers, an affinity group for people over 40, is changing its name because not all people over 40 have gray hair, thus constituting lack of “inclusivity” (Google has hired an external consultant to rename the group). There’s no shortage of DEI groups, of course, or affinity groups, including any number of working groups populated by radical political zealots with whom product managers are meant to consult on new tools and products.

  234. anonymous[346] • Disclaimer says:
    @Nicholas Stix

    “But critics from an array of perspectives in the film industry have described the standards as the equivalent of tinsel — flimsy and showy — doing more to gild Hollywood’s image than to help people the movie business has long overlooked.”
     
    black supremacists used to call all affirmative action welfare “tokenism,” no matter how many gibsmedats were handed out to unqualified and unfit blacks. The new euphemism is “tinsel.”

    Replies: @anonymous

    “But critics from an array of perspectives in the film industry have described the standards as the equivalent of tinsel — flimsy and showy — doing more to gild Hollywood’s image than to help people the movie business has long overlooked.”

    How could the industry that brought us “Sharknado,” “Frankenhooker,” and the last three installments of “Star Wars” let us down?

    Personally, I’m not watching this maliciously white movie. I’m finna wait for the black Broadway musical version next year. If casting has any sense, Oppenheimer will be played by Jimmy Walker. He’s an American black national treasure, and Mexicans like him too.

  235. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Muggles

    "If the Manhattan Project was staffed by mainly females and non Whites, we’ d all be speaking Japanese by now."

    Be fair. The US, Russia and the British Empire (as was) were, in Churchill's words "twice or even thrice the strength of our antagonists. Hitler's fate was sealed. Mussolini's fate was sealed. As for the Japanese, they would be ground to powder". And that was when the bomb was still only a theory.

    But an awful lot of Americans, and perhaps Australians and Brits, would have died fighting their way across the Japanese home islands.

    Replies: @BB753, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Because the British Empire partook in so many victories in the Pacific theatre.

    Oh wait, it suffered its greatest defeat in history at Singapore to a Japanese force half its size, and had to be rescued by the Chinese at Burma

    On 16 April, in Burma, 7,000 British soldiers were encircled by the Japanese 33rd Division during the Battle of Yenangyaung and rescued by the Chinese 38th Division.[32]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma_campaign

    There must at this stage be no thought of saving the troops or sparing the population. The battle must be fought to the bitter end at all costs. The 18th Division has a chance to make its name in history. Commanders and senior officers should die with their troops. The honour of the British Empire and of the British Army is at stake. I rely on you to show no mercy to weakness in any form.

    — Winston Churchill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Singapore

    Indian soldiers, as they were defeating the Japanese, being ordered by their British commanders to lay down their arms and surrender.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    'Indian soldiers, as they were defeating the Japanese, being ordered by their British commanders to lay down their arms and surrender.'
     
    Not exactly. The Indian divisions that were in Malaya were second-rate formations, and performed very badly.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    "Indian soldiers, as they were defeating the Japanese, being ordered by their British commanders to lay down their arms and surrender."

    In a film. Made by Indians?

    (Indian cinema loves tales of the Raj and moustache-twirling Brit villains. My backpacking son had a few days work as a "Brit soldier" in Bombay. Very smart in his red uniform.)

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Wielgus

    , @Lurker
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Yet, later, British forces won much bigger battles against Japanese forces without any Chinese input at all.

    , @prosa123
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Because the British Empire partook in so many victories in the Pacific theatre.
    Oh wait, it suffered its greatest defeat in history at Singapore to a Japanese force half its size, and had to be rescued by the Chinese at Burma


    Legend holds that the British guns defending Singapore proved useless against the Japanese invasion because they were aimed out to sea but the invasion came from the land side. In reality, the guns could be swiveled to face the land, and some of them were, but they were relatively inaccurate large guns that were effective against large ships but not against infantry assaults.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

  236. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack D

    And, yet, Russia has not only withstood everything that NATO has thrown at it, Russia is winning and winning big.

    I don't know if Ukraine will go down as America's Syracuse, but it has fundamentally changed the world political order.

    The US was defeated, both economically by Russia actually thriving under the sanctions and militarily by the tiny Russian economy out-producing the entire West.

    America now must live in a world where many nations can punch back hard enough to deter the US from doing anything - and they know it. Should be fun.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Winning big? LOL. You can argue that it is a stalemate but no disinterested observer would say that Russia is winning bigly.

    • Troll: JimDandy
    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack D

    Jack, there's nothing left to argue about. This war is over. Everyone knows it. Why do you think Jabba the Hutt, aka Nuland, retired? The best that the WH can do is keep this going until the election, which is doable but after that, things get bad.

    Ukraine is running out of men. Their air defense systems are running out of missiles and are getting picked off. We can't supply enough of anything. And that fool Syrskyi keeps feeding soldiers into obvious cauldrons.

    I'm not saying Russia will takeover all of Ukraine, mainly because Russia has never wanted all of Ukraine. Who would? But the question is what Russia wants in terms of land and guarantees. Yes, we've reached the point of how this is going to end on Russia's terms.

    The Russians quite obviously want the Donbas and Kharkiv as well as the land bridge. That's going to happen. They'll also demand Ukrainian neutrality and no NATO membership for what's left of Ukraine, as well as no long-range missiles. These are all done.

    What's up for negotiation, though each day that goes by, this becomes less true are:

    1. Odessa and linking Transnistria to Russia

    2. All of eastern Ukraine as a buffer against the west.

    If Ukraine and the psychopath neocons had any brains, they'd fall back, build strong defensive lines and negotiate now with Putin. Tell him, sure, you'll win eventually but our new strategy will make it extremely painful, so let's work out a deal.

    You get Donbas, Kharkiv and the land bridge. The rest of eastern Ukraine remains in Ukraine but is a demilitarized zone. Ukraine and NATO sign an agreement that Ukraine will never join NATO. Ukraine also will not allow long-range missiles on its territory.

    I kind of doubt Putin would take that deal, but he might. The war is over, Jack. It's just a question of what Ukraine can salvage.

    Replies: @BB753, @Jack D, @HA

  237. @Alden
    The answer is easy. Oppenheimer and the other men who created the atom bomb were communist Jews. Recently arrived communist Jews who spoke Yiddish at home and among themselves immigrants and some American born Yiddish speaking communist Jews.

    And had a superb communist Jewish courier service to send their research to communist Jewish spies in NYC Who sent the information on to Stalin.

    If they were all old American Christian goys no movie would ever been made.

    Replies: @Sir Didymus, @Houston 1992

    To my knowledge no major movie or documentary has been made on William Shockley or Claude Shannon. Or Jack Kilby. Or the inventor of the op amp H S Black

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Stephen_Black

  238. Two more adds from Niccolo: Whereas child molester and illegitimate office-occupuer Joseph Biden was babbling when he claimed in the disastrous State of the Union to have cured cancer, it looks like we really have cured, or at least seriously mitigated, cystic fibrosis.
    https://archive.is/IUtid#selection-905.0-917.78
    Very very good interesting piece on Machiavelli and the foundation of liberal societies. Liberalism, as you will agree, is in crisis. Liberalism apparently doesn’t know how to talk about its foundation or how to (non-violently) refresh itself. Part of why liberals have turned into Bolsheviki is their lack of connection to their origins.
    https://aeon.co/essays/machiavelli-on-the-problem-of-our-impure-beginnings

    These are questions that modern liberalism is largely unable to face. John Rawls in A Theory of Justice (1971), perhaps the most influential work of political theory in the past 50 years, admits that his considerations of justice simply assume the existence of a stable and self-contained national community. Earlier, Thomas Hobbes and, later, Immanuel Kant had faced this question more squarely, but both warned against enquiring about the origins of our societies at all, for, as Hobbes wrote in 1651, ‘there is scarce a commonwealth in the world, whose beginnings can in conscience be justified.’

    It is not that the liberal political tradition (which is the tradition of most of the world’s developed countries) is simply unaware of political origins; but it deals with them in a deliberate and abstract way that is removed from the messy historical realities behind the formation of states and nations. The opening words of the‘Federalist’ essay, written by Alexander Hamilton in defence of the nascent US Constitution, posed the question two and a half centuries ago:

    whether societies of men are really capable or not of establishing good government from reflection and choice, or whether they are forever destined to depend for their political constitutions on accident and force.

    The US founders, in other words, consciously sought to create a wholly new society based upon just principles rather than the contingent events that gave rise to past governments, thus providing a model for future liberal constitutions. But accident and force are simply mainstays of history. And, as it happens, they are also Machiavelli’s bread and butter (or bread and olive oil).

  239. @AnotherDad
    @Corvinus


    Nothing to see here…
     
    There's plenty to see here, you just don't want to see it. Ludicrous abuse of the "justice" system for political prosecution.

    The minoritarians have abused the legal system for decades to institute policies they could not get--often would not even have the courage to run on--at the ballot box.

    Now the Parasite Party has moved on to show trials where someone can just make up stuff from decades ago and essentially steal from their political opponents and if you object and say "bullshit" they loot you even more. (We really--any society that wants to survive--needs to stop this ridiculous pampering of women. This woman had her chance to accuse Trump--and Les Moonves (she was apparently smoking hot 50-something rape bait for powerful men in NYC)--of raping way back in whatever year she's claiming now. Back when there would be store clerks and customers and store video to provide evidence. Women can not simultaneous be "you go girl!" can-do-anything adults and complete helpless children. Pick one.)

    The other NY case, there is no counterparty alleging fraud--no failure to pay premiums or loans by Trump, no bogus claims. Rather officials of the state of NY decide to have a civil prosecution of Trump. Then when other businessmen get worried about the ramifications to this lawlessness, the governor announces basically no don't worry, we're just prosecuting Trump.

    We're in "show me the man, I'll show you the crime" territory.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Guest007

    “There’s plenty to see here, you just don’t want to see it. Ludicrous abuse of the “justice” system for political prosecution.”

    You didn’t get my sarcasm.

    Of course there is plenty to see. Trump gets bailed out by a Jew who may have Kremlin ties.

    Occam’s Razor applies here—A man with a history of hiring shady lawyers and engaging in crooked deals, in which one of his lawyers admitted Trump’s long standing malfeasance, is being brought to justice on multiple fronts.

  240. @Jack D
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Winning big? LOL. You can argue that it is a stalemate but no disinterested observer would say that Russia is winning bigly.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Jack, there’s nothing left to argue about. This war is over. Everyone knows it. Why do you think Jabba the Hutt, aka Nuland, retired? The best that the WH can do is keep this going until the election, which is doable but after that, things get bad.

    Ukraine is running out of men. Their air defense systems are running out of missiles and are getting picked off. We can’t supply enough of anything. And that fool Syrskyi keeps feeding soldiers into obvious cauldrons.

    I’m not saying Russia will takeover all of Ukraine, mainly because Russia has never wanted all of Ukraine. Who would? But the question is what Russia wants in terms of land and guarantees. Yes, we’ve reached the point of how this is going to end on Russia’s terms.

    The Russians quite obviously want the Donbas and Kharkiv as well as the land bridge. That’s going to happen. They’ll also demand Ukrainian neutrality and no NATO membership for what’s left of Ukraine, as well as no long-range missiles. These are all done.

    What’s up for negotiation, though each day that goes by, this becomes less true are:

    1. Odessa and linking Transnistria to Russia

    2. All of eastern Ukraine as a buffer against the west.

    If Ukraine and the psychopath neocons had any brains, they’d fall back, build strong defensive lines and negotiate now with Putin. Tell him, sure, you’ll win eventually but our new strategy will make it extremely painful, so let’s work out a deal.

    You get Donbas, Kharkiv and the land bridge. The rest of eastern Ukraine remains in Ukraine but is a demilitarized zone. Ukraine and NATO sign an agreement that Ukraine will never join NATO. Ukraine also will not allow long-range missiles on its territory.

    I kind of doubt Putin would take that deal, but he might. The war is over, Jack. It’s just a question of what Ukraine can salvage.

    • Thanks: JimDandy
    • Replies: @BB753
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    "The rest of eastern Ukraine remains in Ukraine but is a demilitarized zone. Ukraine and NATO sign an agreement that Ukraine will never join NATO. Ukraine also will not allow long-range missiles on its territory."

    That's only gonna happen with regime change in Kiev. No more Western assets, no more nazi banderites, no more State Department/CIA intrusion: Russia would have to install a pro-Russian government and regime or else it'll be back to square one: color revolutions, Maidan coups and civil war and ultimately war against Russia.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    , @Jack D
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Don't count your chickens before they are hatched.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Mark G., @res

    , @HA
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    "Their [Ukrainian] air defense systems are running out of missiles and are getting picked off."

    Is that Moscow-speak for "Russian jets have been decimated in just a few weeks"? None of those downed jets will be picking off anything soon. Sounds like Ukraine's air defenses are working pretty well.

    "If Ukraine and the psychopath neocons had any brains, they’d fall back, build strong defensive lines and negotiate now with Putin. Tell him, sure, you’ll win eventually but our new strategy will make it extremely painful, so let’s work out a deal."

    I'm not sure how this so-called "new strategy" differs from the other one, given that they both involve keeping the Russians contained and making things extremely painful for them. Moreover, you're completely overlooking the fact that Putin's stateside stooges will never be willing to make things extremely painful for Russia -- they want Russia to win, and take all of Ukraine and keep going, and if that means turning Berlin into a smoking crater, so much the better. Putin knows this, and he'll know they'll keep caving, and so he'll keep going. Ukraine was always just a stepping stone.

    And there's no evidence that Putin has ever wanted to negotiate


    Right now, even if Zelensky agrees to negotiate, there is no evidence that Putin wants to negotiate, that he wants to stop fighting, or that he has ever wanted to stop fighting. And yes, according to Western officials who have periodic conversations with their Russian counterparts, attempts have been made to find out.

    Nor is there any evidence that Putin wants to partition Ukraine, keeping only the territories he currently occupies and allowing the rest to prosper like South Korea. His goal remains the destruction of Ukraine—all of Ukraine—and his allies and propagandists are still talking about how, once they achieve this goal, they will expand their empire further... calling Poland Russia’s “historical enemy” and threatening Poles with the loss of their state too.
     
    No pundit in Putin's Russia has ever considered Ukraine a bigger threat than, say, Poland. (And once Poland is settled, there's the even more pressing historical issue of what to do with Germany.) I think it was Solovyev who said that empires have to expand the way a shark has to swim to breathe, and once they stop, they sink to the bottom. That's pretty much how they see this.

    This idiotic "let's-call-a-cease-fire" talk is nothing new. It's just a replay of that one about how everything was going to be fine until Boris Johnson stepped in. But that was a lie, too.


    I'm already fed up with this story, so this is probably my last comment on this matter. There was no deal between Ukraine and Russia in March-April 2022. Indeed, both sides were working on the agreement, exchanged draft versions of it several times, and at some point Zelensky did believe the deal was possible, but what the Russian delegation ultimately put on the table - Ukraine's neutrality, far reaching disarmament of Ukraine's armed forces, and treaty provisions allowing Moscow to permanently influence Ukrainian internal politics - turned out to be not acceptable to Ukraine at all, and Ukraine was eventually right to reject it. The U.S./UK pressure on Zelensky is just... a conspiracy theory. Russia wanted the Western countries to broker this deal by means of them giving - to neutral and disarmed, so basically helpless - Ukraine security guarantees. And Boris Johnson also was right to refuse, since this would mean the West would be obliged in future to defend Ukraine with its own troops on the ground (as Ukrainian army would have been largely dissolved). His answer to Zelensky was: no, we won't sign up to this deal, but we will help you defend yourself here and now, you decide. And Zelensky took the offer, especially given the fact that the Russian troops around Kyiv were running out of steam, and the Bucha massacre was revealed at that time, so the public mood in Ukraine changed too. The rest of the story is widely known.

     

    Putin's own envoy said he had a deal to keep Ukraine out of NATO -- Putin rejected it anyway. But yeah, somehow this is all Boris Johnson's fault. And with regard to the so-called Istanbul deal that Johnson supposedly scuttled, I read elsewhere that the weapons cap that was going to be part of this so called new "neutrality" would have limited Ukraine's army to 65% or so of what they have now. I'm betting there were likewise restrictions on what Ukraine could buy from the West, too -- i.e., any cease-fire is just a set-up so that the next time Putin invades, it WILL be only 3 days plus a few weeks of mopping up. And he's basically admitted that an independent Ukraine was never in the cards, and had he known how "extremely painful" it would be to subjugate them, he'd have invaded sooner. The only thing that happens when the white flag is lifted is that the boys fighting to keep Ukraine from disappearing will be fighting in Putin's next operation, just like the boys in Donbass must show their gratitude for being "liberated" by jumping in to the meatgrinder now.

    If things are going so swell for Putin, why is Armenia saying they're thinking of joining the EU? I kid you not -- ARMENIA. Why didn't Sweden and Finland decide to abort their move to NATO if things have worked out so well for Putin? What is it that they see that Putin's stooges in the West don't?

    And as for running out of men, that's not what the trolls are telling us when the issue of aid comes up. You people need to coordinate your lies and your shtick better. Yeah, no one wants to be sent to the frontlines. I think we get that. That's why Moscow is scamming Indians into fighting for them. Doesn't sound like they're flush with soldiers either.

    As for Nuland, she's bowed out and come back before, and her decision to quit is more about that historic rivalry between the Natl. Sec. Council and the State Dept. (i.e. some NSC guy got tapped for the role she wanted and she didn't want to work under him) than the rivalry between Ukraine and Russia or how to deal with that. Even Putin's shills are admitting that "Nuland’s retirement probably does not signal much of an ideological shift at State."

    But I get it -- to the trolls, regardless of whether the coin toss is heads or tails, it's proof positive that Russia is winning and the West is losing.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Mr Mox

  241. Apropos of absolutely nothing this comment in ZeroHedge on Nuland’s resignation made me smile:

    She can now focus on her bucket list:

    – Bucket of vanilla

    – Bucket of Rocky Road

    – Bucket of chocolate

    • LOL: J.Ross
  242. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Because the British Empire partook in so many victories in the Pacific theatre.

    Oh wait, it suffered its greatest defeat in history at Singapore to a Japanese force half its size, and had to be rescued by the Chinese at Burma


    On 16 April, in Burma, 7,000 British soldiers were encircled by the Japanese 33rd Division during the Battle of Yenangyaung and rescued by the Chinese 38th Division.[32]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma_campaign

    There must at this stage be no thought of saving the troops or sparing the population. The battle must be fought to the bitter end at all costs. The 18th Division has a chance to make its name in history. Commanders and senior officers should die with their troops. The honour of the British Empire and of the British Army is at stake. I rely on you to show no mercy to weakness in any form.

    -- Winston Churchill
     

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Surrender_Singapore.jpg
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Singapore

    Indian soldiers, as they were defeating the Japanese, being ordered by their British commanders to lay down their arms and surrender.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq2_SWXfvog

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @YetAnotherAnon, @Lurker, @prosa123

    “Indian soldiers, as they were defeating the Japanese, being ordered by their British commanders to lay down their arms and surrender.”

    In a film. Made by Indians?

    (Indian cinema loves tales of the Raj and moustache-twirling Brit villains. My backpacking son had a few days work as a “Brit soldier” in Bombay. Very smart in his red uniform.)

    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Good point. Commenter Malla has made compelling arguments about British rule being a net positive.

    This is the film about the army led by Subhas Chandra Bose.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forgotten_Army_-_Azaadi_Ke_Liye

    But ultimately neither the Chinese nor Japanese were going to accept British imperialism in Tibet and Yangtze, thus supported Indian Independence.

    The Chinese supported Gandhi; the Japanese (and Germans) supported Bose.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Subhas_Chandra_Bose_meeting_Adolf_Hitler.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/19430610_meeting_bose_tojo.png

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Gandhi_Chiang_Madame_Chiang_10_Feb_1942_India.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/%E4%B8%AD%E5%8D%B0%E5%8F%8B%E8%AA%BC%E6%B5%B7%E5%A0%B1.jpg

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Wielgus

    , @Wielgus
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I've seen a couple of films like that. I wonder where they get the "Anglo" actors from.
    I saw a Turkish TV series about their independence war after the collapse of the Ottomans. Scottish Highlanders in the British Army were depicted, not very convincingly. They clearly found a few fairer-skinned Turks and dressed them up in kilts. Then again, T.E. Lawrence wasn't too convincing playing an inhabitant of the region, either...

  243. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Placing things in perspective--

    1. German nuclear program had a budget of $2 million

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_program_during_World_War_II

    2. Japanese nuclear program had a budget of just over $4 million. (from jp version of wiki article)

    3. Manhanttan project had a budget of $2 billion (1945, ~US$26 billion in 2022)

    Japan went to war in China largely to prevent Soviet communist infiltration-- communist spies later handed nuclear secrets to Communist China


    The Chinese nuclear program was aided by its considerable access to Western atomic secrets. For example, China may have benefited from the defection of American physicist Joan Hinton in 1948 (Reed and Stillman 87). Hinton had worked on the “Fat Man” plutonium implosion bomb at Los Alamos and witnessed the Trinity Test.
     

    Despite Mao’s proclamation of scientific independence, however, Qian Sanqiang traveled to East Germany in July 1959 to meet with former Manhattan Project physicist—and Soviet spy—Klaus Fuchs.

    Fuchs and Qian spent the summer of 1959 going over detailed designs of the “Fat Man” plutonium implosion bomb.
     

    https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/history/chinese-nuclear-program/

    Replies: @anonymous, @Colin Wright

    ‘Placing things in perspective–

    1. German nuclear program had a budget of $2 million’

    My guess is that in an alternate universe — like, say, one in which the Soviet Union collapses in 1941, Britain makes peace, and the US never actually enters the war — there’s a reasonable chance Germany eventually develops the bomb. Given the necessary leisure, and spare resources, she could have done it.

    Like, by 1947. Assuming continued tension between the US and Nazi Germany, we probably pursue it with less intensity, completing one by 1946 or so. In an America at peace, it would have been hard to justify expenditures on quite the scale the Manhattan Project as executed required.

    It’s unlikely that either side drops it though — except maybe us on Japan. As far as the US and Germany go, London is a colossal hostage. Once the Germans have Sarin, they’ve got a card to play if the US nukes Berlin. They don’t even need to have the bomb yet.

  244. @Ron Unz
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    You’ve often been accused of being a subcon, but it seems you’ve (accidentally?) come out as a Jew. Interesting.
     
    "Thomm" probably wishes he were Jewish and might be trying to fool some extremely gullible people in that regard, but it's almost 100% certain that he's a Hindu, and a particularly dim-witted and ignorant one, who happens to be an absolutely pathological liar.

    Since he's such an incompetent pathological liar, he's very easy to detect, as I explained in this comment from a year or two ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/covid-and-the-political-bankruptcy-of-the-alternative-media/?showcomments#comment-5543598

    He’s left around 3,000 comments here, and it’s best to start reading them from the beginning:

    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=thomm&CommentOrder=ASC

    He starts off crudely boasting to everyone that Indian immigrants are the smartest, most successful people in America. So naturally enough, some of the other commenters say he’s probably an Indian immigrant. But given his tremendous personal dishonesty, he fiercely denies it, and begins pretending he’s a native-born white American. However, he obviously knows almost nothing about American society or history, so he says the most ridiculous things, presumably nonsense he picked up from Bollywood movies or random websites. For example:

    As I often point out, it was true until very recently that Italians, Poles, Jews, and even Irish were not considered white (and WNs still don’t consider them white, based on comments in this very thread). See my comment #108.
     
    I think he claims that Americans didn’t consider Polish or Irish people “white” until around 1950 or so.

    If I tried to pretend that I was a Hindu from India, I’m sure I’d make just as big a fool of myself, which is why I wouldn’t do such a thing. Some Indian immigrants are smart, but definitely not “Thomm”…

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright, @Houston 1992, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    ‘I think he claims that Americans didn’t consider Polish or Irish people “white” until around 1950 or so.’

    There did used to be a very strong consciousness of the divide between what one might term ‘legacy Americans’ and the various immigrant groups who poured in at the end of the Nineteenth Century. See references in Sherwood Anderson’s Poor White and the film Our Town. Poles, Italians, Jews, the Irish — these were all ‘others.’

    …and it continued for quite a while. My second grade-or-so reader had a short story about the little Italian boy who wants a baseball glove. His father at first resists the purchase — ‘What is this beezabol?’ — but eventually sees the light. That would have been around 1965. The notion that Italian immigrants could be so alien as to have no idea what baseball was still made sense to somebody.

    I don’t know if many still saw Italians, etc as ‘not white’ — but they don’t necessarily seem to have been seen as American. Here, see the rant of the Nevada Senator in one of the Godfather sequels. That would have been set around 1960. It seems plausible to me.

    But of course it is all relative. DeSantis looks pretty damned American if you first contemplate Ilhan Omar. I had a bit of an epiphany when I heard a second-generation Mexican carpenter rant about a Guatemalan we both employed.

    It dawned on me that Jaime was a lot closer to me than he was to Marcelino. Marcelino, you could practically hear the wind flutes.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Colin Wright

    The Irish became white before the Italians. The ending of O. Henry's "The Coming Out of Maggie" is pretty funny, by today's standards. A plain Irish girl shows up at the local club dance with a good looking "Irish" guy who arouses the suspicions of the resident young Irish stud, and they go outside to fight. The newcomer pulls a stiletto and we get the big reveal:

    I knew it, Dempsey," she said, as her eyes grew dull even in their tears. "I knew he was a Guinea. His name's Tony Spinelli. I hurried in when they told me you and him was scrappin'. Them Guineas always carries knives. But you don't understand, Dempsey. I never had a fellow in my life. I got tired of comin' with Anna and Jimmy every night, so I fixed it with him to call himself O'Sullivan, and brought him along. I knew there'd be nothin' doin' for him if he came as a Dago. I guess I'll resign from the club now."

    Dempsey turned to Andy Geoghan.

    "Chuck that cheese slicer out of the window," he said, "and tell 'em inside that Mr. O'Sullivan has had a telephone message to go down to Tammany Hall."

    And then he turned back to Maggie.

    "Say, Mag," he said, "I'll see you home. And how about next Saturday night? Will you come to the hop with me if I call around for you?"

    It was remarkable how quickly Maggie's eyes could change from dull to a shining brown.

    "With you, Dempsey?" she stammered. "Say—will a duck swim?"

    , @Ron Unz
    @Colin Wright


    There did used to be a very strong consciousness of the divide between what one might term ‘legacy Americans’ and the various immigrant groups who poured in at the end of the Nineteenth Century...I don’t know if many still saw Italians, etc as ‘not white’ — but they don’t necessarily seem to have been seen as American.
     
    Sure. But I'd say that anyone in the 1920s or 1930s who claimed that Irish, Poles, or Jews for that matter weren't "white" would have been considered a lunatic.

    I think the best framework was sketched out by Wilmot Robertson in his 1972 book The Dispossessed Majority. He divided the American population into three groups: the Majority, Assimilable Minorities, and Non-Assimilable Minorities. By the 1920s, the Irish and the Poles were might have still been in the second category or perhaps had already moved to the first.

    Robertson was the founding father of modern American White Nationalism and his book became the ur-text of that movement. For those interested, it's available here in convenient HTML format and I also discussed Robertson at length in my 2020 intellectual survey article:

    https://www.unz.com/book/wilmot_robertson__the-dispossessed-majority/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/white-racialism-in-america-then-and-now/#wilmot-robertson-the-dispossessed-majority-and-instauration

    But although I think the framework Robertson developed in 1972 was generally correct, that was more than a half-century ago and obviously it needs to be updated. I discussed some of those issues in an article a year or two ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/hispanics-and-asians-join-the-white-political-mainstream/

    Replies: @Alfa158

    , @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    Up until around 1950, urban parts in particular in the USA still had large numbers of non-English-language publications, catering to "hyphenated Americans" who did not yet read English regularly. These publications were typically in Italian, Polish, Yiddish or other languages. They began going out of business around that time - their readership was at last switching to English, and a certain suspicion of foreign influences was a by-product of the "Red Scare" in post-war America. So as one tiny example, Charles Buchinsky decided that it would help his career to be called Charles Bronson.

  245. @Lurker
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Movable parts?

    The fact he used that term instead of 'moving parts' makes me think the guy is an idiot.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mike Tre

    • LOL: Lurker, res
  246. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/nikstankovic_/status/1766216758258458921

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Lurker

    Movable parts?

    The fact he used that term instead of ‘moving parts’ makes me think the guy is an idiot.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Lurker

    I initially misread that as "removable" (ie, a replaceable component, as opposed to the frame or body).

    , @Mike Tre
    @Lurker

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/79/a7/4279a7112b8ba2b165a4a439d867194e.jpg

  247. @Lurker
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Movable parts?

    The fact he used that term instead of 'moving parts' makes me think the guy is an idiot.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mike Tre

    I initially misread that as “removable” (ie, a replaceable component, as opposed to the frame or body).

  248. @Poirot
    awards handicappers

    Wait, what? What is this term?

    Replies: @Alfa158

    It was a slip up. He meant to write awards differentlyabler.
    Old vices die hard.

  249. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Because the British Empire partook in so many victories in the Pacific theatre.

    Oh wait, it suffered its greatest defeat in history at Singapore to a Japanese force half its size, and had to be rescued by the Chinese at Burma


    On 16 April, in Burma, 7,000 British soldiers were encircled by the Japanese 33rd Division during the Battle of Yenangyaung and rescued by the Chinese 38th Division.[32]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma_campaign

    There must at this stage be no thought of saving the troops or sparing the population. The battle must be fought to the bitter end at all costs. The 18th Division has a chance to make its name in history. Commanders and senior officers should die with their troops. The honour of the British Empire and of the British Army is at stake. I rely on you to show no mercy to weakness in any form.

    -- Winston Churchill
     

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Surrender_Singapore.jpg
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Singapore

    Indian soldiers, as they were defeating the Japanese, being ordered by their British commanders to lay down their arms and surrender.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq2_SWXfvog

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @YetAnotherAnon, @Lurker, @prosa123

    Yet, later, British forces won much bigger battles against Japanese forces without any Chinese input at all.

  250. @Ron Unz
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    You’ve often been accused of being a subcon, but it seems you’ve (accidentally?) come out as a Jew. Interesting.
     
    "Thomm" probably wishes he were Jewish and might be trying to fool some extremely gullible people in that regard, but it's almost 100% certain that he's a Hindu, and a particularly dim-witted and ignorant one, who happens to be an absolutely pathological liar.

    Since he's such an incompetent pathological liar, he's very easy to detect, as I explained in this comment from a year or two ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/covid-and-the-political-bankruptcy-of-the-alternative-media/?showcomments#comment-5543598

    He’s left around 3,000 comments here, and it’s best to start reading them from the beginning:

    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=thomm&CommentOrder=ASC

    He starts off crudely boasting to everyone that Indian immigrants are the smartest, most successful people in America. So naturally enough, some of the other commenters say he’s probably an Indian immigrant. But given his tremendous personal dishonesty, he fiercely denies it, and begins pretending he’s a native-born white American. However, he obviously knows almost nothing about American society or history, so he says the most ridiculous things, presumably nonsense he picked up from Bollywood movies or random websites. For example:

    As I often point out, it was true until very recently that Italians, Poles, Jews, and even Irish were not considered white (and WNs still don’t consider them white, based on comments in this very thread). See my comment #108.
     
    I think he claims that Americans didn’t consider Polish or Irish people “white” until around 1950 or so.

    If I tried to pretend that I was a Hindu from India, I’m sure I’d make just as big a fool of myself, which is why I wouldn’t do such a thing. Some Indian immigrants are smart, but definitely not “Thomm”…

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright, @Houston 1992, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Ron : have you sampled ?

    To me , it fails on just about every level …. Poorly written … it invests one in a story arc and then abruptly ends it …..

  251. @YetAnotherAnon
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    "Indian soldiers, as they were defeating the Japanese, being ordered by their British commanders to lay down their arms and surrender."

    In a film. Made by Indians?

    (Indian cinema loves tales of the Raj and moustache-twirling Brit villains. My backpacking son had a few days work as a "Brit soldier" in Bombay. Very smart in his red uniform.)

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Wielgus

    Good point. Commenter Malla has made compelling arguments about British rule being a net positive.

    This is the film about the army led by Subhas Chandra Bose.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forgotten_Army_-_Azaadi_Ke_Liye

    But ultimately neither the Chinese nor Japanese were going to accept British imperialism in Tibet and Yangtze, thus supported Indian Independence.

    The Chinese supported Gandhi; the Japanese (and Germans) supported Bose.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Right up until the war years, the British took a much more relaxed view of Japanese imperial ambitions than the Americans did. One reason among many that Chiang Kai-Shek despised them with the passion of a thousand suns.

    >Commenter Malla has made compelling arguments about British rule being a net positive.

    I think there's a fine middle ground to be taken in acknowledging that the British tended to be most politically skilled colonial power by a country mile (one can consult Vietnam or Indonesia in the late 1940s to understand that as horrific as the Partition was, things could have become a lot worse if the British decided to hang on) and saying they were benevolent.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    , @Wielgus
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    In the top photo, the man on the left is Paul Schmidt, often brought in to interpret for Hitler, presumably Bose was speaking in English.
    Schmidt was indicted at Nuremberg because of his links to the Nazi leadership, but they were so short of document translators that he was employed, reading out his English translation of German court documents to stenographers who transcribed his translation. He was paid for his work with bottles of Coca-Cola and packets of cigarettes. He was eventually acquitted and set up a translation agency in Munich. He died in 1970.

  252. @Mark G.
    @Gc

    "Where is Physicist Dave commenting? The guy is intelligent."

    Recently he has been doing battle with some other commenters on a Ron Unz open thread. They have been making claims that the planes that flew into buildings on 9/11 were unmanned drones, that the buildings were blown up by small nuclear bombs or various other 9/11 conspiracy theories.

    As a retired physicist, PD finds these conspiracy theorists to be not very well grounded in the scientific knowledge needed when advancing their theories. He thinks it completely plausible that the planes did cause the collapse of the buildings.

    Ron Paul said in a 2007 Republican primary debate that Muslims flew planes into those buildings because we had been meddling in their countries. This blowback theory is one I agree with. We need to stop our meddling in places like Serbia, Iraq or the Ukraine and focus on the serious problems we have in our own country.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Ron Paul said in a 2007 Republican primary debate that Muslims flew planes into those buildings because we had been meddling in their countries.
    ==
    Paul’s conclusions are ever in his premises.

  253. @Stan Adams
    My uncle (the father of the crazy cousin I mention often) was married to a Jewish woman before he met my aunt. He spoke about the experience in the same kind of hushed tones that a combat veteran might use to describe an ambush in which his entire platoon was wiped out.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    “She used… sarcasm… She knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and… satire. She was vicious.”

  254. @Erik L
    @AnotherDad

    Jews have been great for America. The only way to arrive at your conclusion is:

    1. Begin with animus towards the Jews
    2. Complain about any aspect of the country that you can (directly or circuitously) blame on the Jews
    3. Call out the bad behavior of Jews as representative of "The Jews" (while noting that bad behavior by gentiles is just bad behavior of individuals and not reflective of "White People")
    4. Take for granted all the great contributions and/or assume that in the absence of Jews, the gentiles would have gotten around to it eventually.

    This is also how wokesters reason about generic white people

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    4. Take for granted all the great contributions and/or assume that in the absence of Jews, the gentiles would have gotten around to it eventually.

    Jews aside, it is one of those hypothetical questions that are basically meaningless.

    Without Newton, would modern science eventually be invented by someone else?
    I doubt it.
    Even such a genius like Leibniz couldn’t comprehend it: https://faculty.humanities.uci.edu/bjbecker/RevoltingIdeas/leibniz.html

    Einstein’s relativity was, despite absurd claims circulating in popular culture, immediately recognized & accepted by all top physicists in the world.

    Not so with Newton’s physics.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Newton's big book was an immediate success, with few doubters, because he'd gone back and converted his mathematical thinking to the kind of geometrical thinking that the most educated 1% were familiar with. So all across Europe, the top men agreed that Newton had done it.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @cthulhu

    , @Erik L
    @Bardon Kaldian

    From that article I gather that Newton was focused on describing collisions with momentum while Leibniz thought energy was the key concept. Newton was right in the case of collision predictions between pool balls but energy is also a useful concept in classical mechanics. For example (I might be wrong because it's been decades since I did mechanics) to predict what happens when the pool ball bounces off an elastic bumper you need to know something about the energy absorbed by the compression of the bumper to predict the path after it collides.

  255. @Intelligent Dasein
    @SFG


    though sadly I missed Top Gun: Maverick.
     
    Top Gun: Maverick was an estrogen-soaked rehash of the oldest and lamest themes in moviemaking. It was absolutely awful. If you can make it through the first 10 minutes and watch Tom Cruise safely "eject" from an experimental aircraft that disintegrates while pushing Mach 11, you'll have an idea of how accurate the film is with respect to the physics of aviation. If you then watch him just casually steal an F/A-18 Hornet and gatecrash the test range without anybody being the wiser, you'll know how accurate it was with respect to military practices. And this is all just filler for its extremely thin human-interest story.

    TGM was like watching a woman's idea of what goes on at "airplane camp," where they imagine the fighter pilots behave no differently than the bickering girls they work with at Target.

    Replies: @Shale boi, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anonymous, @SFG

    It was absolutely awful.

    You didn’t like the part where they showed the highway to the danger zone?

  256. @That Would Be Telling
    @res


    Thanks. I had no idea the CHIPS Act was that bad.
     
    You probably didn't because every word "prime noticer" said was a lie (there's a reason he's "Ignored" by myself except here to find out what you were replying to).

    Let me very lightly edit and copy my essays on this article from the Fediverse:

    There's many complexities involved.Japan is a total zero when it comes to offering foundry services today. This might have something to do with how difficult they make it to do business with them, see for example their temporary success with DRAM which is a bog standard commodity. They did do competitive gate arrays back in the day, but that's also something of a commodity, a sea of logic, the company fab that first and then only add metal connections on top to lay out the circuity of what it'll do. See the first Sun SPARC chip from 1986.

    And the government totally blocked TSMC from setting up a foundry in Japan for years.

    What's happening now, with some necessary and better than in Arizona support from the Japanese government, is doing dual ventures with Japanese companies who still have leadership positions in sensors, at the high end for example imaging ones. Since Japan is also a zero for high end logic nodes if those Japanese companies aren't to fail hard in the long term they have to bring in someone to help, and TSMC is the best in the world by far, and is also trustworthy, the two are very much connected.

    So first, don't trust this The Hill article. For example:

    This is not the way companies typically respond to multi-billion-dollar subsidies. So what explains chipmakers’ apparent ingratitude? In large part, frustration with DEI requirements embedded in the CHIPS Act.
     
    That's due to current market conditions which are no so good, not so much money to earn after 2023 was go, go go (this doesn't extend to Nvidia and "AI" of course). And here's a huge flub.

    Intel is also building fabs in Poland and Israel....
     
    As usual, liars don't expect you to click through to their links, Poland is getting a low-ish value "assembly and test facility" and Israel already has cutting edge Intel fab lines (see below for why they'd build another there as well as Ireland, and not Ohio).

    OK, back to reality: demand from US customers like the DoD is likely to push through TSMC's first and maybe second fab line in Arizona, but they won't be TSMC cutting edge, they'll stop being able to fabricate new designs if Xi takes Taiwan, and they won't produce many wafers per unit of time (first twenty thousand per month??).

    That said, diversity has been a near killer for the US in high end logic. To set the stage:

    * Global Foundries, the AMD spinoff of its fabs, has never brought their own CMOS node to high volume production, and bowed out of the game a while ago stopping with a Samsung licensed 14 nm one.

    * Samsung has terrible trust problems, including lying to each other inside the company as Intel also does. And are infamous for being the first to announce a new node and the last to get it to high volume production. Also not a pure play, and they have a history of stealing info from their foundry customers for their own stuff.

    * Intel was almost killed by diversity....

    Intel as our home grown, very very pioneering company from the start, has long had very bad high level engineering management (ask for details) but not in production after their DRAM debacle in the 1980s. This became near fatal when CEO Brian Krzanich starting in mid-2013 fired too many fucking white males needed to move to their "10 nm" node after they'd had a very difficult initial time as the first to 14 nm. He also gutted their verification function in the name of "velocity."

    Intel's crown jewel has been its cutting edge logic fabs, your in theory better architecture is nothing if Intel is 1-2 generations ahead of you in what it can put on a die.

    Krzanich was also very very big on diversity and you can see that emphasis to this day. Back then he put a pajeet who's only skill was sucking up to his superiors in charge of "10 nm." Which was years late, and only very recently is working well enough as "Intel 7" which aligned their naming system with Samsung and TSMC.

    And that verification function has been a less obvious terrible drag on the company, it's extremely expensive in time and money, and time is money, to fabricate a new stepping of a design, plug it in, and find out it doesn't work.... There's also a credible rumor Skylake, the first microarchitecture done under Krzanich, was so buggy that was the last straw for Apple to abandon Intel for Macs.

    Me, I stuck with Sandy/Ivy bridge for over a decade, and only just now bought a Raptor Lake (slight iteration on Alder Lake) system after for example reading its errata sheet (well, I normally do that...). Which had some really bad shit which they did fix else no one would be buying them, the "won't fix" stuff is mostly edge cases like running in debugging mode, or bad things happening if you try to step past the end of 32 bit virtual memory ("Don't do that!").

    OK, so Intel is in literally existential danger as long as Xi doesn't destroy TSMC's fabs in Taiwan. Heck, they're even shipping CPUs with one or more Intel CPU chiplets and the rest, GPU and IO is TSMC, and evidently one future model will 100% TSMC with a CPU they'll fabricate.

    Having fallen so far behind ... but this is a declining market at the moment!

    There's a reason besides AMD's DNA of routinely screwing up that they recently spent a lot of wealth to buying the leading FPGA company rather than pouring those resources into x86 chips or GPGPUs before "AI" became a monster. See also the still ongoing disaster of it buying GPU company ATI; like almost all companies not named Nvidia they don't have what it takes in software or ecosystems to compete in AI, also put a pajeet in charge of that, who then moved to Intel and has now moved on....

    OK, the point of the above is that to be competitive, Intel needs to be fabricating a lot of wafers, that's how you learn to do it well and cheaply. So again they're trying to set up a foundry to get volume with other's designs, we'll see if that works but I don't hear about the current CEO firing the scads of managers needed to fix Intel's severe cultural problems. Nor do I judge it likely he'll deliver the "five nodes in four years" AKA 5N4Y, how can you predict that after stepping on your dick for half a decade and his being slow on the uptake about that?? He's design, not fabrication....

    And, yeah, the CHIPS act, especially under "Biden," moves at current government speed, and has so many strings attached ... it hasn't accomplished anything serious to this date even though it's been in theory operating for a while. Some very small grants to microcontroller companies, and only now they've announced some bigger stuff. In theory.

    Putting fabs in Ohio would be totally political because you also need to have your vendors for Wafer Fab Equipment (WEF), from lithography to processing set up shop next door. That's why everyone keeps building new fabs in the same general locations, from Arizona to Ireland to Israel to Oregon to Taiwan to Texas to various locations in Korea.

    And, yeah, you need a lot of very smart, highly trained people willing to work in bunny suits for long shifts to run these fabs. Starting with Reagan's pick of (((Erich Bloch,))) not a scientist, did not have a Ph.D., for the head of the National Science Foundation (NSF), the US has been on a total jihad to replace relatively expensive native whites with cheaper Third World foreigners to do our scientific labor, at the same time claiming we don't have enough people.

    People at the low, low price our betters prefer to pay them. Except people from these cultures don't score high in honesty, and while you can wildly cheat in SCIENCE!!! research, you can't fool Mother Nature in engineering, "people expect results" which didn't happen with Intel's "10 nm."

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    while you can wildly cheat in SCIENCE!!! research, you can’t fool Mother Nature in engineering, “people expect results

    Well put.

  257. @res
    @J.Ross


    Derb is right that it should be a letter and not a campaign stumping. But this was a train wreck.
     
    As it was for over a century.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_the_Union#History

    George Washington delivered the first regular annual message before a joint session of Congress on January 8, 1790, in New York City, then the provisional U.S. capital. In 1801, Thomas Jefferson discontinued the practice of delivering the address in person, regarding it as too monarchical (similar to the Speech from the Throne). Instead, the address was written and then sent to Congress to be read by a clerk until 1913 when Woodrow Wilson re-established the practice despite some initial controversy, and an in-person address to Congress has been delivered nearly every year since. However, there have been exceptions to this rule, with some messages being given solely in writing, and others given both in writing and orally (either in a speech to Congress or through broadcast media).[10] The last president to give a written message without a spoken address was Jimmy Carter in 1981, days before his term ended after his defeat by Ronald Reagan.[10]
     
    P.S. Just how many bad ideas did Woodrow Wilson originate? More and more his election looks like the crucial event leading to The Current Year. Indirectly attributable to TR and his 1912 run as a progressive (hmm, interesting juxtaposition there).

    Replies: @J.Ross, @nebulafox, @nebulafox

    PS:

    But then, if the war continued, maybe Bolshevism would have been a lot more appealing to the general public…

    I guess God crafted special relativity for a reason. Look forward and take things better this time.

  258. @Ron Unz
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    You’ve often been accused of being a subcon, but it seems you’ve (accidentally?) come out as a Jew. Interesting.
     
    "Thomm" probably wishes he were Jewish and might be trying to fool some extremely gullible people in that regard, but it's almost 100% certain that he's a Hindu, and a particularly dim-witted and ignorant one, who happens to be an absolutely pathological liar.

    Since he's such an incompetent pathological liar, he's very easy to detect, as I explained in this comment from a year or two ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/covid-and-the-political-bankruptcy-of-the-alternative-media/?showcomments#comment-5543598

    He’s left around 3,000 comments here, and it’s best to start reading them from the beginning:

    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=thomm&CommentOrder=ASC

    He starts off crudely boasting to everyone that Indian immigrants are the smartest, most successful people in America. So naturally enough, some of the other commenters say he’s probably an Indian immigrant. But given his tremendous personal dishonesty, he fiercely denies it, and begins pretending he’s a native-born white American. However, he obviously knows almost nothing about American society or history, so he says the most ridiculous things, presumably nonsense he picked up from Bollywood movies or random websites. For example:

    As I often point out, it was true until very recently that Italians, Poles, Jews, and even Irish were not considered white (and WNs still don’t consider them white, based on comments in this very thread). See my comment #108.
     
    I think he claims that Americans didn’t consider Polish or Irish people “white” until around 1950 or so.

    If I tried to pretend that I was a Hindu from India, I’m sure I’d make just as big a fool of myself, which is why I wouldn’t do such a thing. Some Indian immigrants are smart, but definitely not “Thomm”…

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright, @Houston 1992, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    it’s almost 100% certain that he’s a Hindu

    He’s left around 3,000 comments here, and it’s best to start reading them from the beginning:

    Thanks Ron. My comment above was merely meant to be Thomm bait. 🙂 His inaugural doth protest too much ridiculous India boosting is revealing. In 2018 I dubbed him Sad Thommbone:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/toomanywhitepeople-part-cxxvii/#comment-2286465

    Remember that it takes considerably more intellectual and moral courage to recognize that feminism is the greatest threat to civilization, than to default to ‘muh tribe! muh tribe!’ visceral thought.

    Sad Thommbone is now officially the Hindu Whiskey.

  259. Anonymous[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @Suburban Dad
    The Manhattan Project-era Jewish scientists were generally a bit embarrassed to be Jewish. They were mainly from upper class German / Western European roots, while in the U.S. the majority of Jews were Yiddish-speaking Eastern European rustics. They saw Jewish religious practice as a pile of time-wasting superstition that they - or in a lot of cases, their families multiple generations back - had shed in favor of secularism.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Anonymous, @BB753

    The Manhattan Project-era Jewish scientists were generally a bit embarrassed to be Jewish. They were mainly from upper class German / Western European roots, while in the U.S. the majority of Jews were Yiddish-speaking Eastern European rustics. They saw Jewish religious practice as a pile of time-wasting superstition that they – or in a lot of cases, their families multiple generations back – had shed in favor of secularism.

    Hello, Suburban,
    I don’t know how many Manhattan Project scientists were American yekkes, but it is certainly true that they held the eastern European Jews in disdain. The poet Karl Shapiro referred to them as vaudeville Jews.
    But it’s complicated. Shapiro himself wasn’t a yekke but wanted to be one, that’s why he changed the spelling of his first name from Carl to Karl, to seem more German.
    Here’s an article by Yisrael Kashkin, about American yekkes and greater Germany, as we might label it, by a man who calls himself an American yekke although his ancestors immigrated from Ukraine:
    https://seforimblog.com/2016/09/the-american-yekkes/
    And here’s an article about the yekkes and the eastern European Jews which begins with an anecdote about the time the Hungarian-born journalist Ladislas Farrago visited Jewish Palestine in the 1930s and was called a yekke potz.
    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/0449010X.2000.10705191?needAccess=true

    • Thanks: kaganovitch
  260. @Colin Wright
    @Ron Unz


    'I think he claims that Americans didn’t consider Polish or Irish people “white” until around 1950 or so.'
     
    There did used to be a very strong consciousness of the divide between what one might term 'legacy Americans' and the various immigrant groups who poured in at the end of the Nineteenth Century. See references in Sherwood Anderson's Poor White and the film Our Town. Poles, Italians, Jews, the Irish -- these were all 'others.'

    ...and it continued for quite a while. My second grade-or-so reader had a short story about the little Italian boy who wants a baseball glove. His father at first resists the purchase -- 'What is this beezabol?' -- but eventually sees the light. That would have been around 1965. The notion that Italian immigrants could be so alien as to have no idea what baseball was still made sense to somebody.

    I don't know if many still saw Italians, etc as 'not white' -- but they don't necessarily seem to have been seen as American. Here, see the rant of the Nevada Senator in one of the Godfather sequels. That would have been set around 1960. It seems plausible to me.

    But of course it is all relative. DeSantis looks pretty damned American if you first contemplate Ilhan Omar. I had a bit of an epiphany when I heard a second-generation Mexican carpenter rant about a Guatemalan we both employed.

    It dawned on me that Jaime was a lot closer to me than he was to Marcelino. Marcelino, you could practically hear the wind flutes.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Ron Unz, @Wielgus

    The Irish became white before the Italians. The ending of O. Henry’s “The Coming Out of Maggie” is pretty funny, by today’s standards. A plain Irish girl shows up at the local club dance with a good looking “Irish” guy who arouses the suspicions of the resident young Irish stud, and they go outside to fight. The newcomer pulls a stiletto and we get the big reveal:

    I knew it, Dempsey,” she said, as her eyes grew dull even in their tears. “I knew he was a Guinea. His name’s Tony Spinelli. I hurried in when they told me you and him was scrappin’. Them Guineas always carries knives. But you don’t understand, Dempsey. I never had a fellow in my life. I got tired of comin’ with Anna and Jimmy every night, so I fixed it with him to call himself O’Sullivan, and brought him along. I knew there’d be nothin’ doin’ for him if he came as a Dago. I guess I’ll resign from the club now.”

    Dempsey turned to Andy Geoghan.

    “Chuck that cheese slicer out of the window,” he said, “and tell ’em inside that Mr. O’Sullivan has had a telephone message to go down to Tammany Hall.”

    And then he turned back to Maggie.

    “Say, Mag,” he said, “I’ll see you home. And how about next Saturday night? Will you come to the hop with me if I call around for you?”

    It was remarkable how quickly Maggie’s eyes could change from dull to a shining brown.

    “With you, Dempsey?” she stammered. “Say—will a duck swim?”

  261. What I see here (as in many other texts) is puzzlement about outsized achievement of ethnically Jewish individuals in many areas, in the US particularly (but also in the whole western world in the 20th C).

    It makes some Euro-whites uneasy, especially if they follow mostly biologically deterministic paradigms. Because, Jewish accomplishment in the past 150 or so years, in their eyes, implies that Jews are cognitively superior to them, or to put it vulgarly, not “subhuman” but “superhuman”. This is illustrated by Jewish over-representation in various prizes (science Nobels), numerous distinguished Jewish figures in many areas of intellectually demanding creative fields. So, they seem to be forced to acknowledge that Jews are somehow superior, “smarter” than them- which is unpleasant. Others try to “explain” this anomaly with Jewish clannishness, various types of nefarious behavior, Jewish ethics- good or bad, depending on those who evaluate such things- or some conspiracy (which is, honestly, a fringe theory).

    Be as it may, “real” or Euro-whites are tiptoeing when seriously confronted with Jewish accomplishments (not just success) in the past century or two. They try to minimize it with various absurd theories or to dismiss it as a product of media manipulation.

    Jewish supremacists (not true achievers) are full of chest-pumping (actual men of Jewish ethnicity, as a rule, never think in generic, pseudo-racial terms of Jews. When gifted, they see a mass of truly, even more gifted Euro-whites & don’t think they are somehow “genetically superior”). So, Jewish supremacism, manifested in counting Nobels etc., is a pastime of rather ordinary Jews who get a kick from the fact that Einstein and von Neumann were Jewish in the same way some English clerk of the Bartleby type feels elation thinking that Shakespeare, Newton & Darwin were English, or some Jochen the plumber experiences radiating warmth in plexus solaris upon hearing that Bach, Beethoven and Gauss were Germans.

    But what about Jewish accomplishment in the past 150-200 years? Does it prove something significant about Jewish intelligence, creativity etc.?

    3/4 “genetically” Jewish Ludwig Wittgenstein didn’t have a high opinion on Jewish originality, creativity etc. He thought of them to be great only in the field of religion or saintliness- not in arts & sciences. There, for him, they were mostly just copycats, not capable of initiating anything truly new & original.

    I can offer my 0.02$.

    Some things certainly have a high correlation with IQ, culture, ethics,…. but certainly we don’t know why some groups achieve so much in a period of time- when compared with similar groups- while others remain mediocre or max rather good.

    Jews, whether “pure” or diluted have been living in prosperous & advanced societies in the past 150 years; they succeeded to maximally utilize their beneficent historical traits (love of learning, focus on rational discourse, assimilationist zeal, their historical work ethics and developed imagination in discussing their religion’s inconsistencies, fascination with European creative riches when they found they’ve been under their nose for centuries,…).

    Other super-achievers are much more impressive for anyone trying to put things in historical perspective. Not genes, but explosion of creative forces aided by commercial & spiritual climate, enabled unparalleled flourishing of Florence in two- three centuries (did Dante, Michelangelo, Leonardo, Galileo thought they were biologically superior to other Europeans & all humans?); Germans from the early 18th C to the mid 19th C, from Bach to Wagner, from Euler to Virchow, from Gauss to Bismarck); English from the 16th to the mid 19th C (and inventing Industrial revolution along the way.)

    Simply, for some time periods, some groups excel so extravagantly it is hard not to notice that .

    And that flourishing (and subsequent decline) cannot be predicted. Nor truly explained after it is gone.

    No amount of anthropology, philosophy, economy, history, geography, linguistics, psychology of religion, sociology, genetics,…. can explain the miracle of classical Greece from -700 to -200 which laid foundation for western & hence, subsequently, global civilization.

    Life just happens.

    • Agree: mc23
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Bardon Kaldian


    '...So, Jewish supremacism, manifested in counting Nobels etc., is a pastime of rather ordinary Jews who get a kick from the fact that Einstein and von Neumann were Jewish in the same way some English clerk of the Bartleby type feels elation thinking that Shakespeare, Newton & Darwin were English, or some Jochen the plumber experiences radiating warmth in plexus solaris upon hearing that Bach, Beethoven and Gauss were Germans...'
     
    Indeed. It's noticeable that it is the least of the Jews who are most prone to ethnic chauvinism.

    Most of us tend not to put too much stock in some kind of Borg collectivism. That Nolan Ryan had a hell of an arm doesn't mean I can pitch.
    , @mc23
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I've always been curious about the brief burst of genius in Scotland over the late 18th into the 19th century. It seems to have been a small pool of talented people that were quickly absorbed in the outside world.

    East Asians have been introduced to the scientific and industrial revolutions only relatively recently. The wars in the first half of the 20th century were a curse for them. What will they do in the next 1oo years?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  262. @Steve Sailer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Newton's big book was an immediate success, with few doubters, because he'd gone back and converted his mathematical thinking to the kind of geometrical thinking that the most educated 1% were familiar with. So all across Europe, the top men agreed that Newton had done it.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @cthulhu

    Things seem to have been more complicated.

    https://arxiv.org/pdf/1503.06861.pdf

    THE RECEPTION OF NEWTON’S PRINCIPIA

    The Reception of the Principia by the Mathematicians in the Europe

    When Continental mathematicians and astronomers, primarily from Holland, Germany,
    Switzerland, and France, first read the Principia, they had some difficulties understanding Newton’s novel mathematical concepts, with its combination of geometrical quantities in the tradition of Greek mathematics and his concept of limits of ratios and sums of infinitesimals – quantities which become vanishingly small (Nauenberg 2010). After introducing three “Laws of Motion”, Newton presented ten mathematical “Lemmas” on his geometrical differential method of “ first and last ratios”. These lemmas constitute the basis for his calculus, and he referred to them in the proof of his propositions. Except for Lemma 2 in Book 2 of the Principia, Newton did not explain his analytic differential calculus in much detail, and European mathematicians, who already had been introduced to an equivalent calculus 13 by the German philosopher and mathematician, Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, first had to translate Newton’s mathematical language into Leibniz’s language before they
    could make further progress.

  263. @res
    @J.Ross


    Derb is right that it should be a letter and not a campaign stumping. But this was a train wreck.
     
    As it was for over a century.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_the_Union#History

    George Washington delivered the first regular annual message before a joint session of Congress on January 8, 1790, in New York City, then the provisional U.S. capital. In 1801, Thomas Jefferson discontinued the practice of delivering the address in person, regarding it as too monarchical (similar to the Speech from the Throne). Instead, the address was written and then sent to Congress to be read by a clerk until 1913 when Woodrow Wilson re-established the practice despite some initial controversy, and an in-person address to Congress has been delivered nearly every year since. However, there have been exceptions to this rule, with some messages being given solely in writing, and others given both in writing and orally (either in a speech to Congress or through broadcast media).[10] The last president to give a written message without a spoken address was Jimmy Carter in 1981, days before his term ended after his defeat by Ronald Reagan.[10]
     
    P.S. Just how many bad ideas did Woodrow Wilson originate? More and more his election looks like the crucial event leading to The Current Year. Indirectly attributable to TR and his 1912 run as a progressive (hmm, interesting juxtaposition there).

    Replies: @J.Ross, @nebulafox, @nebulafox

    I’d recommend Zelikow’s book “Road Not Taken” to get into the nitty-gritty details of how America entered the war right after nearly meditating an end to it. Counterfactual history is always a dicey game, but it’s really difficult to see the Western Front ending in anything other than a negotiated deal without American entry. Sure, the Central Powers were starving, but the UK was dead broke and reliant on Wall Street. France’s military would revolt after the Nievelle Offensive, over a year before Germany’s and right as Russia’s was. It would be nipped in the bud, but they would only tolerate defensive warfare from then on out until the Americans arrived. In a world where they never did…

    (The “democratization” of European militaries during WWI due to the decimation-and in some countries, discrediting-of the prewar aristocracies is something that needs a book. Early Nazism is impossible to understand without this IMO, as is the Russian Civil War and its brutality.)

    Most importantly, Germany would have no reason to deviate from the post-Alberich defensive warfare (itself a backlash against follies like Verdun) in the West that worked reasonably well for them in 1917. It was the Easter Offensive that broke the back of the German military, and that was launched precisely because they knew a million Americans were coming. And the whole history of static warfare shows that he who remains on the defensive has the edge.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Thanks: res
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @nebulafox

    What was the German plan in 1918 to do with Ukraine?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @nebulafox, @Colin Wright

    , @Wokechoke
    @nebulafox

    Britain could have nationalised industries…

    In ww1 it was always business as usual.


    Ww2 created a social revolution though in the UK in 1940. Along with the meritocracy of the RAF all industrial output was centralised for the first time on a rational basis.

    Germany was business as usual up until 1943. Then it was destroyed anyway.

  264. @From Beer to Paternity
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Bongo- no, that’s rubbish; Feynman was an eccentric, but not an egoist. He was one of the most psychologically mature & selfless persons to grace physics. Always ready to admit others’ accomplishments, never demeaning others, actually very critical about his abilities. A free spirit.

    Gell-Mann was a miserable envious midget.


    But I've got to say, eccentrics with great intellectual ability are sometimes pretty freaky. And of course they fight amongst themselves and say or do "crazy" things. They can obsess over underground/subway train schedules or chess, minor legal matters, and so on. That's always interesting to me.

    Meanwhile, in the soft sciences, lunatics cough up the most bizarre crap. And they corrupt damned near everything with their fevered imaginations.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Feynman was perhaps “freaky”, but- magnanimous.

  265. @nebulafox
    @res

    I’d recommend Zelikow’s book “Road Not Taken” to get into the nitty-gritty details of how America entered the war right after nearly meditating an end to it. Counterfactual history is always a dicey game, but it’s really difficult to see the Western Front ending in anything other than a negotiated deal without American entry. Sure, the Central Powers were starving, but the UK was dead broke and reliant on Wall Street. France’s military would revolt after the Nievelle Offensive, over a year before Germany’s and right as Russia’s was. It would be nipped in the bud, but they would only tolerate defensive warfare from then on out until the Americans arrived. In a world where they never did…

    (The “democratization” of European militaries during WWI due to the decimation-and in some countries, discrediting-of the prewar aristocracies is something that needs a book. Early Nazism is impossible to understand without this IMO, as is the Russian Civil War and its brutality.)

    Most importantly, Germany would have no reason to deviate from the post-Alberich defensive warfare (itself a backlash against follies like Verdun) in the West that worked reasonably well for them in 1917. It was the Easter Offensive that broke the back of the German military, and that was launched precisely because they knew a million Americans were coming. And the whole history of static warfare shows that he who remains on the defensive has the edge.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Wokechoke

    What was the German plan in 1918 to do with Ukraine?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Steve Sailer

    After Brest-Litovsk (the real reason Trotsky had to die) they simply occupied and exploited. They were then starving for resources and the Ukraine certainly had resources. Were they to win, we might have seen something like the Hitler's Table Talk scenario for Poland, where Ukraine would become a German latifundia, managed by retired soldiers.

    , @nebulafox
    @Steve Sailer

    Short-term: pump them for all the raw materials and food they were worth in partnership with dispossessed local landowners. Germany was starving, resource deprived, and labor hungry.

    That this was not the same thing as the genocidal, racially motivated plans the Nazis would bring during WWII should go without saying, but this being the Internet, unfortunately needs spelling out. (If anything, Entente fanboy arguments on how the Second Reich was a tamed down version of the Third get especially ludicrous with Ukraine. Both Austria-Hungary and Russia engaged in outright ethnic cleansing in a way the Germans just never did, for starters.) But the German occupation was harsh and fundamentally exploitative. As it was everywhere else in Europe where they conquered. Forced labor, martial law, and censorship was the order of the day.

    Long-term: Facilitate Austro-German hegemony through some kind of client state in Kyiv. Inevitably, though, the mind-bogglingly complicated, multifaceted, and underrated Russian Civil War hijacked everything. It's more accurate to see Central Powers decisions in Ukraine in 1918-particularly the coup and the resulting puppet government-as guided by that rather than long-term plans. It should also be stressed that there was no single "Central Powers policy", any more than there was with the Entente. The Austrians can and did diverge on the agenda within the limited, post-Brusilov scope they had. They had their own Ukrainian minority and were thus lot less keen than the Germans on using "Radas" and "Hetmanates" as a tool of control.

    One reason why the Hetmanate was unpopular was it failed to take into account how much the social order had changed due to WWI, as it had everywhere else in Europe. The Ukrainian peasantry may not have wanted Bolshevik rule, but it didn't want things to go back to the pre-1917 status quo. It would have taken the threat of a return to the Tsarist autocracy-or possibly the prospect of the Second Polish Republic ruling Kyiv-to get the Ukrainians to accept German protectorate status as a lesser evil.

    I'll come back with the long answer when and if I can. But I'd recommend this Wiki article as an example of just how wacky things could get as the old world collapsed. His father was so pro-Polish-the ethnic group that the Ukrainian nationalists were most hostile to, for good reason-that he took Polish citizenship after the war.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archduke_Wilhelm_of_Austria

    , @Colin Wright
    @Steve Sailer


    'What was the German plan in 1918 to do with Ukraine?'
     
    I imagine that in 1918 'the plan' was to get as much grain as possible out of the Ukraine as soon as possible to address Germany's state of near-starvation -- and to hell with everything else.

    As to what would have happened long-term if Germany had in fact avoided defeat in the West...given Wilhelmine Germany's relatively mild attitudes and a probable desire to permanently weaken Russia, an amusing thought comes to mind.

    Germany would probably have wound up doing just about what we're trying to do: sponsor a Ukraine firmly allied with herself and completely independent from and hostile to Muscovy.

    Replies: @nebulafox

  266. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Erik L


    4. Take for granted all the great contributions and/or assume that in the absence of Jews, the gentiles would have gotten around to it eventually.
     
    Jews aside, it is one of those hypothetical questions that are basically meaningless.

    Without Newton, would modern science eventually be invented by someone else?
    I doubt it.
    Even such a genius like Leibniz couldn't comprehend it: https://faculty.humanities.uci.edu/bjbecker/RevoltingIdeas/leibniz.html


    Einstein's relativity was, despite absurd claims circulating in popular culture, immediately recognized & accepted by all top physicists in the world.

    Not so with Newton's physics.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Erik L

    Newton’s big book was an immediate success, with few doubters, because he’d gone back and converted his mathematical thinking to the kind of geometrical thinking that the most educated 1% were familiar with. So all across Europe, the top men agreed that Newton had done it.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Steve Sailer

    Things seem to have been more complicated.

    https://arxiv.org/pdf/1503.06861.pdf



    THE RECEPTION OF NEWTON’S PRINCIPIA
     
    The Reception of the Principia by the Mathematicians in the Europe

    When Continental mathematicians and astronomers, primarily from Holland, Germany,
    Switzerland, and France, first read the Principia, they had some difficulties understanding Newton’s novel mathematical concepts, with its combination of geometrical quantities in the tradition of Greek mathematics and his concept of limits of ratios and sums of infinitesimals - quantities which become vanishingly small (Nauenberg 2010). After introducing three “Laws of Motion”, Newton presented ten mathematical “Lemmas” on his geometrical differential method of “ first and last ratios”. These lemmas constitute the basis for his calculus, and he referred to them in the proof of his propositions. Except for Lemma 2 in Book 2 of the Principia, Newton did not explain his analytic differential calculus in much detail, and European mathematicians, who already had been introduced to an equivalent calculus 13 by the German philosopher and mathematician, Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, first had to translate Newton’s mathematical language into Leibniz’s language before they
    could make further progress.
    , @cthulhu
    @Steve Sailer


    Newton’s big book was an immediate success, with few doubters, because he’d gone back and converted his mathematical thinking to the kind of geometrical thinking that the most educated 1% were familiar with. So all across Europe, the top men agreed that Newton had done it.
     
    Casting the Principia in geometric, non-fluxion (Newton’s nomenclature for what we call today calculus) exposition may have helped with immediate uptake by his peers (as much as a genius the caliber of Newton can be said to have peers), but Newton’s extreme reluctance to publish the details of “the method of fluxions” led directly to the disputes about who invented calculus*, and because Leibniz had no reticence at all about publishing, the next 50-100 years had the Europeans dominating mathematics and the British lagging behind.

    *Newton, of course, was indeed the actual inventor (or discoverer, if you’re of Platonic bent) of calculus, but Leibniz almost certainly would have gotten at least most of the way there eventually, and required very few hints (indirectly from Newton, via some papers of Newton’s that made their way to Leibniz) to actually recreate the diffential and integral calculus. And there is zero dispute that Leibniz’s notation is far better than Newton’s, and notation is of massive value in mathematics. But Newton’s physics work in the Principia and Optiks is unchallenged by any contemporary. The guy was a nutcase but was also the best physical scientist who ever lived, and really no else even comes close.
  267. I was surprised to see this story on page 1 of the print edition, above the fold.

  268. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Because the British Empire partook in so many victories in the Pacific theatre.

    Oh wait, it suffered its greatest defeat in history at Singapore to a Japanese force half its size, and had to be rescued by the Chinese at Burma


    On 16 April, in Burma, 7,000 British soldiers were encircled by the Japanese 33rd Division during the Battle of Yenangyaung and rescued by the Chinese 38th Division.[32]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma_campaign

    There must at this stage be no thought of saving the troops or sparing the population. The battle must be fought to the bitter end at all costs. The 18th Division has a chance to make its name in history. Commanders and senior officers should die with their troops. The honour of the British Empire and of the British Army is at stake. I rely on you to show no mercy to weakness in any form.

    -- Winston Churchill
     

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Surrender_Singapore.jpg
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Singapore

    Indian soldiers, as they were defeating the Japanese, being ordered by their British commanders to lay down their arms and surrender.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq2_SWXfvog

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @YetAnotherAnon, @Lurker, @prosa123

    Because the British Empire partook in so many victories in the Pacific theatre.
    Oh wait, it suffered its greatest defeat in history at Singapore to a Japanese force half its size, and had to be rescued by the Chinese at Burma

    Legend holds that the British guns defending Singapore proved useless against the Japanese invasion because they were aimed out to sea but the invasion came from the land side. In reality, the guns could be swiveled to face the land, and some of them were, but they were relatively inaccurate large guns that were effective against large ships but not against infantry assaults.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @prosa123

    As if Japan was anything more than a side show in comparison to German in North Africa.

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @prosa123

    Furthermore Japan sank two of Britain's heaviest dreadnoughts with only land-based bombers.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_Prince_of_Wales_and_Repulse

    Months previous Britain sank the German capital ship, but required an entire fleet

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_battle_of_Bismarck

    And this all took place concurrent with Pearl Harbor, which most Americans only know about. Because if you reveal that Japan was surrounded by Western and Russian colonies, you might think it was acting on self-defense.

    https://i.postimg.cc/pr5KmdFG/GBY4giba-MAAEQ0y.jpg

    Japan's miscalculation was that America would have intervened to defend the colonies of the European imperialists, if those were the only targets. This was not the case.

    Replies: @Jack D

  269. @Bardon Kaldian
    @From Beer to Paternity


    Was Feynman really doing that silly bongo playing after the test? Wonder how many caught that. I know it was a schtick of his, but I’m curious if he was really that goofy. I doubt it (but he definitely had an ego proportional w/ his IQ).
     
    Bongo- no, that's rubbish; Feynman was an eccentric, but not an egoist. He was one of the most psychologically mature & selfless persons to grace physics. Always ready to admit others' accomplishments, never demeaning others, actually very critical about his abilities. A free spirit.

    Gell-Mann was a miserable envious midget.

    Replies: @From Beer to Paternity, @James B. Shearer, @That Would Be Telling

    Bongo- no, that’s rubbish; Feynman was an eccentric, but not an egoist. He was one of the most psychologically mature & selfless persons to grace physics. Always ready to admit others’ accomplishments, never demeaning others, actually very critical about his abilities. A free spirit.

    Gell-Mann was a miserable envious midget.

    But I’ve got to say, eccentrics with great intellectual ability are sometimes pretty freaky. And of course they fight amongst themselves and say or do “crazy” things. They can obsess over underground/subway train schedules or chess, minor legal matters, and so on. That’s always interesting to me.

    Meanwhile, in the soft sciences, lunatics cough up the most bizarre crap. And they corrupt damned near everything with their fevered imaginations.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @From Beer to Paternity

    Feynman was perhaps "freaky", but- magnanimous.

  270. @Colin Wright
    @Ron Unz


    'I think he claims that Americans didn’t consider Polish or Irish people “white” until around 1950 or so.'
     
    There did used to be a very strong consciousness of the divide between what one might term 'legacy Americans' and the various immigrant groups who poured in at the end of the Nineteenth Century. See references in Sherwood Anderson's Poor White and the film Our Town. Poles, Italians, Jews, the Irish -- these were all 'others.'

    ...and it continued for quite a while. My second grade-or-so reader had a short story about the little Italian boy who wants a baseball glove. His father at first resists the purchase -- 'What is this beezabol?' -- but eventually sees the light. That would have been around 1965. The notion that Italian immigrants could be so alien as to have no idea what baseball was still made sense to somebody.

    I don't know if many still saw Italians, etc as 'not white' -- but they don't necessarily seem to have been seen as American. Here, see the rant of the Nevada Senator in one of the Godfather sequels. That would have been set around 1960. It seems plausible to me.

    But of course it is all relative. DeSantis looks pretty damned American if you first contemplate Ilhan Omar. I had a bit of an epiphany when I heard a second-generation Mexican carpenter rant about a Guatemalan we both employed.

    It dawned on me that Jaime was a lot closer to me than he was to Marcelino. Marcelino, you could practically hear the wind flutes.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Ron Unz, @Wielgus

    There did used to be a very strong consciousness of the divide between what one might term ‘legacy Americans’ and the various immigrant groups who poured in at the end of the Nineteenth Century…I don’t know if many still saw Italians, etc as ‘not white’ — but they don’t necessarily seem to have been seen as American.

    Sure. But I’d say that anyone in the 1920s or 1930s who claimed that Irish, Poles, or Jews for that matter weren’t “white” would have been considered a lunatic.

    I think the best framework was sketched out by Wilmot Robertson in his 1972 book The Dispossessed Majority. He divided the American population into three groups: the Majority, Assimilable Minorities, and Non-Assimilable Minorities. By the 1920s, the Irish and the Poles were might have still been in the second category or perhaps had already moved to the first.

    Robertson was the founding father of modern American White Nationalism and his book became the ur-text of that movement. For those interested, it’s available here in convenient HTML format and I also discussed Robertson at length in my 2020 intellectual survey article:

    https://www.unz.com/book/wilmot_robertson__the-dispossessed-majority/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/white-racialism-in-america-then-and-now/#wilmot-robertson-the-dispossessed-majority-and-instauration

    But although I think the framework Robertson developed in 1972 was generally correct, that was more than a half-century ago and obviously it needs to be updated. I discussed some of those issues in an article a year or two ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/hispanics-and-asians-join-the-white-political-mainstream/

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Ron Unz

    I’m Italian and members of my family and former residents of our old town have been emigrating to the US for over a century. Their official US documents had a racial categorization that always described them as White, and I don’t know any of them to have encountered anything to suggest there was any discrimination or hostility to them on the basis of being Italian or non-White. This was the case not only with my dad’s side of the family who were are pale and blue-eyed, but also my mother’s side who look more like Moroccans. Some paisanos and relatives even almost immediately began intermarrying with non-Italians with no issues.
    Quite the contrary, the only prejudice I ever observed was in the opposite direction. Being from an insular small town in Lazio, there was an inherent bias that non-Italians were inferior to us and marrying a non-Italian was regarded with mild disapproval as a step-down, particularly so if the spouse was not a Roman Catholic. Mom kept trying to match me with Italian girls and only grudgingly accepted my Germanic heritage wife because she was at least a Catholic.
    My mother who was born in 1909 had prejudices that were almost laughable in their radicalism. She basically regarded Italy as a peninsula of civilization, enlightenment and Christianity, located between the dangerous barbarians heretics to the north, and the primitive pagan ape-men south of the Mediterranean.
    Being non-White was not a problem for Italians or Irish people, at least not since the beginning of the 20th Century.

  271. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @Bardon Kaldian

    'I don’t think there is such thing as “Jewish filmmaking”.'

    So, so wrong. Jews love making films where people stand around talking at or screaming at each other and there is no plot. Nothing happens. Often there are no scene changes. Preferably including lots of gratuitous and excessive profanity. Unwatchable bilge - unless you're a jew, I spose.

    Replies: @International Jew, @Bardon Kaldian, @Ministry Of Tongues, @Jack D

    Yeah, what do Jews know about making movies?

  272. @Hibernian
    @J.Ross

    Alger Hiss served them, as did Lawrence Duggan.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    There ya go. Lutherans all. Were we to have institutional … not bigotry, but an eye on the Lutherans of the world, we would have a level of protection we do not have. Thus the committed rejection of such a layer.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @J.Ross

    Hiss was a WASP and Duggan is an Irish name, admit I'm not sure he was Catholic, if so, not a very good one to say the least. Then there's Aldrich Ames, the Walkers, and Ana Belen Montes.

  273. @prosa123
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Because the British Empire partook in so many victories in the Pacific theatre.
    Oh wait, it suffered its greatest defeat in history at Singapore to a Japanese force half its size, and had to be rescued by the Chinese at Burma


    Legend holds that the British guns defending Singapore proved useless against the Japanese invasion because they were aimed out to sea but the invasion came from the land side. In reality, the guns could be swiveled to face the land, and some of them were, but they were relatively inaccurate large guns that were effective against large ships but not against infantry assaults.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    As if Japan was anything more than a side show in comparison to German in North Africa.

  274. @Bardon Kaldian
    @SafeNow

    Jews, as an ethnicity, have some recognizable mannerisms & stereotypes, but I don't think there is such thing as "Jewish filmmaking".

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @J.Ross

    Filmmaking is the Jews’ own thing cleanly, they invented it. Their native art is storytelling and it’s a modern form of storytelling. They conceived of and built Hollywood when it was a couple of date farms. No one was displaced or murdered to make Hollywood. Objecting to Jewish filmmaking is like objecting to German(/Austrian) music composition.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @J.Ross

    This is wrong at all levels, so it doesn't deserve a comment.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  275. @Bardon Kaldian
    @From Beer to Paternity


    Was Feynman really doing that silly bongo playing after the test? Wonder how many caught that. I know it was a schtick of his, but I’m curious if he was really that goofy. I doubt it (but he definitely had an ego proportional w/ his IQ).
     
    Bongo- no, that's rubbish; Feynman was an eccentric, but not an egoist. He was one of the most psychologically mature & selfless persons to grace physics. Always ready to admit others' accomplishments, never demeaning others, actually very critical about his abilities. A free spirit.

    Gell-Mann was a miserable envious midget.

    Replies: @From Beer to Paternity, @James B. Shearer, @That Would Be Telling

    “…never demeaning others ..”

    I took a class from Feynman and this is not correct. Students were afraid to ask questions because he sometimes gave demeaning responses. This was before the requirement that teachers preface every answer with “that’s a good question”.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @James B. Shearer

    I'd love to have an anecdote about how I asked Richard Feynman a question and he gave a demeaning answer.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @James B. Shearer

    I was writing about colleagues; then, he generally was loved by students, which is attested by numerous testimonies.

    , @J.Ross
    @James B. Shearer

    I had a biology class with a teacher I thought was a genius, got an A, but stayed after one day to attend a bad students' plead, because I wanted to know what complaint they could possibly have about such a good teacher (Jewish by the way). I left after the first or second grievance because these kids were lazy idiots.
    I think I have seen Feynman being possibly what you mean by "demeaning," it's the interview on YouTube where the journalist is asking Feynman to essentialize and Feynman objects that this would distort the concept. Am I far off?

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

  276. @Steve Sailer
    @nebulafox

    What was the German plan in 1918 to do with Ukraine?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @nebulafox, @Colin Wright

    After Brest-Litovsk (the real reason Trotsky had to die) they simply occupied and exploited. They were then starving for resources and the Ukraine certainly had resources. Were they to win, we might have seen something like the Hitler’s Table Talk scenario for Poland, where Ukraine would become a German latifundia, managed by retired soldiers.

  277. @Bardon Kaldian
    What I see here (as in many other texts) is puzzlement about outsized achievement of ethnically Jewish individuals in many areas, in the US particularly (but also in the whole western world in the 20th C).

    It makes some Euro-whites uneasy, especially if they follow mostly biologically deterministic paradigms. Because, Jewish accomplishment in the past 150 or so years, in their eyes, implies that Jews are cognitively superior to them, or to put it vulgarly, not "subhuman" but "superhuman". This is illustrated by Jewish over-representation in various prizes (science Nobels), numerous distinguished Jewish figures in many areas of intellectually demanding creative fields. So, they seem to be forced to acknowledge that Jews are somehow superior, "smarter" than them- which is unpleasant. Others try to "explain" this anomaly with Jewish clannishness, various types of nefarious behavior, Jewish ethics- good or bad, depending on those who evaluate such things- or some conspiracy (which is, honestly, a fringe theory).

    Be as it may, "real" or Euro-whites are tiptoeing when seriously confronted with Jewish accomplishments (not just success) in the past century or two. They try to minimize it with various absurd theories or to dismiss it as a product of media manipulation.

    Jewish supremacists (not true achievers) are full of chest-pumping (actual men of Jewish ethnicity, as a rule, never think in generic, pseudo-racial terms of Jews. When gifted, they see a mass of truly, even more gifted Euro-whites & don't think they are somehow "genetically superior"). So, Jewish supremacism, manifested in counting Nobels etc., is a pastime of rather ordinary Jews who get a kick from the fact that Einstein and von Neumann were Jewish in the same way some English clerk of the Bartleby type feels elation thinking that Shakespeare, Newton & Darwin were English, or some Jochen the plumber experiences radiating warmth in plexus solaris upon hearing that Bach, Beethoven and Gauss were Germans.

    But what about Jewish accomplishment in the past 150-200 years? Does it prove something significant about Jewish intelligence, creativity etc.?

    3/4 "genetically" Jewish Ludwig Wittgenstein didn't have a high opinion on Jewish originality, creativity etc. He thought of them to be great only in the field of religion or saintliness- not in arts & sciences. There, for him, they were mostly just copycats, not capable of initiating anything truly new & original.

    I can offer my 0.02$.

    Some things certainly have a high correlation with IQ, culture, ethics,.... but certainly we don't know why some groups achieve so much in a period of time- when compared with similar groups- while others remain mediocre or max rather good.

    Jews, whether "pure" or diluted have been living in prosperous & advanced societies in the past 150 years; they succeeded to maximally utilize their beneficent historical traits (love of learning, focus on rational discourse, assimilationist zeal, their historical work ethics and developed imagination in discussing their religion's inconsistencies, fascination with European creative riches when they found they've been under their nose for centuries,...).

    Other super-achievers are much more impressive for anyone trying to put things in historical perspective. Not genes, but explosion of creative forces aided by commercial & spiritual climate, enabled unparalleled flourishing of Florence in two- three centuries (did Dante, Michelangelo, Leonardo, Galileo thought they were biologically superior to other Europeans & all humans?); Germans from the early 18th C to the mid 19th C, from Bach to Wagner, from Euler to Virchow, from Gauss to Bismarck); English from the 16th to the mid 19th C (and inventing Industrial revolution along the way.)

    Simply, for some time periods, some groups excel so extravagantly it is hard not to notice that .

    And that flourishing (and subsequent decline) cannot be predicted. Nor truly explained after it is gone.

    No amount of anthropology, philosophy, economy, history, geography, linguistics, psychology of religion, sociology, genetics,.... can explain the miracle of classical Greece from -700 to -200 which laid foundation for western & hence, subsequently, global civilization.

    Life just happens.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @mc23

    ‘…So, Jewish supremacism, manifested in counting Nobels etc., is a pastime of rather ordinary Jews who get a kick from the fact that Einstein and von Neumann were Jewish in the same way some English clerk of the Bartleby type feels elation thinking that Shakespeare, Newton & Darwin were English, or some Jochen the plumber experiences radiating warmth in plexus solaris upon hearing that Bach, Beethoven and Gauss were Germans…’

    Indeed. It’s noticeable that it is the least of the Jews who are most prone to ethnic chauvinism.

    Most of us tend not to put too much stock in some kind of Borg collectivism. That Nolan Ryan had a hell of an arm doesn’t mean I can pitch.

  278. @nebulafox
    @res

    I’d recommend Zelikow’s book “Road Not Taken” to get into the nitty-gritty details of how America entered the war right after nearly meditating an end to it. Counterfactual history is always a dicey game, but it’s really difficult to see the Western Front ending in anything other than a negotiated deal without American entry. Sure, the Central Powers were starving, but the UK was dead broke and reliant on Wall Street. France’s military would revolt after the Nievelle Offensive, over a year before Germany’s and right as Russia’s was. It would be nipped in the bud, but they would only tolerate defensive warfare from then on out until the Americans arrived. In a world where they never did…

    (The “democratization” of European militaries during WWI due to the decimation-and in some countries, discrediting-of the prewar aristocracies is something that needs a book. Early Nazism is impossible to understand without this IMO, as is the Russian Civil War and its brutality.)

    Most importantly, Germany would have no reason to deviate from the post-Alberich defensive warfare (itself a backlash against follies like Verdun) in the West that worked reasonably well for them in 1917. It was the Easter Offensive that broke the back of the German military, and that was launched precisely because they knew a million Americans were coming. And the whole history of static warfare shows that he who remains on the defensive has the edge.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Wokechoke

    Britain could have nationalised industries…

    In ww1 it was always business as usual.

    Ww2 created a social revolution though in the UK in 1940. Along with the meritocracy of the RAF all industrial output was centralised for the first time on a rational basis.

    Germany was business as usual up until 1943. Then it was destroyed anyway.

  279. @Jack D
    @Frau Katze

    Julius (aka J. Robert) himself grew up in privilege. The movie raises this as a point of friction between himself and Lewis Strauss, who was himself a self-made man. Strauss was intimidated and intellectually threatened by the well educated and snooty, privileged Oppenheimer and this led in part to Strauss trying to cut Oppenheimer down a notch.

    von Neumann also had a very privileged background. However, some of the scientists (e.g. Feynman) grew up in very modest circumstances.

    But yes, in general the upward mobility of the Jews was remarkable. I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did. I think it's hilarious/sad when they interview some illegal alien who has been here for 20 years and the interview is in Spanish because in 20 years said alien hasn't learned two words of Ingles.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad, @Art Deco, @kaganovitch

    I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did. I think it’s hilarious/sad when they interview some illegal alien who has been here for 20 years and the interview is in Spanish because in 20 years said alien hasn’t learned two words of Ingles.

    I have family with a similar career trajectory, but to be fair I knew many Jewish immigrants who learned no English and conducted their lives entirely in Yiddish. If one lives in an ethnic enclave as these immigrants did and do, one can get away with that.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @kaganovitch

    Yes, that is true too, perhaps especially in the ultra-Orthodox community. When I was growing up I knew the shochet (ritual slaughterer) of Lakewood. He was a saintly elderly man with a long white beard and he spoke not a word of English. His assistant was an African American man and he spoke to him in Yiddish also. I don't think my grandmother ever really learned English either.

    But her kids sure did. Both of my uncles were in business and they spoke virtually unaccented English. If you listened real hard you could catch that they had a slight accent but for the most part their English was very good even though they were not highly educated people.

  280. @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    Oh, a Lutheran. So that's why he served the Soviet Union.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Patrick McNally

    Alger Hiss served them, as did Lawrence Duggan.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Hibernian

    There ya go. Lutherans all. Were we to have institutional ... not bigotry, but an eye on the Lutherans of the world, we would have a level of protection we do not have. Thus the committed rejection of such a layer.

    Replies: @Hibernian

  281. @Steve Sailer
    @nebulafox

    What was the German plan in 1918 to do with Ukraine?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @nebulafox, @Colin Wright

    Short-term: pump them for all the raw materials and food they were worth in partnership with dispossessed local landowners. Germany was starving, resource deprived, and labor hungry.

    That this was not the same thing as the genocidal, racially motivated plans the Nazis would bring during WWII should go without saying, but this being the Internet, unfortunately needs spelling out. (If anything, Entente fanboy arguments on how the Second Reich was a tamed down version of the Third get especially ludicrous with Ukraine. Both Austria-Hungary and Russia engaged in outright ethnic cleansing in a way the Germans just never did, for starters.) But the German occupation was harsh and fundamentally exploitative. As it was everywhere else in Europe where they conquered. Forced labor, martial law, and censorship was the order of the day.

    Long-term: Facilitate Austro-German hegemony through some kind of client state in Kyiv. Inevitably, though, the mind-bogglingly complicated, multifaceted, and underrated Russian Civil War hijacked everything. It’s more accurate to see Central Powers decisions in Ukraine in 1918-particularly the coup and the resulting puppet government-as guided by that rather than long-term plans. It should also be stressed that there was no single “Central Powers policy”, any more than there was with the Entente. The Austrians can and did diverge on the agenda within the limited, post-Brusilov scope they had. They had their own Ukrainian minority and were thus lot less keen than the Germans on using “Radas” and “Hetmanates” as a tool of control.

    One reason why the Hetmanate was unpopular was it failed to take into account how much the social order had changed due to WWI, as it had everywhere else in Europe. The Ukrainian peasantry may not have wanted Bolshevik rule, but it didn’t want things to go back to the pre-1917 status quo. It would have taken the threat of a return to the Tsarist autocracy-or possibly the prospect of the Second Polish Republic ruling Kyiv-to get the Ukrainians to accept German protectorate status as a lesser evil.

    I’ll come back with the long answer when and if I can. But I’d recommend this Wiki article as an example of just how wacky things could get as the old world collapsed. His father was so pro-Polish-the ethnic group that the Ukrainian nationalists were most hostile to, for good reason-that he took Polish citizenship after the war.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archduke_Wilhelm_of_Austria

  282. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Good point. Commenter Malla has made compelling arguments about British rule being a net positive.

    This is the film about the army led by Subhas Chandra Bose.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forgotten_Army_-_Azaadi_Ke_Liye

    But ultimately neither the Chinese nor Japanese were going to accept British imperialism in Tibet and Yangtze, thus supported Indian Independence.

    The Chinese supported Gandhi; the Japanese (and Germans) supported Bose.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Subhas_Chandra_Bose_meeting_Adolf_Hitler.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/19430610_meeting_bose_tojo.png

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Gandhi_Chiang_Madame_Chiang_10_Feb_1942_India.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/%E4%B8%AD%E5%8D%B0%E5%8F%8B%E8%AA%BC%E6%B5%B7%E5%A0%B1.jpg

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Wielgus

    Right up until the war years, the British took a much more relaxed view of Japanese imperial ambitions than the Americans did. One reason among many that Chiang Kai-Shek despised them with the passion of a thousand suns.

    >Commenter Malla has made compelling arguments about British rule being a net positive.

    I think there’s a fine middle ground to be taken in acknowledging that the British tended to be most politically skilled colonial power by a country mile (one can consult Vietnam or Indonesia in the late 1940s to understand that as horrific as the Partition was, things could have become a lot worse if the British decided to hang on) and saying they were benevolent.

    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @nebulafox


    Right up until the war years, the British took a much more relaxed view of Japanese imperial ambitions than the Americans did.
     
    British soldiers fought alongside the Japanese against Germans in WWI. Britain and (((Jacob Schiff))) were the sponsors of Japanese imperialism.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/British%2C_Indian_and_Japanese_soldiers_in_Tsingtao_%28Qingdao%29%2C_China%2C_1914.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/BritishTroopsArriveTsingtao1914.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Tsingtao

    British soldiers congratulating Imperial Japanese troops on their recent victory over the Chinese Kuomintang. Shanghai International Settlement, China, 22 November 1937.
    https://i.postimg.cc/tR6T1G4Z/Fh-C7-TQPUJPn3-a-Op8w-GTf-Ekuvw-OB1qihxab-U-Fbhwts.webp

    Chiang understood the wedge between Churchill and Roosevelt-- America wasn't going to expend resources to help Britain get back its Asian colonies.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  283. @Ben Kurtz
    @Frau Katze

    Niels Bohr wasn't on the Manhattan Project.

    He spent WWII in occupied Copenhagen after getting all the foreign scientists out of his institute. (Btw, the Danes don't get enough credit for being the cleverest Gentile nationality in Europe - they managed make their country judenrein by shipping all the Jews out of their territory during WWII and they still get thanked for their actions.)

    There was a popular Broadway stage play some years ago about Heisenberg visiting Bohr during the war and trying to convince him to join the Nazi A-bomb project, which Bohr declined to do. (The Munich Project? What should we call it?)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @That Would Be Telling, @Frau Katze, @Gordo, @mc23, @nebulafox

    True-and it should be lauded-but a critical part of the story was the fact that the Danes had very cooperative German occupation authorities until late 1943. The flotilla to Sweden was prompted by a German diplomat leaking the deportation order from Hitler to the Danes.

    What the Italians managed to achieve was quite impressive, IMO. Over 80 percent of their Jews-a number swelled by refugees-survived the war. That was no mean feat in a country in their situation, both before and especially after summer 1943 when the country turned into an active war zone crawling with SS and active Wehrmacht.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @nebulafox

    Denmark's rational immigration policy in the 21st Century has a lot to do with the Danes having behaved impressively to save its Jews from the Nazis in the 1940s.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  284. @Steve Sailer
    @J.Ross

    I'm terribly sorry I missed the State of the Union address.

    Well, actually, no, I'm not. I'm sorry about all the ones I've watched over the years.

    Replies: @Mr Mox, @Wokechoke, @J.Ross, @Renard

    That’s how I feel about the Academy Awards broadcast. And the State of the Union address.

  285. @anonymous
    pyrhhus: "Factual problem...until the 20th century, Jews contributed virtually nothing to science..."

    Sailer: "And then they contributed a lot."

    Well, this depends on what your definition of "contribute" is. Are these "contributions" that would have occurred regardless of the presence of Jews - and perhaps even faster without them? For example, there's the chauvinist assertion above by Thomm that "If all of the world’s people were Ashkenazi Jews, human society would be about 350 years more advanced today than it is now."

    This is an unfalsifiable claim and impossible to know for certain either way - whether Jews have in fact on net sped things up or retarded them - because we don't live in this hypothetical counterfactual universe.

    For example, let's look at another group: Chinese people. If you look at Nobel Prizes in the hard sciences that have been won by people of Chinese descent who did their prize-winning work primarily in the diaspora (mostly the U.S.) there's a total of 9 (7 in Physics and 2 in Chemistry) whereas if you look at Nobel Prizes given to Chinese who did their work primarily in Mainland China there's only 1 (Tu Youyou for Physiology or Medicine).[1]

    Considering that the Mainland Chinese population is at least thirty times larger than the diaspora Chinese population, diaspora Chinese are some 270 times more likely to win Nobel prizes than are Mainland Chinese. If you just compare Chinese Americans to the Mainland Chinese they are approximately 1,500 times more likely per capita to win a Nobel.

    There seems to be something about American universities themselves as institutions which boosts the chances of winning a Nobel Prize by at least several hundred for people of Chinese descent.

    For another example, take the Brahmin of India. They are probably responsible for the absolute majority of the intellectual "contributions" of the Indian subcontinent despite only being around 4 or 5 percent of its population. Maybe this is because they are so genetically brilliant or perhaps it's because they benefit from a caste system which, while good for the Brahmins themselves (and perhaps good for bragging rights and reputational capital) this record of "contribution" does not seem to redound to the benefit of the rest of India's population. India suffers from a debilitating caste system the consequences of which are seen in their infamous lack of social trust society, backwards institutions and poor economy.[2] Without the caste system the performance of the low-caste Indians would likely rise to roughly meet that of the high-castes, and their society would, on the whole, benefit from the improved social capital of that arrangement.

    Another notable point about India's science Nobel winners is that almost all of the winners are deeply affiliated with Western institutions, often receiving their education in the West educated and typically doing their award-winning work while working within American or British universities/institutions.

    Are Jewish "contributions" to science, culture, economy and Nobels similarly a consequence not of their inherent genetic superiority but of their affiliation with Western institutions in which they've embedded themselves? Are their "contributions," similar to the Brahmin, a consequence of privileges which they've received and nepotism which they practice?

    Notably, between 1901 and 1939 Eastern Europe's huge population of more than seven million Jews won a grand total of 1 science Nobel (Elie Metchnikoff in Russia/Ukraine for Medicine). On the other hand, if you count Jewish Nobels won in Western Europe and the United States in the same years you find: 6 in Austria-Germany (for Medicine), 4 in Germany (for Chemistry), 1 in France for Chemistry, and 6 in Germany/Denmark/France/USA for Physics, totaling to 17.

    Thus, despite Eastern Europe having a much larger population of Jews it was in wealthy and high-trust Western Europe, with a total of only around 1 million Jews, where virtually all of the Jewish Nobel Prizes were won. With the one exception of Albert Michelson who won his Nobel in America - all of the others were in Western Europe and the absolute majority of those by Germany's comparatively tiny Jewish community of only several hundred thousand.

    That is, there was something specifically about Western European universities, and particularly German universities, which proved a very fertile ground for scientific discovery. Germany's Jews, despite being a tiny (roughly 1%) minority of the German population, managed to claim between 24% and 30.6% (8.625 to 11, depending on how you count) of German's science Nobels between 1901 and 1939.[3]

    Indeed, just being a Jew who lived in Germany instead of Eastern Europe in these years, your odds of winning a Nobel would increase from (conservatively) one in seven million to ~10 in five hundred thousand a 140x increase in one's odds at a Nobel. It's thus unsurprising that Jews were clamoring to get into Germany then just as 3rd-worlders are clamoring to get into Europe and America today.

    Was this due to Jewish net contributions to German society or was it due to something else - like a parasitic relationship with Germany's elite (and publicly funded) universities and research institutions, which the Jews had managed to cram themselves into.

    Are the Jews more like hostile elite and parasitic Brahmins of India or are their contributions genuinely positive sum?

    If Jews were really a fount of genius why does their genius only show itself when embedded within wealthy high-trust Western institutions? Why didn't they make Poland and Ukraine, where they lived in large numbers, the Nobel-winning super-stars of Europe?

    My strong impression is that, as with the Chinese and Indians, the Jews do very well when embedded within high-trust Western institutions because it's the institutions themselves that are responsible for the discoveries. If it were solely white Christians living within homogeneous white Christian states left to their own devices then these discoveries would be made roughly in the same time frame - if not, in all probability, faster - without the burden of a parasitic caste of nepotists on top of them, which only serves to make Europe and the United States more like a backwards caste-based society, like India.

    Whites don't need Asian, Jews or Hindus. Asians, Jews and Hindus need whites. Whites would be vastly better off without you.

    I could go into far more detail but this comment is already very long.

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_Nobel_laureates

    [2] According to my count 6/9 of India's Nobel Prize winners were won by Brahmins, 2/9 by other elite castes and only one (V. S. Naipaul for literature.

    [3]
    German Jewish Prizes 1901-1939:
    4 in Chemistry: Baeyer (half), Wallach (half), Willstatter, Haber
    4 in Medicine: Ehrlich, Meyerhof, Warburg (half), Loewi
    3 in Physics: Einstein, Franck, Gustav Hertz (1/8th)

    Depending on if you count factional Jews as full Jews you get 11/36 or 30.6% or if you add up the fractions you get 8.625/36 or 24%.

    Replies: @Renard

    Thanks for the number crunching. If we had even remotely honest media none of this would surprise anyone, much less constitute apostasy.

  286. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Anon

    I used to think that Steve was being clever, but now, I'm beginning to think that he really is confused about why certain things happen.

    Despite almost daily mocking of the MSM, Steve never asks who pays for all of this silliness. I think willful ignorance is a prerequisite for Steve's class.

    I mean, Charles Murray recently tweeted that he couldn't think of one negative thing about Jews being allowed to rise to their level of prominence over the past 200 years. Not one.

    Steve lives in that same world.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @mc23, @Renard

    Charles Murray recently tweeted that he couldn’t think of one negative thing about Jews being allowed to rise to their level of prominence over the past 200 years. Not one.

    Coincidentally, Charles Murray gets his books released by prestige publishers.

  287. Nolan was allowed to make a Diversity-deprived flick because it lovingly portrays yet another jewish hoax, viz: nuclear weapons. Don’t you dare oppose your masters, goy, or you’ll get NUKED – cue vigorous handrubbing and maniacal cackling. Which proved to be a totally unnecessary flex, as yet another Jewish hoax viz covid had goys cowering behind their cuckdiapers for two years. If nukes are real, Israel woulda deployed them against Palestine long ago.

    Oppenheimer is a three-hour jewish flex reminding goys to be good little docile cucks, OR ELSE. I’ll most def watch it when Redbox ends its kovfefe with the studio and makes it available for two dollah.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    "If nukes are real"

    LOL

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jack D

  288. anonymous[439] • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    @SFG


    though sadly I missed Top Gun: Maverick.
     
    Top Gun: Maverick was an estrogen-soaked rehash of the oldest and lamest themes in moviemaking. It was absolutely awful. If you can make it through the first 10 minutes and watch Tom Cruise safely "eject" from an experimental aircraft that disintegrates while pushing Mach 11, you'll have an idea of how accurate the film is with respect to the physics of aviation. If you then watch him just casually steal an F/A-18 Hornet and gatecrash the test range without anybody being the wiser, you'll know how accurate it was with respect to military practices. And this is all just filler for its extremely thin human-interest story.

    TGM was like watching a woman's idea of what goes on at "airplane camp," where they imagine the fighter pilots behave no differently than the bickering girls they work with at Target.

    Replies: @Shale boi, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anonymous, @SFG

    TGM was like watching a woman’s idea of what goes on at “airplane camp,” where they imagine the fighter pilots behave no differently than the bickering girls they work with at Target.

    One out of five naval aviators is female. All the air crew in the Navy flyover at the Superbowl (four F/A-18s and an F-35) were women.

    Above, Commander Rebecca Calder, 2004 graduate of Navy Fighter Weapons School (AKA TopGun), combat veteran of Operations Enduring Freedom, Southern Watch and Iraqi Freedom, flying the F/A-18, accrued some 2,500 flight hours and 421 carrier traps in her career.
    How about you?

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @anonymous

    You might have missed the point.

  289. @nebulafox
    @Ben Kurtz

    True-and it should be lauded-but a critical part of the story was the fact that the Danes had very cooperative German occupation authorities until late 1943. The flotilla to Sweden was prompted by a German diplomat leaking the deportation order from Hitler to the Danes.

    What the Italians managed to achieve was quite impressive, IMO. Over 80 percent of their Jews-a number swelled by refugees-survived the war. That was no mean feat in a country in their situation, both before and especially after summer 1943 when the country turned into an active war zone crawling with SS and active Wehrmacht.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Denmark’s rational immigration policy in the 21st Century has a lot to do with the Danes having behaved impressively to save its Jews from the Nazis in the 1940s.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Steve Sailer


    Denmark’s rational immigration policy in the 21st Century has a lot to do with the Danes having behaved impressively to save its Jews from the Nazis in the 1940s.
     
    Can you expand upon that?
  290. @James B. Shearer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "...never demeaning others .."

    I took a class from Feynman and this is not correct. Students were afraid to ask questions because he sometimes gave demeaning responses. This was before the requirement that teachers preface every answer with "that's a good question".

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @J.Ross

    I’d love to have an anecdote about how I asked Richard Feynman a question and he gave a demeaning answer.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Steve Sailer


    I’d love to have an anecdote about how I asked Richard Feynman a question and he gave a demeaning answer.
     
    Let’s try Feynman AI:

    Sailer: Why is it called Higgs boatswain?

    Feynman AI: Are you a fuckin’ mongoloid?
     

    Replies: @Jack D

  291. @Steve Sailer
    @James B. Shearer

    I'd love to have an anecdote about how I asked Richard Feynman a question and he gave a demeaning answer.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I’d love to have an anecdote about how I asked Richard Feynman a question and he gave a demeaning answer.

    Let’s try Feynman AI:

    Sailer: Why is it called Higgs boatswain?

    Feynman AI: Are you a fuckin’ mongoloid?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    It's a funny joke but it works better in print than in real life. If you had asked Feynman about a Higgs bosn instead of boson it probably would have gone right past him given his own thick New Yawk accent. He probably wondaed why everyone else in America tawked so funny anyway.

    Nowadays, it's hard to imagine a highly educated American born person with such a thick regional accent but in those days it wasn't unusual. It is also possible that Feynman didn't make the slightest effort to get rid of his accent because he didn't consider it important just like he considered it unimportant to memorize the names and dates of personages from American history when you could always just look these up in a book if you needed to. Still it is startling today when you hear old recordings of one of the foremost geniuses of the 20th century and he sounds like a NY cab driver (or at least the way NY cab drivers USED to sound).

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Anon 2

  292. @Colin Wright
    @Ron Unz


    'I think he claims that Americans didn’t consider Polish or Irish people “white” until around 1950 or so.'
     
    There did used to be a very strong consciousness of the divide between what one might term 'legacy Americans' and the various immigrant groups who poured in at the end of the Nineteenth Century. See references in Sherwood Anderson's Poor White and the film Our Town. Poles, Italians, Jews, the Irish -- these were all 'others.'

    ...and it continued for quite a while. My second grade-or-so reader had a short story about the little Italian boy who wants a baseball glove. His father at first resists the purchase -- 'What is this beezabol?' -- but eventually sees the light. That would have been around 1965. The notion that Italian immigrants could be so alien as to have no idea what baseball was still made sense to somebody.

    I don't know if many still saw Italians, etc as 'not white' -- but they don't necessarily seem to have been seen as American. Here, see the rant of the Nevada Senator in one of the Godfather sequels. That would have been set around 1960. It seems plausible to me.

    But of course it is all relative. DeSantis looks pretty damned American if you first contemplate Ilhan Omar. I had a bit of an epiphany when I heard a second-generation Mexican carpenter rant about a Guatemalan we both employed.

    It dawned on me that Jaime was a lot closer to me than he was to Marcelino. Marcelino, you could practically hear the wind flutes.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Ron Unz, @Wielgus

    Up until around 1950, urban parts in particular in the USA still had large numbers of non-English-language publications, catering to “hyphenated Americans” who did not yet read English regularly. These publications were typically in Italian, Polish, Yiddish or other languages. They began going out of business around that time – their readership was at last switching to English, and a certain suspicion of foreign influences was a by-product of the “Red Scare” in post-war America. So as one tiny example, Charles Buchinsky decided that it would help his career to be called Charles Bronson.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
  293. @Intelligent Dasein
    @SFG


    though sadly I missed Top Gun: Maverick.
     
    Top Gun: Maverick was an estrogen-soaked rehash of the oldest and lamest themes in moviemaking. It was absolutely awful. If you can make it through the first 10 minutes and watch Tom Cruise safely "eject" from an experimental aircraft that disintegrates while pushing Mach 11, you'll have an idea of how accurate the film is with respect to the physics of aviation. If you then watch him just casually steal an F/A-18 Hornet and gatecrash the test range without anybody being the wiser, you'll know how accurate it was with respect to military practices. And this is all just filler for its extremely thin human-interest story.

    TGM was like watching a woman's idea of what goes on at "airplane camp," where they imagine the fighter pilots behave no differently than the bickering girls they work with at Target.

    Replies: @Shale boi, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anonymous, @SFG

    Honestly? It’s a Hollywood movie. I don’t expect realism on that sort of thing. If they accidentally made one of the dumb, stupid action movies they used to, that’s good enough for me.

  294. @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    “And then they contributed a lot.”

    Probably the most important contribution is “anti-whiteness” (however it is defined), right? At least that is what you casually imply.

    Replies: @awry

    Yes that was part of the package. So whites got a “gift from God”, it was a package full of chocolate, but poisoned by “God’s people”.
    But who knows, maybe Amerimutts don’t mind being replaced and canceled in exchange of living in the parasitic superpower run by the yid world masters. After all it they are still pretty prosperous. It was their choice, but not a completely fair deal, because they were mostly blissfully unaware of what is coming for them.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @awry

    “Yes that was part of the package. So whites got a “gift from God”, it was a package full of chocolate, but poisoned by “God’s people”.”

    What are you even talking about?

    “But who knows, maybe Amerimutts”

    You mean white Europeans who intermarried.

    “don’t mind being replaced and canceled in exchange of living in the parasitic superpower run by the yid world masters.”

    So what are you doing about it?

    “After all it they are still pretty prosperous. It was their choice, but not a completely fair deal, because they were mostly blissfully unaware of what is coming for them.”

    So white people despite their collective intelligence and high time preference are easily duped by Jew, but not you. Got it.

  295. @Wokechoke
    @Wielgus

    Sioux City Iowa born n bred. Lol.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    He taught in Russian in the USSR, but apparently had a noticeable American accent. He was not treated with any particular favouritism in the Soviet Union despite his espionage help but from his account he was lucky to avoid the Gulag. He might have aroused suspicion as an American, especially in the late Stalin years. He was only given a medal posthumously, in 2007.

  296. @QCIC
    @Thomm

    Morty,

    This doesn't ring true. It seems modern Jewish achievements have largely been empowered by interaction with the host society.

    +++

    Did you mean 15,000 BC?

    Replies: @Sir Didymus

    Modern European societies created a framework where Jews could become successful without being swindlers the way their ancestors were.

  297. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Good point. Commenter Malla has made compelling arguments about British rule being a net positive.

    This is the film about the army led by Subhas Chandra Bose.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forgotten_Army_-_Azaadi_Ke_Liye

    But ultimately neither the Chinese nor Japanese were going to accept British imperialism in Tibet and Yangtze, thus supported Indian Independence.

    The Chinese supported Gandhi; the Japanese (and Germans) supported Bose.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Subhas_Chandra_Bose_meeting_Adolf_Hitler.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/19430610_meeting_bose_tojo.png

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Gandhi_Chiang_Madame_Chiang_10_Feb_1942_India.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/%E4%B8%AD%E5%8D%B0%E5%8F%8B%E8%AA%BC%E6%B5%B7%E5%A0%B1.jpg

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Wielgus

    In the top photo, the man on the left is Paul Schmidt, often brought in to interpret for Hitler, presumably Bose was speaking in English.
    Schmidt was indicted at Nuremberg because of his links to the Nazi leadership, but they were so short of document translators that he was employed, reading out his English translation of German court documents to stenographers who transcribed his translation. He was paid for his work with bottles of Coca-Cola and packets of cigarettes. He was eventually acquitted and set up a translation agency in Munich. He died in 1970.

  298. @Steve Sailer
    @pyrrhus

    And then they contributed a lot.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Sir Didymus

    If you can call guys like Jordan Belfort, Bernie Madoff and Sam Bankman-Fried contributors.

  299. @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    Oh, a Lutheran. So that's why he served the Soviet Union.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Patrick McNally

    It was Hitler’s politics which drove Fuchs into joining the Communist Party of Germany (KPD).

    —–
    At Leipzig University, Fuchs joined the student branch of the Social Democratic Party, the SPD, and also the Reichsbanner, an SPD paramilitary organisation formed in opposition to the Nazis’ SA, the Brownshirts… He passed out leaflets for the SPD, and spoke at student meetings…

    He talked to Communist students, and found that two things set him against the Communists. One was that these students would follow the party line strictly and uncritically, even though they might disagree with it privately on some points. The other was that while the Communist Party was calling for united action with the Social Democrats, it was at the same time denouncing the Social Democratic leaders in violent terms.
    —–
    — Norman Moss, Klaus Fuchs: The Man Who Stole the Atom Bomb, p. 6.

    At this point in 1930-1, there was nothing in Fuchs’ record to indicate that he would ever switch from the SPD to the KPD. His political shifts started in 1932 over the issue of how to deal with Hitler.

    —–
    The Fuchs family moved to North Germany… Fuchs himself entered Kiel University.

    There, he joined a student organisation which included members of both SPD and the Communist Party, and he was made Chairman. They approached Nazi students and tried to persuade them to change their ideas… The Nazi student organisation at the University was campaigning for lower fees. Fuchs decided to take them at their word, and he proposed that the two groups organise jointly a student strike for reduced fees…

    He broke with the SPD over the party’s policy in the 1932 Presidential election. The Social Democrats supported the old President, General von Hindenburg, as the alternative to Hitler, who was a rival candidate… When the Communist Party ran its leader … Fuchs offered to speak for him, and he was expelled from the SPD. Hindenburg won the election.

    Shortly after this, the Conservative Chancellor, Franz von Papen, dismissed the elected Social Democratic Government of Prussia, the largest German state, sending in police to drag the members out of their offices. Fuchs went to the Communist Party headquarters and found old friends from the SPD Reichsbanner there, ready to take to the streets to fight for Social Democracy in Prussia, all of them turning to the party that seemed to be taking the most active role in resistance to the Right. But the Prussian Social Democrats limited their resistance to an appeal to Germany’s Supreme Court.

    Fuchs joined the Communist Party, accepting now the need for party discipline in the fight against Nazism. His brother Gerhardt and his sisters Elizabeth and Kristel joined in the same year. They all discussed their reasons with their father. He disagreed with their decision, but he was not entirely unsympathetic, for he was also disappointed in the Social Democratic leaders’ attitude to the Nazi threat.
    —–
    — Ibid, pp. 7-9.

    It’s clear that if there had not been the issue of Hitler rising to power, then Fuchs would simply have gone on to become a Social Democrat. The indecisiveness of the SPD in the face of this was what motivated Fuchs to set aside his original rejection of the KPD.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
    @Patrick McNally

    None of that sheds any light on why he would pass secrets to the Soviet Union, since the U.S. was fighting against Germany as well. He seems to have been more of a fanatical communist than one would gather from your account. Which would be a good thing if true.

    Replies: @Patrick McNally

  300. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack D

    Jack, there's nothing left to argue about. This war is over. Everyone knows it. Why do you think Jabba the Hutt, aka Nuland, retired? The best that the WH can do is keep this going until the election, which is doable but after that, things get bad.

    Ukraine is running out of men. Their air defense systems are running out of missiles and are getting picked off. We can't supply enough of anything. And that fool Syrskyi keeps feeding soldiers into obvious cauldrons.

    I'm not saying Russia will takeover all of Ukraine, mainly because Russia has never wanted all of Ukraine. Who would? But the question is what Russia wants in terms of land and guarantees. Yes, we've reached the point of how this is going to end on Russia's terms.

    The Russians quite obviously want the Donbas and Kharkiv as well as the land bridge. That's going to happen. They'll also demand Ukrainian neutrality and no NATO membership for what's left of Ukraine, as well as no long-range missiles. These are all done.

    What's up for negotiation, though each day that goes by, this becomes less true are:

    1. Odessa and linking Transnistria to Russia

    2. All of eastern Ukraine as a buffer against the west.

    If Ukraine and the psychopath neocons had any brains, they'd fall back, build strong defensive lines and negotiate now with Putin. Tell him, sure, you'll win eventually but our new strategy will make it extremely painful, so let's work out a deal.

    You get Donbas, Kharkiv and the land bridge. The rest of eastern Ukraine remains in Ukraine but is a demilitarized zone. Ukraine and NATO sign an agreement that Ukraine will never join NATO. Ukraine also will not allow long-range missiles on its territory.

    I kind of doubt Putin would take that deal, but he might. The war is over, Jack. It's just a question of what Ukraine can salvage.

    Replies: @BB753, @Jack D, @HA

    “The rest of eastern Ukraine remains in Ukraine but is a demilitarized zone. Ukraine and NATO sign an agreement that Ukraine will never join NATO. Ukraine also will not allow long-range missiles on its territory.”

    That’s only gonna happen with regime change in Kiev. No more Western assets, no more nazi banderites, no more State Department/CIA intrusion: Russia would have to install a pro-Russian government and regime or else it’ll be back to square one: color revolutions, Maidan coups and civil war and ultimately war against Russia.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @BB753

    Vicki could tell you that the State Department has always found regime change in Kiev far more convenient than in Moscow.

    Replies: @BB753

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @BB753

    Agree, which is why I don't think the Russians will accept that option. It forces them to trust the West and that's not going to happen. Multiple times, Putin has kicked himself for being tricked by the West. I'd suspect that they're going to find a solution on the ground and not in negotiations.

  301. @Thomm
    @Pixo

    If all of the world’s people were Ashkenazi Jews, human society would be about 350 years more advanced today than it is now. Their excellence in science, entertainment, finance, law, economics, literature, and more would be able to manifest on a much larger scale. Plus, if everyone is Jewish, there are no non-Jews for them to manipulate, so they will work in unison towards the big picture.

    The technological level would be comparable to what we see in Star Trek : The Next Generation. We would have warp drive, replicators, holodecks, and an interstellar civilization by now. We would already have started spreading out across the galaxy.

    This, of course, requires the genetic component of Ashkenazi Jews. Converting WN wiggers (avg. IQ: 70) to Judaism will not suddenly add 40+ points to their respective IQs.

    Even non-Jews with Jewish names, such as Morris Seligman Dees and Whoopi Goldberg (who still retains her original legal name Caryn Johnson) became much more successful than they would have been without the Jewish name. Ms. Johnson gave it to herself, so is even smarter than Mr. Dees. Ms. Johnson is an EGOT, only the fourth woman and first black person to complete the quartet of major awards. It is safe to say her talent is not on par with previous EGOT winners like Rita Moreno.

    Hey, it is true. The WN wiggers here routinely say that if all humans where black Africans, we would still be at around 1500 BC. By that same token, if all humans were Ashkenazi Jews, we would be 350 years ahead of where we are today.

    Thanks,
    - Mordecai Velvel Rabinowitz

    Replies: @awry, @QCIC, @pyrrhus, @Redneck Farmer, @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Slim, @AndrewR

    You have to go back

  302. @James B. Shearer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "...never demeaning others .."

    I took a class from Feynman and this is not correct. Students were afraid to ask questions because he sometimes gave demeaning responses. This was before the requirement that teachers preface every answer with "that's a good question".

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @J.Ross

    I was writing about colleagues; then, he generally was loved by students, which is attested by numerous testimonies.

  303. @AnotherDad
    @Corvinus


    Nothing to see here…
     
    There's plenty to see here, you just don't want to see it. Ludicrous abuse of the "justice" system for political prosecution.

    The minoritarians have abused the legal system for decades to institute policies they could not get--often would not even have the courage to run on--at the ballot box.

    Now the Parasite Party has moved on to show trials where someone can just make up stuff from decades ago and essentially steal from their political opponents and if you object and say "bullshit" they loot you even more. (We really--any society that wants to survive--needs to stop this ridiculous pampering of women. This woman had her chance to accuse Trump--and Les Moonves (she was apparently smoking hot 50-something rape bait for powerful men in NYC)--of raping way back in whatever year she's claiming now. Back when there would be store clerks and customers and store video to provide evidence. Women can not simultaneous be "you go girl!" can-do-anything adults and complete helpless children. Pick one.)

    The other NY case, there is no counterparty alleging fraud--no failure to pay premiums or loans by Trump, no bogus claims. Rather officials of the state of NY decide to have a civil prosecution of Trump. Then when other businessmen get worried about the ramifications to this lawlessness, the governor announces basically no don't worry, we're just prosecuting Trump.

    We're in "show me the man, I'll show you the crime" territory.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Guest007

    One may want to ask the jury about the accusations. And since it was a civil trial, the standards was more likely than not. Of course, it does not help that Trump is incapable of testifying at a trial or giving a sane deposition.

  304. @Jack D

    But because of its historical context, the cast is nearly all white. The biographical film, directed by Christopher Nolan, is set largely during World War II, when the military and most of American society was still segregated. Its plot — about the classified program to develop the atomic bomb — is centered on powerful and privileged men who work at the nation’s most elite academic institutions.
     
    Yes, the Manhattan Project was just like a pre-WWII WASP country club. No Jews allowed.

    Oops, no, scratch that. Never mind.

    Groves had to make a devil's bargain. He could either let a bunch of Jews and Communists and Jewish Communists and Communist Jews and Communist Jew Commies with funny foreign accents work on the bomb or he could not have a bomb (at least not before the war was over).

    It would be like trying to do some sort of large project today that requires hiring a lot of college professors but you could only hire the ones who were registered Republicans. You could forget about it because there wouldn't be enough of them to do the project.

    Still I am amazed that Nolan did not sneak in at least a few blacks - only a director of Nolan's stature could have gotten away with this. Otherwise there are blacks in all sorts of historical movies where they don't belong nowadays. It's almost mandatory.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @James J. O'Meara, @tyrone, @Nachum, @MEH 0910

    Well, the movie Atonement (2007) very prominently stuck a black soldier at Dunkirk. Ten years later, Nolan made a movie all about Dunkirk, not a black person to be seen. (In the same year, a movie about Churchill at that same moment had him being inspired by a classics-quoting black man he meets on the Underground.)

    Could be Nolan just doesn’t care.

    • Replies: @Prester John
    @Nachum

    If he doesn't, then "bravo!" He would be that rare specimen in Hollyworld: a person of integrity.

  305. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack D

    Jack, there's nothing left to argue about. This war is over. Everyone knows it. Why do you think Jabba the Hutt, aka Nuland, retired? The best that the WH can do is keep this going until the election, which is doable but after that, things get bad.

    Ukraine is running out of men. Their air defense systems are running out of missiles and are getting picked off. We can't supply enough of anything. And that fool Syrskyi keeps feeding soldiers into obvious cauldrons.

    I'm not saying Russia will takeover all of Ukraine, mainly because Russia has never wanted all of Ukraine. Who would? But the question is what Russia wants in terms of land and guarantees. Yes, we've reached the point of how this is going to end on Russia's terms.

    The Russians quite obviously want the Donbas and Kharkiv as well as the land bridge. That's going to happen. They'll also demand Ukrainian neutrality and no NATO membership for what's left of Ukraine, as well as no long-range missiles. These are all done.

    What's up for negotiation, though each day that goes by, this becomes less true are:

    1. Odessa and linking Transnistria to Russia

    2. All of eastern Ukraine as a buffer against the west.

    If Ukraine and the psychopath neocons had any brains, they'd fall back, build strong defensive lines and negotiate now with Putin. Tell him, sure, you'll win eventually but our new strategy will make it extremely painful, so let's work out a deal.

    You get Donbas, Kharkiv and the land bridge. The rest of eastern Ukraine remains in Ukraine but is a demilitarized zone. Ukraine and NATO sign an agreement that Ukraine will never join NATO. Ukraine also will not allow long-range missiles on its territory.

    I kind of doubt Putin would take that deal, but he might. The war is over, Jack. It's just a question of what Ukraine can salvage.

    Replies: @BB753, @Jack D, @HA

    Don’t count your chickens before they are hatched.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack D

    They've already hatched.

    I realize that insane neocons such as yourself can't see this, but the Ukraine war has been a disaster for the Global American Empire (GAE). Nothing fatal, but a turning point.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    , @Mark G.
    @Jack D

    Eventually most Americans will become about as eager to continue sending more money over to the Ukraine as they are now to run out and get that next Covid vaccine booster shot.

    Replies: @Jack D, @HA

    , @res
    @Jack D


    Don’t count your chickens before they are hatched.
     
    Sounds like a good policy for everyone in the Russia-Ukraine conversation. I seem to recall some chicken counting during the ruble crash in early 2022.
  306. @kaganovitch
    @Jack D


    I have a cousin thru marriage (no blood relation) and he tells of his grandfather who arrived as a HS age teenager in the early 20th century and very quickly studied up on his English and got into Yale (before they had Jewish quotas) and then Yale law school and eventually became a judge in New Haven. It seems almost impossible to catch up that quickly but they did. I think it’s hilarious/sad when they interview some illegal alien who has been here for 20 years and the interview is in Spanish because in 20 years said alien hasn’t learned two words of Ingles.
     
    I have family with a similar career trajectory, but to be fair I knew many Jewish immigrants who learned no English and conducted their lives entirely in Yiddish. If one lives in an ethnic enclave as these immigrants did and do, one can get away with that.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Yes, that is true too, perhaps especially in the ultra-Orthodox community. When I was growing up I knew the shochet (ritual slaughterer) of Lakewood. He was a saintly elderly man with a long white beard and he spoke not a word of English. His assistant was an African American man and he spoke to him in Yiddish also. I don’t think my grandmother ever really learned English either.

    But her kids sure did. Both of my uncles were in business and they spoke virtually unaccented English. If you listened real hard you could catch that they had a slight accent but for the most part their English was very good even though they were not highly educated people.

  307. @Jack D
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Don't count your chickens before they are hatched.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Mark G., @res

    They’ve already hatched.

    I realize that insane neocons such as yourself can’t see this, but the Ukraine war has been a disaster for the Global American Empire (GAE). Nothing fatal, but a turning point.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    When Jack's right, he's right. There's still time for the Neocons to get us all killed rather than lose the war they provoked.

  308. @OldJewishGuy
    “It’s amazing the Fat Man bomb went off at all without Hidden Figures to check von Neumann’s math.”

    That’s a great line. I wish I’d written it. Thanks.

    Replies: @George

    “It’s amazing the Fat Man bomb went off at all without Hidden Figures to check von Neumann’s math.”

    “His physics was good”, said his student Snyder, “but his arithmetic awful.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Robert_Oppenheimer

  309. @Jack D
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Don't count your chickens before they are hatched.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Mark G., @res

    Eventually most Americans will become about as eager to continue sending more money over to the Ukraine as they are now to run out and get that next Covid vaccine booster shot.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Mark G.

    Yes, this is a weakness of democracies. People have short attention spans. Putin can stay focused and doesn't have to worry about losing elections.

    But dictatorships have weaknesses of their own. For one thing, Putin is going to kick off sooner or later. The logic of dictatorship means that you cannot allow any strong #2 to emerge who might challenge you so Putin has surrounded himself with a bunch of midget rivals who will surely fight with each other like cats and dogs when he dies.

    Of course the US is not Ukraine's only supporter. And again, as far as the US withdrawing support for Ukraine, don't count your chickens before they are hatched. Right now there is (shockingly!) politics going on in Washington which has held up the aid, but if I had to guess, Ukraine aid is going to come thru in the end.

    And it's not "the Ukraine". It's Ukraine - "the Ukraine" is some sort of annoying Rushist tic. Maybe once upon a time it meant "the borderlands" but now it's the name of a country, the same as the Russia. (The Czar's title was (at least in English - Russian has no articles) "Czar of all THE Russias".
    No one says that anymore although it actually explains a lot - Putin would also like to be Czar of all "the Russias". Russias plural meaning that in addition to Russia proper, Russian World also includes White Russia (Belarus) and New Russia (Ukraine). Maybe Alaska too!

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Patrick McNally, @Johann Ricke

    , @HA
    @Mark G.

    "will become about as eager to continue sending more money over to the Ukraine as they are now to run out and get that next Covid vaccine booster shot."

    Doesn't mean that "experimental" technology is going away any time soon, does it? As Trump himself famously noted "The Vaccines that saved us from COVID are now being used to help beat Cancer – Turning setback into comeback!"

    Man, even TRUMP realizes that his anti-vaxx followers are a bunch of knuckle-dragging troglodytes. Sad.

    And don't worry -- to the extent the CDC is not haranguing us to get those boosters as much as you'd like, I suspect it's partly because they have no problem with a bunch of old Fox-news-watching geezers deciding to kick off early from COVID in an election year. So if you want to pass on that vaccine this year, I suspect they'll be OK with that.

  310. @YetAnotherAnon
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    "Indian soldiers, as they were defeating the Japanese, being ordered by their British commanders to lay down their arms and surrender."

    In a film. Made by Indians?

    (Indian cinema loves tales of the Raj and moustache-twirling Brit villains. My backpacking son had a few days work as a "Brit soldier" in Bombay. Very smart in his red uniform.)

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Wielgus

    I’ve seen a couple of films like that. I wonder where they get the “Anglo” actors from.
    I saw a Turkish TV series about their independence war after the collapse of the Ottomans. Scottish Highlanders in the British Army were depicted, not very convincingly. They clearly found a few fairer-skinned Turks and dressed them up in kilts. Then again, T.E. Lawrence wasn’t too convincing playing an inhabitant of the region, either…

  311. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "It’s amazing the Fat Man bomb went off at all without Hidden Figures to check von Neumann’s math."

    It's amazing Uncle Samantha didn't bother filming the first ever military use of atomic bombs.

    It's amazing that damage caused by atomic bombs looks 100% identical to damage caused by Uncle Samantha's sustained firebombing campaigns of Japanese cities.

    It's amazing I can find only CGI reenactments of atomic bomb detonations, but no film or video.

    It's amazing that no one has used an atomic bomb since WWII.

    It's amazing Boomers think atomic bombs are real.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @epebble, @p38ace, @AlmaMater

    Quiet, blabbermouth, you are giving away the secret!

  312. @Mark G.
    @Jack D

    Eventually most Americans will become about as eager to continue sending more money over to the Ukraine as they are now to run out and get that next Covid vaccine booster shot.

    Replies: @Jack D, @HA

    Yes, this is a weakness of democracies. People have short attention spans. Putin can stay focused and doesn’t have to worry about losing elections.

    But dictatorships have weaknesses of their own. For one thing, Putin is going to kick off sooner or later. The logic of dictatorship means that you cannot allow any strong #2 to emerge who might challenge you so Putin has surrounded himself with a bunch of midget rivals who will surely fight with each other like cats and dogs when he dies.

    Of course the US is not Ukraine’s only supporter. And again, as far as the US withdrawing support for Ukraine, don’t count your chickens before they are hatched. Right now there is (shockingly!) politics going on in Washington which has held up the aid, but if I had to guess, Ukraine aid is going to come thru in the end.

    And it’s not “the Ukraine”. It’s Ukraine – “the Ukraine” is some sort of annoying Rushist tic. Maybe once upon a time it meant “the borderlands” but now it’s the name of a country, the same as the Russia. (The Czar’s title was (at least in English – Russian has no articles) “Czar of all THE Russias”.
    No one says that anymore although it actually explains a lot – Putin would also like to be Czar of all “the Russias”. Russias plural meaning that in addition to Russia proper, Russian World also includes White Russia (Belarus) and New Russia (Ukraine). Maybe Alaska too!

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Jack D


    And it’s not “the Ukraine”. It’s Ukraine – “the Ukraine” is some sort of annoying Rushist tic.
     
    Bullshit. The truth is just the reverse. It always was 'the Ukraine.' 'Ukraine' is a typical new-age word game. It implies that the Ukraine is a nation rather than a region, when in fact before 1991 it was the reverse.

    You're incredible. You'll claim literally anything if it will advance your argument. 'Annoying Rushist tic' my ass; calling it 'the Ukraine' is as reasonable as spelling the name of the major city 'Kiev.' Both are standard English usage; sure as the capital of Italy is Rome or the big city in Bavaria is Munich.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @HA

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack D


    Right now there is (shockingly!) politics going on in Washington which has held up the aid, but if I had to guess, Ukraine aid is going to come thru in the end.

     

    You might be surprised that I agree. I don't know if they'll get the $60 billion, but they'll get something in that ballpark.

    But it doesn't matter. No amount of dollars can buy missiles, shells and platforms that don't exist. We can't produce enough to keep up with the Russians, not even close. So, sure, we can keep Ukraine's economy running and their oligarchs from killing Zelensky, but we can't supply their military with enough munitions.

    Ukraine was always outgunned by a factor of 5 or 7 to one in artillery, which is why their casualty rate is so high, but what's killing them now (literally) is that their air defenses just don't have enough missiles to deter the Russians. It's the glide bombs that are really changing things on the ground. Ukraine has no answer for that.

    Once the war became a battle of manpower and military industrial capacity, it was game over for Ukraine. Sure, it took a year or 18 months for the Russians to grind down the Ukrainians, but we've reached that point where Ukraine simply can't take too many more body blows - and there's no way to stop Russia from delivering them.

    Our own side has acknowledged that we can't keep up with the Russians' production of weapons. In a war of attrition, that amounts to say, "We lose." So, send all the dollars that you want to keep Project Ukraine afloat until after the election, but we can't send enough of what they really need.
    , @Patrick McNally
    @Jack D

    There's been a corruption of words. An older version was to speak of "Ukrainia" and "the Ukraine" the same way one may speak of "Slovakia" and "the Slovak" or of "Czechia" and "the Czech." The word "Ukrainia" apparently dropped off so far from use that "the Ukraine" simply ended up substituting as "Ukraine."

    , @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    The logic of dictatorship means that you cannot allow any strong #2 to emerge who might challenge you so Putin has surrounded himself with a bunch of midget rivals who will surely fight with each other like cats and dogs when he dies.
     
    It's no different with democracies - all leaders seek to suppress their rivals. The difference is that dictators are the state, and can use its coercive powers to suppress those rivals much as you'd flip a switch to turn off the light, whereas democrats must work through persuasion, and often fail.
  313. “After years of criticism for overlooking female directors”

    So true. The greatest female director (and it’s not even close), Leni Riefenstahl, has been overlooked for close to a century. I can never take the Oscars seriously with this slight. I am being completely unironic when I say this.

  314. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Steve Sailer


    I’d love to have an anecdote about how I asked Richard Feynman a question and he gave a demeaning answer.
     
    Let’s try Feynman AI:

    Sailer: Why is it called Higgs boatswain?

    Feynman AI: Are you a fuckin’ mongoloid?
     

    Replies: @Jack D

    It’s a funny joke but it works better in print than in real life. If you had asked Feynman about a Higgs bosn instead of boson it probably would have gone right past him given his own thick New Yawk accent. He probably wondaed why everyone else in America tawked so funny anyway.

    Nowadays, it’s hard to imagine a highly educated American born person with such a thick regional accent but in those days it wasn’t unusual. It is also possible that Feynman didn’t make the slightest effort to get rid of his accent because he didn’t consider it important just like he considered it unimportant to memorize the names and dates of personages from American history when you could always just look these up in a book if you needed to. Still it is startling today when you hear old recordings of one of the foremost geniuses of the 20th century and he sounds like a NY cab driver (or at least the way NY cab drivers USED to sound).

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    Feynman's accent was OK.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Anon 2
    @Jack D

    Re: Feynman as one of the foremost geniuses of the 20th century?

    As a student I once had a conversation with Feynman, so I can say that in his
    later years he was very approachable but it’s an exaggeration to claim he was
    one of the foremost geniuses of the 20th century. The key fact is that until
    the 1950s, i.e., until the postwar years when Europe lay in ruins, American
    physics was second-rate. Oppenheimer is regarded by physicists as mostly
    a bureaucrat, something that the movie carefully conceals. He never
    published a long paper, and was too scattered in his interests, third rate
    at best as a physicist.

    As to Feynman, he is best known as the inventor of so-called Feynman
    diagrams, a particle approach to quantum field theory. Many regard it
    as a pedagogical gimmick without a deeper meaning. The scandal is
    that Feynman lacks a famous equation named after himself. There is
    an anecdote about it: Dirac, famous for the Dirac equation, once
    asked Feynman at a conference, “I have an equation. Do you?”
    Feynman’s IQ was only 125, nothing to write home about. Once
    when he was asked to give a series of lectures in Brazil, he started
    studying Spanish, etc. But there is no question that he was a great
    pedagogue.

    This fits the standard view that Europe is Greece, and the U.S., due
    to its anti-intellectualism, is Rome. It tells you everything you
    want to know that a middle-brow composer like Gershwin is
    regarded as great. The same goes for a middle-brow director
    like Spielberg. The U.S, turns everything into a business. Movies
    are evaluated primarily by their box office receipts, music by
    Billboard rankings. Because of this America used to have a pop
    culture that was the 7th Wonder of the World, but little in the
    way of a high culture.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

  315. @nebulafox
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Right up until the war years, the British took a much more relaxed view of Japanese imperial ambitions than the Americans did. One reason among many that Chiang Kai-Shek despised them with the passion of a thousand suns.

    >Commenter Malla has made compelling arguments about British rule being a net positive.

    I think there's a fine middle ground to be taken in acknowledging that the British tended to be most politically skilled colonial power by a country mile (one can consult Vietnam or Indonesia in the late 1940s to understand that as horrific as the Partition was, things could have become a lot worse if the British decided to hang on) and saying they were benevolent.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Right up until the war years, the British took a much more relaxed view of Japanese imperial ambitions than the Americans did.

    British soldiers fought alongside the Japanese against Germans in WWI. Britain and (((Jacob Schiff))) were the sponsors of Japanese imperialism.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Tsingtao

    British soldiers congratulating Imperial Japanese troops on their recent victory over the Chinese Kuomintang. Shanghai International Settlement, China, 22 November 1937.
    Chiang understood the wedge between Churchill and Roosevelt– America wasn’t going to expend resources to help Britain get back its Asian colonies.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    British soldiers congratulating Imperial Japanese troops on their recent victory over the Chinese Kuomintang. Shanghai International Settlement, China, 22 November 1937.
     
    I'd say that by 1937, any such displays of enthusiasm were less than sincere. The marriage was long over; it was only three weeks after that photo was taken that Japanese artillery opened fire on HMS Ladybird.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

  316. @Steve Sailer
    @nebulafox

    Denmark's rational immigration policy in the 21st Century has a lot to do with the Danes having behaved impressively to save its Jews from the Nazis in the 1940s.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    Denmark’s rational immigration policy in the 21st Century has a lot to do with the Danes having behaved impressively to save its Jews from the Nazis in the 1940s.

    Can you expand upon that?

  317. @Jack D
    @Mark G.

    Yes, this is a weakness of democracies. People have short attention spans. Putin can stay focused and doesn't have to worry about losing elections.

    But dictatorships have weaknesses of their own. For one thing, Putin is going to kick off sooner or later. The logic of dictatorship means that you cannot allow any strong #2 to emerge who might challenge you so Putin has surrounded himself with a bunch of midget rivals who will surely fight with each other like cats and dogs when he dies.

    Of course the US is not Ukraine's only supporter. And again, as far as the US withdrawing support for Ukraine, don't count your chickens before they are hatched. Right now there is (shockingly!) politics going on in Washington which has held up the aid, but if I had to guess, Ukraine aid is going to come thru in the end.

    And it's not "the Ukraine". It's Ukraine - "the Ukraine" is some sort of annoying Rushist tic. Maybe once upon a time it meant "the borderlands" but now it's the name of a country, the same as the Russia. (The Czar's title was (at least in English - Russian has no articles) "Czar of all THE Russias".
    No one says that anymore although it actually explains a lot - Putin would also like to be Czar of all "the Russias". Russias plural meaning that in addition to Russia proper, Russian World also includes White Russia (Belarus) and New Russia (Ukraine). Maybe Alaska too!

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Patrick McNally, @Johann Ricke

    And it’s not “the Ukraine”. It’s Ukraine – “the Ukraine” is some sort of annoying Rushist tic.

    Bullshit. The truth is just the reverse. It always was ‘the Ukraine.’ ‘Ukraine’ is a typical new-age word game. It implies that the Ukraine is a nation rather than a region, when in fact before 1991 it was the reverse.

    You’re incredible. You’ll claim literally anything if it will advance your argument. ‘Annoying Rushist tic’ my ass; calling it ‘the Ukraine’ is as reasonable as spelling the name of the major city ‘Kiev.’ Both are standard English usage; sure as the capital of Italy is Rome or the big city in Bavaria is Munich.

    • Agree: J.Ross
    • Replies: @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    Alan Clark in his history of WW2's Eastern Front Barbarossa (1964) entitled one chapter "Slaughter In The Ukraine". Yes, normal English usage. Most Slavic languages do not have a definite article so the issue does not arise in Russian, Ukrainian or Polish.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    , @HA
    @Colin Wright

    "‘Ukraine’ is a typical new-age word game."

    Kind of like the one that turned "THE Netherlands" or "THE Lebanon" into their modern article-free versions?

    Sounds like the "new age" has been around for a while. Do you get this angry when people say Gaza instead of THE Gaza strip? I doubt it.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Wielgus

  318. @awry
    @Corvinus

    Yes that was part of the package. So whites got a "gift from God", it was a package full of chocolate, but poisoned by "God's people".
    But who knows, maybe Amerimutts don't mind being replaced and canceled in exchange of living in the parasitic superpower run by the yid world masters. After all it they are still pretty prosperous. It was their choice, but not a completely fair deal, because they were mostly blissfully unaware of what is coming for them.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Yes that was part of the package. So whites got a “gift from God”, it was a package full of chocolate, but poisoned by “God’s people”.”

    What are you even talking about?

    “But who knows, maybe Amerimutts”

    You mean white Europeans who intermarried.

    “don’t mind being replaced and canceled in exchange of living in the parasitic superpower run by the yid world masters.”

    So what are you doing about it?

    “After all it they are still pretty prosperous. It was their choice, but not a completely fair deal, because they were mostly blissfully unaware of what is coming for them.”

    So white people despite their collective intelligence and high time preference are easily duped by Jew, but not you. Got it.

  319. @Colin Wright
    @Jack D


    And it’s not “the Ukraine”. It’s Ukraine – “the Ukraine” is some sort of annoying Rushist tic.
     
    Bullshit. The truth is just the reverse. It always was 'the Ukraine.' 'Ukraine' is a typical new-age word game. It implies that the Ukraine is a nation rather than a region, when in fact before 1991 it was the reverse.

    You're incredible. You'll claim literally anything if it will advance your argument. 'Annoying Rushist tic' my ass; calling it 'the Ukraine' is as reasonable as spelling the name of the major city 'Kiev.' Both are standard English usage; sure as the capital of Italy is Rome or the big city in Bavaria is Munich.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @HA

    Alan Clark in his history of WW2’s Eastern Front Barbarossa (1964) entitled one chapter “Slaughter In The Ukraine”. Yes, normal English usage. Most Slavic languages do not have a definite article so the issue does not arise in Russian, Ukrainian or Polish.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Wielgus

    It gets weirder. I do not thing The Ukraine is some sort of Muscovite article. It’s common English going back centuries. Same with Kiev, Key Ev. Slavs all say “Keev” I think. It’s just English. No one says Pareee when speaking English.

    Replies: @HA, @Wielgus

  320. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @nebulafox


    Right up until the war years, the British took a much more relaxed view of Japanese imperial ambitions than the Americans did.
     
    British soldiers fought alongside the Japanese against Germans in WWI. Britain and (((Jacob Schiff))) were the sponsors of Japanese imperialism.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/British%2C_Indian_and_Japanese_soldiers_in_Tsingtao_%28Qingdao%29%2C_China%2C_1914.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/BritishTroopsArriveTsingtao1914.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Tsingtao

    British soldiers congratulating Imperial Japanese troops on their recent victory over the Chinese Kuomintang. Shanghai International Settlement, China, 22 November 1937.
    https://i.postimg.cc/tR6T1G4Z/Fh-C7-TQPUJPn3-a-Op8w-GTf-Ekuvw-OB1qihxab-U-Fbhwts.webp

    Chiang understood the wedge between Churchill and Roosevelt-- America wasn't going to expend resources to help Britain get back its Asian colonies.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    British soldiers congratulating Imperial Japanese troops on their recent victory over the Chinese Kuomintang. Shanghai International Settlement, China, 22 November 1937.

    I’d say that by 1937, any such displays of enthusiasm were less than sincere. The marriage was long over; it was only three weeks after that photo was taken that Japanese artillery opened fire on HMS Ladybird.

    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Colin Wright

    What were British and American gunboats doing there?

    How about if the Chinese had a riverine fleet in the Hudson like Americans did?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangtze_Patrol

  321. HA says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack D

    Jack, there's nothing left to argue about. This war is over. Everyone knows it. Why do you think Jabba the Hutt, aka Nuland, retired? The best that the WH can do is keep this going until the election, which is doable but after that, things get bad.

    Ukraine is running out of men. Their air defense systems are running out of missiles and are getting picked off. We can't supply enough of anything. And that fool Syrskyi keeps feeding soldiers into obvious cauldrons.

    I'm not saying Russia will takeover all of Ukraine, mainly because Russia has never wanted all of Ukraine. Who would? But the question is what Russia wants in terms of land and guarantees. Yes, we've reached the point of how this is going to end on Russia's terms.

    The Russians quite obviously want the Donbas and Kharkiv as well as the land bridge. That's going to happen. They'll also demand Ukrainian neutrality and no NATO membership for what's left of Ukraine, as well as no long-range missiles. These are all done.

    What's up for negotiation, though each day that goes by, this becomes less true are:

    1. Odessa and linking Transnistria to Russia

    2. All of eastern Ukraine as a buffer against the west.

    If Ukraine and the psychopath neocons had any brains, they'd fall back, build strong defensive lines and negotiate now with Putin. Tell him, sure, you'll win eventually but our new strategy will make it extremely painful, so let's work out a deal.

    You get Donbas, Kharkiv and the land bridge. The rest of eastern Ukraine remains in Ukraine but is a demilitarized zone. Ukraine and NATO sign an agreement that Ukraine will never join NATO. Ukraine also will not allow long-range missiles on its territory.

    I kind of doubt Putin would take that deal, but he might. The war is over, Jack. It's just a question of what Ukraine can salvage.

    Replies: @BB753, @Jack D, @HA

    “Their [Ukrainian] air defense systems are running out of missiles and are getting picked off.”

    Is that Moscow-speak for “Russian jets have been decimated in just a few weeks”? None of those downed jets will be picking off anything soon. Sounds like Ukraine’s air defenses are working pretty well.

    “If Ukraine and the psychopath neocons had any brains, they’d fall back, build strong defensive lines and negotiate now with Putin. Tell him, sure, you’ll win eventually but our new strategy will make it extremely painful, so let’s work out a deal.”

    I’m not sure how this so-called “new strategy” differs from the other one, given that they both involve keeping the Russians contained and making things extremely painful for them. Moreover, you’re completely overlooking the fact that Putin’s stateside stooges will never be willing to make things extremely painful for Russia — they want Russia to win, and take all of Ukraine and keep going, and if that means turning Berlin into a smoking crater, so much the better. Putin knows this, and he’ll know they’ll keep caving, and so he’ll keep going. Ukraine was always just a stepping stone.

    And there’s no evidence that Putin has ever wanted to negotiate

    Right now, even if Zelensky agrees to negotiate, there is no evidence that Putin wants to negotiate, that he wants to stop fighting, or that he has ever wanted to stop fighting. And yes, according to Western officials who have periodic conversations with their Russian counterparts, attempts have been made to find out.

    Nor is there any evidence that Putin wants to partition Ukraine, keeping only the territories he currently occupies and allowing the rest to prosper like South Korea. His goal remains the destruction of Ukraine—all of Ukraine—and his allies and propagandists are still talking about how, once they achieve this goal, they will expand their empire further… calling Poland Russia’s “historical enemy” and threatening Poles with the loss of their state too.

    No pundit in Putin’s Russia has ever considered Ukraine a bigger threat than, say, Poland. (And once Poland is settled, there’s the even more pressing historical issue of what to do with Germany.) I think it was Solovyev who said that empires have to expand the way a shark has to swim to breathe, and once they stop, they sink to the bottom. That’s pretty much how they see this.

    This idiotic “let’s-call-a-cease-fire” talk is nothing new. It’s just a replay of that one about how everything was going to be fine until Boris Johnson stepped in. But that was a lie, too.

    I’m already fed up with this story, so this is probably my last comment on this matter. There was no deal between Ukraine and Russia in March-April 2022. Indeed, both sides were working on the agreement, exchanged draft versions of it several times, and at some point Zelensky did believe the deal was possible, but what the Russian delegation ultimately put on the table – Ukraine’s neutrality, far reaching disarmament of Ukraine’s armed forces, and treaty provisions allowing Moscow to permanently influence Ukrainian internal politics – turned out to be not acceptable to Ukraine at all, and Ukraine was eventually right to reject it. The U.S./UK pressure on Zelensky is just… a conspiracy theory. Russia wanted the Western countries to broker this deal by means of them giving – to neutral and disarmed, so basically helpless – Ukraine security guarantees. And Boris Johnson also was right to refuse, since this would mean the West would be obliged in future to defend Ukraine with its own troops on the ground (as Ukrainian army would have been largely dissolved). His answer to Zelensky was: no, we won’t sign up to this deal, but we will help you defend yourself here and now, you decide. And Zelensky took the offer, especially given the fact that the Russian troops around Kyiv were running out of steam, and the Bucha massacre was revealed at that time, so the public mood in Ukraine changed too. The rest of the story is widely known.

    Putin’s own envoy said he had a deal to keep Ukraine out of NATO — Putin rejected it anyway. But yeah, somehow this is all Boris Johnson’s fault. And with regard to the so-called Istanbul deal that Johnson supposedly scuttled, I read elsewhere that the weapons cap that was going to be part of this so called new “neutrality” would have limited Ukraine’s army to 65% or so of what they have now. I’m betting there were likewise restrictions on what Ukraine could buy from the West, too — i.e., any cease-fire is just a set-up so that the next time Putin invades, it WILL be only 3 days plus a few weeks of mopping up. And he’s basically admitted that an independent Ukraine was never in the cards, and had he known how “extremely painful” it would be to subjugate them, he’d have invaded sooner. The only thing that happens when the white flag is lifted is that the boys fighting to keep Ukraine from disappearing will be fighting in Putin’s next operation, just like the boys in Donbass must show their gratitude for being “liberated” by jumping in to the meatgrinder now.

    If things are going so swell for Putin, why is Armenia saying they’re thinking of joining the EU? I kid you not — ARMENIA. Why didn’t Sweden and Finland decide to abort their move to NATO if things have worked out so well for Putin? What is it that they see that Putin’s stooges in the West don’t?

    And as for running out of men, that’s not what the trolls are telling us when the issue of aid comes up. You people need to coordinate your lies and your shtick better. Yeah, no one wants to be sent to the frontlines. I think we get that. That’s why Moscow is scamming Indians into fighting for them. Doesn’t sound like they’re flush with soldiers either.

    As for Nuland, she’s bowed out and come back before, and her decision to quit is more about that historic rivalry between the Natl. Sec. Council and the State Dept. (i.e. some NSC guy got tapped for the role she wanted and she didn’t want to work under him) than the rivalry between Ukraine and Russia or how to deal with that. Even Putin’s shills are admitting that “Nuland’s retirement probably does not signal much of an ideological shift at State.”

    But I get it — to the trolls, regardless of whether the coin toss is heads or tails, it’s proof positive that Russia is winning and the West is losing.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @HA

    Look, you can write as many words as you want, it won't change anything. Everyone now understands that Ukraine can't win this war and that it will only get worse for them as time goes on. Ukraine is basically Germany in late 1943 or early 1944.

    Even if they could come up with the men, we can't supply them with enough military equipment. Our own govt has acknowledged this. The Pentagon has already moved on and is working on how to get back our industrial capacity for future wars. But that's years and years down the road. Sorry Ukraine.

    Biden is just praying that Ukraine can hold it together until the election. That's all that's left.

    I'm shocked the Jew crew is this out of touch. There's nothing left to argue about here. It's over.

    Replies: @HA

    , @Mr Mox
    @HA

    1112 Words - 6404 Characters

    The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

    Replies: @HA

  322. @Steve Sailer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Newton's big book was an immediate success, with few doubters, because he'd gone back and converted his mathematical thinking to the kind of geometrical thinking that the most educated 1% were familiar with. So all across Europe, the top men agreed that Newton had done it.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @cthulhu

    Newton’s big book was an immediate success, with few doubters, because he’d gone back and converted his mathematical thinking to the kind of geometrical thinking that the most educated 1% were familiar with. So all across Europe, the top men agreed that Newton had done it.

    Casting the Principia in geometric, non-fluxion (Newton’s nomenclature for what we call today calculus) exposition may have helped with immediate uptake by his peers (as much as a genius the caliber of Newton can be said to have peers), but Newton’s extreme reluctance to publish the details of “the method of fluxions” led directly to the disputes about who invented calculus*, and because Leibniz had no reticence at all about publishing, the next 50-100 years had the Europeans dominating mathematics and the British lagging behind.

    *Newton, of course, was indeed the actual inventor (or discoverer, if you’re of Platonic bent) of calculus, but Leibniz almost certainly would have gotten at least most of the way there eventually, and required very few hints (indirectly from Newton, via some papers of Newton’s that made their way to Leibniz) to actually recreate the diffential and integral calculus. And there is zero dispute that Leibniz’s notation is far better than Newton’s, and notation is of massive value in mathematics. But Newton’s physics work in the Principia and Optiks is unchallenged by any contemporary. The guy was a nutcase but was also the best physical scientist who ever lived, and really no else even comes close.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob, Frau Katze
  323. HA says:
    @Colin Wright
    @Jack D


    And it’s not “the Ukraine”. It’s Ukraine – “the Ukraine” is some sort of annoying Rushist tic.
     
    Bullshit. The truth is just the reverse. It always was 'the Ukraine.' 'Ukraine' is a typical new-age word game. It implies that the Ukraine is a nation rather than a region, when in fact before 1991 it was the reverse.

    You're incredible. You'll claim literally anything if it will advance your argument. 'Annoying Rushist tic' my ass; calling it 'the Ukraine' is as reasonable as spelling the name of the major city 'Kiev.' Both are standard English usage; sure as the capital of Italy is Rome or the big city in Bavaria is Munich.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @HA

    “‘Ukraine’ is a typical new-age word game.”

    Kind of like the one that turned “THE Netherlands” or “THE Lebanon” into their modern article-free versions?

    Sounds like the “new age” has been around for a while. Do you get this angry when people say Gaza instead of THE Gaza strip? I doubt it.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @HA


    Kind of like the one that turned “THE Netherlands” or “THE Lebanon” into their modern article-free versions?

    Sounds like the “new age” has been around for a while. Do you get this angry when people say Gaza instead of THE Gaza strip? I doubt it.
     
    I'd say 'the Netherlands.' Saying 'Netherlands' would be awkward and grammatically nonsensical. After all, the term means 'lower lands.' Unless one is intending to encompass the Mekong Delta in the discussion, it would be best to imply that you are referring to a specific set of lower lands.

    But enough of that. More significantly, the transition from 'The Ukraine' to 'Ukraine' seems to have been a more ideologically motivated and consciously imposed change than your other examples. You're right, for example, about 'Lebanon' rather than 'the Lebanon,' but if anyone did that by design, it was a good eighty years ago that it happened.

    No sense in trying to reverse it now. But I grew up with 'the Ukraine' -- sure as I grew up with "Munich' and 'Cologne.' I fail to see why I have to sign on with the 'Ukraine' brigade when the intent of the coinage is obviously to impose implicit support for our position in the current fracas.

    As to 'Gaza,' it would still be 'the Gaza Strip' if Israel weren't always trying to seize control of it. Now that Israel has oinked it up (again) and is enjoying herself playing 'suppress the Warsaw Uprising' with the place, it's 'Gaza.'

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Wielgus
    @HA

    That's odd - British English at least still says The Netherlands and they are neighbours across the sea. In fact Netherlands minus the article sounds odd. I have heard both versions of Lebanon. Dutch people in fact tend to take umbrage at "Holland" because this is in fact just one province of the country.

    Replies: @HA, @J.Ross, @Jack D, @Ralph L, @Reg Cæsar

  324. HA says:
    @Mark G.
    @Jack D

    Eventually most Americans will become about as eager to continue sending more money over to the Ukraine as they are now to run out and get that next Covid vaccine booster shot.

    Replies: @Jack D, @HA

    “will become about as eager to continue sending more money over to the Ukraine as they are now to run out and get that next Covid vaccine booster shot.”

    Doesn’t mean that “experimental” technology is going away any time soon, does it? As Trump himself famously noted “The Vaccines that saved us from COVID are now being used to help beat Cancer – Turning setback into comeback!”

    Man, even TRUMP realizes that his anti-vaxx followers are a bunch of knuckle-dragging troglodytes. Sad.

    And don’t worry — to the extent the CDC is not haranguing us to get those boosters as much as you’d like, I suspect it’s partly because they have no problem with a bunch of old Fox-news-watching geezers deciding to kick off early from COVID in an election year. So if you want to pass on that vaccine this year, I suspect they’ll be OK with that.

  325. @YetAnotherAnon
    @J.Ross


    " People attempting to get aid to Gaza have become frustrated enough to simply send a boat that way. I predict that eventually Israel will interfere in some way, possibly violently, and this will outrage people."
     
    The Turks sent an aid flotilla there about the last time but three that Israel were killing Palestinians. Israel boarded it and shot a lot of people. You'll note how world outrage has made this event well known.

    It's good to hold the megaphone...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_flotilla_raid


    "The Gaza flotilla raid was a military operation by Israel against six civilian ships of the "Gaza Freedom Flotilla" on 31 May 2010 in international waters in the Mediterranean Sea. Nine of the flotilla passengers were killed during the raid, with thirty wounded (including one who later died of his wounds). Ten Israeli soldiers were wounded, one seriously. The exact sequence of events is contested, in part due to the IDF's confiscation of the passengers' photographic evidence."
     

    Replies: @J.Ross

    The Mavi Marmara (“Bosporus Strait”). Our greatest ally tripped on their way out of the helicopter, panicked, and shot an American in the face five times.

  326. @HA
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    "Their [Ukrainian] air defense systems are running out of missiles and are getting picked off."

    Is that Moscow-speak for "Russian jets have been decimated in just a few weeks"? None of those downed jets will be picking off anything soon. Sounds like Ukraine's air defenses are working pretty well.

    "If Ukraine and the psychopath neocons had any brains, they’d fall back, build strong defensive lines and negotiate now with Putin. Tell him, sure, you’ll win eventually but our new strategy will make it extremely painful, so let’s work out a deal."

    I'm not sure how this so-called "new strategy" differs from the other one, given that they both involve keeping the Russians contained and making things extremely painful for them. Moreover, you're completely overlooking the fact that Putin's stateside stooges will never be willing to make things extremely painful for Russia -- they want Russia to win, and take all of Ukraine and keep going, and if that means turning Berlin into a smoking crater, so much the better. Putin knows this, and he'll know they'll keep caving, and so he'll keep going. Ukraine was always just a stepping stone.

    And there's no evidence that Putin has ever wanted to negotiate


    Right now, even if Zelensky agrees to negotiate, there is no evidence that Putin wants to negotiate, that he wants to stop fighting, or that he has ever wanted to stop fighting. And yes, according to Western officials who have periodic conversations with their Russian counterparts, attempts have been made to find out.

    Nor is there any evidence that Putin wants to partition Ukraine, keeping only the territories he currently occupies and allowing the rest to prosper like South Korea. His goal remains the destruction of Ukraine—all of Ukraine—and his allies and propagandists are still talking about how, once they achieve this goal, they will expand their empire further... calling Poland Russia’s “historical enemy” and threatening Poles with the loss of their state too.
     
    No pundit in Putin's Russia has ever considered Ukraine a bigger threat than, say, Poland. (And once Poland is settled, there's the even more pressing historical issue of what to do with Germany.) I think it was Solovyev who said that empires have to expand the way a shark has to swim to breathe, and once they stop, they sink to the bottom. That's pretty much how they see this.

    This idiotic "let's-call-a-cease-fire" talk is nothing new. It's just a replay of that one about how everything was going to be fine until Boris Johnson stepped in. But that was a lie, too.


    I'm already fed up with this story, so this is probably my last comment on this matter. There was no deal between Ukraine and Russia in March-April 2022. Indeed, both sides were working on the agreement, exchanged draft versions of it several times, and at some point Zelensky did believe the deal was possible, but what the Russian delegation ultimately put on the table - Ukraine's neutrality, far reaching disarmament of Ukraine's armed forces, and treaty provisions allowing Moscow to permanently influence Ukrainian internal politics - turned out to be not acceptable to Ukraine at all, and Ukraine was eventually right to reject it. The U.S./UK pressure on Zelensky is just... a conspiracy theory. Russia wanted the Western countries to broker this deal by means of them giving - to neutral and disarmed, so basically helpless - Ukraine security guarantees. And Boris Johnson also was right to refuse, since this would mean the West would be obliged in future to defend Ukraine with its own troops on the ground (as Ukrainian army would have been largely dissolved). His answer to Zelensky was: no, we won't sign up to this deal, but we will help you defend yourself here and now, you decide. And Zelensky took the offer, especially given the fact that the Russian troops around Kyiv were running out of steam, and the Bucha massacre was revealed at that time, so the public mood in Ukraine changed too. The rest of the story is widely known.

     

    Putin's own envoy said he had a deal to keep Ukraine out of NATO -- Putin rejected it anyway. But yeah, somehow this is all Boris Johnson's fault. And with regard to the so-called Istanbul deal that Johnson supposedly scuttled, I read elsewhere that the weapons cap that was going to be part of this so called new "neutrality" would have limited Ukraine's army to 65% or so of what they have now. I'm betting there were likewise restrictions on what Ukraine could buy from the West, too -- i.e., any cease-fire is just a set-up so that the next time Putin invades, it WILL be only 3 days plus a few weeks of mopping up. And he's basically admitted that an independent Ukraine was never in the cards, and had he known how "extremely painful" it would be to subjugate them, he'd have invaded sooner. The only thing that happens when the white flag is lifted is that the boys fighting to keep Ukraine from disappearing will be fighting in Putin's next operation, just like the boys in Donbass must show their gratitude for being "liberated" by jumping in to the meatgrinder now.

    If things are going so swell for Putin, why is Armenia saying they're thinking of joining the EU? I kid you not -- ARMENIA. Why didn't Sweden and Finland decide to abort their move to NATO if things have worked out so well for Putin? What is it that they see that Putin's stooges in the West don't?

    And as for running out of men, that's not what the trolls are telling us when the issue of aid comes up. You people need to coordinate your lies and your shtick better. Yeah, no one wants to be sent to the frontlines. I think we get that. That's why Moscow is scamming Indians into fighting for them. Doesn't sound like they're flush with soldiers either.

    As for Nuland, she's bowed out and come back before, and her decision to quit is more about that historic rivalry between the Natl. Sec. Council and the State Dept. (i.e. some NSC guy got tapped for the role she wanted and she didn't want to work under him) than the rivalry between Ukraine and Russia or how to deal with that. Even Putin's shills are admitting that "Nuland’s retirement probably does not signal much of an ideological shift at State."

    But I get it -- to the trolls, regardless of whether the coin toss is heads or tails, it's proof positive that Russia is winning and the West is losing.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Mr Mox

    Look, you can write as many words as you want, it won’t change anything. Everyone now understands that Ukraine can’t win this war and that it will only get worse for them as time goes on. Ukraine is basically Germany in late 1943 or early 1944.

    Even if they could come up with the men, we can’t supply them with enough military equipment. Our own govt has acknowledged this. The Pentagon has already moved on and is working on how to get back our industrial capacity for future wars. But that’s years and years down the road. Sorry Ukraine.

    Biden is just praying that Ukraine can hold it together until the election. That’s all that’s left.

    I’m shocked the Jew crew is this out of touch. There’s nothing left to argue about here. It’s over.

    • Replies: @HA
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    "Everyone now understands that Ukraine can’t win this war and that it will only get worse for them as time goes on."

    No, not everyone -- that's you and the fanboys who ever and always have been saying that Russia can only advance, no matter how painfully slow and how many heroic retreats to the rear they've suffered. No one who isn't already a gullible dupe or stooge with regard to Russian troll memes understands anything of the sort.

    And even if what you said were true, it wouldn't be particularly relevant, given that it omits the fact that things are only going to get worse for the Russians, too. Those boats, those planes, and those tanks -- the West is still crunching them out. It seems like forever, but F-16 will eventually make it to the Ukrainians. I suspect that 300bn euros of frozen Russian assets will also start to dribble to them. Whereas the Russians keep refurbishing museum pieces and calling them tanks, but there's a finite number of those.

    "we can’t supply them with enough military equipment."

    They seem to be able to crunch out a fair number of drones judging from all the downed boats and planes and the like. And again, the Russians are scrambling to get North Korean equipment, so evidently they don't have enough either.

    Fabian strategies has worked before. With enough bombed airfields and gas depots, the Russians are going to have a harder and harder time keeping this going. The electricity grid is still operating in Ukraine. People are still moving about even in places not far from the front lines like Odessa. Russia doesn't have the bombs it needs for the sustained campaign it hoped everyone would believe it was capable of back when they first tried that.

    I get it -- everything always works in Russia's favor according to the fanboys. The winter freeze will surely bring that huge Russian offensive because it makes the ground easy to traverse, but somehow, that never applies to the Ukrainians. The mud will only muck up the Ukrainian equipment, not the Russians. And according to the likes of Douglas Macgregor, in another two weeks, the Ukrainians will collapse, and this time, they really mean it!

    No, stop kidding yourself. If anything, the troll alerts about how the Ukrainians are just days away from collapse have reduced in quantity over the past few months.

    Replies: @anonymous, @HA

  327. @Gordo
    @Ben Kurtz

    Nonsense, Bohr flew from Sweden to UK in the bomb bay of a Mosquito, falling unconscious on the way because he forgot to put his oxygen mask on, then on to New Mexico.

    Heisenberg asked Bohr in Copenhagen to send a message to physicists in the West that he was crippling the German program and asked that Bohr persuade them to do likewise. Bohr disbelieved Heisenberg and backed the bomb.

    Cue Heisenberg haters, but remember Heisenberg refused all weapons work post WWII, and during the 3rd Reich was accused of being a’White Jew’ in Schwartz Korp. He had a quiet courage.

    And I can see why that would offend some people.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    Unfortunately you’re spreading nonsense about Heisenberg, taking at face value his post-WWII claims about the German nuclear program which he became head of.

    Unfortunately for him, he was snapped up by the Manhattan Project part of Operation Paperclip, and sequestered in a bugged facility with a bunch of people who were under him plus the radiochemist Otto Hahn who’d got it all going by providing evidence for the fission of uranium.

    So we have in what’s said to be it’s best, annotated form Hitler’s Uranium Club: The Secret Recordings at Farm Hall which I’ve read. See also Rhodes for details about how the prospect of a bomb failed due to technical and clerical incompetence plus the urgency of the war, but the bottom line is that Heisenberg very much wasn’t an Oppenheimer and was completely at sea on both that and reactors.

    Well, until they heard about Hiroshima, stumbled around for a bit, then figured out Otto Robert Frisch’s fast neutron insight and how a practical bomb could work. But before then Heisenberg and his colleagues had no idea whatsoever that an atomic bomb would be practical, and futilely tried to harness uranium for power, which Germany desperately needed.

    (The most important bit of technical incompetence was giving up too early on purifying graphite of neutron poisons, which the US found to be very hard, and the clerical of sending out the wrong set of invitations to Nazi bigwigs who might have otherwise given them serious support.)

    • Troll: Gordo
  328. @BB753
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    "The rest of eastern Ukraine remains in Ukraine but is a demilitarized zone. Ukraine and NATO sign an agreement that Ukraine will never join NATO. Ukraine also will not allow long-range missiles on its territory."

    That's only gonna happen with regime change in Kiev. No more Western assets, no more nazi banderites, no more State Department/CIA intrusion: Russia would have to install a pro-Russian government and regime or else it'll be back to square one: color revolutions, Maidan coups and civil war and ultimately war against Russia.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Vicki could tell you that the State Department has always found regime change in Kiev far more convenient than in Moscow.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @J.Ross

    Ultimately, every US sponsored regime change has failed. You just can't go around changing regimes you don't agree with. The alternative is diplomacy and economic cooperation, which is where China and Russia have beaten America.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jack D

  329. @J.Ross
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Filmmaking is the Jews' own thing cleanly, they invented it. Their native art is storytelling and it's a modern form of storytelling. They conceived of and built Hollywood when it was a couple of date farms. No one was displaced or murdered to make Hollywood. Objecting to Jewish filmmaking is like objecting to German(/Austrian) music composition.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    This is wrong at all levels, so it doesn’t deserve a comment.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Indeed.

  330. @YetAnotherAnon
    @AnotherDad

    "I expect EVs will win in the end for more or less his overall set of reasons."

    When you make things in vast quantities, the price drops a lot.

    You can get a 50mp camera in a £120 phone these days. Millions are sold. But a 50mp sensor in a mirrorless camera with a decent zoom lens costs maybe 10 times that. Not so many people buy them.

    Replies: @res

    You can get a 50mp camera in a £120 phone these days. Millions are sold. But a 50mp sensor in a mirrorless camera with a decent zoom lens costs maybe 10 times that. Not so many people buy them.

    Worth noting that the sensor sizes are very different. Though phone sensors are getting larger. Megapixels is far from the only spec which matters (as much as the phone camera makers would have you think otherwise).
    https://www.eoshd.com/news/smartphones-and-their-growing-threat-to-mirrorless-cameras-2022-edition/

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @res

    "the sensor sizes are very different"

    Agreed (Kodak do even bigger ones but seem to be selling to astronomers at premium prices), but as in your linked piece "the Poco X4 Pro has a 1/1.53″ sensor, larger than the iPhone 13 Pro Max. It is 12K in terms of total resolution, 108 megapixel. It costs $300. There is no way the camera industry can compete with that kind of economy of scale."

    Fortunately for the camera companies the laws of optics are likely to hang on in there a while yet, unless some genius can fit a zoom into a phone.

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @res

    The Oppo Find X7 has four 50mp sensors, two with optical zooms. Only available in China atm.

    However the camera region now noticeably sticks out from the rest of the phone.

    https://www.wired.com/review/oppo-find-x7-ultra/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periscope_lens

    Replies: @res

  331. @Jack D
    @Mark G.

    Yes, this is a weakness of democracies. People have short attention spans. Putin can stay focused and doesn't have to worry about losing elections.

    But dictatorships have weaknesses of their own. For one thing, Putin is going to kick off sooner or later. The logic of dictatorship means that you cannot allow any strong #2 to emerge who might challenge you so Putin has surrounded himself with a bunch of midget rivals who will surely fight with each other like cats and dogs when he dies.

    Of course the US is not Ukraine's only supporter. And again, as far as the US withdrawing support for Ukraine, don't count your chickens before they are hatched. Right now there is (shockingly!) politics going on in Washington which has held up the aid, but if I had to guess, Ukraine aid is going to come thru in the end.

    And it's not "the Ukraine". It's Ukraine - "the Ukraine" is some sort of annoying Rushist tic. Maybe once upon a time it meant "the borderlands" but now it's the name of a country, the same as the Russia. (The Czar's title was (at least in English - Russian has no articles) "Czar of all THE Russias".
    No one says that anymore although it actually explains a lot - Putin would also like to be Czar of all "the Russias". Russias plural meaning that in addition to Russia proper, Russian World also includes White Russia (Belarus) and New Russia (Ukraine). Maybe Alaska too!

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Patrick McNally, @Johann Ricke

    Right now there is (shockingly!) politics going on in Washington which has held up the aid, but if I had to guess, Ukraine aid is going to come thru in the end.

    You might be surprised that I agree. I don’t know if they’ll get the $60 billion, but they’ll get something in that ballpark.

    But it doesn’t matter. No amount of dollars can buy missiles, shells and platforms that don’t exist. We can’t produce enough to keep up with the Russians, not even close. So, sure, we can keep Ukraine’s economy running and their oligarchs from killing Zelensky, but we can’t supply their military with enough munitions.

    Ukraine was always outgunned by a factor of 5 or 7 to one in artillery, which is why their casualty rate is so high, but what’s killing them now (literally) is that their air defenses just don’t have enough missiles to deter the Russians. It’s the glide bombs that are really changing things on the ground. Ukraine has no answer for that.

    Once the war became a battle of manpower and military industrial capacity, it was game over for Ukraine. Sure, it took a year or 18 months for the Russians to grind down the Ukrainians, but we’ve reached that point where Ukraine simply can’t take too many more body blows – and there’s no way to stop Russia from delivering them.

    Our own side has acknowledged that we can’t keep up with the Russians’ production of weapons. In a war of attrition, that amounts to say, “We lose.” So, send all the dollars that you want to keep Project Ukraine afloat until after the election, but we can’t send enough of what they really need.

  332. @BB753
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    "The rest of eastern Ukraine remains in Ukraine but is a demilitarized zone. Ukraine and NATO sign an agreement that Ukraine will never join NATO. Ukraine also will not allow long-range missiles on its territory."

    That's only gonna happen with regime change in Kiev. No more Western assets, no more nazi banderites, no more State Department/CIA intrusion: Russia would have to install a pro-Russian government and regime or else it'll be back to square one: color revolutions, Maidan coups and civil war and ultimately war against Russia.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Agree, which is why I don’t think the Russians will accept that option. It forces them to trust the West and that’s not going to happen. Multiple times, Putin has kicked himself for being tricked by the West. I’d suspect that they’re going to find a solution on the ground and not in negotiations.

    • Agree: BB753
  333. @HA
    @Colin Wright

    "‘Ukraine’ is a typical new-age word game."

    Kind of like the one that turned "THE Netherlands" or "THE Lebanon" into their modern article-free versions?

    Sounds like the "new age" has been around for a while. Do you get this angry when people say Gaza instead of THE Gaza strip? I doubt it.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Wielgus

    Kind of like the one that turned “THE Netherlands” or “THE Lebanon” into their modern article-free versions?

    Sounds like the “new age” has been around for a while. Do you get this angry when people say Gaza instead of THE Gaza strip? I doubt it.

    I’d say ‘the Netherlands.’ Saying ‘Netherlands’ would be awkward and grammatically nonsensical. After all, the term means ‘lower lands.’ Unless one is intending to encompass the Mekong Delta in the discussion, it would be best to imply that you are referring to a specific set of lower lands.

    But enough of that. More significantly, the transition from ‘The Ukraine’ to ‘Ukraine’ seems to have been a more ideologically motivated and consciously imposed change than your other examples. You’re right, for example, about ‘Lebanon’ rather than ‘the Lebanon,’ but if anyone did that by design, it was a good eighty years ago that it happened.

    No sense in trying to reverse it now. But I grew up with ‘the Ukraine’ — sure as I grew up with “Munich’ and ‘Cologne.’ I fail to see why I have to sign on with the ‘Ukraine’ brigade when the intent of the coinage is obviously to impose implicit support for our position in the current fracas.

    As to ‘Gaza,’ it would still be ‘the Gaza Strip’ if Israel weren’t always trying to seize control of it. Now that Israel has oinked it up (again) and is enjoying herself playing ‘suppress the Warsaw Uprising’ with the place, it’s ‘Gaza.’

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Colin Wright

    As to ‘Gaza,’ it would still be ‘the Gaza Strip’ if Israel weren’t always trying to seize control of it.
    ==
    Israel has seized it twice in the space of 75 years, a tad less than always. They did so for an excellent reason both times.

  334. @Jack D
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Don't count your chickens before they are hatched.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Mark G., @res

    Don’t count your chickens before they are hatched.

    Sounds like a good policy for everyone in the Russia-Ukraine conversation. I seem to recall some chicken counting during the ruble crash in early 2022.

    • LOL: J.Ross
  335. @Bardon Kaldian
    @From Beer to Paternity


    Was Feynman really doing that silly bongo playing after the test? Wonder how many caught that. I know it was a schtick of his, but I’m curious if he was really that goofy. I doubt it (but he definitely had an ego proportional w/ his IQ).
     
    Bongo- no, that's rubbish; Feynman was an eccentric, but not an egoist. He was one of the most psychologically mature & selfless persons to grace physics. Always ready to admit others' accomplishments, never demeaning others, actually very critical about his abilities. A free spirit.

    Gell-Mann was a miserable envious midget.

    Replies: @From Beer to Paternity, @James B. Shearer, @That Would Be Telling

    Feynman was an eccentric, but not an egoist

    Perhaps, but on the other hand he wasn’t free of ego. In one of his autobiography volumes he mentions developing basic calculus himself before being conventionally exposed to it, and thus he had his own toolbox of integrals. So when people got stuck using the conventional set, he’d generally be able to help them, whereas when he got stuck with one that was part of the conventional set, they’d just think he’d forgot it.

    Of course, to admit this to anyone is itself the sign of a guy with control over his ego, albeit much later in his life and I’m pretty sure after getting his Nobel. But back in the day he was very young, just out of graduate school and rubbing shoulders with giants in physics like “Nicolas Baker.” Fortunately, and this made a big difference for everyone, when things moved to pure physics he could put his … humbled ego??? completely to the side and do the physics.

    So he was noticed as one of the most promising young physicists, and Otto Robert Frisch mentions him a few times in his autobiography I mentioned. Like Feynman despite his youth was on the committee that judged which experiments would be done, both if they were worth the effort and safe enough.

    So they OKed one very closely simulating the Little Boy design, which if the two pieces of uranium got stuck next to each other…. But Frisch was really good at experimentation, for example why Bohr recruited him, and convinced the committee he could do it safely and generate useful data. And a Little Boy was the first used and without it being tested due to a lack of U-235, it wasn’t even all highly/highest purified.

  336. @Steve Sailer
    @nebulafox

    What was the German plan in 1918 to do with Ukraine?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @nebulafox, @Colin Wright

    ‘What was the German plan in 1918 to do with Ukraine?’

    I imagine that in 1918 ‘the plan’ was to get as much grain as possible out of the Ukraine as soon as possible to address Germany’s state of near-starvation — and to hell with everything else.

    As to what would have happened long-term if Germany had in fact avoided defeat in the West…given Wilhelmine Germany’s relatively mild attitudes and a probable desire to permanently weaken Russia, an amusing thought comes to mind.

    Germany would probably have wound up doing just about what we’re trying to do: sponsor a Ukraine firmly allied with herself and completely independent from and hostile to Muscovy.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Colin Wright

    >Germany would probably have wound up doing just about what we’re trying to do: sponsor a Ukraine firmly allied with herself and completely independent from and hostile to Muscovy.

    At the end of the day, though, Russian actions are what truly stoked Ukrainian nationalism, not foreign support. There's a reason that all the prewar Ukrainian political parties in Galicia pledged their support to Austria in any war in 1912.

    One underrated factor is the Austro-Hungarian angle in this. In 1918, a moderate majority of the CP soldiers in Ukraine were from the Dual Monarchy. They were under German management, but ultimately answered to Vienna and its orders.For several reasons-their own internal situation, yes, but also to counterbalance and dilute German power-they would have preferred an autonomous federalized monarchy to the Hetmanate. They even apparently considered launching a coup against the Hetmanate when it became clear that it was a tool of the local aristocracy working with the Germans.

    It's kind of ironic given the atrocious actions against Austria-Hungary's own ethnic Ukrainians undertaken by the Polish dominated Galician government and Dual Monarchy forces in the early stages of the war. But the sheer aversion to the Bolsheviks felt by many Ukrainians, by no means all right-wing, shouldn't be underestimated. Especially since rival revolutionaries were very strong in places like Ukraine (anarchists), Central Asia (Islamic inspired socialists), the Caucasus (Mensheviks-that's a whole 'nuther story, and also involves the Turkish "Alsace-Lorraine").

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @YetAnotherAnon

  337. @James B. Shearer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "...never demeaning others .."

    I took a class from Feynman and this is not correct. Students were afraid to ask questions because he sometimes gave demeaning responses. This was before the requirement that teachers preface every answer with "that's a good question".

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @J.Ross

    I had a biology class with a teacher I thought was a genius, got an A, but stayed after one day to attend a bad students’ plead, because I wanted to know what complaint they could possibly have about such a good teacher (Jewish by the way). I left after the first or second grievance because these kids were lazy idiots.
    I think I have seen Feynman being possibly what you mean by “demeaning,” it’s the interview on YouTube where the journalist is asking Feynman to essentialize and Feynman objects that this would distort the concept. Am I far off?

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @J.Ross

    "I think I have seen Feynman being possibly what you mean by “demeaning,” it’s the interview on YouTube where the journalist is asking Feynman to essentialize and Feynman objects that this would distort the concept. Am I far off?"

    No it was more like a student would ask a dumb question and Feynman would answer in a way that emphasized how dumb the question was. This was a long time ago and my memories have faded but I do recall Feynman explaining at the start of the course that he sometimes did this and asking the students to please ask questions anyway.

    Although I wasn't a physics major I was taking this third year course pass/fail just because Feynman was teaching it. Caltech has a three term system and by the third term I was pretty lost (in part because I wasn't taking the other two physics courses you were supposed to be taking at the same time). So if Feynman had wanted to be mean he could have flunked me in the third term but I got what amounted to a courtesy pass instead which I consider a point in his favor.

  338. @HA
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    "Their [Ukrainian] air defense systems are running out of missiles and are getting picked off."

    Is that Moscow-speak for "Russian jets have been decimated in just a few weeks"? None of those downed jets will be picking off anything soon. Sounds like Ukraine's air defenses are working pretty well.

    "If Ukraine and the psychopath neocons had any brains, they’d fall back, build strong defensive lines and negotiate now with Putin. Tell him, sure, you’ll win eventually but our new strategy will make it extremely painful, so let’s work out a deal."

    I'm not sure how this so-called "new strategy" differs from the other one, given that they both involve keeping the Russians contained and making things extremely painful for them. Moreover, you're completely overlooking the fact that Putin's stateside stooges will never be willing to make things extremely painful for Russia -- they want Russia to win, and take all of Ukraine and keep going, and if that means turning Berlin into a smoking crater, so much the better. Putin knows this, and he'll know they'll keep caving, and so he'll keep going. Ukraine was always just a stepping stone.

    And there's no evidence that Putin has ever wanted to negotiate


    Right now, even if Zelensky agrees to negotiate, there is no evidence that Putin wants to negotiate, that he wants to stop fighting, or that he has ever wanted to stop fighting. And yes, according to Western officials who have periodic conversations with their Russian counterparts, attempts have been made to find out.

    Nor is there any evidence that Putin wants to partition Ukraine, keeping only the territories he currently occupies and allowing the rest to prosper like South Korea. His goal remains the destruction of Ukraine—all of Ukraine—and his allies and propagandists are still talking about how, once they achieve this goal, they will expand their empire further... calling Poland Russia’s “historical enemy” and threatening Poles with the loss of their state too.
     
    No pundit in Putin's Russia has ever considered Ukraine a bigger threat than, say, Poland. (And once Poland is settled, there's the even more pressing historical issue of what to do with Germany.) I think it was Solovyev who said that empires have to expand the way a shark has to swim to breathe, and once they stop, they sink to the bottom. That's pretty much how they see this.

    This idiotic "let's-call-a-cease-fire" talk is nothing new. It's just a replay of that one about how everything was going to be fine until Boris Johnson stepped in. But that was a lie, too.


    I'm already fed up with this story, so this is probably my last comment on this matter. There was no deal between Ukraine and Russia in March-April 2022. Indeed, both sides were working on the agreement, exchanged draft versions of it several times, and at some point Zelensky did believe the deal was possible, but what the Russian delegation ultimately put on the table - Ukraine's neutrality, far reaching disarmament of Ukraine's armed forces, and treaty provisions allowing Moscow to permanently influence Ukrainian internal politics - turned out to be not acceptable to Ukraine at all, and Ukraine was eventually right to reject it. The U.S./UK pressure on Zelensky is just... a conspiracy theory. Russia wanted the Western countries to broker this deal by means of them giving - to neutral and disarmed, so basically helpless - Ukraine security guarantees. And Boris Johnson also was right to refuse, since this would mean the West would be obliged in future to defend Ukraine with its own troops on the ground (as Ukrainian army would have been largely dissolved). His answer to Zelensky was: no, we won't sign up to this deal, but we will help you defend yourself here and now, you decide. And Zelensky took the offer, especially given the fact that the Russian troops around Kyiv were running out of steam, and the Bucha massacre was revealed at that time, so the public mood in Ukraine changed too. The rest of the story is widely known.

     

    Putin's own envoy said he had a deal to keep Ukraine out of NATO -- Putin rejected it anyway. But yeah, somehow this is all Boris Johnson's fault. And with regard to the so-called Istanbul deal that Johnson supposedly scuttled, I read elsewhere that the weapons cap that was going to be part of this so called new "neutrality" would have limited Ukraine's army to 65% or so of what they have now. I'm betting there were likewise restrictions on what Ukraine could buy from the West, too -- i.e., any cease-fire is just a set-up so that the next time Putin invades, it WILL be only 3 days plus a few weeks of mopping up. And he's basically admitted that an independent Ukraine was never in the cards, and had he known how "extremely painful" it would be to subjugate them, he'd have invaded sooner. The only thing that happens when the white flag is lifted is that the boys fighting to keep Ukraine from disappearing will be fighting in Putin's next operation, just like the boys in Donbass must show their gratitude for being "liberated" by jumping in to the meatgrinder now.

    If things are going so swell for Putin, why is Armenia saying they're thinking of joining the EU? I kid you not -- ARMENIA. Why didn't Sweden and Finland decide to abort their move to NATO if things have worked out so well for Putin? What is it that they see that Putin's stooges in the West don't?

    And as for running out of men, that's not what the trolls are telling us when the issue of aid comes up. You people need to coordinate your lies and your shtick better. Yeah, no one wants to be sent to the frontlines. I think we get that. That's why Moscow is scamming Indians into fighting for them. Doesn't sound like they're flush with soldiers either.

    As for Nuland, she's bowed out and come back before, and her decision to quit is more about that historic rivalry between the Natl. Sec. Council and the State Dept. (i.e. some NSC guy got tapped for the role she wanted and she didn't want to work under him) than the rivalry between Ukraine and Russia or how to deal with that. Even Putin's shills are admitting that "Nuland’s retirement probably does not signal much of an ideological shift at State."

    But I get it -- to the trolls, regardless of whether the coin toss is heads or tails, it's proof positive that Russia is winning and the West is losing.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Mr Mox

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    The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

    • Replies: @HA
    @Mr Mox

    "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

    Yeah, I get it. Putin stooges can't really handle anything more than what can be fitted to the front of a red baseball cap. It's all their little minds can handle.

    As the Russians themselves have admitted, their stateside fanboys (at least the ones who go for Trump) are “not very smart”, “rednecks”, and “primitive people” who you have to talk to with “cliches and dumb slogans.”

    Don't worry -- maybe I'll try and dumb it down for you next time, little guy. Just wait your turn.

  339. Amazing how people believe in the nuclear bomb given that only one heritage was said to have made it, one that has no history of engineering ability.
    And why exactly did nuclear testing go underground when consumer video came along?

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @JoeJoe777

    "Amazing how people believe in the nuclear bomb ..."

    I find it a little hard to believe that these comments are serious but if they are, do you guys also believe that nuclear reactors are fake?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  340. @Nachum
    @Jack D

    Well, the movie Atonement (2007) very prominently stuck a black soldier at Dunkirk. Ten years later, Nolan made a movie all about Dunkirk, not a black person to be seen. (In the same year, a movie about Churchill at that same moment had him being inspired by a classics-quoting black man he meets on the Underground.)

    Could be Nolan just doesn't care.

    Replies: @Prester John

    If he doesn’t, then “bravo!” He would be that rare specimen in Hollyworld: a person of integrity.

  341. @HA
    @Colin Wright

    "‘Ukraine’ is a typical new-age word game."

    Kind of like the one that turned "THE Netherlands" or "THE Lebanon" into their modern article-free versions?

    Sounds like the "new age" has been around for a while. Do you get this angry when people say Gaza instead of THE Gaza strip? I doubt it.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Wielgus

    That’s odd – British English at least still says The Netherlands and they are neighbours across the sea. In fact Netherlands minus the article sounds odd. I have heard both versions of Lebanon. Dutch people in fact tend to take umbrage at “Holland” because this is in fact just one province of the country.

    • Replies: @HA
    @Wielgus

    "In fact Netherlands minus the article sounds odd."


    The official name of the country in Dutch is Koninkrijk der Nederlanden, which literally means, “Kingdom of the Low Countries”; a name that reminds us that the country was originally a confederation of independent provinces. For the sake of abbreviation, the country is often referred to as Nederland in Dutch. In English the country is officially known as the “Kingdom of the Netherlands”, or for short, “the Netherlands”.
     
    I'll give the deciding vote to Google maps, which has just "Netherlands" (alongside THE Hague), but I'm not going to get too upset about it given that no one is trying to cut it apart at present. The fact that it's always been "THE United States" doesn't bother me, but if Russia were using it as an excuse to partition off Alaska, I might well take a harder line on that, too.
    , @J.Ross
    @Wielgus

    Well they're wrong. It should be Nederland, straight adoption, because it's a case where straight adoption is actually clearer and simpler, and the nation ruled from Prague should be Checka (yes, like the Tsarist police), for the same reason.

    , @Jack D
    @Wielgus

    Not to mention "the Bronx".

    The reason that "the Ukraine" is objectionable and "the Netherlands is not" is that when the British say "the Netherlands" it is not for the purpose of claiming that the Netherlands is not a real country, but that is exactly how Rushists use it.

    , @Ralph L
    @Wielgus

    Just don't call them the Nether Regions.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Wielgus


    In fact Netherlands minus the article sounds odd.
     
    Because it's plural. Like the Philippines, the Seychelles, the Maldives, the United Arab Emirates, and the United States.

    The United Kingdom is a different story. The Gambia is named for a river.

    When Ukrainians complained 30 years ago that "the Ukraine" was demeaning, I thought, how would you know? You don't have a the in your own tongue!

    Do they pronounce it "Tchicago", like the Russians do? That's annoying. They have a ш; why reach for the ч?
  342. @anonymous
    @Intelligent Dasein


    TGM was like watching a woman’s idea of what goes on at “airplane camp,” where they imagine the fighter pilots behave no differently than the bickering girls they work with at Target.
     
    One out of five naval aviators is female. All the air crew in the Navy flyover at the Superbowl (four F/A-18s and an F-35) were women.

    https://i.imgur.com/jlVmd3y.jpg

    Above, Commander Rebecca Calder, 2004 graduate of Navy Fighter Weapons School (AKA TopGun), combat veteran of Operations Enduring Freedom, Southern Watch and Iraqi Freedom, flying the F/A-18, accrued some 2,500 flight hours and 421 carrier traps in her career.
    How about you?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    You might have missed the point.

  343. @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    Alan Clark in his history of WW2's Eastern Front Barbarossa (1964) entitled one chapter "Slaughter In The Ukraine". Yes, normal English usage. Most Slavic languages do not have a definite article so the issue does not arise in Russian, Ukrainian or Polish.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    It gets weirder. I do not thing The Ukraine is some sort of Muscovite article. It’s common English going back centuries. Same with Kiev, Key Ev. Slavs all say “Keev” I think. It’s just English. No one says Pareee when speaking English.

    • Replies: @HA
    @Wokechoke

    "I do not thing The Ukraine is some sort of Muscovite article."

    That's exactly what it is. Trolls like you use it to imply that never existed, or was only ever some geographical region, kinda like the Netherlands or the Lebanon, all of which means far less than they think it does -- again, I'm fine with keeping it THE United States -- but they have all sorts of theories for why "THE Ukraine" can only be a part of Russia, or something. Same way as they were using "junta" for a while in referring to Kyiv. At some point, they'll send out a new memo from troll HQ, and go with something else, but for now, I'm calling it out for what it is.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Colin Wright

    , @Wielgus
    @Wokechoke

    Russians say "Kee-yef". I think the Ukrainian pronunciation is "Kee-yeef". The Polish version is "Kee-yoof".

  344. HA says:
    @Wielgus
    @HA

    That's odd - British English at least still says The Netherlands and they are neighbours across the sea. In fact Netherlands minus the article sounds odd. I have heard both versions of Lebanon. Dutch people in fact tend to take umbrage at "Holland" because this is in fact just one province of the country.

    Replies: @HA, @J.Ross, @Jack D, @Ralph L, @Reg Cæsar

    “In fact Netherlands minus the article sounds odd.”

    The official name of the country in Dutch is Koninkrijk der Nederlanden, which literally means, “Kingdom of the Low Countries”; a name that reminds us that the country was originally a confederation of independent provinces. For the sake of abbreviation, the country is often referred to as Nederland in Dutch. In English the country is officially known as the “Kingdom of the Netherlands”, or for short, “the Netherlands”.

    I’ll give the deciding vote to Google maps, which has just “Netherlands” (alongside THE Hague), but I’m not going to get too upset about it given that no one is trying to cut it apart at present. The fact that it’s always been “THE United States” doesn’t bother me, but if Russia were using it as an excuse to partition off Alaska, I might well take a harder line on that, too.

  345. @Wielgus
    @HA

    That's odd - British English at least still says The Netherlands and they are neighbours across the sea. In fact Netherlands minus the article sounds odd. I have heard both versions of Lebanon. Dutch people in fact tend to take umbrage at "Holland" because this is in fact just one province of the country.

    Replies: @HA, @J.Ross, @Jack D, @Ralph L, @Reg Cæsar

    Well they’re wrong. It should be Nederland, straight adoption, because it’s a case where straight adoption is actually clearer and simpler, and the nation ruled from Prague should be Checka (yes, like the Tsarist police), for the same reason.

  346. @YetAnotherAnon
    @BB753

    Churchill said that after Pearl Harbour, when he realised that the USA, Brit Empire, plus Russia, fighting together for their lives, were 2 or 3 times stronger - in economic terms and in population terms.

    British Empire in 1941 was actually nearly as large as it had ever been.

    "How the war might end I did not know, nor did I at this moment care... we might not even have to die as individuals...I slept the sleep of the saved and thankful".

    Replies: @BB753

    The Empire was large but its armed forces not up to par with Japan ( see Singapore) or Germany ( see Dunkirk).

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @BB753

    No one's soldiers were up there with Germany's, in either war. Yet Germany lost both wars.

    The Brits just couldn't get enough kit and bodies out East - anything past India was a stretch for them. Once the two big ships were gone they were at the mercy of Japanese naval power in the Malay Pensinsula, which could land troops pretty much at will.

    But in the end they learned jungle warfare pretty well - Malaya operations post-WW2 were a lot more successful than Vietnam.

    Replies: @nebulafox

  347. @Colin Wright
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    'Indian soldiers, as they were defeating the Japanese, being ordered by their British commanders to lay down their arms and surrender.'
     
    Not exactly. The Indian divisions that were in Malaya were second-rate formations, and performed very badly.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    A great many went over to the Japanese as POWs and joined the Indian National Army. In many cases it was to get out of some horrid POW camp rather than definite pro-Japanese or Indian nationalist sentiment, but they were hardly superb soldiers.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    'A great many went over to the Japanese as POWs and joined the Indian National Army. In many cases it was to get out of some horrid POW camp rather than definite pro-Japanese or Indian nationalist sentiment, but they were hardly superb soldiers.'
     
    I have a quite unresearched suspicion that it may have been more the officers than the men. After all, there was an essentially unlimited supply of Indians -- but only so many British Indian Army officers.

    My theory would be that the best all went off first with the divisions that were sent to Africa and then with those that went to Mesopotamia. Certainly a disproportionate percentage of your fire-eaters would have wangled themselves a transfer to units slated to go overseas and into combat in 1940/early 1941.

    The ones who were left for Malaya weren't so great. Even if they were competent they probably weren't pushing themselves too hard in training -- or their men.

    I'm thinking of something similar to what happened to the US 106th Infantry Division. I recall reading that when it was still in training, the top third or so was pulled out to replace losses in divisions already overseas. Then it was filled up again.

    When it finally went into action, it promptly collapsed.

    Replies: @Wielgus

  348. @Bardon Kaldian
    What I see here (as in many other texts) is puzzlement about outsized achievement of ethnically Jewish individuals in many areas, in the US particularly (but also in the whole western world in the 20th C).

    It makes some Euro-whites uneasy, especially if they follow mostly biologically deterministic paradigms. Because, Jewish accomplishment in the past 150 or so years, in their eyes, implies that Jews are cognitively superior to them, or to put it vulgarly, not "subhuman" but "superhuman". This is illustrated by Jewish over-representation in various prizes (science Nobels), numerous distinguished Jewish figures in many areas of intellectually demanding creative fields. So, they seem to be forced to acknowledge that Jews are somehow superior, "smarter" than them- which is unpleasant. Others try to "explain" this anomaly with Jewish clannishness, various types of nefarious behavior, Jewish ethics- good or bad, depending on those who evaluate such things- or some conspiracy (which is, honestly, a fringe theory).

    Be as it may, "real" or Euro-whites are tiptoeing when seriously confronted with Jewish accomplishments (not just success) in the past century or two. They try to minimize it with various absurd theories or to dismiss it as a product of media manipulation.

    Jewish supremacists (not true achievers) are full of chest-pumping (actual men of Jewish ethnicity, as a rule, never think in generic, pseudo-racial terms of Jews. When gifted, they see a mass of truly, even more gifted Euro-whites & don't think they are somehow "genetically superior"). So, Jewish supremacism, manifested in counting Nobels etc., is a pastime of rather ordinary Jews who get a kick from the fact that Einstein and von Neumann were Jewish in the same way some English clerk of the Bartleby type feels elation thinking that Shakespeare, Newton & Darwin were English, or some Jochen the plumber experiences radiating warmth in plexus solaris upon hearing that Bach, Beethoven and Gauss were Germans.

    But what about Jewish accomplishment in the past 150-200 years? Does it prove something significant about Jewish intelligence, creativity etc.?

    3/4 "genetically" Jewish Ludwig Wittgenstein didn't have a high opinion on Jewish originality, creativity etc. He thought of them to be great only in the field of religion or saintliness- not in arts & sciences. There, for him, they were mostly just copycats, not capable of initiating anything truly new & original.

    I can offer my 0.02$.

    Some things certainly have a high correlation with IQ, culture, ethics,.... but certainly we don't know why some groups achieve so much in a period of time- when compared with similar groups- while others remain mediocre or max rather good.

    Jews, whether "pure" or diluted have been living in prosperous & advanced societies in the past 150 years; they succeeded to maximally utilize their beneficent historical traits (love of learning, focus on rational discourse, assimilationist zeal, their historical work ethics and developed imagination in discussing their religion's inconsistencies, fascination with European creative riches when they found they've been under their nose for centuries,...).

    Other super-achievers are much more impressive for anyone trying to put things in historical perspective. Not genes, but explosion of creative forces aided by commercial & spiritual climate, enabled unparalleled flourishing of Florence in two- three centuries (did Dante, Michelangelo, Leonardo, Galileo thought they were biologically superior to other Europeans & all humans?); Germans from the early 18th C to the mid 19th C, from Bach to Wagner, from Euler to Virchow, from Gauss to Bismarck); English from the 16th to the mid 19th C (and inventing Industrial revolution along the way.)

    Simply, for some time periods, some groups excel so extravagantly it is hard not to notice that .

    And that flourishing (and subsequent decline) cannot be predicted. Nor truly explained after it is gone.

    No amount of anthropology, philosophy, economy, history, geography, linguistics, psychology of religion, sociology, genetics,.... can explain the miracle of classical Greece from -700 to -200 which laid foundation for western & hence, subsequently, global civilization.

    Life just happens.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @mc23

    I’ve always been curious about the brief burst of genius in Scotland over the late 18th into the 19th century. It seems to have been a small pool of talented people that were quickly absorbed in the outside world.

    East Asians have been introduced to the scientific and industrial revolutions only relatively recently. The wars in the first half of the 20th century were a curse for them. What will they do in the next 1oo years?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @mc23

    Churchill observed that Scots were a small people that produced so many geniuses. A. Smith, Hume, Maclaurin, Black, Watt, James Hutton, J.C. Maxwell, Dunlop, Bell, Kelvin, most Irish of Scottish background like W.R. Hamilton, ... and much more. Even Walter Scott, who is dated & half-Scottish Byron.
    I guess there are tons of Scots in exact sciences.

    As far as Chinese are concerned- impossible to predict.

  349. @Jack D
    @Mark G.

    Yes, this is a weakness of democracies. People have short attention spans. Putin can stay focused and doesn't have to worry about losing elections.

    But dictatorships have weaknesses of their own. For one thing, Putin is going to kick off sooner or later. The logic of dictatorship means that you cannot allow any strong #2 to emerge who might challenge you so Putin has surrounded himself with a bunch of midget rivals who will surely fight with each other like cats and dogs when he dies.

    Of course the US is not Ukraine's only supporter. And again, as far as the US withdrawing support for Ukraine, don't count your chickens before they are hatched. Right now there is (shockingly!) politics going on in Washington which has held up the aid, but if I had to guess, Ukraine aid is going to come thru in the end.

    And it's not "the Ukraine". It's Ukraine - "the Ukraine" is some sort of annoying Rushist tic. Maybe once upon a time it meant "the borderlands" but now it's the name of a country, the same as the Russia. (The Czar's title was (at least in English - Russian has no articles) "Czar of all THE Russias".
    No one says that anymore although it actually explains a lot - Putin would also like to be Czar of all "the Russias". Russias plural meaning that in addition to Russia proper, Russian World also includes White Russia (Belarus) and New Russia (Ukraine). Maybe Alaska too!

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Patrick McNally, @Johann Ricke

    There’s been a corruption of words. An older version was to speak of “Ukrainia” and “the Ukraine” the same way one may speak of “Slovakia” and “the Slovak” or of “Czechia” and “the Czech.” The word “Ukrainia” apparently dropped off so far from use that “the Ukraine” simply ended up substituting as “Ukraine.”

  350. HA says:
    @Wokechoke
    @Wielgus

    It gets weirder. I do not thing The Ukraine is some sort of Muscovite article. It’s common English going back centuries. Same with Kiev, Key Ev. Slavs all say “Keev” I think. It’s just English. No one says Pareee when speaking English.

    Replies: @HA, @Wielgus

    “I do not thing The Ukraine is some sort of Muscovite article.”

    That’s exactly what it is. Trolls like you use it to imply that never existed, or was only ever some geographical region, kinda like the Netherlands or the Lebanon, all of which means far less than they think it does — again, I’m fine with keeping it THE United States — but they have all sorts of theories for why “THE Ukraine” can only be a part of Russia, or something. Same way as they were using “junta” for a while in referring to Kyiv. At some point, they’ll send out a new memo from troll HQ, and go with something else, but for now, I’m calling it out for what it is.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @HA

    "Same way as they were using “junta” for a while in referring to Kyiv."

    Nah - Kiev is more of a "regime".

    PS - Everything you ever wanted to know about Russian gliding bombs:

    https://bmanalysis.substack.com/p/renaissance-of-the-bomb-gliding-fabs

    This is a public information announcement.

    What's surprising is how primitive the glide kit looks - but it obviously works, and l guess you don't need a nice paint job on things that go bang.

    Replies: @HA

    , @Colin Wright
    @HA


    '...That’s exactly what it is. Trolls like you use it to imply that never existed, or was only ever some geographical region, kinda like the Netherlands or the Lebanon, all of which means far less than they think it does — again, I’m fine with keeping it THE United States — but they have all sorts of theories for why “THE Ukraine” can only be a part of Russia, or something. Same way as they were using “junta” for a while in referring to Kyiv. At some point, they’ll send out a new memo from troll HQ, and go with something else, but for now, I’m calling it out for what it is.'

     

    For me, it's just the opposite. It always was the Ukraine as far as I was concerned, and it still is -- whatever its political status.

    If to make a political point, people want to start calling it 'Ukraine,' they can -- but good luck on getting me to go along. 'The Ukraine' suits me just fine; 'Ukraine' sounds awkward.

    ...and I really see this whole dichotomy between 'the Ukraine is part of Russia' and 'the Ukraine is a separate country' as both misconceived and mischievous. The truth is somewhere in between -- and until that's recognized and peace is reached by agreeing on roughly where, this will never end well.
  351. @res
    @YetAnotherAnon


    You can get a 50mp camera in a £120 phone these days. Millions are sold. But a 50mp sensor in a mirrorless camera with a decent zoom lens costs maybe 10 times that. Not so many people buy them.
     
    Worth noting that the sensor sizes are very different. Though phone sensors are getting larger. Megapixels is far from the only spec which matters (as much as the phone camera makers would have you think otherwise).
    https://www.eoshd.com/news/smartphones-and-their-growing-threat-to-mirrorless-cameras-2022-edition/

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @YetAnotherAnon

    “the sensor sizes are very different”

    Agreed (Kodak do even bigger ones but seem to be selling to astronomers at premium prices), but as in your linked piece “the Poco X4 Pro has a 1/1.53″ sensor, larger than the iPhone 13 Pro Max. It is 12K in terms of total resolution, 108 megapixel. It costs $300. There is no way the camera industry can compete with that kind of economy of scale.

    Fortunately for the camera companies the laws of optics are likely to hang on in there a while yet, unless some genius can fit a zoom into a phone.

  352. @Wielgus
    @HA

    That's odd - British English at least still says The Netherlands and they are neighbours across the sea. In fact Netherlands minus the article sounds odd. I have heard both versions of Lebanon. Dutch people in fact tend to take umbrage at "Holland" because this is in fact just one province of the country.

    Replies: @HA, @J.Ross, @Jack D, @Ralph L, @Reg Cæsar

    Not to mention “the Bronx”.

    The reason that “the Ukraine” is objectionable and “the Netherlands is not” is that when the British say “the Netherlands” it is not for the purpose of claiming that the Netherlands is not a real country, but that is exactly how Rushists use it.

  353. @Ian Smith
    Am I the only one who thought that Oppenheimer was just a very generic Oscar-bait biopic?

    Replies: @Guest007

    Everyone who says that an award winning movie is bad or mediocre should then have to list five movies made since 2000 that they would consider outstanding. One everyone knows what a person considers good, then we can truly evaluate the opinion.

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
    @Guest007

    If they wanted to give it to a deserving ww2 movie, then Dunkirk would have been a better choice.

    Replies: @Guest007

  354. @BB753
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The Empire was large but its armed forces not up to par with Japan ( see Singapore) or Germany ( see Dunkirk).

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    No one’s soldiers were up there with Germany’s, in either war. Yet Germany lost both wars.

    The Brits just couldn’t get enough kit and bodies out East – anything past India was a stretch for them. Once the two big ships were gone they were at the mercy of Japanese naval power in the Malay Pensinsula, which could land troops pretty much at will.

    But in the end they learned jungle warfare pretty well – Malaya operations post-WW2 were a lot more successful than Vietnam.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @YetAnotherAnon

    >But in the end they learned jungle warfare pretty well – Malaya operations post-WW2 were a lot more successful than Vietnam.

    We actually used Malaya as a template in the early 1960s when training officers for the counterinsurgency warfare they were likely to find in Vietnam. However, the biggest factor in British success-exploiting the ethnic divisions in Malaya, specifically Malay alienation from the ethnic Chinese dominated Maoist insurgency-wasn't reproducible. Vietnam had its ethnic minorities that were happy to collaborate with the Americans. But they were mostly rural, politically powerless, and nowhere near as sizable.

    The Philippines probably would have been a better template to use. It wouldn't have solved some of the root causes of VC potency, or changed the core differences that South Vietnam had: the existence of the ultra-nationalistic Diem government that was doing its own thing with the kind of rivals to the VC in the 1950s that would have needed to be exploited if the success was to be replicated. However, at the very least, it would have prepared American forces for what they actually faced better.

    Not that it mattered. Any notion of fighting a proper counterinsurgency was thrown out pretty quickly once we landed in Vietnam. It didn't help that JFK was the one who was an SF/unconventional warfare enthusiast, and he met his violent end right after Diem did. This led to the usual-predictable-self-fulfilling prophecies that came with conventionally trained draftees being thrown into a guerilla war which they had no preparation for. And by the time the war became a conventional conflict (again) in the early 1970s, the American government was committed to withdrawal, and the public-while divided on the specifics-was going to tolerate nothing less due to the lies about the conflict they were fed.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @That Would Be Telling

  355. @HA
    @Wokechoke

    "I do not thing The Ukraine is some sort of Muscovite article."

    That's exactly what it is. Trolls like you use it to imply that never existed, or was only ever some geographical region, kinda like the Netherlands or the Lebanon, all of which means far less than they think it does -- again, I'm fine with keeping it THE United States -- but they have all sorts of theories for why "THE Ukraine" can only be a part of Russia, or something. Same way as they were using "junta" for a while in referring to Kyiv. At some point, they'll send out a new memo from troll HQ, and go with something else, but for now, I'm calling it out for what it is.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Colin Wright

    “Same way as they were using “junta” for a while in referring to Kyiv.”

    Nah – Kiev is more of a “regime”.

    PS – Everything you ever wanted to know about Russian gliding bombs:

    https://bmanalysis.substack.com/p/renaissance-of-the-bomb-gliding-fabs

    This is a public information announcement.

    What’s surprising is how primitive the glide kit looks – but it obviously works, and l guess you don’t need a nice paint job on things that go bang.

    • Replies: @HA
    @YetAnotherAnon

    "Nah – Kiev is more of a 'regime'”.

    Oh, the comedy! The fanboy of a dictator who has run Russia since 1999 (not counting that brief hiatus where Medvedev got to pretend he was in charge), whose opposition candidates get murdered in prison just days before they are to be part of a prisoner swap, thinks he's in a position to accuse other countries of being more of a regime.

  356. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    Nolan was allowed to make a Diversity-deprived flick because it lovingly portrays yet another jewish hoax, viz: nuclear weapons. Don't you dare oppose your masters, goy, or you'll get NUKED - cue vigorous handrubbing and maniacal cackling. Which proved to be a totally unnecessary flex, as yet another Jewish hoax viz covid had goys cowering behind their cuckdiapers for two years. If nukes are real, Israel woulda deployed them against Palestine long ago.

    Oppenheimer is a three-hour jewish flex reminding goys to be good little docile cucks, OR ELSE. I'll most def watch it when Redbox ends its kovfefe with the studio and makes it available for two dollah.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    “If nukes are real”

    LOL

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Steve Sailer

    If Israel really did have nukes, Greece would not exist.
    What TR said about Gore Vidal.

    , @Jack D
    @Steve Sailer

    https://youtu.be/38mE6ba3qj8

    Do you feel lucky, punk?

  357. @YetAnotherAnon
    @HA

    "Same way as they were using “junta” for a while in referring to Kyiv."

    Nah - Kiev is more of a "regime".

    PS - Everything you ever wanted to know about Russian gliding bombs:

    https://bmanalysis.substack.com/p/renaissance-of-the-bomb-gliding-fabs

    This is a public information announcement.

    What's surprising is how primitive the glide kit looks - but it obviously works, and l guess you don't need a nice paint job on things that go bang.

    Replies: @HA

    “Nah – Kiev is more of a ‘regime’”.

    Oh, the comedy! The fanboy of a dictator who has run Russia since 1999 (not counting that brief hiatus where Medvedev got to pretend he was in charge), whose opposition candidates get murdered in prison just days before they are to be part of a prisoner swap, thinks he’s in a position to accuse other countries of being more of a regime.

  358. @mc23
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I've always been curious about the brief burst of genius in Scotland over the late 18th into the 19th century. It seems to have been a small pool of talented people that were quickly absorbed in the outside world.

    East Asians have been introduced to the scientific and industrial revolutions only relatively recently. The wars in the first half of the 20th century were a curse for them. What will they do in the next 1oo years?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Churchill observed that Scots were a small people that produced so many geniuses. A. Smith, Hume, Maclaurin, Black, Watt, James Hutton, J.C. Maxwell, Dunlop, Bell, Kelvin, most Irish of Scottish background like W.R. Hamilton, … and much more. Even Walter Scott, who is dated & half-Scottish Byron.
    I guess there are tons of Scots in exact sciences.

    As far as Chinese are concerned- impossible to predict.

  359. @J.Ross
    @James B. Shearer

    I had a biology class with a teacher I thought was a genius, got an A, but stayed after one day to attend a bad students' plead, because I wanted to know what complaint they could possibly have about such a good teacher (Jewish by the way). I left after the first or second grievance because these kids were lazy idiots.
    I think I have seen Feynman being possibly what you mean by "demeaning," it's the interview on YouTube where the journalist is asking Feynman to essentialize and Feynman objects that this would distort the concept. Am I far off?

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    “I think I have seen Feynman being possibly what you mean by “demeaning,” it’s the interview on YouTube where the journalist is asking Feynman to essentialize and Feynman objects that this would distort the concept. Am I far off?”

    No it was more like a student would ask a dumb question and Feynman would answer in a way that emphasized how dumb the question was. This was a long time ago and my memories have faded but I do recall Feynman explaining at the start of the course that he sometimes did this and asking the students to please ask questions anyway.

    Although I wasn’t a physics major I was taking this third year course pass/fail just because Feynman was teaching it. Caltech has a three term system and by the third term I was pretty lost (in part because I wasn’t taking the other two physics courses you were supposed to be taking at the same time). So if Feynman had wanted to be mean he could have flunked me in the third term but I got what amounted to a courtesy pass instead which I consider a point in his favor.

  360. @epebble
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    It’s amazing that damage caused by atomic bombs looks 100% identical to damage caused by Uncle Samantha’s sustained firebombing campaigns of Japanese cities.


    This:


    Among the long-term effects suffered by atomic bomb survivors, the most deadly was leukemia. An increase in leukemia appeared about two years after the attacks and peaked around four to six years later. Children represent the population that was affected most severely. Attributable risk—the percent difference in the incidence rate of a condition between an exposed population and a comparable unexposed one — reveals how great of an effect radiation had on leukemia incidence. The Radiation Effects Research Foundation estimates the attributable risk of leukemia to be 46% for bomb victims.

    For all other cancers, incidence increase did not appear until around ten years after the attacks. The increase was first noted in 1956 and soon after tumor registries were started in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki to collect data on the excess cancer risks caused by the radiation exposure. The most thorough study regarding the incidence of solid cancer (meaning cancer that is not leukemia) was conducted by a team led by Dale L. Preston of Hirosoft International Corporation and published in 2003. The study estimated the attributable rate of radiation exposure to solid cancer to be significantly lower than that for leukemia—10.7%. According to the RERF, the data corroborates the general rule that even if someone is exposed to a barely survivable whole-body radiation dose, the solid cancer risk will not be more than five times greater than the risk of an unexposed individual.

    Graph of excess relative risk to exposure dose
    Nearly seventy years after the bombings occurred, most of the generation that was alive during the attack has passed away. Now much more attention has turned to the children born to the survivors. Regarding individuals who had been exposed to radiation before birth (in utero), studies, such as one led by E. Nakashima in 1994, have shown that exposure led to increases in small head size and mental disability, as well as impairment in physical growth. Persons exposed in utero were also found to have a lower increase in cancer rate than survivors who were children at the time of the attack.

    https://k1project.columbia.edu/news/hiroshima-and-nagasaki
     
    didn't happen to victims of firebombing.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Sadako Will Leben

  361. @Jack D
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    It's a funny joke but it works better in print than in real life. If you had asked Feynman about a Higgs bosn instead of boson it probably would have gone right past him given his own thick New Yawk accent. He probably wondaed why everyone else in America tawked so funny anyway.

    Nowadays, it's hard to imagine a highly educated American born person with such a thick regional accent but in those days it wasn't unusual. It is also possible that Feynman didn't make the slightest effort to get rid of his accent because he didn't consider it important just like he considered it unimportant to memorize the names and dates of personages from American history when you could always just look these up in a book if you needed to. Still it is startling today when you hear old recordings of one of the foremost geniuses of the 20th century and he sounds like a NY cab driver (or at least the way NY cab drivers USED to sound).

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Anon 2

    Feynman’s accent was OK.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Judge for yourself:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW6LYuli7VU

    As a non-native English speaker the subtleties of accents may be lost on you. When I hear Brits speaking I can spot a posh accent and a Cockney accent but in between is all sort of a blur. Native Brits can make many more subtle regional and class distinctions.

  362. @JoeJoe777
    Amazing how people believe in the nuclear bomb given that only one heritage was said to have made it, one that has no history of engineering ability.
    And why exactly did nuclear testing go underground when consumer video came along?

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    “Amazing how people believe in the nuclear bomb …”

    I find it a little hard to believe that these comments are serious but if they are, do you guys also believe that nuclear reactors are fake?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @James B. Shearer

    All those people who stood on the roofs of Las Vegas hotels to watch nuclear bomb tests around 1960s were paid off to lie that they'd seen a bright flash on the horizon?

    Same with all the sailors who'd watched nuclear bomb tests in the South Pacific?

    Who knew?

  363. @Bardon Kaldian
    @J.Ross

    This is wrong at all levels, so it doesn't deserve a comment.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Indeed.

  364. @Steve Sailer
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    "If nukes are real"

    LOL

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jack D

    If Israel really did have nukes, Greece would not exist.
    What TR said about Gore Vidal.

  365. @Anon
    Sailer wants to know why special exceptions always seem to apply to (((white))) men.

    Is Steve just playing dumb at this point?

    Could it be the same reason that Jews are allowed to be admitted way above their representative share of the overall population at the Ivies - something like 10 to 20+% when they make up just 2% of the overall population? (While white gentiles are vastly underrepresented relative to, not only merit, but their absolute fraction of the general population.)

    Could it be the same reason that Jews are allowed to make up over half of the top positions in Biden's Cabinet?

    For some reason, the demands that those in positions of power and prestige be "representative" of the general population never seems to apply to Jews who are always given special exemption from suffering the same consequences of affirmative action as white gentiles are.

    Notably, despite all the universalistic rhetoric, similar vast Jewish overrepresentation in positions of authority also occurred in the USSR. Because, as Orwell observed: All animals are equal but some animals are just more equal than others.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @JimDandy

    The crime of noticing black behavior is isn’t a very big deal when compared to the crime of noticing certain other groups’ behavior.

  366. @Steve Sailer
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    "If nukes are real"

    LOL

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jack D

    Do you feel lucky, punk?

  367. @YetAnotherAnon
    @BB753

    No one's soldiers were up there with Germany's, in either war. Yet Germany lost both wars.

    The Brits just couldn't get enough kit and bodies out East - anything past India was a stretch for them. Once the two big ships were gone they were at the mercy of Japanese naval power in the Malay Pensinsula, which could land troops pretty much at will.

    But in the end they learned jungle warfare pretty well - Malaya operations post-WW2 were a lot more successful than Vietnam.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    >But in the end they learned jungle warfare pretty well – Malaya operations post-WW2 were a lot more successful than Vietnam.

    We actually used Malaya as a template in the early 1960s when training officers for the counterinsurgency warfare they were likely to find in Vietnam. However, the biggest factor in British success-exploiting the ethnic divisions in Malaya, specifically Malay alienation from the ethnic Chinese dominated Maoist insurgency-wasn’t reproducible. Vietnam had its ethnic minorities that were happy to collaborate with the Americans. But they were mostly rural, politically powerless, and nowhere near as sizable.

    The Philippines probably would have been a better template to use. It wouldn’t have solved some of the root causes of VC potency, or changed the core differences that South Vietnam had: the existence of the ultra-nationalistic Diem government that was doing its own thing with the kind of rivals to the VC in the 1950s that would have needed to be exploited if the success was to be replicated. However, at the very least, it would have prepared American forces for what they actually faced better.

    Not that it mattered. Any notion of fighting a proper counterinsurgency was thrown out pretty quickly once we landed in Vietnam. It didn’t help that JFK was the one who was an SF/unconventional warfare enthusiast, and he met his violent end right after Diem did. This led to the usual-predictable-self-fulfilling prophecies that came with conventionally trained draftees being thrown into a guerilla war which they had no preparation for. And by the time the war became a conventional conflict (again) in the early 1970s, the American government was committed to withdrawal, and the public-while divided on the specifics-was going to tolerate nothing less due to the lies about the conflict they were fed.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @nebulafox

    Thomas Ricks book "The Generals: American Military Command from World War II to Today" taught me a lot about Vietnam (and Korea) that I was otherwise only vaguely aware of.

    , @That Would Be Telling
    @nebulafox


    And by the time the war became a conventional conflict (again) in the early 1970s, the American government was committed to withdrawal, and the public-while divided on the specifics-was going to tolerate nothing less due to the lies about the conflict they were fed.
     
    True, and one interpretation of Nixon's final electoral victories, then the Silent Coup used against him as one book title that focuses on James Dean's role puts it, is that we hired a Quaker to end the war.

    But there's a few things worth pointing out about the early to mid-1970s phases of the Vietnam War; most of this is my memory of Jerry Pournelle's take:

    "Vietnamization" worked (and I'm reading a book right now about the Tet Offensive battle for Hue where the ARVN also did pretty well; note that link is to the legit free PDF version):

    In the 1972 Easter Offensive the north committed an entire 150,000 man mechanized army (Wikipedia doubles that for the total committed) and with US air support, including early use of smart bombs which I remember hearing about as it happened, we stomped it flat. 40,000 men considered themselves to be lucky to make it back to the north (and that agrees well enough with Wikipedia's figures). OK, from later memory Wikipedia etc. says the north did make some long term damaging territorial gains.

    The second time they tried that Watergate had weakened Nixon et. al. so much the Democratic Congress, which was by then firmly on the side of International Communism, denied the south the ammunition they needed to fight, plus of course no US air support. Like, each infantryman had less than a hundred rounds and only one grenade.

    BUT! outfitting the north with the equipment for three entire mechanized armies, the first was used up piecemeal before 1972, was a big factor in bankrupting the Evil Empire.

    See also the recent revisionist reading of the wealth they put into their Strategic Rocket Forces, which a lot of us read as aiming for a first strike capability, more being due to internal power plays and the usual misallocation of resources that come from them.

    Going back to Jerry Pournelle, he said that around 1970 the Soviets started putting a lot of SS-9s on soft launching pads which he another others interpreted as an imminent first strike danger (back then he was employed to do this sort of analysis). But that also fits very well with the revisionist take, especially since that version was a somewhat limited instrument, three MRV but not MIRV warheads, unlike its SS-18 successor aptly code named Satan with ten or more MIRV warheads.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @J.Ross

  368. @Colin Wright
    @Steve Sailer


    'What was the German plan in 1918 to do with Ukraine?'
     
    I imagine that in 1918 'the plan' was to get as much grain as possible out of the Ukraine as soon as possible to address Germany's state of near-starvation -- and to hell with everything else.

    As to what would have happened long-term if Germany had in fact avoided defeat in the West...given Wilhelmine Germany's relatively mild attitudes and a probable desire to permanently weaken Russia, an amusing thought comes to mind.

    Germany would probably have wound up doing just about what we're trying to do: sponsor a Ukraine firmly allied with herself and completely independent from and hostile to Muscovy.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    >Germany would probably have wound up doing just about what we’re trying to do: sponsor a Ukraine firmly allied with herself and completely independent from and hostile to Muscovy.

    At the end of the day, though, Russian actions are what truly stoked Ukrainian nationalism, not foreign support. There’s a reason that all the prewar Ukrainian political parties in Galicia pledged their support to Austria in any war in 1912.

    One underrated factor is the Austro-Hungarian angle in this. In 1918, a moderate majority of the CP soldiers in Ukraine were from the Dual Monarchy. They were under German management, but ultimately answered to Vienna and its orders.For several reasons-their own internal situation, yes, but also to counterbalance and dilute German power-they would have preferred an autonomous federalized monarchy to the Hetmanate. They even apparently considered launching a coup against the Hetmanate when it became clear that it was a tool of the local aristocracy working with the Germans.

    It’s kind of ironic given the atrocious actions against Austria-Hungary’s own ethnic Ukrainians undertaken by the Polish dominated Galician government and Dual Monarchy forces in the early stages of the war. But the sheer aversion to the Bolsheviks felt by many Ukrainians, by no means all right-wing, shouldn’t be underestimated. Especially since rival revolutionaries were very strong in places like Ukraine (anarchists), Central Asia (Islamic inspired socialists), the Caucasus (Mensheviks-that’s a whole ‘nuther story, and also involves the Turkish “Alsace-Lorraine”).

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @nebulafox


    'At the end of the day, though, Russian actions are what truly stoked Ukrainian nationalism, not foreign support. There’s a reason that all the prewar Ukrainian political parties in Galicia pledged their support to Austria in any war in 1912.'
     
    This reminds me of two points. First, the Bolshevik experience in particular didn't win Ukrainian hearts and minds. If being part of the Soviet Union hadn't been so horrible, we wouldn't be here.

    Second -- as one look at election results will reveal -- the Ukraine has several components.

    1. Galicia, which was first Polish, then Austrian, and then Polish again -- but only Russian from 1944 to 1991.

    2. The more eastern part of the Ukraine, which had been Russian more or less from 1654 on.

    3. 'Novorossiya' (sic) and the Crimea -- which were never clearly part of the Ukraine at all.

    So just saying 'Russia is one country and the Ukraine' is another is no more accurate than saying 'the Ukraine is Russian.'

    If only it were that clear-cut.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @J.Ross

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @nebulafox

    I had a longish chat a few days back with a Romanian guy working over here. He detests the Ukrainians and wants Russia to take the whole place so that Romania can get Bessarabia back, which in his eyes was stolen by Ukraine. I neither agreed nor disagreed.

    It was his vehemence that struck me, and makes me realise yet again

    a) how deep the animosities are in the Bloodlands.
    b) how wise we would be to stay out

    I wonder if Hungarians feel the same about what used to be called sub-Carpathian Ruthenia?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Frau Katze

  369. @Wielgus
    @HA

    That's odd - British English at least still says The Netherlands and they are neighbours across the sea. In fact Netherlands minus the article sounds odd. I have heard both versions of Lebanon. Dutch people in fact tend to take umbrage at "Holland" because this is in fact just one province of the country.

    Replies: @HA, @J.Ross, @Jack D, @Ralph L, @Reg Cæsar

    Just don’t call them the Nether Regions.

  370. @Colin Wright
    @HA


    Kind of like the one that turned “THE Netherlands” or “THE Lebanon” into their modern article-free versions?

    Sounds like the “new age” has been around for a while. Do you get this angry when people say Gaza instead of THE Gaza strip? I doubt it.
     
    I'd say 'the Netherlands.' Saying 'Netherlands' would be awkward and grammatically nonsensical. After all, the term means 'lower lands.' Unless one is intending to encompass the Mekong Delta in the discussion, it would be best to imply that you are referring to a specific set of lower lands.

    But enough of that. More significantly, the transition from 'The Ukraine' to 'Ukraine' seems to have been a more ideologically motivated and consciously imposed change than your other examples. You're right, for example, about 'Lebanon' rather than 'the Lebanon,' but if anyone did that by design, it was a good eighty years ago that it happened.

    No sense in trying to reverse it now. But I grew up with 'the Ukraine' -- sure as I grew up with "Munich' and 'Cologne.' I fail to see why I have to sign on with the 'Ukraine' brigade when the intent of the coinage is obviously to impose implicit support for our position in the current fracas.

    As to 'Gaza,' it would still be 'the Gaza Strip' if Israel weren't always trying to seize control of it. Now that Israel has oinked it up (again) and is enjoying herself playing 'suppress the Warsaw Uprising' with the place, it's 'Gaza.'

    Replies: @Art Deco

    As to ‘Gaza,’ it would still be ‘the Gaza Strip’ if Israel weren’t always trying to seize control of it.
    ==
    Israel has seized it twice in the space of 75 years, a tad less than always. They did so for an excellent reason both times.

  371. @Frau Katze
    @Ben Kurtz

    Re: Niels Bohr

    According to Wikipedia:


    In September 1943 word reached Bohr that he was about to be arrested by the Germans, so he fled to Sweden. From there, he was flown to Britain, where he joined the British Tube Alloys nuclear weapons project, and was part of the British mission to the Manhattan Project.
     
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niels_Bohr

    Replies: @Ben Kurtz

    So… Manhattan Project adjacent…

    Close enough counts in horseshoes, at least.

    • Agree: Frau Katze
  372. @J.Ross
    @Hibernian

    There ya go. Lutherans all. Were we to have institutional ... not bigotry, but an eye on the Lutherans of the world, we would have a level of protection we do not have. Thus the committed rejection of such a layer.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Hiss was a WASP and Duggan is an Irish name, admit I’m not sure he was Catholic, if so, not a very good one to say the least. Then there’s Aldrich Ames, the Walkers, and Ana Belen Montes.

  373. @Wielgus
    @HA

    That's odd - British English at least still says The Netherlands and they are neighbours across the sea. In fact Netherlands minus the article sounds odd. I have heard both versions of Lebanon. Dutch people in fact tend to take umbrage at "Holland" because this is in fact just one province of the country.

    Replies: @HA, @J.Ross, @Jack D, @Ralph L, @Reg Cæsar

    In fact Netherlands minus the article sounds odd.

    Because it’s plural. Like the Philippines, the Seychelles, the Maldives, the United Arab Emirates, and the United States.

    The United Kingdom is a different story. The Gambia is named for a river.

    When Ukrainians complained 30 years ago that “the Ukraine” was demeaning, I thought, how would you know? You don’t have a the in your own tongue!

    Do they pronounce it “Tchicago”, like the Russians do? That’s annoying. They have a ш; why reach for the ч?

  374. @HA
    @Wokechoke

    "I do not thing The Ukraine is some sort of Muscovite article."

    That's exactly what it is. Trolls like you use it to imply that never existed, or was only ever some geographical region, kinda like the Netherlands or the Lebanon, all of which means far less than they think it does -- again, I'm fine with keeping it THE United States -- but they have all sorts of theories for why "THE Ukraine" can only be a part of Russia, or something. Same way as they were using "junta" for a while in referring to Kyiv. At some point, they'll send out a new memo from troll HQ, and go with something else, but for now, I'm calling it out for what it is.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Colin Wright

    ‘…That’s exactly what it is. Trolls like you use it to imply that never existed, or was only ever some geographical region, kinda like the Netherlands or the Lebanon, all of which means far less than they think it does — again, I’m fine with keeping it THE United States — but they have all sorts of theories for why “THE Ukraine” can only be a part of Russia, or something. Same way as they were using “junta” for a while in referring to Kyiv. At some point, they’ll send out a new memo from troll HQ, and go with something else, but for now, I’m calling it out for what it is.’

    For me, it’s just the opposite. It always was the Ukraine as far as I was concerned, and it still is — whatever its political status.

    If to make a political point, people want to start calling it ‘Ukraine,’ they can — but good luck on getting me to go along. ‘The Ukraine’ suits me just fine; ‘Ukraine’ sounds awkward.

    …and I really see this whole dichotomy between ‘the Ukraine is part of Russia’ and ‘the Ukraine is a separate country’ as both misconceived and mischievous. The truth is somewhere in between — and until that’s recognized and peace is reached by agreeing on roughly where, this will never end well.

  375. @nebulafox
    @Colin Wright

    >Germany would probably have wound up doing just about what we’re trying to do: sponsor a Ukraine firmly allied with herself and completely independent from and hostile to Muscovy.

    At the end of the day, though, Russian actions are what truly stoked Ukrainian nationalism, not foreign support. There's a reason that all the prewar Ukrainian political parties in Galicia pledged their support to Austria in any war in 1912.

    One underrated factor is the Austro-Hungarian angle in this. In 1918, a moderate majority of the CP soldiers in Ukraine were from the Dual Monarchy. They were under German management, but ultimately answered to Vienna and its orders.For several reasons-their own internal situation, yes, but also to counterbalance and dilute German power-they would have preferred an autonomous federalized monarchy to the Hetmanate. They even apparently considered launching a coup against the Hetmanate when it became clear that it was a tool of the local aristocracy working with the Germans.

    It's kind of ironic given the atrocious actions against Austria-Hungary's own ethnic Ukrainians undertaken by the Polish dominated Galician government and Dual Monarchy forces in the early stages of the war. But the sheer aversion to the Bolsheviks felt by many Ukrainians, by no means all right-wing, shouldn't be underestimated. Especially since rival revolutionaries were very strong in places like Ukraine (anarchists), Central Asia (Islamic inspired socialists), the Caucasus (Mensheviks-that's a whole 'nuther story, and also involves the Turkish "Alsace-Lorraine").

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @YetAnotherAnon

    ‘At the end of the day, though, Russian actions are what truly stoked Ukrainian nationalism, not foreign support. There’s a reason that all the prewar Ukrainian political parties in Galicia pledged their support to Austria in any war in 1912.’

    This reminds me of two points. First, the Bolshevik experience in particular didn’t win Ukrainian hearts and minds. If being part of the Soviet Union hadn’t been so horrible, we wouldn’t be here.

    Second — as one look at election results will reveal — the Ukraine has several components.

    1. Galicia, which was first Polish, then Austrian, and then Polish again — but only Russian from 1944 to 1991.

    2. The more eastern part of the Ukraine, which had been Russian more or less from 1654 on.

    3. ‘Novorossiya’ (sic) and the Crimea — which were never clearly part of the Ukraine at all.

    So just saying ‘Russia is one country and the Ukraine’ is another is no more accurate than saying ‘the Ukraine is Russian.’

    If only it were that clear-cut.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Colin Wright

    >2. The more eastern part of the Ukraine, which had been Russian more or less from 1654 on.

    Very good, that date. :)

    >If only it were that clear-cut.

    Only thing I have to add is that it wasn't uncommon back in those days to have cities and the surrounding countryside dominated by different ethnic groups. That was the case in Galicia: Poles and Jews in the towns, Ukrainians in the countryside. After the brutalization of WWI and the complete social breakdown it spawned, violence was inevitable.

    (Another notable example was Polish/Yiddish speaking Wilno: Lithuanians were nonexistent in their own future capital. On the other end of the partition, the situation played out in reverse, with German speaking cities and the surrounding Polish dominated countryside. I'm sure we could go on. A good non-European example until relatively recently was Malaysia's ethnic Chinese dominated towns.)

    Then again, it wasn't necessarily better when this wasn't the case. In Upper Silesia, where the ethnic divide was a lot less clear-cut and the whole region shared the same industrial socioeconomic character, the locals ended up getting terrorized by the Freikorps and the new Polish Republic alike.

    , @J.Ross
    @Colin Wright

    It is, and it will in all likelihood get cut. Russia is currently determining the location of the cut with the involuntary cooperation of Kiev.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  376. @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    A great many went over to the Japanese as POWs and joined the Indian National Army. In many cases it was to get out of some horrid POW camp rather than definite pro-Japanese or Indian nationalist sentiment, but they were hardly superb soldiers.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘A great many went over to the Japanese as POWs and joined the Indian National Army. In many cases it was to get out of some horrid POW camp rather than definite pro-Japanese or Indian nationalist sentiment, but they were hardly superb soldiers.’

    I have a quite unresearched suspicion that it may have been more the officers than the men. After all, there was an essentially unlimited supply of Indians — but only so many British Indian Army officers.

    My theory would be that the best all went off first with the divisions that were sent to Africa and then with those that went to Mesopotamia. Certainly a disproportionate percentage of your fire-eaters would have wangled themselves a transfer to units slated to go overseas and into combat in 1940/early 1941.

    The ones who were left for Malaya weren’t so great. Even if they were competent they probably weren’t pushing themselves too hard in training — or their men.

    I’m thinking of something similar to what happened to the US 106th Infantry Division. I recall reading that when it was still in training, the top third or so was pulled out to replace losses in divisions already overseas. Then it was filled up again.

    When it finally went into action, it promptly collapsed.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    I don't know if the officers were more or less willing to go over to the INA on capture/surrender. Singapore was a stunning collapse and the British Empire and its prestige never recovered. The proportion of Indian soldiers who went over to the Germans was a lot lower but this could be because a Singapore-type disaster never happened in Europe or North Africa.
    Whether the 106th was particularly poor or just unlucky, I don't know. I have the impression it was at Ground Zero of the German attack and this was not a good place to be. The division had a high proportion of ex-Army Specialized Training Program members, one of them Kurt Vonnegut. They had a reputation for being clever but also rather unsoldierly.

  377. @James B. Shearer
    @JoeJoe777

    "Amazing how people believe in the nuclear bomb ..."

    I find it a little hard to believe that these comments are serious but if they are, do you guys also believe that nuclear reactors are fake?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    All those people who stood on the roofs of Las Vegas hotels to watch nuclear bomb tests around 1960s were paid off to lie that they’d seen a bright flash on the horizon?

    Same with all the sailors who’d watched nuclear bomb tests in the South Pacific?

    Who knew?

  378. @Ron Unz
    @Colin Wright


    There did used to be a very strong consciousness of the divide between what one might term ‘legacy Americans’ and the various immigrant groups who poured in at the end of the Nineteenth Century...I don’t know if many still saw Italians, etc as ‘not white’ — but they don’t necessarily seem to have been seen as American.
     
    Sure. But I'd say that anyone in the 1920s or 1930s who claimed that Irish, Poles, or Jews for that matter weren't "white" would have been considered a lunatic.

    I think the best framework was sketched out by Wilmot Robertson in his 1972 book The Dispossessed Majority. He divided the American population into three groups: the Majority, Assimilable Minorities, and Non-Assimilable Minorities. By the 1920s, the Irish and the Poles were might have still been in the second category or perhaps had already moved to the first.

    Robertson was the founding father of modern American White Nationalism and his book became the ur-text of that movement. For those interested, it's available here in convenient HTML format and I also discussed Robertson at length in my 2020 intellectual survey article:

    https://www.unz.com/book/wilmot_robertson__the-dispossessed-majority/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/white-racialism-in-america-then-and-now/#wilmot-robertson-the-dispossessed-majority-and-instauration

    But although I think the framework Robertson developed in 1972 was generally correct, that was more than a half-century ago and obviously it needs to be updated. I discussed some of those issues in an article a year or two ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/hispanics-and-asians-join-the-white-political-mainstream/

    Replies: @Alfa158

    I’m Italian and members of my family and former residents of our old town have been emigrating to the US for over a century. Their official US documents had a racial categorization that always described them as White, and I don’t know any of them to have encountered anything to suggest there was any discrimination or hostility to them on the basis of being Italian or non-White. This was the case not only with my dad’s side of the family who were are pale and blue-eyed, but also my mother’s side who look more like Moroccans. Some paisanos and relatives even almost immediately began intermarrying with non-Italians with no issues.
    Quite the contrary, the only prejudice I ever observed was in the opposite direction. Being from an insular small town in Lazio, there was an inherent bias that non-Italians were inferior to us and marrying a non-Italian was regarded with mild disapproval as a step-down, particularly so if the spouse was not a Roman Catholic. Mom kept trying to match me with Italian girls and only grudgingly accepted my Germanic heritage wife because she was at least a Catholic.
    My mother who was born in 1909 had prejudices that were almost laughable in their radicalism. She basically regarded Italy as a peninsula of civilization, enlightenment and Christianity, located between the dangerous barbarians heretics to the north, and the primitive pagan ape-men south of the Mediterranean.
    Being non-White was not a problem for Italians or Irish people, at least not since the beginning of the 20th Century.

    • Thanks: Frau Katze
  379. @Colin Wright
    @nebulafox


    'At the end of the day, though, Russian actions are what truly stoked Ukrainian nationalism, not foreign support. There’s a reason that all the prewar Ukrainian political parties in Galicia pledged their support to Austria in any war in 1912.'
     
    This reminds me of two points. First, the Bolshevik experience in particular didn't win Ukrainian hearts and minds. If being part of the Soviet Union hadn't been so horrible, we wouldn't be here.

    Second -- as one look at election results will reveal -- the Ukraine has several components.

    1. Galicia, which was first Polish, then Austrian, and then Polish again -- but only Russian from 1944 to 1991.

    2. The more eastern part of the Ukraine, which had been Russian more or less from 1654 on.

    3. 'Novorossiya' (sic) and the Crimea -- which were never clearly part of the Ukraine at all.

    So just saying 'Russia is one country and the Ukraine' is another is no more accurate than saying 'the Ukraine is Russian.'

    If only it were that clear-cut.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @J.Ross

    >2. The more eastern part of the Ukraine, which had been Russian more or less from 1654 on.

    Very good, that date. 🙂

    >If only it were that clear-cut.

    Only thing I have to add is that it wasn’t uncommon back in those days to have cities and the surrounding countryside dominated by different ethnic groups. That was the case in Galicia: Poles and Jews in the towns, Ukrainians in the countryside. After the brutalization of WWI and the complete social breakdown it spawned, violence was inevitable.

    (Another notable example was Polish/Yiddish speaking Wilno: Lithuanians were nonexistent in their own future capital. On the other end of the partition, the situation played out in reverse, with German speaking cities and the surrounding Polish dominated countryside. I’m sure we could go on. A good non-European example until relatively recently was Malaysia’s ethnic Chinese dominated towns.)

    Then again, it wasn’t necessarily better when this wasn’t the case. In Upper Silesia, where the ethnic divide was a lot less clear-cut and the whole region shared the same industrial socioeconomic character, the locals ended up getting terrorized by the Freikorps and the new Polish Republic alike.

  380. @Jack D
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    It's a funny joke but it works better in print than in real life. If you had asked Feynman about a Higgs bosn instead of boson it probably would have gone right past him given his own thick New Yawk accent. He probably wondaed why everyone else in America tawked so funny anyway.

    Nowadays, it's hard to imagine a highly educated American born person with such a thick regional accent but in those days it wasn't unusual. It is also possible that Feynman didn't make the slightest effort to get rid of his accent because he didn't consider it important just like he considered it unimportant to memorize the names and dates of personages from American history when you could always just look these up in a book if you needed to. Still it is startling today when you hear old recordings of one of the foremost geniuses of the 20th century and he sounds like a NY cab driver (or at least the way NY cab drivers USED to sound).

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Anon 2

    Re: Feynman as one of the foremost geniuses of the 20th century?

    As a student I once had a conversation with Feynman, so I can say that in his
    later years he was very approachable but it’s an exaggeration to claim he was
    one of the foremost geniuses of the 20th century. The key fact is that until
    the 1950s, i.e., until the postwar years when Europe lay in ruins, American
    physics was second-rate. Oppenheimer is regarded by physicists as mostly
    a bureaucrat, something that the movie carefully conceals. He never
    published a long paper, and was too scattered in his interests, third rate
    at best as a physicist.

    As to Feynman, he is best known as the inventor of so-called Feynman
    diagrams, a particle approach to quantum field theory. Many regard it
    as a pedagogical gimmick without a deeper meaning. The scandal is
    that Feynman lacks a famous equation named after himself. There is
    an anecdote about it: Dirac, famous for the Dirac equation, once
    asked Feynman at a conference, “I have an equation. Do you?”
    Feynman’s IQ was only 125, nothing to write home about. Once
    when he was asked to give a series of lectures in Brazil, he started
    studying Spanish, etc. But there is no question that he was a great
    pedagogue.

    This fits the standard view that Europe is Greece, and the U.S., due
    to its anti-intellectualism, is Rome. It tells you everything you
    want to know that a middle-brow composer like Gershwin is
    regarded as great. The same goes for a middle-brow director
    like Spielberg. The U.S, turns everything into a business. Movies
    are evaluated primarily by their box office receipts, music by
    Billboard rankings. Because of this America used to have a pop
    culture that was the 7th Wonder of the World, but little in the
    way of a high culture.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Anon 2

    "...Feynman’s IQ was only 125, nothing to write home about. ..."

    Apparently he scored 125 on one test. I expect it was actually quite a bit higher. He was a Putnam fellow (top five scorer) which indicates very high math ability.

    Replies: @Jack D

  381. @Jack D
    @Mark G.

    Yes, this is a weakness of democracies. People have short attention spans. Putin can stay focused and doesn't have to worry about losing elections.

    But dictatorships have weaknesses of their own. For one thing, Putin is going to kick off sooner or later. The logic of dictatorship means that you cannot allow any strong #2 to emerge who might challenge you so Putin has surrounded himself with a bunch of midget rivals who will surely fight with each other like cats and dogs when he dies.

    Of course the US is not Ukraine's only supporter. And again, as far as the US withdrawing support for Ukraine, don't count your chickens before they are hatched. Right now there is (shockingly!) politics going on in Washington which has held up the aid, but if I had to guess, Ukraine aid is going to come thru in the end.

    And it's not "the Ukraine". It's Ukraine - "the Ukraine" is some sort of annoying Rushist tic. Maybe once upon a time it meant "the borderlands" but now it's the name of a country, the same as the Russia. (The Czar's title was (at least in English - Russian has no articles) "Czar of all THE Russias".
    No one says that anymore although it actually explains a lot - Putin would also like to be Czar of all "the Russias". Russias plural meaning that in addition to Russia proper, Russian World also includes White Russia (Belarus) and New Russia (Ukraine). Maybe Alaska too!

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Patrick McNally, @Johann Ricke

    The logic of dictatorship means that you cannot allow any strong #2 to emerge who might challenge you so Putin has surrounded himself with a bunch of midget rivals who will surely fight with each other like cats and dogs when he dies.

    It’s no different with democracies – all leaders seek to suppress their rivals. The difference is that dictators are the state, and can use its coercive powers to suppress those rivals much as you’d flip a switch to turn off the light, whereas democrats must work through persuasion, and often fail.

  382. @Suburban Dad
    The Manhattan Project-era Jewish scientists were generally a bit embarrassed to be Jewish. They were mainly from upper class German / Western European roots, while in the U.S. the majority of Jews were Yiddish-speaking Eastern European rustics. They saw Jewish religious practice as a pile of time-wasting superstition that they - or in a lot of cases, their families multiple generations back - had shed in favor of secularism.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Anonymous, @BB753

    But ordinary Americans weren’t allowed to be embarrassed by those same Eastern Jews. Or else. That was what the ACLU and ADL were created for.

  383. @J.Ross
    @BB753

    Vicki could tell you that the State Department has always found regime change in Kiev far more convenient than in Moscow.

    Replies: @BB753

    Ultimately, every US sponsored regime change has failed. You just can’t go around changing regimes you don’t agree with. The alternative is diplomacy and economic cooperation, which is where China and Russia have beaten America.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @BB753

    I think I found the issue years ago, when I pondered why Hizbullah was so very good, but whoever we sponsor turns out to be a moron: we first look for controllable morons and then hope that US technology and CIA or Special Operations handlers will be able to get them to the finish line, whereas Iran and Russia looks for talent and ensures loyalty through other means.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    , @Jack D
    @BB753


    Ultimately, every US sponsored regime change has failed.
     
    This is false. Germany, Japan, Panama, Grenada, etc. We've done plenty of successful regime changes. Regime change might be wrong or immoral or evil or something but you can't say that it always fails. The whole reason great (and lesser) powers try it is because it has a good chance of success. If it ALWAYS failed then it would be insanity to spend blood and treasure on it, but it doesn't.

    You just can’t go around changing regimes you don’t agree with. The alternative is diplomacy and economic cooperation, which is where China and Russia have beaten America.
     
    Diplomacy and economic cooperation like Russia tried in Ukraine? Like China used in Tibet and Korea? Please don't make me laugh.

    It turns out that you CAN go around changing regimes you don’t agree with, if you can get away with it.

    Replies: @BB753

  384. @nebulafox
    @YetAnotherAnon

    >But in the end they learned jungle warfare pretty well – Malaya operations post-WW2 were a lot more successful than Vietnam.

    We actually used Malaya as a template in the early 1960s when training officers for the counterinsurgency warfare they were likely to find in Vietnam. However, the biggest factor in British success-exploiting the ethnic divisions in Malaya, specifically Malay alienation from the ethnic Chinese dominated Maoist insurgency-wasn't reproducible. Vietnam had its ethnic minorities that were happy to collaborate with the Americans. But they were mostly rural, politically powerless, and nowhere near as sizable.

    The Philippines probably would have been a better template to use. It wouldn't have solved some of the root causes of VC potency, or changed the core differences that South Vietnam had: the existence of the ultra-nationalistic Diem government that was doing its own thing with the kind of rivals to the VC in the 1950s that would have needed to be exploited if the success was to be replicated. However, at the very least, it would have prepared American forces for what they actually faced better.

    Not that it mattered. Any notion of fighting a proper counterinsurgency was thrown out pretty quickly once we landed in Vietnam. It didn't help that JFK was the one who was an SF/unconventional warfare enthusiast, and he met his violent end right after Diem did. This led to the usual-predictable-self-fulfilling prophecies that came with conventionally trained draftees being thrown into a guerilla war which they had no preparation for. And by the time the war became a conventional conflict (again) in the early 1970s, the American government was committed to withdrawal, and the public-while divided on the specifics-was going to tolerate nothing less due to the lies about the conflict they were fed.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @That Would Be Telling

    Thomas Ricks book “The Generals: American Military Command from World War II to Today” taught me a lot about Vietnam (and Korea) that I was otherwise only vaguely aware of.

  385. @nebulafox
    @Colin Wright

    >Germany would probably have wound up doing just about what we’re trying to do: sponsor a Ukraine firmly allied with herself and completely independent from and hostile to Muscovy.

    At the end of the day, though, Russian actions are what truly stoked Ukrainian nationalism, not foreign support. There's a reason that all the prewar Ukrainian political parties in Galicia pledged their support to Austria in any war in 1912.

    One underrated factor is the Austro-Hungarian angle in this. In 1918, a moderate majority of the CP soldiers in Ukraine were from the Dual Monarchy. They were under German management, but ultimately answered to Vienna and its orders.For several reasons-their own internal situation, yes, but also to counterbalance and dilute German power-they would have preferred an autonomous federalized monarchy to the Hetmanate. They even apparently considered launching a coup against the Hetmanate when it became clear that it was a tool of the local aristocracy working with the Germans.

    It's kind of ironic given the atrocious actions against Austria-Hungary's own ethnic Ukrainians undertaken by the Polish dominated Galician government and Dual Monarchy forces in the early stages of the war. But the sheer aversion to the Bolsheviks felt by many Ukrainians, by no means all right-wing, shouldn't be underestimated. Especially since rival revolutionaries were very strong in places like Ukraine (anarchists), Central Asia (Islamic inspired socialists), the Caucasus (Mensheviks-that's a whole 'nuther story, and also involves the Turkish "Alsace-Lorraine").

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @YetAnotherAnon

    I had a longish chat a few days back with a Romanian guy working over here. He detests the Ukrainians and wants Russia to take the whole place so that Romania can get Bessarabia back, which in his eyes was stolen by Ukraine. I neither agreed nor disagreed.

    It was his vehemence that struck me, and makes me realise yet again

    a) how deep the animosities are in the Bloodlands.
    b) how wise we would be to stay out

    I wonder if Hungarians feel the same about what used to be called sub-Carpathian Ruthenia?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Bessarabia (aka Moldova) wasn't stolen by Ukrainians. It's a sovereign state. Favoring merger with Roumania is a minority viewpoint there. (I've been told by self-identified Roumanians that merger with Moldova is an idea regarded with some reserve in Roumania because of Moldova's lousy economy).

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Frau Katze
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Romania got a good-sized chunk of Hungary after WW1–there are about 1 million Hungarians in the country—so maybe they should curb their ambition for lost lands and be happy with what they’ve got.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  386. @Guest007
    @Ian Smith

    Everyone who says that an award winning movie is bad or mediocre should then have to list five movies made since 2000 that they would consider outstanding. One everyone knows what a person considers good, then we can truly evaluate the opinion.

    Replies: @Ian Smith

    If they wanted to give it to a deserving ww2 movie, then Dunkirk would have been a better choice.

    • Replies: @Guest007
    @Ian Smith

    Very few critics would consider Dunkirk better than Oppenheimer consider the story line issues. On Rotten Tomatoes, Dunkirk has an 81% audience score whereas Oppenheimer has a 91% score.

  387. @Wokechoke
    @Wielgus

    It gets weirder. I do not thing The Ukraine is some sort of Muscovite article. It’s common English going back centuries. Same with Kiev, Key Ev. Slavs all say “Keev” I think. It’s just English. No one says Pareee when speaking English.

    Replies: @HA, @Wielgus

    Russians say “Kee-yef”. I think the Ukrainian pronunciation is “Kee-yeef”. The Polish version is “Kee-yoof”.

  388. @Colin Wright
    @nebulafox


    'At the end of the day, though, Russian actions are what truly stoked Ukrainian nationalism, not foreign support. There’s a reason that all the prewar Ukrainian political parties in Galicia pledged their support to Austria in any war in 1912.'
     
    This reminds me of two points. First, the Bolshevik experience in particular didn't win Ukrainian hearts and minds. If being part of the Soviet Union hadn't been so horrible, we wouldn't be here.

    Second -- as one look at election results will reveal -- the Ukraine has several components.

    1. Galicia, which was first Polish, then Austrian, and then Polish again -- but only Russian from 1944 to 1991.

    2. The more eastern part of the Ukraine, which had been Russian more or less from 1654 on.

    3. 'Novorossiya' (sic) and the Crimea -- which were never clearly part of the Ukraine at all.

    So just saying 'Russia is one country and the Ukraine' is another is no more accurate than saying 'the Ukraine is Russian.'

    If only it were that clear-cut.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @J.Ross

    It is, and it will in all likelihood get cut. Russia is currently determining the location of the cut with the involuntary cooperation of Kiev.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @J.Ross


    It is, and it will in all likelihood get cut. Russia is currently determining the location of the cut with the involuntary cooperation of Kiev.
     
    ...while we strive to prevent any resolution.
  389. @nebulafox
    @YetAnotherAnon

    >But in the end they learned jungle warfare pretty well – Malaya operations post-WW2 were a lot more successful than Vietnam.

    We actually used Malaya as a template in the early 1960s when training officers for the counterinsurgency warfare they were likely to find in Vietnam. However, the biggest factor in British success-exploiting the ethnic divisions in Malaya, specifically Malay alienation from the ethnic Chinese dominated Maoist insurgency-wasn't reproducible. Vietnam had its ethnic minorities that were happy to collaborate with the Americans. But they were mostly rural, politically powerless, and nowhere near as sizable.

    The Philippines probably would have been a better template to use. It wouldn't have solved some of the root causes of VC potency, or changed the core differences that South Vietnam had: the existence of the ultra-nationalistic Diem government that was doing its own thing with the kind of rivals to the VC in the 1950s that would have needed to be exploited if the success was to be replicated. However, at the very least, it would have prepared American forces for what they actually faced better.

    Not that it mattered. Any notion of fighting a proper counterinsurgency was thrown out pretty quickly once we landed in Vietnam. It didn't help that JFK was the one who was an SF/unconventional warfare enthusiast, and he met his violent end right after Diem did. This led to the usual-predictable-self-fulfilling prophecies that came with conventionally trained draftees being thrown into a guerilla war which they had no preparation for. And by the time the war became a conventional conflict (again) in the early 1970s, the American government was committed to withdrawal, and the public-while divided on the specifics-was going to tolerate nothing less due to the lies about the conflict they were fed.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @That Would Be Telling

    And by the time the war became a conventional conflict (again) in the early 1970s, the American government was committed to withdrawal, and the public-while divided on the specifics-was going to tolerate nothing less due to the lies about the conflict they were fed.

    True, and one interpretation of Nixon’s final electoral victories, then the Silent Coup used against him as one book title that focuses on James Dean’s role puts it, is that we hired a Quaker to end the war.

    But there’s a few things worth pointing out about the early to mid-1970s phases of the Vietnam War; most of this is my memory of Jerry Pournelle’s take:

    “Vietnamization” worked (and I’m reading a book right now about the Tet Offensive battle for Hue where the ARVN also did pretty well; note that link is to the legit free PDF version):

    In the 1972 Easter Offensive the north committed an entire 150,000 man mechanized army (Wikipedia doubles that for the total committed) and with US air support, including early use of smart bombs which I remember hearing about as it happened, we stomped it flat. 40,000 men considered themselves to be lucky to make it back to the north (and that agrees well enough with Wikipedia’s figures). OK, from later memory Wikipedia etc. says the north did make some long term damaging territorial gains.

    The second time they tried that Watergate had weakened Nixon et. al. so much the Democratic Congress, which was by then firmly on the side of International Communism, denied the south the ammunition they needed to fight, plus of course no US air support. Like, each infantryman had less than a hundred rounds and only one grenade.

    BUT! outfitting the north with the equipment for three entire mechanized armies, the first was used up piecemeal before 1972, was a big factor in bankrupting the Evil Empire.

    See also the recent revisionist reading of the wealth they put into their Strategic Rocket Forces, which a lot of us read as aiming for a first strike capability, more being due to internal power plays and the usual misallocation of resources that come from them.

    Going back to Jerry Pournelle, he said that around 1970 the Soviets started putting a lot of SS-9s on soft launching pads which he another others interpreted as an imminent first strike danger (back then he was employed to do this sort of analysis). But that also fits very well with the revisionist take, especially since that version was a somewhat limited instrument, three MRV but not MIRV warheads, unlike its SS-18 successor aptly code named Satan with ten or more MIRV warheads.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @That Would Be Telling


    Tet Offensive
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vDgBNFpQEs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1vJqTN-qVI
    , @J.Ross
    @That Would Be Telling

    Are you aware that Geoff Shepard has proven that Watergate was fake and gay?
    https://www.amazon.com/Nixon-Conspiracy-Watergate-Remove-President/dp/1642937150

  390. Oy, Oppenheimer was a mensch and the way they picked on that man was tragic. Treason schmeason. He was supposed to be loyal to a country that allowed exclusivity in private country clubs? OY!

  391. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    Feynman's accent was OK.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Judge for yourself:

    As a non-native English speaker the subtleties of accents may be lost on you. When I hear Brits speaking I can spot a posh accent and a Cockney accent but in between is all sort of a blur. Native Brits can make many more subtle regional and class distinctions.

  392. @That Would Be Telling
    @nebulafox


    And by the time the war became a conventional conflict (again) in the early 1970s, the American government was committed to withdrawal, and the public-while divided on the specifics-was going to tolerate nothing less due to the lies about the conflict they were fed.
     
    True, and one interpretation of Nixon's final electoral victories, then the Silent Coup used against him as one book title that focuses on James Dean's role puts it, is that we hired a Quaker to end the war.

    But there's a few things worth pointing out about the early to mid-1970s phases of the Vietnam War; most of this is my memory of Jerry Pournelle's take:

    "Vietnamization" worked (and I'm reading a book right now about the Tet Offensive battle for Hue where the ARVN also did pretty well; note that link is to the legit free PDF version):

    In the 1972 Easter Offensive the north committed an entire 150,000 man mechanized army (Wikipedia doubles that for the total committed) and with US air support, including early use of smart bombs which I remember hearing about as it happened, we stomped it flat. 40,000 men considered themselves to be lucky to make it back to the north (and that agrees well enough with Wikipedia's figures). OK, from later memory Wikipedia etc. says the north did make some long term damaging territorial gains.

    The second time they tried that Watergate had weakened Nixon et. al. so much the Democratic Congress, which was by then firmly on the side of International Communism, denied the south the ammunition they needed to fight, plus of course no US air support. Like, each infantryman had less than a hundred rounds and only one grenade.

    BUT! outfitting the north with the equipment for three entire mechanized armies, the first was used up piecemeal before 1972, was a big factor in bankrupting the Evil Empire.

    See also the recent revisionist reading of the wealth they put into their Strategic Rocket Forces, which a lot of us read as aiming for a first strike capability, more being due to internal power plays and the usual misallocation of resources that come from them.

    Going back to Jerry Pournelle, he said that around 1970 the Soviets started putting a lot of SS-9s on soft launching pads which he another others interpreted as an imminent first strike danger (back then he was employed to do this sort of analysis). But that also fits very well with the revisionist take, especially since that version was a somewhat limited instrument, three MRV but not MIRV warheads, unlike its SS-18 successor aptly code named Satan with ten or more MIRV warheads.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @J.Ross

    Tet Offensive

  393. @J.Ross
    @Colin Wright

    It is, and it will in all likelihood get cut. Russia is currently determining the location of the cut with the involuntary cooperation of Kiev.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    It is, and it will in all likelihood get cut. Russia is currently determining the location of the cut with the involuntary cooperation of Kiev.

    …while we strive to prevent any resolution.

  394. @YetAnotherAnon
    @nebulafox

    I had a longish chat a few days back with a Romanian guy working over here. He detests the Ukrainians and wants Russia to take the whole place so that Romania can get Bessarabia back, which in his eyes was stolen by Ukraine. I neither agreed nor disagreed.

    It was his vehemence that struck me, and makes me realise yet again

    a) how deep the animosities are in the Bloodlands.
    b) how wise we would be to stay out

    I wonder if Hungarians feel the same about what used to be called sub-Carpathian Ruthenia?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Frau Katze

    Bessarabia (aka Moldova) wasn’t stolen by Ukrainians. It’s a sovereign state. Favoring merger with Roumania is a minority viewpoint there. (I’ve been told by self-identified Roumanians that merger with Moldova is an idea regarded with some reserve in Roumania because of Moldova’s lousy economy).

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Art Deco

    https://www.peripheralhistories.co.uk/post/bessarabia-is-romania

  395. HA says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @HA

    Look, you can write as many words as you want, it won't change anything. Everyone now understands that Ukraine can't win this war and that it will only get worse for them as time goes on. Ukraine is basically Germany in late 1943 or early 1944.

    Even if they could come up with the men, we can't supply them with enough military equipment. Our own govt has acknowledged this. The Pentagon has already moved on and is working on how to get back our industrial capacity for future wars. But that's years and years down the road. Sorry Ukraine.

    Biden is just praying that Ukraine can hold it together until the election. That's all that's left.

    I'm shocked the Jew crew is this out of touch. There's nothing left to argue about here. It's over.

    Replies: @HA

    “Everyone now understands that Ukraine can’t win this war and that it will only get worse for them as time goes on.”

    No, not everyone — that’s you and the fanboys who ever and always have been saying that Russia can only advance, no matter how painfully slow and how many heroic retreats to the rear they’ve suffered. No one who isn’t already a gullible dupe or stooge with regard to Russian troll memes understands anything of the sort.

    And even if what you said were true, it wouldn’t be particularly relevant, given that it omits the fact that things are only going to get worse for the Russians, too. Those boats, those planes, and those tanks — the West is still crunching them out. It seems like forever, but F-16 will eventually make it to the Ukrainians. I suspect that 300bn euros of frozen Russian assets will also start to dribble to them. Whereas the Russians keep refurbishing museum pieces and calling them tanks, but there’s a finite number of those.

    “we can’t supply them with enough military equipment.”

    They seem to be able to crunch out a fair number of drones judging from all the downed boats and planes and the like. And again, the Russians are scrambling to get North Korean equipment, so evidently they don’t have enough either.

    Fabian strategies has worked before. With enough bombed airfields and gas depots, the Russians are going to have a harder and harder time keeping this going. The electricity grid is still operating in Ukraine. People are still moving about even in places not far from the front lines like Odessa. Russia doesn’t have the bombs it needs for the sustained campaign it hoped everyone would believe it was capable of back when they first tried that.

    I get it — everything always works in Russia’s favor according to the fanboys. The winter freeze will surely bring that huge Russian offensive because it makes the ground easy to traverse, but somehow, that never applies to the Ukrainians. The mud will only muck up the Ukrainian equipment, not the Russians. And according to the likes of Douglas Macgregor, in another two weeks, the Ukrainians will collapse, and this time, they really mean it!

    No, stop kidding yourself. If anything, the troll alerts about how the Ukrainians are just days away from collapse have reduced in quantity over the past few months.

    • Agree: Art Deco
    • Replies: @anonymous
    @HA

    Graham Seibert, an American who lives in Kiev said in his post today at his Substack:

    "Although the war news is not terribly positive, the Russians have not rocketed Kyiv for about three weeks now. We have gone from predictable, daily air raid alerts to every two or three days."

    Day-to-day family life in Kiev, as Graham lives it, seem remarkably normal and in many ways, despite the war, one could imagine better than life in the West, at least as far as the curse of DIE goes. If you are not familiar with his blog and have an interest in what it's like to live in a war zone, a read through his past posts will be rewarding.

    Incidentally, he was interviewed positively by Linh Dinh, who includes the interview in one of his recent books. Dinh later turned on Seibert most viciously because Seibert was loyal to the country of his wife and children and not Russia. Dinh is a big fan of Russia.

    His Substack: https://grahamseibert.substack.com

    , @HA
    @HA

    "And according to the likes of Douglas Macgregor, in another two weeks, the Ukrainians will collapse, and this time, he really means it!"

    And speaking of Macgregor, it turns out that actually, Ukraine is looking to outlast even the good ol' USA

    https://twitter.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1768255447004262798

  396. HA says:
    @Mr Mox
    @HA

    1112 Words - 6404 Characters

    The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

    Replies: @HA

    “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

    Yeah, I get it. Putin stooges can’t really handle anything more than what can be fitted to the front of a red baseball cap. It’s all their little minds can handle.

    As the Russians themselves have admitted, their stateside fanboys (at least the ones who go for Trump) are “not very smart”, “rednecks”, and “primitive people” who you have to talk to with “cliches and dumb slogans.”

    Don’t worry — maybe I’ll try and dumb it down for you next time, little guy. Just wait your turn.

  397. @That Would Be Telling
    @nebulafox


    And by the time the war became a conventional conflict (again) in the early 1970s, the American government was committed to withdrawal, and the public-while divided on the specifics-was going to tolerate nothing less due to the lies about the conflict they were fed.
     
    True, and one interpretation of Nixon's final electoral victories, then the Silent Coup used against him as one book title that focuses on James Dean's role puts it, is that we hired a Quaker to end the war.

    But there's a few things worth pointing out about the early to mid-1970s phases of the Vietnam War; most of this is my memory of Jerry Pournelle's take:

    "Vietnamization" worked (and I'm reading a book right now about the Tet Offensive battle for Hue where the ARVN also did pretty well; note that link is to the legit free PDF version):

    In the 1972 Easter Offensive the north committed an entire 150,000 man mechanized army (Wikipedia doubles that for the total committed) and with US air support, including early use of smart bombs which I remember hearing about as it happened, we stomped it flat. 40,000 men considered themselves to be lucky to make it back to the north (and that agrees well enough with Wikipedia's figures). OK, from later memory Wikipedia etc. says the north did make some long term damaging territorial gains.

    The second time they tried that Watergate had weakened Nixon et. al. so much the Democratic Congress, which was by then firmly on the side of International Communism, denied the south the ammunition they needed to fight, plus of course no US air support. Like, each infantryman had less than a hundred rounds and only one grenade.

    BUT! outfitting the north with the equipment for three entire mechanized armies, the first was used up piecemeal before 1972, was a big factor in bankrupting the Evil Empire.

    See also the recent revisionist reading of the wealth they put into their Strategic Rocket Forces, which a lot of us read as aiming for a first strike capability, more being due to internal power plays and the usual misallocation of resources that come from them.

    Going back to Jerry Pournelle, he said that around 1970 the Soviets started putting a lot of SS-9s on soft launching pads which he another others interpreted as an imminent first strike danger (back then he was employed to do this sort of analysis). But that also fits very well with the revisionist take, especially since that version was a somewhat limited instrument, three MRV but not MIRV warheads, unlike its SS-18 successor aptly code named Satan with ten or more MIRV warheads.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @J.Ross

    Are you aware that Geoff Shepard has proven that Watergate was fake and gay?

  398. @BB753
    @J.Ross

    Ultimately, every US sponsored regime change has failed. You just can't go around changing regimes you don't agree with. The alternative is diplomacy and economic cooperation, which is where China and Russia have beaten America.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jack D

    I think I found the issue years ago, when I pondered why Hizbullah was so very good, but whoever we sponsor turns out to be a moron: we first look for controllable morons and then hope that US technology and CIA or Special Operations handlers will be able to get them to the finish line, whereas Iran and Russia looks for talent and ensures loyalty through other means.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @J.Ross

    More importantly, Iran was willing to invest a lot of time and energy into southern Lebanon. That's what it takes to do this stuff. Hezbollah isn't just an army-it is a social system. Jobs, health care, schools, you name it.

    This is just not a game that plays to American strengths.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

  399. @Ian Smith
    @Guest007

    If they wanted to give it to a deserving ww2 movie, then Dunkirk would have been a better choice.

    Replies: @Guest007

    Very few critics would consider Dunkirk better than Oppenheimer consider the story line issues. On Rotten Tomatoes, Dunkirk has an 81% audience score whereas Oppenheimer has a 91% score.

  400. @Patrick McNally
    @J.Ross

    It was Hitler's politics which drove Fuchs into joining the Communist Party of Germany (KPD).

    -----
    At Leipzig University, Fuchs joined the student branch of the Social Democratic Party, the SPD, and also the Reichsbanner, an SPD paramilitary organisation formed in opposition to the Nazis' SA, the Brownshirts... He passed out leaflets for the SPD, and spoke at student meetings...

    He talked to Communist students, and found that two things set him against the Communists. One was that these students would follow the party line strictly and uncritically, even though they might disagree with it privately on some points. The other was that while the Communist Party was calling for united action with the Social Democrats, it was at the same time denouncing the Social Democratic leaders in violent terms.
    -----
    -- Norman Moss, Klaus Fuchs: The Man Who Stole the Atom Bomb, p. 6.

    At this point in 1930-1, there was nothing in Fuchs' record to indicate that he would ever switch from the SPD to the KPD. His political shifts started in 1932 over the issue of how to deal with Hitler.

    -----
    The Fuchs family moved to North Germany... Fuchs himself entered Kiel University.

    There, he joined a student organisation which included members of both SPD and the Communist Party, and he was made Chairman. They approached Nazi students and tried to persuade them to change their ideas... The Nazi student organisation at the University was campaigning for lower fees. Fuchs decided to take them at their word, and he proposed that the two groups organise jointly a student strike for reduced fees...

    He broke with the SPD over the party's policy in the 1932 Presidential election. The Social Democrats supported the old President, General von Hindenburg, as the alternative to Hitler, who was a rival candidate... When the Communist Party ran its leader ... Fuchs offered to speak for him, and he was expelled from the SPD. Hindenburg won the election.

    Shortly after this, the Conservative Chancellor, Franz von Papen, dismissed the elected Social Democratic Government of Prussia, the largest German state, sending in police to drag the members out of their offices. Fuchs went to the Communist Party headquarters and found old friends from the SPD Reichsbanner there, ready to take to the streets to fight for Social Democracy in Prussia, all of them turning to the party that seemed to be taking the most active role in resistance to the Right. But the Prussian Social Democrats limited their resistance to an appeal to Germany's Supreme Court.

    Fuchs joined the Communist Party, accepting now the need for party discipline in the fight against Nazism. His brother Gerhardt and his sisters Elizabeth and Kristel joined in the same year. They all discussed their reasons with their father. He disagreed with their decision, but he was not entirely unsympathetic, for he was also disappointed in the Social Democratic leaders' attitude to the Nazi threat.
    -----
    -- Ibid, pp. 7-9.

    It's clear that if there had not been the issue of Hitler rising to power, then Fuchs would simply have gone on to become a Social Democrat. The indecisiveness of the SPD in the face of this was what motivated Fuchs to set aside his original rejection of the KPD.

    Replies: @Brás Cubas

    None of that sheds any light on why he would pass secrets to the Soviet Union, since the U.S. was fighting against Germany as well. He seems to have been more of a fanatical communist than one would gather from your account. Which would be a good thing if true.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
    @Brás Cubas

    At the time when he joined the KPD, the US was not fighting Germany. The more likely calculation then was that conflict between Hitler and the USSR would occur, but there was no reason to expect the US to involve itself. If you jump all the way to 1945, then, sure, by that time, he had really committed himself to loyalty to the USSR. If there had been no Hitler in 1932, he would have remained a Social Democrat.

  401. I’m going to side with the Radical Black Activist Mob on this one-

    1) Oppenheimer should be re-made, immediately, (sorry, but I didn’t think it was that impressive, just ok) and feature the whole team of nuclear physicists as overweight black women.
    2) Move the story to the deep south, so that in-between scenes of them developing the bomb, we can see them kept out of restaurants, or sitting on the back of the bus while riding to work.
    3) Give them all modern “Shaniqua” names too.
    4) Leave out the Commie Hunting Red Scare parts, and instead, make it about these same black women trying to break the color barrier in major league baseball, or something… maybe they can also be Tuskegee Airmen!
    5) Have multiple scenes of their co-workers asking to touch their hair and stuff.
    6) It would be wrong to erase the Jews from this story completely, so these nappy headed hoes can still have some jew bosses, but have Mel Gibson cast them, i.e. more along the lines of The Passion of the Christ, huge noses, bushy eyebrows, super “thrifty”, maybe trying to bed these fat negresses, (think Woody Allen), and show them always stiffing the ladies with lunch tabs and the like.
    7) Can we work in a cameo of Emit Till? MLK? Al Jolson?

    Yep, a total re-make is in order, and maybe get Spike Lee to direct it!

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Dr. Rock


    Oppenheimer should be re-made, immediately, (sorry, but I didn’t think it was that impressive, just ok) and feature the whole team of nuclear physicists as overweight black women.
     
    Some of them should be lesbians plus a few trans women would be good.
    , @Jack D
    @Dr. Rock

    You could redo it as a Broadway musical (and then a movie version). You would get Lin-Manuel Miranda to write it. Academy Award winning actress Da'vine Joy Randolph could play Oppenheimer.


    https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-560w,f_avif,q_auto:eco,dpr_2/rockcms/2024-03/240310-davine-joy-randolph-ew-900p-af9f85.jpg

    When Bohr (Oprah Winfrey) asks Oppenheimer if he can hear the music, Oppy breaks into song.

  402. @Art Deco
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Bessarabia (aka Moldova) wasn't stolen by Ukrainians. It's a sovereign state. Favoring merger with Roumania is a minority viewpoint there. (I've been told by self-identified Roumanians that merger with Moldova is an idea regarded with some reserve in Roumania because of Moldova's lousy economy).

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  403. @YetAnotherAnon
    @nebulafox

    I had a longish chat a few days back with a Romanian guy working over here. He detests the Ukrainians and wants Russia to take the whole place so that Romania can get Bessarabia back, which in his eyes was stolen by Ukraine. I neither agreed nor disagreed.

    It was his vehemence that struck me, and makes me realise yet again

    a) how deep the animosities are in the Bloodlands.
    b) how wise we would be to stay out

    I wonder if Hungarians feel the same about what used to be called sub-Carpathian Ruthenia?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Frau Katze

    Romania got a good-sized chunk of Hungary after WW1–there are about 1 million Hungarians in the country—so maybe they should curb their ambition for lost lands and be happy with what they’ve got.

    • Agree: HA
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Frau Katze

    Moldova has a Russia and Ukrainian minority, but its population is modally Roumanian and it was part of Roumania between the wars. The portion of the old Kingdom of Hungary allocated to inter-war Roumania was also largely Roumanian except for the segment called Szekely Land. You could have allocated Szekely Land to Hungary, but it would have been an exclave as it is nowhere near the border.

  404. @BB753
    @J.Ross

    Ultimately, every US sponsored regime change has failed. You just can't go around changing regimes you don't agree with. The alternative is diplomacy and economic cooperation, which is where China and Russia have beaten America.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Jack D

    Ultimately, every US sponsored regime change has failed.

    This is false. Germany, Japan, Panama, Grenada, etc. We’ve done plenty of successful regime changes. Regime change might be wrong or immoral or evil or something but you can’t say that it always fails. The whole reason great (and lesser) powers try it is because it has a good chance of success. If it ALWAYS failed then it would be insanity to spend blood and treasure on it, but it doesn’t.

    You just can’t go around changing regimes you don’t agree with. The alternative is diplomacy and economic cooperation, which is where China and Russia have beaten America.

    Diplomacy and economic cooperation like Russia tried in Ukraine? Like China used in Tibet and Korea? Please don’t make me laugh.

    It turns out that you CAN go around changing regimes you don’t agree with, if you can get away with it.

    • Agree: Art Deco
    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @BB753
    @Jack D

    "If it ALWAYS failed then it would be insanity to spend blood and treasure on it, but it doesn’t."

    A couple or so of failures can be very costly. Do you know many trillions we've spent on Afghanistan, Irak and Ukraine?

    "Diplomacy and economic cooperation like Russia tried in Ukraine? Like China used in Tibet and Korea? Please don’t make me laugh."

    War and regime change aren't the default solution. They're the last resort. Perhaps you're not aware of the diplomatic and economical success of BRICs? Of China's growing investments worldwide?

    Replies: @Jack D

  405. anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:
    @HA
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    "Everyone now understands that Ukraine can’t win this war and that it will only get worse for them as time goes on."

    No, not everyone -- that's you and the fanboys who ever and always have been saying that Russia can only advance, no matter how painfully slow and how many heroic retreats to the rear they've suffered. No one who isn't already a gullible dupe or stooge with regard to Russian troll memes understands anything of the sort.

    And even if what you said were true, it wouldn't be particularly relevant, given that it omits the fact that things are only going to get worse for the Russians, too. Those boats, those planes, and those tanks -- the West is still crunching them out. It seems like forever, but F-16 will eventually make it to the Ukrainians. I suspect that 300bn euros of frozen Russian assets will also start to dribble to them. Whereas the Russians keep refurbishing museum pieces and calling them tanks, but there's a finite number of those.

    "we can’t supply them with enough military equipment."

    They seem to be able to crunch out a fair number of drones judging from all the downed boats and planes and the like. And again, the Russians are scrambling to get North Korean equipment, so evidently they don't have enough either.

    Fabian strategies has worked before. With enough bombed airfields and gas depots, the Russians are going to have a harder and harder time keeping this going. The electricity grid is still operating in Ukraine. People are still moving about even in places not far from the front lines like Odessa. Russia doesn't have the bombs it needs for the sustained campaign it hoped everyone would believe it was capable of back when they first tried that.

    I get it -- everything always works in Russia's favor according to the fanboys. The winter freeze will surely bring that huge Russian offensive because it makes the ground easy to traverse, but somehow, that never applies to the Ukrainians. The mud will only muck up the Ukrainian equipment, not the Russians. And according to the likes of Douglas Macgregor, in another two weeks, the Ukrainians will collapse, and this time, they really mean it!

    No, stop kidding yourself. If anything, the troll alerts about how the Ukrainians are just days away from collapse have reduced in quantity over the past few months.

    Replies: @anonymous, @HA

    Graham Seibert, an American who lives in Kiev said in his post today at his Substack:

    “Although the war news is not terribly positive, the Russians have not rocketed Kyiv for about three weeks now. We have gone from predictable, daily air raid alerts to every two or three days.”

    Day-to-day family life in Kiev, as Graham lives it, seem remarkably normal and in many ways, despite the war, one could imagine better than life in the West, at least as far as the curse of DIE goes. If you are not familiar with his blog and have an interest in what it’s like to live in a war zone, a read through his past posts will be rewarding.

    Incidentally, he was interviewed positively by Linh Dinh, who includes the interview in one of his recent books. Dinh later turned on Seibert most viciously because Seibert was loyal to the country of his wife and children and not Russia. Dinh is a big fan of Russia.

    His Substack: https://grahamseibert.substack.com

    • Thanks: HA
  406. He was a dirty commie, so he had that going for him.

  407. @J.Ross
    @BB753

    I think I found the issue years ago, when I pondered why Hizbullah was so very good, but whoever we sponsor turns out to be a moron: we first look for controllable morons and then hope that US technology and CIA or Special Operations handlers will be able to get them to the finish line, whereas Iran and Russia looks for talent and ensures loyalty through other means.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    More importantly, Iran was willing to invest a lot of time and energy into southern Lebanon. That’s what it takes to do this stuff. Hezbollah isn’t just an army-it is a social system. Jobs, health care, schools, you name it.

    This is just not a game that plays to American strengths.

    • Agree: J.Ross
    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @nebulafox


    Hezbollah isn’t just an army-it is a social system. Jobs, health care, schools, you name it.

    This is just not a game that plays to American strengths.
     
    It doesn’t play to American strength because Islamist loons bitterly resent the non-Islamic America.

    If you think Hezbollah will help anyone other than a Shiite Muslim you’re very wrong.

    Even with their “social system” it’s not a place I’d choose even if I was a Shiite Muslim. It wouldn’t surprise me to find a few crossing the American southern border.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  408. @Brás Cubas
    @Patrick McNally

    None of that sheds any light on why he would pass secrets to the Soviet Union, since the U.S. was fighting against Germany as well. He seems to have been more of a fanatical communist than one would gather from your account. Which would be a good thing if true.

    Replies: @Patrick McNally

    At the time when he joined the KPD, the US was not fighting Germany. The more likely calculation then was that conflict between Hitler and the USSR would occur, but there was no reason to expect the US to involve itself. If you jump all the way to 1945, then, sure, by that time, he had really committed himself to loyalty to the USSR. If there had been no Hitler in 1932, he would have remained a Social Democrat.

    • Thanks: Brás Cubas
  409. @Jack D
    @BB753


    Ultimately, every US sponsored regime change has failed.
     
    This is false. Germany, Japan, Panama, Grenada, etc. We've done plenty of successful regime changes. Regime change might be wrong or immoral or evil or something but you can't say that it always fails. The whole reason great (and lesser) powers try it is because it has a good chance of success. If it ALWAYS failed then it would be insanity to spend blood and treasure on it, but it doesn't.

    You just can’t go around changing regimes you don’t agree with. The alternative is diplomacy and economic cooperation, which is where China and Russia have beaten America.
     
    Diplomacy and economic cooperation like Russia tried in Ukraine? Like China used in Tibet and Korea? Please don't make me laugh.

    It turns out that you CAN go around changing regimes you don’t agree with, if you can get away with it.

    Replies: @BB753

    “If it ALWAYS failed then it would be insanity to spend blood and treasure on it, but it doesn’t.”

    A couple or so of failures can be very costly. Do you know many trillions we’ve spent on Afghanistan, Irak and Ukraine?

    “Diplomacy and economic cooperation like Russia tried in Ukraine? Like China used in Tibet and Korea? Please don’t make me laugh.”

    War and regime change aren’t the default solution. They’re the last resort. Perhaps you’re not aware of the diplomatic and economical success of BRICs? Of China’s growing investments worldwide?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @BB753


    Perhaps you’re not aware of the diplomatic and economical success of BRICs? Of China’s growing investments worldwide?
     
    Are you some kind of paid Chinese troll? Wherever the Chinese invest, people end up hating them:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-belt-road-plans-losing-momentum-opposition-debt-mount-study-2021-09-29/

    As clumsy as American foreign policy sometimes is, we're Fred Astaire compared to China. They do nothing but step on toes. The West was a great market for them but Xi has pissed everyone off so much that the West is pushing them out of their economy and so now they have to partner with shitty countries like Russia. Another name for BRICS is the Coalition of the Shitty.

    Replies: @BB753

  410. @prosa123
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Because the British Empire partook in so many victories in the Pacific theatre.
    Oh wait, it suffered its greatest defeat in history at Singapore to a Japanese force half its size, and had to be rescued by the Chinese at Burma


    Legend holds that the British guns defending Singapore proved useless against the Japanese invasion because they were aimed out to sea but the invasion came from the land side. In reality, the guns could be swiveled to face the land, and some of them were, but they were relatively inaccurate large guns that were effective against large ships but not against infantry assaults.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Furthermore Japan sank two of Britain’s heaviest dreadnoughts with only land-based bombers.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_Prince_of_Wales_and_Repulse

    Months previous Britain sank the German capital ship, but required an entire fleet

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_battle_of_Bismarck

    And this all took place concurrent with Pearl Harbor, which most Americans only know about. Because if you reveal that Japan was surrounded by Western and Russian colonies, you might think it was acting on self-defense.

    Japan’s miscalculation was that America would have intervened to defend the colonies of the European imperialists, if those were the only targets. This was not the case.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    If you look at a map of Europe, England was surrounded by continental powers in the same way that Japan was surrounded by European influence, but England didn't start a war with them. Starting a pre-emptive war because you perceive you are surrounded by enemies is not "self-defense" despite what Russia says in Ukraine. If the enemy troops are massing on your border and they are about to attack (e.g. Israel in 1967) then it's not wrong to strike first but no one had any plans to invade Japan before they started the war.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

  411. @Colin Wright
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    British soldiers congratulating Imperial Japanese troops on their recent victory over the Chinese Kuomintang. Shanghai International Settlement, China, 22 November 1937.
     
    I'd say that by 1937, any such displays of enthusiasm were less than sincere. The marriage was long over; it was only three weeks after that photo was taken that Japanese artillery opened fire on HMS Ladybird.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    What were British and American gunboats doing there?

    How about if the Chinese had a riverine fleet in the Hudson like Americans did?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangtze_Patrol

  412. @Colin Wright
    @Jack D


    'I kid. The real spy at Los Alamos was Fuchs who was a Lutheran Aryan. It’s always the one you suspect the least. Aldrich Ames. Robert Hanssen. Whitaker Chambers. Kim Philby. Real spies don’t attend Communist Party meetings that are infiltrated by the FBI.'
     
    JackD reveals: not all spies have been Jews.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Wielgus, @res, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    A British captain at Singapore spied for Japan, probably because he was an Irish republican.

    Patrick Stanley Vaughan Heenan (29 July 1910 – 13 February 1942) was a captain in the British Indian Army who was supposedly convicted of treason, after spying for Japan during the Battle of Malaya of World War II.[1][2]

    Heenan was executed by his wardens while in custody during the Battle of Singapore. With the defeat of the British imminent, Heenan had mocked the guards, saying he would soon be free, while they would be the prisoners. In response, British military police shot him and dumped his body into the harbour.[3]

    According to Heenan’s biographer, Peter Elphick, these events were suppressed by British Commonwealth military censors.[1]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Stanley_Vaughan_Heenan

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    With the defeat of the British imminent, Heenan had mocked the guards, saying he would soon be free, while they would be the prisoners. In response, British military police shot him and dumped his body into the harbour.
     
    The British are usually pretty patient, even with their enemies, but it doesn't pay to stretch your luck with them. If you piss them off badly enough, they are not nice anymore.

    Americans are that way too, which is something that all the clowns who are testing America's patience should take into account.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  413. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Erik L


    4. Take for granted all the great contributions and/or assume that in the absence of Jews, the gentiles would have gotten around to it eventually.
     
    Jews aside, it is one of those hypothetical questions that are basically meaningless.

    Without Newton, would modern science eventually be invented by someone else?
    I doubt it.
    Even such a genius like Leibniz couldn't comprehend it: https://faculty.humanities.uci.edu/bjbecker/RevoltingIdeas/leibniz.html


    Einstein's relativity was, despite absurd claims circulating in popular culture, immediately recognized & accepted by all top physicists in the world.

    Not so with Newton's physics.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Erik L

    From that article I gather that Newton was focused on describing collisions with momentum while Leibniz thought energy was the key concept. Newton was right in the case of collision predictions between pool balls but energy is also a useful concept in classical mechanics. For example (I might be wrong because it’s been decades since I did mechanics) to predict what happens when the pool ball bounces off an elastic bumper you need to know something about the energy absorbed by the compression of the bumper to predict the path after it collides.

  414. @Frau Katze
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Romania got a good-sized chunk of Hungary after WW1–there are about 1 million Hungarians in the country—so maybe they should curb their ambition for lost lands and be happy with what they’ve got.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Moldova has a Russia and Ukrainian minority, but its population is modally Roumanian and it was part of Roumania between the wars. The portion of the old Kingdom of Hungary allocated to inter-war Roumania was also largely Roumanian except for the segment called Szekely Land. You could have allocated Szekely Land to Hungary, but it would have been an exclave as it is nowhere near the border.

    • Thanks: Frau Katze
  415. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @prosa123

    Furthermore Japan sank two of Britain's heaviest dreadnoughts with only land-based bombers.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_Prince_of_Wales_and_Repulse

    Months previous Britain sank the German capital ship, but required an entire fleet

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_battle_of_Bismarck

    And this all took place concurrent with Pearl Harbor, which most Americans only know about. Because if you reveal that Japan was surrounded by Western and Russian colonies, you might think it was acting on self-defense.

    https://i.postimg.cc/pr5KmdFG/GBY4giba-MAAEQ0y.jpg

    Japan's miscalculation was that America would have intervened to defend the colonies of the European imperialists, if those were the only targets. This was not the case.

    Replies: @Jack D

    If you look at a map of Europe, England was surrounded by continental powers in the same way that Japan was surrounded by European influence, but England didn’t start a war with them. Starting a pre-emptive war because you perceive you are surrounded by enemies is not “self-defense” despite what Russia says in Ukraine. If the enemy troops are massing on your border and they are about to attack (e.g. Israel in 1967) then it’s not wrong to strike first but no one had any plans to invade Japan before they started the war.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack D

    "no one had any plans to invade Japan before they started the war"

    You're leaving out a lot of history there. Japan was already in a war with China, and had been for years. Roosevelt's oil embargo was at minimum an unfriendly act, but arguably a causus belli.

    Japan had no oil of her own, it nearly all came from the USA, as did their scrap iron and their copper. These were all stopped by the US in 1940, as were Japanese ships in the Panama canal.

    The US oil embargo and freezing of Japanese assets in 1941 put the tin lid on it.

    As wiki, no pro-Japan site, put it:

    "The complete U.S. oil embargo reduced the Japanese options to two: seize Southeast Asia before its existing stocks of strategic materials were depleted or submission to American demands."


    Now you could argue that a nation with no resources except its hard-working and intelligent population is on a hiding to nothing trying to fight a nation with both that AND a shedload of resources. I'd agree with you.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Jack D

    British Army burnt down Washington in 1814, was the then nascent United States a threat to invade Britain?

    Japan attacked Russia pre-emptively in 1904, did US and UK have a problem with it? No. Russia already invaded Manchuria and wanted Korea next.

    Britain was in fact a treaty-bound to join if a third-power (i.e. France or Germany) entered on Russia's side

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Japanese_Alliance

    Lesser known is the Chinese attacked the Japanese pre-emptively in 1937. Chiang wanted to escalate the war in front the Shanghai International Settlement, to rally British and American support.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War#Battle_of_Shanghai

    It wasn't like later Chinese and Anglo historians who made it sound like that Japan FOR NO REASON AT ALL invaded China.

    I'm sure you've been to the Bund where the architecture is strikingly European.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Shanghai_1928_Bund_Cenotaph.jpeg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_International_Settlement

  416. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Colin Wright

    A British captain at Singapore spied for Japan, probably because he was an Irish republican.


    Patrick Stanley Vaughan Heenan (29 July 1910 – 13 February 1942) was a captain in the British Indian Army who was supposedly convicted of treason, after spying for Japan during the Battle of Malaya of World War II.[1][2]

    Heenan was executed by his wardens while in custody during the Battle of Singapore. With the defeat of the British imminent, Heenan had mocked the guards, saying he would soon be free, while they would be the prisoners. In response, British military police shot him and dumped his body into the harbour.[3]

    According to Heenan's biographer, Peter Elphick, these events were suppressed by British Commonwealth military censors.[1]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Stanley_Vaughan_Heenan

    Replies: @Jack D

    With the defeat of the British imminent, Heenan had mocked the guards, saying he would soon be free, while they would be the prisoners. In response, British military police shot him and dumped his body into the harbour.

    The British are usually pretty patient, even with their enemies, but it doesn’t pay to stretch your luck with them. If you piss them off badly enough, they are not nice anymore.

    Americans are that way too, which is something that all the clowns who are testing America’s patience should take into account.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jack D


    If you piss them off badly enough, they are not nice anymore.

    Americans are that way too, which is something that all the clowns who are testing America’s patience should take into account.
     
    Our patience has its limits!
  417. @res
    @YetAnotherAnon


    You can get a 50mp camera in a £120 phone these days. Millions are sold. But a 50mp sensor in a mirrorless camera with a decent zoom lens costs maybe 10 times that. Not so many people buy them.
     
    Worth noting that the sensor sizes are very different. Though phone sensors are getting larger. Megapixels is far from the only spec which matters (as much as the phone camera makers would have you think otherwise).
    https://www.eoshd.com/news/smartphones-and-their-growing-threat-to-mirrorless-cameras-2022-edition/

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @YetAnotherAnon

    The Oppo Find X7 has four 50mp sensors, two with optical zooms. Only available in China atm.

    However the camera region now noticeably sticks out from the rest of the phone.

    https://www.wired.com/review/oppo-find-x7-ultra/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periscope_lens

    • Replies: @res
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Thanks. I think you left out an important part though. The sensor sizes. From that review. Emphasis mine.


    The main lens boasts a 1-inch Sony LYT-900 sensor, an f/1.8 aperture, 23-mm focal length, and optical image stabilization (OIS). The ultrawide is packing a Sony LYT-600 sensor, an f/2.0 aperture and a 14-mm focal length, and can focus on subjects as close as 4 centimeters (1.6 inches).

    For zooming, there are two periscope lenses. The first offers 3X optical zoom, and has a 1/1.56-inch Sony IMX890 sensor, an f/2.6 aperture, OIS, and a 65-mm focal length. The second offers 6X optical zoom and packs a 1/2.51-inch Sony IMX858 sensor, an f/4.3 aperture, equivalent to 135-mm focal length, and OIS.
     
    Looking at that I am guessing the zoom optics impose limits on sensor size?

    Referring back to the link I gave earlier we can see that 1 inch sensor is huge for a phone. Though still about a third (linear dimensions) smaller than micro four thirds.
    https://www.eoshd.com/news/smartphones-and-their-growing-threat-to-mirrorless-cameras-2022-edition/

    Here are details for the Sony LYT sensors. The LYT-600 is 1/1.953 (the review omitted that detail). They quote the LYT-900 as 1/0.98.
    https://www.sony-semicon.com/en/info/2023/2023061501.html

    LYT-900 also found in Xiaomi 14 Ultra.
    https://medium.com/@muhammad.ather/sony-lyt-900-sensor-to-power-oppo-find-x7-pro-xiaomi-14-ultra-8bce615c7941

    This page has a graphic which appears to show the layouts for the zoom lenses.
    https://www.gsmarena.com/oppo_confirms_the_1inch_sony_lyt900_sensor_for_a_find_x7-news-60978.php

    https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/news/23/12/oppo-findx7-pro-schematic/-1200/gsmarena_000.jpg
  418. @Jack D
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    If you look at a map of Europe, England was surrounded by continental powers in the same way that Japan was surrounded by European influence, but England didn't start a war with them. Starting a pre-emptive war because you perceive you are surrounded by enemies is not "self-defense" despite what Russia says in Ukraine. If the enemy troops are massing on your border and they are about to attack (e.g. Israel in 1967) then it's not wrong to strike first but no one had any plans to invade Japan before they started the war.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    “no one had any plans to invade Japan before they started the war”

    You’re leaving out a lot of history there. Japan was already in a war with China, and had been for years. Roosevelt’s oil embargo was at minimum an unfriendly act, but arguably a causus belli.

    Japan had no oil of her own, it nearly all came from the USA, as did their scrap iron and their copper. These were all stopped by the US in 1940, as were Japanese ships in the Panama canal.

    The US oil embargo and freezing of Japanese assets in 1941 put the tin lid on it.

    As wiki, no pro-Japan site, put it:

    “The complete U.S. oil embargo reduced the Japanese options to two: seize Southeast Asia before its existing stocks of strategic materials were depleted or submission to American demands.”

    Now you could argue that a nation with no resources except its hard-working and intelligent population is on a hiding to nothing trying to fight a nation with both that AND a shedload of resources. I’d agree with you.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon

    This is what I don't get about those surprise attacks, whether it was Pearl Harbor or 9/11 or 10/7. Yes the element of surprise may mean that the initial attack succeeds, but then what? You have to know that after the lash comes the backlash. Is the joy of a sucker punch worth the ass whupping that is sure to follow?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Frau Katze, @Johann Ricke

  419. @Dr. Rock
    I'm going to side with the Radical Black Activist Mob on this one-

    1) Oppenheimer should be re-made, immediately, (sorry, but I didn't think it was that impressive, just ok) and feature the whole team of nuclear physicists as overweight black women.
    2) Move the story to the deep south, so that in-between scenes of them developing the bomb, we can see them kept out of restaurants, or sitting on the back of the bus while riding to work.
    3) Give them all modern "Shaniqua" names too.
    4) Leave out the Commie Hunting Red Scare parts, and instead, make it about these same black women trying to break the color barrier in major league baseball, or something... maybe they can also be Tuskegee Airmen!
    5) Have multiple scenes of their co-workers asking to touch their hair and stuff.
    6) It would be wrong to erase the Jews from this story completely, so these nappy headed hoes can still have some jew bosses, but have Mel Gibson cast them, i.e. more along the lines of The Passion of the Christ, huge noses, bushy eyebrows, super "thrifty", maybe trying to bed these fat negresses, (think Woody Allen), and show them always stiffing the ladies with lunch tabs and the like.
    7) Can we work in a cameo of Emit Till? MLK? Al Jolson?

    Yep, a total re-make is in order, and maybe get Spike Lee to direct it!

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Jack D

    Oppenheimer should be re-made, immediately, (sorry, but I didn’t think it was that impressive, just ok) and feature the whole team of nuclear physicists as overweight black women.

    Some of them should be lesbians plus a few trans women would be good.

  420. @Wokechoke
    @Steve Sailer

    Any chance of a Dune 2 review?

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  421. @Dr. Rock
    I'm going to side with the Radical Black Activist Mob on this one-

    1) Oppenheimer should be re-made, immediately, (sorry, but I didn't think it was that impressive, just ok) and feature the whole team of nuclear physicists as overweight black women.
    2) Move the story to the deep south, so that in-between scenes of them developing the bomb, we can see them kept out of restaurants, or sitting on the back of the bus while riding to work.
    3) Give them all modern "Shaniqua" names too.
    4) Leave out the Commie Hunting Red Scare parts, and instead, make it about these same black women trying to break the color barrier in major league baseball, or something... maybe they can also be Tuskegee Airmen!
    5) Have multiple scenes of their co-workers asking to touch their hair and stuff.
    6) It would be wrong to erase the Jews from this story completely, so these nappy headed hoes can still have some jew bosses, but have Mel Gibson cast them, i.e. more along the lines of The Passion of the Christ, huge noses, bushy eyebrows, super "thrifty", maybe trying to bed these fat negresses, (think Woody Allen), and show them always stiffing the ladies with lunch tabs and the like.
    7) Can we work in a cameo of Emit Till? MLK? Al Jolson?

    Yep, a total re-make is in order, and maybe get Spike Lee to direct it!

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Jack D

    You could redo it as a Broadway musical (and then a movie version). You would get Lin-Manuel Miranda to write it. Academy Award winning actress Da’vine Joy Randolph could play Oppenheimer.


    When Bohr (Oprah Winfrey) asks Oppenheimer if he can hear the music, Oppy breaks into song.

    • LOL: Frau Katze
  422. @Jack D

    But because of its historical context, the cast is nearly all white. The biographical film, directed by Christopher Nolan, is set largely during World War II, when the military and most of American society was still segregated. Its plot — about the classified program to develop the atomic bomb — is centered on powerful and privileged men who work at the nation’s most elite academic institutions.
     
    Yes, the Manhattan Project was just like a pre-WWII WASP country club. No Jews allowed.

    Oops, no, scratch that. Never mind.

    Groves had to make a devil's bargain. He could either let a bunch of Jews and Communists and Jewish Communists and Communist Jews and Communist Jew Commies with funny foreign accents work on the bomb or he could not have a bomb (at least not before the war was over).

    It would be like trying to do some sort of large project today that requires hiring a lot of college professors but you could only hire the ones who were registered Republicans. You could forget about it because there wouldn't be enough of them to do the project.

    Still I am amazed that Nolan did not sneak in at least a few blacks - only a director of Nolan's stature could have gotten away with this. Otherwise there are blacks in all sorts of historical movies where they don't belong nowadays. It's almost mandatory.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @James J. O'Meara, @tyrone, @Nachum, @MEH 0910

    Still I am amazed that Nolan did not sneak in at least a few blacks – only a director of Nolan’s stature could have gotten away with this.

    In a couple of blink-and-you’ll-miss-it moments, a black female student briefly appears in the scene of Oppenheimer teaching his growing class at Caltech in Berkeley (0:18:44), and a black male scientist escorts Oppenheimer at his visit to the University of Chicago (1:07:26).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Ernest_Wilkins_Jr.

    Jesse Ernest Wilkins Jr. (November 27, 1923 – May 1, 2011)[1] was an American nuclear scientist, mechanical engineer and mathematician. A child prodigy, he attended the University of Chicago at the age of 13, becoming its youngest ever student.[2][3][4] His graduation at a young age resulted in him being hailed as “the Negro Genius” in the national media.[5]
    […]
    Wilkins was one of the African American scientists and technicians on the Manhattan Project during the Second World War.
    […]
    Wilkins is portrayed by Ronald Auguste in the 2023 film Oppenheimer,[21] [22] [23]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_scientists_and_technicians_on_the_Manhattan_Project
    https://www.businessinsider.com/manhattan-project-oppenheimer-black-scientists-history-atomic-bomb-science-2023-7

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @MEH 0910

    Yes, but he didn't sneak any into Los Alamos. Which is historically accurate. Before 1947, there were zero black people in Los Alamos (and not many afterward). There was a murder in Los Alamos in 1981 and the murder before that had occurred 32 years earlier.

  423. @Wokechoke
    @B36

    Is there a drama that does what you describe?

    Replies: @Tex

    Hiroshima, by John Hersey. It never got made into a big screen blockbuster. The Atomic Cafe will have to serve.

  424. @YetAnotherAnon
    @res

    The Oppo Find X7 has four 50mp sensors, two with optical zooms. Only available in China atm.

    However the camera region now noticeably sticks out from the rest of the phone.

    https://www.wired.com/review/oppo-find-x7-ultra/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periscope_lens

    Replies: @res

    Thanks. I think you left out an important part though. The sensor sizes. From that review. Emphasis mine.

    The main lens boasts a 1-inch Sony LYT-900 sensor, an f/1.8 aperture, 23-mm focal length, and optical image stabilization (OIS). The ultrawide is packing a Sony LYT-600 sensor, an f/2.0 aperture and a 14-mm focal length, and can focus on subjects as close as 4 centimeters (1.6 inches).

    For zooming, there are two periscope lenses. The first offers 3X optical zoom, and has a 1/1.56-inch Sony IMX890 sensor, an f/2.6 aperture, OIS, and a 65-mm focal length. The second offers 6X optical zoom and packs a 1/2.51-inch Sony IMX858 sensor, an f/4.3 aperture, equivalent to 135-mm focal length, and OIS.

    Looking at that I am guessing the zoom optics impose limits on sensor size?

    Referring back to the link I gave earlier we can see that 1 inch sensor is huge for a phone. Though still about a third (linear dimensions) smaller than micro four thirds.
    https://www.eoshd.com/news/smartphones-and-their-growing-threat-to-mirrorless-cameras-2022-edition/

    Here are details for the Sony LYT sensors. The LYT-600 is 1/1.953 (the review omitted that detail). They quote the LYT-900 as 1/0.98.
    https://www.sony-semicon.com/en/info/2023/2023061501.html

    LYT-900 also found in Xiaomi 14 Ultra.
    https://medium.com/@muhammad.ather/sony-lyt-900-sensor-to-power-oppo-find-x7-pro-xiaomi-14-ultra-8bce615c7941

    This page has a graphic which appears to show the layouts for the zoom lenses.
    https://www.gsmarena.com/oppo_confirms_the_1inch_sony_lyt900_sensor_for_a_find_x7-news-60978.php

  425. @BB753
    @Jack D

    "If it ALWAYS failed then it would be insanity to spend blood and treasure on it, but it doesn’t."

    A couple or so of failures can be very costly. Do you know many trillions we've spent on Afghanistan, Irak and Ukraine?

    "Diplomacy and economic cooperation like Russia tried in Ukraine? Like China used in Tibet and Korea? Please don’t make me laugh."

    War and regime change aren't the default solution. They're the last resort. Perhaps you're not aware of the diplomatic and economical success of BRICs? Of China's growing investments worldwide?

    Replies: @Jack D

    Perhaps you’re not aware of the diplomatic and economical success of BRICs? Of China’s growing investments worldwide?

    Are you some kind of paid Chinese troll? Wherever the Chinese invest, people end up hating them:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-belt-road-plans-losing-momentum-opposition-debt-mount-study-2021-09-29/

    As clumsy as American foreign policy sometimes is, we’re Fred Astaire compared to China. They do nothing but step on toes. The West was a great market for them but Xi has pissed everyone off so much that the West is pushing them out of their economy and so now they have to partner with shitty countries like Russia. Another name for BRICS is the Coalition of the Shitty.

    • LOL: BB753
    • Replies: @BB753
    @Jack D

    What has Xi done to alienate the West? First Trump started an economic war with China and then we now have Biden threatening China with an actual war. Neither war can be won.

    "Another name for BRICS is the Coalition of the Shitty."

    Keep laughing. The G7 look shabbier by the day.

  426. @MEH 0910
    @Jack D


    Still I am amazed that Nolan did not sneak in at least a few blacks – only a director of Nolan’s stature could have gotten away with this.
     
    In a couple of blink-and-you'll-miss-it moments, a black female student briefly appears in the scene of Oppenheimer teaching his growing class at Caltech in Berkeley (0:18:44), and a black male scientist escorts Oppenheimer at his visit to the University of Chicago (1:07:26).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Ernest_Wilkins_Jr.


    Jesse Ernest Wilkins Jr. (November 27, 1923 – May 1, 2011)[1] was an American nuclear scientist, mechanical engineer and mathematician. A child prodigy, he attended the University of Chicago at the age of 13, becoming its youngest ever student.[2][3][4] His graduation at a young age resulted in him being hailed as "the Negro Genius" in the national media.[5]
    [...]
    Wilkins was one of the African American scientists and technicians on the Manhattan Project during the Second World War.
    [...]
    Wilkins is portrayed by Ronald Auguste in the 2023 film Oppenheimer,[21] [22] [23]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_scientists_and_technicians_on_the_Manhattan_Project
    https://www.businessinsider.com/manhattan-project-oppenheimer-black-scientists-history-atomic-bomb-science-2023-7

    Replies: @Jack D

    Yes, but he didn’t sneak any into Los Alamos. Which is historically accurate. Before 1947, there were zero black people in Los Alamos (and not many afterward). There was a murder in Los Alamos in 1981 and the murder before that had occurred 32 years earlier.

  427. @Jack D
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    If you look at a map of Europe, England was surrounded by continental powers in the same way that Japan was surrounded by European influence, but England didn't start a war with them. Starting a pre-emptive war because you perceive you are surrounded by enemies is not "self-defense" despite what Russia says in Ukraine. If the enemy troops are massing on your border and they are about to attack (e.g. Israel in 1967) then it's not wrong to strike first but no one had any plans to invade Japan before they started the war.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    British Army burnt down Washington in 1814, was the then nascent United States a threat to invade Britain?

    Japan attacked Russia pre-emptively in 1904, did US and UK have a problem with it? No. Russia already invaded Manchuria and wanted Korea next.

    Britain was in fact a treaty-bound to join if a third-power (i.e. France or Germany) entered on Russia’s side

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Japanese_Alliance

    Lesser known is the Chinese attacked the Japanese pre-emptively in 1937. Chiang wanted to escalate the war in front the Shanghai International Settlement, to rally British and American support.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War#Battle_of_Shanghai

    It wasn’t like later Chinese and Anglo historians who made it sound like that Japan FOR NO REASON AT ALL invaded China.

    I’m sure you’ve been to the Bund where the architecture is strikingly European.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_International_Settlement

  428. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack D

    "no one had any plans to invade Japan before they started the war"

    You're leaving out a lot of history there. Japan was already in a war with China, and had been for years. Roosevelt's oil embargo was at minimum an unfriendly act, but arguably a causus belli.

    Japan had no oil of her own, it nearly all came from the USA, as did their scrap iron and their copper. These were all stopped by the US in 1940, as were Japanese ships in the Panama canal.

    The US oil embargo and freezing of Japanese assets in 1941 put the tin lid on it.

    As wiki, no pro-Japan site, put it:

    "The complete U.S. oil embargo reduced the Japanese options to two: seize Southeast Asia before its existing stocks of strategic materials were depleted or submission to American demands."


    Now you could argue that a nation with no resources except its hard-working and intelligent population is on a hiding to nothing trying to fight a nation with both that AND a shedload of resources. I'd agree with you.

    Replies: @Jack D

    This is what I don’t get about those surprise attacks, whether it was Pearl Harbor or 9/11 or 10/7. Yes the element of surprise may mean that the initial attack succeeds, but then what? You have to know that after the lash comes the backlash. Is the joy of a sucker punch worth the ass whupping that is sure to follow?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Jack D

    IIRC, it was Yamamoto who said he could run wild for six months after Pearl Harbor, but after that? The Japs expected the USA to settle, but, as you pointed out up thread, Americans are slow to anger but a terrible enemy once enraged. My probably vain hope is that the Houthis learn this lesson soon, since it might give Iran's other proxies second thoughts.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Frau Katze
    @Jack D


    This is what I don’t get about those surprise attacks, whether it was Pearl Harbor or 9/11 or 10/7.
     
    As far as 9/11 and 10/7 go there’s a tremendous amount of temporary glory. The Palestinians were ecstatic and celebrating in the streets.

    And what better way to go afterwards than as a martyr? They really believe this business about the virgins in Paradise waiting for them.
    , @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    This is what I don’t get about those surprise attacks, whether it was Pearl Harbor or 9/11 or 10/7. Yes the element of surprise may mean that the initial attack succeeds, but then what? You have to know that after the lash comes the backlash. Is the joy of a sucker punch worth the ass whupping that is sure to follow?
     
    In fairness, the Russo-Japanese War also began with a surprise attack, but the Russian response was fairly muted. During the Korean War, the Chinese intervention began with a massive surprise attack on US troops. Unlike the US response to Pearl Harbor, the war effort remained at the relatively low level at which it was fought before the PLA crossed the Yalu. With perhaps the exception of General MacArthur, no one suggested that removing the Chinese Communist Party from power should be a US war aim.
  429. @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon

    This is what I don't get about those surprise attacks, whether it was Pearl Harbor or 9/11 or 10/7. Yes the element of surprise may mean that the initial attack succeeds, but then what? You have to know that after the lash comes the backlash. Is the joy of a sucker punch worth the ass whupping that is sure to follow?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Frau Katze, @Johann Ricke

    IIRC, it was Yamamoto who said he could run wild for six months after Pearl Harbor, but after that? The Japs expected the USA to settle, but, as you pointed out up thread, Americans are slow to anger but a terrible enemy once enraged. My probably vain hope is that the Houthis learn this lesson soon, since it might give Iran’s other proxies second thoughts.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jim Don Bob

    The Houthis were bombed by the Saudis with American bombs for quite a long period, so being bombed with American bombs by Americans may not feel much different.

    Did the Houthis start attacking US ships before the US started bombing them? Surely it's the US enraging the Houthis?

    Replies: @Jack D

  430. @nebulafox
    @J.Ross

    More importantly, Iran was willing to invest a lot of time and energy into southern Lebanon. That's what it takes to do this stuff. Hezbollah isn't just an army-it is a social system. Jobs, health care, schools, you name it.

    This is just not a game that plays to American strengths.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    Hezbollah isn’t just an army-it is a social system. Jobs, health care, schools, you name it.

    This is just not a game that plays to American strengths.

    It doesn’t play to American strength because Islamist loons bitterly resent the non-Islamic America.

    If you think Hezbollah will help anyone other than a Shiite Muslim you’re very wrong.

    Even with their “social system” it’s not a place I’d choose even if I was a Shiite Muslim. It wouldn’t surprise me to find a few crossing the American southern border.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    If you think Hezbollah will help anyone other than a Shiite Muslim you’re very wrong.

    This is objectively gibberish, they literally used charity as a way to buy credibility after Iran did the same thing, during war and a global boycott. America destroyed Haitian agriculture by flooding Haiti with American agricultural products.

    https://i.postimg.cc/43Fm2S4F/00-hezbollah-01-11-06-15.jpg

    Replies: @Jack D, @Frau Katze

  431. @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon

    This is what I don't get about those surprise attacks, whether it was Pearl Harbor or 9/11 or 10/7. Yes the element of surprise may mean that the initial attack succeeds, but then what? You have to know that after the lash comes the backlash. Is the joy of a sucker punch worth the ass whupping that is sure to follow?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Frau Katze, @Johann Ricke

    This is what I don’t get about those surprise attacks, whether it was Pearl Harbor or 9/11 or 10/7.

    As far as 9/11 and 10/7 go there’s a tremendous amount of temporary glory. The Palestinians were ecstatic and celebrating in the streets.

    And what better way to go afterwards than as a martyr? They really believe this business about the virgins in Paradise waiting for them.

  432. @Jack D
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    With the defeat of the British imminent, Heenan had mocked the guards, saying he would soon be free, while they would be the prisoners. In response, British military police shot him and dumped his body into the harbour.
     
    The British are usually pretty patient, even with their enemies, but it doesn't pay to stretch your luck with them. If you piss them off badly enough, they are not nice anymore.

    Americans are that way too, which is something that all the clowns who are testing America's patience should take into account.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    If you piss them off badly enough, they are not nice anymore.

    Americans are that way too, which is something that all the clowns who are testing America’s patience should take into account.

    Our patience has its limits!

  433. @Frau Katze
    @nebulafox


    Hezbollah isn’t just an army-it is a social system. Jobs, health care, schools, you name it.

    This is just not a game that plays to American strengths.
     
    It doesn’t play to American strength because Islamist loons bitterly resent the non-Islamic America.

    If you think Hezbollah will help anyone other than a Shiite Muslim you’re very wrong.

    Even with their “social system” it’s not a place I’d choose even if I was a Shiite Muslim. It wouldn’t surprise me to find a few crossing the American southern border.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    If you think Hezbollah will help anyone other than a Shiite Muslim you’re very wrong.

    This is objectively gibberish, they literally used charity as a way to buy credibility after Iran did the same thing, during war and a global boycott. America destroyed Haitian agriculture by flooding Haiti with American agricultural products.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    Hezbollah are not the guardians of Christianity. Arab logic is that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Arab logic is also that who is your enemy can change at any time. So you could be fighting on the side of Christians one day (allied against some other Arab enemy that you hate even more) and against them literally the next. Or you could be fighting on their side in Iraq but fighting against them in South Lebanon. Arabs are the true exemplar of the maxim that groups don't have friends, only interests.

    The idea that American aid destroys local markets is a highbrow Lefty notion - horseshoe theory again. I will tell you what - if you are starving you are damn glad to get any food at all and you don't give a damn where it comes from. That is the kind of stuff you worry about later, after people are no longer dying of starvation.

    Are you going to ship over a whole ship full of American corn meal all nice and clean and well packed or are you going to try to set up some kind of supply chain involving buying moldy corn a bushel at a time from the local farmers at a high price and trying to get it ground into meal and packaged locally in their broken down mills with no sacks and meanwhile kids are dying while you try to organize this crap? If the local markets worked you wouldn't have to be sending food in the 1st place. Chances are there is not enough local food to begin with so if you buy up the local stuff you are only going to bid up the price and make it even more unaffordable to the locals.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @James B. Shearer

    , @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    Hezbollah is a terrorist group. Their flag features a prominent AK-47 (I think that’s what it is).

    I can’t enter a photo from an iPhone but a short search will find it.

    You’re painting a picture of a peaceful, charitable group, and that’s misleading.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  434. @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    'A great many went over to the Japanese as POWs and joined the Indian National Army. In many cases it was to get out of some horrid POW camp rather than definite pro-Japanese or Indian nationalist sentiment, but they were hardly superb soldiers.'
     
    I have a quite unresearched suspicion that it may have been more the officers than the men. After all, there was an essentially unlimited supply of Indians -- but only so many British Indian Army officers.

    My theory would be that the best all went off first with the divisions that were sent to Africa and then with those that went to Mesopotamia. Certainly a disproportionate percentage of your fire-eaters would have wangled themselves a transfer to units slated to go overseas and into combat in 1940/early 1941.

    The ones who were left for Malaya weren't so great. Even if they were competent they probably weren't pushing themselves too hard in training -- or their men.

    I'm thinking of something similar to what happened to the US 106th Infantry Division. I recall reading that when it was still in training, the top third or so was pulled out to replace losses in divisions already overseas. Then it was filled up again.

    When it finally went into action, it promptly collapsed.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    I don’t know if the officers were more or less willing to go over to the INA on capture/surrender. Singapore was a stunning collapse and the British Empire and its prestige never recovered. The proportion of Indian soldiers who went over to the Germans was a lot lower but this could be because a Singapore-type disaster never happened in Europe or North Africa.
    Whether the 106th was particularly poor or just unlucky, I don’t know. I have the impression it was at Ground Zero of the German attack and this was not a good place to be. The division had a high proportion of ex-Army Specialized Training Program members, one of them Kurt Vonnegut. They had a reputation for being clever but also rather unsoldierly.

  435. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "It’s amazing the Fat Man bomb went off at all without Hidden Figures to check von Neumann’s math."

    It's amazing Uncle Samantha didn't bother filming the first ever military use of atomic bombs.

    It's amazing that damage caused by atomic bombs looks 100% identical to damage caused by Uncle Samantha's sustained firebombing campaigns of Japanese cities.

    It's amazing I can find only CGI reenactments of atomic bomb detonations, but no film or video.

    It's amazing that no one has used an atomic bomb since WWII.

    It's amazing Boomers think atomic bombs are real.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @epebble, @p38ace, @AlmaMater

    I have read about that suspicion as well. It’s not impossible. Our government routinely lies about everything. This could be another ruse designed (1) to keep citizens scared and dependent upon our government making more weapons, (2) to be used an excuse to launder more money to make said weapons, and (3) to keep the nation’s populations bellicose and all that benefits that entails.

    Just as the boldfaced lie that is the space program is used to launder billions and the traitorous 911 event is used to steal more of our freedoms, I don’t rule it out as a possibility.

  436. @Colin Wright
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    'Indian soldiers, as they were defeating the Japanese, being ordered by their British commanders to lay down their arms and surrender.'
     
    Not exactly. The Indian divisions that were in Malaya were second-rate formations, and performed very badly.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    There’s a monument near the Ministry of Defence, in Westminster, dedicated to a (type of) British Indian soldier.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurkha_Memorial,_London

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    George Orwell commented on the British tendency to favour the Gurkhas over Hindu Brahmins, and was somewhat critical of this. The British had an entire thing going that some of the ethnic groups of India were "martial" and others not, and tended to prefer those that were. This prejudice affected Indians and Pakistanis even after independence, with West Pakistanis thinking that the mostly Bengali East Pakistanis were cowardly. But in 1971 the West Pakistanis were severely challenged by a Bengali insurgency even before the Indians invaded.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @nebulafox
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Singapore still has Gurkhas in their counter-terrorism forces. They aren't hard to find.

    Part of the appeal back in the 1960s was that they were a neutral party during a time of endemic communal violence between ethnic Chinese and Malays.

  437. @Jim Don Bob
    @Jack D

    IIRC, it was Yamamoto who said he could run wild for six months after Pearl Harbor, but after that? The Japs expected the USA to settle, but, as you pointed out up thread, Americans are slow to anger but a terrible enemy once enraged. My probably vain hope is that the Houthis learn this lesson soon, since it might give Iran's other proxies second thoughts.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    The Houthis were bombed by the Saudis with American bombs for quite a long period, so being bombed with American bombs by Americans may not feel much different.

    Did the Houthis start attacking US ships before the US started bombing them? Surely it’s the US enraging the Houthis?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon


    The Houthis were bombed by the Saudis with American bombs for quite a long period, so being bombed with American bombs by Americans may not feel much different.

     

    If it doesn't feel different yet, then that means we haven't bombed them enough yet. We have to bomb them enough that they get the idea that its not a good idea to attack American ships.

    Saudis bombing you is not the same thing as Americans bombing you. Dollars to donuts the Saudi bombs get dropped into the ocean because the Saudi pilots don't want to risk their life getting near to Houthi air defenses.

    In construction, sometimes things don't line up quite right and then you say that whatever is out of line needs a little "persuasion". "Persuasion" generally means hitting that which is out of line with a full swing of 16 lb. sledgehammer (aka a "persuader" - "just tap that beam a little to the left with the persuader"). If it is still out of line, repeat as much as necessary and eventually the object in question will come into line. Sometimes one whack of the sledge will "persuade" the object into position and sometimes you need to hit it again and again until it moves to where it is supposed to be. The Houthis just need a little similar "persuasion" until they fall into line.


    Did the Houthis start attacking US ships before the US started bombing them?
     

    Yes. The US was not bombing them before 10/7. All the US wanted was to be left alone by these people.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Jim Don Bob

  438. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Colin Wright

    There's a monument near the Ministry of Defence, in Westminster, dedicated to a (type of) British Indian soldier.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Gurkha_Soldier_Monument%2C_London_-_April_2008.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/Gurkha_inscription.JPG

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Gurkha_IOC_1.jpg
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurkha_Memorial,_London

    Replies: @Wielgus, @nebulafox

    George Orwell commented on the British tendency to favour the Gurkhas over Hindu Brahmins, and was somewhat critical of this. The British had an entire thing going that some of the ethnic groups of India were “martial” and others not, and tended to prefer those that were. This prejudice affected Indians and Pakistanis even after independence, with West Pakistanis thinking that the mostly Bengali East Pakistanis were cowardly. But in 1971 the West Pakistanis were severely challenged by a Bengali insurgency even before the Indians invaded.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Wielgus


    The British had an entire thing going that some of the ethnic groups of India were “martial” and others not, and tended to prefer those that were.
     
    America had an entire thing going that some of the ethnic groups of America were “crime prone” and others not, and tended to prefer those that weren't.

    The notion that the British (or the Americans) just conjured this out of their head due to "prejudice" is super Lefty (as was Orwell). The Left regards any sort of noticing as prejudiced since race doesn't really exist. If race doesn't exist, how could one "race" be more "martial" or "crime prone" or anything else than another?
  439. @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    If you think Hezbollah will help anyone other than a Shiite Muslim you’re very wrong.

    This is objectively gibberish, they literally used charity as a way to buy credibility after Iran did the same thing, during war and a global boycott. America destroyed Haitian agriculture by flooding Haiti with American agricultural products.

    https://i.postimg.cc/43Fm2S4F/00-hezbollah-01-11-06-15.jpg

    Replies: @Jack D, @Frau Katze

    Hezbollah are not the guardians of Christianity. Arab logic is that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Arab logic is also that who is your enemy can change at any time. So you could be fighting on the side of Christians one day (allied against some other Arab enemy that you hate even more) and against them literally the next. Or you could be fighting on their side in Iraq but fighting against them in South Lebanon. Arabs are the true exemplar of the maxim that groups don’t have friends, only interests.

    The idea that American aid destroys local markets is a highbrow Lefty notion – horseshoe theory again. I will tell you what – if you are starving you are damn glad to get any food at all and you don’t give a damn where it comes from. That is the kind of stuff you worry about later, after people are no longer dying of starvation.

    Are you going to ship over a whole ship full of American corn meal all nice and clean and well packed or are you going to try to set up some kind of supply chain involving buying moldy corn a bushel at a time from the local farmers at a high price and trying to get it ground into meal and packaged locally in their broken down mills with no sacks and meanwhile kids are dying while you try to organize this crap? If the local markets worked you wouldn’t have to be sending food in the 1st place. Chances are there is not enough local food to begin with so if you buy up the local stuff you are only going to bid up the price and make it even more unaffordable to the locals.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Jack D

    >Arab logic is that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    Whose isn't?

    , @James B. Shearer
    @Jack D

    "Are you going to ship over a whole ship full of American corn meal all nice and clean and well packed or are you going to try to set up some kind of supply chain involving buying moldy corn a bushel at a time from the local farmers at a high price and trying to get it ground into meal and packaged locally in their broken down mills with no sacks and meanwhile kids are dying while you try to organize this crap? ..."

    This is fine if you are planning to feed them forever. Otherwise maybe you shouldn't wipe out the local agricultural sector.

    Replies: @Jack D

  440. @Wielgus
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    George Orwell commented on the British tendency to favour the Gurkhas over Hindu Brahmins, and was somewhat critical of this. The British had an entire thing going that some of the ethnic groups of India were "martial" and others not, and tended to prefer those that were. This prejudice affected Indians and Pakistanis even after independence, with West Pakistanis thinking that the mostly Bengali East Pakistanis were cowardly. But in 1971 the West Pakistanis were severely challenged by a Bengali insurgency even before the Indians invaded.

    Replies: @Jack D

    The British had an entire thing going that some of the ethnic groups of India were “martial” and others not, and tended to prefer those that were.

    America had an entire thing going that some of the ethnic groups of America were “crime prone” and others not, and tended to prefer those that weren’t.

    The notion that the British (or the Americans) just conjured this out of their head due to “prejudice” is super Lefty (as was Orwell). The Left regards any sort of noticing as prejudiced since race doesn’t really exist. If race doesn’t exist, how could one “race” be more “martial” or “crime prone” or anything else than another?

  441. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jim Don Bob

    The Houthis were bombed by the Saudis with American bombs for quite a long period, so being bombed with American bombs by Americans may not feel much different.

    Did the Houthis start attacking US ships before the US started bombing them? Surely it's the US enraging the Houthis?

    Replies: @Jack D

    The Houthis were bombed by the Saudis with American bombs for quite a long period, so being bombed with American bombs by Americans may not feel much different.

    If it doesn’t feel different yet, then that means we haven’t bombed them enough yet. We have to bomb them enough that they get the idea that its not a good idea to attack American ships.

    Saudis bombing you is not the same thing as Americans bombing you. Dollars to donuts the Saudi bombs get dropped into the ocean because the Saudi pilots don’t want to risk their life getting near to Houthi air defenses.

    In construction, sometimes things don’t line up quite right and then you say that whatever is out of line needs a little “persuasion”. “Persuasion” generally means hitting that which is out of line with a full swing of 16 lb. sledgehammer (aka a “persuader” – “just tap that beam a little to the left with the persuader”). If it is still out of line, repeat as much as necessary and eventually the object in question will come into line. Sometimes one whack of the sledge will “persuade” the object into position and sometimes you need to hit it again and again until it moves to where it is supposed to be. The Houthis just need a little similar “persuasion” until they fall into line.

    Did the Houthis start attacking US ships before the US started bombing them?

    Yes. The US was not bombing them before 10/7. All the US wanted was to be left alone by these people.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack D

    What was the American ship they attacked before the US started bombing them?

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Jack D


    In construction, sometimes things don’t line up quite right and then you say that whatever is out of line needs a little “persuasion”. “Persuasion” generally means hitting that which is out of line with a full swing of 16 lb. sledgehammer (aka a “persuader” – “just tap that beam a little to the left with the persuader”). If it is still out of line, repeat as much as necessary and eventually the object in question will come into line.
     
    Ten years ago I built a small building with the help of the local carpenter. Leonard and I laid out the baseplate and nailed it to the slab. Then Leonard measured both diagonals, and used a 16 pound sledge to gently nudge it into being perfectly rectangular.

    The Houthis need more nudging. I suggest high explosives followed by incendiaries.
  442. @Jack D
    @BB753


    Perhaps you’re not aware of the diplomatic and economical success of BRICs? Of China’s growing investments worldwide?
     
    Are you some kind of paid Chinese troll? Wherever the Chinese invest, people end up hating them:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-belt-road-plans-losing-momentum-opposition-debt-mount-study-2021-09-29/

    As clumsy as American foreign policy sometimes is, we're Fred Astaire compared to China. They do nothing but step on toes. The West was a great market for them but Xi has pissed everyone off so much that the West is pushing them out of their economy and so now they have to partner with shitty countries like Russia. Another name for BRICS is the Coalition of the Shitty.

    Replies: @BB753

    What has Xi done to alienate the West? First Trump started an economic war with China and then we now have Biden threatening China with an actual war. Neither war can be won.

    “Another name for BRICS is the Coalition of the Shitty.”

    Keep laughing. The G7 look shabbier by the day.

  443. @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    Hezbollah are not the guardians of Christianity. Arab logic is that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Arab logic is also that who is your enemy can change at any time. So you could be fighting on the side of Christians one day (allied against some other Arab enemy that you hate even more) and against them literally the next. Or you could be fighting on their side in Iraq but fighting against them in South Lebanon. Arabs are the true exemplar of the maxim that groups don't have friends, only interests.

    The idea that American aid destroys local markets is a highbrow Lefty notion - horseshoe theory again. I will tell you what - if you are starving you are damn glad to get any food at all and you don't give a damn where it comes from. That is the kind of stuff you worry about later, after people are no longer dying of starvation.

    Are you going to ship over a whole ship full of American corn meal all nice and clean and well packed or are you going to try to set up some kind of supply chain involving buying moldy corn a bushel at a time from the local farmers at a high price and trying to get it ground into meal and packaged locally in their broken down mills with no sacks and meanwhile kids are dying while you try to organize this crap? If the local markets worked you wouldn't have to be sending food in the 1st place. Chances are there is not enough local food to begin with so if you buy up the local stuff you are only going to bid up the price and make it even more unaffordable to the locals.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @James B. Shearer

    >Arab logic is that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    Whose isn’t?

  444. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Colin Wright

    There's a monument near the Ministry of Defence, in Westminster, dedicated to a (type of) British Indian soldier.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Gurkha_Soldier_Monument%2C_London_-_April_2008.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/Gurkha_inscription.JPG

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Gurkha_IOC_1.jpg
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurkha_Memorial,_London

    Replies: @Wielgus, @nebulafox

    Singapore still has Gurkhas in their counter-terrorism forces. They aren’t hard to find.

    Part of the appeal back in the 1960s was that they were a neutral party during a time of endemic communal violence between ethnic Chinese and Malays.

  445. @Anon 2
    @Jack D

    Re: Feynman as one of the foremost geniuses of the 20th century?

    As a student I once had a conversation with Feynman, so I can say that in his
    later years he was very approachable but it’s an exaggeration to claim he was
    one of the foremost geniuses of the 20th century. The key fact is that until
    the 1950s, i.e., until the postwar years when Europe lay in ruins, American
    physics was second-rate. Oppenheimer is regarded by physicists as mostly
    a bureaucrat, something that the movie carefully conceals. He never
    published a long paper, and was too scattered in his interests, third rate
    at best as a physicist.

    As to Feynman, he is best known as the inventor of so-called Feynman
    diagrams, a particle approach to quantum field theory. Many regard it
    as a pedagogical gimmick without a deeper meaning. The scandal is
    that Feynman lacks a famous equation named after himself. There is
    an anecdote about it: Dirac, famous for the Dirac equation, once
    asked Feynman at a conference, “I have an equation. Do you?”
    Feynman’s IQ was only 125, nothing to write home about. Once
    when he was asked to give a series of lectures in Brazil, he started
    studying Spanish, etc. But there is no question that he was a great
    pedagogue.

    This fits the standard view that Europe is Greece, and the U.S., due
    to its anti-intellectualism, is Rome. It tells you everything you
    want to know that a middle-brow composer like Gershwin is
    regarded as great. The same goes for a middle-brow director
    like Spielberg. The U.S, turns everything into a business. Movies
    are evaluated primarily by their box office receipts, music by
    Billboard rankings. Because of this America used to have a pop
    culture that was the 7th Wonder of the World, but little in the
    way of a high culture.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    “…Feynman’s IQ was only 125, nothing to write home about. …”

    Apparently he scored 125 on one test. I expect it was actually quite a bit higher. He was a Putnam fellow (top five scorer) which indicates very high math ability.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @James B. Shearer

    Feynman made it a point of pride not to memorize anything that he thought was superfluous or that you could just look up in a book. So if you asked him on an IQ test, how far is from NY to London or in what year the Declaration of Independence was signed, he would tell you that he didn't know. He'd probably tell you that even if he did, just to make a point that this was worthless information. The good questions were the ones to which we didn't already have an answer.

    On his admission tests for Princeton grad school, he scored super high in math and low in everything non-STEM so his overall score was low. His prospective advisor at Princeton wrote to his mentor at MIT questioning whether he should take him, especially since he was a Jew. Not that he was prejudiced, but Princeton had problems placing Jews in academic jobs. His mentor said that Feynman was OK - he was a Jew but not a Jewy Jew (not in those words) and that Princeton should take him (and he was not wrong).

  446. @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    Hezbollah are not the guardians of Christianity. Arab logic is that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Arab logic is also that who is your enemy can change at any time. So you could be fighting on the side of Christians one day (allied against some other Arab enemy that you hate even more) and against them literally the next. Or you could be fighting on their side in Iraq but fighting against them in South Lebanon. Arabs are the true exemplar of the maxim that groups don't have friends, only interests.

    The idea that American aid destroys local markets is a highbrow Lefty notion - horseshoe theory again. I will tell you what - if you are starving you are damn glad to get any food at all and you don't give a damn where it comes from. That is the kind of stuff you worry about later, after people are no longer dying of starvation.

    Are you going to ship over a whole ship full of American corn meal all nice and clean and well packed or are you going to try to set up some kind of supply chain involving buying moldy corn a bushel at a time from the local farmers at a high price and trying to get it ground into meal and packaged locally in their broken down mills with no sacks and meanwhile kids are dying while you try to organize this crap? If the local markets worked you wouldn't have to be sending food in the 1st place. Chances are there is not enough local food to begin with so if you buy up the local stuff you are only going to bid up the price and make it even more unaffordable to the locals.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @James B. Shearer

    “Are you going to ship over a whole ship full of American corn meal all nice and clean and well packed or are you going to try to set up some kind of supply chain involving buying moldy corn a bushel at a time from the local farmers at a high price and trying to get it ground into meal and packaged locally in their broken down mills with no sacks and meanwhile kids are dying while you try to organize this crap? …”

    This is fine if you are planning to feed them forever. Otherwise maybe you shouldn’t wipe out the local agricultural sector.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @James B. Shearer

    There is no long term if everyone starves to death in the short term. Once the immediate crisis is over you can work on building local supply chains. Permanent welfare (UNRWA) is a very bad idea.

  447. @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    If you think Hezbollah will help anyone other than a Shiite Muslim you’re very wrong.

    This is objectively gibberish, they literally used charity as a way to buy credibility after Iran did the same thing, during war and a global boycott. America destroyed Haitian agriculture by flooding Haiti with American agricultural products.

    https://i.postimg.cc/43Fm2S4F/00-hezbollah-01-11-06-15.jpg

    Replies: @Jack D, @Frau Katze

    Hezbollah is a terrorist group. Their flag features a prominent AK-47 (I think that’s what it is).

    I can’t enter a photo from an iPhone but a short search will find it.

    You’re painting a picture of a peaceful, charitable group, and that’s misleading.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    If you say "AK," everyone will know what you mean, "AK-47" technically refers only to the first model. A real AK-47 would be worth thousands of dollars, for a rifle pattern noted for its cheapness.
    >peaceful ... group
    Dude in camo in a war zone with an AK patch on his arm.
    Okay. Is Jack D bribing you with groceries?

    Replies: @Frau Katze

  448. @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    Hezbollah is a terrorist group. Their flag features a prominent AK-47 (I think that’s what it is).

    I can’t enter a photo from an iPhone but a short search will find it.

    You’re painting a picture of a peaceful, charitable group, and that’s misleading.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    If you say “AK,” everyone will know what you mean, “AK-47” technically refers only to the first model. A real AK-47 would be worth thousands of dollars, for a rifle pattern noted for its cheapness.
    >peaceful … group
    Dude in camo in a war zone with an AK patch on his arm.
    Okay. Is Jack D bribing you with groceries?

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    Sorry if I described the weapon wrong. I know zero about such things.

  449. @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon


    The Houthis were bombed by the Saudis with American bombs for quite a long period, so being bombed with American bombs by Americans may not feel much different.

     

    If it doesn't feel different yet, then that means we haven't bombed them enough yet. We have to bomb them enough that they get the idea that its not a good idea to attack American ships.

    Saudis bombing you is not the same thing as Americans bombing you. Dollars to donuts the Saudi bombs get dropped into the ocean because the Saudi pilots don't want to risk their life getting near to Houthi air defenses.

    In construction, sometimes things don't line up quite right and then you say that whatever is out of line needs a little "persuasion". "Persuasion" generally means hitting that which is out of line with a full swing of 16 lb. sledgehammer (aka a "persuader" - "just tap that beam a little to the left with the persuader"). If it is still out of line, repeat as much as necessary and eventually the object in question will come into line. Sometimes one whack of the sledge will "persuade" the object into position and sometimes you need to hit it again and again until it moves to where it is supposed to be. The Houthis just need a little similar "persuasion" until they fall into line.


    Did the Houthis start attacking US ships before the US started bombing them?
     

    Yes. The US was not bombing them before 10/7. All the US wanted was to be left alone by these people.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Jim Don Bob

    What was the American ship they attacked before the US started bombing them?

  450. @James B. Shearer
    @Jack D

    "Are you going to ship over a whole ship full of American corn meal all nice and clean and well packed or are you going to try to set up some kind of supply chain involving buying moldy corn a bushel at a time from the local farmers at a high price and trying to get it ground into meal and packaged locally in their broken down mills with no sacks and meanwhile kids are dying while you try to organize this crap? ..."

    This is fine if you are planning to feed them forever. Otherwise maybe you shouldn't wipe out the local agricultural sector.

    Replies: @Jack D

    There is no long term if everyone starves to death in the short term. Once the immediate crisis is over you can work on building local supply chains. Permanent welfare (UNRWA) is a very bad idea.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
  451. @James B. Shearer
    @Anon 2

    "...Feynman’s IQ was only 125, nothing to write home about. ..."

    Apparently he scored 125 on one test. I expect it was actually quite a bit higher. He was a Putnam fellow (top five scorer) which indicates very high math ability.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Feynman made it a point of pride not to memorize anything that he thought was superfluous or that you could just look up in a book. So if you asked him on an IQ test, how far is from NY to London or in what year the Declaration of Independence was signed, he would tell you that he didn’t know. He’d probably tell you that even if he did, just to make a point that this was worthless information. The good questions were the ones to which we didn’t already have an answer.

    On his admission tests for Princeton grad school, he scored super high in math and low in everything non-STEM so his overall score was low. His prospective advisor at Princeton wrote to his mentor at MIT questioning whether he should take him, especially since he was a Jew. Not that he was prejudiced, but Princeton had problems placing Jews in academic jobs. His mentor said that Feynman was OK – he was a Jew but not a Jewy Jew (not in those words) and that Princeton should take him (and he was not wrong).

  452. @HA
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    "Everyone now understands that Ukraine can’t win this war and that it will only get worse for them as time goes on."

    No, not everyone -- that's you and the fanboys who ever and always have been saying that Russia can only advance, no matter how painfully slow and how many heroic retreats to the rear they've suffered. No one who isn't already a gullible dupe or stooge with regard to Russian troll memes understands anything of the sort.

    And even if what you said were true, it wouldn't be particularly relevant, given that it omits the fact that things are only going to get worse for the Russians, too. Those boats, those planes, and those tanks -- the West is still crunching them out. It seems like forever, but F-16 will eventually make it to the Ukrainians. I suspect that 300bn euros of frozen Russian assets will also start to dribble to them. Whereas the Russians keep refurbishing museum pieces and calling them tanks, but there's a finite number of those.

    "we can’t supply them with enough military equipment."

    They seem to be able to crunch out a fair number of drones judging from all the downed boats and planes and the like. And again, the Russians are scrambling to get North Korean equipment, so evidently they don't have enough either.

    Fabian strategies has worked before. With enough bombed airfields and gas depots, the Russians are going to have a harder and harder time keeping this going. The electricity grid is still operating in Ukraine. People are still moving about even in places not far from the front lines like Odessa. Russia doesn't have the bombs it needs for the sustained campaign it hoped everyone would believe it was capable of back when they first tried that.

    I get it -- everything always works in Russia's favor according to the fanboys. The winter freeze will surely bring that huge Russian offensive because it makes the ground easy to traverse, but somehow, that never applies to the Ukrainians. The mud will only muck up the Ukrainian equipment, not the Russians. And according to the likes of Douglas Macgregor, in another two weeks, the Ukrainians will collapse, and this time, they really mean it!

    No, stop kidding yourself. If anything, the troll alerts about how the Ukrainians are just days away from collapse have reduced in quantity over the past few months.

    Replies: @anonymous, @HA

    “And according to the likes of Douglas Macgregor, in another two weeks, the Ukrainians will collapse, and this time, he really means it!”

    And speaking of Macgregor, it turns out that actually, Ukraine is looking to outlast even the good ol’ USA

  453. @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon


    The Houthis were bombed by the Saudis with American bombs for quite a long period, so being bombed with American bombs by Americans may not feel much different.

     

    If it doesn't feel different yet, then that means we haven't bombed them enough yet. We have to bomb them enough that they get the idea that its not a good idea to attack American ships.

    Saudis bombing you is not the same thing as Americans bombing you. Dollars to donuts the Saudi bombs get dropped into the ocean because the Saudi pilots don't want to risk their life getting near to Houthi air defenses.

    In construction, sometimes things don't line up quite right and then you say that whatever is out of line needs a little "persuasion". "Persuasion" generally means hitting that which is out of line with a full swing of 16 lb. sledgehammer (aka a "persuader" - "just tap that beam a little to the left with the persuader"). If it is still out of line, repeat as much as necessary and eventually the object in question will come into line. Sometimes one whack of the sledge will "persuade" the object into position and sometimes you need to hit it again and again until it moves to where it is supposed to be. The Houthis just need a little similar "persuasion" until they fall into line.


    Did the Houthis start attacking US ships before the US started bombing them?
     

    Yes. The US was not bombing them before 10/7. All the US wanted was to be left alone by these people.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Jim Don Bob

    In construction, sometimes things don’t line up quite right and then you say that whatever is out of line needs a little “persuasion”. “Persuasion” generally means hitting that which is out of line with a full swing of 16 lb. sledgehammer (aka a “persuader” – “just tap that beam a little to the left with the persuader”). If it is still out of line, repeat as much as necessary and eventually the object in question will come into line.

    Ten years ago I built a small building with the help of the local carpenter. Leonard and I laid out the baseplate and nailed it to the slab. Then Leonard measured both diagonals, and used a 16 pound sledge to gently nudge it into being perfectly rectangular.

    The Houthis need more nudging. I suggest high explosives followed by incendiaries.

  454. @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon

    This is what I don't get about those surprise attacks, whether it was Pearl Harbor or 9/11 or 10/7. Yes the element of surprise may mean that the initial attack succeeds, but then what? You have to know that after the lash comes the backlash. Is the joy of a sucker punch worth the ass whupping that is sure to follow?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Frau Katze, @Johann Ricke

    This is what I don’t get about those surprise attacks, whether it was Pearl Harbor or 9/11 or 10/7. Yes the element of surprise may mean that the initial attack succeeds, but then what? You have to know that after the lash comes the backlash. Is the joy of a sucker punch worth the ass whupping that is sure to follow?

    In fairness, the Russo-Japanese War also began with a surprise attack, but the Russian response was fairly muted. During the Korean War, the Chinese intervention began with a massive surprise attack on US troops. Unlike the US response to Pearl Harbor, the war effort remained at the relatively low level at which it was fought before the PLA crossed the Yalu. With perhaps the exception of General MacArthur, no one suggested that removing the Chinese Communist Party from power should be a US war aim.

  455. @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    If you say "AK," everyone will know what you mean, "AK-47" technically refers only to the first model. A real AK-47 would be worth thousands of dollars, for a rifle pattern noted for its cheapness.
    >peaceful ... group
    Dude in camo in a war zone with an AK patch on his arm.
    Okay. Is Jack D bribing you with groceries?

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    Sorry if I described the weapon wrong. I know zero about such things.

  456. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack D

    They've already hatched.

    I realize that insane neocons such as yourself can't see this, but the Ukraine war has been a disaster for the Global American Empire (GAE). Nothing fatal, but a turning point.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    When Jack’s right, he’s right. There’s still time for the Neocons to get us all killed rather than lose the war they provoked.

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