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As I’ve been pointing out for years, while our culture is obsessed with terror that blacks might not be getting enough screen time, even though they’ve gotten their share of roles in movies and TV shows for quite a few decades now, virtually nobody cares that nobody cares about Latinos. From KQED:

Only 4.5% Speaking Roles in Hollywood Go to Latino Actors, Study Shows
Jake Coyle, Associated Press, Aug 26

Latinos make up 18% of the U.S. population and 24% of its frequent moviegoers, yet they rarely see themselves on movie screens.

A new study by the USC Annenberg Inclusion Initiative finds that Latino representation in film lags significantly behind the U.S. population and that, over the last decade, the number of Latino characters in the most popular movies is virtually unchanged.

The report, released Monday and conducted in partnership with the National Association of Latino Independent Producers (NALIP) and Wise Entertainment, analyzed the 1,200 top-grossing films from 2007 to 2018 and some 47,268 speaking or named characters. It found that in that 12-year period, 4.5% of all speaking or named characters were Latino, and just 3% of leads or co-leads….

Researchers found that in the films studied, 4% had a Latino director, and most of those filmmakers — 71% — were from outside the U.S. Out of the 1,335 directors, only one was a Latina. Among producers, just 3% were Latino. …

The results of the study, while hardly surprising, are particularly striking considering what avid moviegoers Latinos generally are. The MPAA has said that 24% of frequent moviegoers — those who go to the movies at least once a month — are Latino. No other ethnic demographic is more overrepresented among moviegoers.

The disparity is even more glaring considering that the movie business is centered in Los Angeles, where Latinos make up 49% of the population.

 
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  1. Have them go see Hollywood’s film version of Edna Ferber’s GIANT.

  2. Would Hispanics be significantly more comfortable watching people from outside their group in entertainments because of a stronger internal sense of culture and identity, whereas black striving and camera-hogging is pretty much them making a culture and identity on the fly? Are Africans in Africa measurably cooler with watching non-Africans than our blacks?

    • Replies: @Icy Blast
    They are not ours. They are yours.
  3. It would be more meaningful if this yet-another-study would break this down into “Latino” and “Conquistador.” What we really have are American Indians and Iberian Europeans. Most of the directors and producers who are “Latino” or “Hispanic” are probably just what we really should stop calling Hispanic, and just call White.

    The moviegoers, though must include lots of Indians, who are not known for actively caring much about politico-socio hairsplitting anyway. Let them enjoy the movies. If they went to Harvard Medical School, they probably wouldn’t be bothered by pictures of White doctors on the walls.

    American Indian “Latinos” are sounding better and better.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    American Indian “Latinos” are sounding better and better.
     
    That makes about as much sense as 'American Indian Anglo'.

    The brown natives of the Americas have a history going back 1,000s 0f yrs before Latino whites came. Calling them 'latino' or 'hispanic' is to deny their deep roots prior to the European conquest. It really must stop. Africa was under European rule but we still call Africans 'Africans'. Calling browns of 'Latin America' as 'latino' is like calling blacks of South Africa 'anglo' or 'dutch'.
    , @OscarWildeLoveChild
    We've been on a collision course with this obvious point, arguably since the category was created ("Hispanic") but most recently in the last ten years with the increased desire for people to be "not white" (including the new proposed MENA category).

    Although there is a fair number of mixed marriages and parentage between (actual) Whites and Mestizos, there are also a fair number of White Hispanics with non-Hispanic Whites, and both categories are being called "Hispanic/Latino" and categorized as "not white", in most cultural references--including those talking about the imminent demise of white people in the USA. Granted, there will be less Germanic (Anglo-Saxon, Jute) whites in the US in the future, and possibly less Celtic-identified (although N. Spain is Celtic), the reality is that a caste system similar to Brazil or, if you like, Louisiana in the CURRENT YEAR, has already developed.

    Everyone knows who is "white" and who isn't. Even the most dark-eyed, medium skinned, brunette Latinos can be instantly recognized as whether they are "White" or "white enough" (Salma Hayek, Penelope Cruz [Spaniard], Eva Longoria, Jimmy Smitts, etc).

    The question is, will there be any calling out of White Hispanics when it comes to Affirmative Action (college entrances, government jobs), in the future. So far, there has not been and millions of white hispanics, many of whom have no cultural affiliation with the greater Latino/Hispanic culture, and who don't speak Spanish, or don't carry a recognizably 'Spanish' surname, continue to consider themselves "Hispanic" and/or "Latino".

    It's like being part of a Native American tribe without the burdens of proof basically.
  4. Have them go see Hollywood’s film version of Edna Ferber’s GIANT.

    Starring no less than Liz Taylor, Rock Hudson, and James Dean.
    Made no less than 64 years ago now.

    GIANT morphs from an epic family drama into an endless harangue about race relations and ‘white privilege’ although they didn’t call it that in the 1950s. Guess what? Racism and sexism are really bad. In case you aren’t sure, GIANT spends three hours repeatedly hammering this point home, over and over.

    Significantly for the current discussion, the film is concerned with Mexicans only and the blacks in the film remain in properly subservient roles. I guess we pick and choose our lessons. By the end (it finally does end), Liz delivers the final speech, wherein she declares that by beating up some evil racists, Rock has finally become her hero. Wow, that took a while.

    Dean’s Jett Rink ends up being the bad guy. You’ll root for him.

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
    Giant. What a crap waste. The only good part of the movie is where Rock Hudson fights the diner owner. The movie is only famous in Texas because Hollywood actors came out to Marfa. And they got to say they met Liz Taylor, et. al.
    , @AnotherDad

    GIANT morphs from an epic family drama into an endless harangue about race relations and ‘white privilege’ although they didn’t call it that in the 1950s. Guess what? Racism and sexism are really bad. In case you aren’t sure, GIANT spends three hours repeatedly hammering this point home, over and over.
     
    Mr. McKenna, i sense some displeasure at getting yet another lecture on the very, bad, bad, racist, racism of white gentiles ... from the people who kept themselves meticulously racially separate and refused to integrate with their neighbors for the last 3000 years.

    I think you must be a racist.
    , @guest
    Well, Jimmy messes around with Rock and Liz's younger daughter apparently because he wants in on that Taylor action.

    I like how Rock has a seven-hour fistfight inside a chicken joint because they don't want to serve his dusky family members, or something like that.

    http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2013-01-08-giant.jpg

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Thank you for that quick review, Mr. McKenna. I'm serious about that. I could have picked this movie out from the library some time and gotten pissed off when I got that far into the movie to hit up against this 64 y/o PC. Recently, I had to go to my 3rd and final movie to not run into this shit (luckily early on, to where I had time to revert to back-ups)

    Off of Peak Stupidity: Tried to watch a movie - here's 3 reviews in one!
    , @Enemy of Earth
    Do not mean to be overly picky but the Rock Hudson character actually gets his ass kicked by the owner of the diner who objected to serving Rock's Tex-Mex daughter in law and child. The Liz Taylor character declares her love and admiration for her husband as he lay in the mashed potatoes and gravy to him later on that evening back at the ranch.

    Seeing that film in my youth led me to some conclusions about why my Anglo dad and Tex-Mex mom left Texas. I think they knew the kind of unpleasantness their children would encounter. Two of us are dark, the other two are pretty fair. Heard my mother say more than once she would never again live in Texas.

    , @Known Fact
    Duel in the Sun (1946) was also dripping in Tex-Mex racial overtones, with Jennifer Jones as the Mestizo half-breed

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duel_in_the_Sun_(film)
  5. It’s actually kind of weird. Hispanics are capable of quality entertainment in their own countries, but here it’s like the desert. I took a Mexican-American lit class in grad school and they were really reaching for the bottom.

    South America and Mexico have great writers in their own right (may not be to your taste) but none have migrated to the US. There is literally no good South of the border writer in America.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    It could be that writing in Spanish and writing in English is different, also that Anglo (is America still anglo?) culture is different from Latin American. Most famous writers in Latin America write in Spanish, and even Isabel Allende, who lives in the U.S., writes in Spanish.

    But I think the main reason really is that mostly low-class (low IQ?) Latin Americans migrate to the U.S., middle class or people with a higher education level either stay in their own countries as they can have a more comfortable life there, or if they migrate, they prefer Europe (Spain, France) which had a tradition of receiving Latin American intellectual exiles in the 70s. Some now migrate to Canada too.
    , @Jack D
    There were times when different parts of Latin America were politically unstable and their great writers had to leave and some ended up in the US (e.g. Isabel Allende) . But for the most part, Latin authors are part of the white upper class and live comfortable lives back home, maybe more comfortably than they could afford here. I think people here have the wrong impression of what Mexico is like based upon places like Tijuana. The fancier neighborhoods of Mexico City have boutiques and upscale restaurants, etc. that are as nice as those found anywhere. And these countries have universities and an intellectual life, while most cultured Latinos (the kind who write books) consider most of American culture to be philistine. As far as they are concerned, as long as the political situation permits it, they have literally no reason to want to live in the US. (Isabel Allende moved here because she married an American but she could move back to Chile now if she wanted to).

    And the Mexicans we get here are mostly mixed race and poor and not likely to write great literature. If they grow up and are educated in the US, they are immersed in modern American grievance culture and the stuff that they write reflects this so it's agitprop and not literature.
    , @J.Ross
    https://postimg.cc/ctRLd72H
  6. Are East-Asian and Sub-Continental immigrants comfortable subjecting their children to Mexican-mestizo majority school districts? Or do they still have enough legacy majority suburbs to parasite off of ?

    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
    In California, from my experience, East Asian and Indian immigrants rate school quality based on the percentage of Asian students, the higher the percentage, the better the school -- and are unabashed at stating so in mixed workplaces. These are not controversial nor mean statements to them, just what is considered common sense. So black, brown, and white students are not enticements. Of course, Americans with Asian ancestry and raised here are Americans, and hence much more circumspect about it all -- I haven't heard any opinions from them on the matter.
  7. What does Perez Hilton have to say?

  8. @Mr McKenna
    Have them go see Hollywood's film version of Edna Ferber's GIANT.

    Starring no less than Liz Taylor, Rock Hudson, and James Dean.
    Made no less than 64 years ago now.

    GIANT morphs from an epic family drama into an endless harangue about race relations and 'white privilege' although they didn't call it that in the 1950s. Guess what? Racism and sexism are really bad. In case you aren't sure, GIANT spends three hours repeatedly hammering this point home, over and over.

    Significantly for the current discussion, the film is concerned with Mexicans only and the blacks in the film remain in properly subservient roles. I guess we pick and choose our lessons. By the end (it finally does end), Liz delivers the final speech, wherein she declares that by beating up some evil racists, Rock has finally become her hero. Wow, that took a while.

    Dean's Jett Rink ends up being the bad guy. You'll root for him.

    Giant. What a crap waste. The only good part of the movie is where Rock Hudson fights the diner owner. The movie is only famous in Texas because Hollywood actors came out to Marfa. And they got to say they met Liz Taylor, et. al.

  9. Maybe the Hollywood writers and big shots just aren’t familiar with Hispanics?

    Maybe if there were more Hispanics in the state, region, city where they make the movies?

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  10. The late, great Charles Bronson sure played a mean Mexican.

    Rather ironically he was a Pole….

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    How about that other great Mexican actor, Eli Wallach? And who can forget Marlon Brando as Emiliano Zapata or Yul Brynner, Telly Savalas, and Wallace Beery as Pancho Villa?

    No Hollywood film ever employed more actual Mexicans than Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch, though Wild Bunch member "Angel" was played by a Puerto Rican.
  11. Generalizing of course…… Hispanics are fairly content to go along with the social and racial pecking order. My town athletic field is converting one field to artificial turf and all the grunts are Hispanic. They can plug away all day at it. You could never get blacks to do this work be they American or immigrants. Partly because they are incapable of being sociable enough to form stable work crews that work on project after project.

    Blacks these days are the big bad rebels coming up with bs such as their slavery built America. Aided and abetted by nitwit libs-leftists, or you would never see the 1619 project. Blacks are more prominent and respected these days due them doing great and pulling in millions in sports ball and show business. Money talks, so when there are so many super rich blacks, blacks as a whole get respect. As far as black intellectual achievements, what a joke. Though via very pushy AA policies there are numerous black professors these days, mostly teaching useless stuff. Zero STEM for them. But they love them university .Edu and black grievance studies slots.

    • Replies: @Brian Reilly
    Clyde, You write that "Blacks are more prominent and respected these days due them doing great and pulling in millions in sports ball and show business. Money talks, so when there are so many super rich blacks, blacks as a whole get respect.". I suppose it depends on how "Respect" is defined. The athletes are surely respected on the field of play for their extraordinary skill and tenacious desire to win, but off the field? It all depends on their conduct. The non performer types (like Jay Z and Al Sharpton, and Barack Obama these days) are feared more than respected. Cross them and your career may be over. The academic types (like the civil servant class, say Mayor Pugh in Baltimore) are envied, not respected. That crew has a rice bowl and a soft bed, and cannot be moved without dire consequences.

    The whole black race paradigm in the US is very fragile. Outside of sports and a bit of entertainment performance, there is nothing that black people contribute to the common weal that would be much missed if it were no longer available, not even by blacks. When the non-blacks in America lose their fear of black unrest, it will be but a short moment until all kow-towing will end, with prejudice as they say in court. I don't think it will be white people leading that campaign, nor will they defend the negroes. That day is not too far off. 15 years? Not far at all.
    , @JMcG
    You know, thats a great point about blacks forming stable work crews. I’d never really thought about it before, but there’s a lot of truth to it. I don’t work directly with very many, but they tend to hang together with all the internal cohesion of a group of middle school girls.
    , @AceDeuce
    ,,,,"their slavery built America. "

    Blacks did a half assed job performing menial tasks in a handful of Southern states.
  12. I’m assuming Black-Centrism is still feeding off energy from the 1960s. Like how most contemporary US Presidents were born in 1946, Blacks were able to co-op into the reining political command structure of the last 50+ years. It’ll take time until more Latin faces will show up in the next power cycle. While with a dwindling black population and continuous loss of prime urban real estate, blacks will sit in the back of the power block bus.

    It probably doesn’t help that most Millennial white liberals were raised on the horror stories of David Dinkins, Coleman Young, and *sniff sniff* Mayor Barry. Black obsession is partially the result of fear and awe.

    I read this book over the summer, it has aged quite well. It sheds some light into the neurotic mind of urban Millennials who grew up in the 1980s-1990s. (Maybe the protagonist’s young daughter from “Bondfire of the Vanities” learned a few things after the legal ordeal.)

    https://www.amazon.com/Future-Once-Happened-Here-L/dp/1893554104

    • Replies: @Travis
    Mestizos are still not part of the power structure in Latin America and will never displace the conquistadors who rule these nations. Doubtful that the mestizos in the United States will ever exert much political power. Blacks have obtained political power because they are backed by jews and whites. Without the support of millions of whites they would rapidly lose their power and influence.

    The Black population is not dwindling in America. back in 1950 the black population was 10%. It reached 12% in 1980 and his now 14% of the population. The number of Blacks has doubled since 1970 , from 22 million in 1970 to 44 million in 2015. While the Black population is growing , we will see their power reduced as the white population in America falls below 50%. With less whites to support the Black power centers and more Asians and hispanics who do not feel responsible for Blacks failures, Blacks will lose political power as American becomes less white and more Asian and Latino, but they will soon be 15% of the US population, partly due to white females having black children.
  13. Nobody mentions Jews own Hollywood, so blame the Jews.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    "Nobody mentions Jews own Hollywood, so blame the Jews."

    Indeed. And it's "conservative" American audiences who get blamed for Hollywood biases rather than the people in charge. American audiences get blamed for the fact that the British only get mentioned once (negatively) in Saving Private Ryan, but that movie's producer/director was a liberal Jew. Same goes for U-571, which stole its plot from an actual British exploit.

    Honestly I'm ready for Hollywood to start casting non-white actors in all its roles. Maybe only then will whites realize they need to stop taking their instructions from Hollywood and listen to people who actually care about them, like their parents. Many or most of the people running Hollywood are enemies pretending to be our friends.
  14. @Mr McKenna
    Have them go see Hollywood's film version of Edna Ferber's GIANT.

    Starring no less than Liz Taylor, Rock Hudson, and James Dean.
    Made no less than 64 years ago now.

    GIANT morphs from an epic family drama into an endless harangue about race relations and 'white privilege' although they didn't call it that in the 1950s. Guess what? Racism and sexism are really bad. In case you aren't sure, GIANT spends three hours repeatedly hammering this point home, over and over.

    Significantly for the current discussion, the film is concerned with Mexicans only and the blacks in the film remain in properly subservient roles. I guess we pick and choose our lessons. By the end (it finally does end), Liz delivers the final speech, wherein she declares that by beating up some evil racists, Rock has finally become her hero. Wow, that took a while.

    Dean's Jett Rink ends up being the bad guy. You'll root for him.

    GIANT morphs from an epic family drama into an endless harangue about race relations and ‘white privilege’ although they didn’t call it that in the 1950s. Guess what? Racism and sexism are really bad. In case you aren’t sure, GIANT spends three hours repeatedly hammering this point home, over and over.

    Mr. McKenna, i sense some displeasure at getting yet another lecture on the very, bad, bad, racist, racism of white gentiles … from the people who kept themselves meticulously racially separate and refused to integrate with their neighbors for the last 3000 years.

    I think you must be a racist.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Mea Culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima....

    The point of the story, sort of, was that 'Hollywood' was already in full-tilt propaganda mode 70 years ago. And I haven't even mentioned the earlier "Gentlemen's Agreement" wherein the lesson was that you (goyim) must instantly resort to physical violence at the slightest hint of anti-semitism among your compadres.

    Or a few thousand other such films. This has been going on for a very, very long time. How on earth can it be that it hasn't stuck yet? Isn't our Glorious Victory in sight? Must be very close.

    , @Jack D
    The people who are lecturing you about racism drink their own Kool-Aid. Their ANCESTORS refused to integrate, but they integrate like crazy, so if they have any future descendants (many won't) they won't be part of their ancestor's people. They look upon their own ancestors (and those who have not abandoned their path) as racist, sexist religious fanatics. It's part of the anti-Semite's sleight of hand that you conflate all Jews together - religious and non-religious, bankers and Bolsheviks, etc.
  15. What percentage of Hollywood producers are Latino?

    What percentage of Hollywood producers other than Jewish?

    Rhetorical.

  16. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    It would be more meaningful if this yet-another-study would break this down into "Latino" and "Conquistador." What we really have are American Indians and Iberian Europeans. Most of the directors and producers who are "Latino" or "Hispanic" are probably just what we really should stop calling Hispanic, and just call White.

    The moviegoers, though must include lots of Indians, who are not known for actively caring much about politico-socio hairsplitting anyway. Let them enjoy the movies. If they went to Harvard Medical School, they probably wouldn't be bothered by pictures of White doctors on the walls.

    American Indian "Latinos" are sounding better and better.

    American Indian “Latinos” are sounding better and better.

    That makes about as much sense as ‘American Indian Anglo’.

    The brown natives of the Americas have a history going back 1,000s 0f yrs before Latino whites came. Calling them ‘latino’ or ‘hispanic’ is to deny their deep roots prior to the European conquest. It really must stop. Africa was under European rule but we still call Africans ‘Africans’. Calling browns of ‘Latin America’ as ‘latino’ is like calling blacks of South Africa ‘anglo’ or ‘dutch’.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    I agree. When I say they are sounding better and better, I mean that I like how they don't seem to care or complain about things like seeing White people in the movies. It is the Iberian Europeans in America who use them as always and lead the political activity. At least that is what I have learned in iSteve College.

    They are Indians, and their ruling class is White.
    , @Jack D
    In S. Africa, there is a name for people of mixed race - they are called coloured and are culturally (and under Apartheid were legally) distinct from blacks.

    Likewise, most Mexicans and other Latinos are also not pure Indios but rather are themselves mixed race people. In their native lands, there was once an elaborate vocabulary to distinguished all the types and degrees of mixed race people, just like Inuit (supposedly but not really) had many different words for different types of snow, but when they get here they are all "Latinos" whether they are 100% European or 100% Indian or anything in between. Most (unless they are relatively recent immigrants from Lebanon or Europe) are in-between - even the "whites" usually have a significant % of Indian ancestry (a lot more than Liz Warren) and the brown masses have some white blood, especially in their paternal lineage and they identify with European culture and religion and not Indian customs.

    This conflation causes a lot of confusion. When we say "Mexicans in Hollywood" the few that are there are mostly from the white upper classes and not from the brownish mixed race masses who form the bulk of Latinos in America.

    , @Hypnotoad666

    Calling them ‘latino’ or ‘hispanic’ is to deny their deep roots prior to the European conquest.
     
    That's exactly what they don't care about. And good for them. They mostly just think of themselves as "people."

    Should we call them,"Aztec-Americans?"

    The fact is, they speak Spanish, have Spanish DNA, and are more Catholic than Spaniards.

    , @Whitemanzen
    Latinos would be the descendants of Spaniards. Hispanic is a made up term no one in Latin America uses. Indians can never be Latinos.
  17. Well it’s Hollywood’s loss. All the profits from Latinx-produced blockbuster films coming out of Guatemala, Peru, and El Salvador could have been theirs had that not been so short-sighted and discriminatory.

  18. @AnotherDad

    GIANT morphs from an epic family drama into an endless harangue about race relations and ‘white privilege’ although they didn’t call it that in the 1950s. Guess what? Racism and sexism are really bad. In case you aren’t sure, GIANT spends three hours repeatedly hammering this point home, over and over.
     
    Mr. McKenna, i sense some displeasure at getting yet another lecture on the very, bad, bad, racist, racism of white gentiles ... from the people who kept themselves meticulously racially separate and refused to integrate with their neighbors for the last 3000 years.

    I think you must be a racist.

    Mea Culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima….

    The point of the story, sort of, was that ‘Hollywood’ was already in full-tilt propaganda mode 70 years ago. And I haven’t even mentioned the earlier “Gentlemen’s Agreement” wherein the lesson was that you (goyim) must instantly resort to physical violence at the slightest hint of anti-semitism among your compadres.

    Or a few thousand other such films. This has been going on for a very, very long time. How on earth can it be that it hasn’t stuck yet? Isn’t our Glorious Victory in sight? Must be very close.

    • Replies: @David 'The Diversity Mastermind' Lammey
    ". And I haven’t even mentioned the earlier “Gentlemen’s Agreement” wherein the lesson was that you (goyim) must instantly resort to physical violence at the slightest hint of anti-semitism among your compadres"

    ...or abandon professional standards of confidentiality
  19. @Anonymous

    American Indian “Latinos” are sounding better and better.
     
    That makes about as much sense as 'American Indian Anglo'.

    The brown natives of the Americas have a history going back 1,000s 0f yrs before Latino whites came. Calling them 'latino' or 'hispanic' is to deny their deep roots prior to the European conquest. It really must stop. Africa was under European rule but we still call Africans 'Africans'. Calling browns of 'Latin America' as 'latino' is like calling blacks of South Africa 'anglo' or 'dutch'.

    I agree. When I say they are sounding better and better, I mean that I like how they don’t seem to care or complain about things like seeing White people in the movies. It is the Iberian Europeans in America who use them as always and lead the political activity. At least that is what I have learned in iSteve College.

    They are Indians, and their ruling class is White.

  20. anonymous[960] • Disclaimer says:

    Blacks were brought to this country against their will in numbers that were unsustainable assuming that their savage/child-like nature would one day be given the opportunity to complain. Mexicans and East-Asians came to this country solely by choice and their descendants more or less have accepted the nice things the white majority has provided. Sub-Continental’s came to this country by choice because of the nice things whites have provided and yet ………………………………………….

  21. Do Hispanics see Cameroon Diaz, Salma Hayek, Charlie Sheen , Freddie Prinze Jnr. and many other white Hispanic actors/actresses as Hispanic? Or do they only consider Dany Trejo as Hispanic?

    Since white Hispanics are still considered Hispanic, would white Hispanic audiences feel represented by non-Hispanic white actors/actresses ? Or do the actors/actresses need to have Iberian names? Martin and Charlie Sheen don’t though, despite being Hispanic. No one thinks Hollywood needs to have actors/actresses with Celtic names for Irish Americans to be represented, they are just assumed to be represented by mainstream white actors/actresses.

    • Replies: @Prodigal son
    Mexicans see themselves as Mexican not Cuban or Dominican etc...Just as Puerto Ricans do not identify with Mexicans. The Hispanic category is not a real identity for most Latinos.

    Most Mexicans self-identify as white. One reason all the advertisements in Mexico use whites to sell their products, being white is a sign of ones class and most Mexicans aspire to be upwardly mobile and become part of the middle class , to become more white...this is why TV shows in Latin America focus on upper class whites. Even Mexican cinema rarely has mestizo actors , and the few mestizo actresses are hired to play maids.

    Charlie Sheen is not viewed as Hispanic by Mexicans or Cubans or Puerto Ricans. Nor does Charlie Sheen identify as Hispanic.
  22. @J.Ross
    Would Hispanics be significantly more comfortable watching people from outside their group in entertainments because of a stronger internal sense of culture and identity, whereas black striving and camera-hogging is pretty much them making a culture and identity on the fly? Are Africans in Africa measurably cooler with watching non-Africans than our blacks?

    They are not ours. They are yours.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    How the hell are they mine and how do I get rid of them?
  23. I don’t understand the problem.

    Why don’t Latinos just sneak onscreen?

    Works for everything else.

  24. Hollywood has an easy out: one can never tell just exactly how white these browns are.

  25. @Mr McKenna
    Have them go see Hollywood's film version of Edna Ferber's GIANT.

    Starring no less than Liz Taylor, Rock Hudson, and James Dean.
    Made no less than 64 years ago now.

    GIANT morphs from an epic family drama into an endless harangue about race relations and 'white privilege' although they didn't call it that in the 1950s. Guess what? Racism and sexism are really bad. In case you aren't sure, GIANT spends three hours repeatedly hammering this point home, over and over.

    Significantly for the current discussion, the film is concerned with Mexicans only and the blacks in the film remain in properly subservient roles. I guess we pick and choose our lessons. By the end (it finally does end), Liz delivers the final speech, wherein she declares that by beating up some evil racists, Rock has finally become her hero. Wow, that took a while.

    Dean's Jett Rink ends up being the bad guy. You'll root for him.

    Well, Jimmy messes around with Rock and Liz’s younger daughter apparently because he wants in on that Taylor action.

    I like how Rock has a seven-hour fistfight inside a chicken joint because they don’t want to serve his dusky family members, or something like that.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    "Giant" is an odd movie. It starts out like it's going to be an epic drama, but it eventually turns into a moderately amusing satire on Texans, eventually settling on how Texans have to be less bigoted against Mexicans. To play The Mexican, the movie bravely hired Sal Mineo, a gay Italian. After all, there were never any famous gay Italians before in history.
  26. I have noticed a lack of blacks on Spanish-language television stations.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    I have noticed a lack of blacks on Spanish-language television stations.
     
    Or small-breasted ugly women.

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/83/d6/53/83d65363bc02e099ae429510c559b119--jackie-guerrido-universe.jpg

    I ♥️ Latina women!
    , @simple_pseudonymic_handle
    I had a Nicaraguan friend who was fond of dismissing Mexican television because of the abundance of blonde actresses.
    , @danand

    SAN BRUNO (CBS SF) — San Bruno police said 46-year-old Wilfredo Amaya, 46-year-old Haydee Arguello, and 49-year-old Luisandor Suarez have been booked into San Mateo County Jail for numerous felony charges related to committing a hate crime, kidnapping, assault with a deadly weapon and criminal threats.

    The boy told police he was visiting a juvenile female acquaintance at her home, when members of the female’s family arrived at about 2:30 a.m. The suspects are Hispanic while the alleged victim is African-American.

    The boy told police that “throughout the attack, the suspects yelled at him using multiple racial slurs, and he believed his race to be a motivating factor in the attack.

     

    Paul, just another example of how the coalition of the majority (in California) is under attack. As you noticed they’re just not accepting/inclusive enough.

    https://cbsloc.al/2Hl9hPy
  27. But even in Latin America most soap opera stars are white or mostly white, so, even Amerindians don’t want to see Amerindians on screen. I don’t know why. Maybe they are mostly boring, like that character in “Roma”. Amerindian passiveness is the opposite of drama?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriela_Spanic

    • Replies: @Jack D
    The actors in Bollywood movies (especially the females) are also several shades whiter than most Indians. Lighter skin is associated with youth and beauty in almost all cultures (except perhaps parts of Africa where it is out of reach). Skin lightening creams are a huge business all over Asia, both East and South.

    Even in the US and Europe, being tan was once associated with being a farmer or other outdoor occupations and was a sign of being low class. Air travel really inverted the situation - in the early days only the rich could afford to fly down to Florida and play tennis and golf outdoors in the winter - therefore having a tan became associated with being wealthy rather than poor.
  28. @South Texas Guy
    It's actually kind of weird. Hispanics are capable of quality entertainment in their own countries, but here it's like the desert. I took a Mexican-American lit class in grad school and they were really reaching for the bottom.

    South America and Mexico have great writers in their own right (may not be to your taste) but none have migrated to the US. There is literally no good South of the border writer in America.

    It could be that writing in Spanish and writing in English is different, also that Anglo (is America still anglo?) culture is different from Latin American. Most famous writers in Latin America write in Spanish, and even Isabel Allende, who lives in the U.S., writes in Spanish.

    But I think the main reason really is that mostly low-class (low IQ?) Latin Americans migrate to the U.S., middle class or people with a higher education level either stay in their own countries as they can have a more comfortable life there, or if they migrate, they prefer Europe (Spain, France) which had a tradition of receiving Latin American intellectual exiles in the 70s. Some now migrate to Canada too.

  29. Latinos probably figure Whites and Asians are going to get tired of Blacks, then they’ll just take over.

  30. But they build all of the sets! What, do they want to do everything??

  31. @guest
    Well, Jimmy messes around with Rock and Liz's younger daughter apparently because he wants in on that Taylor action.

    I like how Rock has a seven-hour fistfight inside a chicken joint because they don't want to serve his dusky family members, or something like that.

    http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2013-01-08-giant.jpg

    “Giant” is an odd movie. It starts out like it’s going to be an epic drama, but it eventually turns into a moderately amusing satire on Texans, eventually settling on how Texans have to be less bigoted against Mexicans. To play The Mexican, the movie bravely hired Sal Mineo, a gay Italian. After all, there were never any famous gay Italians before in history.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown

    “Giant” is an odd movie. It starts out like it’s going to be an epic drama, but it eventually turns into a moderately amusing satire on Texans, eventually settling on how Texans have to be less bigoted against Mexicans.
     
    Sort of like the Bush Family Dynasty.
    , @Anon55uu
    My immediate reaction to seeing this was: what happened to Sal Mineo? Looking into it he was murdered in 1976 near his disgusting apartment off sunset boulevard. James Ellroy has written a long piece from the investigating cops’ point of view in the Hollywood reporter (it’s online). Mineo seems to have had an extremely active social life, but that line of enquiry led to a total blank, the killer turning out to have been a black career criminal who’d been snitched on and got released in 2000. I wonder whether the investigation would hold up now at all.
  32. Charles Darwin, in his ‘Origin of Species’ noted the quiet, modest, taciturn nature of Amerindians and contrasted this with the loud, boisterous extrovert nature of the blacks he encountered in Latin America.

  33. Maybe the problem is just that Hispanics in general are not very assertive. As an example, in Dallas Hispanics are the largest ethnic group (38% in the county and 42% in the city). Blacks are only 22 and 25% respectively. Yet the mayor of Dallas, the city manager (who actually runs the city), the police chief, the county sheriff, and the district attorney are all Black.

  34. How many of these “Hispanic” actors are actually Spaniards from across the Atlantic? Antonio Banderas, Javier Bardem, Penelope Cruz, etc.

  35. I have guessed that we haven’t gotten a large influx of latino actors and less complaints about the lack of latino actors because they still want to keep the diversity discussion a white/black thing in order to prevent a high level latino/black squabble over representation.

  36. Perhaps Latino movie stars are traumatized by historical Hollywood portraiture.

    Those privileged Hollywood stars seem to stare through you with an accusatory gaze. If those publicity photos magically came to life, I wonder what they would say?
    “You don’t belong here. You’ll never make it in this town! The pictures are for beautiful white cis-hetero people only.”
    Historical portraiture is a lurking menace, oppressing the most seemingly high achieving and well adjusted members of our society.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    Rita Hayworth is Hispanic. Dummesel.
    , @Anon
    Well, I can guess what Margarita Carmen Cansino would say.

    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/[email protected]@._V1_UY1200_CR167,0,630,1200_AL_.jpg
  37. What would the percentages be if they broke down Hispanics into their sub categories?

    How many actors and directors come from native stock vs. European stock?

  38. Central Americans of mostly indigenous ancestry think of themselves as white. When they watch white people in movies, they see themselves. Maybe in a slightly aspirational way. When they see an advertisement full of laughing white people, it doesn’t occur to them that they aren’t mestizos.

    Hair dressers who deal with Hispanics know that recognizing their Indio admixture is a grave insult.

    • Agree: Prodigal son
  39. Maybe they’re all watching Telemundo and Univision; they have a separate culture and are happy with it. American movies are mostly crap, and they’re not even in Spanish.

    • Agree: Alden
  40. @Mr McKenna
    Have them go see Hollywood's film version of Edna Ferber's GIANT.

    Starring no less than Liz Taylor, Rock Hudson, and James Dean.
    Made no less than 64 years ago now.

    GIANT morphs from an epic family drama into an endless harangue about race relations and 'white privilege' although they didn't call it that in the 1950s. Guess what? Racism and sexism are really bad. In case you aren't sure, GIANT spends three hours repeatedly hammering this point home, over and over.

    Significantly for the current discussion, the film is concerned with Mexicans only and the blacks in the film remain in properly subservient roles. I guess we pick and choose our lessons. By the end (it finally does end), Liz delivers the final speech, wherein she declares that by beating up some evil racists, Rock has finally become her hero. Wow, that took a while.

    Dean's Jett Rink ends up being the bad guy. You'll root for him.

    Thank you for that quick review, Mr. McKenna. I’m serious about that. I could have picked this movie out from the library some time and gotten pissed off when I got that far into the movie to hit up against this 64 y/o PC. Recently, I had to go to my 3rd and final movie to not run into this shit (luckily early on, to where I had time to revert to back-ups)

    Off of Peak Stupidity: Tried to watch a movie – here’s 3 reviews in one!

  41. Who says you need speaking roles to be a striking character? Them twins from Breaking Bad come to mind, never speak a word yet manage to look menacing

  42. @Kronos
    I’m assuming Black-Centrism is still feeding off energy from the 1960s. Like how most contemporary US Presidents were born in 1946, Blacks were able to co-op into the reining political command structure of the last 50+ years. It'll take time until more Latin faces will show up in the next power cycle. While with a dwindling black population and continuous loss of prime urban real estate, blacks will sit in the back of the power block bus.

    It probably doesn’t help that most Millennial white liberals were raised on the horror stories of David Dinkins, Coleman Young, and *sniff sniff* Mayor Barry. Black obsession is partially the result of fear and awe.

    I read this book over the summer, it has aged quite well. It sheds some light into the neurotic mind of urban Millennials who grew up in the 1980s-1990s. (Maybe the protagonist’s young daughter from “Bondfire of the Vanities” learned a few things after the legal ordeal.)

    https://www.amazon.com/Future-Once-Happened-Here-L/dp/1893554104

    Mestizos are still not part of the power structure in Latin America and will never displace the conquistadors who rule these nations. Doubtful that the mestizos in the United States will ever exert much political power. Blacks have obtained political power because they are backed by jews and whites. Without the support of millions of whites they would rapidly lose their power and influence.

    The Black population is not dwindling in America. back in 1950 the black population was 10%. It reached 12% in 1980 and his now 14% of the population. The number of Blacks has doubled since 1970 , from 22 million in 1970 to 44 million in 2015. While the Black population is growing , we will see their power reduced as the white population in America falls below 50%. With less whites to support the Black power centers and more Asians and hispanics who do not feel responsible for Blacks failures, Blacks will lose political power as American becomes less white and more Asian and Latino, but they will soon be 15% of the US population, partly due to white females having black children.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    My bad, I meant blacks getting swamped population wise.
    , @Alden
    Another sad old virgin bachelor heard from.

    Three Questions

    1. How many White children have you bred and raised?

    2 Where in the world do you live that you see so many White mothers with black kids?

    3 Are you gay?
  43. @AnotherDad

    GIANT morphs from an epic family drama into an endless harangue about race relations and ‘white privilege’ although they didn’t call it that in the 1950s. Guess what? Racism and sexism are really bad. In case you aren’t sure, GIANT spends three hours repeatedly hammering this point home, over and over.
     
    Mr. McKenna, i sense some displeasure at getting yet another lecture on the very, bad, bad, racist, racism of white gentiles ... from the people who kept themselves meticulously racially separate and refused to integrate with their neighbors for the last 3000 years.

    I think you must be a racist.

    The people who are lecturing you about racism drink their own Kool-Aid. Their ANCESTORS refused to integrate, but they integrate like crazy, so if they have any future descendants (many won’t) they won’t be part of their ancestor’s people. They look upon their own ancestors (and those who have not abandoned their path) as racist, sexist religious fanatics. It’s part of the anti-Semite’s sleight of hand that you conflate all Jews together – religious and non-religious, bankers and Bolsheviks, etc.

    • Replies: @istevefan

    Their ANCESTORS refused to integrate, but they integrate like crazy, so if they have any future descendants (many won’t) they won’t be part of their ancestor’s people. They look upon their own ancestors (and those who have not abandoned their path) as racist, sexist religious fanatics. It’s part of the anti-Semite’s sleight of hand that you conflate all Jews together – religious and non-religious, bankers and Bolsheviks, etc.
     
    Then why do they only denounce Whites for racism and not Jews? If they look upon their own ancestors as racist, sexist religious fanatics, why are their attacks not directed against Jews, but rather Whites instead?
  44. What would this article say about something like Danny Trejo, the son of Mexican immigrants, in the film Desperado, where his character has about 20 minutes of screen time and doesn’t say a word?

  45. If it weren’t for “Narcos” would be close to zero.

    Anthony Quinn; Greek Irish but played Latin and Italians all the time.

    • Replies: @Bugg
    Correction; Quinn was Irish-Mexican; Zorba and whatnot.
    , @Whitemanzen
    Anthony Quinn was Mexican.
  46. @Bugg
    If it weren't for "Narcos" would be close to zero.

    Anthony Quinn; Greek Irish but played Latin and Italians all the time.

    Correction; Quinn was Irish-Mexican; Zorba and whatnot.

    • Replies: @Whitemanzen
    Antonio Rodolfo Quinn Oaxaca
    April 21, 1915
    Chihuahua, Mexico
  47. I know that there are a lot of confounding factors, but part of me wants to believe that it is just because they are darker-skinned than Hispanics. That it should be counted as a simple process, among other examples of signaling theory, like a peacock having bright feathers or a flower attracting a bee.

    But maybe it is not so? Who is tops in Europe? Is it Muslims or blacks?

  48. “The disparity is even more glaring considering that the movie business is centered in Los Angeles, where Latinos make up 49% of the population.”

    Studies also found that 99% of American movies are produced by companies based in Los Angeles, despite the fact that Los Angeles Metro comprises only 4% of America’s population, and is not ethnically, racially, religiously, or politically representative of that population.

    There are things you unimportant little people living in flyover country are supposed to care about and things you aren’t supposed to even notice, and we, the good and the great, will tell you peons which is which.

    • Replies: @JimB

    There are things you unimportant little people living in flyover country are supposed to care about and things you aren’t supposed to even notice, and we, the good and the great, will tell you peons which is which.
     
    I’m all for more Latinos in film if they can make better stuff than the clapped-out mega-corporations and incestuous production networks of Hollywood. Figuratively speaking, everything is shit coming out of the major studios, even the stuff that is praised like Once Upon a Time In Hollywood. It could be that moviegoers in an ultra diverse society have so little in common that there is no way to create a unified sense of what constitutes quality entertainment embedded in a hopeful worldview. As a result, everything is a downer, the dialog is straight out of a juvenile creative writing assignment, and the plots seem like they were constructed out of tinker toys by a hyperactive eight year old. Arguably, it’s because Hispanics make up so much of the audience that movies are made this way.
  49. Vdare is kicked off of YouTube because the ADL says Steve Sailer is racist. Derbyshire gets a passing mention, but it’s mostly Sailer who the anonymous Adler doesn’t like.

  50. @Clyde
    Generalizing of course...... Hispanics are fairly content to go along with the social and racial pecking order. My town athletic field is converting one field to artificial turf and all the grunts are Hispanic. They can plug away all day at it. You could never get blacks to do this work be they American or immigrants. Partly because they are incapable of being sociable enough to form stable work crews that work on project after project.

    Blacks these days are the big bad rebels coming up with bs such as their slavery built America. Aided and abetted by nitwit libs-leftists, or you would never see the 1619 project. Blacks are more prominent and respected these days due them doing great and pulling in millions in sports ball and show business. Money talks, so when there are so many super rich blacks, blacks as a whole get respect. As far as black intellectual achievements, what a joke. Though via very pushy AA policies there are numerous black professors these days, mostly teaching useless stuff. Zero STEM for them. But they love them university .Edu and black grievance studies slots.

    Clyde, You write that “Blacks are more prominent and respected these days due them doing great and pulling in millions in sports ball and show business. Money talks, so when there are so many super rich blacks, blacks as a whole get respect.”. I suppose it depends on how “Respect” is defined. The athletes are surely respected on the field of play for their extraordinary skill and tenacious desire to win, but off the field? It all depends on their conduct. The non performer types (like Jay Z and Al Sharpton, and Barack Obama these days) are feared more than respected. Cross them and your career may be over. The academic types (like the civil servant class, say Mayor Pugh in Baltimore) are envied, not respected. That crew has a rice bowl and a soft bed, and cannot be moved without dire consequences.

    The whole black race paradigm in the US is very fragile. Outside of sports and a bit of entertainment performance, there is nothing that black people contribute to the common weal that would be much missed if it were no longer available, not even by blacks. When the non-blacks in America lose their fear of black unrest, it will be but a short moment until all kow-towing will end, with prejudice as they say in court. I don’t think it will be white people leading that campaign, nor will they defend the negroes. That day is not too far off. 15 years? Not far at all.

  51. I call on all local TV stations to start airing Zorro, The Cisco Kid, and Speedy Gonzales cartoons instead of Wheel of Fortune.

  52. @Anonymous
    Nobody mentions Jews own Hollywood, so blame the Jews.

    “Nobody mentions Jews own Hollywood, so blame the Jews.”

    Indeed. And it’s “conservative” American audiences who get blamed for Hollywood biases rather than the people in charge. American audiences get blamed for the fact that the British only get mentioned once (negatively) in Saving Private Ryan, but that movie’s producer/director was a liberal Jew. Same goes for U-571, which stole its plot from an actual British exploit.

    Honestly I’m ready for Hollywood to start casting non-white actors in all its roles. Maybe only then will whites realize they need to stop taking their instructions from Hollywood and listen to people who actually care about them, like their parents. Many or most of the people running Hollywood are enemies pretending to be our friends.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    This is certainly a new situation. It's not like Jews have been running Hollywood studios from Day 1. Oh, no wait, they have.

    You and Mel Gibson can go and make your own white friendly Jew free movies and put them in the theaters and if this is what people want to see they will flock to them and all the Jew owned studios will have to go out of business.
  53. @South Texas Guy
    It's actually kind of weird. Hispanics are capable of quality entertainment in their own countries, but here it's like the desert. I took a Mexican-American lit class in grad school and they were really reaching for the bottom.

    South America and Mexico have great writers in their own right (may not be to your taste) but none have migrated to the US. There is literally no good South of the border writer in America.

    There were times when different parts of Latin America were politically unstable and their great writers had to leave and some ended up in the US (e.g. Isabel Allende) . But for the most part, Latin authors are part of the white upper class and live comfortable lives back home, maybe more comfortably than they could afford here. I think people here have the wrong impression of what Mexico is like based upon places like Tijuana. The fancier neighborhoods of Mexico City have boutiques and upscale restaurants, etc. that are as nice as those found anywhere. And these countries have universities and an intellectual life, while most cultured Latinos (the kind who write books) consider most of American culture to be philistine. As far as they are concerned, as long as the political situation permits it, they have literally no reason to want to live in the US. (Isabel Allende moved here because she married an American but she could move back to Chile now if she wanted to).

    And the Mexicans we get here are mostly mixed race and poor and not likely to write great literature. If they grow up and are educated in the US, they are immersed in modern American grievance culture and the stuff that they write reflects this so it’s agitprop and not literature.

    • Replies: @Marty
    Jack, serious question: could a Sausalito lawyer named Bill Gordon possibly be Jewish?
  54. @Wilkey
    "Nobody mentions Jews own Hollywood, so blame the Jews."

    Indeed. And it's "conservative" American audiences who get blamed for Hollywood biases rather than the people in charge. American audiences get blamed for the fact that the British only get mentioned once (negatively) in Saving Private Ryan, but that movie's producer/director was a liberal Jew. Same goes for U-571, which stole its plot from an actual British exploit.

    Honestly I'm ready for Hollywood to start casting non-white actors in all its roles. Maybe only then will whites realize they need to stop taking their instructions from Hollywood and listen to people who actually care about them, like their parents. Many or most of the people running Hollywood are enemies pretending to be our friends.

    This is certainly a new situation. It’s not like Jews have been running Hollywood studios from Day 1. Oh, no wait, they have.

    You and Mel Gibson can go and make your own white friendly Jew free movies and put them in the theaters and if this is what people want to see they will flock to them and all the Jew owned studios will have to go out of business.

    • Replies: @peterike

    You and Mel Gibson can go and make your own white friendly Jew free movies and put them in the theaters and if this is what people want to see they will flock to them and all the Jew owned studios will have to go out of business.
     
    Jackie Boy has got his Jewish up.
    , @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    You and Mel Gibson can go and make your own white friendly Jew free movies and put them in the theaters and if this is what people want to see they will flock to them and all the Jew owned studios will have to go out of business.

     

    We did go to see them

    Take The Searchers, for example

    Directed by John Ford, a white guy

    Starring a bunch of white actors

    Screenplay by Frank Nugent, a white guy

    Based on a novel by Alan Le May, a white guy

    Cinematography by Winton C. Hoch, a white guy

    Produced by C.V. Whitney Pictures - C.V. Whitney was an old WASP guy.

    The only Jewish involvement was the distribution - Warner Brothers - and the music, which was done by Max Steiner.

    I'm pretty sure we did, and could, get along again without the Jews. Or better yet, the Jews could simply "play ball," as they did before the trashy Pawn Broker movie, and agree to make movies under the Code again. Is it really a coincidence that Hollywood's "Golden Age" coincided with the Hays Production Code? Why, it's almost as if Hollywood was forced to make more artful movies since they couldn't simply sell smut....

    (The HPC came about because of Christian pressure, especially the influence of the Legion of Decency and bishops like Cardinal Dennis Dougherty)


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/SearchersPoster-BillGold.jpg

    , @Declane
    And with all their movie profits they can afford a plane ticket out of this country!

    Wonder if they'll take that option while they have it.
    , @Marcus
    Mel Gibson who made buddy cop movies with a kooky black activist actor; the second of which had apartheid South African white villains (Diplomatic Immunity!)??
  55. @Buzz Mohawk
    It would be more meaningful if this yet-another-study would break this down into "Latino" and "Conquistador." What we really have are American Indians and Iberian Europeans. Most of the directors and producers who are "Latino" or "Hispanic" are probably just what we really should stop calling Hispanic, and just call White.

    The moviegoers, though must include lots of Indians, who are not known for actively caring much about politico-socio hairsplitting anyway. Let them enjoy the movies. If they went to Harvard Medical School, they probably wouldn't be bothered by pictures of White doctors on the walls.

    American Indian "Latinos" are sounding better and better.

    We’ve been on a collision course with this obvious point, arguably since the category was created (“Hispanic”) but most recently in the last ten years with the increased desire for people to be “not white” (including the new proposed MENA category).

    Although there is a fair number of mixed marriages and parentage between (actual) Whites and Mestizos, there are also a fair number of White Hispanics with non-Hispanic Whites, and both categories are being called “Hispanic/Latino” and categorized as “not white”, in most cultural references–including those talking about the imminent demise of white people in the USA. Granted, there will be less Germanic (Anglo-Saxon, Jute) whites in the US in the future, and possibly less Celtic-identified (although N. Spain is Celtic), the reality is that a caste system similar to Brazil or, if you like, Louisiana in the CURRENT YEAR, has already developed.

    Everyone knows who is “white” and who isn’t. Even the most dark-eyed, medium skinned, brunette Latinos can be instantly recognized as whether they are “White” or “white enough” (Salma Hayek, Penelope Cruz [Spaniard], Eva Longoria, Jimmy Smitts, etc).

    The question is, will there be any calling out of White Hispanics when it comes to Affirmative Action (college entrances, government jobs), in the future. So far, there has not been and millions of white hispanics, many of whom have no cultural affiliation with the greater Latino/Hispanic culture, and who don’t speak Spanish, or don’t carry a recognizably ‘Spanish’ surname, continue to consider themselves “Hispanic” and/or “Latino”.

    It’s like being part of a Native American tribe without the burdens of proof basically.

    • Replies: @Alden
    Selma Hayek has no Spanish, Latin American Indian or any kind of Hispanic blood.

    Dad’s Czech (German). Mom’s a White Lebanese Christian ancient Canaanite, not Arab.

    She gets her coloring from Mom, that perfect face from Central European Dad.
  56. @Paul
    I have noticed a lack of blacks on Spanish-language television stations.

    I have noticed a lack of blacks on Spanish-language television stations.

    Or small-breasted ugly women.

    I ♥️ Latina women!

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    NYC has the seemingly ageless Audrey Puente, daughter of Tito

    https://youtu.be/c1PEczXSRqI
    , @syonredux

    I ♥️ Latina women!
     
    Really?

    https://l7.alamy.com/zooms/3abb44c5c239447a9705929d6e14f961/mayan-indigenous-woman-waiting-in-line-for-free-suplies-up-in-the-d2etct.jpg


    https://www.changemakers.com/sites/default/files/women_of_xetonox.jpg


    https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5130/5239124053_32d85339fd_b.jpg
  57. They have their own media and they really don’t care what’s on CNN and what is at the metroplex. The ones in my neighborhood look like they are much happier than the whites or the asians or the blacks.

    When Mexico beat Korea in the World Cup soccer there were a million firecrackers at 4:00 A.M. on a week day and I am pretty sure the story barely got two column inches in the new york times.

  58. @Dumbo
    But even in Latin America most soap opera stars are white or mostly white, so, even Amerindians don't want to see Amerindians on screen. I don't know why. Maybe they are mostly boring, like that character in "Roma". Amerindian passiveness is the opposite of drama?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriela_Spanic

    The actors in Bollywood movies (especially the females) are also several shades whiter than most Indians. Lighter skin is associated with youth and beauty in almost all cultures (except perhaps parts of Africa where it is out of reach). Skin lightening creams are a huge business all over Asia, both East and South.

    Even in the US and Europe, being tan was once associated with being a farmer or other outdoor occupations and was a sign of being low class. Air travel really inverted the situation – in the early days only the rich could afford to fly down to Florida and play tennis and golf outdoors in the winter – therefore having a tan became associated with being wealthy rather than poor.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    I can't recall seeing an advertisement, TV show, or movie in which the female in a black couple wasn't several shades lighter than the male. Often light enough to "pass."
    , @Jim Don Bob

    Even in the US and Europe, being tan was once associated with being a farmer or other outdoor occupations and was a sign of being low class.
     
    Right. In Pride and Prejudice, Caroline Bingly criticizes Elizabeth Bennett as looking "so coarse and brown".
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Rich, upper class whites seem to be careful not to get dark, despite spending a lot of time in the sun. Take Alice B-B, for example, who has written travel articles everywhere from the Persian Gulf to Central America. Nice healthy glow, but that's about it. A leathery-dark tan? No.
  59. @Jack D
    This is certainly a new situation. It's not like Jews have been running Hollywood studios from Day 1. Oh, no wait, they have.

    You and Mel Gibson can go and make your own white friendly Jew free movies and put them in the theaters and if this is what people want to see they will flock to them and all the Jew owned studios will have to go out of business.

    You and Mel Gibson can go and make your own white friendly Jew free movies and put them in the theaters and if this is what people want to see they will flock to them and all the Jew owned studios will have to go out of business.

    Jackie Boy has got his Jewish up.

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    Jack D is kind of like Fred Reed. Ordinarily, he's pretty good. However, when he gets up on his hobby horse...
  60. @Anonymous

    American Indian “Latinos” are sounding better and better.
     
    That makes about as much sense as 'American Indian Anglo'.

    The brown natives of the Americas have a history going back 1,000s 0f yrs before Latino whites came. Calling them 'latino' or 'hispanic' is to deny their deep roots prior to the European conquest. It really must stop. Africa was under European rule but we still call Africans 'Africans'. Calling browns of 'Latin America' as 'latino' is like calling blacks of South Africa 'anglo' or 'dutch'.

    In S. Africa, there is a name for people of mixed race – they are called coloured and are culturally (and under Apartheid were legally) distinct from blacks.

    Likewise, most Mexicans and other Latinos are also not pure Indios but rather are themselves mixed race people. In their native lands, there was once an elaborate vocabulary to distinguished all the types and degrees of mixed race people, just like Inuit (supposedly but not really) had many different words for different types of snow, but when they get here they are all “Latinos” whether they are 100% European or 100% Indian or anything in between. Most (unless they are relatively recent immigrants from Lebanon or Europe) are in-between – even the “whites” usually have a significant % of Indian ancestry (a lot more than Liz Warren) and the brown masses have some white blood, especially in their paternal lineage and they identify with European culture and religion and not Indian customs.

    This conflation causes a lot of confusion. When we say “Mexicans in Hollywood” the few that are there are mostly from the white upper classes and not from the brownish mixed race masses who form the bulk of Latinos in America.

  61. @Anonymous
    The late, great Charles Bronson sure played a mean Mexican.

    Rather ironically he was a Pole....

    How about that other great Mexican actor, Eli Wallach? And who can forget Marlon Brando as Emiliano Zapata or Yul Brynner, Telly Savalas, and Wallace Beery as Pancho Villa?

    No Hollywood film ever employed more actual Mexicans than Sam Peckinpah’s The Wild Bunch, though Wild Bunch member “Angel” was played by a Puerto Rican.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    Even the great Bill Dana ("Jose Jimenez") was a Hungarian.

    As is Louis CK-who claims Hispanicness or whatver it's called.
    , @duncsbaby
    The only great Mexican-American actor I can think of off the top of my head is Anthony Quinn & he usually played anything but a Mexican.
  62. @Jack D
    This is certainly a new situation. It's not like Jews have been running Hollywood studios from Day 1. Oh, no wait, they have.

    You and Mel Gibson can go and make your own white friendly Jew free movies and put them in the theaters and if this is what people want to see they will flock to them and all the Jew owned studios will have to go out of business.

    You and Mel Gibson can go and make your own white friendly Jew free movies and put them in the theaters and if this is what people want to see they will flock to them and all the Jew owned studios will have to go out of business.

    We did go to see them

    Take The Searchers, for example

    Directed by John Ford, a white guy

    Starring a bunch of white actors

    Screenplay by Frank Nugent, a white guy

    Based on a novel by Alan Le May, a white guy

    Cinematography by Winton C. Hoch, a white guy

    Produced by C.V. Whitney Pictures – C.V. Whitney was an old WASP guy.

    The only Jewish involvement was the distribution – Warner Brothers – and the music, which was done by Max Steiner.

    I’m pretty sure we did, and could, get along again without the Jews. Or better yet, the Jews could simply “play ball,” as they did before the trashy Pawn Broker movie, and agree to make movies under the Code again. Is it really a coincidence that Hollywood’s “Golden Age” coincided with the Hays Production Code? Why, it’s almost as if Hollywood was forced to make more artful movies since they couldn’t simply sell smut….

    (The HPC came about because of Christian pressure, especially the influence of the Legion of Decency and bishops like Cardinal Dennis Dougherty)

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Yes, thank God for the moral force of the Catholic Church in America. They saved us from Jew peddled smut and from child molestation. Oh no wait, maybe not the child molestation part.

    Where were the WASPs in all of this when the Catholics were telling the Jews what to do? When did WASP America start to abdicate running America and start letting loudmouth minorities set the agenda?
  63. @Steve Sailer
    "Giant" is an odd movie. It starts out like it's going to be an epic drama, but it eventually turns into a moderately amusing satire on Texans, eventually settling on how Texans have to be less bigoted against Mexicans. To play The Mexican, the movie bravely hired Sal Mineo, a gay Italian. After all, there were never any famous gay Italians before in history.

    “Giant” is an odd movie. It starts out like it’s going to be an epic drama, but it eventually turns into a moderately amusing satire on Texans, eventually settling on how Texans have to be less bigoted against Mexicans.

    Sort of like the Bush Family Dynasty.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Good one! (Used up my LOL.)
    , @Flip
    I notice that George P. Bush married a very blonde Anglo woman.
  64. The television network that features the most blondes after Fox News likely is likely Univision.

    • Agree: Prodigal son
  65. @Clifford Brown

    “Giant” is an odd movie. It starts out like it’s going to be an epic drama, but it eventually turns into a moderately amusing satire on Texans, eventually settling on how Texans have to be less bigoted against Mexicans.
     
    Sort of like the Bush Family Dynasty.

    Good one! (Used up my LOL.)

  66. @Jack D
    The actors in Bollywood movies (especially the females) are also several shades whiter than most Indians. Lighter skin is associated with youth and beauty in almost all cultures (except perhaps parts of Africa where it is out of reach). Skin lightening creams are a huge business all over Asia, both East and South.

    Even in the US and Europe, being tan was once associated with being a farmer or other outdoor occupations and was a sign of being low class. Air travel really inverted the situation - in the early days only the rich could afford to fly down to Florida and play tennis and golf outdoors in the winter - therefore having a tan became associated with being wealthy rather than poor.

    I can’t recall seeing an advertisement, TV show, or movie in which the female in a black couple wasn’t several shades lighter than the male. Often light enough to “pass.”

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    Well, the lead actress in Blackish is the daughter of a white man and Diana Ross.

    There was a show “Happy Together” for a while where the lead female role had a white father and a black mother.
  67. @Clifford Brown

    “Giant” is an odd movie. It starts out like it’s going to be an epic drama, but it eventually turns into a moderately amusing satire on Texans, eventually settling on how Texans have to be less bigoted against Mexicans.
     
    Sort of like the Bush Family Dynasty.

    I notice that George P. Bush married a very blonde Anglo woman.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Gotta backcross occasionally, keeps the phenotype looking good.
  68. Anthony Quinn was born in Chihuahua and won an Oscar. He had 12 kids and was part of the grievance class of Mexicans (la Raza), despite living large in Hollywood and consorting with mafiosi.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    Mustn't overlook Ricardo Montalban, Mexico City native of Spanish descent
  69. Isn’t this mainly an artifact of Hispanics having their own, Spanish language, media? If so, it’s a sign of lack of integration, but we really shouldn’t want them to integrate to current year American society—imagine if all mestizos became as whiny and entitled as blacks already are

  70. @Mr McKenna
    Mea Culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima....

    The point of the story, sort of, was that 'Hollywood' was already in full-tilt propaganda mode 70 years ago. And I haven't even mentioned the earlier "Gentlemen's Agreement" wherein the lesson was that you (goyim) must instantly resort to physical violence at the slightest hint of anti-semitism among your compadres.

    Or a few thousand other such films. This has been going on for a very, very long time. How on earth can it be that it hasn't stuck yet? Isn't our Glorious Victory in sight? Must be very close.

    “. And I haven’t even mentioned the earlier “Gentlemen’s Agreement” wherein the lesson was that you (goyim) must instantly resort to physical violence at the slightest hint of anti-semitism among your compadres”

    …or abandon professional standards of confidentiality

  71. You don’t see many because Hispanics have their own Spanish-language media companies that hoover up the talent. I imagine, though, that this will be used to leverage more diversity-based roles.

  72. Hispanics/Latin Americans/Brazilians and the Iberians who fathered them, the Portuguese and the Spanish, are SERIOUSLY uninteresting people – I should know because I am one of them myself.

    It also baffles me as to why anyone who doesn’t have direct professional dealings with us would be interested in learning Spanish (or Portuguese for that matter: both languages are roughly 80% identical). I always try to dissuade people and say, look, don’t bother, learn French, German, Russian, learn a civilized language, the Spanish/Portuguese-speaking world, except for half a dozen of writers, is a cultural and scientific desert, don’t waste your time.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    Depending on where you live, Spanish is an extremely practical language to know in the United States.
  73. @Harry Baldwin
    I can't recall seeing an advertisement, TV show, or movie in which the female in a black couple wasn't several shades lighter than the male. Often light enough to "pass."

    Well, the lead actress in Blackish is the daughter of a white man and Diana Ross.

    There was a show “Happy Together” for a while where the lead female role had a white father and a black mother.

  74. @Anonymous

    American Indian “Latinos” are sounding better and better.
     
    That makes about as much sense as 'American Indian Anglo'.

    The brown natives of the Americas have a history going back 1,000s 0f yrs before Latino whites came. Calling them 'latino' or 'hispanic' is to deny their deep roots prior to the European conquest. It really must stop. Africa was under European rule but we still call Africans 'Africans'. Calling browns of 'Latin America' as 'latino' is like calling blacks of South Africa 'anglo' or 'dutch'.

    Calling them ‘latino’ or ‘hispanic’ is to deny their deep roots prior to the European conquest.

    That’s exactly what they don’t care about. And good for them. They mostly just think of themselves as “people.”

    Should we call them,”Aztec-Americans?”

    The fact is, they speak Spanish, have Spanish DNA, and are more Catholic than Spaniards.

  75. @Paul
    I have noticed a lack of blacks on Spanish-language television stations.

    I had a Nicaraguan friend who was fond of dismissing Mexican television because of the abundance of blonde actresses.

  76. Well, Ana de Armas was in the Bladerunner remake 😉

    Seriously, who wants to see anything with a rotund, 4’10” Mixtec lead?

    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe
    Plain though they are, they still compare quite favorably to their black counterparts. They generally aren't shrieking obnoxious witches, and they can cook and clean and are very patient with children on average. Also, much more introverted than blacks.
  77. @anonymous
    Are East-Asian and Sub-Continental immigrants comfortable subjecting their children to Mexican-mestizo majority school districts? Or do they still have enough legacy majority suburbs to parasite off of ?

    In California, from my experience, East Asian and Indian immigrants rate school quality based on the percentage of Asian students, the higher the percentage, the better the school — and are unabashed at stating so in mixed workplaces. These are not controversial nor mean statements to them, just what is considered common sense. So black, brown, and white students are not enticements. Of course, Americans with Asian ancestry and raised here are Americans, and hence much more circumspect about it all — I haven’t heard any opinions from them on the matter.

  78. @Wilkey
    "The disparity is even more glaring considering that the movie business is centered in Los Angeles, where Latinos make up 49% of the population."

    Studies also found that 99% of American movies are produced by companies based in Los Angeles, despite the fact that Los Angeles Metro comprises only 4% of America's population, and is not ethnically, racially, religiously, or politically representative of that population.

    There are things you unimportant little people living in flyover country are supposed to care about and things you aren't supposed to even notice, and we, the good and the great, will tell you peons which is which.

    There are things you unimportant little people living in flyover country are supposed to care about and things you aren’t supposed to even notice, and we, the good and the great, will tell you peons which is which.

    I’m all for more Latinos in film if they can make better stuff than the clapped-out mega-corporations and incestuous production networks of Hollywood. Figuratively speaking, everything is shit coming out of the major studios, even the stuff that is praised like Once Upon a Time In Hollywood. It could be that moviegoers in an ultra diverse society have so little in common that there is no way to create a unified sense of what constitutes quality entertainment embedded in a hopeful worldview. As a result, everything is a downer, the dialog is straight out of a juvenile creative writing assignment, and the plots seem like they were constructed out of tinker toys by a hyperactive eight year old. Arguably, it’s because Hispanics make up so much of the audience that movies are made this way.

    • Replies: @Noman
    Hollywood is manufactured. The "critical" reviews are manufactured. Everything is a production for mass consumption. From Laurel Canyon to Studio City, instant rock bands, instant movie stars, instant celebrities with politically correct opinions, signaling virtue to the masses.
  79. @Jack D
    The people who are lecturing you about racism drink their own Kool-Aid. Their ANCESTORS refused to integrate, but they integrate like crazy, so if they have any future descendants (many won't) they won't be part of their ancestor's people. They look upon their own ancestors (and those who have not abandoned their path) as racist, sexist religious fanatics. It's part of the anti-Semite's sleight of hand that you conflate all Jews together - religious and non-religious, bankers and Bolsheviks, etc.

    Their ANCESTORS refused to integrate, but they integrate like crazy, so if they have any future descendants (many won’t) they won’t be part of their ancestor’s people. They look upon their own ancestors (and those who have not abandoned their path) as racist, sexist religious fanatics. It’s part of the anti-Semite’s sleight of hand that you conflate all Jews together – religious and non-religious, bankers and Bolsheviks, etc.

    Then why do they only denounce Whites for racism and not Jews? If they look upon their own ancestors as racist, sexist religious fanatics, why are their attacks not directed against Jews, but rather Whites instead?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    This is false too. The Left (which includes many secular Jews) attacks Israel, Netanyahu, religious Jews, etc. all the time. The NY Times runs exposes about sex abuse in the Orthodox community, etc. Naturally they don't attack "their own" - i.e. fellow Leftists, very often.
  80. @Mr McKenna
    Have them go see Hollywood's film version of Edna Ferber's GIANT.

    Starring no less than Liz Taylor, Rock Hudson, and James Dean.
    Made no less than 64 years ago now.

    GIANT morphs from an epic family drama into an endless harangue about race relations and 'white privilege' although they didn't call it that in the 1950s. Guess what? Racism and sexism are really bad. In case you aren't sure, GIANT spends three hours repeatedly hammering this point home, over and over.

    Significantly for the current discussion, the film is concerned with Mexicans only and the blacks in the film remain in properly subservient roles. I guess we pick and choose our lessons. By the end (it finally does end), Liz delivers the final speech, wherein she declares that by beating up some evil racists, Rock has finally become her hero. Wow, that took a while.

    Dean's Jett Rink ends up being the bad guy. You'll root for him.

    Do not mean to be overly picky but the Rock Hudson character actually gets his ass kicked by the owner of the diner who objected to serving Rock’s Tex-Mex daughter in law and child. The Liz Taylor character declares her love and admiration for her husband as he lay in the mashed potatoes and gravy to him later on that evening back at the ranch.

    Seeing that film in my youth led me to some conclusions about why my Anglo dad and Tex-Mex mom left Texas. I think they knew the kind of unpleasantness their children would encounter. Two of us are dark, the other two are pretty fair. Heard my mother say more than once she would never again live in Texas.

  81. Unlike the white/black distinction, the Hispanic race really is a “social construct.” If it were not for contemporary grievance politics and propaganda, Hispanics would not think of themselves as, and would not be thought of as, much different from ordinary white Americans.

    This goes doubly so for Asians, even though Asiatic actually is a race. Provided their numbers don’t swell indefinitely through immigration, our Asian contingents will intermarry and fade away into the white majority with hardly a disturbance.

    High immigration rates are a temporary artifact of globalism and, even though they seem like a permanent feature of the political landscape today, they will stop (and the quicker than most can imagine). In another hundred years, the descendants of today’s whites, Asians, and Hispanics will all be “white,” both culturally and phenotypically. Only the blacks will remain forever different.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    Serious question: precisely why will the blacks remain forever different? (And I agree that they will).
  82. upper and middle class mexicans ( and latin americans in general) are mostly white, jewish or arab christian , the same is true for most hispanics of south american or cuban anscetry who live in the USA

  83. @istevefan

    Their ANCESTORS refused to integrate, but they integrate like crazy, so if they have any future descendants (many won’t) they won’t be part of their ancestor’s people. They look upon their own ancestors (and those who have not abandoned their path) as racist, sexist religious fanatics. It’s part of the anti-Semite’s sleight of hand that you conflate all Jews together – religious and non-religious, bankers and Bolsheviks, etc.
     
    Then why do they only denounce Whites for racism and not Jews? If they look upon their own ancestors as racist, sexist religious fanatics, why are their attacks not directed against Jews, but rather Whites instead?

    This is false too. The Left (which includes many secular Jews) attacks Israel, Netanyahu, religious Jews, etc. all the time. The NY Times runs exposes about sex abuse in the Orthodox community, etc. Naturally they don’t attack “their own” – i.e. fellow Leftists, very often.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    I don't see what you are counting as attacks. From where I stand I don't see Jews getting anything close to the hatred and attacks currently happening to Whites. And when something does happen to Jews, the culprits are usually deplatformed either from social media, their jobs or both. At one extreme we just witnessed Congress this year taking action to pass a resolution after Jews took offense to some remarks. When was the last time Congress passed a resolution defending Whites?

    I think the Jews that have been attacked in the press have been attacked for being White, not Jewish. So it just reinforces the get Whitey nature of our current age.
  84. No one wants to hear from their janitors and fruit pickers. The help should be seen and not heard.

    Next.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    I once watched a ranching cousin in New Mexico go outside at about 7 am to instruct the huddled twenty or thirty Mexican hands as to what their day's work was to consist of. He talked; they listened.
    Not a word from any of them, even as they disappeared into the morning mist, presumably to do as they had been bidden.
    , @JimB

    No one wants to hear from their janitors and fruit pickers.
     
    That’s why they should be replaced with robots.
  85. @Jack D
    This is certainly a new situation. It's not like Jews have been running Hollywood studios from Day 1. Oh, no wait, they have.

    You and Mel Gibson can go and make your own white friendly Jew free movies and put them in the theaters and if this is what people want to see they will flock to them and all the Jew owned studios will have to go out of business.

    And with all their movie profits they can afford a plane ticket out of this country!

    Wonder if they’ll take that option while they have it.

  86. @Paul
    I have noticed a lack of blacks on Spanish-language television stations.

    SAN BRUNO (CBS SF) — San Bruno police said 46-year-old Wilfredo Amaya, 46-year-old Haydee Arguello, and 49-year-old Luisandor Suarez have been booked into San Mateo County Jail for numerous felony charges related to committing a hate crime, kidnapping, assault with a deadly weapon and criminal threats.

    The boy told police he was visiting a juvenile female acquaintance at her home, when members of the female’s family arrived at about 2:30 a.m. The suspects are Hispanic while the alleged victim is African-American.

    The boy told police that “throughout the attack, the suspects yelled at him using multiple racial slurs, and he believed his race to be a motivating factor in the attack.”

    Paul, just another example of how the coalition of the majority (in California) is under attack. As you noticed they’re just not accepting/inclusive enough.

    https://cbsloc.al/2Hl9hPy

  87. @greysquirrell
    Do Hispanics see Cameroon Diaz, Salma Hayek, Charlie Sheen , Freddie Prinze Jnr. and many other white Hispanic actors/actresses as Hispanic? Or do they only consider Dany Trejo as Hispanic?

    Since white Hispanics are still considered Hispanic, would white Hispanic audiences feel represented by non-Hispanic white actors/actresses ? Or do the actors/actresses need to have Iberian names? Martin and Charlie Sheen don't though, despite being Hispanic. No one thinks Hollywood needs to have actors/actresses with Celtic names for Irish Americans to be represented, they are just assumed to be represented by mainstream white actors/actresses.

    Mexicans see themselves as Mexican not Cuban or Dominican etc…Just as Puerto Ricans do not identify with Mexicans. The Hispanic category is not a real identity for most Latinos.

    Most Mexicans self-identify as white. One reason all the advertisements in Mexico use whites to sell their products, being white is a sign of ones class and most Mexicans aspire to be upwardly mobile and become part of the middle class , to become more white…this is why TV shows in Latin America focus on upper class whites. Even Mexican cinema rarely has mestizo actors , and the few mestizo actresses are hired to play maids.

    Charlie Sheen is not viewed as Hispanic by Mexicans or Cubans or Puerto Ricans. Nor does Charlie Sheen identify as Hispanic.

  88. @Jack D
    The actors in Bollywood movies (especially the females) are also several shades whiter than most Indians. Lighter skin is associated with youth and beauty in almost all cultures (except perhaps parts of Africa where it is out of reach). Skin lightening creams are a huge business all over Asia, both East and South.

    Even in the US and Europe, being tan was once associated with being a farmer or other outdoor occupations and was a sign of being low class. Air travel really inverted the situation - in the early days only the rich could afford to fly down to Florida and play tennis and golf outdoors in the winter - therefore having a tan became associated with being wealthy rather than poor.

    Even in the US and Europe, being tan was once associated with being a farmer or other outdoor occupations and was a sign of being low class.

    Right. In Pride and Prejudice, Caroline Bingly criticizes Elizabeth Bennett as looking “so coarse and brown”.

  89. Anon[696] • Disclaimer says:

    There’s a population of white-black mulatto activists who make a lot of noise and demand blacks get represented on TV, etc. The whites who married blacks quite often were extreme pro-black militants, and they passed this down to their offspring and beyond, since constant harping on the subject of black rights is the only way these mulatto offspring can get ahead in life when they’re competing against pure whites. These pairings have been going on since Civil War times.

    But this type of white militant activist hasn’t been marrying much into the Hispanic families that immigrated to the US post-1980s, so there are far fewer of them to make any noise. Your typical middle-class (or higher-class) white New England libtard refuses to marry their housemaid or lawn guy. Also, half- and quarter- Hispanics are more likely to start blending into white culture instead of constantly harping about how their mulatto blood needs a boost upward from whitey. They start looking white and their features start losing that Hispanic cast once they start crossbreeding.

  90. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    You and Mel Gibson can go and make your own white friendly Jew free movies and put them in the theaters and if this is what people want to see they will flock to them and all the Jew owned studios will have to go out of business.

     

    We did go to see them

    Take The Searchers, for example

    Directed by John Ford, a white guy

    Starring a bunch of white actors

    Screenplay by Frank Nugent, a white guy

    Based on a novel by Alan Le May, a white guy

    Cinematography by Winton C. Hoch, a white guy

    Produced by C.V. Whitney Pictures - C.V. Whitney was an old WASP guy.

    The only Jewish involvement was the distribution - Warner Brothers - and the music, which was done by Max Steiner.

    I'm pretty sure we did, and could, get along again without the Jews. Or better yet, the Jews could simply "play ball," as they did before the trashy Pawn Broker movie, and agree to make movies under the Code again. Is it really a coincidence that Hollywood's "Golden Age" coincided with the Hays Production Code? Why, it's almost as if Hollywood was forced to make more artful movies since they couldn't simply sell smut....

    (The HPC came about because of Christian pressure, especially the influence of the Legion of Decency and bishops like Cardinal Dennis Dougherty)


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/SearchersPoster-BillGold.jpg

    Yes, thank God for the moral force of the Catholic Church in America. They saved us from Jew peddled smut and from child molestation. Oh no wait, maybe not the child molestation part.

    Where were the WASPs in all of this when the Catholics were telling the Jews what to do? When did WASP America start to abdicate running America and start letting loudmouth minorities set the agenda?

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    Easy. The WASPs were in cahoots with the Jews, as usual (to stick it to the Catholics), but playing innocent and letting them take all the blame.

    :D

    I'm kinda joking, but this theory of WASP "noble" elite replaced by a Jewish "hostile" elite doesn't hold water. Anglos and Jews have been working (and marrying) together for quite some time.
    , @peterike

    Yes, thank God for the moral force of the Catholic Church in America. They saved us from Jew peddled smut and from child molestation. Oh no wait, maybe not the child molestation part.
     
    The pre-Vatican II Catholic Church -- the one that gave us the Hayes Code -- was quite a bit different from the miserable failure that came afterwards. The seminaries had not yet been taken over by homosexuals, and if the local priest found out about child molestation, he'd probably get a group of local toughs together to "pay a visit" to whoever it was.

    Some say that Vatican II was influenced by Jews. I have no knowledge either way, but it sure seems bent that way.

    Where were the WASPs in all of this when the Catholics were telling the Jews what to do?

     

    Some supported it. Many were out to lunch.

    When did WASP America start to abdicate running America and start letting loudmouth minorities set the agenda?
     
    It started in the early 1900s, picked up when Wilson let the Jews bum-rush America into WWI and sprang the Fed on us. It increased rapidly in the 20s and 30s, and by the 40s the FDR administration was chock-a-block with Communist Jews.

    But real Jewish cultural power came with the advent of television. By the 1950s the WASP ruling class was pretty much over, but cultural changes have to shift a lot of inertia, so it took some time. By the early 1970s the cultural takeover was pretty much complete, and everything since has been more or less controlled by Jews, or representing a Jewish agenda.

    But then, you know all this. You're just a dissembling phony.
    , @Anon
    Does this get the prize for most obtuse JIDF comment yet or are there others in the running?
  91. @L.D.
    Hispanics/Latin Americans/Brazilians and the Iberians who fathered them, the Portuguese and the Spanish, are SERIOUSLY uninteresting people - I should know because I am one of them myself.

    It also baffles me as to why anyone who doesn't have direct professional dealings with us would be interested in learning Spanish (or Portuguese for that matter: both languages are roughly 80% identical). I always try to dissuade people and say, look, don't bother, learn French, German, Russian, learn a civilized language, the Spanish/Portuguese-speaking world, except for half a dozen of writers, is a cultural and scientific desert, don't waste your time.

    Depending on where you live, Spanish is an extremely practical language to know in the United States.

    • Replies: @L.D.
    But for what exactly? To speak with people (presumably Hispanics) who are in the United States but are too dumb to speak English? No, thanks. I would avoid such areas like the plague.
    , @L.D.
    To be honest with you, the only reason I know Spanish is because my first language is Portuguese and they are practically the same shit. If it was not for that I would never waste a minute of my life trying to learn either. The sad truth is that most native speakers of both languages (something around 700 million people when combined) are simply brain-dead and they don't have much to say anyway.
    , @Alden
    I live in Los Angeles. I refuse to speak or read a word of Spanish. The maid and handymen all speak decent English. They were all born in Los Angeles.

    Being White, it’s illegal for me to work a government job where i might need Spanish anyway. I might have a Hispanic tenant or 2. I’d have to check. If they can’t speak and read decent English they can’t afford the rent. So they must speak English.

    The only foreign language spoken in my neighborhood by people who don’t speak and read English is Farsi by 70 year olds who’ve lived here since 1980 but haven’t learned English. They live in a separate world.

    The Israeli immigrants all speak excellent English, American accents too.

    You do realize that Mexican immigrants learn English in school from age 5 to 18? That ESL classes and materials are free and widely available everywhere? That keeping the TV on all day is the best way to learn a foreign language? That Hispanic immigrants make the effort to learn enough English to get along? That every Home Depot crew of illegals has an English speaker ? That many of the restaurant janitor food processing and Home Depot day labor people are Indios who only speak about 50 words of Spanish, less than an American in a first year high school Spanish class?

    Fuck Spanish Mandarin Tagalog Lugano Farsi Russian Armenian Hebrew. They all learn English anyway. Did you know you can’t be admitted to Phillipine nursing dental and med school unless you take English in high school?

    180 languages spoken in Los Angeles. Like medieval Europe, we need a common language. It’s English.

    Our great hero, Ron Unz sponsored the referendum that abolished bi lingual Spanish English education in California.

    The idea of the liberals was that immigrant children were too dumb to learn English. It was also a full employment program for Hispanic immigrants.

    But the problems of teaching immigrant children their parents language was ridiculous. Farsi in Beverly Hills, Tagalog in Torrance and Redondo Beach Armenian in Hollywood and Encino Spanish in S Central and the southern suburbs Mandarin here, Cantonese there and Fukienese elsewhere. Korean here Thai there Vietnamese elsewhere Hindi Russian and Hebrew in Santa Clara County Ethiopian Somalian Nigerian French for immigrants from Senegal Cameroon Ivory Coast French and Haitian for Haitians

    There was, might still be an elementary public school in Los Angeles that claimed to teach the kids in Nuchatelz?? supposedly the Aztec language

    Why should I bother learning the language of the illegal alien lower classes; which is not Spanish but the various pre literate Indio languages of Mexico and Central America? I don’t own a ranch farm slaughter house canning factory restaurant or any part of the vile disgusting food industry that hires only illegal aliens.?

    Thank you again Ron for getting rid of that bi lingual education stupidity. I always thought it was a plot by the food industry to keep their workers chained in those vile disgusting jobs.
  92. @Icy Blast
    They are not ours. They are yours.

    How the hell are they mine and how do I get rid of them?

  93. @Clyde
    Generalizing of course...... Hispanics are fairly content to go along with the social and racial pecking order. My town athletic field is converting one field to artificial turf and all the grunts are Hispanic. They can plug away all day at it. You could never get blacks to do this work be they American or immigrants. Partly because they are incapable of being sociable enough to form stable work crews that work on project after project.

    Blacks these days are the big bad rebels coming up with bs such as their slavery built America. Aided and abetted by nitwit libs-leftists, or you would never see the 1619 project. Blacks are more prominent and respected these days due them doing great and pulling in millions in sports ball and show business. Money talks, so when there are so many super rich blacks, blacks as a whole get respect. As far as black intellectual achievements, what a joke. Though via very pushy AA policies there are numerous black professors these days, mostly teaching useless stuff. Zero STEM for them. But they love them university .Edu and black grievance studies slots.

    You know, thats a great point about blacks forming stable work crews. I’d never really thought about it before, but there’s a lot of truth to it. I don’t work directly with very many, but they tend to hang together with all the internal cohesion of a group of middle school girls.

  94. Latino and Hispanic isn’t a “race” as everyone with any sense already knows. So quota mongering by tediously adding up speaking parts in films (supposedly) is another SJW waste of time for foolish propaganda.

    Until fairly recently nearly all ethnics were played by white people. One factor here is simply talent. Relatively few non whites spend years striving for acting roles onstage or in film. Most film actors have long (fairly long, underpaid) stints as stage actors in small roles and/or in regional theater. They learn to play a variety of parts, but must be able to speak clear English with a variety of local accents or sometimes non English accents.

    Actors who can do this who are native Spanish speakers likely choose to act in Spanish language films where pay is better and roles are much easier to find. It takes a lot of sacrifice to break into films.

    Hollywood racial quota mongering is just a modern neocommie fad. Lots of poorly received films cluttering up awards shows are the main result.

  95. @Mr McKenna
    Have them go see Hollywood's film version of Edna Ferber's GIANT.

    Starring no less than Liz Taylor, Rock Hudson, and James Dean.
    Made no less than 64 years ago now.

    GIANT morphs from an epic family drama into an endless harangue about race relations and 'white privilege' although they didn't call it that in the 1950s. Guess what? Racism and sexism are really bad. In case you aren't sure, GIANT spends three hours repeatedly hammering this point home, over and over.

    Significantly for the current discussion, the film is concerned with Mexicans only and the blacks in the film remain in properly subservient roles. I guess we pick and choose our lessons. By the end (it finally does end), Liz delivers the final speech, wherein she declares that by beating up some evil racists, Rock has finally become her hero. Wow, that took a while.

    Dean's Jett Rink ends up being the bad guy. You'll root for him.

    Duel in the Sun (1946) was also dripping in Tex-Mex racial overtones, with Jennifer Jones as the Mestizo half-breed

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duel_in_the_Sun_(film)

  96. @Jack D
    There were times when different parts of Latin America were politically unstable and their great writers had to leave and some ended up in the US (e.g. Isabel Allende) . But for the most part, Latin authors are part of the white upper class and live comfortable lives back home, maybe more comfortably than they could afford here. I think people here have the wrong impression of what Mexico is like based upon places like Tijuana. The fancier neighborhoods of Mexico City have boutiques and upscale restaurants, etc. that are as nice as those found anywhere. And these countries have universities and an intellectual life, while most cultured Latinos (the kind who write books) consider most of American culture to be philistine. As far as they are concerned, as long as the political situation permits it, they have literally no reason to want to live in the US. (Isabel Allende moved here because she married an American but she could move back to Chile now if she wanted to).

    And the Mexicans we get here are mostly mixed race and poor and not likely to write great literature. If they grow up and are educated in the US, they are immersed in modern American grievance culture and the stuff that they write reflects this so it's agitprop and not literature.

    Jack, serious question: could a Sausalito lawyer named Bill Gordon possibly be Jewish?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Maybe yes, maybe no. Gordon is sometimes a Jewish surname but sometimes it isn't.
  97. @Jack D
    Yes, thank God for the moral force of the Catholic Church in America. They saved us from Jew peddled smut and from child molestation. Oh no wait, maybe not the child molestation part.

    Where were the WASPs in all of this when the Catholics were telling the Jews what to do? When did WASP America start to abdicate running America and start letting loudmouth minorities set the agenda?

    Easy. The WASPs were in cahoots with the Jews, as usual (to stick it to the Catholics), but playing innocent and letting them take all the blame.

    😀

    I’m kinda joking, but this theory of WASP “noble” elite replaced by a Jewish “hostile” elite doesn’t hold water. Anglos and Jews have been working (and marrying) together for quite some time.

  98. @Kyle
    Perhaps Latino movie stars are traumatized by historical Hollywood portraiture.
    https://myhero.com/images/guest/g240600/hero73248/g240600_u85856_genekellyheadshot.jpg
    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/[email protected]@._V1_UY1200_CR167,0,630,1200_AL_.jpg
    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/[email protected]_V1_.jpg

    Those privileged Hollywood stars seem to stare through you with an accusatory gaze. If those publicity photos magically came to life, I wonder what they would say?
    “You don’t belong here. You’ll never make it in this town! The pictures are for beautiful white cis-hetero people only.”
    Historical portraiture is a lurking menace, oppressing the most seemingly high achieving and well adjusted members of our society.

    Rita Hayworth is Hispanic. Dummesel.

  99. Yeah, they had more of them in the 50s. Desi Arnaz. The Cisco Kid. Etc.

  100. Maybe they’re too busy playing “beisbol.”. According to recent stats, 27.4% of MLB consists of Hispanics though my intuition tells me it is probably at least over 30% if you include guys who are constantly being shuttled to/from The Show and the minors). And those numbers will only go up. Meanwhile, the numbers of blacks keeps dropping…dropping. And white Europeans are not far behind.

  101. @petit bourgeois
    Anthony Quinn was born in Chihuahua and won an Oscar. He had 12 kids and was part of the grievance class of Mexicans (la Raza), despite living large in Hollywood and consorting with mafiosi.

    Mustn’t overlook Ricardo Montalban, Mexico City native of Spanish descent

  102. When someone with a Hispanic last name shows up in the US media it’s often a very white-looking chick reading the local news or weather.

  103. @Jack D
    This is false too. The Left (which includes many secular Jews) attacks Israel, Netanyahu, religious Jews, etc. all the time. The NY Times runs exposes about sex abuse in the Orthodox community, etc. Naturally they don't attack "their own" - i.e. fellow Leftists, very often.

    I don’t see what you are counting as attacks. From where I stand I don’t see Jews getting anything close to the hatred and attacks currently happening to Whites. And when something does happen to Jews, the culprits are usually deplatformed either from social media, their jobs or both. At one extreme we just witnessed Congress this year taking action to pass a resolution after Jews took offense to some remarks. When was the last time Congress passed a resolution defending Whites?

    I think the Jews that have been attacked in the press have been attacked for being White, not Jewish. So it just reinforces the get Whitey nature of our current age.

  104. @Anonymous

    I have noticed a lack of blacks on Spanish-language television stations.
     
    Or small-breasted ugly women.

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/83/d6/53/83d65363bc02e099ae429510c559b119--jackie-guerrido-universe.jpg

    I ♥️ Latina women!

    NYC has the seemingly ageless Audrey Puente, daughter of Tito

  105. Anyone here agree that No Country For Old Men (the film version) was, among other things, a lament over the Mexican invasion?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I agree.
  106. @Travis
    Mestizos are still not part of the power structure in Latin America and will never displace the conquistadors who rule these nations. Doubtful that the mestizos in the United States will ever exert much political power. Blacks have obtained political power because they are backed by jews and whites. Without the support of millions of whites they would rapidly lose their power and influence.

    The Black population is not dwindling in America. back in 1950 the black population was 10%. It reached 12% in 1980 and his now 14% of the population. The number of Blacks has doubled since 1970 , from 22 million in 1970 to 44 million in 2015. While the Black population is growing , we will see their power reduced as the white population in America falls below 50%. With less whites to support the Black power centers and more Asians and hispanics who do not feel responsible for Blacks failures, Blacks will lose political power as American becomes less white and more Asian and Latino, but they will soon be 15% of the US population, partly due to white females having black children.

    My bad, I meant blacks getting swamped population wise.

  107. This is a good place to mention that according to the Attorney General of California (backed up by the Governor) it turns out that any Hispanics — or anybody else in the whole wide world — who comes here automatically become American as soon as they arrive.

    Attorney General Xavier Becerra’s 57th lawsuit against the administration targeted President Trump’s attempt to undo the Flores settlement. That 1997 court agreement requires the federal government to detain children and families in the least restrictive settings and hold them as family units for no longer than 20 days.

    “Children don’t become subhuman simply because they are migrants,” Becerra said at a news conference where he was joined by Gov. Gavin Newsom. “All children are God’s children. They’re our children and they’re America’s children, and America should never treat them otherwise.”

    Since all people everywhere are God’s children, that must mean all people in the world are welcome to come here. I guess that means we don’t have a country anymore, all we are is two open borders with an immigrant receiving area in between them. It is beyond distressing to see US government officials claim we have an open borders immigration policy. I wonder who else will say that before the 2020 election? Or will the Democrats go back towards the center after going to the left during the primaries?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/california-to-sue-over-trump-plan-to-hold-immigrant-children-indefinitely/ar-AAGmet8

    • Replies: @JimB

    It is beyond distressing to see US government officials claim we have an open borders immigration policy. I wonder who else will say that before the 2020 election? Or will the Democrats go back towards the center after going to the left during the primaries?
     
    I’m guessing progressives will say anything to get elected. Then they will unveil their agenda when the opposition is at their weakest. Same old, same old. If DeBlasio had run on shutting the GAT schools, he wouldn’t have been elected. But here he is, in his final act as NYC mayor shutting the GAT schools. It’s like the last verse of Frank Zappa’s song Broken Hearts are for Assholes:

    “Aw, I knew you'd be surprised...”

  108. @Jack D
    Yes, thank God for the moral force of the Catholic Church in America. They saved us from Jew peddled smut and from child molestation. Oh no wait, maybe not the child molestation part.

    Where were the WASPs in all of this when the Catholics were telling the Jews what to do? When did WASP America start to abdicate running America and start letting loudmouth minorities set the agenda?

    Yes, thank God for the moral force of the Catholic Church in America. They saved us from Jew peddled smut and from child molestation. Oh no wait, maybe not the child molestation part.

    The pre-Vatican II Catholic Church — the one that gave us the Hayes Code — was quite a bit different from the miserable failure that came afterwards. The seminaries had not yet been taken over by homosexuals, and if the local priest found out about child molestation, he’d probably get a group of local toughs together to “pay a visit” to whoever it was.

    Some say that Vatican II was influenced by Jews. I have no knowledge either way, but it sure seems bent that way.

    Where were the WASPs in all of this when the Catholics were telling the Jews what to do?

    Some supported it. Many were out to lunch.

    When did WASP America start to abdicate running America and start letting loudmouth minorities set the agenda?

    It started in the early 1900s, picked up when Wilson let the Jews bum-rush America into WWI and sprang the Fed on us. It increased rapidly in the 20s and 30s, and by the 40s the FDR administration was chock-a-block with Communist Jews.

    But real Jewish cultural power came with the advent of television. By the 1950s the WASP ruling class was pretty much over, but cultural changes have to shift a lot of inertia, so it took some time. By the early 1970s the cultural takeover was pretty much complete, and everything since has been more or less controlled by Jews, or representing a Jewish agenda.

    But then, you know all this. You’re just a dissembling phony.

    • Replies: @Jack D

    and if the local priest found out about child molestation, he’d probably get a group of local toughs together to “pay a visit” to whoever it was.
     
    What if it was the priest himself? Would he order the thugs to beat him up too?

    "Father" Geoghan, one of the most notorious molesters, was ordained in 1962 so you can't blame him on Vatican II. Vatican II was evolutionary, not revolutionary. After Vatican II the same priests and hierarchy were in place as before. No one lost their job.

    As for Vatican II being influenced by Joos, that's hilarious. Joos - they're everywhere, even inside the Vatican, in Wilson's cabinet, inside your TeeVee set. Is there anything (bad) that Jews AREN'T responsible for? That would be a shorter list.
  109. @South Texas Guy
    It's actually kind of weird. Hispanics are capable of quality entertainment in their own countries, but here it's like the desert. I took a Mexican-American lit class in grad school and they were really reaching for the bottom.

    South America and Mexico have great writers in their own right (may not be to your taste) but none have migrated to the US. There is literally no good South of the border writer in America.
  110. @Harry Baldwin
    How about that other great Mexican actor, Eli Wallach? And who can forget Marlon Brando as Emiliano Zapata or Yul Brynner, Telly Savalas, and Wallace Beery as Pancho Villa?

    No Hollywood film ever employed more actual Mexicans than Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch, though Wild Bunch member "Angel" was played by a Puerto Rican.

    Even the great Bill Dana (“Jose Jimenez”) was a Hungarian.

    As is Louis CK-who claims Hispanicness or whatver it’s called.

  111. @Clyde
    Generalizing of course...... Hispanics are fairly content to go along with the social and racial pecking order. My town athletic field is converting one field to artificial turf and all the grunts are Hispanic. They can plug away all day at it. You could never get blacks to do this work be they American or immigrants. Partly because they are incapable of being sociable enough to form stable work crews that work on project after project.

    Blacks these days are the big bad rebels coming up with bs such as their slavery built America. Aided and abetted by nitwit libs-leftists, or you would never see the 1619 project. Blacks are more prominent and respected these days due them doing great and pulling in millions in sports ball and show business. Money talks, so when there are so many super rich blacks, blacks as a whole get respect. As far as black intellectual achievements, what a joke. Though via very pushy AA policies there are numerous black professors these days, mostly teaching useless stuff. Zero STEM for them. But they love them university .Edu and black grievance studies slots.

    ,,,,”their slavery built America. ”

    Blacks did a half assed job performing menial tasks in a handful of Southern states.

  112. @Kyle
    Perhaps Latino movie stars are traumatized by historical Hollywood portraiture.
    https://myhero.com/images/guest/g240600/hero73248/g240600_u85856_genekellyheadshot.jpg
    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/[email protected]@._V1_UY1200_CR167,0,630,1200_AL_.jpg
    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/[email protected]_V1_.jpg

    Those privileged Hollywood stars seem to stare through you with an accusatory gaze. If those publicity photos magically came to life, I wonder what they would say?
    “You don’t belong here. You’ll never make it in this town! The pictures are for beautiful white cis-hetero people only.”
    Historical portraiture is a lurking menace, oppressing the most seemingly high achieving and well adjusted members of our society.

    Well, I can guess what Margarita Carmen Cansino would say.

  113. @Jack D
    Yes, thank God for the moral force of the Catholic Church in America. They saved us from Jew peddled smut and from child molestation. Oh no wait, maybe not the child molestation part.

    Where were the WASPs in all of this when the Catholics were telling the Jews what to do? When did WASP America start to abdicate running America and start letting loudmouth minorities set the agenda?

    Does this get the prize for most obtuse JIDF comment yet or are there others in the running?

  114. @Marcus
    Well, Ana de Armas was in the Bladerunner remake ;)

    Seriously, who wants to see anything with a rotund, 4'10" Mixtec lead?

    https://vcucns.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/16655/2012/05/mixtec_women.jpg

    Plain though they are, they still compare quite favorably to their black counterparts. They generally aren’t shrieking obnoxious witches, and they can cook and clean and are very patient with children on average. Also, much more introverted than blacks.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    Yeah but those traits aren't what you look for in casting; plus blaq women can have more impressive physiques that viewers would like. Idk which I'd prefer to bleach: blaq women have awful personalities, but they might bear me a pro-athlete son (or daughter), sure Steve can appreciate that as well.
  115. More relevant to Hollywood presence and success, is the percentage of Latinos that are Jewish.

  116. @Mike Pence is a Zionist stooge
    No one wants to hear from their janitors and fruit pickers. The help should be seen and not heard.

    Next.

    I once watched a ranching cousin in New Mexico go outside at about 7 am to instruct the huddled twenty or thirty Mexican hands as to what their day’s work was to consist of. He talked; they listened.
    Not a word from any of them, even as they disappeared into the morning mist, presumably to do as they had been bidden.

  117. @JimB

    There are things you unimportant little people living in flyover country are supposed to care about and things you aren’t supposed to even notice, and we, the good and the great, will tell you peons which is which.
     
    I’m all for more Latinos in film if they can make better stuff than the clapped-out mega-corporations and incestuous production networks of Hollywood. Figuratively speaking, everything is shit coming out of the major studios, even the stuff that is praised like Once Upon a Time In Hollywood. It could be that moviegoers in an ultra diverse society have so little in common that there is no way to create a unified sense of what constitutes quality entertainment embedded in a hopeful worldview. As a result, everything is a downer, the dialog is straight out of a juvenile creative writing assignment, and the plots seem like they were constructed out of tinker toys by a hyperactive eight year old. Arguably, it’s because Hispanics make up so much of the audience that movies are made this way.

    Hollywood is manufactured. The “critical” reviews are manufactured. Everything is a production for mass consumption. From Laurel Canyon to Studio City, instant rock bands, instant movie stars, instant celebrities with politically correct opinions, signaling virtue to the masses.

  118. @Mike Pence is a Zionist stooge
    No one wants to hear from their janitors and fruit pickers. The help should be seen and not heard.

    Next.

    No one wants to hear from their janitors and fruit pickers.

    That’s why they should be replaced with robots.

  119. @Clifford Brown
    Depending on where you live, Spanish is an extremely practical language to know in the United States.

    But for what exactly? To speak with people (presumably Hispanics) who are in the United States but are too dumb to speak English? No, thanks. I would avoid such areas like the plague.

  120. @notsaying
    This is a good place to mention that according to the Attorney General of California (backed up by the Governor) it turns out that any Hispanics -- or anybody else in the whole wide world -- who comes here automatically become American as soon as they arrive.

    Attorney General Xavier Becerra’s 57th lawsuit against the administration targeted President Trump’s attempt to undo the Flores settlement. That 1997 court agreement requires the federal government to detain children and families in the least restrictive settings and hold them as family units for no longer than 20 days.

    “Children don’t become subhuman simply because they are migrants,” Becerra said at a news conference where he was joined by Gov. Gavin Newsom. “All children are God’s children. They’re our children and they’re America’s children, and America should never treat them otherwise.”
     

    Since all people everywhere are God's children, that must mean all people in the world are welcome to come here. I guess that means we don't have a country anymore, all we are is two open borders with an immigrant receiving area in between them. It is beyond distressing to see US government officials claim we have an open borders immigration policy. I wonder who else will say that before the 2020 election? Or will the Democrats go back towards the center after going to the left during the primaries?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/california-to-sue-over-trump-plan-to-hold-immigrant-children-indefinitely/ar-AAGmet8

    It is beyond distressing to see US government officials claim we have an open borders immigration policy. I wonder who else will say that before the 2020 election? Or will the Democrats go back towards the center after going to the left during the primaries?

    I’m guessing progressives will say anything to get elected. Then they will unveil their agenda when the opposition is at their weakest. Same old, same old. If DeBlasio had run on shutting the GAT schools, he wouldn’t have been elected. But here he is, in his final act as NYC mayor shutting the GAT schools. It’s like the last verse of Frank Zappa’s song Broken Hearts are for Assholes:

    “Aw, I knew you’d be surprised…”

  121. @Clifford Brown
    Depending on where you live, Spanish is an extremely practical language to know in the United States.

    To be honest with you, the only reason I know Spanish is because my first language is Portuguese and they are practically the same shit. If it was not for that I would never waste a minute of my life trying to learn either. The sad truth is that most native speakers of both languages (something around 700 million people when combined) are simply brain-dead and they don’t have much to say anyway.

  122. @Anonymous

    I have noticed a lack of blacks on Spanish-language television stations.
     
    Or small-breasted ugly women.

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/83/d6/53/83d65363bc02e099ae429510c559b119--jackie-guerrido-universe.jpg

    I ♥️ Latina women!

    I ♥️ Latina women!

    Really?

    • Replies: @Whitemanzen
    Those an Indians not Latinas.
  123. @Jack D
    The actors in Bollywood movies (especially the females) are also several shades whiter than most Indians. Lighter skin is associated with youth and beauty in almost all cultures (except perhaps parts of Africa where it is out of reach). Skin lightening creams are a huge business all over Asia, both East and South.

    Even in the US and Europe, being tan was once associated with being a farmer or other outdoor occupations and was a sign of being low class. Air travel really inverted the situation - in the early days only the rich could afford to fly down to Florida and play tennis and golf outdoors in the winter - therefore having a tan became associated with being wealthy rather than poor.

    Rich, upper class whites seem to be careful not to get dark, despite spending a lot of time in the sun. Take Alice B-B, for example, who has written travel articles everywhere from the Persian Gulf to Central America. Nice healthy glow, but that’s about it. A leathery-dark tan? No.

  124. @OscarWildeLoveChild
    We've been on a collision course with this obvious point, arguably since the category was created ("Hispanic") but most recently in the last ten years with the increased desire for people to be "not white" (including the new proposed MENA category).

    Although there is a fair number of mixed marriages and parentage between (actual) Whites and Mestizos, there are also a fair number of White Hispanics with non-Hispanic Whites, and both categories are being called "Hispanic/Latino" and categorized as "not white", in most cultural references--including those talking about the imminent demise of white people in the USA. Granted, there will be less Germanic (Anglo-Saxon, Jute) whites in the US in the future, and possibly less Celtic-identified (although N. Spain is Celtic), the reality is that a caste system similar to Brazil or, if you like, Louisiana in the CURRENT YEAR, has already developed.

    Everyone knows who is "white" and who isn't. Even the most dark-eyed, medium skinned, brunette Latinos can be instantly recognized as whether they are "White" or "white enough" (Salma Hayek, Penelope Cruz [Spaniard], Eva Longoria, Jimmy Smitts, etc).

    The question is, will there be any calling out of White Hispanics when it comes to Affirmative Action (college entrances, government jobs), in the future. So far, there has not been and millions of white hispanics, many of whom have no cultural affiliation with the greater Latino/Hispanic culture, and who don't speak Spanish, or don't carry a recognizably 'Spanish' surname, continue to consider themselves "Hispanic" and/or "Latino".

    It's like being part of a Native American tribe without the burdens of proof basically.

    Selma Hayek has no Spanish, Latin American Indian or any kind of Hispanic blood.

    Dad’s Czech (German). Mom’s a White Lebanese Christian ancient Canaanite, not Arab.

    She gets her coloring from Mom, that perfect face from Central European Dad.

    • Replies: @OscarWildeLoveChild
    You are incorrect. First, it is Salma, as I spelled it (not "Selma" like the Alabama town), secondly, her father is Lebanese (Hayak), and thirdly her mother (Diana Jiménez Medina) is a Mexican of mixed Mexican (partial mestizo ancestry) and Spanish from the Medina family (with some potential Jewish heritage). She's a pretty well known opera singer from back in the day and she is clearly mixed (high caste Mestiza)

    You have no idea what you are talking about.
  125. @Steve Sailer
    "Giant" is an odd movie. It starts out like it's going to be an epic drama, but it eventually turns into a moderately amusing satire on Texans, eventually settling on how Texans have to be less bigoted against Mexicans. To play The Mexican, the movie bravely hired Sal Mineo, a gay Italian. After all, there were never any famous gay Italians before in history.

    My immediate reaction to seeing this was: what happened to Sal Mineo? Looking into it he was murdered in 1976 near his disgusting apartment off sunset boulevard. James Ellroy has written a long piece from the investigating cops’ point of view in the Hollywood reporter (it’s online). Mineo seems to have had an extremely active social life, but that line of enquiry led to a total blank, the killer turning out to have been a black career criminal who’d been snitched on and got released in 2000. I wonder whether the investigation would hold up now at all.

  126. @Flip
    I notice that George P. Bush married a very blonde Anglo woman.

    Gotta backcross occasionally, keeps the phenotype looking good.

  127. @Clifford Brown
    Depending on where you live, Spanish is an extremely practical language to know in the United States.

    I live in Los Angeles. I refuse to speak or read a word of Spanish. The maid and handymen all speak decent English. They were all born in Los Angeles.

    Being White, it’s illegal for me to work a government job where i might need Spanish anyway. I might have a Hispanic tenant or 2. I’d have to check. If they can’t speak and read decent English they can’t afford the rent. So they must speak English.

    The only foreign language spoken in my neighborhood by people who don’t speak and read English is Farsi by 70 year olds who’ve lived here since 1980 but haven’t learned English. They live in a separate world.

    The Israeli immigrants all speak excellent English, American accents too.

    You do realize that Mexican immigrants learn English in school from age 5 to 18? That ESL classes and materials are free and widely available everywhere? That keeping the TV on all day is the best way to learn a foreign language? That Hispanic immigrants make the effort to learn enough English to get along? That every Home Depot crew of illegals has an English speaker ? That many of the restaurant janitor food processing and Home Depot day labor people are Indios who only speak about 50 words of Spanish, less than an American in a first year high school Spanish class?

    Fuck Spanish Mandarin Tagalog Lugano Farsi Russian Armenian Hebrew. They all learn English anyway. Did you know you can’t be admitted to Phillipine nursing dental and med school unless you take English in high school?

    180 languages spoken in Los Angeles. Like medieval Europe, we need a common language. It’s English.

    Our great hero, Ron Unz sponsored the referendum that abolished bi lingual Spanish English education in California.

    The idea of the liberals was that immigrant children were too dumb to learn English. It was also a full employment program for Hispanic immigrants.

    But the problems of teaching immigrant children their parents language was ridiculous. Farsi in Beverly Hills, Tagalog in Torrance and Redondo Beach Armenian in Hollywood and Encino Spanish in S Central and the southern suburbs Mandarin here, Cantonese there and Fukienese elsewhere. Korean here Thai there Vietnamese elsewhere Hindi Russian and Hebrew in Santa Clara County Ethiopian Somalian Nigerian French for immigrants from Senegal Cameroon Ivory Coast French and Haitian for Haitians

    There was, might still be an elementary public school in Los Angeles that claimed to teach the kids in Nuchatelz?? supposedly the Aztec language

    Why should I bother learning the language of the illegal alien lower classes; which is not Spanish but the various pre literate Indio languages of Mexico and Central America? I don’t own a ranch farm slaughter house canning factory restaurant or any part of the vile disgusting food industry that hires only illegal aliens.?

    Thank you again Ron for getting rid of that bi lingual education stupidity. I always thought it was a plot by the food industry to keep their workers chained in those vile disgusting jobs.

  128. It seems like nobody cares about orthodox Jews either
    https://forward.com/opinion/430446/why-does-no-one-care-about-violence-against-orthodox-jews/

    Why Does No One Care About Violence Against Orthodox Jews?
    by Avital Chizhik-Goldschmidt

    No one should have been surprised yesterday morning, when a man assaulted Rabbi Avraham Gopin, 63, with a brick in Crown Heights Park — knocking his teeth out and injuring his face, before fleeing the scene.

    And almost no one will stand up for us. Even when Orthodox Jews are brutally attacked, those with power limit their reaction to a single tweet. After yesterday’s attack in Crown Heights, New York City officials posted obligatory calls for tolerance, yet the lack of any real action is troubling. In June, at the Jewish American Heritage Month party at Gracie Mansion, Mayor Bill de Blasio promised to immediately open an office devoted to combatting anti-Semitism; it’s two months and several anti-Jewish hate crimes later, and Jewish communal representatives are saying that they have yet to get an update on this. (The Anti-Defamation League is the notable exception in this case, offering a $5,000 reward for information.)

    Tweets and press releases have yet to stop a single attack.

    Why will no one speak up on our behalf? Why don’t people rush to call out these hate crimes? Instead, they wont even call it a hate crime. We have to hear them call it a mugging, or tell us it wasn’t due to the black hat or yarmulke — but actually due to a development, the schools, measles outbreaks, tax evasion, don’t you know.

    Why wont anyone speak up? Is it because they do not see Orthodox Jews as real Americans, as citizens deserving of the right to live safely in their communities? Are we too “other,” too “apart,” “disloyal,” to earn the privilege of peaceful existence? Is it because we are politically inconvenient? If the perpetrator wasn’t a white supremacist who voted for Trump, then it didn’t really happen, did it?

    • LOL: BB753
  129. @Travis
    Mestizos are still not part of the power structure in Latin America and will never displace the conquistadors who rule these nations. Doubtful that the mestizos in the United States will ever exert much political power. Blacks have obtained political power because they are backed by jews and whites. Without the support of millions of whites they would rapidly lose their power and influence.

    The Black population is not dwindling in America. back in 1950 the black population was 10%. It reached 12% in 1980 and his now 14% of the population. The number of Blacks has doubled since 1970 , from 22 million in 1970 to 44 million in 2015. While the Black population is growing , we will see their power reduced as the white population in America falls below 50%. With less whites to support the Black power centers and more Asians and hispanics who do not feel responsible for Blacks failures, Blacks will lose political power as American becomes less white and more Asian and Latino, but they will soon be 15% of the US population, partly due to white females having black children.

    Another sad old virgin bachelor heard from.

    Three Questions

    1. How many White children have you bred and raised?

    2 Where in the world do you live that you see so many White mothers with black kids?

    3 Are you gay?

    • Replies: @Travis
    I never observed many White mothers with Black kids. I did mean to suggest that many white women are having mulatto children. But there are some white women having children with Black men. The percentage of such women is small , about 5% , but not insignificant. Pew Research Center released a report finding that 25% of Black male newlyweds in 2013 married non-Black women and 80% of those women were White and 10% were hispanic. Black women were the least likely to marry non-Black men at only 7%, and only 4% were married to White men. https://blackdemographics.com/households/marriage-in-black-america/

    While about 4% of white women will marry a black man, there are more white women having children with Black men than marrying Black men. About 5% of white females will have a black child according to Pew researchers. I would not quantify this as many. From 2000-2010 white women had 21 million children and 5% of these babies had a black father which resulted in 1.1 million mulatto children born from 2000-2010.
    According to the 2010 Census, the population reporting multiple races (9.0 million) grew by 32% from 2000 to 2010, while the number of whites grew by 2%. The white and black (mulatto) population, grew by 1.1 million and increased by 134 percent; https://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/race/cb12-182.html
    I do not oppose inter-racial marriages and have never made a moral judgement about white women who marry Black men. If Blacks stopped marrying each other and only married non-blacks the United States may be a better place in 100 years, as there would be fewer Negroes , although more mulattos. This would be a beneficial trade-off. Is it better for a white women to have a mulatto child than to die childless ?

    I am married with 3 children most people consider my children to be white, although my wife is from Chile. Two of my 3 children have blue eyes one has green eyes like my wife. Even my wife does not appear to be hispanic although DNA tests revealed she is 16% Amerindian. She still denies having any indigenous blood, as do her siblings and parents. In fact, having been going too Chile for 20 years and never one met a Chilean who would admit having any Amerindian ancestry, and they would be deeply offended if you ask them if they had any Indian heritage. Certainly people like my wife would be offended if Hollywood had more mestizo actors in films. They would rather see less mestizos and more whites in hollywood films. Not sure if Mexicans feel the same, but assume they would rather have more white Hispanics in films and no mestizos. They want to be seen as white not amerindian.
  130. @peterike

    You and Mel Gibson can go and make your own white friendly Jew free movies and put them in the theaters and if this is what people want to see they will flock to them and all the Jew owned studios will have to go out of business.
     
    Jackie Boy has got his Jewish up.

    Jack D is kind of like Fred Reed. Ordinarily, he’s pretty good. However, when he gets up on his hobby horse…

  131. @Anonymous

    American Indian “Latinos” are sounding better and better.
     
    That makes about as much sense as 'American Indian Anglo'.

    The brown natives of the Americas have a history going back 1,000s 0f yrs before Latino whites came. Calling them 'latino' or 'hispanic' is to deny their deep roots prior to the European conquest. It really must stop. Africa was under European rule but we still call Africans 'Africans'. Calling browns of 'Latin America' as 'latino' is like calling blacks of South Africa 'anglo' or 'dutch'.

    Latinos would be the descendants of Spaniards. Hispanic is a made up term no one in Latin America uses. Indians can never be Latinos.

  132. @syonredux

    I ♥️ Latina women!
     
    Really?

    https://l7.alamy.com/zooms/3abb44c5c239447a9705929d6e14f961/mayan-indigenous-woman-waiting-in-line-for-free-suplies-up-in-the-d2etct.jpg


    https://www.changemakers.com/sites/default/files/women_of_xetonox.jpg


    https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5130/5239124053_32d85339fd_b.jpg

    Those an Indians not Latinas.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Those an Indians not Latinas.
     
    Most Latinx are Amerinds/Mestizos. The USA isn't getting a steady stream of White women from Spain:


    http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2066174/images/o-PENELOPE-CRUZ-facebook.jpg
  133. The average Mexican seems quite docile. I don’t know where the Cartel loonies come from.

    But I have seen Mexicans work as fruit pickers. Head down all day, pick fruit in the hot sun with no complaints or needs.

    I also know that the shitlib view of Latin America (muh poor brown people) is so out of touch from the real culture there that it is laughable.

    Anyways, I have nothing against Mexicans as a people. But they need to be kept in their place; they are help, not masters. Keep them picking on the Visa then send them back. No tolerance for illegal aliens.

  134. @Bugg
    If it weren't for "Narcos" would be close to zero.

    Anthony Quinn; Greek Irish but played Latin and Italians all the time.

    Anthony Quinn was Mexican.

  135. @Bugg
    Correction; Quinn was Irish-Mexican; Zorba and whatnot.

    Antonio Rodolfo Quinn Oaxaca
    April 21, 1915
    Chihuahua, Mexico

  136. @Joe Schmoe
    Plain though they are, they still compare quite favorably to their black counterparts. They generally aren't shrieking obnoxious witches, and they can cook and clean and are very patient with children on average. Also, much more introverted than blacks.

    Yeah but those traits aren’t what you look for in casting; plus blaq women can have more impressive physiques that viewers would like. Idk which I’d prefer to bleach: blaq women have awful personalities, but they might bear me a pro-athlete son (or daughter), sure Steve can appreciate that as well.

  137. @Jack D
    This is certainly a new situation. It's not like Jews have been running Hollywood studios from Day 1. Oh, no wait, they have.

    You and Mel Gibson can go and make your own white friendly Jew free movies and put them in the theaters and if this is what people want to see they will flock to them and all the Jew owned studios will have to go out of business.

    Mel Gibson who made buddy cop movies with a kooky black activist actor; the second of which had apartheid South African white villains (Diplomatic Immunity!)??

  138. Anyone who likes the Smiths should check out the cover band “Sweet and Tender Hooligans” on youtube. The lead singer is an L.A. lifeguard who does an amazing Morrisey act complete with throwing flowers to the audience. The bass player is Joe Escalante from the Vandals. All band members are hispanic from what I can tell, and once in a while the songs are sung in Spanish. They’re awfully good, and just plain fun as well.

  139. Just as blacks are always victims–never perpetrators–of black-on-black crime, latinos are always the victims when they go drinking and driving. Which is to say just about every day of the year. With more and more of them on the roads nowadays, I really want to know why we don’t have jersey barriers instead of just double yellow line separating oncoming traffic. Between drunken latinos and texting bimbos the next SUV you see may well have your name on it.

    Oh, and here’s Ann today: https://vdare.com/articles/ann-coulter-labor-day-safety-tip-watch-out-for-drunk-driving-illegal-aliens

  140. @ricpic
    Anyone here agree that No Country For Old Men (the film version) was, among other things, a lament over the Mexican invasion?

    I agree.

  141. @Harry Baldwin
    How about that other great Mexican actor, Eli Wallach? And who can forget Marlon Brando as Emiliano Zapata or Yul Brynner, Telly Savalas, and Wallace Beery as Pancho Villa?

    No Hollywood film ever employed more actual Mexicans than Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch, though Wild Bunch member "Angel" was played by a Puerto Rican.

    The only great Mexican-American actor I can think of off the top of my head is Anthony Quinn & he usually played anything but a Mexican.

  142. @Marty
    Jack, serious question: could a Sausalito lawyer named Bill Gordon possibly be Jewish?

    Maybe yes, maybe no. Gordon is sometimes a Jewish surname but sometimes it isn’t.

  143. @Alden
    Selma Hayek has no Spanish, Latin American Indian or any kind of Hispanic blood.

    Dad’s Czech (German). Mom’s a White Lebanese Christian ancient Canaanite, not Arab.

    She gets her coloring from Mom, that perfect face from Central European Dad.

    You are incorrect. First, it is Salma, as I spelled it (not “Selma” like the Alabama town), secondly, her father is Lebanese (Hayak), and thirdly her mother (Diana Jiménez Medina) is a Mexican of mixed Mexican (partial mestizo ancestry) and Spanish from the Medina family (with some potential Jewish heritage). She’s a pretty well known opera singer from back in the day and she is clearly mixed (high caste Mestiza)

    You have no idea what you are talking about.

  144. @Alden
    Another sad old virgin bachelor heard from.

    Three Questions

    1. How many White children have you bred and raised?

    2 Where in the world do you live that you see so many White mothers with black kids?

    3 Are you gay?

    I never observed many White mothers with Black kids. I did mean to suggest that many white women are having mulatto children. But there are some white women having children with Black men. The percentage of such women is small , about 5% , but not insignificant. Pew Research Center released a report finding that 25% of Black male newlyweds in 2013 married non-Black women and 80% of those women were White and 10% were hispanic. Black women were the least likely to marry non-Black men at only 7%, and only 4% were married to White men. https://blackdemographics.com/households/marriage-in-black-america/

    While about 4% of white women will marry a black man, there are more white women having children with Black men than marrying Black men. About 5% of white females will have a black child according to Pew researchers. I would not quantify this as many. From 2000-2010 white women had 21 million children and 5% of these babies had a black father which resulted in 1.1 million mulatto children born from 2000-2010.
    According to the 2010 Census, the population reporting multiple races (9.0 million) grew by 32% from 2000 to 2010, while the number of whites grew by 2%. The white and black (mulatto) population, grew by 1.1 million and increased by 134 percent; https://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/race/cb12-182.html
    I do not oppose inter-racial marriages and have never made a moral judgement about white women who marry Black men. If Blacks stopped marrying each other and only married non-blacks the United States may be a better place in 100 years, as there would be fewer Negroes , although more mulattos. This would be a beneficial trade-off. Is it better for a white women to have a mulatto child than to die childless ?

    I am married with 3 children most people consider my children to be white, although my wife is from Chile. Two of my 3 children have blue eyes one has green eyes like my wife. Even my wife does not appear to be hispanic although DNA tests revealed she is 16% Amerindian. She still denies having any indigenous blood, as do her siblings and parents. In fact, having been going too Chile for 20 years and never one met a Chilean who would admit having any Amerindian ancestry, and they would be deeply offended if you ask them if they had any Indian heritage. Certainly people like my wife would be offended if Hollywood had more mestizo actors in films. They would rather see less mestizos and more whites in hollywood films. Not sure if Mexicans feel the same, but assume they would rather have more white Hispanics in films and no mestizos. They want to be seen as white not amerindian.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Chile is a little different than Mexico in that the % of Indian blood is smaller (although on the average more like 30% rather than your wife's 15%) and that, as you say, Chileans are in total denial about this. Indian are half naked people dressed in loincloths who live in the jungle. I am European. We go to church and speak Spanish. But you have straight black hair and bronze skin? So what - there are NO Indians in my family for as far back as anyone knows.

    The average Mexican is more like 50/50 and it is widely understood and taught as part of their national identity that Mexicans are native/Spanish hybrids and not a pure European people.

    It's fair to consider your children to be white. Once you get down below 1/8th of some other race, that race usually becomes (visually) undetectable, even if the 1/8th is black. For Indian or Asian, in almost all cases.

  145. And when they are in movies they are either gang members or landscapers….

  146. @peterike

    Yes, thank God for the moral force of the Catholic Church in America. They saved us from Jew peddled smut and from child molestation. Oh no wait, maybe not the child molestation part.
     
    The pre-Vatican II Catholic Church -- the one that gave us the Hayes Code -- was quite a bit different from the miserable failure that came afterwards. The seminaries had not yet been taken over by homosexuals, and if the local priest found out about child molestation, he'd probably get a group of local toughs together to "pay a visit" to whoever it was.

    Some say that Vatican II was influenced by Jews. I have no knowledge either way, but it sure seems bent that way.

    Where were the WASPs in all of this when the Catholics were telling the Jews what to do?

     

    Some supported it. Many were out to lunch.

    When did WASP America start to abdicate running America and start letting loudmouth minorities set the agenda?
     
    It started in the early 1900s, picked up when Wilson let the Jews bum-rush America into WWI and sprang the Fed on us. It increased rapidly in the 20s and 30s, and by the 40s the FDR administration was chock-a-block with Communist Jews.

    But real Jewish cultural power came with the advent of television. By the 1950s the WASP ruling class was pretty much over, but cultural changes have to shift a lot of inertia, so it took some time. By the early 1970s the cultural takeover was pretty much complete, and everything since has been more or less controlled by Jews, or representing a Jewish agenda.

    But then, you know all this. You're just a dissembling phony.

    and if the local priest found out about child molestation, he’d probably get a group of local toughs together to “pay a visit” to whoever it was.

    What if it was the priest himself? Would he order the thugs to beat him up too?

    “Father” Geoghan, one of the most notorious molesters, was ordained in 1962 so you can’t blame him on Vatican II. Vatican II was evolutionary, not revolutionary. After Vatican II the same priests and hierarchy were in place as before. No one lost their job.

    As for Vatican II being influenced by Joos, that’s hilarious. Joos – they’re everywhere, even inside the Vatican, in Wilson’s cabinet, inside your TeeVee set. Is there anything (bad) that Jews AREN’T responsible for? That would be a shorter list.

    • Replies: @Anon
    What if it was the rabbi?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse_cases_in_Brooklyn%27s_Haredi_community
  147. @Jack D

    and if the local priest found out about child molestation, he’d probably get a group of local toughs together to “pay a visit” to whoever it was.
     
    What if it was the priest himself? Would he order the thugs to beat him up too?

    "Father" Geoghan, one of the most notorious molesters, was ordained in 1962 so you can't blame him on Vatican II. Vatican II was evolutionary, not revolutionary. After Vatican II the same priests and hierarchy were in place as before. No one lost their job.

    As for Vatican II being influenced by Joos, that's hilarious. Joos - they're everywhere, even inside the Vatican, in Wilson's cabinet, inside your TeeVee set. Is there anything (bad) that Jews AREN'T responsible for? That would be a shorter list.
  148. @Travis
    I never observed many White mothers with Black kids. I did mean to suggest that many white women are having mulatto children. But there are some white women having children with Black men. The percentage of such women is small , about 5% , but not insignificant. Pew Research Center released a report finding that 25% of Black male newlyweds in 2013 married non-Black women and 80% of those women were White and 10% were hispanic. Black women were the least likely to marry non-Black men at only 7%, and only 4% were married to White men. https://blackdemographics.com/households/marriage-in-black-america/

    While about 4% of white women will marry a black man, there are more white women having children with Black men than marrying Black men. About 5% of white females will have a black child according to Pew researchers. I would not quantify this as many. From 2000-2010 white women had 21 million children and 5% of these babies had a black father which resulted in 1.1 million mulatto children born from 2000-2010.
    According to the 2010 Census, the population reporting multiple races (9.0 million) grew by 32% from 2000 to 2010, while the number of whites grew by 2%. The white and black (mulatto) population, grew by 1.1 million and increased by 134 percent; https://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/race/cb12-182.html
    I do not oppose inter-racial marriages and have never made a moral judgement about white women who marry Black men. If Blacks stopped marrying each other and only married non-blacks the United States may be a better place in 100 years, as there would be fewer Negroes , although more mulattos. This would be a beneficial trade-off. Is it better for a white women to have a mulatto child than to die childless ?

    I am married with 3 children most people consider my children to be white, although my wife is from Chile. Two of my 3 children have blue eyes one has green eyes like my wife. Even my wife does not appear to be hispanic although DNA tests revealed she is 16% Amerindian. She still denies having any indigenous blood, as do her siblings and parents. In fact, having been going too Chile for 20 years and never one met a Chilean who would admit having any Amerindian ancestry, and they would be deeply offended if you ask them if they had any Indian heritage. Certainly people like my wife would be offended if Hollywood had more mestizo actors in films. They would rather see less mestizos and more whites in hollywood films. Not sure if Mexicans feel the same, but assume they would rather have more white Hispanics in films and no mestizos. They want to be seen as white not amerindian.

    Chile is a little different than Mexico in that the % of Indian blood is smaller (although on the average more like 30% rather than your wife’s 15%) and that, as you say, Chileans are in total denial about this. Indian are half naked people dressed in loincloths who live in the jungle. I am European. We go to church and speak Spanish. But you have straight black hair and bronze skin? So what – there are NO Indians in my family for as far back as anyone knows.

    The average Mexican is more like 50/50 and it is widely understood and taught as part of their national identity that Mexicans are native/Spanish hybrids and not a pure European people.

    It’s fair to consider your children to be white. Once you get down below 1/8th of some other race, that race usually becomes (visually) undetectable, even if the 1/8th is black. For Indian or Asian, in almost all cases.

  149. @Intelligent Dasein
    Unlike the white/black distinction, the Hispanic race really is a "social construct." If it were not for contemporary grievance politics and propaganda, Hispanics would not think of themselves as, and would not be thought of as, much different from ordinary white Americans.

    This goes doubly so for Asians, even though Asiatic actually is a race. Provided their numbers don't swell indefinitely through immigration, our Asian contingents will intermarry and fade away into the white majority with hardly a disturbance.

    High immigration rates are a temporary artifact of globalism and, even though they seem like a permanent feature of the political landscape today, they will stop (and the quicker than most can imagine). In another hundred years, the descendants of today's whites, Asians, and Hispanics will all be "white," both culturally and phenotypically. Only the blacks will remain forever different.

    Serious question: precisely why will the blacks remain forever different? (And I agree that they will).

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    I have thought about your query for awhile before attempting a response, and it's a difficult one. It is hard to think of an answer which actually sheds new light on the matter and which doesn't sound like merely a florid redescription of the problem. Would you believe me if I said that African people appear to be under some kind of curse?

    To put it another way, I would say that "African-ness"---i.e. whatever that essential quality is that makes black people what they are---is simply not civilizable. It appears to be headed off in a direction incompatible with true humanity. There is not a single society anywhere on Earth which wants or needs more Africans, or that would not be better off without the Africans it already has. This is quite a damning judgment. The sons of Ham are incapable of becoming useful and productive citizens.

    The one and only cure for this is miscegenation. Blacks have to be bred out of existence in the Western lands. If all black males were castrated, incarcerated, or removed, and all black females were impregnated by white or Asian men, then our black problem would be gone within two generations. But for various reasons, this solution is incapable of being tried. It isn't moral and it isn't within the scope of human action.

    Perhaps the best existing practical solution is to pursue a policy of rigorous law enforcement against black criminality (which would have the effect of removing many black males from the mating pool during their reproductive years) combined with an unofficial willingness to continue feeding the more trashy and undesirable white women to the black males capable of staying out of jail. An underclass of octoroons is infinitely more manageable than the blacks we currently have, and is the only way forward which doesn't run afoul of basic human decency.
    , @BB753
    Genetic distance from the rest of humanity.
  150. @Whitemanzen
    Those an Indians not Latinas.

    Those an Indians not Latinas.

    Most Latinx are Amerinds/Mestizos. The USA isn’t getting a steady stream of White women from Spain:

  151. @Old Palo Altan
    Serious question: precisely why will the blacks remain forever different? (And I agree that they will).

    I have thought about your query for awhile before attempting a response, and it’s a difficult one. It is hard to think of an answer which actually sheds new light on the matter and which doesn’t sound like merely a florid redescription of the problem. Would you believe me if I said that African people appear to be under some kind of curse?

    To put it another way, I would say that “African-ness”—i.e. whatever that essential quality is that makes black people what they are—is simply not civilizable. It appears to be headed off in a direction incompatible with true humanity. There is not a single society anywhere on Earth which wants or needs more Africans, or that would not be better off without the Africans it already has. This is quite a damning judgment. The sons of Ham are incapable of becoming useful and productive citizens.

    The one and only cure for this is miscegenation. Blacks have to be bred out of existence in the Western lands. If all black males were castrated, incarcerated, or removed, and all black females were impregnated by white or Asian men, then our black problem would be gone within two generations. But for various reasons, this solution is incapable of being tried. It isn’t moral and it isn’t within the scope of human action.

    Perhaps the best existing practical solution is to pursue a policy of rigorous law enforcement against black criminality (which would have the effect of removing many black males from the mating pool during their reproductive years) combined with an unofficial willingness to continue feeding the more trashy and undesirable white women to the black males capable of staying out of jail. An underclass of octoroons is infinitely more manageable than the blacks we currently have, and is the only way forward which doesn’t run afoul of basic human decency.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    Would I agree with you that African people appear to be under some kind of curse?

    I certainly would - it is in fact the opinion I hoped to hear from you. All of history proves it; no race has been so badly treated by all the forces of heaven and earth. God appears to love them little; their fellow men despise and reject (and enslave) them. No other race admires or wishes to be close to then: the very definition of accursed.

    Political wisdom is to note this fact and to take account of it. Our age wants nothing of the wisdom of the ages, and the results are plain to see.

    Perhaps the cold eye of the Orient will put an end to the conundrum once for all.
  152. @Intelligent Dasein
    I have thought about your query for awhile before attempting a response, and it's a difficult one. It is hard to think of an answer which actually sheds new light on the matter and which doesn't sound like merely a florid redescription of the problem. Would you believe me if I said that African people appear to be under some kind of curse?

    To put it another way, I would say that "African-ness"---i.e. whatever that essential quality is that makes black people what they are---is simply not civilizable. It appears to be headed off in a direction incompatible with true humanity. There is not a single society anywhere on Earth which wants or needs more Africans, or that would not be better off without the Africans it already has. This is quite a damning judgment. The sons of Ham are incapable of becoming useful and productive citizens.

    The one and only cure for this is miscegenation. Blacks have to be bred out of existence in the Western lands. If all black males were castrated, incarcerated, or removed, and all black females were impregnated by white or Asian men, then our black problem would be gone within two generations. But for various reasons, this solution is incapable of being tried. It isn't moral and it isn't within the scope of human action.

    Perhaps the best existing practical solution is to pursue a policy of rigorous law enforcement against black criminality (which would have the effect of removing many black males from the mating pool during their reproductive years) combined with an unofficial willingness to continue feeding the more trashy and undesirable white women to the black males capable of staying out of jail. An underclass of octoroons is infinitely more manageable than the blacks we currently have, and is the only way forward which doesn't run afoul of basic human decency.

    Would I agree with you that African people appear to be under some kind of curse?

    I certainly would – it is in fact the opinion I hoped to hear from you. All of history proves it; no race has been so badly treated by all the forces of heaven and earth. God appears to love them little; their fellow men despise and reject (and enslave) them. No other race admires or wishes to be close to then: the very definition of accursed.

    Political wisdom is to note this fact and to take account of it. Our age wants nothing of the wisdom of the ages, and the results are plain to see.

    Perhaps the cold eye of the Orient will put an end to the conundrum once for all.

  153. @Old Palo Altan
    Serious question: precisely why will the blacks remain forever different? (And I agree that they will).

    Genetic distance from the rest of humanity.

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