The most evil thing about them is they will only recognize evil once the evildoer is no longer useful to them. So who right now is abusing children, but is still useful to them?

LOL!

I once worked for a couple of years in an institution for sexual predators, and I guess a lot of inmates must have been students of Foucault, because they came out with very similar arguments at their trials, that those five year olds were really gagging for a shag.

However, to be fair, there is not much to do at night in Tunisia.

Po-Mo chomo.

This sort of thing is not that scandalous in France. Former French President François Mitterrand’s nephew, Frederic, was Sarkozy’s Minister of Culture and a famous writer and media celebrity. He didn’t lose his Minister job or face much repercussions after his pedophilia became public.

https://www.ibtimes.com/strange-case-frederic-mitterrand-frances-most-famous-alleged-pedophile-845349

Frédéric Mitterrand has occupied the highest reaches of cultural and political life in France. Nephew of former President François Mitterrand, Frédéric Mitterrand has not only served as Minister of Culture and Communication but also achieved success as an actor, writer, producer, director, film critic, television star and even college professor.

Born to greatness and confidante to many of France’s biggest luminaries, Frédéric is a genuine renaissance man.

However, he is also a pedophile, as he openly admitted in an autobiographical novel called “La Mauvaise Vie” (“The Bad Life”), which detailed his experiences in male brothels of Bangkok, Thailand.

“I got into the habit of paying for boys … The profusion of young, very attractive and immediately available boys put me in a state of desire I no longer needed to restrain or hide,” he wrote.

“All these rituals of the market for youths, the slave market, excite me enormously. One could judge this abominable spectacle from a moral standpoint, but it pleases me beyond the reasonable.”

A best seller in 2005, the book was widely praised for its candor.

Frederic’s profile (or notoriety) was raised further when he defended the American film director, Roman Polanski, who fled to exile in Europe to escape charges of having raped an underage girl in Los Angeles. At the time, Polanski was arrested by police in Switzerland at the request of U.S. officials — the Swiss later denied the extradition request and freed him.

Despite all these revelations, Frederic somehow kept his job as culture minister until May 2012 when Nicolas Sarkozy (his friend and benefactor) lost his bid for re-election as president.

Frederic even survived the vitriol of Marine Le Pen, the firebrand leader of the extreme right-wing National Front Party, who vociferously called for his resignation, citing his predilection for sex with young boys.

During a television appearance, Le Pen even recited lascivious passages from Frederic’s book.

Not to be outdone in the morality sweepstakes, the left-wing Socialists also urged his removal from government.

“As a minister of culture he has drawn attention to himself by defending a film maker, and he has written a book where he said he took advantage of sexual tourism. To say the least, I find it shocking,” said Benoit Hamon, a spokesman for the Socialist party.

For unknown reasons, Sarkozy refused to sack Frederic and shrugged off all attacks on his appointee. Sarkozy even described Frederic’s book as “courageous.”

This shouldn’t be even be news: French gays have been buggering boys in Northern Africa for over a century, well before Nobel prize and early gay icon André Gide famously toured the region. And not only Frenchmen: why do you think William Burroughs set up shop in Tangiers during the fifties?
Morocco, Tunisia, etc are still preferred sex tourism destinations for European gays. Many Arab teenagers and young men make a living out of hustling and selling their bodies.

It is hard to decide whom to despise more: the child molesters who sexually abuse children, taking advantage of a very young person or the language perverters who wittingly destroy the meaning of words like rape.

Rape always has a connotation of physical violence.

By conflating the violent with the nonviolent crime, violence is rendered less repulsive, as if physical coercion had no importance for our moral judement of an evil deed.

A plague on both your houses.

It drove the manly, healthy Palestinian Edward Said crazy that gay European intellectuals like Foucault routinely went on boy-bothering excursions to his Arab world.

Said wrote about this in one of his books, discussing the novel The Immoralist by Andre Gide. Gide is considered one of the greatest French writers of the 20th century and won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1947. The Immoralist is about a French intellectual who travels around North Africa and is into Arab boys.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Immoralist#Critical_analysis

Gide wrote in his autobiography, published 20 years before he was awarded the Nobel, about how he and Oscar Wilde traveled abroad for encounters with boys:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_Gide#Sexuality

In his journal, Gide distinguishes between adult-attracted “sodomites” and boy-loving “pederasts”, categorizing himself as the latter.

I call a pederast the man who, as the word indicates, falls in love with young boys. I call a sodomite (“The word is sodomite, sir,” said Verlaine to the judge who asked him if it were true that he was a sodomist) the man whose desire is addressed to mature men. […] The pederasts, of whom I am one (why cannot I say this quite simply, without your immediately claiming to see a brag in my confession?), are much rarer, and the sodomites much more numerous, than I first thought. […] That such loves can spring up, that such relationships can be formed, it is not enough for me to say that this is natural; I maintain that it is good; each of the two finds exaltation, protection, a challenge in them; and I wonder whether it is for the youth or the elder man that they are more profitable.[38]

One, but not the first, of his early sexual encounters with a young boy was in the company of Oscar Wilde.

Wilde took a key out of his pocket and showed me into a tiny apartment of two rooms… The youths followed him, each of them wrapped in a burnous that hid his face. Then the guide left us and Wilde sent me into the further room with little Mohammed and shut himself up in the other with the [other boy]. Every time since then that I have sought after pleasure, it is the memory of that night I have pursued. […] My joy was unbounded, and I cannot imagine it greater, even if love had been added. How should there have been any question of love? How should I have allowed desire to dispose of my heart? No scruple clouded my pleasure and no remorse followed it. But what name then am I to give the rapture I felt as I clasped in my naked arms that perfect little body, so wild, so ardent, so sombrely lascivious? For a long time after Mohammed had left me, I remained in a state of passionate jubilation, and though I had already achieved pleasure five times with him, I renewed my ecstasy again and again, and when I got back to my room in the hotel, I prolonged its echoes until morning.[39]

Gide’s novel Corydon, which he considered his most important work, erects a defense of pederasty. At that time, the age of consent for any type of sexual activity was set at thirteen.

We live in an evil world.

What happened to Larry Brinkin, who kick-started the movement towards gay marriage? I don’t hear his name anymore.

This sort of thing is not that scandalous in France. Former French President François Mitterrand’s nephew, Frederic, was Sarkozy’s Minister of Culture and a famous writer and media celebrity. He didn’t lose his Minister job or face much repercussions after his pedophilia became public.

Yet now they have Macron with his old-woman fetish 🙂

North Africa was the place for gay European intellectuals to go because you could get away with pretty much anything there, rather how Mexico once served bohemian American artists like William Burroughs, who got away with shooting his wife in the head in Mexico City in 1945

Burroughs moved on from spouse killing in Mexico to child rape in Morocco. “The Naked Lunch” includes several florid descriptions of Burroughs’s buggering Arab boys. Another American author and child rapist was Paul Bowles, whose salad days in Tangiers overlapped those of Foucalt and Burroughs. He reprises his adventures in child rape in several short stories and novellas. These were all evil men but the western intelligentsia adulate them. Over the past two centuries Western culture became infested with parasites. As these gained dominance they’ve promoted the work of these men not in spite of its amoral perversity but precisely because of it.

It drove the manly, healthy Palestinian Edward Said crazy that gay European intellectuals like Foucault routinely went on boy-bothering excursions to his Arab world.

Yeah well, Arabs themselves have always been buggering boys so Edward Said should just STFU.

Stop victim-blaming. She was 40 when he was her 15-year-old student and after a short grooming period they almost immediately started banging. Did the progressives eventually clutch their pearls over this ephebophilia scandal? They sure did!

“Many commentators have said the obsession with their age gap is an example of deeply ingrained misogyny since men in positions of power are frequently married to much younger women.”—London Independent.

CLOWN WORLD

To be fair, many Euro gays have had sex with Arab boys in North Africa (even those who I admire, like E.M. Forster). It was a usual route of sex initiation for intellectual pederasts like Andre Gide, Forster & certainly many others.

Foucault was a piece of garbage- unlike Forster- but, while I find this whole stuff repulsive, I would not judge this too harshly. Pederasty has long since been entrenched in Arab-Islamic world, I don’t know whether these boys were victims. Perhaps we apply our modern standards & sensibility to another historical & cultural situation?

So, while I do not condemn Forster & Gide & Foucault for this particular issue, I must admit it all is highly unpalatable.

I’ve skimmed, perhaps 10-15 years ago, through an autobiographical novel of a French Arab author (I forgot his name, but he could be Mohamed Choukri -or I am wrong?). Anyway, this Arab author depicts vividly how, after he found himself on the streets, he lives in constant fear of being anally raped by grown ups, exclusively Arabs.

I don’t have anything against gays, but one should be fair & admit that the pederastic element in their community is absolutely unacceptable to modern civilized world and that those who promote any kind of pedophilia- and I mean real pedophilia- should be punished, as well as mega-promoters of incest (one can see such ideology at work in the Netherlands & Sweden).

Sartre, Foucault, de Beauvoir (and one should add Arthur Koestler & a few others) are morally corrupt to an astonishing degree.

Among intellectuals, only Albert Camus has, in my mind, retained a moral stature. Never mind his infidelities.

Sartre I think once said that his whole intellectual life was just a way to get pussy, but he seemed to have liked ones with hair on it.

For a long time my extremely useful rule of thumb has been: there is no high culture. Any high falutin principles are a smokescreen for the same things we all want: I want to fuck, I want to be popular, I want to have power.

Steve Sailer:

“It drove the *manly healthy* Palestinian Edward Said crazy that gay European intellectuals like Foucault routinely went on boy-bothering excursions to his Arab world. Said put on the cover of his most …”

While I deplore pedophiles of any sort, I find your wording interesting here. By saying “manly” and “healthy” you are making a value-judgement of a person’s character and mental health based on their sexuality and degree of gender-conformism.

The impression I get is that you dislike Foucault not merely for him being supposedly a pedophile, but for just being a homosexual, stating that straight men are manlier than gays and that, because of this, that makes them healthier and superior.

You turn-off a lot of people that might agree with the kernel of your argument and what you are saying with these side-step comments where you make it clear that your motivation for making the statements that you do are not purely for the reason stated by you(that the man might have been a pedophile, and that pedophilia is repulsive, which it is), but just because the person you are criticising belongs to a category of people that you, as a conservative, dislike on a *visceral* level.

I was agreeing you with until you made that side-step comment, where you made it clear that you think heterosexual men, because of their sexuality, are healthier and superior to homosexuals. There is a *huge* difference between a man prefering to have sex with other consenting adult men and a man preying on children. One is consensual and equal, while the other is exploitative and unequal. Big difference.

…Foucault, who died in 1984 aged 57, was a paedophile rapist who had sex with Arab children while living in Tunisia in the late 1960s.

Well, what is Tunisia– and Algeria and Morocco– for, if not that? It’s not like the French brought anything new to them:

https://www.definitions.net/definition/Sotadic+zone

Indeed, it’s like slavery– the white man’s innovation is the thought that it just might be wrong. Something that never occurred to the natives. Think about it– the Frags had to leave their country to get their jollies.

Why didn’t the Araboys just tell him to foucaultff?

Today, though, it’s Foucault’s fans who have the whip hand.

They might prefer a Slave Paddle. Which can brand the victim, temporarily at least.

The boy bothering incidents in history seem tend to get memory-holed.

In Canada the native residential school sex abuse scandal tended to be a male child sex abuse scandal, yet it gets referred to as the “residential school sex abuse scandal” thereby obscuring what occurred. IN fact it was in part an extension of the Catholic Church sex abuse scandal as they had control of many of the institutions, along with other denominations, and staffed them with priests. The Catholic Church’s scandal in turn was also memory-holed as a generic sex scandal, when it was overwhelming boys who were victimized.

The Taliban are said to have risen to power by clamping down on boy-bothering and Bach Bazi that was endemic amongst Afghan elites. There were reports from returning NATO soldiers that Bach Bazi had returned, but there was very little coverage in the West.

Is it because attention to these scandals make the wrong people look bad?

Pomo and critical theory work on exactly the same nihilistic sea lawyer logic one hears from pedophiles and serial killers.

Breaking News: Ghislaine Maxwell, the longtime associate of Jeffrey Epstein, was charged in federal court for the first time with sex-trafficking of a minor. https://t.co/uxOPl3kKoM

— The New York Times (@nytimes) March 29, 2021

When you ponder why anyone would want dry, arid regions like Algeria or Morocco for colonies, it begins to look like gays in the government pushed for seizing them solely for sexual tourism purposes. As France became more modern in the 1800s and the lower classes gained more power and rights, it also became more difficult for the elite to get away with raping native French boys, so they looked for alternatives.

Guillotine! Guillotine!

Which is my way of asking, “Who will play the role of Robespierre?”

OT: Bill Krystal wants to annex Cuba and make it a state.

It would be really nice if the Men Of UNZ don’t jump in to defend Epstein and Maxwell by claiming that 14 year old prostitutes deserve no protection. And or that prostitution pimping pandering and transporting prostitutes across state lines laws are obsolete and wrong . For such a fuddy duddy petty bourgeois group, it’s strange so many Men of UNZ defend pimping sex trafficking and blackmail for the greater glory of Israel.

Anti tattoo but pro under age prostitution. Strange

Foucault himself once said:

In a sense, all the rest of my life I’ve been trying to do intellectual things that would attract beautiful boys.

If he was alive today, he could skip the intellectual things and just start doing Drag Queen Story Hours at the local library.

The fact that he tops Google Scholar’s list of most cited academics tells you everything you need to know about Homo Academicus.

So did Thomas Jefferson, Adams and others. They thought it should be just another American off shore Island

Actually, that looks like a Slave Slapstick. Who says slavery can’t be comical?

Michel Foucault spent his younger years trying to come to grips with his way above average brightness and with his destructive longings. He maneuvered on the brink of mental illness, suicide, sadism, sadomasochism for years. His father was a well-known surgeon – a classical and perfectly acceptable solution. His son soon volunteered in psychiatric clinics, looking for his personal – relief. One of the places he stayed was the clinic in little Münsterlingen, very scenically situated at the border of the Lake of Constance in Eastern Switzerland, where the Rorschach-Test had been invented and – the first antidepressant was detected by Professor Roland Kuhn in 1956 ff. Roland Kuhn was also a philosophically inclined psychiatrist, who in this field worked together with psychiatrist Ludwig Binswanger, who had developed the Dasiensanalyse (analysis of being here (now, so to add)). Freud did correspond with Binswanger and visited him, as did – tout le monde, almost:  Edmund Husserl, Max Scheler, Martin Heidegger, Karl Löwith, Martin Buber, Werner Bergengruen,  Rudolf Alexander Schröder, Henry van de Velde, Aby Warburg, Wilhelm Furtwängler, Emil Staiger et tutti quanti. – Foucault had made a decent choice indeed with Münsterlingen/Kreuzlingen/ Rorschach in Eastern Switzerland.

PS
The well-known Gerrman painter and photographer Matthias Holländer literally grew up in Binswanger’s posh private psychiatric clinic – and did photograph it and paint it too. 
https://www.matthias-hollaender.com/

French philosopher Michel Foucault ‘abused boys in Tunisia’

He wanted to wring the toxic masculinity out of them early!

It won’t be long before the Left figures out how to spin child molestation as the molester assuming the role of a child’s spirit-guide to aid in determining with what gender the child decides to identify.

Let’s Play Queer Theory Jeopardy!

The US had that chance in the early 20th century; now it would be better off annexing Mexico.

“Did Foucault happen to dream up his ideas first and only then realize that his logic proved that it should be legal for him to have sex with boys? Or did he want to have sex with boys first and then dreamt up his vast system of justification?”

You give him too much credit. The question is an idle one unless his arguments had some merit; then the whole “how can such a genius be so evil” question becomes an issue for his devotees (e.g., Heidegger the enthusiastic Nazi).

Foucault, however, was a mere sophist, spinning skeins of bullshit that Europeans (and American’s with Euro-envy) seem to fall for.

“Foucault was an evil man”

How can anyone not love such a punim?

Too late. The Cubans have already annexed the southern part of Florida.

In America pedophiles apparently just go to Missouri and work in Christian summer camps. See Pete Newman and Kanakuk.

E. Michael Jones has a lot to say about Foucault in his books and podcasts.

Logos Rising: A History of Ultimate Reality (South Bend; Fidelity Press), pp. 697-698:

Michel Foucault began life on July 15, 1926 in Paris, France as the son of a prominent surgeon. God, Sigmund Freud said, is an exalted father, and this seems to have been the case with Foucault, who, in spite of “attending Mass on Sundays” as “a family ritual,” grew to detest his father and the God he represented . Being forced to watch his father cut off a leg confirmed Foucault’s feeling, as conveyed to his long-term homosexual companion Daniel Defert, that his father was “a violent man,” who would symbolize everything Foucault hated about the therapeutic Enlightenment state and its substitution of technology for morality.

Michel Foucault’s disturbed relationship to his father led to his homosexuality, which, during his adolescent years, led to repeated attempts at suicide beginning in 1948:

Over the next few years, more suicide attempts followed — how many is unclear. He tried slashing his wrists. He joked about hanging himself. The idea obsessed him. His father, alarmed, arranged for him to be evaluated at the Hospital Saint-Anne by one of the leading lights of modern French psychiatry, Jean Delay. When, to the surprise of everyone, Foucault failed to pass the agrégation on his first attempt in 1950, one of his teachers, worried that the distraught student might commit yet another “blunder” asked a classmate to keep a check on him. To the end of his life, Foucault defended “everyone’s right to kill himself,” as he cheerfully told a startled interviewer in 1983. Suicide, he wrote in another essay, published in 1979, was “the simplest of pleasures.” [James Miller, The Passion of Michel Foucault (Simon and Schuster, 1993), p. 54

In an essay on suicide which he wrote five years before his death, Foucault claimed, in an uncanny replication of an idea that found its first expression in the epistles of Sts. Paul and James that: “Instead of marrying the opposite sex. [homosexuals] marry death. But they are just as incapable of dying as they are of really living. In this risible game, homosexuals and suicide discredit each other.” [Miller, p. 55]

Foucault merged his experiences in the homosexual demimonde and the psychiatric treatment which followed from them with the writines of Nietzsche, Georges Bataille, and the Marquis de Sade and confected out of them an ideology which valorized outsiders like “venereal patients, homosexuals, blasphemers [and] libertine alchemists” as bearers of knowledge and social revolution. Foucault became fascinated with madness and its treatment, convinced that the only reason anyone became “tenants of the madhouse” was because “their sins of ‘unreason’ brought them there.” “Madness fascinates,” he wrote, “because it is knowledge,” but it was useful knowledge.

According to Jones it was Joseph Buttigieg (father of Mayor Secretary Pete), a big fan of Foucault, who through his “Foucauldian project” was behind the evisceration of the humanities in the university. Btw, Jones lives three houses down from Joe Buttigieg in South Bend and Jones in various podcasts has some funny anecdotes about Joe and Pete.

I was in Hollywood yesterday, was struck by how much it a dump it was. I saw a bunch of people with homemade anti sex trafficking signs. I wondered if they were Qtards or PoundMeTooers but realized there was little difference in the two.

Islam is right about rooftops.

Yet now they have Macron with his old-woman fetish.

I presume–absent any further knowledge–that Macron’s fetish was for Brigitte in particular–hot for the teacher. Though it likely had some sort of weird authority figure aspect.

What Macron did is unnatural/disordered. And he has no children as a result. But it is simply not the perversion with now see thrust front and center across the West … by those who hate a healthy, fertile West.

Totally off topic, but an Asian Man got punched in the face in NW DC today.

They are not giving a description of the perp, sooooooo.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/man-punched-in-face-in-unprovoked-attack-in-the-middle-of-the-day-police-say/ar-BB1f5GLG?ocid=msedgntp

Homosexuality is the original crime against humanity.

The age of consent should be 18, with a generous ‘Romeo and Juliet’ clause to make sure no 18 year old goes to jail for whatever consensual things they might get up to with their prom date. Anything else is just predatory pedos trying to justify wanting to fuck other people’s children.
But of course, we are going in the opposite direction, with the ‘enlightened view’ being that we should lower the age to acknowledge the reality that teens are sexually active. We acknowledge that (even if we don’t like the thought of it when it comes to our own kids), and that’s why we want the age set higher, so teens can safely experiment WITH OTHER TEENS.
If Republicans really want to take back power, this is the issue, not trannies in sport.

This is the product of months of work with @NancyAFrench. The inside story of the worst sex abuse scandal you’ve never heard of. How a super-predator was able to operate in an immense Christian camp for a decade-plus despite red flag after red flag: https://t.co/kQyXo3WjMJ

— David French (@DavidAFrench) March 28, 2021

»shooting his wife in the head in Mexico City in 1945«

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Vollmer
»Joan Vollmer (February 4, 1923 – September 6, 1951) … In 1951, Burroughs killed Vollmer in what he first admitted to and shortly thereafter denied as a drunken attempt at playing William Tell. «

»Macron with his old-woman fetish.«

I rather don’t think so…

And we wonder why there are islamic fundamentalist .

Paul Bowles is a name that is now obscure to the public but was known to everyone in the intellectual circles of his day. He set up shop in North Africa so he could do what he wanted with little boys and many famous artists and writers visited him there when they heard what was possible.

Arthur C. Clarke of course found his own home away from home for raping little boys and also attracted some visitors for that reason.

The philosopher Michel Foucault, a beacon of today’s “woke” ideology, has become the latest prominent French figure to face a retrospective reckoning for sexually abusing children.

Were the boys children or teenagers?

Today was the first day of the Chauvin trial.

Liveblogged at:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/03/live-chauvin-trial-day-1-opening-statements/

Islam is right about rooftops.

“And because I was not offended by syndicated FOX trash TV sitcoms beamed over satellite to the Middle East at the end of the 90’s (and maybe because I secretly enjoyed seeing Christina Applegate in streetwalker-wear), when SEAL TEAM 6 came for Bin Laden I did not speak out.”

Has anyone else here approached the Sharia Singularity yet, where the prospect of life as a dhimmi under Muslim domination appears as if it could not possibly be worse than whatever the Woke Freak Cabal has in store?

Maybe it s time to rehabilitate the image of a National Socialist SA leader Ernst Rohm

He was Gay

And also a real socialist

OT:
It’s 2021 and Hollywood execs are powerless against even a single person in the room bringing up Supergirl being a an obvious celebration of Northern European or maybe more precisely WHG/EHG and or Yamanya beauty and blonde hair and this being problematic so that they’ve decided to cast a mestizo Colombian-American as the new film Supergirl. Her previous credits are just The Young And The Restless so you know they didn’t do it because she was just such a superb actress. So much money left on the table.

Nationality doesn’t come into it, I think.

See

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Short_Walk_in_the_Hindu_Kush

for several “humorous” references to the sexual abuse of young boys in Iran and Afghanistan in the late 1950s. The traffic to Kabul in the age of “flower power” was probably as much to do with the ready access to youngsters (boys) sporting roses in their hair as to the availability of weed.

And North Africa was notorious as a destination for pederasts throughout the twentieth century.

In light of ‘Orientalism’ being brought up earlier, that map very closely but not precisely (India is excluded) includes much of non-North Western Eurasia was defined as the subject of Orientalism. Said braced at all of the ‘East’ being seen as one topic of study without realising that from a North West European perspective there was a big and common social structure that appeared in all that didn’t in Western Europe.

Immigrants in the West today even note this with many Indian and Chinese immigrants noticing how similar their values and attitudes are. It’s really just a constellation of ‘low trust’ social traits. To the West, the East really did look very similar in big social ways such as more authoritarian social structures to keep the peace of social defection. Maybe call it turbo agriculturalist civilisation. Said didn’t see this.

Or become gay activists and mayors of Seattle.

Yet now they have Macron with his old-woman fetish

Isn’t she his beard rather than his bird?

Yes.

Those who care, already knew he was a sick degenerate demon. Those who don’t care, won’t care, no matter what.

Jesus, what a creepy comment.

I’d never heard of the Foucault fellow before, only the pendulum guy. However, I have read a little bit about William Burroughs when I was looking up some information about the Beat poets, Beat Musicians, etc., for a post called 10,003 Maniacs.

Billy, what a saint they’ve made you,
just like Mary down in Mexico on All Souls’ Day.

I only knew what Natalie Merchant was singing about a few decades later. No matter what the lyrics were, she can belt out a great song, and what a great band!

I always knew Tiny Duck was a closet Nazi at heart.

https://www.dw.com/en/french-incest-scandal-triggers-societal-debate/a-56306263

What those eight-year-old Arab boys saw in those Tunisian cemeteries:

Rape always has a connotation of physical violence.

In Danish, maybe– at voldtage, “to take by violence”. In English, at least legally, it refers to lack of consent, violent or otherwise. Hence, Bill Cosby is wearing orange and a number of many digits, even though there was no violence involved by your definition.

Better to legitimately annex Cuba than de-facto annex Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Israel, Syria, etc.

This is not a great idea given decades of communist rule there, but it’s better than any other idea Kristol has ever come up with.

Nice beaches down there. Less dysfunctional than Puerto Rico. Cuba makes more sense than very culturally and geographically distant Hawaii. Give the Hawaiians their independence for all I care.

That’s right. There’s a line in Ginsberg’s “America”:

Burroughs is in Tangiers I don’t think he’ll come back it’s sinister.

Burroughs likely wasn’t up to an mischief himself, as he was always on the nod.

Of all the Beats, Kerouac stands out as the most talented and least degenerate of the bunch, IMHO. He may have made mistakes, but he was what we’d now label a civ-nat in many ways. For example, he famously objected to seeing an American flag being used as a blanket on a couch (he folded it up and quietly set it aside). He’d served in the Merchant Marines in WW2. I’d absolve ti Jean K.

Ginsberg, on the other hand, shot his load with “America.” It is a great poem, critical of the US but without the sense of belonging that Kerouac possessed. Ginsberg always feels like he’s an outsider complaining, while Kerouac feels like an insider participating. Hell, he played football at Columbia for a bit. He didn’t skulk in his dorm room like a pasty-faced fancy lad.

Sorry, went a bit off-topic.

Andre’ Gide…

…just my opinion, of course…

…nothing more.

Writing an opera to get pussy . . . Bashing someone over the head to get pussy . . . Yep, pretty much the same.

When you ponder why anyone would want dry, arid regions like Algeria or Morocco for colonies, it begins to look like gays in the government pushed for seizing them solely for sexual tourism purposes. As France became more modern in the 1800s and the lower classes gained more power and rights, it also became more difficult for the elite to get away with raping native French boys, so they looked for alternatives.

That and the Preparation H lobby seeking to increase demand for their product.

Who says slavery can’t be comical?

Certainly not Aristophanes.

Nor Plautus.

The impression I get is that you dislike Foucault not merely for him being supposedly a pedophile, but for just being a homosexual, stating that straight men are manlier than gays and that, because of this, that makes them healthier and superior.

i.e. Steve is sane.

The age of consent should be 18, with a generous ‘Romeo and Juliet’ clause to make sure no 18 year old goes to jail for whatever consensual things they might get up to with their prom date. Anything else is just predatory pedos trying to justify wanting to fuck other people’s children.
But of course, we are going in the opposite direction, with the ‘enlightened view’ being that we should lower the age to acknowledge the reality that teens are sexually active.

I would say that lowering the age of consent is not so much new direction as returning to the good old traditional values where marriages at young age (usually of young girls given to older men) were quite common. It’s the idea that one needs to be somehow “emotionally mature” in order to engage in sex that is a historically recent development.

I read somewhere that our “outrage” over Muhammad’s pedophilia only started relatively recently and it’s not because Westerners didn’t read Quran until 9/11 – Western scholars have been seriously studying Islam for at least 200 years . It’s just that nobody cared about some old perv marrying a 9-year old because it was not unheard of in Europe, either.

BTW, “In the United States, more than 200,000 minors were married between 2000 and 2015; most were girls and more than 80% were married to an adult, according to data analyzed by Frontline.” …

I always knew Tiny Duck was a closet Nazi at heart.

With a thing for sailors.

The homosexual act is disgusting.

Dude, you talk like a fag and your shit’s all retarded.

If Foucault built an intellectual framework conducive to his pederastic inclinations might it not be similarly so that Said built up his white-man-cannot-analyse-brown-man theories to stiffen resistance to white pederasts?

PS I recently read La Familia Grande by the daughter of the founder of Doctors-without-borders about how her step-father Olivier Duhamel, a quite famous political analyst, “raped” her twin brother for years when they were young teens. Not deep but very good on the mood music in a fancy intellectual circle of children being treated as sort-of-available sexual beings from an early age. (Her mother, who ignored the incest, had been a Castro groupie.)

I’m the commenter who posted about Bowles below.

I think people who don’t “believe” in “pedo conspiracies” just have a hard time squaring the possibility with the people they interact with in the normal world. In other circles, it’s a different story. The catholic church and communist spy rings are well-documented examples of serious business with dire consequences driven by pederast circles but it’s clearly in the arts as well. Who decided Basquiat was a great artist? The men involved in his sexual perversions, of course.

One of the commentators on Amazon said this book was better; showing how the pederast tricks his young protege into thinking he/she is the wanton partner:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/feb/11/consent-by-vanessa-springora-review-a-memoir-of-lost-adolescence

I see…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke
»Clarke emigrated to Ceylon (now Sri Lanka) in 1956, to pursue his interest in scuba diving.«

Foucault deserved to die from AIDS.

I really can’t tell if you’re being facetious or not regarding Larry Brinkin. I’m going to take it for granted that you know how to Google a person’s name.

Dizzy used to carry a picture of Yasser Arafat in case his plane got hijacked.

I would say that lowering the age of consent is not so much new direction as returning to the good old traditional values where marriages at young age (usually of young girls given to older men) were quite common.

But nobody is doing this to marry these kids, and often it isn’t even the girls that they are after. Talking about the early marrying age of people who rarely finished high school, didn’t have access to birth control, and were dead by fifty is just a distraction. Today, now, in the modern world, the people who want to lower the age of consent are the predators that want to fuck other peoples’ kids.

https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/statistics
New HIV Infections by Race and Transmission Group, U.S. 2010 vs. 2016 (see graph)

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/gender/men
https://archive.vn/wip/j9l36
U.S. Department of Health & Human Services
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
2017:
In 2017, men made up 81% of the 38,739 new HIV diagnoses in the United States and dependent areas.b Most (86%) new diagnoses among men were among gay and bisexual men.

https://archive.vn/MHWg6
2010:
»- Men accounted for 76% of all adults and adolescents living with HIV infection at the end of 2010 in the United States.
– Men who have sex with men account for most new and existing HIV infections among men.
– By race/ethnicity, black men have the highest rates of new HIV infections among all men.«

https://www.ashr.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/sex_in_australia_2_summary_data.pdf
»The Australian Study of Health and Relationships (ASHR) is our most important study of sexual and reproductive health. Conducted once a decade, it provides a snapshot of the sexual health and well-being of the Australian population and provides information essential for the development of policy and the delivery of sexual and reproductive health programs across Australia.

We interviewed 20,094 men and women aged 16–69 between October 2012 and November 2013 using random digit dialling of landline and mobile phones. Computer-assisted interviewing by professional health interviewers tailored the questionnaire to each individual.«

p.2:
»Among men in general, the average (mean) number of lifetime male partners was 3, but among gay and bisexual men it was 96, reflecting higher rates of casual sex between men

Among women in general, the average (mean) number of lifetime female partners was 0.3, but among the lesbian and bisexual women it was 6«

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Average number of same-sex partners:

Gay/Bi man: 96
Lesbian/Bi woman: 6
Men: 3*

* this group includes both gay and heterosexual men, so average number of same-sex partners for heterosexuals should be almost 0. It is easy for men to find people to have casual sex with… if they ask other men.

We lived in Morocco in the 70s, and my mom is something of a fag hag like many upper middle class women. The American peace corps volunteers she befriended ( gay, natch) specifically requested remote villages, and often went there in pairs. A good number later died of GRID, uh, ‘Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.’

I was agreeing you with until you made that side-step comment

Seems a bit troll-ish. Foucault gets a pass now because his critics are too petty for your taste?

I wish I hadn’t done that.

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/san-francisco-s-gay-icon-larry-brinkin-guilty-felony-child-porn

Today, now, in the modern world, the people who want to lower the age of consent are the predators that want to fuck other peoples’ kids.

I repeat: “In the United States, more than 200,000 minors were married between 2000 and 2015; most were girls and more than 80% were married to an adult”…

so it seems to me there would be plenty of people today who’d benefit from lowering age of consent because not only they would like to fuck other people’s kids, but make them clean and cook for them as well… which strikes me as even worse.

“the language perverters who wittingly destroy the meaning of words like rape.”

As well as words like pedophilia, for the same reasons you make clear about rape.

Both are unhealthy.

Natalie Merchant really sucks.

And she couldn’t “belt” if you belted her. Apparently you don’t know what “belt” means.

New HIV Infections by Race and Transmission Group, U.S. 2010 vs. 2016 (see graph)

blacks make up 13% of the population, but over 45% of the HIV cases, closely mirroring the infamous crime stats. Also, ‘African American Heterosexual Women’ category is above ‘People Who Inject Drugs’ ‘African American Heterosexual Men’ is above both Latino and White Heterosexual Women categories. Those are pretty incredible stats. A huge portion of blacks simply can’t function in society.

Michel Foucault spent his younger years trying to come to grips with his way above average brightness

What do you find so intelligent about him?

“Another cause to which Foucault devoted himself was liberating children to have sex with grown men.”

Perhaps legendary filmmaker and convicted child rapist Roman Polanski, still in exile in France, would share Foucault’s sentiments.

You turn-off a lot of people that might agree with the kernel of your
argument

For God’s sake, we’re already burdened with Puerto Rico. Cuba would just be Puerto Rico squared. Every blasted Cuban would vote Democrat, and they’d all be on welfare.

What a retarded idea.

That French po-mo dude may have been a lefty, but how many games did he save?

that you think heterosexual men, because of their sexuality, are healthier and superior to homosexuals.

Uh … because it’s true.

All the minoritarian palaver is designed to turn some peoples’ minds to mush, to hide obvious truths. As with race, “diversity”, immigration, sexual dimorphism, so with all the the homosexual nonsense as well.

Heterosexual men are healthier and superior in at least one aspect–their sexual orientation. Homosexuality is a mental illness. Not that homosexuals are “nuts”, just that they are mentally abnormal–disordered Our wiring for sexual attraction has a purpose–one not difficult to discern with even the most rudimentary analysis–coupled with a natural capability for male-female sexual-emotional bonding, at least among the civilized races, again for a purpose not difficult to discern.

The whole homosexuality just an alternative blah, blah, blah is just that–blah, blah, blah. It’s like saying deafness is just a different auditory orientation or blindness a different visual orientation. It’s just … stupid.

No homosexuals are sexually broken–some sort of unfortunate developmental misfire. (Bad shit happens.)

Just get over yourselves. Live your lives as you see fit, but stop insisting the society must genuflect to your pathology.

As a kid in the ’60s I collected stamps from just one country — yes, Tunisia. “International Year of the Pervert” or “Tunis Welcomes Post-Modern Pederasts” would have made colorful commemoratives

The young Kerouac appears (OK, in his own write) as a naive, religious person of good will, hungry for experience. And alcohol. At his best, he was a good stylist, and his innocence and lust for adventure are appealing to any young reader.

Burroughs could write well on occasion (“Junkie” is not a bad read at all, kind of like Hunter Thompson before he became obsessed with being Hunter Thompson), but he was a trust fund junkie and pederast. Would not have lasted 10 years on his own, and certainly deserved a long prison sentence for murdering his wife.

Ginsberg…that buggering bastard…”Howl” is his best composition, and it certainly doesn’t age well. My cousin met up with him back in the ’70’s, and said he just exuded creepiness, like a cologne.

Didn’t get to this earlier, but your comment, Bill, is a good jump off.

The character of its “intellectuals” and practitioners provides a pretty good peek into the character of an ideology.

Modern leftism seems to be chock full of creeps and perverts and assholes as its “intellectuals”.

Actually, I do like Said more than Foucault. And I don’t care much about the Palestinians, one way or another. But I do like how Said’s basic message to European sex tourists in the Arab world was “Don’t you come around here no more.”

Said was, at the core, conservative. As you’ve pointed out, his Orientalist schtick was meant to function as a pro-Arab cudgel.

One of my professors in grad school studied under Said. He once told me that Said got quite upset after he (my future prof) delivered a Leftist boilerplate presentation about the plight of the subaltern, the othering power of the Western gaze, etc. Said told him that that kind of stuff was killing literature, and that hearing it from him broke his heart….

Abe, have you read the novel Submission by Michel Houellebecq? Here is a review.

Was required to read one of Gide’s books in college. The professor was charmed by its “lack of affect.”
I was unable to read it all the way through, even in ignorance of Gide’s repulsive personality.
What is it about the French?

Natalie Merchant was a great singer. Don’t listen to it on your iCrap, dumbass. You need big woofers for the bass too.

This recalls a stanza from Robert Penn Warren’s poem, “Flaubert in Egypt” (1974), about Gustave Flaubert’s journeys in the Middle East in 1849–50.

… So home, and left Egypt, which was: palms black, sky red, and the river
like molten steel, and the child’s hand
plucking his sleeve—“Bacsheesh,
and I’ll get you my mother to fuck”—and the bath-boy
he buggered, this in a clinical spirit and as
a tribute to the host-country. And the chancre, of course,
bright as a jewel on his member, and borne
home like a trophy. …

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:c6FphZ7g5WEJ:https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/08/08/flaubert-in-egypt/&hl=en&gl=us&strip=1&vwsrc=0

Natalie Merchant really sucks.

And she couldn’t “belt” if you belted her. Apparently you don’t know what “belt” means.

You’re crazy.

Natalie Merchant really sucks.

Natalie Merchant is absolutely amazing, her “Giving up everything” (and video) one of my favourite songs ever. But it’s her voice that really gets me… I used to think ASMR is a bunch of BS, then I realised something: I’ve actually experienced it, and her voice is my trigger! Love it.

Anyway… sorry to get so far off-topic.

Indeed. Cheerful, indeed.

“In his biography of Stanley Kubrick, John Baxter cites Clarke’s homosexuality as a reason why he relocated, due to more tolerant laws with regard to homosexuality in Sri Lanka.[46] In 1998, the Sunday Mirror reported that he paid Sri Lankan boys for sex, leading to the cancellation of plans for Prince Charles to knight him on a visit to the country.[47][48] The accusation was subsequently found to be baseless by the Sri Lankan police and was retracted by the newspaper.[49][50] Journalists who enquired of Clarke whether he was gay were told, “No, merely mildly cheerful.”

These people know where they can go to get away with what they want to get away with.

Creepy comment, or just talking about creepy occurrences? There is a difference.

Anybody else wonder if Bill’s interest in Cuba mirrors Foucault’s in Tunisia?

between 2000 and 2015 … 200,000 minors … more than 80% were married to an adult

So over a 15 year period, a little over 160,000 minors (mostly female) got married to an adult. Out of how many millions of marriages during that period? Like I said, it’s a distraction. The push to lower the age of consent isn’t being driven by some small minority of people who are wanting to marry off their teenager daughters (and why would it be, after all 160,000+ of them did just that under the current laws). It’s being driven by predatory pedophiles who want to use and abuse other peoples’s kids. Stop making excuses for the degenerate agenda.

Or to put it another way, perhaps Foucault’s “deep intellectual arguments” were nothing more than the same blather you get from every pervert.

I’ve always liked Sorman and more power to him, but is this news, or are French intellectuals only now paying attention now that one of their own (even if Jewish and conservative) is saying it?

Tom Wolfe, has some fun with Foucault in A Man in Full, albeit in reference to adult buggery. (“Michelle Fookoo? Who’s that?”)

By the way, the Arab boy thing is not limited to French intellectuals. Lawrence of Arabia comes to mind. Jacob de Haan was a Dutch Jewish intellectual who became spokesman for the anti-Zionist ultra-Orthodox of Palestine in the 1920’s (he was assassinated by the Haganah) but whose activities in the region seem to hae been at least partially a cover for his taste for Arab boys.

It was only after he retired that we discovered that our building’s (now late) plumber was a notorious not-so-peaceful Israeli “peace activist.” Who, um, enjoyed a little buggery with the ostensible objects of his concern on the side. One of his formers, now a prominent Irish politician (you can’t make this stuff up), even contributed a Foucault-like defense of him.

It’s increasingly being rumored in Germany that the chanceloress is a Lesbian too.

https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/02/pedophilia_is_normal_because_o.html

the hate against boy-bothering and 13-year old girlbrides has a very good foundation: the purpose of a young person is *NOT* to be a receptacle for the urges of powerful old men. it is the destruction of life- and potential life- to sate desires best repressed and/or sublimated. how has society forgotten this!?!?!

Stephen Fry once wrote a play treating pedophilia sympathetically: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/fry-under-fire-over-paedophilia-play-186150.html

He married a very boyish looking man:

Recently, he became the front man of ‘Child Rescue’
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/resources/images/5008914.jpg?display=1&htype=263&type=responsive-gallery

The link between homosexuality and pedophilia is extremely strong, but you’re not supposed to talk about it. Perhaps not all gays are pedophiles, but a large fraction of gays seem to have a thing for pre-pubescent boys.

If you have a son, keep him away from gays or trannies until he’s an adult. Those men can do serious damage to a young person. That’s why I find it totally insane that they allowed gays into the Boy Scouts. Do they want young boys to get molested by their scout leaders?

Personally, I don’t believe in forcing gay men into marriages of convenience. I don’t believe in forcing them into the closet. However, we shouldn’t have any delusions about the fact that many gay men are sexual predators. They commit a lot of child molestation. They participate enthusiastically in prostitution rings. They often try to entice men and boys (even straights) into gay sex by offering money and/or drugs.

Even when they’re behaving in a legal and consensual manner, gays often have a huge number of sexual partners and play a disproportionate role in the spread of various sexually transmitted diseases (especially HIV/AIDS). That’s why they age so badly, get so sickly looking, and die so young.

Gays claim it’s normal to be attracted to other males, but that’s just not true. The purpose of sex is to create children. That’s why men and women are attracted to each other. That’s why male anatomy and female anatomy “fit” so well. In the case of gay sex, it can’t create children. There’s also no compatibility between male anatomy and any of the male orifices. When gay men attempt to have anal sex, they’re forcing something that is unnatural and unhygienic, which is why so much disease is transmitted. Perhaps this is overly graphic to say, but it’s true.

Many gays suffer from mental illness and behave in very erratic ways. Even more disturbingly, a disproportionate share of cannibals and serial killers are gay too.

I don’t hate gays, but we can’t ignore the reality of what happens in their subculture. At a minimum, the public should be aware of the facts. Perhaps gays should be free to be who they are, but straights should be aware of the risks involved during their interactions with gays. Gays have the right to live their lives free from harassment or discrimination, but they don’t have the right to force the rest of us to be ignorant of the negative externalities associated with homosexuality.

Gays should live their lives out of the closet, but they shouldn’t force the rest of society to live in a closet of intellectual darkness.

As for Muslims, they have a well-deserved reputation for being some of the biggest child diddlers on the planet. If they didn’t spend so much time harassing and raping women, there’d be more discussion of how much sexual aggression Muslims commit against other men and boys. Though presumably, some of this sexual aggression is opportunistic, being exacerbated by the lack of access to adult women.

Islam seems to have a double standard on sexuality. On the one hand, Muslims are ferociously protective of the chastity of their women. On the other hand, they have a laissez-faire attitude with regard to their men and boys. That’s how places like North Africa and Afghanistan turned into dens of homosexual iniquity.

I suppose it’s because Muslims care a lot about family reputation. If your women are in the company of non-relative men, it’s obvious that something sexual is happening. Especially if they’re unmarried and get pregnant. If your men and boys are in the company of non-relative men, you could plausibly argue that they are “friends” or “employees.” It’s not like the public is watching what happens behind closed doors. So the family reputation is preserved.

So instead of thinking of Muslims as chaste, perhaps it’d be more accurate to think of them as protective of family reputation.

If our society could be more realistic about gays and Muslims, a lot of sexual trauma could be avoided.

Trying to pretend that everyone is the same requires a suspension of reality. It’s like disbelieving in gravity and then wondering why so many people fall out of windows.

We must live in reality.

Edward Said thought child molesting ruined being modern – and famous – – so his point was, that the intellectual child-molesters were a threat to his status-group and – he took that personally. – He did not have to take it personally in the Orient, because the Orient was not modern. He thought that such behavior was regressive, whereas modernity is or rather: Impersonates – progress.

The amusing part is that this extreme degenerate Foucault who got the ball rolling on Homo-Capitalist world domination. His PoMo stuff was strictly a white European and white American project. They have been superseded by anti-colonialism which is a minority project to push these aged out whites out of university sinecures.

IOW todays PoMo professors in our universities are dreading falling into a twitter trap with raging minorities who see them as pathetic relics.

Clarke emigrated to Ceylon (now Sri Lanka) in 1956, to pursue his interest in scuba diving.

Scuba diving huh? It reminds me of a former colleague who had a whole room in his house of dedicated to toys and kids memorabilia. Mid-30s. He suddenly developed an interest in ‘saving the lemurs’ of Madagascar. Turns out he was taking holidays to Madagascar to fuck kids. ‘Saving the lemurs’ is a good euphemism for when perverts do public-spirited things in order to feed their perversions, like when drag queens are ‘doing good’ by reading to schoolkids etc.

Arab boy-rape is usually done under the cover of charity nowadays. Many (perhaps most) of the men who are ‘helping’ Syrians etc in Greece are predatory male pedophiles from the rest of Europe. And many of the women are middle-aged Germans looking for a young man to sexually service them. In 30 years time, everyone will pretend to be shocked upon learning about this.

“The current population of Cuba is 11,321,514 as of Sunday, March 28, 2021, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data.” —Worldometer

Tied with Ohio at #7. 16 districts, 18 electors.

Yeah, right.

Actually, there was a very strong attempt by the left, back in the 1970s in the UK, to ‘legitimize’ pedophilia, much in the same way as the current trans/’gay marriage’ controversy.

A very prominent leader of this push was Harriet Harman MP, one time leader of the Labour Party.

The push fizzled out, largely due to the pressure of the British tabloid press and wide scale public revulsion which was periodically invoked by well publicized cases of child murders.

Homosexuality is a mental illness. Not that homosexuals are “nuts”, just that they are mentally abnormal–disordered

The Church’s position is more accurate– it’s a moral disorder.

This should do…

When traditional bonds like marriage and family are dissolved, and “consent” is all that matters, all that is left is to define consent. From a liberal POV, there really isn’t any basis to object to child/adult sex as long as the child enjoys it and wasn’t coerced or harmed.

According to his biographer Barry Miles, Burroughs preferred to take it rather than give. I think his choice in boys was for mid to late teens, not very young ones – though he and another guy paid two boys of about 13 to have sex while they watched.

Also I think the shooting of his wife was manslaughter at worst. They were in a room full of people where everyone was drunk and he was sitting with a gun in his hands. She put a glass on top of her head and invited him to shoot it off. He killed her, but she deserved a Darwin Award.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Cohn-Bendit

His 1975 book The Great Bazaar (Der grosse Basar) where he describes sexual contact with five-year-olds in his time as a teacher in an anti-authoritarian kindergarten (kinderladen [de]).[13] These were reiterated one year later in articles for the cultural-political magazine das da [de].[14]

This controversy re-surfaced in 2013: as Cohn-Bendit received the Theodor Heuss Prize, there was a rally by child-protection activists. The president of Germany’s Federal Constitutional Court cited the book as grounds for his refusal to give the speech at the awards ceremony.[13] The affair triggered wider research into the pro-pedophilia activism which prevailed in the German Green Party (without direct involvement on the part of Cohn-Bendit) well into the 1980s.[13]

An article in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung uncovered several “repulsive” passages (abstoßende Texte) in Pflasterstrand, a leftist magazine for which Cohn-Bendit was, under press law, responsible. It cited a 1978 defence of Cohn-Bendit’s of this editorial practice, as well as an appearance of Cohn-Bendit in a French television talk-show in 1982 where he described a five-year-old girl undressing him as an “eroticomaniac game”. Cohn-Bendit reacted to these allegations by claiming that his descriptions of sexual contact with pre-pubescent girls were not based on true events but were merely intended as what he today calls “obnoxious provocation” aimed at questioning sexual morals at the time that “shouldn’t have been written that way.”

As Charles de Gaulle pointed out, at the time of the 1968 uprising the main agitator Cohn-Bendit (‘Danny the Red’) who got the whole thing off the ground (by exploiting student protest over girls having male students in their rooms) was German. At the height of 1968 De Gaulle fled to a French army base in Germany. Cohn-Bendit is the head of the European Green Party. But back then

In this life you can be a chimp or a bonobo, thug or pervert.

As far as I know, he poisoned his victims, rendering them incapable of physical violence.

That seems to be an act of violence, but even if not, he sexually abused women who were unable to consent, which is reason enough to punish him severely.

Absolutely.

Pedophilia means love of children, not sexaual abuse of children.

The word has become the denominator for a subgroup of the criminally insane.

Not quite.
Polanski’s crime was committed against an adolescent female.
Nobody ever accused Foucault of that.

Today, now, in the modern world, the people who want to lower the age of consent are the predators that want to fuck other peoples’ kids.

Libertarians fall into two groups – those who want to pay no taxes, and those who want to fuck kids.

True, though Kerouac ran around with bad company. Ginsberg was himself a pervert and NAMBLA advocate.

For a liberal/leftist in 2021, this isn’t “problematic” at all. But all hell would break loose if Foucault had used the so called “N-Word”

But Italy was interested in British Somaliland and Ethiopia for unclear reasons unlikely to have to do with boy bothering, and got moved to the Axis Of Evil for this transgression. Even today, “killing Mussolini” is a Activity to be Celebrated, whereas Killing Churchill or even Killing the Negus is Not On.

all_of_them.jpg, even the Nazi one.

Also, reminder:

Why exactly did Pete Buttigieg "vacation" in Somalia in 2008?https://t.co/Amj1tYXfHo

Buttigieg's "Holiday in Somalia" sounds better than the Dead Kennedys' "Holiday in Cambodia," but still … pic.twitter.com/9fMIHKuloz

— Steve Sailer (teve_Sailer) December 7, 2019

… I suddenly have a bad feeling about my high school teacher openly and rather demonstratively reading The 11’000 Dicks while we were doing the writing tests. 🤔 🤔 🤔 I’m not sure whether anyone except me picked up on this at the time.

Les Onze Mille Verges tells the fictional story of the Romanian hospodar Prince Mony Vibescu, in which Apollinaire explores all aspects of sexuality: sadism alternates with masochism; ondinism / scatophilia with vampirism; pedophilia with gerontophilia; masturbation with group sex; lesbianism with male homosexuality. The writing is alert, fresh and concrete, humour is always present, and the entire novel exudes an “infernal joy”,[attribution needed] which finds its apotheosis in the final scene.

That clip is extraordinary.

Really shows what we’re up against.

They were going to knight Clarke and then his predilections surfaced. But apparently he was cleared of this right before his death. Confusing.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-03-24/arthur-c-clarke-not-a-paedophile-sri-lanka/1081914

The way he (and other postmodernists/deconstructivists) found to drag the young french away from the French Communists.  – That was a very successful endeavor and did make a huge political difference.
He did it by finding ways to ridicule the establishment and by staying on top of every single of the myriads of public fights/debates/discussions that there were in France and – elsewhere.

Now I make a big jump to the end of his (rather short) life, where he managed to completely attack his leftist friends by approaching classical liberalism (Friedrich von Hayek and the Freiburg school) – and even capitalism, without getting hanged for that.
The French writer Laurent Binet gives a very detailed picture of the atmosphere in which these fights at the Sorbonne and elsewhere took place in his novel: The Seventh Function of Language (2015).  

I – on a very small scale, have taken part in such public fights too and can only say, that this last move of Foucault, to leave the Marxist camp and fight for the productive and liberating European traditions of the social-state capitalism can’t be overestimated: neither strategically nor – intellectually. Because here he did indeed show intellectual courage and honesty – and decency.

European society and law was pretty relaxed towards the free sex hippie communes and alternative lifestyle collectives of the ’70s. That attitude took an hard 180 after the children grew up and told their side of the story in the ’80s.

North-Africa was ‘always’ a destination for the pederasts among the European intellectual and cultured classes, but also a pull for the ‘normies’ because of its legal hashish:

Disappointed that you don’t care much about the Palestinians, they are human beings too even though they are not often treated as such.

These were all evil men but the western intelligentsia adulate them.

You can add “foremost” 2oth economist John Maynard Keynes to the filthy list.
In his correspondence, he bragged about visiting children’s brothels, “bed and boy” as he called it, in Tunis, Cairo and Sicily.

On a side note, he was the theoretician who established the now-dominant academic framework preponing that money creation powers the economy, while it is, more than anything else, a way to divert wealth from those who produce it towards the 0.1% who control financial flows but bring nothing productive to society.

“Western intelligentsia” is allowed to adulate whoever the rich tell it to.

But he was right about something: that power helps you control discourse and controlling discourse helps you have power

This is the reasonable core of critical theory. The poison is in the dose.

Pomo and critical theory work on exactly the same nihilistic sea lawyer logic one hears from pedophiles and serial killers.

I prefer “sophistry” to “lawyer logic” in order to distinguish from the so-called logic that contains grains of truth, but shift the context and language to deliberately misdirect.

While people are seldom persuaded with facts and logic, Aristotle explained that your argument should at least “sound” logical.

Changing someone’s position is a heavy lift. Rationalizing some previously held belief, not so much.

A corollary of your viewpoint would be that females, being the choosy sex because of their reproductive investment being the larger, could carry out their intra-sexual competition through costume, cosmetics, and conviviality. Hence they were less motivated (i.e.? naturally selected) to create mental productions for peacocking.

Such a dichotomy would have been minimal during hunter-gatherer times when mental production was limited to slow-paced technological innovation directed toward protein acquisition. However after state-formation, selection might have favored male peacocking through mental productions that led to more sophisticated technology, high culture, and science. Civilization clearly became a man’s game. The question is why.

I wonder how much anti-American sentiment is created by decadent Americans abroad? Some of the stories I’ve heard from ex-military about what goes on across the border in Mexico and in places like the Philippines can’t breed good will. Sex tourism and swinger’s resorts in the Caribbean, Asia, and Latin America can’t help much, and that’s not counting the pedos and other dangerous perverts. How much of our immigration is an attempt to make such things more convenient? Sex spas? Unaccompanied minors?

Heh. Love the Goose Gossage ‘stache and sideburns. Average reliever (career 52 saves) for 6 years in the AL (Texas, Detroit, Toronto, Kansas City) 1973-78.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/foucast01.shtml

Disappointed that you don’t care much about the Palestinians, they are human beings too even though they are not often treated as such.

My guess is that Sailer does care about Jews. I don’t care much about either group, but I do know which is the victim, and it’s not the Jews.

“In the long run, we’re all dead.”

Sure, true enough if you’re a childless pederast like Keynes.

Believe me, it’s not confusing at all.

That’s what he was doing. The reason he was “cleared” is the same reason he was there in the first place.

Sad but true story. I’ve tried to explain this to people and it goes over like a lead balloon.

Look, we all want to help kids. But the fact is that is precisely where you’re going to find pedophiles. Boy scouts, church youth group, third world charities….you’re going to find pedos, not because those are not legitimate activities for good people but because if you *are* a pedo you’re going to go out of your way to be involved with some kind of “job” that involves kids.

I wouldn’t trust a children’s charity worker. Sad thing to say because it’s not like there aren’t children suffering in the third world and people whose only motivation is pure altruism….but it’s true

English tourists in Spain and Turkey don’t do much for England’s reputation.

They sure don’t.

“Today, though, it’s Foucault’s fans who have the whip hand.”

With the megaphone in the other hand.

Creepy comment.

“Ha, ha, Foucault was a child molester! Let’s make some cringeworthy jokes about men who rape five-year-olds and then say the brats were asking for it! Kiddie diddlers are a veritable fountain of lulz!”

And why five? That’s an oddly specific number.

Were these minors 9 years old? If not, then you’re just engaging in whataboutism. There’s a big difference between 9 and 16.

The whole Grand Tour thing of the 17th and 18th century, mostly conducted by so-called English gents, was primarily motivated by homosexual and underage sex.

“Arabs themselves have always been buggering boys….” .

Not to mention sheep, goats, camels etc. etc. Their tastes in that department are famously, er, eclectic.

The liberal arts woke crowd wouldn’t “get” Mr. Pendulum. The latter dealt with the real world whereas the other one dealt with fantasyland.

Not entirely evil, but yes it is not as if it were somehow obsolete.

I’m not interested in the name of the logic. Who were the heroes of the leftist novelists? Criminals. Who were the heroes of the surrealists? Serial killers and child molesters, master criminals (Vidocq, that one with a long series of novels whose name I forget, “the Phantom” or something), and Malodoror, which gave me (in the early orphan attack scene*) the most fright I have gotten from printed word. The ultimate pure self-expression without reference to morality or tradition is crime. The stuff Foucault depends on is the same as the prisoners explaining how, when you think about it, when you consider the unfairness, they’re not really criminals.

No, anti-American sentiment abroad is fueled much more by actions of the United States foreign policy establishment, for example by starting foreign wars and installing and supporting unpopular right wing regimes.

Another factor is the actions of American multinational corporations which are perceived as sucking the money out of countries without paying their fair share of local taxes.

Another is the perception, particularly in the Muslim world, that America is the epicenter of
perceived abominations like homosexuality and same-sex marriage.

Sex tourism from America is certainly not a positive, but on the other hand overseas visitors are welcomed in many sex tourism destinations as they bring foreign currency income to hotels, restaurants, bars, landlords, and taxi services, not to mention airport and tourism taxes, so their economic value to the local economy to some extent offsets the moral aspect.

That was exactly my point.

I wouldn’t trust a children’s charity worker.

The United-Kingdom’s most prolific paedophile and child abuser was a man called Richard Huckle, who posed as a “philanthropist” and volunteer English teacher, allowing him to abuse over 200 babies and children between the age of 6 months to 12 years old.

He recorded the list of victim in a ledger, cataloguing the level of abuse from “basic” to “hardcore”, and granting himself “paedopoints” on that basis.

The little victims identified so far were mostly from Christian families in the Kuala Lumpur poorest neighbourhoods, where he carried most of his “charity work”. He even tried to earn money by crowdfunding videos of him abusing a three-year-old girl.

Huckle also wrote a manual titled “Paedophiles And Poverty: Child Lover Guide”. The title chosen by this professional paedophile s self-explanatory and indicates why children in colonised countries or poorer countries are so often targeted .
A fellow inmate, God bless them, stabbed him to death in prison in 2019.

No, anti-American sentiment abroad is fueled much more by actions of the United States foreign policy establishment, for example by starting foreign wars and installing and supporting unpopular right wing regimes…..

I don’t deny anything you stated. However, if decadence stuck out to a Palestinian, donkey shows, child molestation, sex tourism, spring break idiots, etc. likely don’t leave a good impression.

Paul Bowles and friends were definitely raping actual children in North Africa.

As was Arthur Clarke in Ceylon.

If you wanted to bang 17 year old gay men you obviously wouldn’t leave London or New York–places with the most thriving open gay teen scenes in the world as well as access to your home/culture/career as an anglo-american intellectual or artist–to live in third world.

It would be really nice if the Men Of UNZ don’t jump in to defend Epstein and Maxwell by claiming that 14 year old prostitutes deserve no protection.

It would be even nicer if MeToo hysterics like yourself didn’t jump in to defend hysterical, feminist, rabid prosecutors (representatives of the State) while claiming falsely that someone–anyone–said that those poor, non-existent 14 year old (they weren’t) prostitutes (they weren’t) deserve no protection (from whom?).

Don’t you have a MeToo meeting to go to? Aren’t you due in court in order to send another person to life in the gulag?

Why you wasting your time here?

This French perv has already resigned his position saying he wants to protect the institutions he works for.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55544499

I was wondering if Andrew Cuomo would ever resign, but I guess this is a decent explanation. The institution he works for doesn’t need protecting. Nobody expects honorable behavior from a NY governor.

it seems to me that every religion and movement s/ the founding of Roman Catholicism could be viewed as an excuse to allow its followers the ability (or the “legalism”) of either sleeping w/ multiple women or children. Martin Luther, Freud, Joseph Smith, Mohammed…everyone of them had sexual desires outside of the mainstream who were interesting in changing the moral law to fit their own (or their customers in Freud’s case) appetites.

Not to put words in Steve’s mouth, but I think he was saying that as an American he doesn’t care PARTICULARLY much about the Palestinians as distinct from the other 195 countries on Earth, most of which you never hear about because they don’t serve the Leftist narrative.

There are human rights abuses in some of the ex-Soviet ‘stans, in Africa, etc. that would make your toes curl but you never even hear about these while lots of ink gets wasted on Palestine. The truth is that nobody (even the other Arab countries) GAF about the Palestinians per se – if Palestine was in the middle of Central Asia they could torture each other to their heart’s content and no one would give the least damn. You wouldn’t even be able to find it on a map.

Although I haven’t paid attention to pop music since the 1970s I tend to agree with your comment. The reason is that I heard (on the car radio) a Natalie Merchant (unknown to me at the time) version of “Because The Night”. I am a big fan of the Patti Smith rendition. The Merchant version has the exact same arrangement. The only difference was the vocals which couldn’t hold a candle to Patti’s. I agree Merchant can’t “belt”. I don’t understand why she produced that particular song as it added nothing to what had already been done.

Don’t forget Henry VIII.

What’s interesting to me is not that these men had impermissible sexual desires and these desires were strong motivators for their action but that each one of them was able to gain millions of followers. There is something in human nature that loves a psychopath.

Lol! I was going to write exactly the same thing even down to the same words of your first sentence.

I wonder if there are any examples of political parties or revolutions taking place to fulfill the sexual or reproductive needs of politicians.

Maybe the founding of the new party in Scotland is a case in point.

Bill Krystal is a professional troll.

The point is, there is no much abuse of Palestinian Arabs. Israeli Arabs are probably the freest Arabs in the world, with life opportunities other Arabs can only dream of. As for occupied territories- Gaza is a hell hole no one, even Egyptians, wants to have anything to do with, while the West Bank is a mixture of everything. Clearly, there is a process of Israeli colonization going there, and Israel would not have the guts to proceed with it had it not the US backing; on the other hand, Palestinian Arabs’ maximalist options make it impossible to find a compromise.

Pedophelia is mostly done in secret, so you don’t know which men (or women) are pedophiles and which ones aren’t. This makes it all too easy to tar every single person who visits the 3rd world or who has an interest in children’s organizations with the same brush. Of course, the people you tar with this brush are usually people you don’t like to begin with anyway. In this thread alone, numerous people (Buttigeig, Kristol, etc.) have been accused of pederasty based on absolutely nothing. Not all men who visit 3rd world countries, not even all gay ones, are child molestors any more than all Catholic priests or all Boy Scout leaders are child molestors. A small % are and most aren’t. Child molestation is a serious crime and people are much too free in throwing around these allegations. This devalues the seriousness of actual child molestation because it makes it seem like everybody is doing it.

it seems to me that every religion and movement s/ the founding of Roman Catholicism could be viewed as an excuse to allow its followers the ability (or the “legalism”) of either sleeping w/ multiple women or children.

The Shakers say “hi”. So do the Quakers and others. Your statement is rather silly.

Martin Luther, Freud, Joseph Smith, Mohammed

You don’t know much about Luther. Bainton’s biography from 1950 is a standard reference that is still in print, perhaps you should read it.

Ah, I missed the sarcasm. Thanks!

Hmmm. English prison psychologist who spent a lot of time in Haiti thinks sex tourism is harmless. Surprising.

The classical rabbis, in trying to explain why the Biblical Israelites strayed into idolatry over and over, blamed it entirely on the license it gave for forbidden sex.

Looking at the world today, you can see their point.

These were all evil men but the western intelligentsia adulate them. Over the past two centuries Western culture became infested with parasites. As these gained dominance they’ve promoted the work of these men not in spite of its amoral perversity but precisely because of it.

Spot on.

Western “culture” especially since the late 19th century has increasingly been full of various perverts, parasites and queers … who create pervert/queer “art” and lavish praise and promote other pervert, parasite and queer “artists” as “original”, “brilliant”, “genius”.

Most of their “art” has absolutely nothing to do with life–with normal humans who sustain race/nation/civilization. It’s just a big masturbatory exercise in their own pathology and alienation.

That this period correlates with the West–despite incredible material superiority–rolling over into decline is no accident. A civilization can hold itself–its people and culture–up and thrive … or slump into confusion and perversion and decline and collapse.

And it just occurred to me the portly mutton-chopped hurler’s nickname was Fookie — wonder if the French deconstructionist’s bon amis ever called him that to get under his skin

“Burroughs moved on from spouse killing in Mexico to child rape in Morocco. “The Naked Lunch” includes several florid descriptions of Burroughs’s buggering Arab boys.”

I suppose it does, but in the interest of accuracy I must point out that they are likely outnumbered by episodes where WB pays Arab boys to bugger him. IIRC from reading various bios, Burroughs’ sexuality was of the passive or feminine sort, which created a great deal of psychic turmoil since he despised such “sissies” and “pansies”, hence his various poses as an “agent” of some kind, inspired by pulp tough guys.

I suppose it’s a subtle point, but does it make his crime lesser or greater or the same? Would Said complain about Europeans paying Arabs to bugger themselves? I suspect he would enjoy the idea.

The whole Grand Tour thing of the 17th and 18th century, mostly conducted by so-called English gents, was primarily motivated by homosexual and underage sex.

Do you have a source for that pretty sweeping assertion?

I though the theory was that Butti was in Somaliland because he was a glowie?

Perhaps we should hold the more intelligent, cultured races to a higher standard?

When Germans or Jews behave like the inhabitants of Central Africa it should shock and anger us.

John Bradley’s Behind the Veil of Vice details modern sexual mores in the Arab world, with one chapter on homosexuality/pederasty, which he finds alive and well.

Once you get past the gov. officials and other “elites” the Arab street is quite OK about such things, as they always have been. Colonialism brought the attempt to impose Victorian mores — no more Oscar Wilde’s! As you say, this was viewed as part of “modernizing”.

In “traditional” societies — are you listening, all you “back to religion and hierarchy” guys? — women are sequestered, and boys are expected to, um, relieve themselves with each other, or perhaps, if lucky, a wealthy “sponsor”. Eventually, everyone is expected to marry and have children; once that’s out of the way, how you amuse yourself is your own affair.

You might applaud those Victorian mores but “modernization” continues and now involves not colonialism but Obama-style demands for legalization, gay marriage, drag queen story hour, parades, etc., all of which are anathema to the Arabs, of whatever orientation (pun).

The problem with the various “traditionalists” is that they want “traditional” societies but believe all the hypocritical blather (or rather, discretion) about how “moral” they were. Hence their obsession with loudly denouncing homosexuality and pederasty. “Not us! No sirree, look how loudly we condemn it!” E.g., the Catholic Church, a worldwide pederasty network that last week reaffirmed its opposition to homosexuality even among consenting adults. The lady doth protest.

A real “traditional” society would be like black America, where things are on the down low; neither Mormon purity nor gay lib outrageousness.

I It’s pretty clear that you are a prejudiced individual full of visceral hatreds. At least you are honest about that. And I don’t care what you like or don’t like. This has no relevance to me or to anyone but yourself. The point is that an individual’s sexuality should not be a barometer for a person’s moral worth, unlike pedophilia, which is morally reprehensible.

And I know you don’t care about Palestinians. You care mostly about Jews. You are one of the most pro-Jewish, pro-Israel apologists I have ever seen in my life. There was an article from you years back where you stated, in reply to a picture that showed Israeli soldiers beating Palestinean kids in the Gaza Strip, that, and I quote:

“Personally, I don’t care if the Israelis push the Palestineans around.”

As for sex tourism, it’s good that you condemn it. Why don’t you do the same to the *heterosexual* male American tourists that go to South and Central America to have sex with 13 year-old girls? You are very quick to condemn homosexual pedophilia, but not the heterosexual variety. And the Cuban revolution of 1959 was in large part approved by the Cuban population because of *Americn sex tourism* to Cuba. The Americans that went vacationing in Cuba in the early to mid 20th century were not the best of American Society. They were usually young male cads attracted by the perspective of cheap sex with underage girls. Are you glad the Cubans kicked out the Americans too? You should be. Hypocrite!

I though the theory was that Butti was in Somaliland because he was a glowie?

Consider the power of “and”.

What a profound display of genius! The intellectual capacity of social conservatives in full display! Do me a favor and go hang yourself, dirt bag!

Homosexuality is a mental illness? Oh, really? So I guess Plato, Leonardo da Vnci, Keynes, Alexander the Great, Michaelangelo, etc, were all mentally ill? You makes *you*, Joe Nobody, better than them?

“Manly”?

Yeah, the way one might describe an elderly lesbian as “manly”

Or as Elaine said of George’s she-Jerry girlfriend, “She’s a very handsome woman.”

I think he’s going for the very Modernist Gertrude Stein look here.

Said built up his white-man-cannot-analyse-brown-man theories to stiffen resistance to white pederasts?

The amount of double-endentre in that one sentence could put the space-time continuum at risk.

Perhaps Said was, like Tobias Fünke, an analrapist in his spare time?

https://arresteddevelopment.fandom.com/wiki/Analrapist

“Said’s basic message to European sex tourists in the Arab world was “Don’t you come around here no more.””

As the leech doctor says to Blackadder, who seeks a cure for his supposed pederasty, “Good, more rampant totty for us real men!”

Doctor Leech : It isn’t every day a man wakes up to discover he’s a screaming bender with no more right to live on God’s clean Earth than a weasel. Ashamed of yourself?

Blackadder : Not really, no.

Doctor Leech : Bloody Hell. I would be. Still, why should I complain. Just leaves more rampant totty for us real men, eh?

Blackadder : Look, am I paying for this abuse or is it extra?

Doctor Leech : No, no, it’s all part of the service.

Blackadder II, “Bells”

Now, I’m no lawyer, or expert, but I rather think that’s the point of something being “statutory rape,” i.e., an act that involves no violence, even consent, but since one or both parties are below the “age of consent” it is defined by statute as “rape.”

Who is to say that the slave didn’t want to be enslaved?

It was my understanding that the French seized North Africa to put an end to the depredations of the Barbary pirates.

I would say that lowering the age of consent is not so much new direction as returning to the good old traditional values where marriages at young age (usually of young girls given to older men) were quite common.

Be specific. I keep reading this stuff in websites on the right but no one is ever specific about this. In most traditional societies people marry acquaintances. Arranged marriages weren’t ever routine in the Anglo-Saxon world, and even in societies where they were it was basically a gentle nudge of the inevitable.

In classical Athens, it was common to marry a girl right after puberty to a guy in his 30s. That worked out great (hint: widespread pederasty). Plato disapproved.

Since I challenged you, I’m showing my hand:

https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/SLT/society/family/marriage.html

Marriage statistics indicate that the mean marriage age for the Elizabethan and Jacobean eras was higher than many people realize. Data taken from birthdates of women and marriage certificates reveals mean marriage ages to have been as follows:

1566-1619 27.0 years
1647-1719 29.6 years
1719-1779 26.8 years
1770-1837 25.1 years

It’s pretty clear that you are a prejudiced individual full of visceral hatreds.

The whole French intellectual world is…. weird.

The pederast Andre Gide wrote Corydon, a defense of the odious practice that essentially expanded on his opinion that women were too ugly to attract men, hence men needed to sate their lust with pretty boys.

Nevertheless, he managed to overcome his disgust of women long enough to sire an illegitimate daughter who rather pathetically dedicated her life to promoting her father’s legacy.

Reading about these guys gives me the creeps. Like I said… weird.

He was an honored intellectual in France.

Didn’t Houellebecq call France “sinister”?

You could say the same thing about Greek philosophy.

Cuba would just be Puerto Rico squared. Every blasted Cuban would vote Democrat

Probably true. OTOH, since they have the most first-hand experience with the sh*tshow of actual communism, maybe not. Hopefully, we will never have to find out.

Many people pointed out the real impetus of the Civil Rights movement was to allow black men to have access to white women.
Knowing what we now know about Martin Luther Kings sexual appetites, it seems those people were on target.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

So who right now is abusing children, but is still useful to them?

The Muslime Rape Gangs in the UK, and not just the UK.

Of course, even more evil, is the group referred to in your comment as them.

Sultry climates: Travel and sex since the Grand Tour

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2001/jun/09/travel.artsandhumanities

The attractions of Italy, “the Mother and Nurse of Sodomy”, nourished British homosexuals in particular during the late-Victorian period, allowing the Renaissance scholar John Addington Symonds to wax lyrical on the “rosy nipples . . . marble man-spheres . . . lustrous gland” of some peasant boy. Symonds found his Arcadia among the gondoliers of Venice. “They think little of gratifying the caprice of ephemeral loves,” he approved.

“Talking about the early marrying age of people who rarely finished high school, didn’t have access to birth control, and were dead by fifty is just a distraction. Today, now, in the modern world, the people who want to lower the age of consent are the predators that want to fuck other peoples’ kids.”

A good point. BUT: isn’t the UNZ/Dissident Right/HBD crowd always arguing “X is not a mere convention, but reflects 1000s of years of evolution, which cannot be avoided by the whims of the Left”?

The point being, the “modern world” of college for all, birth control and longer lifespans is perhaps incompatible with the natural, evolved pattern of early procreation? Aren’t UNZers always complaining about family formation, women getting pregnant in their 40s, etc.? Isn’t the real issue family formation, not age alone — IOW, we should get back to earlier ages of marriage for demographic reasons?