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As I pointed out in 2015, South African mining zillionaire and British freelance imperialist Cecil Rhodes’ first five wills called for creation of a “Secret Society” modeled on the Jesuits to work covertly for the British Empire to rule the world. Rhodes wrote:

Why should we not form a secret society with but one object: the furtherance of the British Empire and the bringing of the whole uncivilised world under British rule, for the recovery of the United States, for the making the Anglo-Saxon race but one Empire.?…

To forward such a scheme what a splendid help a secret society would be, a society not openly acknowledged but who would work in secret for such an object.

Rhodes’ last will, at least publicly, dropped the “secret society” language and created the Rhodes Scholarships to bring together the most promising youth of the Anglo-Saxon nations, US and Germany, with their peers at good old Oxford for indoctrination in Anglophilia.

But Rhodes Scholar Bill Clinton favorite professor Carroll Quigley maintained that Rhodes’ successor Alfred Milner carried on the Rhodes conspiracy by recruiting able young men like novelist-statesman John Buchan, politician Leo Amery, editor Geoffrey Dawson, and intellectual Isaiah Berlin to dominate key chokepoints of influence like the Times of London and the Encyclopedia Britannica.

My new conspiracy theory: Princess Meghan Markle is an agent of the conspiracy launched by South African zillionaire Cecil Rhodes in the 1890s to reverse the American Revolution and reunite the Anglosphere. The plan is for her to become President while her husband is King, then abrogate the Declaration of Independence.

But there could be just one little stumbling block in the grand plan: What if Althea Bernstein’s mother tells Princess Markle that her daughter is to busy healing to be the first guest on the ex-royals’ TV show about racism? In fact, she’d prefer that nobody mention her daughter’s allegation that she was set on fire by “classic Wisconsin frat boys” ever again.

 
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  1. Sorry, but a lot of royals would have to die first.

    Coronavirus didn’t even knock off Charlie.

    • LOL: RichardTaylor
  2. Meanwhile, a Black woman beat the holy shit out of Alec Baldwin’s creepy daughter, relieved her of her belongings, and another secret Trump voter is born…

    https://pagesix.com/2020/08/22/ireland-baldwin-attacked-robbed-by-desperate-woman-on-drugs/?_ga=2.175753186.1147942402.1598231735-1107305132.1598231735

    • Replies: @Bubba
    @Anonymous

    Those tattoos look hideous on her. Looks like she dated a felon out on parole passing himself off as a tattoo artist.

    , @ThreeCranes
    @Anonymous

    "and jumped in a getaway car while her husband took off.”

    "husband" Ha ha ha ha ha. Boy, she's got a lot to learn. Or unlearn.

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    “The cops told me this is happening frequently because people are desperate for money right now due to Coronavirus and people being out of work,” she continued. “There is a lot of theft and muggings going down. Posting this to remind everyone to be really careful and watch your surroundings. These are really difficult times and we need to look out for one another.”
     
    Or, you know, she's going to vote Biden because he'll end these difficult Trump times, help out those desperate people and fix that broken system that's been causing so many lately to shoplift loaves of bread, etc.

    What basis is there for thinking that BLM menacing gentrifiers and blocking roads creates secret Trump voters rather than liberals doubling-down when personally confronted by their pet issues?

    Do even Trump voters think wokeism will slow down if he wins again?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Charlotte

    , @GeneralRipper
    @Anonymous

    One of the best things in life is reading about shitlibs and/or their children, beaten, maimed or killed by the "diversity".

    You just made my day.

    , @IHTG
    @Anonymous


    another secret Trump voter is born
     
    You mean the black woman?
    , @JimDandy
    @Anonymous

    Pretty funny to think of Alec Baldwin's private reaction to this vs. his public persona as a firebrand lefty.

  3. Why would they want the United States back at this point?

    • Agree: donut, HammerJack
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Why would they want the United States back at this point?
     
    Ah, Achmed - back is the key concept of the left now - that's why they're the regressive left.

    See? - They could easily join forces with Joe Biden and his interview-partner Cardi B. - because she's an expert of the IT-backness now (cf. Wet Ass Pussy). - One Size Fits All - IT's the Back-Size!
    , @Jake
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The US has been leading the Anglo-Zionist Empire since the Versailles Treaty.

    The WASP Empire has expanded since the days when people think the British Empire began to retreat. Royalty means nothing to it or about it. The Glorious Revolution meant that the British Monarch would be neutered and muzzled, and owned by financiers. Anti-monarchical American WASPs simply became predominant, just as had Anglo-Saxon Puritans, they of the Judaizing heresies that defined subsequent Modern English culture

    So why did Rhoades include Germans? Saxons. Martin Luther, for example, was Saxon. Saxony was always allied with/part of Prussia - modern unified Germany is and always has been at the behest of Prussia/Saxony.

    Replies: @HammerJack

  4. Cecil Rhodes was a tool of Jewish bankers as was the British Empire.

    • Agree: Gordo
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @ATBOTL


    Cecil Rhodes was a tool of Jewish bankers as was the British Empire.
     
    As were Clarence Darrow and H. L. Mencken, who backed the ACLU in their persecution of Bryan.
    , @Anon
    @ATBOTL

    Right. The senior British partners just didn’t know it at the time.

    , @flyingtiger
    @ATBOTL

    I thought Cecil Rhodes was a crypto Jew. I could be wrong.

  5. Gadzooks! Steve is gifted with sight beyond sight!

  6. Hillary Clinton “gifted” a prestigious job in the Obama State Department to the nephew of accused pedophile and sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell, according to OK! Magazine – and whose employment was confirmed by the Daily Beast.

    Alexander Djerassi, the son of Maxwell’s sister Isabel, went from working on Hillary Clinton’s 2008 Presidential campaign, to a “very powerful and prestigious position” within the state department, working under Clinton in charge of the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs. He returned to Clinton’s 2016 campaign, according to the Beast.

    “Secretary Clinton gave Alex a job in one of the most sensitive areas of Obama’s executive apparatus,” an anonymous source told OK!. “The fact Alex Djerassi, fresh out of college, was put in charge of the State Department’s Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, covering the Middle East, was an interesting move.”

    “He worked directly on the Arab Spring, and Hillary sent Alex as the US representative to the expatriate rebel groups Friends of Libya and Friends of the Syrian People,” the source continued, adding that Djerassi was given “special treatment.”

    A State Department spokesperson confirmed Djerassi’s employment with The Daily Beast

    From September 2007 to June 2008, Djerassi was a policy associate for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

    The Yale and Princeton alum—the son of Maxwell’s sister Isabel—apparently returned for Clinton’s 2016 presidential run.

    Bill Clinton stayed in Jeffrey Epstein ‘s villa private Caribbean island of Little Saint James after his presidency ended, Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts claims.

    Clinton ‘strolled into the darkness’ with two girls while staying on pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s private Caribbean island

    Epstein told her that Clinton ‘owes me a favor’, which is why he was on the Caribbean island.

    Roberts said orgies ‘were a constant thing’ on the private island.

    Hillary’s absence from the night made it easy for his [Bill Clinton’s] apparent provocative cheeky side to come out

    In addition to Clinton, Roberts said she also recalled seeing Al Gore, Naomi Campbell, and Heidi Klum on Epstein’s private jet named ‘Lolita Express.’

    Summary:

    -Hillary Clinton “gifted” a powerful a “very powerful” position at the State Department to Ghislaine Maxwell’s nephew Alexander Djerassi. Djerassi worked directly under Hillary. Despite being fresh out of college, Djerassi was placed in charge of the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, covering the Middle East. He was sent as a US representative to communicate with rebel groups, in Libya and Syria.

    -Bill Clinton got a back massage from an Epstein victim during a trip to Africa.

    -According to a court document, Bill Clinton stayed in a private villa on Epstein’s orgy island. While there, he was accompanied by “2 young girls.” They “strolled into the darkness” together. Hillary was not with him.

    -Epstein claimed that Clinton “owes me a favor.”

    – Al Gore, Naomi Campbell, and Heidi Klum were spotted on Epstein’s “Lolita Express” jet.

    • Thanks: JMcG
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Bill to massuse: "Lower,way lower."

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @JohnnyWalker123

    https://twitter.com/FakeWelt/status/1160964681198166016


    The creepy billionaire’s maintenance man at his Palm Beach mansion, Juan Alessi, is quoted in the court docs as saying that he, as a worker of Epstein’s, had met “Prince Diana’s secretary with her children”.

     


    “I then listed Senator Mitchell, Prince Andrew, Princess Sarah Ferguson, Miss Yugoslavia, Miss Germany, Alan Dershowitz, Princess Diana’s secretary with her children, Mr Trump, Mr Robert Kennedy Jr, Frederik Fekkai, and a couple Noble prize winners as celebrities that I had seen while working for Mr Epstein.”
     
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/NINTCHDBPICT000505118110-1-e1562953270899.jpg

    Here's a picture of Prince Andrew with Epstein on yacht, partying near Phuket. There are topless women on board.

    The Duke of York, 59, who divorced Sarah Ferguson in 1996, was also pictured holidaying in Phuket, Thailand, with the controversial financier and several topless women in 2001.

     

    Here's another story involving Prince Andrew with a topless female.

    https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1265223961761193986

    https://twitter.com/KirbySommers/status/1297438236604870659

    Summary:

    -Princes William and Harry went to Epstein's mansion when they were quite young.

    -Senator Mitchell, Prince Andrew, Princess Sarah Ferguson, Miss Yugoslavia, Miss Germany, Alan Dershowitz, Princess Diana’s secretary, Mr. Trump, Mr. Robert Kennedy Jr, Frederik Fekkai, and a couple Noble prize winners were also spotted at the mansion.

    -Prince Andrew and Epstein partied with topless women on a yacht near Phuket, Thailand.

    -Prince Andrew was seen grinding on a girl on Epstein's orgy island (the place where Bill Clinton also stayed).

    -Prince Andrew REALLY likes topless females.

    -Protesters are outside Buckingham Palace right now, yelling "pedophile" at Prince Andrew.

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful, @Gordo, @Ragno

    , @El Dato
    @JohnnyWalker123


    “He worked directly on the Arab Spring"
     
    Definitely beats being a low-grade accounting at Treblinka.
    , @Gordo
    @JohnnyWalker123


    -According to a court document, Bill Clinton stayed in a private villa on Epstein’s orgy island. While there, he was accompanied by “2 young girls.” They “strolled into the darkness” together. Hillary was not with him.
     
    Well he wouldn't want to share would he?
    , @Anon
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Maria Farmer, another Epstein victim, said in her interview with Whitney Webb that Bill Clinton visited Epstein's apartment in NYC while he was sitting president. She said Ghislaine Maxwell went nuts one day tidying up the apartment saying "The President is coming! The President is coming!"

  7. Harry could be the biggest fool in living memory.

    Giving up a royal fishbowl in England only to seek a different fishbowl as a grasping reality TV star in L.A. does not strike me as trading up.

    • Agree: Rob McX
    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    @Anon


    Harry could be the biggest fool in living memory.
     
    In history.


    Giving up a royal fishbowl in England only to seek a different fishbowl as a grasping reality TV star in L.A. does not strike me as trading up.
     
    He didn't have to live in any fishbowl if he didn't want to. The British would have been totally understanding if he had done the smart thing: married a well-born girl, mostly retired from public duties, and spent half his life out of Britain, but discreetly. In fact, they'd have loved him for it.

    This behavior is unforgiveable.

    Replies: @notsaying

  8. Instead of another show about racism, Megan Markle could play a young Kamala Harris doing whatever it takes to succeed in California politics, including Willie Brown.

    • Replies: @Stephen Paul Foster
    @JohnnyD

    "Instead of another show about racism, Megan Markle could play a young Kamala Harris doing whatever it takes to succeed in California politics, including Willie Brown."

    Who would play Willie Brown? Someone considerably less ugly so as to make the sex match with MM believable or at least watchable.

    , @Stephen Paul Foster
    @JohnnyD

    "Instead of another show about racism, Megan Markle could play a young Kamala Harris doing whatever it takes to succeed in California politics, including Willie Brown."

    Who would play Willie Brown? Someone considerably less ugly so as to make the sex match with MM believable or at least watchable.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @MEH 0910

    , @Known Fact
    @JohnnyD

    I had Rashida Jones penciled in to play Kamala, but Megan might do nicely too

  9. Rhodes did not anticipate that Oxford would become an international joke in politics, economics and philosophy, the focus of Rhodes Scholar studies, while British show-folk would come to dominate the word. See Archie Rice in “The Entertainer.”

  10. Steve, take your meds.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Steve, take your meds.
     
    Conspiracy theory = A hypnotic sorcery.
  11. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1296937228401287168

    Hillary Clinton "gifted" a prestigious job in the Obama State Department to the nephew of accused pedophile and sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell, according to OK! Magazine - and whose employment was confirmed by the Daily Beast.

    Alexander Djerassi, the son of Maxwell's sister Isabel, went from working on Hillary Clinton's 2008 Presidential campaign, to a "very powerful and prestigious position" within the state department, working under Clinton in charge of the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs. He returned to Clinton's 2016 campaign, according to the Beast.

    "Secretary Clinton gave Alex a job in one of the most sensitive areas of Obama’s executive apparatus," an anonymous source told OK!. "The fact Alex Djerassi, fresh out of college, was put in charge of the State Department’s Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, covering the Middle East, was an interesting move."

    "He worked directly on the Arab Spring, and Hillary sent Alex as the US representative to the expatriate rebel groups Friends of Libya and Friends of the Syrian People," the source continued, adding that Djerassi was given "special treatment."

    A State Department spokesperson confirmed Djerassi's employment with The Daily Beast
     

    From September 2007 to June 2008, Djerassi was a policy associate for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

     


    The Yale and Princeton alum—the son of Maxwell’s sister Isabel—apparently returned for Clinton’s 2016 presidential run.

     

    https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1297135782403153920

    https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/clinton%20neck_0.jpg

    https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1294899079407734784

    Bill Clinton stayed in Jeffrey Epstein 's villa private Caribbean island of Little Saint James after his presidency ended, Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts claims.

     


    Clinton ‘strolled into the darkness’ with two girls while staying on pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s private Caribbean island

     


    Epstein told her that Clinton 'owes me a favor', which is why he was on the Caribbean island.

     


    Roberts said orgies 'were a constant thing' on the private island.

     


    Hillary’s absence from the night made it easy for his [Bill Clinton's] apparent provocative cheeky side to come out

     


    In addition to Clinton, Roberts said she also recalled seeing Al Gore, Naomi Campbell, and Heidi Klum on Epstein's private jet named 'Lolita Express.'

     

    Summary:

    -Hillary Clinton "gifted" a powerful a "very powerful" position at the State Department to Ghislaine Maxwell's nephew Alexander Djerassi. Djerassi worked directly under Hillary. Despite being fresh out of college, Djerassi was placed in charge of the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, covering the Middle East. He was sent as a US representative to communicate with rebel groups, in Libya and Syria.

    -Bill Clinton got a back massage from an Epstein victim during a trip to Africa.

    -According to a court document, Bill Clinton stayed in a private villa on Epstein's orgy island. While there, he was accompanied by "2 young girls." They "strolled into the darkness" together. Hillary was not with him.

    -Epstein claimed that Clinton "owes me a favor."

    - Al Gore, Naomi Campbell, and Heidi Klum were spotted on Epstein's "Lolita Express" jet.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @JohnnyWalker123, @El Dato, @Gordo, @Anon

    Bill to massuse: “Lower,way lower.”

    • LOL: JohnnyWalker123
  12. Anonymous[386] • Disclaimer says:

    OK as a substitute first guest it’s gotta be WildIrish Rose Mcgowan who is boldly claiming to have been raped by a top dem donor….it’s gone viral

    https://mobile.twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/1296990306186014720

    I never saw this tv show she was in with Milano but apparently it has cult status among women.

    So Gorsuch torpedoed Trump over the summer with his nutcase scotus rulings and now out of left field this crazy Mcgowan is torpedoing the dems. She could be a bigger factor than Kanye.

    She has a million followers. iSteve probably has many more stealth followers on twitzer than what is officially showing on his account but not a million.

    This is our celeb driven society…

    MCGOWAN & KANYE ARE MOVING THE NEEDLE.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Anonymous


    I never saw this tv show she was in with Milano but apparently it has cult status among women.
     
    TV in general has cult status among women. That's at least half the reason we're in the mess we're in.
  13. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1296937228401287168

    Hillary Clinton "gifted" a prestigious job in the Obama State Department to the nephew of accused pedophile and sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell, according to OK! Magazine - and whose employment was confirmed by the Daily Beast.

    Alexander Djerassi, the son of Maxwell's sister Isabel, went from working on Hillary Clinton's 2008 Presidential campaign, to a "very powerful and prestigious position" within the state department, working under Clinton in charge of the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs. He returned to Clinton's 2016 campaign, according to the Beast.

    "Secretary Clinton gave Alex a job in one of the most sensitive areas of Obama’s executive apparatus," an anonymous source told OK!. "The fact Alex Djerassi, fresh out of college, was put in charge of the State Department’s Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, covering the Middle East, was an interesting move."

    "He worked directly on the Arab Spring, and Hillary sent Alex as the US representative to the expatriate rebel groups Friends of Libya and Friends of the Syrian People," the source continued, adding that Djerassi was given "special treatment."

    A State Department spokesperson confirmed Djerassi's employment with The Daily Beast
     

    From September 2007 to June 2008, Djerassi was a policy associate for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

     


    The Yale and Princeton alum—the son of Maxwell’s sister Isabel—apparently returned for Clinton’s 2016 presidential run.

     

    https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1297135782403153920

    https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/clinton%20neck_0.jpg

    https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1294899079407734784

    Bill Clinton stayed in Jeffrey Epstein 's villa private Caribbean island of Little Saint James after his presidency ended, Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts claims.

     


    Clinton ‘strolled into the darkness’ with two girls while staying on pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s private Caribbean island

     


    Epstein told her that Clinton 'owes me a favor', which is why he was on the Caribbean island.

     


    Roberts said orgies 'were a constant thing' on the private island.

     


    Hillary’s absence from the night made it easy for his [Bill Clinton's] apparent provocative cheeky side to come out

     


    In addition to Clinton, Roberts said she also recalled seeing Al Gore, Naomi Campbell, and Heidi Klum on Epstein's private jet named 'Lolita Express.'

     

    Summary:

    -Hillary Clinton "gifted" a powerful a "very powerful" position at the State Department to Ghislaine Maxwell's nephew Alexander Djerassi. Djerassi worked directly under Hillary. Despite being fresh out of college, Djerassi was placed in charge of the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, covering the Middle East. He was sent as a US representative to communicate with rebel groups, in Libya and Syria.

    -Bill Clinton got a back massage from an Epstein victim during a trip to Africa.

    -According to a court document, Bill Clinton stayed in a private villa on Epstein's orgy island. While there, he was accompanied by "2 young girls." They "strolled into the darkness" together. Hillary was not with him.

    -Epstein claimed that Clinton "owes me a favor."

    - Al Gore, Naomi Campbell, and Heidi Klum were spotted on Epstein's "Lolita Express" jet.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @JohnnyWalker123, @El Dato, @Gordo, @Anon

    The creepy billionaire’s maintenance man at his Palm Beach mansion, Juan Alessi, is quoted in the court docs as saying that he, as a worker of Epstein’s, had met “Prince Diana’s secretary with her children”.

    “I then listed Senator Mitchell, Prince Andrew, Princess Sarah Ferguson, Miss Yugoslavia, Miss Germany, Alan Dershowitz, Princess Diana’s secretary with her children, Mr Trump, Mr Robert Kennedy Jr, Frederik Fekkai, and a couple Noble prize winners as celebrities that I had seen while working for Mr Epstein.”

    Here’s a picture of Prince Andrew with Epstein on yacht, partying near Phuket. There are topless women on board.

    The Duke of York, 59, who divorced Sarah Ferguson in 1996, was also pictured holidaying in Phuket, Thailand, with the controversial financier and several topless women in 2001.

    Here’s another story involving Prince Andrew with a topless female.

    Summary:

    -Princes William and Harry went to Epstein’s mansion when they were quite young.

    -Senator Mitchell, Prince Andrew, Princess Sarah Ferguson, Miss Yugoslavia, Miss Germany, Alan Dershowitz, Princess Diana’s secretary, Mr. Trump, Mr. Robert Kennedy Jr, Frederik Fekkai, and a couple Noble prize winners were also spotted at the mansion.

    -Prince Andrew and Epstein partied with topless women on a yacht near Phuket, Thailand.

    -Prince Andrew was seen grinding on a girl on Epstein’s orgy island (the place where Bill Clinton also stayed).

    -Prince Andrew REALLY likes topless females.

    -Protesters are outside Buckingham Palace right now, yelling “pedophile” at Prince Andrew.

    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The only fact on that list is that there were topless women on a yacht. I find it funny that you think this is notable. You know that women sunbathing topless is pretty ordinary in many parts of Europe? Being English, I found it amusing as a kid, but hardly scandalous.

    Also, why own a yacht unless you can have beautiful topless women sunbathing on it...

    In Germany, full nudity in areas of public swimming pools, admittedly reserved for adults, is utterly normal. You can wander into the relevant selection by accident. It is not just a thing of big liberal cities either, but in small towns and rural areas too.


    Prince Andrew REALLY likes topless females.
     
    🤷🏼‍♂️

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Juckett

    , @Gordo
    @JohnnyWalker123

    According to this entertaining though possibly not 100% verified piece Prince Andrew may have some Rothschild blood:

    https://www.royalfoibles.com/the-queens-favorite-bastard/

    Doesn't really matter for much longer, once Her Majesty passes Aus and Canada will become republics and soon after that UK and NZ will follow.

    That will be the time for Trump to strike if he is still in power, offering statehood to each of the nations or provinces, what a superpower that would be.

    , @Ragno
    @JohnnyWalker123


    -Prince Andrew REALLY likes topless females.
     
    Him, and 500 million other blokes.
  14. If QE2 offers us the same deal we had in ‘76, we should jump at it.

  15. South Park vaguely played with that idea a few years ago.

  16. US public schools reorienting their curriculums around BLM and the 1619 Project.

    https://mol.im/a/8650877

    (Daily Mail)

  17. I don’t know. Maybe if Harry had gone for a Kardashian…

    I don’t know what Meghan’s appeal was.

  18. Your theory is a nice continuation of “None Dare Call It Conspiracy.” Have you reached out to the John Birch Society? The deader Communism gets, they hurt for lack of a cohesive enemy to fixate on.

    • Replies: @utu
    @For what it's worth

    John Birch Society? - More like Lyndon La Rouche.

    , @J.Ross
    @For what it's worth

    >the deader communism gets
    Do you not follow news at all?

    Replies: @For what it's worth

  19. @Anon
    Harry could be the biggest fool in living memory.

    Giving up a royal fishbowl in England only to seek a different fishbowl as a grasping reality TV star in L.A. does not strike me as trading up.

    Replies: @Jane Plain

    Harry could be the biggest fool in living memory.

    In history.

    Giving up a royal fishbowl in England only to seek a different fishbowl as a grasping reality TV star in L.A. does not strike me as trading up.

    He didn’t have to live in any fishbowl if he didn’t want to. The British would have been totally understanding if he had done the smart thing: married a well-born girl, mostly retired from public duties, and spent half his life out of Britain, but discreetly. In fact, they’d have loved him for it.

    This behavior is unforgiveable.

    • Replies: @notsaying
    @Jane Plain

    If their goal was freedom and independence they have much less under their present circumstances in which they have tremendous pressure to make money and reveal their private selves.

    Apparently they want to establish themselves in a parallel universe here in which they play the same role to the American people as they should be playing to the British people at home in the UK. But of course there is no such role available to them here; we have no royal family. I saw someone quoted yesterday claiming that by participating in our politics through get out the vote efforts they are breaking the rules of the UK monarchy and that makes sense to me.

    I think they should go back before the break is too hard to heal. If they are determined to stay, they should give up their titles and Harry should give up his claim to the throne. I don't think they will do this though. I think they will stick to the incomplete and unmanageable split.

    Replies: @Jane Plain, @Hibernian

  20. her daughter’s allegation that she was set on fire by “classic Wisconsin frat boys”

    She misinterpreted their intent. The were inviting her to their impromptu fish boil.

  21. @ATBOTL
    Cecil Rhodes was a tool of Jewish bankers as was the British Empire.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anon, @flyingtiger

    Cecil Rhodes was a tool of Jewish bankers as was the British Empire.

    As were Clarence Darrow and H. L. Mencken, who backed the ACLU in their persecution of Bryan.

  22. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, a Black woman beat the holy shit out of Alec Baldwin's creepy daughter, relieved her of her belongings, and another secret Trump voter is born...

    https://pagesix.com/2020/08/22/ireland-baldwin-attacked-robbed-by-desperate-woman-on-drugs/?_ga=2.175753186.1147942402.1598231735-1107305132.1598231735

    Replies: @Bubba, @ThreeCranes, @Anonymous, @GeneralRipper, @IHTG, @JimDandy

    Those tattoos look hideous on her. Looks like she dated a felon out on parole passing himself off as a tattoo artist.

  23. They’ll have to replace the Declaration of Independence with something else.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all theys are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with totally interchangeable genitals…”

  24. If you were really clever you could identify .01%-ers who are NOT part of the Rhodes plan.

    Here is the book which has all the best dope!

    By far the best theory was Lyndon Larouche’s continual secret war since the 12th century between a secret society of Platonists and a secret society of Aristotilians.

  25. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, a Black woman beat the holy shit out of Alec Baldwin's creepy daughter, relieved her of her belongings, and another secret Trump voter is born...

    https://pagesix.com/2020/08/22/ireland-baldwin-attacked-robbed-by-desperate-woman-on-drugs/?_ga=2.175753186.1147942402.1598231735-1107305132.1598231735

    Replies: @Bubba, @ThreeCranes, @Anonymous, @GeneralRipper, @IHTG, @JimDandy

    “and jumped in a getaway car while her husband took off.”

    “husband” Ha ha ha ha ha. Boy, she’s got a lot to learn. Or unlearn.

  26. Anonymous[130] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, a Black woman beat the holy shit out of Alec Baldwin's creepy daughter, relieved her of her belongings, and another secret Trump voter is born...

    https://pagesix.com/2020/08/22/ireland-baldwin-attacked-robbed-by-desperate-woman-on-drugs/?_ga=2.175753186.1147942402.1598231735-1107305132.1598231735

    Replies: @Bubba, @ThreeCranes, @Anonymous, @GeneralRipper, @IHTG, @JimDandy

    “The cops told me this is happening frequently because people are desperate for money right now due to Coronavirus and people being out of work,” she continued. “There is a lot of theft and muggings going down. Posting this to remind everyone to be really careful and watch your surroundings. These are really difficult times and we need to look out for one another.”

    Or, you know, she’s going to vote Biden because he’ll end these difficult Trump times, help out those desperate people and fix that broken system that’s been causing so many lately to shoplift loaves of bread, etc.

    What basis is there for thinking that BLM menacing gentrifiers and blocking roads creates secret Trump voters rather than liberals doubling-down when personally confronted by their pet issues?

    Do even Trump voters think wokeism will slow down if he wins again?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Do even Trump voters think wokeism will slow down if he wins again?
     
    No, but the resultant rage will skew its aim.
    , @Charlotte
    @Anonymous


    Do even Trump voters think wokeism will slow down if he wins again?
     
    I don’t think wokeism will slow down . . . but do you think Biden/Harris will slow it down or speed it up? Biden’s too mentally compromised to be a force, and I doubt Harris has any guiding principle beyond “what will make me look good in the media and ensure me a second term?”
  27. My new conspiracy theory: Princess Meghan Markle is an agent of the conspiracy launched by South African zillionaire Cecil Rhodes in the 1890s to reverse the American Revolution and reunite the Anglosphere. The plan is for her to become President while her husband is King, then abrogate the Declaration of Independence.

    People will think this is a joke because Steve wrote this post as one, but her insane goal is just this minus the political conspiracy, she wants to try as hard as she can without driving him off of using her marriage to him to peruse a presidential run. She has had her PR crew run stories suggesting this.

    I have to say though, both she and Trump certainly do make the case for lack of self-awareness being crucial to making things happen.

    She would also settle for becoming queen of a ‘diverse’ royal family once the horribly white royals are deemed to be ‘not who we are’ and it’s seen as crucial not to just end the institution but to conquer it.

    Maybe she even thinks she can pull off both.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @Altai

    I have previously posted something along the same lines to Sailer's "joke conspiracy theory" - I too, am somewhat serious about The Duchess of Sussex's malevolent intentions. One of the things that caught my attention was the way some Americans were referencing Markle by her royal title. This may be her royal title but in no way, shape or form are we compelled to address her as such. Her son, Prince Archie is an American citizen by default & can run for the office of President. I know it sounds crazy but I think linking American blacks w/the royal family of Britain will be a neat way to control the ever diminishing white hoi-polloi of both countries.

  28. @For what it's worth
    Your theory is a nice continuation of "None Dare Call It Conspiracy." Have you reached out to the John Birch Society? The deader Communism gets, they hurt for lack of a cohesive enemy to fixate on.

    Replies: @utu, @J.Ross

    John Birch Society? – More like Lyndon La Rouche.

  29. White blue collar Antifa celebrates murder of Cannon Hinnant:

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @fnn

    Who is the White chick? I bet she put him.up to it. She seems to think it funny. She should be made an example also.

  30. Off Topic:

    Can you believe it?

    “Former New York Times reporter Kurt Eichenwald slammed Melania Trump for renovating the White House Rose Garden on Saturday, saying he is furious because the first lady is a ‘foreigner’ who has ‘no right to wreck our history’.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8656465/Former-NYT-reporter-xenophobic-meltdown-foreigner-Melanias-new-White-House-garden-design.html#article-8656465

    • Replies: @Altai
    @notsaying

    It reminds me of Spike Lee getting angry at people moving into Harlem and displacing the black residents. 'You can't do that!'. I'm sure Bill the Butcher would have agreed but I'm also sure Lee would explain WASPs were the bad guys so that's why it wasn't okay when they said it.

  31. @For what it's worth
    Your theory is a nice continuation of "None Dare Call It Conspiracy." Have you reached out to the John Birch Society? The deader Communism gets, they hurt for lack of a cohesive enemy to fixate on.

    Replies: @utu, @J.Ross

    >the deader communism gets
    Do you not follow news at all?

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @For what it's worth
    @J.Ross

    Do you think that World Communism, as an organized conspiracy based in Mother Russia, is a thing?

    Replies: @J.Ross

  32. I’m digging the conspiracy theory stuff but haven’t you heard the news? Kenosha, Wisconsin will soon be the new Minneapolis after an unarmed black man was shot dead by a white cop tonight.

    • Replies: @wren
    @Anonymous

    Althea's friends are there:

    https://www.twitter.com/HurricaneLucid/status/1297731987420192769

    , @wren
    @Anonymous

    According to this gal he's not dead.

    https://www.twitter.com/HurricaneLucid

    He was beating up his gf and went for a gun when the cops showed up, or something like that...

  33. @JohnnyWalker123
    @JohnnyWalker123

    https://twitter.com/FakeWelt/status/1160964681198166016


    The creepy billionaire’s maintenance man at his Palm Beach mansion, Juan Alessi, is quoted in the court docs as saying that he, as a worker of Epstein’s, had met “Prince Diana’s secretary with her children”.

     


    “I then listed Senator Mitchell, Prince Andrew, Princess Sarah Ferguson, Miss Yugoslavia, Miss Germany, Alan Dershowitz, Princess Diana’s secretary with her children, Mr Trump, Mr Robert Kennedy Jr, Frederik Fekkai, and a couple Noble prize winners as celebrities that I had seen while working for Mr Epstein.”
     
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/NINTCHDBPICT000505118110-1-e1562953270899.jpg

    Here's a picture of Prince Andrew with Epstein on yacht, partying near Phuket. There are topless women on board.

    The Duke of York, 59, who divorced Sarah Ferguson in 1996, was also pictured holidaying in Phuket, Thailand, with the controversial financier and several topless women in 2001.

     

    Here's another story involving Prince Andrew with a topless female.

    https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1265223961761193986

    https://twitter.com/KirbySommers/status/1297438236604870659

    Summary:

    -Princes William and Harry went to Epstein's mansion when they were quite young.

    -Senator Mitchell, Prince Andrew, Princess Sarah Ferguson, Miss Yugoslavia, Miss Germany, Alan Dershowitz, Princess Diana’s secretary, Mr. Trump, Mr. Robert Kennedy Jr, Frederik Fekkai, and a couple Noble prize winners were also spotted at the mansion.

    -Prince Andrew and Epstein partied with topless women on a yacht near Phuket, Thailand.

    -Prince Andrew was seen grinding on a girl on Epstein's orgy island (the place where Bill Clinton also stayed).

    -Prince Andrew REALLY likes topless females.

    -Protesters are outside Buckingham Palace right now, yelling "pedophile" at Prince Andrew.

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful, @Gordo, @Ragno

    The only fact on that list is that there were topless women on a yacht. I find it funny that you think this is notable. You know that women sunbathing topless is pretty ordinary in many parts of Europe? Being English, I found it amusing as a kid, but hardly scandalous.

    Also, why own a yacht unless you can have beautiful topless women sunbathing on it…

    In Germany, full nudity in areas of public swimming pools, admittedly reserved for adults, is utterly normal. You can wander into the relevant selection by accident. It is not just a thing of big liberal cities either, but in small towns and rural areas too.

    Prince Andrew REALLY likes topless females.

    🤷🏼‍♂️

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Not Only Wrathful


    In Germany, full nudity in areas of public swimming pools, admittedly reserved for adults, is utterly normal.
     
    There was a funny incident recently in Berlin where a wild boar stole a nudist's bag containing his laptop and ran off with it.


    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/321ebebbc74a396d10f7c7c1a775f515858beeae/0_231_2048_1228/master/2048.jpg?width=605&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=dc446214b54bb9217f7fc48728638023

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/fd38ed4c17d0d1a63788be70365a34a022093a04/0_39_1639_983/master/1639.jpg?width=605&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=3e16d0a9b502441ae1f7070ac00a9991

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @black sea, @Anonymous

    , @Juckett
    @Not Only Wrathful

    Exactly, a society that exalts the profound lyrical abilities of Cardi B and her WAP doesn't care about some mammary glands.

  34. @Jane Plain
    @Anon


    Harry could be the biggest fool in living memory.
     
    In history.


    Giving up a royal fishbowl in England only to seek a different fishbowl as a grasping reality TV star in L.A. does not strike me as trading up.
     
    He didn't have to live in any fishbowl if he didn't want to. The British would have been totally understanding if he had done the smart thing: married a well-born girl, mostly retired from public duties, and spent half his life out of Britain, but discreetly. In fact, they'd have loved him for it.

    This behavior is unforgiveable.

    Replies: @notsaying

    If their goal was freedom and independence they have much less under their present circumstances in which they have tremendous pressure to make money and reveal their private selves.

    Apparently they want to establish themselves in a parallel universe here in which they play the same role to the American people as they should be playing to the British people at home in the UK. But of course there is no such role available to them here; we have no royal family. I saw someone quoted yesterday claiming that by participating in our politics through get out the vote efforts they are breaking the rules of the UK monarchy and that makes sense to me.

    I think they should go back before the break is too hard to heal. If they are determined to stay, they should give up their titles and Harry should give up his claim to the throne. I don’t think they will do this though. I think they will stick to the incomplete and unmanageable split.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    @notsaying

    Their goal was NOT freedom & independence. It was Hollywood superstardom.


    I think they should go back before the break is too hard to heal.
     
    Stop it. It's over. First of all Meghan doesn't have anything to "go back" to - her life is one of ceaseless and thoughtless momentum. She would be ignored and loathed if they "went back" to Britain. It's not going to happen, even if she wanted to, which she doesn't. She was never interested in being a British royal.

    Harry is different. Blood is thicker than water, and when the marriage breaks up, he'll be up a tree. He could go back, but will he? I don't care to speculate what will happen then. Anything. My suspicion is he'll run around the world on Daddy's dime and get blown up in a mine field, or die in a helicopter crash, gibbering about "mental health."

    Replies: @Old Palo Altan

    , @Hibernian
    @notsaying


    ...we have no royal family.
     
    Except the Kennedys.
  35. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, a Black woman beat the holy shit out of Alec Baldwin's creepy daughter, relieved her of her belongings, and another secret Trump voter is born...

    https://pagesix.com/2020/08/22/ireland-baldwin-attacked-robbed-by-desperate-woman-on-drugs/?_ga=2.175753186.1147942402.1598231735-1107305132.1598231735

    Replies: @Bubba, @ThreeCranes, @Anonymous, @GeneralRipper, @IHTG, @JimDandy

    One of the best things in life is reading about shitlibs and/or their children, beaten, maimed or killed by the “diversity”.

    You just made my day.

  36. @Buzz Mohawk
    Steve, take your meds.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Steve, take your meds.

    Conspiracy theory = A hypnotic sorcery.

    • Agree: Haruto Rat
  37. @notsaying
    Off Topic:

    Can you believe it?

    "Former New York Times reporter Kurt Eichenwald slammed Melania Trump for renovating the White House Rose Garden on Saturday, saying he is furious because the first lady is a 'foreigner' who has 'no right to wreck our history'."

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8656465/Former-NYT-reporter-xenophobic-meltdown-foreigner-Melanias-new-White-House-garden-design.html#article-8656465

    Replies: @Altai

    It reminds me of Spike Lee getting angry at people moving into Harlem and displacing the black residents. ‘You can’t do that!’. I’m sure Bill the Butcher would have agreed but I’m also sure Lee would explain WASPs were the bad guys so that’s why it wasn’t okay when they said it.

  38. @Anonymous
    I’m digging the conspiracy theory stuff but haven’t you heard the news? Kenosha, Wisconsin will soon be the new Minneapolis after an unarmed black man was shot dead by a white cop tonight.

    https://twitter.com/KittyLists/status/1297720873789472768?s=20

    Replies: @wren, @wren

    Althea’s friends are there:

  39. Blind Gossip, the most reliable Hollywood insider gossip website, has been covering Markle’s antics for years and she’s just a desperate social climber lone wolf who will do anything for money and attention. Weeks ago they revelead that she now wants to be the new Oprah and lo and behold, they were right. https://blindgossip.com/three-moves/

    OT: Black man killed by police in Wisconsin as he reaches into his car, shot in the back multiple times and caught on video. Crowds already assembling there. Will this turn into nationwide riots again? Stay tuned. At this point if you’re still a white person living in a heavily black area…I don’t know what to tell you.

  40. @fnn
    White blue collar Antifa celebrates murder of Cannon Hinnant:

    https://twitter.com/CatholicFren/status/1296597969043509248




    https://twitter.com/Astro_Fash/status/1297224201070243840

    Replies: @Whiskey

    Who is the White chick? I bet she put him.up to it. She seems to think it funny. She should be made an example also.

  41. @Anonymous
    I’m digging the conspiracy theory stuff but haven’t you heard the news? Kenosha, Wisconsin will soon be the new Minneapolis after an unarmed black man was shot dead by a white cop tonight.

    https://twitter.com/KittyLists/status/1297720873789472768?s=20

    Replies: @wren, @wren

    According to this gal he’s not dead.

    https://www.twitter.com/HurricaneLucid

    He was beating up his gf and went for a gun when the cops showed up, or something like that…

  42. @Not Only Wrathful
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The only fact on that list is that there were topless women on a yacht. I find it funny that you think this is notable. You know that women sunbathing topless is pretty ordinary in many parts of Europe? Being English, I found it amusing as a kid, but hardly scandalous.

    Also, why own a yacht unless you can have beautiful topless women sunbathing on it...

    In Germany, full nudity in areas of public swimming pools, admittedly reserved for adults, is utterly normal. You can wander into the relevant selection by accident. It is not just a thing of big liberal cities either, but in small towns and rural areas too.


    Prince Andrew REALLY likes topless females.
     
    🤷🏼‍♂️

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Juckett

    In Germany, full nudity in areas of public swimming pools, admittedly reserved for adults, is utterly normal.

    There was a funny incident recently in Berlin where a wild boar stole a nudist’s bag containing his laptop and ran off with it.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @Rob McX

    That guy definitely NEEDS to get his laptop back before the pigs have a look at it.

    , @black sea
    @Rob McX

    As a middle-aged relative of mine commented after having visited the nude beaches in France, "most people look a lot better with their clothes on."

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful

    , @Anonymous
    @Rob McX

    Hog on hog crime

  43. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1296937228401287168

    Hillary Clinton "gifted" a prestigious job in the Obama State Department to the nephew of accused pedophile and sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell, according to OK! Magazine - and whose employment was confirmed by the Daily Beast.

    Alexander Djerassi, the son of Maxwell's sister Isabel, went from working on Hillary Clinton's 2008 Presidential campaign, to a "very powerful and prestigious position" within the state department, working under Clinton in charge of the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs. He returned to Clinton's 2016 campaign, according to the Beast.

    "Secretary Clinton gave Alex a job in one of the most sensitive areas of Obama’s executive apparatus," an anonymous source told OK!. "The fact Alex Djerassi, fresh out of college, was put in charge of the State Department’s Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, covering the Middle East, was an interesting move."

    "He worked directly on the Arab Spring, and Hillary sent Alex as the US representative to the expatriate rebel groups Friends of Libya and Friends of the Syrian People," the source continued, adding that Djerassi was given "special treatment."

    A State Department spokesperson confirmed Djerassi's employment with The Daily Beast
     

    From September 2007 to June 2008, Djerassi was a policy associate for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

     


    The Yale and Princeton alum—the son of Maxwell’s sister Isabel—apparently returned for Clinton’s 2016 presidential run.

     

    https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1297135782403153920

    https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/clinton%20neck_0.jpg

    https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1294899079407734784

    Bill Clinton stayed in Jeffrey Epstein 's villa private Caribbean island of Little Saint James after his presidency ended, Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts claims.

     


    Clinton ‘strolled into the darkness’ with two girls while staying on pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s private Caribbean island

     


    Epstein told her that Clinton 'owes me a favor', which is why he was on the Caribbean island.

     


    Roberts said orgies 'were a constant thing' on the private island.

     


    Hillary’s absence from the night made it easy for his [Bill Clinton's] apparent provocative cheeky side to come out

     


    In addition to Clinton, Roberts said she also recalled seeing Al Gore, Naomi Campbell, and Heidi Klum on Epstein's private jet named 'Lolita Express.'

     

    Summary:

    -Hillary Clinton "gifted" a powerful a "very powerful" position at the State Department to Ghislaine Maxwell's nephew Alexander Djerassi. Djerassi worked directly under Hillary. Despite being fresh out of college, Djerassi was placed in charge of the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, covering the Middle East. He was sent as a US representative to communicate with rebel groups, in Libya and Syria.

    -Bill Clinton got a back massage from an Epstein victim during a trip to Africa.

    -According to a court document, Bill Clinton stayed in a private villa on Epstein's orgy island. While there, he was accompanied by "2 young girls." They "strolled into the darkness" together. Hillary was not with him.

    -Epstein claimed that Clinton "owes me a favor."

    - Al Gore, Naomi Campbell, and Heidi Klum were spotted on Epstein's "Lolita Express" jet.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @JohnnyWalker123, @El Dato, @Gordo, @Anon

    “He worked directly on the Arab Spring”

    Definitely beats being a low-grade accounting at Treblinka.

  44. Well, I’m somewhat skeptical of these sorts of “conspiracy theories” regarding secret plots by successors of Rhodes to enhance the worldwide power of the British Empire. After all, since the plotters were mostly some of the top public figures in the British Empire, what else would anyone expect them to be doing? It’s like a “secret plot” by the top Google executives to establish Google’s supremacy among Internet companies.

    But I’ve been doing quite a lot of history reading in recent months, and have discovered some odd items regarding one of the names mentioned.

    Until earlier this year, I’d probably never heard of Leo Amery, but he was actually a pretty prominent political figure of that era, one of Churchill’s closest lifelong friends and eventually an important member of the British Cabinet. He was also secretly Jewish, and according to some accounts, was the individual who actually drafted the Balfour Declaration calling for the establishment of the State of Israel, which according to many historians played a crucial role in bringing America into the World War I on the British side.

    But oddly enough, during World War II Amery’s eldest son John became a great supporter of Adolf Hitler, defected to Nazi Germany, and was a leading wartime propaganda broadcaster for the Third Reich, being afterward hanged as a traitor by the British.

    Offhand, these strange family twists seem far more shocking than claims that there was a secret plot by the leaders of the British Empire to enhance the power of the British Empire. And although they seem pretty solidly documented, they never made it into any of my standard history books, so I’d never heard a word about it. Maybe some “conspiracy expert” can say whether the LaRouchies or some other groups covered it.

    • Replies: @Jake
    @Ron Unz

    I have never heard of either Amery, that I recall - perhaps I could have in reference to The Balfour Declaration. But then again, I am much less well read than you.

    That family tale does make perfect sense to me, however. Was Leo Amery 'secretly Jewish' in that few knew of his ethnic heritage, or did he practice Rabbinic Judaism in secret? Very, very few of the Jews who entered the Church of England, or one of its offshoots in the Anglican Communion, did so sincerely in religious terms. They became Anglicans in religious membership for economic, political, educational, and cultural motives. Their numbers, going back to the 18th century, were quite large. Whatever murmuring there was among the various degrees of Brit WASP Elites about ethnic Jews joining the club via marriage and non-religious conversion, the new money added to Brit WASP families and institutions was the deciding factor.

    Yes, WASP Elites are, and always have been, every bit as money-hungry and money-loving as Jews. Yes, back to at least archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell, the WASP Elites have been tied up with Jewish financiers. Yes, America's secular philoSemitism, which grew naturally and inevitably from Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, meant that anything like the Balfour Declaration would have whetted the appetites of hordes of Americans to enter WW1, on the side of Brit WASPs who were on the side of Jews.

    What is really interesting is that John Amery became a Nazi. Did he at some point in life ask himself what it meant that the international language of Jews, Yiddish, is Germanic? I assume he knew that Angles and Saxons were Germans and that English is a Germanic language (made much more beautiful and filled with exceptions to all rules by the French admixture). Did he also know that by the time of Charlemagne, the word 'Saxon' meant both that specific Germanic tribe and all Continental Germans who remained pagan and violently opposed to anything Roman and Catholic? Did he then conclude that in the 20th century, the Nazis, not the Brit WASPs, were the exemplars of manly Germanic - fully Saxon - culture and that that culture was, as Yiddish strongly suggest, one that is best for Jews in Europe who intend to be anti-Christ and anti-Roman?

    Whatever the likely answers for John Amery's life and his family history, it is a given that any such investigations today are not kosher, to either WASP Elites or Jews.

    Replies: @Ron Unz, @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree, @Brás Cubas

    , @kaganovitch
    @Ron Unz

    Offhand, these strange family twists seem far more shocking than claims that there was a secret plot by the leaders of the British Empire to enhance the power of the British Empire. And although they seem pretty solidly documented, they never made it into any of my standard history books, so I’d never heard a word about it.

    I'm not sure why John Amery's treason would be expected to make it into general history textbooks. He was a very minor figure in the scheme of things. It's not entirely clear that he himself knew of his Jewish ancestry, which consisted of one Jewish grandparent, (his paternal grandmother) whose own parents had already converted to Anglicanism.

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    , @Jane Plain
    @Ron Unz

    I wonder how much of these networks were also bisexual, arising from the public school experience.

    , @Anon
    @Ron Unz

    The memoirs of Henry Wickham Steed, editor of The Times and government factotum, are interesting. He pats himself on the back about his central role in bringing down the Habsburg empire. He certainly acted as spy, Deep State diplomatist, NGO organizer, Versailles negotiator and probable Freemason. Never had an actual government position. When he speaks about his friend Col Mandell House, a close reading is advisable, House was first and foremost a Freemason.

    Googling the names he tosses out is great fun. For example, fellow obscure journalist William Lavino crops up as Rothschild client. https://www.rothschildarchive.org/business/rothschild_clients/

    Wickham Steed had the chutzpah to rendezvous as private citizen with the Black Pope and ask him whether the Jesuits were on the side of people’s liberation or the monarchy. Steed interpreted the Jesuit General‘s response as lack of depth and vision.

    His meetings and opinion on the Young Turks I found interesting, reminiscent of “but he’s our son of a bitch.”

    Another interesting read are George Buchanan’s memoirs. (the British Ambassador to the Tsar’s court.)

    , @Rob McX
    @Ron Unz

    It seems unlikely that that Leo Amery's Jewish ancestry was a secret when he was alive. His mother's identity would have been well known. Her brother was the linguist Gottlieb Leitner, who worked as an interpreter and administrator for the British in the Crimea and India.

    I don't think the execution of John Amery was ever deliberately ignored in England. I've come across lots of references to it in many places down through the years, including the memoirs of the executioner Albert Pierrepoint. I remember John Amery's brother Julian, who was a member of parliament, talking about it in a British magazine interview in the 1990s. The case didn't get as much publicity as the execution of William "Haw-Haw" Joyce, because Joyce's broadcasts became very famous in England during the war.

    , @Anonymous
    @Ron Unz

    Kids like to rebel. *shrug*. This particular kid just took things a little further than normal.

    My dad was a leftist, which is probably the main reason I now frequent this place. My mother later married a right-wing guy, and so of course my half-brother is a leftist.

  45. @Achmed E. Newman
    Why would they want the United States back at this point?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Jake

    Why would they want the United States back at this point?

    Ah, Achmed – back is the key concept of the left now – that’s why they’re the regressive left.

    See? – They could easily join forces with Joe Biden and his interview-partner Cardi B. – because she’s an expert of the IT-backness now (cf. Wet Ass Pussy). – One Size Fits All – IT’s the Back-Size!

  46. @Altai

    My new conspiracy theory: Princess Meghan Markle is an agent of the conspiracy launched by South African zillionaire Cecil Rhodes in the 1890s to reverse the American Revolution and reunite the Anglosphere. The plan is for her to become President while her husband is King, then abrogate the Declaration of Independence.
     
    People will think this is a joke because Steve wrote this post as one, but her insane goal is just this minus the political conspiracy, she wants to try as hard as she can without driving him off of using her marriage to him to peruse a presidential run. She has had her PR crew run stories suggesting this.

    I have to say though, both she and Trump certainly do make the case for lack of self-awareness being crucial to making things happen.

    She would also settle for becoming queen of a 'diverse' royal family once the horribly white royals are deemed to be 'not who we are' and it's seen as crucial not to just end the institution but to conquer it.

    Maybe she even thinks she can pull off both.

    Replies: @duncsbaby

    I have previously posted something along the same lines to Sailer’s “joke conspiracy theory” – I too, am somewhat serious about The Duchess of Sussex’s malevolent intentions. One of the things that caught my attention was the way some Americans were referencing Markle by her royal title. This may be her royal title but in no way, shape or form are we compelled to address her as such. Her son, Prince Archie is an American citizen by default & can run for the office of President. I know it sounds crazy but I think linking American blacks w/the royal family of Britain will be a neat way to control the ever diminishing white hoi-polloi of both countries.

  47. @Rob McX
    @Not Only Wrathful


    In Germany, full nudity in areas of public swimming pools, admittedly reserved for adults, is utterly normal.
     
    There was a funny incident recently in Berlin where a wild boar stole a nudist's bag containing his laptop and ran off with it.


    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/321ebebbc74a396d10f7c7c1a775f515858beeae/0_231_2048_1228/master/2048.jpg?width=605&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=dc446214b54bb9217f7fc48728638023

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/fd38ed4c17d0d1a63788be70365a34a022093a04/0_39_1639_983/master/1639.jpg?width=605&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=3e16d0a9b502441ae1f7070ac00a9991

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @black sea, @Anonymous

    That guy definitely NEEDS to get his laptop back before the pigs have a look at it.

  48. You have mentioned Rhodes and his Lion Cubs numerous times over the years, and you seem to be having an effect out there. But not as you might have hoped.

    The LaRouche Movement have dropped their pointing at the very real effects of Zionist influence on America and elsewhere. Obviously, old Lyndon or his widow or whoever no longer considered it politic.

    It has been replaced by the Rhodes Trust Conspiracy Theory. The secret society created by Cecil Rhodes controls the Anglosphere . The US and Canada are still controlled by the British establishment ! Obviously, LaRouche himself had been thinking about this after he discovered that Queen Elizabeth II was the world’s biggest drug trafficker !

    The LaRouche front man is a guy called Matthew Ehret, who appears on several websites, but thankfully not here. So far, Mr Steve, he’s not given you credit for devising their conspiracy theory. Given LaRouche’s history, I think that’s unlikely to happen.

  49. @Rob McX
    @Not Only Wrathful


    In Germany, full nudity in areas of public swimming pools, admittedly reserved for adults, is utterly normal.
     
    There was a funny incident recently in Berlin where a wild boar stole a nudist's bag containing his laptop and ran off with it.


    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/321ebebbc74a396d10f7c7c1a775f515858beeae/0_231_2048_1228/master/2048.jpg?width=605&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=dc446214b54bb9217f7fc48728638023

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/fd38ed4c17d0d1a63788be70365a34a022093a04/0_39_1639_983/master/1639.jpg?width=605&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=3e16d0a9b502441ae1f7070ac00a9991

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @black sea, @Anonymous

    As a middle-aged relative of mine commented after having visited the nude beaches in France, “most people look a lot better with their clothes on.”

    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
    @black sea

    The vast majority of people are terribly out of shape nowadays. Eating seems to have become a function of mood regulation rather than either a way to sustenance or an art.

  50. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, a Black woman beat the holy shit out of Alec Baldwin's creepy daughter, relieved her of her belongings, and another secret Trump voter is born...

    https://pagesix.com/2020/08/22/ireland-baldwin-attacked-robbed-by-desperate-woman-on-drugs/?_ga=2.175753186.1147942402.1598231735-1107305132.1598231735

    Replies: @Bubba, @ThreeCranes, @Anonymous, @GeneralRipper, @IHTG, @JimDandy

    another secret Trump voter is born

    You mean the black woman?

    • LOL: HammerJack
  51. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1296937228401287168

    Hillary Clinton "gifted" a prestigious job in the Obama State Department to the nephew of accused pedophile and sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell, according to OK! Magazine - and whose employment was confirmed by the Daily Beast.

    Alexander Djerassi, the son of Maxwell's sister Isabel, went from working on Hillary Clinton's 2008 Presidential campaign, to a "very powerful and prestigious position" within the state department, working under Clinton in charge of the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs. He returned to Clinton's 2016 campaign, according to the Beast.

    "Secretary Clinton gave Alex a job in one of the most sensitive areas of Obama’s executive apparatus," an anonymous source told OK!. "The fact Alex Djerassi, fresh out of college, was put in charge of the State Department’s Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, covering the Middle East, was an interesting move."

    "He worked directly on the Arab Spring, and Hillary sent Alex as the US representative to the expatriate rebel groups Friends of Libya and Friends of the Syrian People," the source continued, adding that Djerassi was given "special treatment."

    A State Department spokesperson confirmed Djerassi's employment with The Daily Beast
     

    From September 2007 to June 2008, Djerassi was a policy associate for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

     


    The Yale and Princeton alum—the son of Maxwell’s sister Isabel—apparently returned for Clinton’s 2016 presidential run.

     

    https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1297135782403153920

    https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/clinton%20neck_0.jpg

    https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1294899079407734784

    Bill Clinton stayed in Jeffrey Epstein 's villa private Caribbean island of Little Saint James after his presidency ended, Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts claims.

     


    Clinton ‘strolled into the darkness’ with two girls while staying on pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s private Caribbean island

     


    Epstein told her that Clinton 'owes me a favor', which is why he was on the Caribbean island.

     


    Roberts said orgies 'were a constant thing' on the private island.

     


    Hillary’s absence from the night made it easy for his [Bill Clinton's] apparent provocative cheeky side to come out

     


    In addition to Clinton, Roberts said she also recalled seeing Al Gore, Naomi Campbell, and Heidi Klum on Epstein's private jet named 'Lolita Express.'

     

    Summary:

    -Hillary Clinton "gifted" a powerful a "very powerful" position at the State Department to Ghislaine Maxwell's nephew Alexander Djerassi. Djerassi worked directly under Hillary. Despite being fresh out of college, Djerassi was placed in charge of the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, covering the Middle East. He was sent as a US representative to communicate with rebel groups, in Libya and Syria.

    -Bill Clinton got a back massage from an Epstein victim during a trip to Africa.

    -According to a court document, Bill Clinton stayed in a private villa on Epstein's orgy island. While there, he was accompanied by "2 young girls." They "strolled into the darkness" together. Hillary was not with him.

    -Epstein claimed that Clinton "owes me a favor."

    - Al Gore, Naomi Campbell, and Heidi Klum were spotted on Epstein's "Lolita Express" jet.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @JohnnyWalker123, @El Dato, @Gordo, @Anon

    -According to a court document, Bill Clinton stayed in a private villa on Epstein’s orgy island. While there, he was accompanied by “2 young girls.” They “strolled into the darkness” together. Hillary was not with him.

    Well he wouldn’t want to share would he?

  52. @JohnnyWalker123
    @JohnnyWalker123

    https://twitter.com/FakeWelt/status/1160964681198166016


    The creepy billionaire’s maintenance man at his Palm Beach mansion, Juan Alessi, is quoted in the court docs as saying that he, as a worker of Epstein’s, had met “Prince Diana’s secretary with her children”.

     


    “I then listed Senator Mitchell, Prince Andrew, Princess Sarah Ferguson, Miss Yugoslavia, Miss Germany, Alan Dershowitz, Princess Diana’s secretary with her children, Mr Trump, Mr Robert Kennedy Jr, Frederik Fekkai, and a couple Noble prize winners as celebrities that I had seen while working for Mr Epstein.”
     
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/NINTCHDBPICT000505118110-1-e1562953270899.jpg

    Here's a picture of Prince Andrew with Epstein on yacht, partying near Phuket. There are topless women on board.

    The Duke of York, 59, who divorced Sarah Ferguson in 1996, was also pictured holidaying in Phuket, Thailand, with the controversial financier and several topless women in 2001.

     

    Here's another story involving Prince Andrew with a topless female.

    https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1265223961761193986

    https://twitter.com/KirbySommers/status/1297438236604870659

    Summary:

    -Princes William and Harry went to Epstein's mansion when they were quite young.

    -Senator Mitchell, Prince Andrew, Princess Sarah Ferguson, Miss Yugoslavia, Miss Germany, Alan Dershowitz, Princess Diana’s secretary, Mr. Trump, Mr. Robert Kennedy Jr, Frederik Fekkai, and a couple Noble prize winners were also spotted at the mansion.

    -Prince Andrew and Epstein partied with topless women on a yacht near Phuket, Thailand.

    -Prince Andrew was seen grinding on a girl on Epstein's orgy island (the place where Bill Clinton also stayed).

    -Prince Andrew REALLY likes topless females.

    -Protesters are outside Buckingham Palace right now, yelling "pedophile" at Prince Andrew.

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful, @Gordo, @Ragno

    According to this entertaining though possibly not 100% verified piece Prince Andrew may have some Rothschild blood:

    https://www.royalfoibles.com/the-queens-favorite-bastard/

    Doesn’t really matter for much longer, once Her Majesty passes Aus and Canada will become republics and soon after that UK and NZ will follow.

    That will be the time for Trump to strike if he is still in power, offering statehood to each of the nations or provinces, what a superpower that would be.

  53. @Achmed E. Newman
    Why would they want the United States back at this point?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Jake

    The US has been leading the Anglo-Zionist Empire since the Versailles Treaty.

    The WASP Empire has expanded since the days when people think the British Empire began to retreat. Royalty means nothing to it or about it. The Glorious Revolution meant that the British Monarch would be neutered and muzzled, and owned by financiers. Anti-monarchical American WASPs simply became predominant, just as had Anglo-Saxon Puritans, they of the Judaizing heresies that defined subsequent Modern English culture

    So why did Rhoades include Germans? Saxons. Martin Luther, for example, was Saxon. Saxony was always allied with/part of Prussia – modern unified Germany is and always has been at the behest of Prussia/Saxony.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Jake

    Much of your knowledge is accurate but virtually all of it is obsolete.

  54. @JohnnyD
    Instead of another show about racism, Megan Markle could play a young Kamala Harris doing whatever it takes to succeed in California politics, including Willie Brown.

    Replies: @Stephen Paul Foster, @Stephen Paul Foster, @Known Fact

    “Instead of another show about racism, Megan Markle could play a young Kamala Harris doing whatever it takes to succeed in California politics, including Willie Brown.”

    Who would play Willie Brown? Someone considerably less ugly so as to make the sex match with MM believable or at least watchable.

  55. @JohnnyD
    Instead of another show about racism, Megan Markle could play a young Kamala Harris doing whatever it takes to succeed in California politics, including Willie Brown.

    Replies: @Stephen Paul Foster, @Stephen Paul Foster, @Known Fact

    “Instead of another show about racism, Megan Markle could play a young Kamala Harris doing whatever it takes to succeed in California politics, including Willie Brown.”

    Who would play Willie Brown? Someone considerably less ugly so as to make the sex match with MM believable or at least watchable.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Stephen Paul Foster

    Danny Glover would be the safe choice to do Willie Brown, but Tyler Perry might be the boffo long-shot to pull it off in style

    , @MEH 0910
    @Stephen Paul Foster


    Who would play Willie Brown?
     
    Wallace Shawn in blackface?

    Replies: @Morton's toes

  56. @Ron Unz
    Well, I'm somewhat skeptical of these sorts of "conspiracy theories" regarding secret plots by successors of Rhodes to enhance the worldwide power of the British Empire. After all, since the plotters were mostly some of the top public figures in the British Empire, what else would anyone expect them to be doing? It's like a "secret plot" by the top Google executives to establish Google's supremacy among Internet companies.

    But I've been doing quite a lot of history reading in recent months, and have discovered some odd items regarding one of the names mentioned.

    Until earlier this year, I'd probably never heard of Leo Amery, but he was actually a pretty prominent political figure of that era, one of Churchill's closest lifelong friends and eventually an important member of the British Cabinet. He was also secretly Jewish, and according to some accounts, was the individual who actually drafted the Balfour Declaration calling for the establishment of the State of Israel, which according to many historians played a crucial role in bringing America into the World War I on the British side.

    But oddly enough, during World War II Amery's eldest son John became a great supporter of Adolf Hitler, defected to Nazi Germany, and was a leading wartime propaganda broadcaster for the Third Reich, being afterward hanged as a traitor by the British.

    Offhand, these strange family twists seem far more shocking than claims that there was a secret plot by the leaders of the British Empire to enhance the power of the British Empire. And although they seem pretty solidly documented, they never made it into any of my standard history books, so I'd never heard a word about it. Maybe some "conspiracy expert" can say whether the LaRouchies or some other groups covered it.

    Replies: @Jake, @kaganovitch, @Jane Plain, @Anon, @Rob McX, @Anonymous

    I have never heard of either Amery, that I recall – perhaps I could have in reference to The Balfour Declaration. But then again, I am much less well read than you.

    That family tale does make perfect sense to me, however. Was Leo Amery ‘secretly Jewish’ in that few knew of his ethnic heritage, or did he practice Rabbinic Judaism in secret? Very, very few of the Jews who entered the Church of England, or one of its offshoots in the Anglican Communion, did so sincerely in religious terms. They became Anglicans in religious membership for economic, political, educational, and cultural motives. Their numbers, going back to the 18th century, were quite large. Whatever murmuring there was among the various degrees of Brit WASP Elites about ethnic Jews joining the club via marriage and non-religious conversion, the new money added to Brit WASP families and institutions was the deciding factor.

    Yes, WASP Elites are, and always have been, every bit as money-hungry and money-loving as Jews. Yes, back to at least archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell, the WASP Elites have been tied up with Jewish financiers. Yes, America’s secular philoSemitism, which grew naturally and inevitably from Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, meant that anything like the Balfour Declaration would have whetted the appetites of hordes of Americans to enter WW1, on the side of Brit WASPs who were on the side of Jews.

    What is really interesting is that John Amery became a Nazi. Did he at some point in life ask himself what it meant that the international language of Jews, Yiddish, is Germanic? I assume he knew that Angles and Saxons were Germans and that English is a Germanic language (made much more beautiful and filled with exceptions to all rules by the French admixture). Did he also know that by the time of Charlemagne, the word ‘Saxon’ meant both that specific Germanic tribe and all Continental Germans who remained pagan and violently opposed to anything Roman and Catholic? Did he then conclude that in the 20th century, the Nazis, not the Brit WASPs, were the exemplars of manly Germanic – fully Saxon – culture and that that culture was, as Yiddish strongly suggest, one that is best for Jews in Europe who intend to be anti-Christ and anti-Roman?

    Whatever the likely answers for John Amery’s life and his family history, it is a given that any such investigations today are not kosher, to either WASP Elites or Jews.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    @Jake


    Was Leo Amery ‘secretly Jewish’ in that few knew of his ethnic heritage, or did he practice Rabbinic Judaism in secret?...What is really interesting is that John Amery became a Nazi. Did he at some point in life ask himself what it meant that the international language of Jews, Yiddish, is Germanic?
     
    I'm hardly any expert on these issues given that I'd never heard of either Amery until I came across a couple of scattered references a few months ago. Leo Amery's very prominent role was mentioned in one book, and John Amery's treason and execution in another, so at first I wondered whether or not they might have been related.

    My guess is that the elder Amery was somewhat concealing his Jewish ancestry, but certainly never practiced the religion. Or at least that's the impression I recall from the brief mention. As for the younger Amery, I don't have a clue when or why he decided to support Nazi Germany.

    I assume the topic is well-covered by historical specialists or academic articles, but I assume the story was left out of all the basic history books because it was so embarrassing for Britain.
    , @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree
    @Jake

    Highly concentrated treatise:



    What is really interesting is that John Amery became a Nazi. Did he at some point in life ask himself what it meant that the international language of Jews, Yiddish, is Germanic? I assume he knew that Angles and Saxons were Germans and that English is a Germanic language (made much more beautiful and filled with exceptions to all rules by the French admixture). Did he also know that by the time of Charlemagne, the word ‘Saxon’ meant both that specific Germanic tribe and all Continental Germans who remained pagan and violently opposed to anything Roman and Catholic? Did he then conclude that in the 20th century, the Nazis, not the Brit WASPs, were the exemplars of manly Germanic – fully Saxon – culture and that that culture was, as Yiddish strongly suggest, one that is best for Jews in Europe who intend to be anti-Christ and anti-Roman?
     
    , @Brás Cubas
    @Jake

    Did John Amery know about his own Jewish ancestry? Maybe his father hid it from his own son (I'm speculating here). For what it's worth, Leo was genetically only half-Jewish, and his son one-quarter.

    There is a play which apparently deals with this story. It is called 'An English Tragedy', and was written by Ronald Harwood. I haven't read it nor watched it. Here's what the Wikipedia page on Leo Amery says about it:


    The playwright Ronald Harwood, who explores the relationship between Leo and John Amery in his play An English Tragedy (2008), considers it significant to the son's story that the father had apparently concealed his partly-Jewish ancestry.
     
  57. @black sea
    @Rob McX

    As a middle-aged relative of mine commented after having visited the nude beaches in France, "most people look a lot better with their clothes on."

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful

    The vast majority of people are terribly out of shape nowadays. Eating seems to have become a function of mood regulation rather than either a way to sustenance or an art.

  58. @Anonymous
    OK as a substitute first guest it's gotta be WildIrish Rose Mcgowan who is boldly claiming to have been raped by a top dem donor....it's gone viral

    https://mobile.twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/1296990306186014720

    I never saw this tv show she was in with Milano but apparently it has cult status among women.

    So Gorsuch torpedoed Trump over the summer with his nutcase scotus rulings and now out of left field this crazy Mcgowan is torpedoing the dems. She could be a bigger factor than Kanye.

    She has a million followers. iSteve probably has many more stealth followers on twitzer than what is officially showing on his account but not a million.

    This is our celeb driven society...

    MCGOWAN & KANYE ARE MOVING THE NEEDLE.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    I never saw this tv show she was in with Milano but apparently it has cult status among women.

    TV in general has cult status among women. That’s at least half the reason we’re in the mess we’re in.

  59. Who would play Willie Brown?

    Eddie Murphy.

  60. @Jake
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The US has been leading the Anglo-Zionist Empire since the Versailles Treaty.

    The WASP Empire has expanded since the days when people think the British Empire began to retreat. Royalty means nothing to it or about it. The Glorious Revolution meant that the British Monarch would be neutered and muzzled, and owned by financiers. Anti-monarchical American WASPs simply became predominant, just as had Anglo-Saxon Puritans, they of the Judaizing heresies that defined subsequent Modern English culture

    So why did Rhoades include Germans? Saxons. Martin Luther, for example, was Saxon. Saxony was always allied with/part of Prussia - modern unified Germany is and always has been at the behest of Prussia/Saxony.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Much of your knowledge is accurate but virtually all of it is obsolete.

  61. @JohnnyD
    Instead of another show about racism, Megan Markle could play a young Kamala Harris doing whatever it takes to succeed in California politics, including Willie Brown.

    Replies: @Stephen Paul Foster, @Stephen Paul Foster, @Known Fact

    I had Rashida Jones penciled in to play Kamala, but Megan might do nicely too

  62. @Stephen Paul Foster
    @JohnnyD

    "Instead of another show about racism, Megan Markle could play a young Kamala Harris doing whatever it takes to succeed in California politics, including Willie Brown."

    Who would play Willie Brown? Someone considerably less ugly so as to make the sex match with MM believable or at least watchable.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @MEH 0910

    Danny Glover would be the safe choice to do Willie Brown, but Tyler Perry might be the boffo long-shot to pull it off in style

  63. @ATBOTL
    Cecil Rhodes was a tool of Jewish bankers as was the British Empire.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anon, @flyingtiger

    Right. The senior British partners just didn’t know it at the time.

  64. @Ron Unz
    Well, I'm somewhat skeptical of these sorts of "conspiracy theories" regarding secret plots by successors of Rhodes to enhance the worldwide power of the British Empire. After all, since the plotters were mostly some of the top public figures in the British Empire, what else would anyone expect them to be doing? It's like a "secret plot" by the top Google executives to establish Google's supremacy among Internet companies.

    But I've been doing quite a lot of history reading in recent months, and have discovered some odd items regarding one of the names mentioned.

    Until earlier this year, I'd probably never heard of Leo Amery, but he was actually a pretty prominent political figure of that era, one of Churchill's closest lifelong friends and eventually an important member of the British Cabinet. He was also secretly Jewish, and according to some accounts, was the individual who actually drafted the Balfour Declaration calling for the establishment of the State of Israel, which according to many historians played a crucial role in bringing America into the World War I on the British side.

    But oddly enough, during World War II Amery's eldest son John became a great supporter of Adolf Hitler, defected to Nazi Germany, and was a leading wartime propaganda broadcaster for the Third Reich, being afterward hanged as a traitor by the British.

    Offhand, these strange family twists seem far more shocking than claims that there was a secret plot by the leaders of the British Empire to enhance the power of the British Empire. And although they seem pretty solidly documented, they never made it into any of my standard history books, so I'd never heard a word about it. Maybe some "conspiracy expert" can say whether the LaRouchies or some other groups covered it.

    Replies: @Jake, @kaganovitch, @Jane Plain, @Anon, @Rob McX, @Anonymous

    Offhand, these strange family twists seem far more shocking than claims that there was a secret plot by the leaders of the British Empire to enhance the power of the British Empire. And although they seem pretty solidly documented, they never made it into any of my standard history books, so I’d never heard a word about it.

    I’m not sure why John Amery’s treason would be expected to make it into general history textbooks. He was a very minor figure in the scheme of things. It’s not entirely clear that he himself knew of his Jewish ancestry, which consisted of one Jewish grandparent, (his paternal grandmother) whose own parents had already converted to Anglicanism.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    @kaganovitch


    I’m not sure why John Amery’s treason would be expected to make it into general history textbooks. He was a very minor figure in the scheme of things.
     
    Well, let's entirely leave out the Jewish angle, and the claims that his father may have been the key figure behind the Balfour Declaration...

    As I pointed out, Leo Amery was a top British Cabinet minister during WWII and one of Churchill's closest friends. But his eldest son admired Adolf Hitler, defected to Nazi Germany, and became a top Third Reich wartime propagandist, afterwards being executed for treason. Isn't that an interesting historical tidbit worth mentioning? After all, the history books do always mention the similar execution of young Amery's Nazi broadcasting colleague "Lord Haw-Haw," who was otherwise a totally obscure individual.

    Suppose the son of a top American official had become a leading propagandist for Hanoi's Communist government during the Vietnam War. Wouldn't our journalists and historians have noted that fact, especially if he later ran for President?

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-when-tokyo-rose-ran-for-president/

    Ha, ha...well, then again, perhaps not. But if he'd been hanged for treason, I think it might have been mentioned somewhere...

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  65. @notsaying
    @Jane Plain

    If their goal was freedom and independence they have much less under their present circumstances in which they have tremendous pressure to make money and reveal their private selves.

    Apparently they want to establish themselves in a parallel universe here in which they play the same role to the American people as they should be playing to the British people at home in the UK. But of course there is no such role available to them here; we have no royal family. I saw someone quoted yesterday claiming that by participating in our politics through get out the vote efforts they are breaking the rules of the UK monarchy and that makes sense to me.

    I think they should go back before the break is too hard to heal. If they are determined to stay, they should give up their titles and Harry should give up his claim to the throne. I don't think they will do this though. I think they will stick to the incomplete and unmanageable split.

    Replies: @Jane Plain, @Hibernian

    Their goal was NOT freedom & independence. It was Hollywood superstardom.

    I think they should go back before the break is too hard to heal.

    Stop it. It’s over. First of all Meghan doesn’t have anything to “go back” to – her life is one of ceaseless and thoughtless momentum. She would be ignored and loathed if they “went back” to Britain. It’s not going to happen, even if she wanted to, which she doesn’t. She was never interested in being a British royal.

    Harry is different. Blood is thicker than water, and when the marriage breaks up, he’ll be up a tree. He could go back, but will he? I don’t care to speculate what will happen then. Anything. My suspicion is he’ll run around the world on Daddy’s dime and get blown up in a mine field, or die in a helicopter crash, gibbering about “mental health.”

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    @Jane Plain

    Blood is indeed thicker than water, but nothing is thicker than Harry. (Couldn't resist, and anyway its true).

    But Harry is also not Charles' son - and knows it. That is the ultimate reason why he wanted out. Take a look at the picture above of him with his (half-) brother William and tell me with a straight face that they are the offspring of the same father and mother.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Jane Plain, @MEH 0910

  66. @Ron Unz
    Well, I'm somewhat skeptical of these sorts of "conspiracy theories" regarding secret plots by successors of Rhodes to enhance the worldwide power of the British Empire. After all, since the plotters were mostly some of the top public figures in the British Empire, what else would anyone expect them to be doing? It's like a "secret plot" by the top Google executives to establish Google's supremacy among Internet companies.

    But I've been doing quite a lot of history reading in recent months, and have discovered some odd items regarding one of the names mentioned.

    Until earlier this year, I'd probably never heard of Leo Amery, but he was actually a pretty prominent political figure of that era, one of Churchill's closest lifelong friends and eventually an important member of the British Cabinet. He was also secretly Jewish, and according to some accounts, was the individual who actually drafted the Balfour Declaration calling for the establishment of the State of Israel, which according to many historians played a crucial role in bringing America into the World War I on the British side.

    But oddly enough, during World War II Amery's eldest son John became a great supporter of Adolf Hitler, defected to Nazi Germany, and was a leading wartime propaganda broadcaster for the Third Reich, being afterward hanged as a traitor by the British.

    Offhand, these strange family twists seem far more shocking than claims that there was a secret plot by the leaders of the British Empire to enhance the power of the British Empire. And although they seem pretty solidly documented, they never made it into any of my standard history books, so I'd never heard a word about it. Maybe some "conspiracy expert" can say whether the LaRouchies or some other groups covered it.

    Replies: @Jake, @kaganovitch, @Jane Plain, @Anon, @Rob McX, @Anonymous

    I wonder how much of these networks were also bisexual, arising from the public school experience.

  67. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, a Black woman beat the holy shit out of Alec Baldwin's creepy daughter, relieved her of her belongings, and another secret Trump voter is born...

    https://pagesix.com/2020/08/22/ireland-baldwin-attacked-robbed-by-desperate-woman-on-drugs/?_ga=2.175753186.1147942402.1598231735-1107305132.1598231735

    Replies: @Bubba, @ThreeCranes, @Anonymous, @GeneralRipper, @IHTG, @JimDandy

    Pretty funny to think of Alec Baldwin’s private reaction to this vs. his public persona as a firebrand lefty.

  68. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1296937228401287168

    Hillary Clinton "gifted" a prestigious job in the Obama State Department to the nephew of accused pedophile and sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell, according to OK! Magazine - and whose employment was confirmed by the Daily Beast.

    Alexander Djerassi, the son of Maxwell's sister Isabel, went from working on Hillary Clinton's 2008 Presidential campaign, to a "very powerful and prestigious position" within the state department, working under Clinton in charge of the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs. He returned to Clinton's 2016 campaign, according to the Beast.

    "Secretary Clinton gave Alex a job in one of the most sensitive areas of Obama’s executive apparatus," an anonymous source told OK!. "The fact Alex Djerassi, fresh out of college, was put in charge of the State Department’s Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, covering the Middle East, was an interesting move."

    "He worked directly on the Arab Spring, and Hillary sent Alex as the US representative to the expatriate rebel groups Friends of Libya and Friends of the Syrian People," the source continued, adding that Djerassi was given "special treatment."

    A State Department spokesperson confirmed Djerassi's employment with The Daily Beast
     

    From September 2007 to June 2008, Djerassi was a policy associate for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

     


    The Yale and Princeton alum—the son of Maxwell’s sister Isabel—apparently returned for Clinton’s 2016 presidential run.

     

    https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1297135782403153920

    https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/clinton%20neck_0.jpg

    https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1294899079407734784

    Bill Clinton stayed in Jeffrey Epstein 's villa private Caribbean island of Little Saint James after his presidency ended, Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts claims.

     


    Clinton ‘strolled into the darkness’ with two girls while staying on pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s private Caribbean island

     


    Epstein told her that Clinton 'owes me a favor', which is why he was on the Caribbean island.

     


    Roberts said orgies 'were a constant thing' on the private island.

     


    Hillary’s absence from the night made it easy for his [Bill Clinton's] apparent provocative cheeky side to come out

     


    In addition to Clinton, Roberts said she also recalled seeing Al Gore, Naomi Campbell, and Heidi Klum on Epstein's private jet named 'Lolita Express.'

     

    Summary:

    -Hillary Clinton "gifted" a powerful a "very powerful" position at the State Department to Ghislaine Maxwell's nephew Alexander Djerassi. Djerassi worked directly under Hillary. Despite being fresh out of college, Djerassi was placed in charge of the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, covering the Middle East. He was sent as a US representative to communicate with rebel groups, in Libya and Syria.

    -Bill Clinton got a back massage from an Epstein victim during a trip to Africa.

    -According to a court document, Bill Clinton stayed in a private villa on Epstein's orgy island. While there, he was accompanied by "2 young girls." They "strolled into the darkness" together. Hillary was not with him.

    -Epstein claimed that Clinton "owes me a favor."

    - Al Gore, Naomi Campbell, and Heidi Klum were spotted on Epstein's "Lolita Express" jet.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @JohnnyWalker123, @El Dato, @Gordo, @Anon

    Maria Farmer, another Epstein victim, said in her interview with Whitney Webb that Bill Clinton visited Epstein’s apartment in NYC while he was sitting president. She said Ghislaine Maxwell went nuts one day tidying up the apartment saying “The President is coming! The President is coming!”

  69. @ATBOTL
    Cecil Rhodes was a tool of Jewish bankers as was the British Empire.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anon, @flyingtiger

    I thought Cecil Rhodes was a crypto Jew. I could be wrong.

  70. Putting those 2 E grades from Eton to good use.

  71. @Rob McX
    @Not Only Wrathful


    In Germany, full nudity in areas of public swimming pools, admittedly reserved for adults, is utterly normal.
     
    There was a funny incident recently in Berlin where a wild boar stole a nudist's bag containing his laptop and ran off with it.


    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/321ebebbc74a396d10f7c7c1a775f515858beeae/0_231_2048_1228/master/2048.jpg?width=605&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=dc446214b54bb9217f7fc48728638023

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/fd38ed4c17d0d1a63788be70365a34a022093a04/0_39_1639_983/master/1639.jpg?width=605&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=3e16d0a9b502441ae1f7070ac00a9991

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @black sea, @Anonymous

    Hog on hog crime

  72. Anon[386] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz
    Well, I'm somewhat skeptical of these sorts of "conspiracy theories" regarding secret plots by successors of Rhodes to enhance the worldwide power of the British Empire. After all, since the plotters were mostly some of the top public figures in the British Empire, what else would anyone expect them to be doing? It's like a "secret plot" by the top Google executives to establish Google's supremacy among Internet companies.

    But I've been doing quite a lot of history reading in recent months, and have discovered some odd items regarding one of the names mentioned.

    Until earlier this year, I'd probably never heard of Leo Amery, but he was actually a pretty prominent political figure of that era, one of Churchill's closest lifelong friends and eventually an important member of the British Cabinet. He was also secretly Jewish, and according to some accounts, was the individual who actually drafted the Balfour Declaration calling for the establishment of the State of Israel, which according to many historians played a crucial role in bringing America into the World War I on the British side.

    But oddly enough, during World War II Amery's eldest son John became a great supporter of Adolf Hitler, defected to Nazi Germany, and was a leading wartime propaganda broadcaster for the Third Reich, being afterward hanged as a traitor by the British.

    Offhand, these strange family twists seem far more shocking than claims that there was a secret plot by the leaders of the British Empire to enhance the power of the British Empire. And although they seem pretty solidly documented, they never made it into any of my standard history books, so I'd never heard a word about it. Maybe some "conspiracy expert" can say whether the LaRouchies or some other groups covered it.

    Replies: @Jake, @kaganovitch, @Jane Plain, @Anon, @Rob McX, @Anonymous

    The memoirs of Henry Wickham Steed, editor of The Times and government factotum, are interesting. He pats himself on the back about his central role in bringing down the Habsburg empire. He certainly acted as spy, Deep State diplomatist, NGO organizer, Versailles negotiator and probable Freemason. Never had an actual government position. When he speaks about his friend Col Mandell House, a close reading is advisable, House was first and foremost a Freemason.

    Googling the names he tosses out is great fun. For example, fellow obscure journalist William Lavino crops up as Rothschild client. https://www.rothschildarchive.org/business/rothschild_clients/

    Wickham Steed had the chutzpah to rendezvous as private citizen with the Black Pope and ask him whether the Jesuits were on the side of people’s liberation or the monarchy. Steed interpreted the Jesuit General‘s response as lack of depth and vision.

    His meetings and opinion on the Young Turks I found interesting, reminiscent of “but he’s our son of a bitch.”

    Another interesting read are George Buchanan’s memoirs. (the British Ambassador to the Tsar’s court.)

  73. @kaganovitch
    @Ron Unz

    Offhand, these strange family twists seem far more shocking than claims that there was a secret plot by the leaders of the British Empire to enhance the power of the British Empire. And although they seem pretty solidly documented, they never made it into any of my standard history books, so I’d never heard a word about it.

    I'm not sure why John Amery's treason would be expected to make it into general history textbooks. He was a very minor figure in the scheme of things. It's not entirely clear that he himself knew of his Jewish ancestry, which consisted of one Jewish grandparent, (his paternal grandmother) whose own parents had already converted to Anglicanism.

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    I’m not sure why John Amery’s treason would be expected to make it into general history textbooks. He was a very minor figure in the scheme of things.

    Well, let’s entirely leave out the Jewish angle, and the claims that his father may have been the key figure behind the Balfour Declaration…

    As I pointed out, Leo Amery was a top British Cabinet minister during WWII and one of Churchill’s closest friends. But his eldest son admired Adolf Hitler, defected to Nazi Germany, and became a top Third Reich wartime propagandist, afterwards being executed for treason. Isn’t that an interesting historical tidbit worth mentioning? After all, the history books do always mention the similar execution of young Amery’s Nazi broadcasting colleague “Lord Haw-Haw,” who was otherwise a totally obscure individual.

    Suppose the son of a top American official had become a leading propagandist for Hanoi’s Communist government during the Vietnam War. Wouldn’t our journalists and historians have noted that fact, especially if he later ran for President?

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-when-tokyo-rose-ran-for-president/

    Ha, ha…well, then again, perhaps not. But if he’d been hanged for treason, I think it might have been mentioned somewhere…

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Ron Unz

    As I pointed out, Leo Amery was a top British Cabinet minister during WWII and one of Churchill’s closest friends. But his eldest son admired Adolf Hitler, defected to Nazi Germany, and became a top Third Reich wartime propagandist, afterwards being executed for treason. Isn’t that an interesting historical tidbit worth mentioning? After all, the history books do always mention the similar execution of young Amery’s Nazi broadcasting colleague “Lord Haw-Haw,” who was otherwise a totally obscure individual.

    While you make a good point, I'm not sure the comparison with Lord Haw -Haw is very instructive. L.H.H. broadcasted for 6 years, was known to millions of Britons and Americans, in short was very high profile. Amery on the other hand was only an occasional, not a regular broadcaster and was pretty low profile, i. e. not really known to the public. There may have been an element of pity for his family in the contemporary coverage of Amery's trial. From what I can see from Lexis, google, proquest etc., the newspapers don't seem to have made quite as much of a meal of it, as I would have expected.

    Fwiw Ronald Harwood, a prominent British playwright, (Jewish, born Horowitz.) wrote a play about the Amery affair around 10 years ago, so it's not really being embargoed. From what I could tell though from reviews, it has the usual anti British slant (If only Amery pere hadn't hidden his Jewish heritage, his psychopath son John wouldn't have become a fascist Nazi thus expressing John Bull's disdain for the "other", 'wogs begin at Calais' blah blah blah.. ignoring the fact that the British generally, and for that matter Amery the elder in particular, led the fight against fascism while the commies were in bed with them).

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  74. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    “The cops told me this is happening frequently because people are desperate for money right now due to Coronavirus and people being out of work,” she continued. “There is a lot of theft and muggings going down. Posting this to remind everyone to be really careful and watch your surroundings. These are really difficult times and we need to look out for one another.”
     
    Or, you know, she's going to vote Biden because he'll end these difficult Trump times, help out those desperate people and fix that broken system that's been causing so many lately to shoplift loaves of bread, etc.

    What basis is there for thinking that BLM menacing gentrifiers and blocking roads creates secret Trump voters rather than liberals doubling-down when personally confronted by their pet issues?

    Do even Trump voters think wokeism will slow down if he wins again?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Charlotte

    Do even Trump voters think wokeism will slow down if he wins again?

    No, but the resultant rage will skew its aim.

  75. @Ron Unz
    Well, I'm somewhat skeptical of these sorts of "conspiracy theories" regarding secret plots by successors of Rhodes to enhance the worldwide power of the British Empire. After all, since the plotters were mostly some of the top public figures in the British Empire, what else would anyone expect them to be doing? It's like a "secret plot" by the top Google executives to establish Google's supremacy among Internet companies.

    But I've been doing quite a lot of history reading in recent months, and have discovered some odd items regarding one of the names mentioned.

    Until earlier this year, I'd probably never heard of Leo Amery, but he was actually a pretty prominent political figure of that era, one of Churchill's closest lifelong friends and eventually an important member of the British Cabinet. He was also secretly Jewish, and according to some accounts, was the individual who actually drafted the Balfour Declaration calling for the establishment of the State of Israel, which according to many historians played a crucial role in bringing America into the World War I on the British side.

    But oddly enough, during World War II Amery's eldest son John became a great supporter of Adolf Hitler, defected to Nazi Germany, and was a leading wartime propaganda broadcaster for the Third Reich, being afterward hanged as a traitor by the British.

    Offhand, these strange family twists seem far more shocking than claims that there was a secret plot by the leaders of the British Empire to enhance the power of the British Empire. And although they seem pretty solidly documented, they never made it into any of my standard history books, so I'd never heard a word about it. Maybe some "conspiracy expert" can say whether the LaRouchies or some other groups covered it.

    Replies: @Jake, @kaganovitch, @Jane Plain, @Anon, @Rob McX, @Anonymous

    It seems unlikely that that Leo Amery’s Jewish ancestry was a secret when he was alive. His mother’s identity would have been well known. Her brother was the linguist Gottlieb Leitner, who worked as an interpreter and administrator for the British in the Crimea and India.

    I don’t think the execution of John Amery was ever deliberately ignored in England. I’ve come across lots of references to it in many places down through the years, including the memoirs of the executioner Albert Pierrepoint. I remember John Amery’s brother Julian, who was a member of parliament, talking about it in a British magazine interview in the 1990s. The case didn’t get as much publicity as the execution of William “Haw-Haw” Joyce, because Joyce’s broadcasts became very famous in England during the war.

  76. Meanwhile, no one expects the Spanish Libertarians.

  77. @Jake
    @Ron Unz

    I have never heard of either Amery, that I recall - perhaps I could have in reference to The Balfour Declaration. But then again, I am much less well read than you.

    That family tale does make perfect sense to me, however. Was Leo Amery 'secretly Jewish' in that few knew of his ethnic heritage, or did he practice Rabbinic Judaism in secret? Very, very few of the Jews who entered the Church of England, or one of its offshoots in the Anglican Communion, did so sincerely in religious terms. They became Anglicans in religious membership for economic, political, educational, and cultural motives. Their numbers, going back to the 18th century, were quite large. Whatever murmuring there was among the various degrees of Brit WASP Elites about ethnic Jews joining the club via marriage and non-religious conversion, the new money added to Brit WASP families and institutions was the deciding factor.

    Yes, WASP Elites are, and always have been, every bit as money-hungry and money-loving as Jews. Yes, back to at least archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell, the WASP Elites have been tied up with Jewish financiers. Yes, America's secular philoSemitism, which grew naturally and inevitably from Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, meant that anything like the Balfour Declaration would have whetted the appetites of hordes of Americans to enter WW1, on the side of Brit WASPs who were on the side of Jews.

    What is really interesting is that John Amery became a Nazi. Did he at some point in life ask himself what it meant that the international language of Jews, Yiddish, is Germanic? I assume he knew that Angles and Saxons were Germans and that English is a Germanic language (made much more beautiful and filled with exceptions to all rules by the French admixture). Did he also know that by the time of Charlemagne, the word 'Saxon' meant both that specific Germanic tribe and all Continental Germans who remained pagan and violently opposed to anything Roman and Catholic? Did he then conclude that in the 20th century, the Nazis, not the Brit WASPs, were the exemplars of manly Germanic - fully Saxon - culture and that that culture was, as Yiddish strongly suggest, one that is best for Jews in Europe who intend to be anti-Christ and anti-Roman?

    Whatever the likely answers for John Amery's life and his family history, it is a given that any such investigations today are not kosher, to either WASP Elites or Jews.

    Replies: @Ron Unz, @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree, @Brás Cubas

    Was Leo Amery ‘secretly Jewish’ in that few knew of his ethnic heritage, or did he practice Rabbinic Judaism in secret?…What is really interesting is that John Amery became a Nazi. Did he at some point in life ask himself what it meant that the international language of Jews, Yiddish, is Germanic?

    I’m hardly any expert on these issues given that I’d never heard of either Amery until I came across a couple of scattered references a few months ago. Leo Amery’s very prominent role was mentioned in one book, and John Amery’s treason and execution in another, so at first I wondered whether or not they might have been related.

    My guess is that the elder Amery was somewhat concealing his Jewish ancestry, but certainly never practiced the religion. Or at least that’s the impression I recall from the brief mention. As for the younger Amery, I don’t have a clue when or why he decided to support Nazi Germany.

    I assume the topic is well-covered by historical specialists or academic articles, but I assume the story was left out of all the basic history books because it was so embarrassing for Britain.

  78. @Jane Plain
    @notsaying

    Their goal was NOT freedom & independence. It was Hollywood superstardom.


    I think they should go back before the break is too hard to heal.
     
    Stop it. It's over. First of all Meghan doesn't have anything to "go back" to - her life is one of ceaseless and thoughtless momentum. She would be ignored and loathed if they "went back" to Britain. It's not going to happen, even if she wanted to, which she doesn't. She was never interested in being a British royal.

    Harry is different. Blood is thicker than water, and when the marriage breaks up, he'll be up a tree. He could go back, but will he? I don't care to speculate what will happen then. Anything. My suspicion is he'll run around the world on Daddy's dime and get blown up in a mine field, or die in a helicopter crash, gibbering about "mental health."

    Replies: @Old Palo Altan

    Blood is indeed thicker than water, but nothing is thicker than Harry. (Couldn’t resist, and anyway its true).

    But Harry is also not Charles’ son – and knows it. That is the ultimate reason why he wanted out. Take a look at the picture above of him with his (half-) brother William and tell me with a straight face that they are the offspring of the same father and mother.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Old Palo Altan

    My mother and father, though both Irish, were of extremely diffferent phenotypes. I’m the only one of my siblings to physically resemble my father. We’ve all had DNA testing (Not to determine paternity) and we’re all full siblings.

    , @Jane Plain
    @Old Palo Altan

    He looks exactly like Charles. William resembles the Spencers. This happens all the time.

    , @MEH 0910
    @Old Palo Altan

    https://www.instyle.com/news/prince-harry-grandfather-prince-philip-resemblance-magazine-cover


    While Prince William is pretty much Princess Diana’s twin, redhead Prince Harry’s resemblance to his royal relatives is a little less obvious — or so we thought …

    Over the weekend, Getty Images royal photographer Chris Jackson unearthed a photo posted to the cover of a 1957 issue of Paris Match magazine in which Harry’s paternal grandfather, Prince Philip, is photographed in his white military uniform and cap. Roughly 36 years old at the time, the Duke of Edinburgh bears a striking resemblance to his future grandson, 34.
     
    https://twitter.com/ChrisJack_Getty/status/1053789393268498433

    Replies: @Old Palo Altan

  79. @Ron Unz
    @kaganovitch


    I’m not sure why John Amery’s treason would be expected to make it into general history textbooks. He was a very minor figure in the scheme of things.
     
    Well, let's entirely leave out the Jewish angle, and the claims that his father may have been the key figure behind the Balfour Declaration...

    As I pointed out, Leo Amery was a top British Cabinet minister during WWII and one of Churchill's closest friends. But his eldest son admired Adolf Hitler, defected to Nazi Germany, and became a top Third Reich wartime propagandist, afterwards being executed for treason. Isn't that an interesting historical tidbit worth mentioning? After all, the history books do always mention the similar execution of young Amery's Nazi broadcasting colleague "Lord Haw-Haw," who was otherwise a totally obscure individual.

    Suppose the son of a top American official had become a leading propagandist for Hanoi's Communist government during the Vietnam War. Wouldn't our journalists and historians have noted that fact, especially if he later ran for President?

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-when-tokyo-rose-ran-for-president/

    Ha, ha...well, then again, perhaps not. But if he'd been hanged for treason, I think it might have been mentioned somewhere...

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    As I pointed out, Leo Amery was a top British Cabinet minister during WWII and one of Churchill’s closest friends. But his eldest son admired Adolf Hitler, defected to Nazi Germany, and became a top Third Reich wartime propagandist, afterwards being executed for treason. Isn’t that an interesting historical tidbit worth mentioning? After all, the history books do always mention the similar execution of young Amery’s Nazi broadcasting colleague “Lord Haw-Haw,” who was otherwise a totally obscure individual.

    While you make a good point, I’m not sure the comparison with Lord Haw -Haw is very instructive. L.H.H. broadcasted for 6 years, was known to millions of Britons and Americans, in short was very high profile. Amery on the other hand was only an occasional, not a regular broadcaster and was pretty low profile, i. e. not really known to the public. There may have been an element of pity for his family in the contemporary coverage of Amery’s trial. From what I can see from Lexis, google, proquest etc., the newspapers don’t seem to have made quite as much of a meal of it, as I would have expected.

    Fwiw Ronald Harwood, a prominent British playwright, (Jewish, born Horowitz.) wrote a play about the Amery affair around 10 years ago, so it’s not really being embargoed. From what I could tell though from reviews, it has the usual anti British slant (If only Amery pere hadn’t hidden his Jewish heritage, his psychopath son John wouldn’t have become a fascist Nazi thus expressing John Bull’s disdain for the “other”, ‘wogs begin at Calais’ blah blah blah.. ignoring the fact that the British generally, and for that matter Amery the elder in particular, led the fight against fascism while the commies were in bed with them).

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @kaganovitch

    Leo Amery was the second most important anti-appeaser to Churchill in the late 1930s. I could imagine that if Churchill had died in, say, 1938, Amery would have become Prime Minister in May 1940.

  80. anon[174] • Disclaimer says:

    ignoring the fact that the British generally, and for that matter Amery the elder in particular, led the fight against fascism while the commies were in bed with them).

    Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is not quite memory holed but seems to be very downplayed in any of the standard histories of WWII. This still matters because of all the retconning about NaziNaziNazi on the behalf of commies. Yet it was no accident that the US Left was all for peace, peace, peace from the summer of 1939 right up to June, 1941 when a total 180 degree turn happened – because Moscow ordered it to be so.

    Fact: Stalin was the ally of Hitler from 1939 to June, 1941. Fact. Commies don’t like it, but fact. Muh Purity of Socialism, lol.

    Plus Britain stood alone against both the Nazi and Communist regime from the summer of 1940 to December of 1941. Just as Finland stood alone against the Soviets. But with different results.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    @anon


    Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is not quite memory holed but seems to be very downplayed in any of the standard histories of WWII.
     
    Absolute bullshit.
    , @Anonymous
    @anon


    Fact: Stalin was the ally of Hitler from 1939 to June, 1941. Fact. Commies don’t like it, but fact. Muh Purity of Socialism, lol.
     
    Stalin was just being a doctrinaire communist here. Nazis and Communists also worked together against the Social Democrats in Wiemar Germany, so this alliance wasn't out of the blue.

    It's a consequence of orthodox Marxist-Leninist doctrine, which teaches that bourgeois parties/states are a greater danger than fascist ones.
    , @kaganovitch
    @anon

    Yet it was no accident that the US Left was all for peace, peace, peace from the summer of 1939 right up to June, 1941 when a total 180 degree turn happened – because Moscow ordered it to be so.


    The degree to which this was so, is startling. The US left turned on a dime from attacking Roosevelt as a proto-Fascist and the New Deal as a plot against the proletariat, to praising Roosevelt as a bulwark against Fascism, back to denouncing him as a warmonger for aid to Britain during the period of Molotov -Ribbentrop, right back to Roosevelt is not enough of a warmonger after Barbarossa. You have to read the output of commie stalwarts like Trumbo and his ilk to get the full 'We have always been at war with Eastasia' flavor. Allen Ryskind in 'Hollywood Traitors: Blacklisted Screenwriters - Agents of Stalin, Allies of Hitler' has pretty much chapter and verse on this.

  81. @J.Ross
    @For what it's worth

    >the deader communism gets
    Do you not follow news at all?

    Replies: @For what it's worth

    Do you think that World Communism, as an organized conspiracy based in Mother Russia, is a thing?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @For what it's worth

    What if there are American people, in America, with no connection whatsoever to Russia or anyone Russian, who voluntarily explain in their own words that they consider themselves to be Marxists?
    What if there are communist countries which are not and have never been Russia?
    Here I thought you were going for the whole Soviet Union stopped existing thing but you aren't even on that level.

    Replies: @anon, @For what it's worth

  82. @Old Palo Altan
    @Jane Plain

    Blood is indeed thicker than water, but nothing is thicker than Harry. (Couldn't resist, and anyway its true).

    But Harry is also not Charles' son - and knows it. That is the ultimate reason why he wanted out. Take a look at the picture above of him with his (half-) brother William and tell me with a straight face that they are the offspring of the same father and mother.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Jane Plain, @MEH 0910

    My mother and father, though both Irish, were of extremely diffferent phenotypes. I’m the only one of my siblings to physically resemble my father. We’ve all had DNA testing (Not to determine paternity) and we’re all full siblings.

  83. @Jake
    @Ron Unz

    I have never heard of either Amery, that I recall - perhaps I could have in reference to The Balfour Declaration. But then again, I am much less well read than you.

    That family tale does make perfect sense to me, however. Was Leo Amery 'secretly Jewish' in that few knew of his ethnic heritage, or did he practice Rabbinic Judaism in secret? Very, very few of the Jews who entered the Church of England, or one of its offshoots in the Anglican Communion, did so sincerely in religious terms. They became Anglicans in religious membership for economic, political, educational, and cultural motives. Their numbers, going back to the 18th century, were quite large. Whatever murmuring there was among the various degrees of Brit WASP Elites about ethnic Jews joining the club via marriage and non-religious conversion, the new money added to Brit WASP families and institutions was the deciding factor.

    Yes, WASP Elites are, and always have been, every bit as money-hungry and money-loving as Jews. Yes, back to at least archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell, the WASP Elites have been tied up with Jewish financiers. Yes, America's secular philoSemitism, which grew naturally and inevitably from Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, meant that anything like the Balfour Declaration would have whetted the appetites of hordes of Americans to enter WW1, on the side of Brit WASPs who were on the side of Jews.

    What is really interesting is that John Amery became a Nazi. Did he at some point in life ask himself what it meant that the international language of Jews, Yiddish, is Germanic? I assume he knew that Angles and Saxons were Germans and that English is a Germanic language (made much more beautiful and filled with exceptions to all rules by the French admixture). Did he also know that by the time of Charlemagne, the word 'Saxon' meant both that specific Germanic tribe and all Continental Germans who remained pagan and violently opposed to anything Roman and Catholic? Did he then conclude that in the 20th century, the Nazis, not the Brit WASPs, were the exemplars of manly Germanic - fully Saxon - culture and that that culture was, as Yiddish strongly suggest, one that is best for Jews in Europe who intend to be anti-Christ and anti-Roman?

    Whatever the likely answers for John Amery's life and his family history, it is a given that any such investigations today are not kosher, to either WASP Elites or Jews.

    Replies: @Ron Unz, @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree, @Brás Cubas

    Highly concentrated treatise:

    What is really interesting is that John Amery became a Nazi. Did he at some point in life ask himself what it meant that the international language of Jews, Yiddish, is Germanic? I assume he knew that Angles and Saxons were Germans and that English is a Germanic language (made much more beautiful and filled with exceptions to all rules by the French admixture). Did he also know that by the time of Charlemagne, the word ‘Saxon’ meant both that specific Germanic tribe and all Continental Germans who remained pagan and violently opposed to anything Roman and Catholic? Did he then conclude that in the 20th century, the Nazis, not the Brit WASPs, were the exemplars of manly Germanic – fully Saxon – culture and that that culture was, as Yiddish strongly suggest, one that is best for Jews in Europe who intend to be anti-Christ and anti-Roman?

  84. @Old Palo Altan
    @Jane Plain

    Blood is indeed thicker than water, but nothing is thicker than Harry. (Couldn't resist, and anyway its true).

    But Harry is also not Charles' son - and knows it. That is the ultimate reason why he wanted out. Take a look at the picture above of him with his (half-) brother William and tell me with a straight face that they are the offspring of the same father and mother.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Jane Plain, @MEH 0910

    He looks exactly like Charles. William resembles the Spencers. This happens all the time.

  85. @anon
    ignoring the fact that the British generally, and for that matter Amery the elder in particular, led the fight against fascism while the commies were in bed with them).

    Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is not quite memory holed but seems to be very downplayed in any of the standard histories of WWII. This still matters because of all the retconning about NaziNaziNazi on the behalf of commies. Yet it was no accident that the US Left was all for peace, peace, peace from the summer of 1939 right up to June, 1941 when a total 180 degree turn happened - because Moscow ordered it to be so.

    Fact: Stalin was the ally of Hitler from 1939 to June, 1941. Fact. Commies don't like it, but fact. Muh Purity of Socialism, lol.

    Plus Britain stood alone against both the Nazi and Communist regime from the summer of 1940 to December of 1941. Just as Finland stood alone against the Soviets. But with different results.

    Replies: @Jane Plain, @Anonymous, @kaganovitch

    Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is not quite memory holed but seems to be very downplayed in any of the standard histories of WWII.

    Absolute bullshit.

  86. @Stephen Paul Foster
    @JohnnyD

    "Instead of another show about racism, Megan Markle could play a young Kamala Harris doing whatever it takes to succeed in California politics, including Willie Brown."

    Who would play Willie Brown? Someone considerably less ugly so as to make the sex match with MM believable or at least watchable.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @MEH 0910

    Who would play Willie Brown?

    Wallace Shawn in blackface?

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
    @MEH 0910

    MEH 9010: does the "E" signify EVIL?

    Isn't Willie tall? When I ask google how tall is Willie Brown they only give the more important guy with that name who is in the pro football HOF. Shawn is listed at 5'2".

    Willie Brown super bowl pick 6:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjKwZOFoG5M

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  87. @MEH 0910
    @Stephen Paul Foster


    Who would play Willie Brown?
     
    Wallace Shawn in blackface?

    Replies: @Morton's toes

    MEH 9010: does the “E” signify EVIL?

    Isn’t Willie tall? When I ask google how tall is Willie Brown they only give the more important guy with that name who is in the pro football HOF. Shawn is listed at 5’2″.

    Willie Brown super bowl pick 6:

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Morton's toes

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d1/Jack_Reacher_poster.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Reacher_(film)#Casting


    In June 2011, Tom Cruise was in talks for playing the role of Jack Reacher.[10] The following month, Cruise closed a deal with the studios and signed on for the part.[11] Some fans of the novel series became vocal over the casting of Cruise due to the actor's height not matching the description of Reacher in the novels.[12][13] Explaining the casting decision, author Lee Child said that it would be impossible to find a suitable actor to play the giant Reacher and to recreate the feel of the book onscreen, and that Cruise had the talent to make an effective Reacher.[14] Child also said, "Reacher's size in the books is a metaphor for an unstoppable force, which Cruise portrays in his own way."[11] Of Cruise's relatively small stature, Child said, "With another actor you might get 100% of the height but only 90% of Reacher. With Tom, you'll get 100% of Reacher with 90% of the height."[15]

    ******
    In a 2018 interview, two years after the 2016 release of the sequel, Child agreed that the readers were correct in their criticism, stating:

    I really enjoyed working with Cruise. He's a really, really nice guy. We had a lot of fun. But ultimately the readers are right. The size of Reacher is really, really important and it's a big component of who he is...So what I've decided to do is – there won't be any more movies with Tom Cruise. Instead we're going to take it to Netflix or something like that. Long-form streaming television, with a completely new actor. We're rebooting and starting over and we're going to try and find the perfect guy.[22]
     

     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Reacher
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Reacher_(book_series)
  88. @Old Palo Altan
    @Jane Plain

    Blood is indeed thicker than water, but nothing is thicker than Harry. (Couldn't resist, and anyway its true).

    But Harry is also not Charles' son - and knows it. That is the ultimate reason why he wanted out. Take a look at the picture above of him with his (half-) brother William and tell me with a straight face that they are the offspring of the same father and mother.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Jane Plain, @MEH 0910

    https://www.instyle.com/news/prince-harry-grandfather-prince-philip-resemblance-magazine-cover

    While Prince William is pretty much Princess Diana’s twin, redhead Prince Harry’s resemblance to his royal relatives is a little less obvious — or so we thought …

    Over the weekend, Getty Images royal photographer Chris Jackson unearthed a photo posted to the cover of a 1957 issue of Paris Match magazine in which Harry’s paternal grandfather, Prince Philip, is photographed in his white military uniform and cap. Roughly 36 years old at the time, the Duke of Edinburgh bears a striking resemblance to his future grandson, 34.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    @MEH 0910

    That photo was publicised in 2016 and it has not put an end to the speculation.
    I base my opinion, not on photos or rumour or interviews, but on the reaction of people I know who are very close to the Royal Family (so much so that Prince Philip himself attended the funeral of the family patriarch) when the subject is brought up.

    Their gaze turns downward and they say nothing. The message is clear: don't ask, because we daren't tell.

    Only a DNA test will convince me otherwise.

  89. @Morton's toes
    @MEH 0910

    MEH 9010: does the "E" signify EVIL?

    Isn't Willie tall? When I ask google how tall is Willie Brown they only give the more important guy with that name who is in the pro football HOF. Shawn is listed at 5'2".

    Willie Brown super bowl pick 6:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjKwZOFoG5M

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Reacher_(film)#Casting

    In June 2011, Tom Cruise was in talks for playing the role of Jack Reacher.[10] The following month, Cruise closed a deal with the studios and signed on for the part.[11] Some fans of the novel series became vocal over the casting of Cruise due to the actor’s height not matching the description of Reacher in the novels.[12][13] Explaining the casting decision, author Lee Child said that it would be impossible to find a suitable actor to play the giant Reacher and to recreate the feel of the book onscreen, and that Cruise had the talent to make an effective Reacher.[14] Child also said, “Reacher’s size in the books is a metaphor for an unstoppable force, which Cruise portrays in his own way.”[11] Of Cruise’s relatively small stature, Child said, “With another actor you might get 100% of the height but only 90% of Reacher. With Tom, you’ll get 100% of Reacher with 90% of the height.”[15]

    ******
    In a 2018 interview, two years after the 2016 release of the sequel, Child agreed that the readers were correct in their criticism, stating:

    I really enjoyed working with Cruise. He’s a really, really nice guy. We had a lot of fun. But ultimately the readers are right. The size of Reacher is really, really important and it’s a big component of who he is…So what I’ve decided to do is – there won’t be any more movies with Tom Cruise. Instead we’re going to take it to Netflix or something like that. Long-form streaming television, with a completely new actor. We’re rebooting and starting over and we’re going to try and find the perfect guy.[22]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Reacher
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Reacher_(book_series)

  90. @Not Only Wrathful
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The only fact on that list is that there were topless women on a yacht. I find it funny that you think this is notable. You know that women sunbathing topless is pretty ordinary in many parts of Europe? Being English, I found it amusing as a kid, but hardly scandalous.

    Also, why own a yacht unless you can have beautiful topless women sunbathing on it...

    In Germany, full nudity in areas of public swimming pools, admittedly reserved for adults, is utterly normal. You can wander into the relevant selection by accident. It is not just a thing of big liberal cities either, but in small towns and rural areas too.


    Prince Andrew REALLY likes topless females.
     
    🤷🏼‍♂️

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Juckett

    Exactly, a society that exalts the profound lyrical abilities of Cardi B and her WAP doesn’t care about some mammary glands.

  91. @Jake
    @Ron Unz

    I have never heard of either Amery, that I recall - perhaps I could have in reference to The Balfour Declaration. But then again, I am much less well read than you.

    That family tale does make perfect sense to me, however. Was Leo Amery 'secretly Jewish' in that few knew of his ethnic heritage, or did he practice Rabbinic Judaism in secret? Very, very few of the Jews who entered the Church of England, or one of its offshoots in the Anglican Communion, did so sincerely in religious terms. They became Anglicans in religious membership for economic, political, educational, and cultural motives. Their numbers, going back to the 18th century, were quite large. Whatever murmuring there was among the various degrees of Brit WASP Elites about ethnic Jews joining the club via marriage and non-religious conversion, the new money added to Brit WASP families and institutions was the deciding factor.

    Yes, WASP Elites are, and always have been, every bit as money-hungry and money-loving as Jews. Yes, back to at least archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell, the WASP Elites have been tied up with Jewish financiers. Yes, America's secular philoSemitism, which grew naturally and inevitably from Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, meant that anything like the Balfour Declaration would have whetted the appetites of hordes of Americans to enter WW1, on the side of Brit WASPs who were on the side of Jews.

    What is really interesting is that John Amery became a Nazi. Did he at some point in life ask himself what it meant that the international language of Jews, Yiddish, is Germanic? I assume he knew that Angles and Saxons were Germans and that English is a Germanic language (made much more beautiful and filled with exceptions to all rules by the French admixture). Did he also know that by the time of Charlemagne, the word 'Saxon' meant both that specific Germanic tribe and all Continental Germans who remained pagan and violently opposed to anything Roman and Catholic? Did he then conclude that in the 20th century, the Nazis, not the Brit WASPs, were the exemplars of manly Germanic - fully Saxon - culture and that that culture was, as Yiddish strongly suggest, one that is best for Jews in Europe who intend to be anti-Christ and anti-Roman?

    Whatever the likely answers for John Amery's life and his family history, it is a given that any such investigations today are not kosher, to either WASP Elites or Jews.

    Replies: @Ron Unz, @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree, @Brás Cubas

    Did John Amery know about his own Jewish ancestry? Maybe his father hid it from his own son (I’m speculating here). For what it’s worth, Leo was genetically only half-Jewish, and his son one-quarter.

    There is a play which apparently deals with this story. It is called ‘An English Tragedy’, and was written by Ronald Harwood. I haven’t read it nor watched it. Here’s what the Wikipedia page on Leo Amery says about it:

    The playwright Ronald Harwood, who explores the relationship between Leo and John Amery in his play An English Tragedy (2008), considers it significant to the son’s story that the father had apparently concealed his partly-Jewish ancestry.

  92. @Ron Unz
    Well, I'm somewhat skeptical of these sorts of "conspiracy theories" regarding secret plots by successors of Rhodes to enhance the worldwide power of the British Empire. After all, since the plotters were mostly some of the top public figures in the British Empire, what else would anyone expect them to be doing? It's like a "secret plot" by the top Google executives to establish Google's supremacy among Internet companies.

    But I've been doing quite a lot of history reading in recent months, and have discovered some odd items regarding one of the names mentioned.

    Until earlier this year, I'd probably never heard of Leo Amery, but he was actually a pretty prominent political figure of that era, one of Churchill's closest lifelong friends and eventually an important member of the British Cabinet. He was also secretly Jewish, and according to some accounts, was the individual who actually drafted the Balfour Declaration calling for the establishment of the State of Israel, which according to many historians played a crucial role in bringing America into the World War I on the British side.

    But oddly enough, during World War II Amery's eldest son John became a great supporter of Adolf Hitler, defected to Nazi Germany, and was a leading wartime propaganda broadcaster for the Third Reich, being afterward hanged as a traitor by the British.

    Offhand, these strange family twists seem far more shocking than claims that there was a secret plot by the leaders of the British Empire to enhance the power of the British Empire. And although they seem pretty solidly documented, they never made it into any of my standard history books, so I'd never heard a word about it. Maybe some "conspiracy expert" can say whether the LaRouchies or some other groups covered it.

    Replies: @Jake, @kaganovitch, @Jane Plain, @Anon, @Rob McX, @Anonymous

    Kids like to rebel. *shrug*. This particular kid just took things a little further than normal.

    My dad was a leftist, which is probably the main reason I now frequent this place. My mother later married a right-wing guy, and so of course my half-brother is a leftist.

  93. Anonymous[346] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    ignoring the fact that the British generally, and for that matter Amery the elder in particular, led the fight against fascism while the commies were in bed with them).

    Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is not quite memory holed but seems to be very downplayed in any of the standard histories of WWII. This still matters because of all the retconning about NaziNaziNazi on the behalf of commies. Yet it was no accident that the US Left was all for peace, peace, peace from the summer of 1939 right up to June, 1941 when a total 180 degree turn happened - because Moscow ordered it to be so.

    Fact: Stalin was the ally of Hitler from 1939 to June, 1941. Fact. Commies don't like it, but fact. Muh Purity of Socialism, lol.

    Plus Britain stood alone against both the Nazi and Communist regime from the summer of 1940 to December of 1941. Just as Finland stood alone against the Soviets. But with different results.

    Replies: @Jane Plain, @Anonymous, @kaganovitch

    Fact: Stalin was the ally of Hitler from 1939 to June, 1941. Fact. Commies don’t like it, but fact. Muh Purity of Socialism, lol.

    Stalin was just being a doctrinaire communist here. Nazis and Communists also worked together against the Social Democrats in Wiemar Germany, so this alliance wasn’t out of the blue.

    It’s a consequence of orthodox Marxist-Leninist doctrine, which teaches that bourgeois parties/states are a greater danger than fascist ones.

  94. @notsaying
    @Jane Plain

    If their goal was freedom and independence they have much less under their present circumstances in which they have tremendous pressure to make money and reveal their private selves.

    Apparently they want to establish themselves in a parallel universe here in which they play the same role to the American people as they should be playing to the British people at home in the UK. But of course there is no such role available to them here; we have no royal family. I saw someone quoted yesterday claiming that by participating in our politics through get out the vote efforts they are breaking the rules of the UK monarchy and that makes sense to me.

    I think they should go back before the break is too hard to heal. If they are determined to stay, they should give up their titles and Harry should give up his claim to the throne. I don't think they will do this though. I think they will stick to the incomplete and unmanageable split.

    Replies: @Jane Plain, @Hibernian

    …we have no royal family.

    Except the Kennedys.

  95. @For what it's worth
    @J.Ross

    Do you think that World Communism, as an organized conspiracy based in Mother Russia, is a thing?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    What if there are American people, in America, with no connection whatsoever to Russia or anyone Russian, who voluntarily explain in their own words that they consider themselves to be Marxists?
    What if there are communist countries which are not and have never been Russia?
    Here I thought you were going for the whole Soviet Union stopped existing thing but you aren’t even on that level.

    • Replies: @anon
    @J.Ross

    This reminds me, the 300 pound Kim may or may not be in a coma. Kim Yo Jong may or may not be running North Korea.

    https://www.ibtimes.com/rumors-spread-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-coma-3033871

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @For what it's worth
    @J.Ross

    My comment was motivated by the mid-90s JBS conspiracy theory that the fall of Soviet Communism was a fake-out by Communist masterminds to lure the West into a Soviet system. Um, no. The European Union sucks, but it sucks for its own reasons. It's not a KGB plot. Soviet Communism actually did fall and is dead.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  96. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    “The cops told me this is happening frequently because people are desperate for money right now due to Coronavirus and people being out of work,” she continued. “There is a lot of theft and muggings going down. Posting this to remind everyone to be really careful and watch your surroundings. These are really difficult times and we need to look out for one another.”
     
    Or, you know, she's going to vote Biden because he'll end these difficult Trump times, help out those desperate people and fix that broken system that's been causing so many lately to shoplift loaves of bread, etc.

    What basis is there for thinking that BLM menacing gentrifiers and blocking roads creates secret Trump voters rather than liberals doubling-down when personally confronted by their pet issues?

    Do even Trump voters think wokeism will slow down if he wins again?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Charlotte

    Do even Trump voters think wokeism will slow down if he wins again?

    I don’t think wokeism will slow down . . . but do you think Biden/Harris will slow it down or speed it up? Biden’s too mentally compromised to be a force, and I doubt Harris has any guiding principle beyond “what will make me look good in the media and ensure me a second term?”

  97. @J.Ross
    @For what it's worth

    What if there are American people, in America, with no connection whatsoever to Russia or anyone Russian, who voluntarily explain in their own words that they consider themselves to be Marxists?
    What if there are communist countries which are not and have never been Russia?
    Here I thought you were going for the whole Soviet Union stopped existing thing but you aren't even on that level.

    Replies: @anon, @For what it's worth

    This reminds me, the 300 pound Kim may or may not be in a coma. Kim Yo Jong may or may not be running North Korea.

    https://www.ibtimes.com/rumors-spread-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-coma-3033871

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @anon

    Too good to be true.
    The Norks are all starving, except their leader, whose over-indulgent diet killed him.

  98. @anon
    ignoring the fact that the British generally, and for that matter Amery the elder in particular, led the fight against fascism while the commies were in bed with them).

    Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is not quite memory holed but seems to be very downplayed in any of the standard histories of WWII. This still matters because of all the retconning about NaziNaziNazi on the behalf of commies. Yet it was no accident that the US Left was all for peace, peace, peace from the summer of 1939 right up to June, 1941 when a total 180 degree turn happened - because Moscow ordered it to be so.

    Fact: Stalin was the ally of Hitler from 1939 to June, 1941. Fact. Commies don't like it, but fact. Muh Purity of Socialism, lol.

    Plus Britain stood alone against both the Nazi and Communist regime from the summer of 1940 to December of 1941. Just as Finland stood alone against the Soviets. But with different results.

    Replies: @Jane Plain, @Anonymous, @kaganovitch

    Yet it was no accident that the US Left was all for peace, peace, peace from the summer of 1939 right up to June, 1941 when a total 180 degree turn happened – because Moscow ordered it to be so.

    The degree to which this was so, is startling. The US left turned on a dime from attacking Roosevelt as a proto-Fascist and the New Deal as a plot against the proletariat, to praising Roosevelt as a bulwark against Fascism, back to denouncing him as a warmonger for aid to Britain during the period of Molotov -Ribbentrop, right back to Roosevelt is not enough of a warmonger after Barbarossa. You have to read the output of commie stalwarts like Trumbo and his ilk to get the full ‘We have always been at war with Eastasia’ flavor. Allen Ryskind in ‘Hollywood Traitors: Blacklisted Screenwriters – Agents of Stalin, Allies of Hitler’ has pretty much chapter and verse on this.

  99. @anon
    @J.Ross

    This reminds me, the 300 pound Kim may or may not be in a coma. Kim Yo Jong may or may not be running North Korea.

    https://www.ibtimes.com/rumors-spread-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-coma-3033871

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Too good to be true.
    The Norks are all starving, except their leader, whose over-indulgent diet killed him.

  100. @kaganovitch
    @Ron Unz

    As I pointed out, Leo Amery was a top British Cabinet minister during WWII and one of Churchill’s closest friends. But his eldest son admired Adolf Hitler, defected to Nazi Germany, and became a top Third Reich wartime propagandist, afterwards being executed for treason. Isn’t that an interesting historical tidbit worth mentioning? After all, the history books do always mention the similar execution of young Amery’s Nazi broadcasting colleague “Lord Haw-Haw,” who was otherwise a totally obscure individual.

    While you make a good point, I'm not sure the comparison with Lord Haw -Haw is very instructive. L.H.H. broadcasted for 6 years, was known to millions of Britons and Americans, in short was very high profile. Amery on the other hand was only an occasional, not a regular broadcaster and was pretty low profile, i. e. not really known to the public. There may have been an element of pity for his family in the contemporary coverage of Amery's trial. From what I can see from Lexis, google, proquest etc., the newspapers don't seem to have made quite as much of a meal of it, as I would have expected.

    Fwiw Ronald Harwood, a prominent British playwright, (Jewish, born Horowitz.) wrote a play about the Amery affair around 10 years ago, so it's not really being embargoed. From what I could tell though from reviews, it has the usual anti British slant (If only Amery pere hadn't hidden his Jewish heritage, his psychopath son John wouldn't have become a fascist Nazi thus expressing John Bull's disdain for the "other", 'wogs begin at Calais' blah blah blah.. ignoring the fact that the British generally, and for that matter Amery the elder in particular, led the fight against fascism while the commies were in bed with them).

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Leo Amery was the second most important anti-appeaser to Churchill in the late 1930s. I could imagine that if Churchill had died in, say, 1938, Amery would have become Prime Minister in May 1940.

  101. @JohnnyWalker123
    @JohnnyWalker123

    https://twitter.com/FakeWelt/status/1160964681198166016


    The creepy billionaire’s maintenance man at his Palm Beach mansion, Juan Alessi, is quoted in the court docs as saying that he, as a worker of Epstein’s, had met “Prince Diana’s secretary with her children”.

     


    “I then listed Senator Mitchell, Prince Andrew, Princess Sarah Ferguson, Miss Yugoslavia, Miss Germany, Alan Dershowitz, Princess Diana’s secretary with her children, Mr Trump, Mr Robert Kennedy Jr, Frederik Fekkai, and a couple Noble prize winners as celebrities that I had seen while working for Mr Epstein.”
     
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/NINTCHDBPICT000505118110-1-e1562953270899.jpg

    Here's a picture of Prince Andrew with Epstein on yacht, partying near Phuket. There are topless women on board.

    The Duke of York, 59, who divorced Sarah Ferguson in 1996, was also pictured holidaying in Phuket, Thailand, with the controversial financier and several topless women in 2001.

     

    Here's another story involving Prince Andrew with a topless female.

    https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1265223961761193986

    https://twitter.com/KirbySommers/status/1297438236604870659

    Summary:

    -Princes William and Harry went to Epstein's mansion when they were quite young.

    -Senator Mitchell, Prince Andrew, Princess Sarah Ferguson, Miss Yugoslavia, Miss Germany, Alan Dershowitz, Princess Diana’s secretary, Mr. Trump, Mr. Robert Kennedy Jr, Frederik Fekkai, and a couple Noble prize winners were also spotted at the mansion.

    -Prince Andrew and Epstein partied with topless women on a yacht near Phuket, Thailand.

    -Prince Andrew was seen grinding on a girl on Epstein's orgy island (the place where Bill Clinton also stayed).

    -Prince Andrew REALLY likes topless females.

    -Protesters are outside Buckingham Palace right now, yelling "pedophile" at Prince Andrew.

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful, @Gordo, @Ragno

    -Prince Andrew REALLY likes topless females.

    Him, and 500 million other blokes.

  102. The younger Amery has a brief speaking role in Leni’s Triumph of the Will, I believe.

    (I have not seen it yet myself).

  103. @MEH 0910
    @Old Palo Altan

    https://www.instyle.com/news/prince-harry-grandfather-prince-philip-resemblance-magazine-cover


    While Prince William is pretty much Princess Diana’s twin, redhead Prince Harry’s resemblance to his royal relatives is a little less obvious — or so we thought …

    Over the weekend, Getty Images royal photographer Chris Jackson unearthed a photo posted to the cover of a 1957 issue of Paris Match magazine in which Harry’s paternal grandfather, Prince Philip, is photographed in his white military uniform and cap. Roughly 36 years old at the time, the Duke of Edinburgh bears a striking resemblance to his future grandson, 34.
     
    https://twitter.com/ChrisJack_Getty/status/1053789393268498433

    Replies: @Old Palo Altan

    That photo was publicised in 2016 and it has not put an end to the speculation.
    I base my opinion, not on photos or rumour or interviews, but on the reaction of people I know who are very close to the Royal Family (so much so that Prince Philip himself attended the funeral of the family patriarch) when the subject is brought up.

    Their gaze turns downward and they say nothing. The message is clear: don’t ask, because we daren’t tell.

    Only a DNA test will convince me otherwise.

  104. @J.Ross
    @For what it's worth

    What if there are American people, in America, with no connection whatsoever to Russia or anyone Russian, who voluntarily explain in their own words that they consider themselves to be Marxists?
    What if there are communist countries which are not and have never been Russia?
    Here I thought you were going for the whole Soviet Union stopped existing thing but you aren't even on that level.

    Replies: @anon, @For what it's worth

    My comment was motivated by the mid-90s JBS conspiracy theory that the fall of Soviet Communism was a fake-out by Communist masterminds to lure the West into a Soviet system. Um, no. The European Union sucks, but it sucks for its own reasons. It’s not a KGB plot. Soviet Communism actually did fall and is dead.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @For what it's worth

    So are you honestly just hearing for the first time that BLM are Marxists in their own words? There's video if you're into that sort of thing.

  105. OT:
    Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure & Bogus Journey – re:View

    Mike and Jay are joined by their very special guest, a noisy cricket, to discuss the first two Bill and Ted movies.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    Half in the Bag: Bill and Ted Face the Music
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tx33tgXT3M


    Mike and Jay face the music and review the new 30-ish years later Bill and Ted sequel. Once again, they are joined by their very special guest, the noisy cricket. That guy just loves sitting in on their discussions!
     
    Actually, Rich Evans is reviewing this with Jay.
  106. OT:

    But Tenet is not Nolan’s best work, for two main reasons. First, to say the plot is hard to follow would be a compliment. Second, John David Washington, who plays the Protagonist, is the weakest leading man in any Nolan film.

  107. @For what it's worth
    @J.Ross

    My comment was motivated by the mid-90s JBS conspiracy theory that the fall of Soviet Communism was a fake-out by Communist masterminds to lure the West into a Soviet system. Um, no. The European Union sucks, but it sucks for its own reasons. It's not a KGB plot. Soviet Communism actually did fall and is dead.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    So are you honestly just hearing for the first time that BLM are Marxists in their own words? There’s video if you’re into that sort of thing.

  108. @MEH 0910
    OT:
    Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure & Bogus Journey - re:View
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwrl6P5c1R0

    Mike and Jay are joined by their very special guest, a noisy cricket, to discuss the first two Bill and Ted movies.
     

    https://twitter.com/JayBauman1/status/1298643437932224513
    https://twitter.com/JayBauman1/status/1298657238698078208
    https://twitter.com/JayBauman1/status/1298742159567454209

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    Half in the Bag: Bill and Ted Face the Music

    Mike and Jay face the music and review the new 30-ish years later Bill and Ted sequel. Once again, they are joined by their very special guest, the noisy cricket. That guy just loves sitting in on their discussions!

    Actually, Rich Evans is reviewing this with Jay.

  109. Maybe Charlottesville was the grandest hate hoax of them all:

    https://althouse.blogspot.com/2020/08/scott-adams-plays-with-idea-of-deeper.html

    Also see:

    https://popehat.substack.com/p/fourth-circuit-holds-the-line-on

    Two “white supremacists”, convicted of traveling to Charlottesville, under the “Anti-Riot Act” no less, pled guilty but also appealed the constitutionality of the act (which, parts of, were struck down). Why would they do that?

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