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  1. Stanton was a favorite of film critic Roger Ebert, who said that “no movie featuring either Harry Dean Stanton or M. Emmet Walsh in a supporting role can be altogether bad.” However, Ebert later admitted that Dream a Little Dream (1989), in which Stanton appeared, was a “clear violation” of this rule.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Dean_Stanton

  2. “Avenge me, boys!”
    I always thought a mustachioed Stanton was a Jim Leyland doppelganger.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @It's All Ball Bearings

    Classic scene

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6qWnmb_22s

    Replies: @Vermont Apple

  3. Anonymous [AKA "Larry213"] says:

    Missouri Breaks!

  4. Henry Dean Stanton, RIP

    Harry Dean Stanton

  5. @It's All Ball Bearings
    "Avenge me, boys!"
    I always thought a mustachioed Stanton was a Jim Leyland doppelganger.

    Replies: @syonredux

    Classic scene

    • Replies: @Vermont Apple
    @syonredux

    A pair of wire cutters would probably be more appropriate.

  6. It’s Harry Dean Stanton. Not to nitpick, but the headline needs a correction.

  7. My favorite role of his was the fundamentalist Mormon cult leader in “Big Love”. Most likely inspired by Warren Jeffs.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    My favorite role of his was the fundamentalist Mormon cult leader in “Big Love”. Most likely inspired by Warren Jeffs.

    Yes, he was excellent in that. Although my personal favorite will probably always be his REPO MAN peformance (with an Honorable Mention for "Brain" in ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK).

  8. Who was it who called him “the wino’s Robert Mitchum”?

  9. I always liked him best as the greasy union guy who gets killed by the alien first in Alien.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @SonOfStrom


    I always liked him best as the greasy union guy who gets killed by the alien first in Alien.
     
    This was the first time I took notice of him. He lived to 91, so well done Mr. Harry Dean. He was not a sage, but a Chinese saying goes, "The sage lives a long life"/

    Harry got to hang with the elite of Hollywood and the LA music scene. They liked to have him around. My guess, he had good tales and stories to tell, a Kentucky boy.

    Replies: @anonymous

    , @oddsbodkins
    @SonOfStrom

    Harry and Yaphet were awesome as the disgruntled engineers in Alien. Really helped set the gritty feel of the ship.

    Replies: @SonOfStrom

    , @jamie b.
    @SonOfStrom

    Actually, John Hurt was the first killed.

    , @Dr. Krieger
    @SonOfStrom

    Brett and Dallas were not killed by the Xenomorph. It grabbed them and took them back to its nest where it cocooned them. There they started to morph into eggs/facehuggers. Ripley recognizes Dallas but Brett is too far gone. She torches them both. This was a deleted scene that was added to the 2003 Director's Cut. Its pretty sad TBH.

    https://youtu.be/8MCoefVgW9w

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy

  10. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    HDS was a David Lynch favorite.

    “The great Harry Dean Stanton has left us,” Lynch wrote in his statement. “There went a great one. There’s nobody like Harry Dean. Everyone loved him. and with good reason. He was a great actor (actually beyond great) — and a great human being — so great to be around him!!! You are really going to be missed Harry Dean!!! Loads of love to you wherever you are now!!!”

    I never got Lynch but people tell me he’s a genius.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @anonymous

    “The great Harry Dean Stanton has left us,”

    The 'great' thing about him was he was not great but added something to the movie. He didn't have much in looks, charisma, color, energy, or eccentricity. Nothing as iconic as Strother Bannon Martin's "What we have here is a failure to communicate".

    And I'm not sure what exactly he really added to certain movies, but you wouldn't want him gone once he's there. He adds something. Ringo factor. He didn't do much later but it wasn't the Beatles without him.
    Another thing. He had one of those faces that you can never forget. He had a small role in GODFATHER 2 but you sense him right away. (In contrast, I had problem remembering Rip Torn's face over and over. I'd forget what he looked like every time.)

    I think this side of him appealed to Lynch where reality is not what it seems to be. Dennis Hopper was the Mr. Hyde version of Harry Dean Stanton. If Hopper just sat quietly in a corner, he too would be a kind of nondescript person like Stanton. But he got the crazy virus. Still, his villainy in BLUE VELVET is creepy because it's so fragile and vulnerable. 'Baby wants to...'

    Replies: @Bugg, @Lagertha, @Pat Boyle

    , @bartok
    @anonymous

    Lynch and Frost wrote a fantastic set of characters for TWIN PEAKS and then found an amazing cast to play those characters. Just perfect television.

    Lynch without Frost, not as great. Still great casting though.

  11. The funniest thing he ever did was a cameo on Two and a Half Men. He was hilarious. And he looked like crap back then, lol. RIP

    • Troll: The Z Blog
  12. His performance in “Paris, Texas” is what I’ll remember him for, especially this scene:

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    @jcd1974

    RIP HDS.

    Somebody PLEASE post an imbedded clip of the opening to Paris, Tx.

    I was just out there this summer in LA too. And in Marfa slash Big Bend west Texas where they filmed it....

    Genius. Rest in peace

    , @J1234
    @jcd1974

    Ry Cooder's music in Paris, Texas was haunting. Harry Dean Stanton was exactly the right person for that role. There were no heroes in that movie, just sad characters who were all too true to real life. The familial dysfunction of that time is now the social dysfunction of today.

    Replies: @Ganderson

    , @jackson
    @jcd1974

    Yeah that monologue was the best. The whole movie and the Ry Cooder soundtrack were too.

  13. Now there are only two actors left alive from Cool Hand Luke; Morgan Woodward (the man with no eyes). And Joy (put ’em on the glass) Harmon…

    All those epics from the ’60s are seeing the cast just whittled down….

    • Replies: @cthoms
    @AB-

    Hard to believe that today there are more actual members of The Dirty Dozen alive than members of the entire cast of Cool Hand Luke. (both from 1967)

  14. @SonOfStrom
    I always liked him best as the greasy union guy who gets killed by the alien first in Alien.

    Replies: @Clyde, @oddsbodkins, @jamie b., @Dr. Krieger

    I always liked him best as the greasy union guy who gets killed by the alien first in Alien.

    This was the first time I took notice of him. He lived to 91, so well done Mr. Harry Dean. He was not a sage, but a Chinese saying goes, “The sage lives a long life”/

    Harry got to hang with the elite of Hollywood and the LA music scene. They liked to have him around. My guess, he had good tales and stories to tell, a Kentucky boy.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Clyde

    He also had a bit part in Godfather II as one of the FBI guys in charge of Frankie Five Angels.

  15. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    HDS was a David Lynch favorite.

    “The great Harry Dean Stanton has left us,” Lynch wrote in his statement. “There went a great one. There’s nobody like Harry Dean. Everyone loved him. and with good reason. He was a great actor (actually beyond great) — and a great human being — so great to be around him!!! You are really going to be missed Harry Dean!!! Loads of love to you wherever you are now!!!”
     
    I never got Lynch but people tell me he's a genius.

    Replies: @Anon, @bartok

    “The great Harry Dean Stanton has left us,”

    The ‘great’ thing about him was he was not great but added something to the movie. He didn’t have much in looks, charisma, color, energy, or eccentricity. Nothing as iconic as Strother Bannon Martin’s “What we have here is a failure to communicate”.

    And I’m not sure what exactly he really added to certain movies, but you wouldn’t want him gone once he’s there. He adds something. Ringo factor. He didn’t do much later but it wasn’t the Beatles without him.
    Another thing. He had one of those faces that you can never forget. He had a small role in GODFATHER 2 but you sense him right away. (In contrast, I had problem remembering Rip Torn’s face over and over. I’d forget what he looked like every time.)

    I think this side of him appealed to Lynch where reality is not what it seems to be. Dennis Hopper was the Mr. Hyde version of Harry Dean Stanton. If Hopper just sat quietly in a corner, he too would be a kind of nondescript person like Stanton. But he got the crazy virus. Still, his villainy in BLUE VELVET is creepy because it’s so fragile and vulnerable. ‘Baby wants to…’

    • Replies: @Bugg
    @Anon

    Almost at the end here, you see Stanton as the card-playing babysitter FBI agent for mob turncoat Frank Pentangeli-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXZhYJcXh2I

    , @Lagertha
    @Anon

    He had, what we call in the Nordic countries: a face carved with an axe. He also played the laconic oddball, perfectly. I adored him in many films.

    , @Pat Boyle
    @Anon

    He was like pepper. You add salt to the recipe because salt is a nutrient vital for life. But why do we always add pepper?

    Stanton was a constant ingredient in many, many movies. He seemed to be an ingredient that added some reality to the scenario. He just made the mix better.

    Who will now fulfill that role?

  16. Frank Vincent also died recently. Any thoughts, Steve?

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous

    Steve doesn't have cable, so he probably didn't see much of Vincent on The Sopranos. But Vincent had a memorable final scene on that show.

  17. Steve, is it safe to assume that all of the trashy locations in Repo Man have been gentrified?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Clever User Name

    Gentrification doesn't really happen that fast in L.A.

    It's partly because the residential parts of slums never get that bad. I drove around Watts in 1977 and the residential parts were pleasant. So things don't get super bad and hence don't improve super dramatically except over a very long period.

    Is Boyle Heights in Repo Man -- the bridge? It's still kind of dumpy although not terrible. People are talking about it gentrifying, but more is said than done.

    I guess the north side of Silver Lake is finally fully gentrified.

    I presume Venice is fully gentrified, but people have been talking about that since 1980 or earlier.

    Hollywood is spiffier than in 1977, but it was never too bad.

    Replies: @StillCARealist, @Lugash

  18. What an interestingly unique actor. I’ve always been a fan. The youtube clips of him on Letterman are pretty good and it seems like he didn’t act so much as just be himself.

    “What do you do to relax?”

    “Drugs”

  19. Also was in Pretty in Pink.

    And had a part in the just on Twin Peaks Returns. Sitting on a park bench he witnessed a little boy playing with his mom cross the street. A truck runs a stop sign at full speed and kills the kid. Harry Dean sees the kid’s soul float away and goes to comfort the mother/look to see what he just saw.

    He served as a cook on a ship in the Pacific in WWII.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @hhsiii

    During the kamikaze attacks that sank many American ships off Okinawa.

  20. I have nothing but disdain for 99 percent of celebrities, but I’m not ashamed to admit that when I read this headline, I verbally exclaimed “Oh no!” He was a great one, and will be missed.

    RIP

  21. Very OT, sorry to interrupt: there’s some commotion about a “worse-than-nutty professor at a Manhattan college best known for preparing students for careers in law enforcement” who ” was placed on administrative leave Friday for tweeting his excitement over the opportunity to teach “future dead cops.””

    “Michael Isaacson, an adjunct professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, sent the offending tweet on Aug. 23.”

    “Some of y’all might think it sucks being an anti-fascist teaching at John Jay College but I think it’s a privilege to teach future dead cops,” wrote Isaacson, who works in the school’s economics department.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/john-jay-professor-slammed-future-dead-cops-tweet-article-1.3498056

    https://twitter.com/VulgarEconomics/status/908739848248455170

    http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/faculty/michael-isaacson

    The corrupt bureaucrats reacted in the usual idiot way, of course:

    School president Karol Mason said the professor’s comments posed a danger to faculty and staff.

    “Today, members of the John Jay faculty received threats, and our students expressed concerns for their safety in the classroom,” Mason said. “Out of concern for the safety of our students, faculty and staff, we are immediately placing the adjunct on administrative leave as we continue to review this matter.”

    ==============================================

    http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/sites/default/files/faculty/cv/Public%20CV.pdf

    One of his “skills” is “FileZilla”. That’s a FTP-client built like the Windows Explorer to upload files to a server. It takes about one minute to learn how to handle it, if you’re not braindead. I wonder about the rest of the qualifications as the rest of the CV isn’t impressive either, to put it politely.

    I’ve the not-so-sneaking suspicion that the guy is a moron with a worthless degree–somebody knowledgeable should check his cv, get him fired for incompetence or at least ruin his career, same for those persons and institutions that graded, tested, and promoted him.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @theo the kraut


    ...with a worthless degree
     
    He's listed as a PhD student, so I guess there is still a chance he won't get that degree and inflict even more harm on society.

    But he's at The New School for Social Research, which is a lefty propaganda mill, so they will toss him all the PhDs required to keep him from complaining.

    One paper listed was, "The Real Origins Of ‘Lone Wolf’ White Supremacists Like Dylann Roof". I wonder how many White Supremacists he interviewed for that paper.

    Replies: @Yak-15, @Ivy

    , @Lot
    @theo the kraut

    Filezilla is also a simple FTP server. It isn't very complicated if you like computers. But plenty of bright people cannot figure out anything to so with computer networks.

    The nore obvious sign he is dumb is his MA in econ from Howard.

    , @Dave Bowman
    @theo the kraut

    "Isaacson". Hmm...

    Let me guess: Leftie-liberal, White-hating, multi-cult-supporting, black-lies-matter-cheering, cultural-Marxist, communist-sympathising, cop-hating racist.

    Ummm... And, of course... Jew.

  22. That was quick. If we could get everything to correct itself that fast…

  23. @Hapalong Cassidy
    My favorite role of his was the fundamentalist Mormon cult leader in "Big Love". Most likely inspired by Warren Jeffs.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    My favorite role of his was the fundamentalist Mormon cult leader in “Big Love”. Most likely inspired by Warren Jeffs.

    Yes, he was excellent in that. Although my personal favorite will probably always be his REPO MAN peformance (with an Honorable Mention for “Brain” in ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK).

  24. He was the second guy killed by the alien, not the first. But he was the oldest cast member by five years. Ian Holm is about 86 and Tom Skerritt is 84. John Hurt died much younger than any of them. He was only 9 years older than Weaver and Cartwright.

    Stanton broke through with Paris, Texas. All of his iconic roles except Alien came after that. Great character actor.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @education realist

    Stanton's biggest roles, like Paris, Texas came in the mid-1980s when he was approaching 60.

    Replies: @2Mintzin1

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @education realist

    Kind of hard to forget the first death in Alien. John Hurt reprised that scene in Space Balls a few years later.

    , @SonOfStrom
    @education realist

    I suppose the first killed was technically the guy who took the egg to the face, but HDS was the first killed by the actual classic eggplant headed alien :)

  25. @Anon
    @anonymous

    “The great Harry Dean Stanton has left us,”

    The 'great' thing about him was he was not great but added something to the movie. He didn't have much in looks, charisma, color, energy, or eccentricity. Nothing as iconic as Strother Bannon Martin's "What we have here is a failure to communicate".

    And I'm not sure what exactly he really added to certain movies, but you wouldn't want him gone once he's there. He adds something. Ringo factor. He didn't do much later but it wasn't the Beatles without him.
    Another thing. He had one of those faces that you can never forget. He had a small role in GODFATHER 2 but you sense him right away. (In contrast, I had problem remembering Rip Torn's face over and over. I'd forget what he looked like every time.)

    I think this side of him appealed to Lynch where reality is not what it seems to be. Dennis Hopper was the Mr. Hyde version of Harry Dean Stanton. If Hopper just sat quietly in a corner, he too would be a kind of nondescript person like Stanton. But he got the crazy virus. Still, his villainy in BLUE VELVET is creepy because it's so fragile and vulnerable. 'Baby wants to...'

    Replies: @Bugg, @Lagertha, @Pat Boyle

    Almost at the end here, you see Stanton as the card-playing babysitter FBI agent for mob turncoat Frank Pentangeli-

  26. @jcd1974
    His performance in "Paris, Texas" is what I'll remember him for, especially this scene:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evncErSKu6w

    Replies: @Neoconned, @J1234, @jackson

    RIP HDS.

    Somebody PLEASE post an imbedded clip of the opening to Paris, Tx.

    I was just out there this summer in LA too. And in Marfa slash Big Bend west Texas where they filmed it….

    Genius. Rest in peace

  27. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Genius T. Coates says that Donald Trump is a white supremacist because “he didn’t want black people counting his money”

    Here’s the source of that quote:

    Instantly, Donald was enthused. “Yeah, I never liked the guy. I don’t think he knows what the f––– he’s doing. My accountants up in New York are always complaining about him. He’s not responsive. And isn’t it funny, I’ve got black accountants at the Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Those are the kind of people I want counting my money. No one else.”

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Anon

    "The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Those are the kind of people I want counting my money. No one else.”

    Doesn't that statement make DJT an Orthodox Jewish Supremacist, as opposed to a White Supremacist?

    Does Coates have a black accountant? A black business manager? A black investment strategist? Black lawyers? Black editors at his publisher? I didn't watch the clip, but I gather MSNBC didn't ask Coates about his own policies about hiring professionals, melanin-deprived or not.

  28. I wonder if Dick Miller is next.

  29. @syonredux
    @It's All Ball Bearings

    Classic scene

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6qWnmb_22s

    Replies: @Vermont Apple

    A pair of wire cutters would probably be more appropriate.

  30. Yep. I was pretty young and some weird movie came on. It was Repo Man. Bizarre but cool.

    RIP.

  31. @Anon
    @anonymous

    “The great Harry Dean Stanton has left us,”

    The 'great' thing about him was he was not great but added something to the movie. He didn't have much in looks, charisma, color, energy, or eccentricity. Nothing as iconic as Strother Bannon Martin's "What we have here is a failure to communicate".

    And I'm not sure what exactly he really added to certain movies, but you wouldn't want him gone once he's there. He adds something. Ringo factor. He didn't do much later but it wasn't the Beatles without him.
    Another thing. He had one of those faces that you can never forget. He had a small role in GODFATHER 2 but you sense him right away. (In contrast, I had problem remembering Rip Torn's face over and over. I'd forget what he looked like every time.)

    I think this side of him appealed to Lynch where reality is not what it seems to be. Dennis Hopper was the Mr. Hyde version of Harry Dean Stanton. If Hopper just sat quietly in a corner, he too would be a kind of nondescript person like Stanton. But he got the crazy virus. Still, his villainy in BLUE VELVET is creepy because it's so fragile and vulnerable. 'Baby wants to...'

    Replies: @Bugg, @Lagertha, @Pat Boyle

    He had, what we call in the Nordic countries: a face carved with an axe. He also played the laconic oddball, perfectly. I adored him in many films.

  32. A toast to Harry Dean – I’m cracking open a can of Drink.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Dmon


    A toast to Harry Dean – I’m cracking open a can of Drink.
     
    In honor of him, I'm going to order sushi, and not pay.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Dmon

    Ya know somethin’ — You’re All Right !

    https://youtu.be/ewwKExvkqXQ?t=2m14s

  33. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Harry Dean Stanton was in the U.S. Navy on a ship off Okinawa during the Battle of Okinawa in WWII. This was a pretty dangerous assignment. My father, who is two months younger than Stanton (and is still alive and well), was in the U.S. Army 77th Division in the Battle of Okinawa. This is the same battle featured in Hacksaw Ridge, with MOH-winner Desmond Doss, who was also in the 77th Division. Based on stories my dad has told me it was insane and brutal. My dad received 2 PH for injuries from grenades and bullets. Anyway, he said kamikazes were constantly targeting U.S. ships off Okinawa and he would hear and see the guns on the ships blazing and kamikazes being shot down and crashing into the water. But once he saw a kamikaze make it through and crash dead center on a Navy ship with a big explosion. He said that as bad as things were on land he wouldn’t have traded it for being on one of those U.S. Navy ships off Okinawa.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Correction, my dad is two months older than Stanton.

    , @Johann Ricke
    @Anonymous


    But once he saw a kamikaze make it through and crash dead center on a Navy ship with a big explosion. He said that as bad as things were on land he wouldn’t have traded it for being on one of those U.S. Navy ships off Okinawa.
     
    40% of the dead were Navy personnel, and some of the Army and Marine personnel dead might have been on the ships when the kamikaze planes hit.
  34. @jcd1974
    His performance in "Paris, Texas" is what I'll remember him for, especially this scene:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evncErSKu6w

    Replies: @Neoconned, @J1234, @jackson

    Ry Cooder’s music in Paris, Texas was haunting. Harry Dean Stanton was exactly the right person for that role. There were no heroes in that movie, just sad characters who were all too true to real life. The familial dysfunction of that time is now the social dysfunction of today.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @J1234

    He also does a nice turn singing on Ry Cooder's Across the Borderline, which I believe was written by John Hiatt.

  35. @Anonymous
    Harry Dean Stanton was in the U.S. Navy on a ship off Okinawa during the Battle of Okinawa in WWII. This was a pretty dangerous assignment. My father, who is two months younger than Stanton (and is still alive and well), was in the U.S. Army 77th Division in the Battle of Okinawa. This is the same battle featured in Hacksaw Ridge, with MOH-winner Desmond Doss, who was also in the 77th Division. Based on stories my dad has told me it was insane and brutal. My dad received 2 PH for injuries from grenades and bullets. Anyway, he said kamikazes were constantly targeting U.S. ships off Okinawa and he would hear and see the guns on the ships blazing and kamikazes being shot down and crashing into the water. But once he saw a kamikaze make it through and crash dead center on a Navy ship with a big explosion. He said that as bad as things were on land he wouldn't have traded it for being on one of those U.S. Navy ships off Okinawa.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Johann Ricke

    Correction, my dad is two months older than Stanton.

  36. He was great in Repo Man, a very underrated film. One of the best of the 80’s.
    Harry wasn’t Hollywood.
    He was a scrubby everyman with a wise soul.

  37. @jcd1974
    His performance in "Paris, Texas" is what I'll remember him for, especially this scene:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evncErSKu6w

    Replies: @Neoconned, @J1234, @jackson

    Yeah that monologue was the best. The whole movie and the Ry Cooder soundtrack were too.

  38. He had his fans:

    He wound up banging her like a screen door, from all accounts.

  39. @anonymous
    HDS was a David Lynch favorite.

    “The great Harry Dean Stanton has left us,” Lynch wrote in his statement. “There went a great one. There’s nobody like Harry Dean. Everyone loved him. and with good reason. He was a great actor (actually beyond great) — and a great human being — so great to be around him!!! You are really going to be missed Harry Dean!!! Loads of love to you wherever you are now!!!”
     
    I never got Lynch but people tell me he's a genius.

    Replies: @Anon, @bartok

    Lynch and Frost wrote a fantastic set of characters for TWIN PEAKS and then found an amazing cast to play those characters. Just perfect television.

    Lynch without Frost, not as great. Still great casting though.

  40. “Ordinary f**kin’ people. I hate ’em.”

    – Harry Dean Stanton in Repo Man

    R.I.P.

  41. The role I remember Harry Dean Stanton standing out the most in (other than Repo Man, of course) was as Homer Van Meter in John Milius’ Dillinger, which also featured Warren Oates as Dillinger, and Richard Dreyfuss as Baby Face Nelson. It wasn’t very accurate or realistic, but it was an entertaining movie.

    Stanton was also one of the GIs in the counter-culture World War II movie Kelly’s Heroes.

  42. @Dmon
    A toast to Harry Dean - I'm cracking open a can of Drink.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    A toast to Harry Dean – I’m cracking open a can of Drink.

    In honor of him, I’m going to order sushi, and not pay.

  43. @SonOfStrom
    I always liked him best as the greasy union guy who gets killed by the alien first in Alien.

    Replies: @Clyde, @oddsbodkins, @jamie b., @Dr. Krieger

    Harry and Yaphet were awesome as the disgruntled engineers in Alien. Really helped set the gritty feel of the ship.

    • Replies: @SonOfStrom
    @oddsbodkins

    It really did. That whole "this-thing-looks-like-it-was-probably-broken-just-last-week" vibe was so much more realistic somehow than the Star Trek "everything is hermetically sealed" vision of the future.

  44. @hhsiii
    Also was in Pretty in Pink.

    And had a part in the just on Twin Peaks Returns. Sitting on a park bench he witnessed a little boy playing with his mom cross the street. A truck runs a stop sign at full speed and kills the kid. Harry Dean sees the kid's soul float away and goes to comfort the mother/look to see what he just saw.

    He served as a cook on a ship in the Pacific in WWII.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    During the kamikaze attacks that sank many American ships off Okinawa.

  45. @Clever User Name
    Steve, is it safe to assume that all of the trashy locations in Repo Man have been gentrified?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Gentrification doesn’t really happen that fast in L.A.

    It’s partly because the residential parts of slums never get that bad. I drove around Watts in 1977 and the residential parts were pleasant. So things don’t get super bad and hence don’t improve super dramatically except over a very long period.

    Is Boyle Heights in Repo Man — the bridge? It’s still kind of dumpy although not terrible. People are talking about it gentrifying, but more is said than done.

    I guess the north side of Silver Lake is finally fully gentrified.

    I presume Venice is fully gentrified, but people have been talking about that since 1980 or earlier.

    Hollywood is spiffier than in 1977, but it was never too bad.

    • Replies: @StillCARealist
    @Steve Sailer

    I visited Hollywood in 1985 and found it to be quite spiffy. Then I went back in 1995 and it seemed exactly the same.

    , @Lugash
    @Steve Sailer

    Wasn't Silver Laker gentrified by gay urban explorers way back in the late 1980s?

  46. He was great in Wild At Heart, playing the sad-eyed boyfriend of the Evil Mom, an essentially decent small-time crook whose torture-murder after she sells him out hits home with surprising vehemence.

  47. @education realist
    He was the second guy killed by the alien, not the first. But he was the oldest cast member by five years. Ian Holm is about 86 and Tom Skerritt is 84. John Hurt died much younger than any of them. He was only 9 years older than Weaver and Cartwright.

    Stanton broke through with Paris, Texas. All of his iconic roles except Alien came after that. Great character actor.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen, @SonOfStrom

    Stanton’s biggest roles, like Paris, Texas came in the mid-1980s when he was approaching 60.

    • Replies: @2Mintzin1
    @Steve Sailer

    Who could forget his soulful rendition of "Just a Closer Walk with Thee" in Cool Hand Luke?"
    It really set the mood.

  48. I first paid attention to Harry Dean Stanton in the 1978 Dustin Hoffman crime film Straight Time. It’s well worth watching if anyone hasn’t seen it. Good roles in it for M. Emmet Walsh, Gary Busey, and Theresa Russell, too.

  49. I predicted this last December in a thread Steve made about celebrity death predictions for 2017.

    I also made another death prediction for this year which hasn’t happened yet but, well, we can only hope.

    (Hint: he’s Canadian, has way too many tattoos and everyone who isn’t under 16 and female hates him.)

  50. @Steve Sailer
    @education realist

    Stanton's biggest roles, like Paris, Texas came in the mid-1980s when he was approaching 60.

    Replies: @2Mintzin1

    Who could forget his soulful rendition of “Just a Closer Walk with Thee” in Cool Hand Luke?”
    It really set the mood.

  51. @Anon
    Genius T. Coates says that Donald Trump is a white supremacist because "he didn't want black people counting his money"

    https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/status/908856473064693760

    Here's the source of that quote:

    Instantly, Donald was enthused. “Yeah, I never liked the guy. I don’t think he knows what the f––– he’s doing. My accountants up in New York are always complaining about him. He’s not responsive. And isn’t it funny, I’ve got black accountants at the Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Those are the kind of people I want counting my money. No one else.”
     

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    “The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Those are the kind of people I want counting my money. No one else.”

    Doesn’t that statement make DJT an Orthodox Jewish Supremacist, as opposed to a White Supremacist?

    Does Coates have a black accountant? A black business manager? A black investment strategist? Black lawyers? Black editors at his publisher? I didn’t watch the clip, but I gather MSNBC didn’t ask Coates about his own policies about hiring professionals, melanin-deprived or not.

  52. @theo the kraut
    Very OT, sorry to interrupt: there's some commotion about a "worse-than-nutty professor at a Manhattan college best known for preparing students for careers in law enforcement" who " was placed on administrative leave Friday for tweeting his excitement over the opportunity to teach “future dead cops.”"

    "Michael Isaacson, an adjunct professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, sent the offending tweet on Aug. 23."

    “Some of y’all might think it sucks being an anti-fascist teaching at John Jay College but I think it’s a privilege to teach future dead cops,” wrote Isaacson, who works in the school’s economics department.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/john-jay-professor-slammed-future-dead-cops-tweet-article-1.3498056

    https://twitter.com/VulgarEconomics/status/908739848248455170

    http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/faculty/michael-isaacson

    The corrupt bureaucrats reacted in the usual idiot way, of course:

    School president Karol Mason said the professor’s comments posed a danger to faculty and staff.

    “Today, members of the John Jay faculty received threats, and our students expressed concerns for their safety in the classroom,” Mason said. “Out of concern for the safety of our students, faculty and staff, we are immediately placing the adjunct on administrative leave as we continue to review this matter.”

    ==============================================

    http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/sites/default/files/faculty/cv/Public%20CV.pdf

    One of his "skills" is "FileZilla". That's a FTP-client built like the Windows Explorer to upload files to a server. It takes about one minute to learn how to handle it, if you're not braindead. I wonder about the rest of the qualifications as the rest of the CV isn't impressive either, to put it politely.

    I've the not-so-sneaking suspicion that the guy is a moron with a worthless degree--somebody knowledgeable should check his cv, get him fired for incompetence or at least ruin his career, same for those persons and institutions that graded, tested, and promoted him.

    Replies: @bomag, @Lot, @Dave Bowman

    …with a worthless degree

    He’s listed as a PhD student, so I guess there is still a chance he won’t get that degree and inflict even more harm on society.

    But he’s at The New School for Social Research, which is a lefty propaganda mill, so they will toss him all the PhDs required to keep him from complaining.

    One paper listed was, “The Real Origins Of ‘Lone Wolf’ White Supremacists Like Dylann Roof”. I wonder how many White Supremacists he interviewed for that paper.

    • Replies: @Yak-15
    @bomag

    An enterprising and perspicacious rightist academic should attend the New School and make a pageant of debating the unhinged leftists. It could be the start of a brilliant careee if done properly.

    , @Ivy
    @bomag

    Oh, that New School.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wWUc8BZgWE

  53. @J1234
    @jcd1974

    Ry Cooder's music in Paris, Texas was haunting. Harry Dean Stanton was exactly the right person for that role. There were no heroes in that movie, just sad characters who were all too true to real life. The familial dysfunction of that time is now the social dysfunction of today.

    Replies: @Ganderson

    He also does a nice turn singing on Ry Cooder’s Across the Borderline, which I believe was written by John Hiatt.

  54. Harry Dean was great in that little side role as Max Dembo’s (Dustin Hoffman) outlaw / musician friend in Straight Time. Think that one is from ’77 . His version of the old song “Walking Cane ” around Max’s patio table is classic .

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Waylon 347

    +1 on Straight Time. Saw it when it first came out and I still remember it.

  55. I bet you Harry Dean Stanton’s English ancestors came from the same part of England where John Hurt’s people came from. Stanton seemed like some kind of ancient Brit of the pre-Roman type, so did Hurt. The internet says Hurt was born in Chesterfield, Derbyshire.

    Harry Dean Stanton looked like John Hurt and he had the same sad, wistful demeanor as John Hurt.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Charles Pewitt

    Might just be coincidence, but there's a village called Stanton down at the south east corner of Derbyshire (Chesterfield being north east Derbyshire).

    If you look at the 1881 census, Hurt is a Nottingham/South/Yorks/Derbyshire name, Stanton (although a Derbyshire village) is not common there but in Bedfordshire and Worcestershire.

    http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/Map.aspx?name=STANTON&year=1881&altyear=1998&country=GB&type=name

  56. @Steve Sailer
    @Clever User Name

    Gentrification doesn't really happen that fast in L.A.

    It's partly because the residential parts of slums never get that bad. I drove around Watts in 1977 and the residential parts were pleasant. So things don't get super bad and hence don't improve super dramatically except over a very long period.

    Is Boyle Heights in Repo Man -- the bridge? It's still kind of dumpy although not terrible. People are talking about it gentrifying, but more is said than done.

    I guess the north side of Silver Lake is finally fully gentrified.

    I presume Venice is fully gentrified, but people have been talking about that since 1980 or earlier.

    Hollywood is spiffier than in 1977, but it was never too bad.

    Replies: @StillCARealist, @Lugash

    I visited Hollywood in 1985 and found it to be quite spiffy. Then I went back in 1995 and it seemed exactly the same.

  57. @AB-
    Now there are only two actors left alive from Cool Hand Luke; Morgan Woodward (the man with no eyes). And Joy (put 'em on the glass) Harmon...

    All those epics from the '60s are seeing the cast just whittled down....

    Replies: @cthoms

    Hard to believe that today there are more actual members of The Dirty Dozen alive than members of the entire cast of Cool Hand Luke. (both from 1967)

  58. OT: Steve, in case you’re interested in observing one of the worst (best?) displays of white privilege/unbearable whiteness of being, you should wander over to Harvard Westlake for a boys high school water polo tournament today.

    And in other local news did you see that Lebron visited Notre Dame HS to check out the campus….?!

  59. @Clyde
    @SonOfStrom


    I always liked him best as the greasy union guy who gets killed by the alien first in Alien.
     
    This was the first time I took notice of him. He lived to 91, so well done Mr. Harry Dean. He was not a sage, but a Chinese saying goes, "The sage lives a long life"/

    Harry got to hang with the elite of Hollywood and the LA music scene. They liked to have him around. My guess, he had good tales and stories to tell, a Kentucky boy.

    Replies: @anonymous

    He also had a bit part in Godfather II as one of the FBI guys in charge of Frankie Five Angels.

  60. Coincidence alert. Thanks to some commenter’s recommendation I watched for the first time the DVD version of Paris, Texas and awoke in the morning to the news of his death.

  61. @Steve Sailer
    @Clever User Name

    Gentrification doesn't really happen that fast in L.A.

    It's partly because the residential parts of slums never get that bad. I drove around Watts in 1977 and the residential parts were pleasant. So things don't get super bad and hence don't improve super dramatically except over a very long period.

    Is Boyle Heights in Repo Man -- the bridge? It's still kind of dumpy although not terrible. People are talking about it gentrifying, but more is said than done.

    I guess the north side of Silver Lake is finally fully gentrified.

    I presume Venice is fully gentrified, but people have been talking about that since 1980 or earlier.

    Hollywood is spiffier than in 1977, but it was never too bad.

    Replies: @StillCARealist, @Lugash

    Wasn’t Silver Laker gentrified by gay urban explorers way back in the late 1980s?

  62. Harry Dean Stanton looked like Billy Martin. Watch this Black Lives Matter mob member give a reporter the “Billy Martin Treatment” in St. Louis. Billy Martin used to love to go bananas with the umpires in hopes of influencing future calls to go to the benefit of Martin’s team:

  63. @Waylon 347
    Harry Dean was great in that little side role as Max Dembo's (Dustin Hoffman) outlaw / musician friend in Straight Time. Think that one is from '77 . His version of the old song "Walking Cane " around Max's patio table is classic .

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    +1 on Straight Time. Saw it when it first came out and I still remember it.

  64. @Anonymous
    Frank Vincent also died recently. Any thoughts, Steve?

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    Steve doesn’t have cable, so he probably didn’t see much of Vincent on The Sopranos. But Vincent had a memorable final scene on that show.

  65. @education realist
    He was the second guy killed by the alien, not the first. But he was the oldest cast member by five years. Ian Holm is about 86 and Tom Skerritt is 84. John Hurt died much younger than any of them. He was only 9 years older than Weaver and Cartwright.

    Stanton broke through with Paris, Texas. All of his iconic roles except Alien came after that. Great character actor.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen, @SonOfStrom

    Kind of hard to forget the first death in Alien. John Hurt reprised that scene in Space Balls a few years later.

  66. The Watsoning of Amy Wax continues

    http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2017/09/penn-law-students-try-to-get-amy-wax-banned-from-teaching-civil-procedure.html

    Reminder of the completely true hatefact filled op ed that set off the BLMs and SJW:

    —–

    [Bourgeois culture of the late 1940s to the mid-1960s] laid out the script we all were supposed to follow: Get married before you have children and strive to stay married for their sake. Get the education you need for gainful employment, work hard, and avoid idleness. Go the extra mile for your employer or client. Be a patriot, ready to serve the country. Be neighborly, civic-minded, and charitable. Avoid coarse language in public. Be respectful of authority. Eschew substance abuse and crime….

    All cultures are not equal. Or at least they are not equal in preparing people to be productive in an advanced economy. The culture of the Plains Indians was designed for nomadic hunters, but is not suited to a First World, 21st-century environment. Nor are the single-parent, antisocial habits, prevalent among some working-class whites; the anti-“acting white” rap culture of inner-city blacks; the anti-assimilation ideas gaining ground among some Hispanic immigrants. These cultural orientations are not only incompatible with what an advanced free-market economy and a viable democracy require, they are also destructive of a sense of solidarity and reciprocity among Americans. If the bourgeois cultural script — which the upper-middle class still largely observes but now hesitates to preach — cannot be widely reinstated, things are likely to get worse for us all.

    • Replies: @res
    @Lot

    Thanks. I think this comment makes a good summary:


    Not to pile on, but this has really sparked my curiosity. As a black person, I'd love to know what the the alleged comments were exactly so that I can properly evaluate them for myself.

    I cannot simply take Ms. Willig's sensibilities to be accurate or representative of me and my sensibilities as a black man on their face, because, I've learned that accepting charges of racism on their face without being presented with the evidence on which the charge results often means that, after a bit of digging, the charge turns out to be unwarranted at worst, or questionable at best.

    Now we learn that the source of the charge against Ms. Wax cannot "recall the specifics," so are we to still to believe the accusation and agree with the suggested consequences? I am not willing to do that at this point without more credible information. Sorry.

    Posted by: Anon | Sep 11, 2017 11:37:03 AM
     
  67. @theo the kraut
    Very OT, sorry to interrupt: there's some commotion about a "worse-than-nutty professor at a Manhattan college best known for preparing students for careers in law enforcement" who " was placed on administrative leave Friday for tweeting his excitement over the opportunity to teach “future dead cops.”"

    "Michael Isaacson, an adjunct professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, sent the offending tweet on Aug. 23."

    “Some of y’all might think it sucks being an anti-fascist teaching at John Jay College but I think it’s a privilege to teach future dead cops,” wrote Isaacson, who works in the school’s economics department.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/john-jay-professor-slammed-future-dead-cops-tweet-article-1.3498056

    https://twitter.com/VulgarEconomics/status/908739848248455170

    http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/faculty/michael-isaacson

    The corrupt bureaucrats reacted in the usual idiot way, of course:

    School president Karol Mason said the professor’s comments posed a danger to faculty and staff.

    “Today, members of the John Jay faculty received threats, and our students expressed concerns for their safety in the classroom,” Mason said. “Out of concern for the safety of our students, faculty and staff, we are immediately placing the adjunct on administrative leave as we continue to review this matter.”

    ==============================================

    http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/sites/default/files/faculty/cv/Public%20CV.pdf

    One of his "skills" is "FileZilla". That's a FTP-client built like the Windows Explorer to upload files to a server. It takes about one minute to learn how to handle it, if you're not braindead. I wonder about the rest of the qualifications as the rest of the CV isn't impressive either, to put it politely.

    I've the not-so-sneaking suspicion that the guy is a moron with a worthless degree--somebody knowledgeable should check his cv, get him fired for incompetence or at least ruin his career, same for those persons and institutions that graded, tested, and promoted him.

    Replies: @bomag, @Lot, @Dave Bowman

    Filezilla is also a simple FTP server. It isn’t very complicated if you like computers. But plenty of bright people cannot figure out anything to so with computer networks.

    The nore obvious sign he is dumb is his MA in econ from Howard.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  68. @education realist
    He was the second guy killed by the alien, not the first. But he was the oldest cast member by five years. Ian Holm is about 86 and Tom Skerritt is 84. John Hurt died much younger than any of them. He was only 9 years older than Weaver and Cartwright.

    Stanton broke through with Paris, Texas. All of his iconic roles except Alien came after that. Great character actor.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen, @SonOfStrom

    I suppose the first killed was technically the guy who took the egg to the face, but HDS was the first killed by the actual classic eggplant headed alien 🙂

  69. @oddsbodkins
    @SonOfStrom

    Harry and Yaphet were awesome as the disgruntled engineers in Alien. Really helped set the gritty feel of the ship.

    Replies: @SonOfStrom

    It really did. That whole “this-thing-looks-like-it-was-probably-broken-just-last-week” vibe was so much more realistic somehow than the Star Trek “everything is hermetically sealed” vision of the future.

  70. Great actor in a lot of stuff. He always struck me as creepy and out of place in Pretty in Pink as the father.

  71. @Anon
    @anonymous

    “The great Harry Dean Stanton has left us,”

    The 'great' thing about him was he was not great but added something to the movie. He didn't have much in looks, charisma, color, energy, or eccentricity. Nothing as iconic as Strother Bannon Martin's "What we have here is a failure to communicate".

    And I'm not sure what exactly he really added to certain movies, but you wouldn't want him gone once he's there. He adds something. Ringo factor. He didn't do much later but it wasn't the Beatles without him.
    Another thing. He had one of those faces that you can never forget. He had a small role in GODFATHER 2 but you sense him right away. (In contrast, I had problem remembering Rip Torn's face over and over. I'd forget what he looked like every time.)

    I think this side of him appealed to Lynch where reality is not what it seems to be. Dennis Hopper was the Mr. Hyde version of Harry Dean Stanton. If Hopper just sat quietly in a corner, he too would be a kind of nondescript person like Stanton. But he got the crazy virus. Still, his villainy in BLUE VELVET is creepy because it's so fragile and vulnerable. 'Baby wants to...'

    Replies: @Bugg, @Lagertha, @Pat Boyle

    He was like pepper. You add salt to the recipe because salt is a nutrient vital for life. But why do we always add pepper?

    Stanton was a constant ingredient in many, many movies. He seemed to be an ingredient that added some reality to the scenario. He just made the mix better.

    Who will now fulfill that role?

  72. @Lot
    The Watsoning of Amy Wax continues

    http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2017/09/penn-law-students-try-to-get-amy-wax-banned-from-teaching-civil-procedure.html


    Reminder of the completely true hatefact filled op ed that set off the BLMs and SJW:

    -----


    [Bourgeois culture of the late 1940s to the mid-1960s] laid out the script we all were supposed to follow: Get married before you have children and strive to stay married for their sake. Get the education you need for gainful employment, work hard, and avoid idleness. Go the extra mile for your employer or client. Be a patriot, ready to serve the country. Be neighborly, civic-minded, and charitable. Avoid coarse language in public. Be respectful of authority. Eschew substance abuse and crime….

    All cultures are not equal. Or at least they are not equal in preparing people to be productive in an advanced economy. The culture of the Plains Indians was designed for nomadic hunters, but is not suited to a First World, 21st-century environment. Nor are the single-parent, antisocial habits, prevalent among some working-class whites; the anti-“acting white” rap culture of inner-city blacks; the anti-assimilation ideas gaining ground among some Hispanic immigrants. These cultural orientations are not only incompatible with what an advanced free-market economy and a viable democracy require, they are also destructive of a sense of solidarity and reciprocity among Americans. If the bourgeois cultural script — which the upper-middle class still largely observes but now hesitates to preach — cannot be widely reinstated, things are likely to get worse for us all.

    Replies: @res

    Thanks. I think this comment makes a good summary:

    Not to pile on, but this has really sparked my curiosity. As a black person, I’d love to know what the the alleged comments were exactly so that I can properly evaluate them for myself.

    I cannot simply take Ms. Willig’s sensibilities to be accurate or representative of me and my sensibilities as a black man on their face, because, I’ve learned that accepting charges of racism on their face without being presented with the evidence on which the charge results often means that, after a bit of digging, the charge turns out to be unwarranted at worst, or questionable at best.

    Now we learn that the source of the charge against Ms. Wax cannot “recall the specifics,” so are we to still to believe the accusation and agree with the suggested consequences? I am not willing to do that at this point without more credible information. Sorry.

    Posted by: Anon | Sep 11, 2017 11:37:03 AM

  73. Anonymous [AKA "arvind smith"] says:

    Steve, this is off topic but it cries out for its own thread.

    You have frequently spoken about affordable family formation . According to this article, Pleasant family sized housing in safe locations is remarkably inexpensive in the major cities of Germany, particularly inexpensive when compared to London or the top cities of the USA.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/eamonnfingleton/2014/02/02/in-worlds-best-run-economy-home-prices-just-keep-falling-because-thats-what-home-prices-are-supposed-to-do/amp/

  74. Also passing away this week was Frank Vincent, the go-to actor for when you needed a tough mafioso. Probably best known for his role in “Goodfellas”, when he famously told Joe Pesci to “go get his f—– shine box”, with fatal results.

  75. anon • Disclaimer says: • Website

    R.I.P., Another young black body murdered by the man. Jenneka Jenkins …

    Authorities say Jenkins went to a party at the Crowne Plaza on Friday night, and that she went missing early Saturday morning. Martin came to look for her, but said hotel staff and Rosemont police declined to search for hours.

    Jenkins was finally found in the walk-in freezer and pronounced dead just before 1 a.m. Sunday. The medical examiner’s office has performed an autopsy but has said more tests are needed before it can pronounce a cause of death — a finding that could be weeks away.

    Jenkins’ death became the focus of fevered online conjecture, with thousands of people using Facebook videos evidently taken at the hotel room party to spin theories about what happened. Many contended that Jenkins had been murdered.

    Rosemont Mayor Bradley Stephens complained Wednesday that such speculation was impeding the investigation by forcing detectives to chase spurious leads.

    Community activists seized upon the case after Martin complained about what she believed was a lack of urgency in the initial response by the hotel and police. A crowd converged on the hotel Wednesday night to demand justice, confronting guests and telling them a teen had died there under mysterious circumstances.

    Despite Holmes’ statement, about 50 protesters gathered outside the hotel again on Thursday chanting, “No justice! No peace!”

    Burn this mother down!

  76. @SonOfStrom
    I always liked him best as the greasy union guy who gets killed by the alien first in Alien.

    Replies: @Clyde, @oddsbodkins, @jamie b., @Dr. Krieger

    Actually, John Hurt was the first killed.

  77. What was the large lump on his forehead (especially noticeable in “Big Love”)?

  78. @bomag
    @theo the kraut


    ...with a worthless degree
     
    He's listed as a PhD student, so I guess there is still a chance he won't get that degree and inflict even more harm on society.

    But he's at The New School for Social Research, which is a lefty propaganda mill, so they will toss him all the PhDs required to keep him from complaining.

    One paper listed was, "The Real Origins Of ‘Lone Wolf’ White Supremacists Like Dylann Roof". I wonder how many White Supremacists he interviewed for that paper.

    Replies: @Yak-15, @Ivy

    An enterprising and perspicacious rightist academic should attend the New School and make a pageant of debating the unhinged leftists. It could be the start of a brilliant careee if done properly.

  79. @Anonymous
    Harry Dean Stanton was in the U.S. Navy on a ship off Okinawa during the Battle of Okinawa in WWII. This was a pretty dangerous assignment. My father, who is two months younger than Stanton (and is still alive and well), was in the U.S. Army 77th Division in the Battle of Okinawa. This is the same battle featured in Hacksaw Ridge, with MOH-winner Desmond Doss, who was also in the 77th Division. Based on stories my dad has told me it was insane and brutal. My dad received 2 PH for injuries from grenades and bullets. Anyway, he said kamikazes were constantly targeting U.S. ships off Okinawa and he would hear and see the guns on the ships blazing and kamikazes being shot down and crashing into the water. But once he saw a kamikaze make it through and crash dead center on a Navy ship with a big explosion. He said that as bad as things were on land he wouldn't have traded it for being on one of those U.S. Navy ships off Okinawa.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Johann Ricke

    But once he saw a kamikaze make it through and crash dead center on a Navy ship with a big explosion. He said that as bad as things were on land he wouldn’t have traded it for being on one of those U.S. Navy ships off Okinawa.

    40% of the dead were Navy personnel, and some of the Army and Marine personnel dead might have been on the ships when the kamikaze planes hit.

  80. I remember Harry Dean Stanton as the crooked detective in “Farewell My Lovely” (1975).

    • Replies: @anon
    @David In TN

    The bloke Robert Mitchum punched in the kidney?
    That would've hurt..

  81. @bomag
    @theo the kraut


    ...with a worthless degree
     
    He's listed as a PhD student, so I guess there is still a chance he won't get that degree and inflict even more harm on society.

    But he's at The New School for Social Research, which is a lefty propaganda mill, so they will toss him all the PhDs required to keep him from complaining.

    One paper listed was, "The Real Origins Of ‘Lone Wolf’ White Supremacists Like Dylann Roof". I wonder how many White Supremacists he interviewed for that paper.

    Replies: @Yak-15, @Ivy

  82. @David In TN
    I remember Harry Dean Stanton as the crooked detective in "Farewell My Lovely" (1975).

    Replies: @anon

    The bloke Robert Mitchum punched in the kidney?
    That would’ve hurt..

  83. @Dmon
    A toast to Harry Dean - I'm cracking open a can of Drink.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Ya know somethin’ — You’re All Right !

  84. @Charles Pewitt
    I bet you Harry Dean Stanton's English ancestors came from the same part of England where John Hurt's people came from. Stanton seemed like some kind of ancient Brit of the pre-Roman type, so did Hurt. The internet says Hurt was born in Chesterfield, Derbyshire.

    Harry Dean Stanton looked like John Hurt and he had the same sad, wistful demeanor as John Hurt.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Might just be coincidence, but there’s a village called Stanton down at the south east corner of Derbyshire (Chesterfield being north east Derbyshire).

    If you look at the 1881 census, Hurt is a Nottingham/South/Yorks/Derbyshire name, Stanton (although a Derbyshire village) is not common there but in Bedfordshire and Worcestershire.

    http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/Map.aspx?name=STANTON&year=1881&altyear=1998&country=GB&type=name

  85. @SonOfStrom
    I always liked him best as the greasy union guy who gets killed by the alien first in Alien.

    Replies: @Clyde, @oddsbodkins, @jamie b., @Dr. Krieger

    Brett and Dallas were not killed by the Xenomorph. It grabbed them and took them back to its nest where it cocooned them. There they started to morph into eggs/facehuggers. Ripley recognizes Dallas but Brett is too far gone. She torches them both. This was a deleted scene that was added to the 2003 Director’s Cut. Its pretty sad TBH.

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Dr. Krieger

    They were right to delete that scene. It kind of messed up the pacing near the end, for one. And it also allowed the more developed life cycle ideas for the xenomorphs in the sequel (the ant-like society with the queen laying the facehugger eggs).

    Replies: @jamie b., @Dr. Krieger

  86. @theo the kraut
    Very OT, sorry to interrupt: there's some commotion about a "worse-than-nutty professor at a Manhattan college best known for preparing students for careers in law enforcement" who " was placed on administrative leave Friday for tweeting his excitement over the opportunity to teach “future dead cops.”"

    "Michael Isaacson, an adjunct professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, sent the offending tweet on Aug. 23."

    “Some of y’all might think it sucks being an anti-fascist teaching at John Jay College but I think it’s a privilege to teach future dead cops,” wrote Isaacson, who works in the school’s economics department.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/john-jay-professor-slammed-future-dead-cops-tweet-article-1.3498056

    https://twitter.com/VulgarEconomics/status/908739848248455170

    http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/faculty/michael-isaacson

    The corrupt bureaucrats reacted in the usual idiot way, of course:

    School president Karol Mason said the professor’s comments posed a danger to faculty and staff.

    “Today, members of the John Jay faculty received threats, and our students expressed concerns for their safety in the classroom,” Mason said. “Out of concern for the safety of our students, faculty and staff, we are immediately placing the adjunct on administrative leave as we continue to review this matter.”

    ==============================================

    http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/sites/default/files/faculty/cv/Public%20CV.pdf

    One of his "skills" is "FileZilla". That's a FTP-client built like the Windows Explorer to upload files to a server. It takes about one minute to learn how to handle it, if you're not braindead. I wonder about the rest of the qualifications as the rest of the CV isn't impressive either, to put it politely.

    I've the not-so-sneaking suspicion that the guy is a moron with a worthless degree--somebody knowledgeable should check his cv, get him fired for incompetence or at least ruin his career, same for those persons and institutions that graded, tested, and promoted him.

    Replies: @bomag, @Lot, @Dave Bowman

    “Isaacson”. Hmm…

    Let me guess: Leftie-liberal, White-hating, multi-cult-supporting, black-lies-matter-cheering, cultural-Marxist, communist-sympathising, cop-hating racist.

    Ummm… And, of course… Jew.

  87. @Dr. Krieger
    @SonOfStrom

    Brett and Dallas were not killed by the Xenomorph. It grabbed them and took them back to its nest where it cocooned them. There they started to morph into eggs/facehuggers. Ripley recognizes Dallas but Brett is too far gone. She torches them both. This was a deleted scene that was added to the 2003 Director's Cut. Its pretty sad TBH.

    https://youtu.be/8MCoefVgW9w

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy

    They were right to delete that scene. It kind of messed up the pacing near the end, for one. And it also allowed the more developed life cycle ideas for the xenomorphs in the sequel (the ant-like society with the queen laying the facehugger eggs).

    • Replies: @jamie b.
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    Actually, the scene was deleted to avoid an X-rating. It's unfortunate because it allowed for a great degree of premise decay within the franchise: the monster was originally conceived of as half eating, half raping its victims. Then the monsters devolved into eusocial insectoids, which is still interesting, but not as bizarre as the original premise. And now we discover that they're actually bioweapons engineered by humanoids.

    , @Dr. Krieger
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    I agree. That scene slows the movie down. However, the Xenomorph making eggs out of victims doesn't necessarily negate the idea of a Queen. The Xenomorph is so well engineered (as we know now) that in the absence of a Queen it can still reproduce. I'd even lay odds that one of the eggs made out of Brett and Dallas would have produced a Queen.

  88. @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Dr. Krieger

    They were right to delete that scene. It kind of messed up the pacing near the end, for one. And it also allowed the more developed life cycle ideas for the xenomorphs in the sequel (the ant-like society with the queen laying the facehugger eggs).

    Replies: @jamie b., @Dr. Krieger

    Actually, the scene was deleted to avoid an X-rating. It’s unfortunate because it allowed for a great degree of premise decay within the franchise: the monster was originally conceived of as half eating, half raping its victims. Then the monsters devolved into eusocial insectoids, which is still interesting, but not as bizarre as the original premise. And now we discover that they’re actually bioweapons engineered by humanoids.

  89. @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Dr. Krieger

    They were right to delete that scene. It kind of messed up the pacing near the end, for one. And it also allowed the more developed life cycle ideas for the xenomorphs in the sequel (the ant-like society with the queen laying the facehugger eggs).

    Replies: @jamie b., @Dr. Krieger

    I agree. That scene slows the movie down. However, the Xenomorph making eggs out of victims doesn’t necessarily negate the idea of a Queen. The Xenomorph is so well engineered (as we know now) that in the absence of a Queen it can still reproduce. I’d even lay odds that one of the eggs made out of Brett and Dallas would have produced a Queen.

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