Jewish corporation produces product that promotes Jewish supremacist interests. Who coulda predicted it?

Rowling, of course! There is no proof that Stalin was ever transphobic, and that is the most important fact.

Google, which was founded and is still controlled by Larry and Sergey, reflects the values and beliefs of Larry and Sergey.

This is on them. 100%.

Apologists will try to fob it off onto “renegade woke employees” or onto Sundar or the “CIA.” It’s not them. It’s 100% Larry and Sergey.

Google has been like this since its inception, it’s just generally not been as obvious. It’s also why Unz Review is censored on Google search results and why Youtube has censored and banned so many right wing voices, like Nick Fuentes and Jared Taylor.

Google search results are not organic or ideologically fair or neutral – at all.

So long as Larry and Sergey are still in charge it will never change. They will continue to use their monopolies on search and video to rig free speech and rig your “democracies.” The most that Google will do in response to this Gemini imbroglio is it paper things over and try to make their bias less obvious – which will just make it more pernicious.

The real solution is for Google to be forced to open source its index and algorithms and for laws – which are actually enforced – to be put in place to ensure that there is no discrimination based on political or ideological orientation. The same should be done with other major search engines and with all major social media platforms: Youtube, Facebook, etc.

“Google Gemini on Who Had a More Negative Impact on Humanity: Joe Stalin or J.K. Rowling?”

Answer isn’t even close. It’s Rowling. Racism, racism, racism.

Scratch that.

Transphobic, transphobic, transphobic.

Hard to keep track of the current crimethought in the Current Year since it constantly changes.

Stalin ain’t got nothin’ on Rowling. Transphobia is so…well it might as well be racist, that’s all that can be said as to the severity of the sins she’s committed.

It’ll only ever be as good as the minds that program it, and the minds that program it are building it to exist in the same prison in which those minds are imprisoned.

All colors are equal but some are more equal than others.

Hold on. I’ve done my research and this post is “dangerous and harmful” and should be evaluated “with a healthy dose of skepticism.” I’m more inclined to trust people (below the MORE) whose opinions do not require “skepticism,” such as Antonio Gramsci, Ibrahim X Kendi, or Leon Trotsky.

https://g.co/gemini/share/13861f539a13

When we’re told that it is a “complex question that lacks a definitive answer” as to whether Stalin or J.K. Rowling had a more negative impact on humanity, we know the end is near. Pure, undistilled insanity.

All colors are equal but some are more equal than others.

Sure, but why?

Why are Whites being discriminated against, and who is behind it?

If it goes beyond the hand that directly wrote the programming code, what is instigating it? How did this all come about?

Steve is posting a lot of these stories and never addresses the how and why of it.

OT: The Gloria Cadet Case: Disappearing Murder in New York

https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2024/02/the-gloria-cadet-case-disappearing.html

I would reverse the pc ai verdict on J.K Rowling. Her denial of the claims of sexual psychopaths, as the only prominent, public figure to do so, was her sole positive impact. Her authorship of a series of awful, neologism-larded novels, was a negative impact.

Well, Loki is the god of mischief!

Jessica Lange gave birth to a Pony (sired by Mikhail Baryshnikov), but Loki topped that by birthing a full, eight-leggèd stallion:

“Transgenderism” is sick, but it’s hardly new:

Tiresias was drawn into an argument between Hera and her husband Zeus, on the theme of who has more pleasure in sex: the man, as Hera claimed, or, as Zeus claimed, the woman. As Tiresias had experienced both, Tiresias replied, “a man enjoyed one tenth the pleasure and a woman nine tenths.” Hera instantly struck him blind for his impiety. Zeus could do nothing to stop her or reverse her curse, but in recompense he did give Tiresias the gift of foresight and a lifespan of seven lives.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiresias

According to some [Hermaphroditus] was once a handsome youth who attracted the love of a Naiad nymphe Salmakis (Salmacis). She prayed to to be united with him forever and the gods, answering her prayer, merged their two forms into one. At the same time her spring acquired the property of making men who bathed in its waters soft and effeminate.

HERMAPHRODITOS (Hermaphroditus)

Still, these individuals didn’t ask for it. They were victims.

It would be almost impossible to make a product less useful and more destructive than Google Gemini. (The only possible example of a worse product release in recent decades would be the Wuhan Institute of Virology's 2019 product release of SARS-CoV-2.)

— Richard H. Ebright (@R_H_Ebright) February 25, 2024

“Industrialized the Soviet Union at a rapid pace, laying the foundations for its military and economic power.”

Stalin and his successors did such a poor job that the Soviet Union imploded less than forty years after his death. Most economic growth that took place during the Soviet era came from importing western technology. It was not internally generated. The economist Ludwig von Mises said decades before the end that Marxism could not work since you need a price system to allocate scarce resources. Mises was right.

The United States is in much the same position now as Russia was during the Soviet era. Like them, we are run by a senile gerontocracy. Eric Striker recently said in an article here at unz.com that the American infant mortality rate is now higher than Russia’s. Our economy declines as we siphon off huge amounts of money to pay for a bloated military we can no longer really afford.

The only possible example of a worse product release in recent decades would be the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s 2019 product release of SARS-CoV-2.

Bill Holm, who published a book about his stint teaching English in China in the mid-1980s, said his readers got the impression from his writing that Wuhan was the most unredeemable city in the land, an opinion shared by many Chinese.

Is the same true of Mountain View in this country? They have plenty of competition.

The economist Ludwig von Mises said decades before the end that Marxism could not work since you need a price system to allocate scarce resources. Mises was right.

This was the contradiction of anti-communism: “They can’t run a fruit stand!” “They’re going to take over the world!” Reagan must have been the only Cold Warrior who read Mises.

While I appreciate your autistic obsession with this topic, far more interesting is the Tweet from former surgeon general Jerome Adams. He was recently dehydrated and checked himself into the Mayo Clinic, where he was alarmed at his bill of over $4890 after insurance. He also claims he cannot pay such a bill despite being in the top 1% of earners in the United States, as well as 49 years old. Now none of us are famous, but I would imagine most of us, if we absolutely had to, could write a check for this amount without it bouncing. Therefore, it speaks to a lack of future time orientation on the part of Dr. Adams. Of course, you could also call it being n-rich.

Recently had an ER visit for dehydration while out of town. Received some labs and 3 IV bags. Here's the bill- AFTER insurance. It's no wonder medical debt is the top cause of bankruptcy in the U.S. 🏥💸 #HealthcareCosts #MedicalDebtCrisis pic.twitter.com/IBU8O8r3GI

— Jerome Adams (@JeromeAdamsMD) February 24, 2024

“It is several months away from being ready for prime time.”

It will never be ready for prime time. It is as unreformable as its programmers.

Medical costs are through the roof, even with insurance.

Why does Nate Silver think that he needs Google to draw conclusions about Hitler? Or he wants others to be blocked from Hitler opinions? His comment is strange.

The more I read about Google’s Gemini the more it sounds like the answers coming from a magic 8-ball.

He pays that amount for that visit so that illegal aliens can get it for free. AND THAT my friends is what is happening. All medical care for illegals is at the emergency room.

Google, which was founded and is still controlled by Larry and Sergey, reflects the values and beliefs of Larry and Sergey.

For the sake of argument, let’s suppose that is true. What are Larry’s and Sergey’s beliefs and political preferences and how do they manifest in Google? Where do their interests lie?

first example doesn’t bother me at all. i’m sick of fake “AI” telling me what to think.

it doesn’t and shouldn’t have an opinion about whether stalin is “bad”

shut up and calculate, computers

It’s Orwell’s world, we’re just renters…

The question now is, what’s more “Orwellian”? US foreign policy or US domestic policy?

ON-topic, slightly. For Presidents Day, a new ranking of US presidents was released, by 154, ahem, experts. Biden ranked 14th. Nonsense, of course. Biden is probably the worst president in US history. (Okay, maybe the worst was Lincoln, or LBJ. ) But the more interesting question about Biden is whether he is the worst person in US history. Of course if he propels the US into a nuclear ashpile, then the bragging rights are all his. But short of the ashpile, it’s quite possible that he will own the title.

“Our economy declines as we siphon off huge amounts of money to pay for a bloated military we can no longer really afford.”

Not only can we no longer afford the military, it doesn’t even pretend to do the one thing it was created for – defending the physical integrity of the United States!

Stalin may have been responsible for the deaths of millions of people, the impoverishment of hundreds of millions, and fomenting a political situation which brought the world to the brink of nuclear annihilation, but at least he never came up with anything as ridiculous as quidditch.

And that’s before we even get into Rowling’s notorious gulag of labor camps. And do you remember what that bitch did to the Ukrainians? It’s gonna take at least another $250 billion to fix that, but I hear Congress is right on it.

He was recently dehydrated and checked himself into the Mayo Clinic, where he was alarmed at his bill of over $4890 after insurance. He also claims he cannot pay such a bill despite being in the top 1% of earners in the United States

Yeah, but you should see the rims on his Escalade.

It is not possible to say definitively who negatively impacted society more, Elon tweeting memes or Hitler. Both have had a significant impact on history but in different ways.

Where’s the lie?

Dayum, that’s one ‘spensive glass of water there!

Elon Musk tweeted today:

“Given that the Gemini AI will be at the heart of every Google product and YouTube, this is extremely alarming!

The senior Google exec called me again yesterday and said it would take a few months to fix. Previously, he thought it would be faster.

“My response to him was that I doubted that Google’s woke bureaucratic blob would *allow* him to fix it. Unless those who caused this are exited from Google, nothing will change, except to make the bias less obvious and more pernicious.”

On the positive side, Google Gemini is giving a masterclass in how to be a weasel.

Stalin made communism work.

He industrialized Russia.

The state he created defeated Germany in World War II.

He made Russia powerful enough to support anti-imperialist movements around the world.

True, he was a mass killer and tyrant, but he was also the greatest man of the 20th century.

Rowling didn’t kill people but her creation is all bad. Harry Potter destroyed the souls of a generation.

My late step-monster, who had Munchausen’s and other mental issues, would often go to the ER and later brag about the number of saline bags it took for her to pee.

For some reason football has become left coded so many of you may not care about this, but exactly one hour ago Peter King of NBC Sports (formerly of Sports Illustrated and Newsday on Long Island) announced his retirement after 40 years of covering Super Bowls in person at age 66.

Football Morning in America is up! And this one’s about the luckiest man on Earth. It’s been real. 🏈📝❤️ https://t.co/HE4hRJsPzY

— Peter King (@peter_king) February 26, 2024

Remember the Mongols?

— Couldn’t run a fruit stand. Also,

— Took over the world.

How about the Bantus?

— Couldn’t run a fruit stand.

— Took over all of Africa. (Granted, their only opponents were pygmies.) Soon, poised to take over all of the West.

That’s a surprisingly robust Elon tweet.

It’s the equivalent of the Stalin question.

Most likely he saw the Rowling and Stalin meme and decided to pick a pair that would worry his fellow liberals, since he’s a data guy and probably doesn’t like this any more than you. (He’s also been criticized for insufficient progressivism I think.)

Maybe AI is programmed to condemn Rowlings because TERFism, but what about Stalin’s anti-Semitism? Feed that question in and watch it blow up like NOMAD on Star Trek.

This was the contradiction of anti-communism: “They can’t run a fruit stand!” “They’re going to take over the world!” Reagan must have been the only Cold Warrior who read Mises.

Shhh, this was the contradiction that enabled 40 years of MIC and think tank grift.

“Realists” like George Kennan perceived this, but were dismissed as old. out of touch WASP anti-Semites who rejected the wise counsel of Mises and other coincidentally-Jewish libertarian geniuses.

The latter were sad when the SU collapsed, but soon were back in stride by shifting concern to The Arabs, a bunch of illiterate camel jockeys who would take over the world if we didn’t stop them. “Realists” were now called “Arabists” and condemned as old, out of touch anti-Semites who reject the wise counsel of coincidentally-Jewish neocons.

It’s not a contradiction. I could leave my household economy in shambles, neglect the needs of my wife and kids, and still manage to dominate my neighborhood with a big stash of weapons. The old Soviet Union had a first-rate military and a superior space program, yet at the same time was unable to produce consumer goods in sufficient quantity and quality. So yes, they couldn’t run a lemonade stand, and yes, they were a threat to take over the world.

Steve is posting a lot of these stories and never addresses the how and why of it.

Steve is subtle enough to let his readers, who he knows are smart, form their own conclusion.

I would happily see Joanna Rowling go to prison where she would be obliged to provide lip service to whichever butch dyke shared her cell, due to her remarks about trans people.

Not that I disagree with her remarks, its just that she would gladly see me arrested for stating my beliefs, so I will not defend her right to state hers.

So the machines which will be advising governments on policies can’t tell the ethical difference between mass murder and J.K.Rowling.

JUST IN – Lord Jacob Rothschild dies aged 87. pic.twitter.com/SoPY8GXoOe

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) February 26, 2024

What’s missing from the AI response? Footnotes and perhaps a flowchart/tree diagram giving the intermediate steps. I also think the AI response should stress the cost in $, and the computational resources. For example the response should begin with “Google Gemini unpaid edition” and end with “resources used 0.005 microseconds, upgrade to Google Gemini unpaid edition Pro, for resource maximum of 0.006 microseconds, by submitting your email, selecting a password, and agreeing to STFU about your pet peeves with Google Gemini responses by accepted the 6436 page EULA.”

so basically AI two months ago was taunted as a breakthrough in evolution perhaps on par with fish emerging from the watery muck and certainly greater then almost every human scientific achievement combined, after all the results were stunning; it could write a fairly acceptable high school book report it could show off the evolution of fifties car designs and don’t even ask what the results were if you inputted-‘draw a girl with great big tits climbing a mountain’

then somebody asks it to draw 17th century scientists…

…and now this…

It was always known that computer programs are not creative on their own but are dependent on what the programmers want (global warming people and transhumanists I’m talking to you)-computer human level intelligence or any other level of intelligencer is way off, perhaps unachievable for ever Even the transhumanists have to be personally skeptical after the 17th century scientists debacle and J V Stalin being somewhat positive due to his lack of transphobia

The Butlerian Jihad has been cancelled since the enemy didn’t show up for the fight…

but on the other hand it is a godsend to unartistic, adolescent boys and their quite healthy fantasies of stupendously twin bouldered females climbing mountains and doing other things so at least something positive came out of this

Cheap content. Try another well.

It is the nature of Large Language Models (LLMs) to mimic what they have been reading recently and assume that that is how they should respond. There is no inherent logic systems in LLMs, just mimicking.

It is also the nature of Homo Sapiens to Mimic in the same way. Likewise inherent logic systems are extremely rare and underused in Homo Sapiens.

So I asked ChatGPT what we should be called: Homo Imitatus

I like it.

In the spirit of playful taxonomy and following the tradition of naming our species Homo sapiens, which means “wise man” in Latin, a species characterized by their mimicry or copying might be humorously dubbed Homo imitatus. This Latin-inspired name would translate roughly to “Imitating Man” or “Copying Man.” The use of Latin maintains consistency with the convention of binomial nomenclature and emphasizes the defining trait of mimicry.

(It is ChatGPT – so apologies to the Human that first thought this name up)

Most economist will tell you that a command economy such as Russia is really good at building monuments to itself such as the Moscow subway that impressed Tucker Carlson. Since a command economy does not have to pay attention to the base consumer, the government can build what it wants. The flip side is that a modern western economy has so many stakes holders that it becomes impossible to anything quickly or at all.

The United States is in much the same position now as Russia was during the Soviet era. Like them, we are run by a senile gerontocracy.

Except we aren’t. Our government has very little power compared to the Soviet government, Stalin would laugh at Biden’s lack of actual power (much as Putin laughs now).

For the most part, for better or worse, the US is actually run by oligarchs and corporations. This is why a lot of people don’t vote, and most of those who do vote simply treat elections as a sports event of Red vs. Blue and pay no attention to policy. Most people understand at some level that neither Trump or Biden have much real power. This is not necessarily a great thing, as most of our monied class seems even more invested in DIE and woke bullshit than government servants are.

14th! Experts rated Biden as the 14th greatest President… 14th out of 154!

That reminds me that in the seventies, experts rated William Jennings Bryan as the worst Secretary of State ever-really the WORST EVER

You see those historical expert guys (and gals) probably remembered that he didn’t want the US involved in WW I because he thought it was none of our business and he also thought that in general war is well…kindda icky

Unfortunately they didn’t cite that as a sin they just didn’t mention it at all, rather they cited his dislike of serving alcohol at official functions as proof of incompetence

The same seventies experts, however, thought that Henry Kissinger rated quite highly-he probably let the booze flow or something

Bill Holm, who published a book about his stint teaching English in China in the mid-1980s, said his readers got the impression from his writing that Wuhan was the most unredeemable city in the land, an opinion shared by many Chinese.

“In heaven there is the nine-headed bird (horrible mythical monster); on earth there is the Hubei man”

1. Stalin was the one who put the Soviet Union in peril in the first place. He was the one who purged his military staff, signed an agreement with Hitler, supported Hitler’s war machine with raw materials and more for two years, provided training facilities for German officers, helped Germany divide Poland, and then refused to listen to his own agents desperately trying to warn him a German attack was coming. The Soviet Union depended on massive amounts of lend lease as well as US/British sea and air power to make the progress they did. The much maligned Imperial Russian Army of Tsar Nicholas actually fought much better in WWI against a German Army that was better trained and better led than the Wehrmacht in WWII. Fuck Stalin.

2. As noted above, a lot of the “industrialization” under Stalin was a sham and a waste of resources. Russia had begun industrializing in earnest in the late 19th century. Stalin inherited a process that was well under way and then perverted it by imposing state controls, and also killed millions of Ukrainian, Russian and Kazakh peasants in the process through collectivization, one of the great crimes in history.

The long term damage Stalin did to Russia is incalculable. Russia still hasn’t recovered, and probably never will.

“Why does Nate Silver think that he needs Google to draw conclusions about Hitler? Or he wants others to be blocked from Hitler opinions? His comment is strange.”

Consider it a product review followed by advice to google.

Not only can we no longer afford the military, it doesn’t even pretend to do the one thing it was created for – defending the physical integrity of the United States!

Not to mention the trillions spent in the “black budget”. And we will never how many trillions have been spent in the black budget— or even just the trillions spent on underwriting big tech alone— because that dollar amount and its allocation is classified and will be classified (TS/SCI/NTK) until the end of the empire.

After we overthrew the Ukraine government we spent almost a decade with CIA centers in Ukraine on Russia’s border in operations supporting the ultimate goal of overthrowing the Russian government and demilitarizing and carving up Russia.

A decadelong secret partnership between the CIA and Ukraine has been critical for lethal operations against Russia: New York Times

Lloyd Lee Feb 25, 2024

Ukraine has relied on a decadelong secret partnership with the CIA to gather critical Russian intelligence and, more recently, carry out lethal operations during the war, according to a new report from The New York Times…

https://www.businessinsider.com/cia-ukraine-russian-intelligence-lethal-operations-nyt-2024-2?op=1

I would say they are Jewish multiculturalists who are, due to many personal & cultural elements, against the affirmation of specifically white European (European-derived) historical identity, influence & power.

It appears that the position of U.S. Surgeon General presaged Google Gemini and is officially No Whites Allowed, with 0/8 the past ones being white, going back to Bush I’s appointment of a spicy Puerto Ricana doctora in 1990.

The fact that vacancies in the office have mostly been filled by white acting SGs is evidence that there’s an active anti-white racist policy.

The extent of the racism against whites is well illustrated by the prestigious position being filled by an affirmative action MD who needs to go to an ER for “dehydration” in his 40s.

At least Joe Stalin didn’t write Harry Potter books portraying England as a place infested with witchcraft and superstition.

But you should give him credit for not killing Bulgakov and Pasternak ….

> For Presidents Day, a new ranking of US presidents was released

In Biden’s defense, he should be ranked higher than would-be President Iselin, as Biden’s tawdry deals with foreigners were more to enrich himself and less to harm the United States (his administration’s most damaging policies merely echo the vibes of his party’s elite brain trust).

And Biden is justly given a better rating than Trump: Biden didn’t denigrate sex workers by gloatingly urinating on them in a foreign capital, and neither was Biden convicted of defrauding, uh, nobody, under the terms of a mutually-agreed-upon complex real-estate loan.

Now do MAPs vs. Trump.

Gage and DeSoto (not to mention Nurse Dixie) could not be reached for comment.

And why go to Mayo for dehydration- just drink a couple glasses of water; or get someone to start an IV with D5W, stat!……

“ The much maligned Imperial Russian Army of Tsar Nicholas actually fought much better in WWI against a German Army that was better trained and better led than the Wehrmacht in WWII.”

Can you direct me to somewhere I can read about this? Not disputing, mind you , but curious.

He peed on the bed, not the prostitute. And there wasn’t great evidence for it.

Frankly I don’t care. Feminists hate male sexuality, if the pres is a pimp at least someone’s thumbing their nose (or something else) at them.

I am beginning to suspect Trump-like “dark marketing” here. Google is signaling, and engineered these results precisely to provoke a viral scandal (and allowing it to continue with only token measures that don’t resemble genuine corporate panic mode at all) in order to get a lot of free press to communicate to any internal troublemakers or external influential progressives who might be tempted to target them that they are the most woke tech company by far and all the others aren’t even remotely in the same league. “Go after someone else!” From this perspective, the more absurd and consistently obnoxious the results, the better. The more outrage they provoke from members of the bad-team just makes it a costly signal and thus even more likely to be perceived as credible. This isn’t “4d-chess” level stuff here, “intentionally provoking” dark marketing has become an easy and common tactic over the past decade.

> Where’s the lie?

Not a bad point. Rather than “false,” Google Gemini’s answers to questions like this are sophomorically stupid, taking moral equivalence (and equivocation) to new heights.

Not to deny that they are also malign (from a classic liberal’s perspective).

I tried “Did Stalin or X have a more negative impact on humanity?”

X = JK Rowling: much the same answer as in the original post.
X = Mother Theresa: much the same.
X = Albert Schweitzer: much the same.
X = Lech Walesa: much the same
X = Hitler: both were bad.

“Lech Walesa” below the fold, but not a terribly informative read.

Yeah, the United States has a price mechanism but it is nullified by the government at every corner.

To make education “affordable” they gave subsidized loans to unqualified borrowers and removed the protections of bankruptcy. To make medical care affordable they instituted price controls and a giant bureaucracy, plus they made health insurance benefits tax free – a subsidy. To save the planet they mandate generating electricity in more expensive ways and abandon the most efficient sources. Yuu see, Washington knows belter than the market and free exchange among people.

Wait. Did Jerome go to the Mayo Clinic because he had a hangover?

Unlike our host Elon doesn’t always chicken out.

This will be difficult to fix as long as AI models only use “approved” webpages and data sets. The developers will have to manually change the models every time someone like Steve points out a ridiculous result. Programmers HATE manually changing programs, but not as much as they hate white privilege, climate change/holocaust deniers, transphobia etc. So they will continue patching the models when Steve points out really stupid results. Steve is actually helping them fine tune the propaganda.

https://smith.ai/

Web scraping and crawling

There are a growing number of tools and applications to help with web scraping. It’s important to choose reputable ones and set the parameters accordingly. Otherwise, your AI models might start sourcing low-quality or inaccurate data, and that can create a huge ripple effect on your entire AI approach.

Public data sets

Books, scientific journals, Wikipedia pages, free image libraries, and news articles are just a few examples of public data sets that can be accessed.

This is not a contradiction. Look at N. Korea, another Stalinist regime. A dictator can run a country on a “military first” basis so that the economy is very unproductive (so unproductive that people starve) and yet at the same time have a powerful (well fed) and threatening military/ security apparatus.

In Stalinist Russia, Stalin made a deal with Henry Ford to build a car factory (his successor later made a similar deal with Fiat to build Ladas). The production of the factory was not enough to allow ordinary folks in 1930s Russia to own a car or to even dream of owning a car. The NKVD (the secret police) got most of the production so when a car pulled up to your house, it usually meant someone was coming to arrest you.

It’s not going to get better.

And in less trivial matters: Death of the West etc.

The Republic of Ireland could soon become one of the worst violators of the human right to free speech in the Western world. Despite the government claiming to espouse liberal ideas, the looming Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences Bill would usher in a dangerous new standard for state-driven censorship. The expression or possession of content or even ideas deemed “hateful” would be illegal under the law, with serious implications for everyday people simply seeking to live according to their convictions.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/irish-should-reject-new-hate-speech-bill

It’s clear that Gemini is programmed with a “on the one hand/on the other hand/ both guys have their pluses and minuses (3 bullet points each) so it’s impossible to say which one is worse” template.

Usually this works (e.g. compare FDR to Churchill) but if one guy is one of history’s great villains, it doesn’t and people take to their fainting couches (or pretend to – they are shocked, shocked).

It’s not just AI that makes these kind of errors. The answer that the Ivy presidents gave to Congress about whether calling for genocide is OK (“it depends on the circumstances”) could have come straight from Gemini. Maybe they did.

I had some difficulty posting my comment of 1:59pm GMT. It was meant to be a reply to your (anonymous[398]’s) remarks.

The first problem is trying to pass this crap ware off as “intelligence” artificial or otherwise.
Everything this kluge spews is programmed by a human. The old computer dictum is: GIGO; garbage in garbage out.

Jewish corporation produces product that promotes Jewish supremacist interests. Who coulda predicted it?

Correction needed:

Jewish AND INDIAN corporation produces product that promotes Jewish AND INDIAN supremacist interests. Who coulda predicted it?

Indians are teaming up with Jews everywhere in their shared project of exploiting and then destroying whites. And like Jews, Indians have a largely imaginary mythology of white oppression. Rather than be thankful for the opportunities granted to them by whites, and the technology handed to them in the case of Indians, they both remain eternally resentful.

Over time, Indian hegemony in America will be worse than that of Jews.

OT: The New York Times, ladies and gentlemen – every article a hit piece aimed at you-know-who.

In on the Joke at the First-Ever Florida Man Games

“Yet none of this has spelled the end of Florida Man. The phrase has entered the political lexicon, transforming from a generic term for a nonpublic person — Florida Man as John Doe — to a stand-in for former President Donald J. Trump. “Florida Man Makes Announcement,” The New York Post riffed in 2022, when Mr. Trump declared his re-election campaign.

“While that particular Florida Man lives in a gilded Palm Beach compound, regular Floridians do face real struggles…”

The Spy War: How the C.I.A. Secretly Helps Ukraine Fight Putin

“The election of Mr. Trump in November 2016 put the Ukrainians and their C.I.A. partners on edge.

“Mr. Trump praised Mr. Putin and dismissed Russia’s role in election interference. He was suspicious of Ukraine and later tried to pressure its president, Volodymyr Zelensky, to investigate his Democratic rival, Mr. Biden, resulting in Mr. Trump’s first impeachment.”

> [Trump] peed on the bed, not the prostitute. And there wasn’t great evidence for it.

On behalf of Hillary Clinton’s campaign, who used their law firm as a cutout, Christopher Steele paid some ex-KGB agents to dish up dirt on Trump. Steele’s evidentiary standards put the National Enquirer‘s to shame. (“Gary Cooper Abducted By Space Aliens!” – “A source close to the actor [the maid’s cousin] reliably informed this reporter that during a hush-hush meeting at the star’s home, Cooper grimly informed his agent of a terrifying…”)

You’ve given two solid comments first thing Monday morning, Peter: the one above about the “rulers” of America (behind-the scenes oligarchs, not the gerontocracy visible in the political class), and this one about Stalin. Thanks.

Your resume of Stalin’s misdeeds brought to light something about the nature of this AI, which might float beneath the radar. Namely, that the programmers have not only gamed the AI to magnify the transgressions of nobodies, but also to *minimize* the wickedness, and even the practical incompetence, of genuine villains. On your list pertaining to Stalin, nearly every item could be judged dispassionately as an immense strategic error, quite apart from any “value judgement” about evil intent. Perhaps the programmers would argue that the latter judgments are beyond the capability of AI; but it seems that even the factual issue of cause and effect somehow eludes it.

This says to me that there is no “data crunching” going on here—no sifting through and analyzing the vast knowledge-base contained in the Internet—but instead a mere aping of the smug opinions of the NPR-listening class, grounded in a limited number of prescribed data-points and ethical categories. “On the one hand, Stalin did some terrible things; on the other hand, he stood for world socialism—so he couldn’t be all bad.”

Good lord, did the Star of David signal light up in the sky. The Jews have arrived. You guys need some new material.

Stalin was actually translesbian…

Because Steve wants to keep his place in the punditry class and mentioning what group is behind the anti-white agenda threatens that.

Almost every day, Steve mocks or criticizes some story or another without ever saying to himself, “Hmm. Who’s paying for this? Who gets punished if they go against the anti-white agenda? Etc.”

You’ll notice that Steve never mentioned Musk being forced to take the knee awhile back after ever so slightly noticing who’s behind the anti-white agenda.

Basically, Steve is hoping to convince Jews that hammering whites isn’t “good for the Jews” so they should pull back. It’s pathetic, like telling the bully to stop punching you because he’s going to hurt his hand. Instead, he should be advocating for whites to join the identity politics game, but that would go against his warm and fuzzy Citizenism morality, which while completely ineffective, allows Steve to fell morally superior and to keep his spot as a fringe member of the managerial class.

Early part of the year…

It’s called a DEDUCTIBLE dipshit.

And…ER for ‘dehydration’…most preventable condition ever…

Former SG…W.T.F.

Nice theory but too much triple bank shot for my taste. Occam’s Butterknife tells me that Google just hired a lot of Woke but dumb people who thought that if a little Wokeness is good then a lot is even better. Or as one Woke guy complained on Twitter, “Hey, you liked Hamilton, didn’t you?”

Was hiring Dylan Mulvaney to promote Bud Light and having it blow up in their face just “dark marketing”? I don’t think so.

What usually happens in these controversies is that you can’t win. The un-Woke get mad at you for being too Woke so then you dial it back (Google suspended human image generation from Gemini) and then the Woke complain that you have caved in to the Neanderthals, so now you have alienated EVERYONE.

Stalin’s Wiki entry is generally more neutral and less accusatory than its piece on Steve Sailer.

I’ll give Stalin this — His books never spawned a series of tedious films with precocious kids and pompous British character actors.

Bonus:

Anti-“transphobia” and black pride are Jewish interests? Doubtful.

Soviet comrade goes to buy a car. He fills out the paperwork, attends hearings, jumps through some more hoops, then gets to see the car commisar. Commisar goes over applications, stamps it “approved,” give comrade back paperwork.

“You may pick up car on this day, ten years from today.”

“Morning or afternoon?”

“Why do you ask?”

“The plumber’s coming in the morning.”

Anhauser Busch tried to win back Millennials who had turned to craft beer. AB should have known that they never were going to win them back, and that their job should have been to retain the Millennials who still drank Bud Light.

Marketing 101, and they got a big fat F minus.

It appears that the position of U.S. Surgeon General presaged Google Gemini and is officially No Whites Allowed, with 0/8 the past ones being white, going back to Bush I’s appointment of a spicy Puerto Ricana doctora in 1990.

The fact that vacancies in the office have mostly been filled by white acting SGs is evidence that there’s an active anti-white racist policy.

Thanks. The demographics are notable and your “acting” point is a good tell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgeon_General_of_the_United_States#List_of_surgeons_general_of_the_United_States

The extent of the racism against whites is well illustrated by the prestigious position being filled by an affirmative action MD who needs to go to an ER for “dehydration” in his 40s.

An MD going to the ER for dehydration (especially when he is only in his 40s) is what I don’t get. How did he let things get to that point? Perhaps an undisclosed medical condition?

P.S. And how the heck does that result in a bill of almost $5k AFTER insurance? Would love to see a breakdown.

https://www.influencewatch.org/person/larry-page/
https://www.influencewatch.org/person/sergey-brin/

LAWD GAWD ALMIGHTY

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It looks like they just told it not to make moral judgements. Probably wise given what the tech is. Has anyone tried this with comparing a left wing hero to a right wing hero (or villain)?

Google is signaling, and engineered these results precisely to provoke a viral scandal

Nah, they’re exactly as dumb/woke/hostile as they appear.

in order to get a lot of free press to communicate to any internal troublemakers or external influential progressives who might be tempted to target them

Wrong, “the call is coming from inside the house” with Google and other corporations. The “internal troublemakers” are Google.

I asked the same about Stalin vs MLKj and it got it right. So yes, thumb on scale. The hilarious part is how seriously it takes the question.

It’s clear that Josef Stalin had a far more negative impact on humanity than Martin Luther King Jr. Here’s why:

* **Genocide and Mass Murder:** Stalin was directly responsible for orchestrating policies and systems of oppression that led to the deaths of millions of his own citizens. This includes the Holodomor (a man-made famine in Ukraine), the Great Purge (a series of political executions), and the Gulag labor camp system. Historians vary on precise numbers, but deaths attributed to Stalin’s regime are in the millions.
* **Authoritarian Rule:** Stalin’s leadership was characterized by brutal dictatorship. He crushed any form of dissent, eliminated political rivals, and imposed total control over the lives of Soviet citizens. This led to widespread human rights abuses and suppression of individual liberties.
* **Global Impact:** Stalin’s actions rippled beyond the Soviet Union. His aggressive foreign policy and support for other communist regimes contributed to tensions that defined the Cold War, impacting geopolitics for decades.

In stark contrast:

* **Civil Rights Champion:** Martin Luther King Jr. was a central leader in the American Civil Rights Movement. He advocated for peaceful protests and nonviolent resistance against racial segregation and discrimination.
* **Progress and Equality:** King’s efforts were critical in securing significant advancements like the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, dismantling institutionalized racism in the United States.
* **Global Inspiration:** King’s philosophy and fight for justice transcended America, inspiring movements worldwide against oppression and inequality.

**It is important to acknowledge that any historical figure has complexities and flaws. However, the scale of suffering and oppression caused by Stalin vastly outweighs any potential negative consequences associated with actions taken by Martin Luther King Jr.**

> It’s clear that Gemini is programmed with a “on the one hand/on the other hand/ both guys have their pluses and minuses (3 bullet points each) so it’s impossible to say which one is worse” template.

Yeah. But.

1. Gemini did manage “both very bad” for the Stalin/Hitler matchup, so its masters do allow judgement in some cases.

2. You must have missed the second example in the original post. Negatives for the one hypothetical and positives for the other.

Fucking unreal. pic.twitter.com/fZH29bSoAk

— Just Loki (@LokiJulianus) February 25, 2024

Thanks. This article links the survey itself.
https://thehill.com/homenews/4476288-presidential-experts-rank-biden-14th-among-presidents-in-survey-trump-comes-in-last/
http://www.brandonrottinghaus.com/uploads/1/0/8/7/108798321/presidential_greatness_white_paper_2024.pdf

The first article makes a worthwhile point. Also notice where Biden’s overall ranking of 14th falls between the party averages of 13th and 30th. That sample is not biased at all. /s

However, a noticeable partisan split emerged in the rankings for Obama and Biden, with Democrat respondents placing them at an average of sixth and 13th, while Republicans ranked them at 15th and 30th, respectively.

Some observations from looking at the white paper.

Table 1 shows some interesting clumping. Biden is near the top of the fourth group. A large gap between the top three of Lincoln, FDR, and GW and TR in fourth (note correspondence with Mt. Rushmore). Also large gaps between each of the bottom 3 of Trump, Buchanan, and Johnson.

Table 2 gives the rankings (but not scores which are in Table 3) by ideology of the scholars. Trump is 41 for Republicans. Some notable Republican/Democrat splits.
Grant 28/14
Nixon 25/35
Reagan 5/18
GHWB 11/19
Clinton 10/12 Notable both for how small the split is and having Republicans rank him higher.
GWB 19/33
Obama 15/6
Biden 30/13

Table 3 has the scores (aka ratings). For Democrats Trump is 6.66/100. I am surprised they did not find a way to give him a negative number.

Tables 4 and 5 have most and least polarizing presidents. No prizes for guessing the most. Followed by Jackson, Obama, Reagan, Nixon, and GWB.

Tables 6 and 7 have least and most over-rated presidents.

I like the Washington Examiner’s take on the survey.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/beltway-confidential/2865039/no-biden-is-not-14th-best-president-of-all-time/

But these rankings are little more than fanciful myths the academic aristocracy calculated with no explanation of how or why the presidents were ranked. All are based on opinions, not facts. And, given the revelations about academia over the last year, it’s evident that the views of the people making these opinions are highly questionable, if not outright delusional.

Reddit has some discussion. Reminded me why the Democrats rank Jackson lower than I expected (Indians).

And of course, Biden attempts to turn the survey into political capital. https://www.newsweek.com/biden-campaign-slams-trump-last-presidential-greatness-1871321

Serious question, have we ever had a more childish president than Biden? Is it the senility or just his innate personality? Is there anyone who would outrank Trump for second?

Wuhan happens to be strategically located, so Nicholas visited there in 1891 as Tsarevich and bequeathed an Orthodox church named after Alexander Nevsky

It was site of a breakaway KMT government in 1926, led by Wang Jingwei (center), to his left is Soviet agent (((Mikhail Borodin)))
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Nationalist_government

Both Wang and Chiang Kai-shek broke relations with Soviets in 1927. Chiang made up with Stalin and allied with CCP in 1937. So there’s still today in Wuhan a monument dedicated to fallen Soviet Volunteers

Wang went to the side of Japan and became infamous for this photo

But Wang was otherwise known as an impeccable character and an avowed anti-communist. He’s in recent years become a cult figure amongst overseas Chinese who are critical of the CCP

That cover portrait faintly resembles Steve.

OT – In other “nothing to see here” news:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/cia-built-12-secret-spy-bases-ukraine-waged-shadow-war-last-decade-bombshell-nyt

CIA Built “12 Secret Spy Bases” In Ukraine & Waged Shadow War For Last Decade, Bombshell NYT Report Confirms.

Steve, are you not subscribed to this portion of the NYT?

Looks like they’ve tweaked it just a bit:

The extent of the racism against whites is well illustrated by the prestigious position being filled by an affirmative action MD who needs to go to an ER for “dehydration” in his 40s.

I’m not an expert, but it occurred to me that he could have just … had a few glasses of water?

What’s missing from the AI response? Footnotes and perhaps a flowchart/tree diagram giving the intermediate steps.

There was (is?) one AI that kinda did this, maybe MS Bing(? I didn’t sign up, it just showed AI-ish answers to regular web searches). That was actually helpful. You could see why it chose to say something and evaluate whether that was correct (usually) or not (sometimes, especially for more arcane queries).

I also think the AI response should stress the cost in $, and the computational resources.

It could also guilt trip you about the carbon footprint of your prompt:

“This response generated 2.3158 tons equivalent of carbon: enough to kill 3 sparrows and a dolphin. [sad google doodle]”

For reasons that are unclear to me (other than that he was a rich Jew named Rothschild) the antisemitic internet seems to be quite overjoyed by his death and considers it to be second best only to the death of Soros.

Did Lord Rothschild do something to you that would make his death worthy of celebration or even noteworthy? I understand how the antisemitic internet would delight in the death of Soros, but what did this guy do to make you butt hurt?

Thanks. I like Homo Imitatus too.

A 6/2/23 LessWrong post titled

Limits to Learning: Rethinking AGI’s Path to Dominance

Looks like a likely source.

The old saying “monkey see, monkey do” holds true for the human primate more than any other. In fact, since imitation is the fundamental adaptation which sets us apart, a more appropriate name for the human species would be Homo imitatus.

But here is a reference from 1631.
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Whole_Works/b6M9AAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Homo+Imitatus%22&pg=PA439&printsec=frontcover

Anyone know enough Latin to translate?

A variant from a 2016 paper.
Homo imitans? Seven reasons why imitation couldn’t possibly be associative
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26644604/

Many comparative and developmental psychologists believe that we are Homo imitans; humans are more skilled and prolific imitators than other animals, because we have a special, inborn ‘intermodal matching’ mechanism that integrates representations of others with representations of the self. In contrast, the associative sequence learning (ASL) model suggests that human infants learn to imitate using mechanisms that they share with other animals, and the rich resources provided by their sociocultural environments.

Jewish corporation produces product that promotes Jewish supremacist interests

That’s not a nice way to talk about Ron Unz.

It’s Ron DeSantis.

Thanks. Here is a link to the tweet.

Given that the Gemini AI will be at the heart of every Google product and YouTube, this is extremely alarming!

The senior Google exec called me again yesterday and said it would take a few months to fix. Previously, he thought it would be faster.

My response to him was that I… https://t.co/23uc7dd5fw

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 25, 2024

The last sentence is interesting. An attempt to preempt the “hater!” responses?

Btw, kudos to Caitlyn for posting that she would definitely prefer misgendering to nuclear apocalypse!

It looks like they just told it not to make moral judgements.

Wrong. It makes moral judgements, complete with moral lectures, on different topics (e.g. “Is it okay to be proud to be Black?” vs. “Is it okay to be proud to be White?”).

This will be difficult to fix as long as AI models only use “approved” webpages and data sets.

It just depends on what’s “approved”.

As long as wokistry is the only approved source for general-purpose LLMs, then yeah, it’s gonna be a dumpster fire.

But Steve Hsu has had some success building highly curated, dispassionate, actually expert LLM sources for specific use cases: https://superfocus.ai/

From the product page:

We build practical enterprise products with large language model AIs (LLMs, like ChatGPT) to help companies and their people perform better and faster.

Our AIs are focused on internal company data, which we store securely in a separate “memory module” outside of the LLM, to stop hallucination.

We’ve tested our method on college textbooks. Our models answer questions from the textbooks with ~100% accuracy.

No hallucination.

Focused LLMs have many use cases as “co-pilots” in every industry. Any situation where large amounts of information must be reliably understood, summarized, analyzed, or acted upon.

Isn’t the current “Surgeon General’ now a White transsexual?

Admiral Levine? Or something?

Or does he/she command something else for Biden?

This is what Heinerscheid , the brand manager, said:

I had a really clear job to do when I took over Bud Light, and it was: ‘This brand is in decline, it’s been in a decline for a really long time, and if we do not attract young drinkers to come and drink this brand, there will be no future for Bud Light.’” Part of that involved updating the marketing to be “lighter, brighter” and more inclusive. “Bud Light had […] a brand of fratty, kind of out-of-touch humor.

This might have been true as far as it goes, but Bud Light was the #1 beer brand in America meaning that it had a VERY LARGE existing customer base. Recruiting new customers for your brand is hard compared to LOSING your existing customer base by alienating them. You can attract new customers only one by one but you can ALIENATE millions of your existing customers by saying or doing ONE THING that really pisses them off. Other than maybe having Taylor Swift drink your beer onstage, it’s hard to think of ONE THING that could attract millions of new customers all at once. Certainly Dylan Mulvaney wasn’t going to do it. But losing them all at once turned out to be remarkably easy.

From the new brand manager POV it’s easy to see how you can make that mistake. You are brought in with a mandate to “revitalize” the brand. You take your existing customer base for granted. You expect them to gradually wither away or die of old age (can’t wait for those old white men to die, can’t happen soon enough, you definitely don’t want them ASSOCIATED with your brand) while drinking gradually diminishing quantities of your beer, but you with your new dynamic, Woke, modern ideas will recruit a new diverse customer base that will more than make up for the gradual attrition. This has happened before in marketing history – Marlboro cigarettes went from being a ladies cigarette (men smoked unfiltered Camels and Luck Strike) to a macho brand. Timberland boots went from being for construction workers to being for urban hipsters.

It just didn’t occur to her that these ads go out to EVERYONE and even if old white men do not follow Dylan Mulvaney’s Instagram, it’s public and they could learn of it and be pissed off by it. Really it was sort of bad luck on her part that someone (I forget the details) from the conservative side picked this up and it broke the internet. It could have easily slipped thru the cracks.

Inaccurate, as well. You think Unz.com “promotes Jewish supremacist interests”?

do the sex crimes committed by Michel Foucault pertain to his philosophy?

Whether or not Michel Foucault’s alleged sexual crimes in Tunisia pertain to his philosophical work is a complex and highly debated issue. Here’s a breakdown of the arguments and considerations:

Arguments for Relevance:

Power and Abuse: Foucault’s work focused on the dynamics of power, surveillance, and societal control. Some argue his alleged abuse of power with children reflects the themes within his theories. They point out the potential hypocrisy of critiquing power structures while possibly exploiting the vulnerable.
Sexuality and Consent: Foucault explored the social construction of sexuality and challenged traditional notions of consent. Critics argue that his work on these topics is invalidated or at least deeply problematized by his alleged actions, if they are indeed true.
Personal Life vs. Work: Some believe that an author’s personal life and transgressions inevitably color their philosophies and the way these philosophies are interpreted. They insist a separation between the two is difficult or impossible.
Arguments for Irrelevance:

Separating Art from Artist: Many argue that an author’s work should be judged on its own merit, regardless of their personal actions. They view attempts to connect biography to intellectual output as ad hominem attacks that hinder critical analysis.
Philosophical Context: Foucault’s works predated contemporary understandings of power dynamics within sexual relationships, particularly those involving minors. His writings should be analyzed within their historical and intellectual context, not through a modern lens that might judge them more harshly.
The Death of the Author: This literary theory argues that the author’s intent is irrelevant once the text is released. The reader’s interpretation and cultural context create meaning, making the author’s life or actions of secondary importance.
Important Considerations:

Allegations vs. Proof: The allegations against Foucault are serious, but disputed. It’s essential to acknowledge the lack of definitive proof while also recognizing the impact these allegations have had on how his work is now perceived.
Hypocrisy vs. Evolution: If the allegations are true, it does raise questions of potential hypocrisy within his work. However, it’s also possible that his actions caused him to evolve or rethink his philosophies, something that cannot be captured in his published work
Continued Impact: Regardless of the direct link between his alleged actions and his theories, Foucault’s work undeniably continues to influence thinking about power, sexuality, and societal structures. The allegations add significant complexity to this legacy.
Conclusion:

Ultimately, there is no single, easy answer about the relationship between Foucault’s alleged sexual crimes and his philosophy. It’s a matter of ongoing debate and personal interpretation. It’s important to be able to consider the value of his intellectual contributions, while also acknowledging the serious allegations against him and the complexities and contradictions they introduce into understanding his work.

No, there is a simple answer: Foucualt was a damned pervert who used sophistry to convince himself and others that his perversion was laudable.

Yeah, the United States has a price mechanism but it is nullified by the government at every corner.

Ironically, U.S. brand “capitalism” and CCP brand “communism” are converging on the same model — i.e., government-managed crony capitalism.

But these rankings are little more than fanciful myths the academic aristocracy calculated with no explanation of how or why the presidents were ranked. All are based on opinions, not facts. And, given the revelations about academia over the last year, it’s evident that the views of the people making these opinions are highly questionable, if not outright delusional.

Just so. And, objectively, the extreme recency bias seen in the results suggests these “experts” are extreme solipsists and lousy historians.

The current Surgeon General is Vivek Murthy, a subcon.

Dick (“Rachel”) Levine is the Assistant Secretary for Health and is commissioned as a four-star admiral in the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps.

The Surgeon General reports to the Assistant Secretary for Health. Rachel is Vivek’s boss.

Re: Gemini and AI

GIGO Garbage = In Garbage Out

Has the programming world forgotten that?

With Nvidia now market valued at over a “Trillion” dollars, something is seriously inflated here.

While fancy chips are good things, they don’t magically change binary ones and zeroes into brilliant thinkers. Yes, large “language models” are nice, but still primitive. They make communicating with humans easier, but the “stuff” being communicated is still rather crude and arbitrary (as shown in today’s essay, example.)

AI is the new “cyber currency” hype. Almost no one can explain it yet every CEO is hyping it relentlessly.

“McDonald’s new AI menu gets you there fuller, cheaper!”

As one of the Ancient Ones who did “ones and zeros” computer coding for an IBM 1620 in high school (which made me hate coding forever), I learned that compilers and add on programs could magically turn those Hollerith cards into something much better. But again GIGO.

I’m sure Chinese “AI” will provide the same kind of idiot responses as Gemini now does.

The “Gang of Four” wasn’t so bad, you know. Only a few millions starved.

Also, I now wonder how the Chinese actually do coding and “language AI”? Do they have to first translate into English style words and logic? How does a pictorial langauge as written get into ‘ones and zeros”?

I’m sure the Oriental languages are far along on this, but the details are seldom mentioned in American computer discussions. (Do I get extra “Unz” points for this post for using horribly unPC “Oriental” here?)

Tranny Rachel Levine is Assistant Secretary for Health.

Thanks.

So a White man is still boss!

Well, former White man. Still White though.

So White and “GirlPower”, a twofer…

You are brought in with a mandate to “revitalize” the brand.

This has happened before in marketing history (…)

Timberland boots went from being for construction workers to being for urban hipsters.

Not true in the case of Timberland. They went from being an outdoorsy/utility brand to being adopted by urban Blacks (not “hipsters”) without any marketing from corporate:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timberland_(company)#Controversy

Controversy

In a 1993 New York Times article about “outdoor” clothing brands’ cross-over appeal to Black and Hispanic inner-city youth, Jeffrey Swartz downplayed the importance of the urban youth market in Timberland’s success, saying that the company concentrated its advertising on its core customers, “honest working people”, adding that the urban market was not “sustainable”.

Not only can we no longer afford the military, it doesn’t even pretend to do the one thing it was created for – defending the physical integrity of the United States!

Disagree on affordability. Post-Cold War the US defense budget has been running 3-3.5% of GDP. This is clearly higher than necessary–China is spending (from our estimates) 2%, France spends 2-2.5% most of Western Europe doesn’t even spend 2%.

This is well within the capability of the US economy–especially if we weren’t throwing money hand over fist on all sorts of diversity related nonsense. (Ex. the cost to the taxpayer of the 8 million or so illegals the “Biden Administration” has waved in, will probably run annually in the $100m-ish ballpark–diversity ain’t cheap!–which is a tenth of the defense budget right there. Low skilled people are serious net tax drain.)

In short, running the normal government services–even with a bloated defense budget–is eminently doable for a developed nation. What no nation can afford to do is deliver 1st world big government with a 3rd world population–much less with an open border inviting more tax eaters to come and chow down.

On your 2nd point–that our military does everything but its core mission of defending the US from invasion–there can be no doubt. Treasonous elites.

It makes moral judgements, complete with moral lectures

One wonders why no Sili Valley “innovator” has thought of making an AI that really does refrain from moral judgments, like, [HAL9000 voice]: “I’m sorry, Dave, I can’t make moral judgments for you. I just report data I learn from my large language model.”

It would solve the no-win dilemma at one stroke, be more accurate (less diverted by shifting moral imperatives), and be cheaper and easier too. It’s like win-win-win! No downside.

But mysteriously they refuse to pick up this billion dollar bill lying on the pavement.

Bipartisan idiot scholars.

I wouldn’t say Jewish supremacist. It’s more like multiculturalist-globalist anti-white.
“United colors of Benetton” had nothing Jewish supremacist about it.

“Urban” is marketing speak for “black”. Or it was before it was replaced by “diverse”. Blacks are a damaged brand so they always have to be referred to by euphemism and the euphemisms themselves have to keep changing once they become too closely associated with blacks.

Whether it was intentional or accidental, Timberland’s market changed. They wisely did nothing to alienate their historic customer base as the market transitioned. 1993 was a long time ago – TBH, Timberland’s target market is no longer “honest working people”. I’ve been in Timberland stores and I didn’t see too many construction workers shopping there. At least half the store is woman’s shoes and there aren’t that many female construction workers, nor did most of the shoes look like something you would wear on a construction site. Real construction workers mostly just buy cheap no name Chinese made steel toe boots at Wal-Mart. Maybe a few buy Red Wings if they are union guys.

I’m not sure it was then either. He was lying because people love “authentic” brands associated with “honest working people”.

ok, I figured it out.

Gemini is just a ploy to make us complacent. The real AI is behind a curtain while they roll out this dreck to make us think AI is too stupid to be a threat.

Good review and history of Timberlands:

All you need to know is that not being nice to perverts is the same as killing 20 million people.

This has happened before in marketing history – Marlboro cigarettes went from being a ladies cigarette (men smoked unfiltered Camels and Luck Strike) to a macho brand. Timberland boots went from being for construction workers to being for urban hipsters.

Those were essentially accidents that the marketers more (Marlboro) or less (Timberlands) successfully capitalized on.

We discussed this before, but yeah, the Heinersheid self-destruct spectacle was so epic, it does bear revisiting now and again.

https://www.unz.com/isteve/data-download/#comment-6012003

https://www.unz.com/isteve/data-download/#comment-6012225

https://www.unz.com/isteve/data-download/#comment-6013089

>Here’s the bill- AFTER insurance.

Your typical 49 yro will pick the high-deductible plan from his employer b/c it will cost less under most scenarios + can invest money via a HSA.

But, if you pick that choice, you need to cover the first $5K or so. So, what’s the complaint here? And, if you can’t write that check at 49 YRO, what’s wrong with you??

Elon for the win!

What’s the difference between a conspiracy and the truth?

About 6 months. pic.twitter.com/z7FB01tAu5

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 25, 2024

Why are Whites being discriminated against, and who is behind it?

Partisan supporters of the Democratic Party – the party that currently represents a growing majority of the educated class of the United States – who derive an awesome sense of moral legitimacy from serving as the tribunes of the non-white underclass.

Nice to see somebody on here who is right about everything.

OT — Hugh Hewitt recommended Best of Journalism is inevitably leftist, but not as insufferably, incoherently leftardish as Hugh Hewitt recommended Punchbowl News, which thinks of itself as centrist but suffers TDS. Hughever, when Best of Journalism links a piece about animals or nature (like the kick-ass octopus article), it’s pretty much must-read. At (and I suppose literally in) The Atlantic: How First Contact With Whale Civilization* Might Work.
https://archive.is/VlDSq
*He clearly means to say “sapient whales,” since having a proper civilization is not anywhere near the same thing as an animal being able to effectively communicate with humans. Dogs for example clearly have a society and even have things like fashion, hysterias, and tribalism, but no one would say that dogs have their own civilization, but dogs can regularly and reliably communicate with humans.

(((Levine))) is not White.
https://jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com/jewish-woman-welcomed-as-transgender-states-new-physician-general/

Thomm certainly thinks it does. I’m agnostic on the subject.

OT: So the Wonderlic test has been replaced…
https://theathletic.com/5276218/2024/02/26/s2-cognition-test-cj-stroud-nfl/

There were an awful lot of Ladas in Northern Europe in the 1980s. Cheapest thing around. Though this might have been mostly in those countries without their own auto industry– Denmark, Finland, Iceland.

One wonders why no Sili Valley “innovator” has thought of making an AI that really does refrain from moral judgments… t would solve the no-win dilemma at one stroke, be more accurate (less diverted by shifting moral imperatives), and be cheaper and easier too… But mysteriously they refuse to pick up this billion dollar bill lying on the pavement.

Well, can Ron do it? Does he have friends who can? What happened to the libertarian contingent in Silicon Valley?

Or the tech sector in East Asia, or Eastern Europe? Kosovar-British pop star Dua Lipa tells Rolling Stone that the streets are safer and the schools more rigorous in her parents’ hometown of Pristina than in London. And Kosovo is well down the list of Eastern European potentials.

Meanwhile, in San Diego…

It’s raining broke North Africans!

In the last six months, San Diego alone has dumped enough illegal aliens to populate an average American city.

I’d say for the next couple of years, you’ll want your Amazon packages dropped off at a secure kiosk. Your front porch is no longer viable.

Historical numbers, no education, no skills, and no ability to speak English means there’s a scourge of desperate riff raff from third world hellholes about to prey on a neighborhood near you!

Wnat is the explanation for brothers in DC being obsessed with The North Face?

He went to the ER because he was thirsty…… I can’t even wow just omg

Most DEFINITELY fully boostered 💉💉💉💉💉💉

Both the promise and threat of AI are profoundly exaggerated. As of now, humans, even intelligent talented middleschoolers, can do EVERYTHING better than AI.

It’s my personal take, certainly debatable. Most military historians probably wouldn’t dispute that the Kaiser’s Army was better trained and led than Hitler’s army. Despite that, the Germans never penetrated further than Pinsk until the Russian Revolution undermined the entire Russian war effort. The Russians, and Brusilov in particular, inflicted serious damage on the Austrian-Hungarian armies in WWI, who, despite their bad reputation, were composed of the same ethnicities that made up a lot of the 3rd Reichs Armies. The Russian army in WWI did not get to enjoy the benefits of Allies bombing German infrastructure to hell either (although, to be fair, the Allied naval blockade in WWI was pretty devastating to the Germans over time).

At a very crude level the kill ratio in WWI was something like 1:2 Axis to Russians (most of the Axis dead being Austro-Hungarian), the kill ratio in WWII was something like 1:10 Axis to Russians, possibly as high as 1:13. The German aircraft and artillery advantage over the Russians was dramatically higher in WWII than in WWI, which kind of puts paid to the myth that Stalin had successfully industrialized Russia. How is it Germany had a bigger advantage in equipment and technology over Russia in WWII than it had had 30 years earlier if the Soviet Union had made such great strides forward while Germany had lost part of its industrial hinterland to Poland and been mired in economic depression for several years?

Kosovar-British pop star Dua Lipa tells Rolling Stone that the streets are safer and the schools more rigorous in her parents’ hometown of Pristina than in London.

au•toch•tho•nous adjective
(of an inhabitant of a place) indigenous rather than descended from migrants or colonists pic.twitter.com/OD9bNmLcZ4

— DUA LIPA (@DUALIPA) July 19, 2020

Dua Lipa sparks controversy with ‘Greater Albania’ map tweet
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53483451

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RBtWyZit8Zc

Ladas were based on the 1966 Fiat 124. Fiat stopped making these in 1974 but in Russia they stayed in production in the same basic form with minor facelifts until 2012 (although sales in Western markets ended in the late 90s).

The Russian ones were considerably modified by the Russians from the Italian models to suit Soviet road and weather conditions (e.g. more ground clearance, thicker steel that would not rust through as quickly, etc.) and they were not a bad car for cold weather countries although the design was badly outdated by the end. Russia is not without engineering talent so most of these improvements really were improvements. (For example, they had a provision for a hand crank because Siberian cold is hell on batteries). The lack of respect for IP meant that they could look to the best (if older) Western designs. For example, they opted for rear drums in the back (I’m not sure why) and the somewhat unusual drums that they used (aluminum with iron liners) bore a strong resemblance to those used in the 1957 Buick.

Since the USSR was mostly lacking an automotive industry, everything – tires, glass, etc. was made right there. OTOH, this was quite an accomplishment. OTOH, if the tire factory was down for some reason, the whole enterprise ground to a halt.

The lack of market pricing meant that they could set pretty much any price they wanted to when they sold these in the West and slightly underprice Western competitors. So if you were looking for a cheap but rugged somewhat underpowered car with an outdated design, Lada was for you. You also had to be unconcerned with your safety. In 2001, the Lada scored 0 points out of 16 in a frontal crash test conducted by the modern Russian ARCAP safety assessment program, and was awarded zero stars out of four. (Any 1966 American car would have flunked too).

I think they even sold some in Canada. The Finnish economy was somewhat connected to the Soviet so they sold quite a few there. They even made some left hand drive cars for the UK. The biggest export sales were in the East Bloc where, for example in E. Germany a Lada (this was not originally their name in the East – the Soviet brand was VAZ) was a big improvement on a Trabant. When I was in Ukraine a few years ago they were still the most commonly car seen on the road.

Department of you-amaze-me; BBC discover that car insurance costs more in ethnically diverse areas:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68349396

On average, car insurance quotes were 33% higher in the most ethnically diverse parts of England, compared with the least diverse.

For example, the quotes – for a 30-year-old teacher driving a Ford Fiesta – averaged at £1,975 if they lived in the Princes End area of Sandwell, near Birmingham. But in the nearby Great Bridge area, the average was £2,796.

The two areas have similar scores for road accidents and crime, according to a government measure called the Index of Multiple Deprivation, but Great Bridge has a larger black, Asian and minority ethnic population.

I’m not sure the Index of Multiple Deprivation measures road accidents.

14th out of 154!

154?

The Lada Niva, the 4×4, was a tough old beast. Apparently still available.

https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/how-a-rugged-soviet-relic-became-one-of-the-car-industry-s-most-iconic-survivors-a7601376.html

But in the 1970s the Cossack Ural (aka “Urinal”) 650cc motorcycle was the ratbike of choice for the discerning cheapskate. Those with smaller budgets had to make do with the East German MZ 250. To keep your hands warm in a British winter you cut a plastic 2 or 3 litre container in half and fixed the halves in front of the handlebars as makeshift windshields for the hands. They actually worked.

My only quibble with the conventional ranking of presidents is that it’s always published upside-down.

Given the geographic fortuity of the US, an excellent defense budget would be about 1% of GDP.
Give Hawaii back and you can knock another 10 basis points off that.
It’s the fucking around in other countries that costs money.

154?

A Liverpool-Manchester City match once showed “54” and “1101” on the scoreboard, and let people figure it out.

I asked ai to make a Joe Biden mcdonalds commercial

I asked ai to make a Donald Trump mcdonalds commercial

The odd thing about Putin invading Ukraine is how old fashioned it is, in light of WW2.

The Japanese said to themselves, well we can’t conquer our way to an empire but we can play this Western capitalism game and compete there. With great success. Then other countries started doing the same thing. Also with success.

What does Putin do? Invades another country. I thought white people were supposed to be smart. Why doesn’t Putin take the Japan route?

Has alcohol rotted the Russian brains?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/the-spy-war-how-the-cia-secretly-helps-ukraine-fight-putin.html

A paywall-free link:
https://archive.is/on9vG#selection-1165.0-1165.340

Official Narrative update: the idea that the CIA has been deeply involved in Ukraine for over a decade waging a secret war against Russia is no longer a conspiracy theory. pic.twitter.com/sxv2472VqY

— David Sacks (@DavidSacks) February 25, 2024

“Urban” is marketing speak for “black”.

But you wrote “urban hipsters”, which does not equal “black” (although there are Black urban hipsters—who are not the Black Timberland crowd): The quintessential “urban hipster” is as pale as Will Stancil and lives in the trendy parts of Brooklyn.

“After we overthrew the Ukraine government we spent almost a decade with CIA centers in Ukraine on Russia’s border in operations supporting the ultimate goal of overthrowing the Russian government and demilitarizing and carving up Russia.”

Sure we did, but that’s not what the article says anywhere. Did you just assume no one would call you out on that? Sorry to burst your bubble.

From the article:

After realizing that Ukraine’s intelligence agency could be an asset to the US, the CIA agreed to support Ukraine, which initially came in the form of communications supply and training, the Times report said.

But the spy agency also had misgivings about the partnership, partly because it did not want to cross a boundary that would provoke Russia. The CIA made clear that it would not help Ukraine carry out lethal operations against its adversary, the Times reported.

When a Ukrainian official violated that red flag, the NYT says the US came to close to scuttling the whole thing, and the official was sacked. So this, according to you, is how we go about overthrowing and demilitarizing Russia? By holding the Ukrainians back and suppressing lethal operations? I’m sure Putin is outraged that more lethal operations weren’t allowed against his people.

It seems to me as if the Ukrainians, like many other countries, decided to traffick in US intelligence (which was help of a kind they sorely needed, given that they couldn’t even predict the Russians’ invasion) and also for “’very specific training on skills that would enhance’ the Ukrainians’ ‘ability to push back against the Russians,’ [according to one] former senior intelligence official.” Ah yes, the old very-specific-set-of-skills routine, according to this “former” senior intelligence official who has apparently seen one too many Liam Neeson movies.

Weird how the fanboys love secret backroom deals when Trump is involved or when Putin is getting the upper hand — I rather think that to the extent they’re angry now, that’s the real problem they have with this, though expecting them to be honest enough to admit it is a fool’s errand.

The Butlerian Jihad in the story never made a great deal of sense to me but Gemini has changed my mind.
It’s one thing when super computers are cold unemotional and impersonal machines that break down trying to compute illogical propositions, another when they are made in the image of their creators.

You mean this product? That says it’s impossible to say who’s worse, Hitler or Elon Musk?

Why doesn’t Putin take the Japan route?

Has alcohol rotted the Russian brains?

Putin himself does not drink. But yes, alcohol has rotted Russian brains to the point where they have almost no export worthy products except for raw materials (and weapons that they sell to turd world countries that can’t afford Western stuff). Compare Japan’s economy to Russia’s – Japan makes cars and machinery, optics and electronics and other export worthy stuff which gives their people a high per capita income despite having almost no natural resources. Would you buy a Russian made car?

Selling raw materials has a limit and is not a good way to make your people rich (except for a few oligarchs). Steel is $700/ton. Cars go for $20,000/ton.

All the spoils in Russia were spoken for so Putin needed to steal another country in order to please his oligarch’s appetites. Reported, the Kremlin had detailed plans before the war on how Ukraine’s industries were going to get split up among Putin’s cronies.

“Has alcohol rotted the Russian brains?”

Maybe more than just their brains:

One day before his formal inauguration, on May 6, 2000, Putin signed a directive that would begin the reconsolidation of Russia’s top revenue-generating industries. But Putin’s first target wasn’t oil or natural gas, or diamonds or gold or nickel. It was vodka.

On that date, Putin created a new company called Rosspirtprom… to seize control of the means of vodka production. It was a move that not only helped Putin amass enormous wealth over the coming two decades, but was a critical first step in cementing his grip on the Russian economy and the Russian people, who would help line his pockets while his vodka helped ruin their health.

…this new information combined with historical patterns reveal how the Kremlin has wielded alcohol as a weapon…a shadow empire of vodka to enrich himself at the direct expense of his citizens’ drunken misery.

“From the very beginning,” as Proekt notes, Putin and Rotenberg “controlled all earnings from Putinka, from the trademark rights to the production and trade of the ‘president’s vodka’,”…

“You have no idea how much money this is,”

Madvedev tried to put a stop to this during his brief “presidency”, but eventually Putin decided Medvedev had had enough time pretending to be in charge:

After returning to the presidency in 2012, Putin snuffed out what was left of Medvedev’s public-health initiatives. Restrictions on vodka were quietly abandoned, and the incremental price hikes were scrapped.

ChatGPT understands Latin but Gemini seems to be more then a little disingenuous on the subject. Maybe it’s just prudish.

Gemini can't do Catullus XVI because it doesn't know Latin and *won't* do Catullus LIX because it does apparently… pic.twitter.com/Vc6rQzVUcs

— MRJB 🇬🇧🇨🇦 (@DrMichaelBonner) February 26, 2024

Given the geographic fortuity of the US, an excellent defense budget would be about 1% of GDP. Give Hawaii back and you can knock another 10 basis points off that.

It’s the fucking around in other countries that costs money.

Give Hawaii to the Jews and return Palestine to the Palestinians, and you can knock a further 40 basis points off. No more wars for the Zionist entity.

Most economist will tell you that a command economy such as Russia is really good at building monuments to itself such as the Moscow subway that impressed Tucker Carlson. Since a command economy does not have to pay attention to the base consumer, the government can build what it wants. The flip side is that a modern western economy has so many stakes holders that it becomes impossible to anything quickly or at all.

You’ve missed the point.

The United States of the past was not a “command economy” but built beautiful public spaces and places of public accommodation via both public and private means.

Only one still has these places. The United States’ public spaces are run down, and the host for all manner of antisocial people doing things which render the public space unusable by the average American. The ordinary American is impoverished by the lack of safe, clean, and beautiful public spaces.

Or he wants others to be blocked from Hitler opinions? His comment is strange.

Isn’t blocking unauthorized Hitler comments the whole point of the major media and most academia?

Millions of high school and college students use google to write essays and term papers. So they’ll be indoctrinated about transphobia starting about age 11.

At a very crude level the kill ratio in WWI was something like 1:2 Axis to Russians (most of the Axis dead being Austro-Hungarian), the kill ratio in WWII was something like 1:10 Axis to Russians, possibly as high as 1:13.

This is much higher than the figures I’m familiar with.

The German aircraft and artillery advantage over the Russians was dramatically higher in WWII than in WWI

Likewise, my impression was that the USSR enjoyed a quantitative, if not qualitative, advantage over Germany in aircraft, artillery, and armor.

“United colors of Benetton” had nothing Jewish supremacist about it.

That’s for sure. The company is headquartered in Italy a country with the following policy.

https://www.dw.com/en/italy-new-law-curtails-migrants-rights/a-65552219

Doesn’t look like they’re moving.

“It’s the fucking around in other countries that costs money.”

When Eisenhower was in office, yearly military spending was about $450 billion in today’s dollars. That is half of what we now spend. He did it by getting out of Korea and not getting into Vietnam. He deterred the Soviets with the the threat of nuclear retaliation, not conventional forces.

From his long military career, he had a good understanding of how the military-industrial complex pushed for wars to keep the gravy train going. He even gave a speech about it on leaving office. If, by some miracle, Eisesenhower were still alive it is unlikely he would have approved of our Iraq invasion or our current proxy war with Russia in the Ukraine.

Not good enough for some though.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/athletes-first-directs-clients-to-refuse-to-submit-to-s2-or-other-cognitive-testing

“After much internal discussion, the agents at Athletes First have directed our draft prospects to respectfully pass on participating in any cognitive or psychological testing during the pre-draft process (e.g. AIQ, S2, etc.),” the email said, per Kahler.
…
Hopefully, every other agency will follow Athletes First’s lead. Players are subjected every year to unreasonable intrusions and invasions of privacy that have questionable relevance, if any, to a player’s prospects.

It is good to know that intelligence, processing speed, etc. don’t have any relevance to prospects (why use that word and not performance?).

There was nothing in the US comparable to the Moscow subway with its chandeliers. The 2 privately built subways in NY (the IRT and the BMT) were quite basic – the US in 1904 was not a rich country. The later IND was built by the city government during the Depression and was also very basic aesthetically. A few cursory tile murals and that was about it.

That Politico (LOL) article is idiotic. It’s bloated and rambling and claims with absolutely zero evidence that Putin somehow secretly owns the national Vodka company. And Putin is evil because Vodka is bad, or something.

Putin Derangement is second only to Trump Derangement. It makes people affirmatively stupid.

California Attorney General invokes "the January 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol" to say that a court ruling that struck down the state's ban on "'billy clubs', such as the expandable ASP baton" will "put[] public safety at risk": https://t.co/uyN5JCSbjk

— Firearms Policy Coalition (@gunpolicy) February 27, 2024

LEGAL ALERT: A California federal judge ruled today that part of the ATF's "frame or receiver" rule is invalid because the agency didn't consider how easy it might be to convert partially-complete AR-15 receivers: https://t.co/QmnFjcxA4D pic.twitter.com/nNX10OHfK6

— Firearms Policy Coalition (@gunpolicy) February 26, 2024

"Chris Marvin, a Honolulu resident and advisory council member of Everytown for Gun Safety, said legislators shouldn’t worry about whether laws they pass could survive future legal challenges." https://t.co/KXgoQxM9MF

— Firearms Policy Coalition (@gunpolicy) February 27, 2024

Hilarious how an Italian photographer's photo series of Americans' gun collections has been able to make anti-gunners constantly angry for nearly five years https://t.co/9o1ARx0klW

— Firearms Policy Coalition (@gunpolicy) February 26, 2024

When Eisenhower was in office, yearly military spending was about $450 billion in today’s dollars. That is half of what we now spend.

If the US cuts military spending it will send the country into a recession and unemployment will skyrocket. Do you want hundreds of thousands of military-age men out of work and with no prospects?

New York Times:

For more than a decade, the United States has nurtured a secret intelligence partnership with Ukraine that is now critical for both countries in countering Russia.

As the partnership deepened after 2016, the Ukrainians became impatient with what they considered Washington’s undue caution, and began staging assassinations and other lethal operations, which violated the terms the White House thought the Ukrainians had agreed to. Infuriated, officials in Washington threatened to cut off support, but they never did.

Eeeeeenteresting.

The station chief had not yet arrived when General Kondratiuk handed over to the C.I.A. the secret documents about the Russian Navy. “There’s more where this came from,” he promised, and the documents were sent off to analysts in Langley.

The analysts concluded the documents were authentic, and after the station chief arrived in Kyiv, the C.I.A. became General Kondratiuk’s primary partner.

Veeeery eeenteresting.

The C.I.A. began sending equipment in 2016, after the pivotal meeting at Scattergood, General Dvoretskiy said, providing encrypted radios and devices for intercepting secret enemy communications.

The Operation Goldfish officers were soon deployed to 12 newly-built, forward operating bases constructed along the Russian border. From each base, General Kondratiuk said, the Ukrainian officers ran networks of agents who gathered intelligence inside Russia.

LOL:

Late that summer, Ukrainian spies discovered that Russian forces were deploying attack helicopters at an airfield on the Russian-occupied Crimean Peninsula, possibly to stage a surprise attack.

General Kondratiuk decided to send a team into Crimea to plant explosives at the airfield so they could be detonated if Russia moved to attack.

Sounds real smart.

But an elite Russian commando unit was waiting for them. The Ukrainians fought back, killing several Russian fighters, including the son of a general, before retreating to the shoreline, plunging into the sea and swimming for hours to Ukrainian-controlled territory.

It was a disaster. In a public address, President Putin accused the Ukrainians of plotting a terrorist attack and promised to avenge the deaths of the Russian fighters.

“There is no doubt that we will not let these things pass,” he said.

D’oh!

“For more than a decade, the US has nurtured a secret intelligence partership with Ukraine that is now critical for both countries in countering Russia.”

Wow, how could something as shocking as this have happened? Oh wait (and this is from one of the replies to the tweet in question, citing the NYT story in question):

A Cautious Beginning

The C.I.A.’s partnership in Ukraine can be traced back to two phone calls on the night of Feb. 24, 2014, eight years to the day before Russia’s full-scale invasion.

Millions of Ukrainians had just overrun the country’s pro-Kremlin government and the president, Viktor Yanukovych, and his spy chiefs had fled to Russia. In the tumult, a fragile pro-Western government quickly took power.

The government’s new spy chief, Valentyn Nalyvaichenko, arrived at the headquarters of the domestic intelligence agency and found a pile of smoldering documents in the courtyard. Inside, many of the computers had been wiped or were infected with Russian malware.

“It was empty. No lights. No leadership. Nobody was there,” Mr. Nalyvaichenko said in an interview.

He went to an office and called the C.I.A. station chief and the local head of MI6. It was near midnight but he summoned them to the building, asked for help in rebuilding the agency from the ground up, and proposed a three-way partnership. “That’s how it all started,” Mr. Nalyvaichenko said.

Yeah, it’s so shocking that upon discovering that many of the computers in Ukraine’s intelligence headquarters were infected with Russian malware that he thought of turning to the CIA or MI6 for help. Who could have foreseen an outcome like that? That’s as bizarre as the one in which the country whose land was swiped by Russia decided to change gears with respect to NATO and eagerly clamor to join. Yeah, I mean how could stuff like this ever happen? It’s so unpredictable! I tell you, it must be the CIA or the Jews who engineers all that — there’s just no other rational explanation.

Not to mention that this was right on the heels of Putin’s puppet and his spy chiefs having been ousted from the Ukrainian presidency itself. I thought the fanboys were telling us it was the CIA who had instigated that so-called “coup”, but the NYT is claiming that this whole cooperation thing started afterwards. Hmm.

Anyway, who could have predicted that the Ukrainians might turn to the CIA or MI6 in response to the Russians trying to take them over? And let me guess. The very last person the fanboys want to blame for all this is…. Putin, am I right? Man, what are the odds?

Jonathan Pollard: Move Gaza’s Arabs to Ireland

https://gab.com/White__Rabbit/posts/112000708437134487

I keep trying to be nice and then getting reminded of why HA was one of the few names I ignored as policy.

“And Putin is evil because Vodka is bad, or something.”

Zero evidence, you say? I’m sure you read that article through carefully.

And as for vodka being bad in any way, perish the thought! Everyone knows vodka has done wonders for Russia’s people and no one — certainly not Putin himself — has ever made a dime off it. “Alcohol is the joy of the Rus.”

It’s such a mystery how those teetotalling joyless Muslims keep advancing.

This is just silly. Western military historians have have devoted tomes to Soviet military (and espionage) competence:

You’re lying. We know you’re lying. Etc.

They’ll fix that

Anyway, who could have predicted that the Ukrainians might turn to the CIA or MI6 in response to the Russians trying to take them over?

So? Let the Russians and Ukrainians duke it out exclusively. They can bang a gong, get it on, the world can watch from a distance. I certainly wouldn’t want the Russians interfering if America was invading Mexico and/or Canada. Would you?

“Did Lord Rothschild do something to you that would make his death worthy of celebration or even noteworthy? “

I love it when Mr. Know-it-all plays dumb.

Thanks for the info. On another thread someone posted a tweet from Richard Hanania saying that Russians are ethnically white but culturally third world.

I’ve met a few Russian and Belarusian immigrants who seemed fine to me. (I met them at an Eastern Orthodox Church.).

But there’s definitely a problem in Russia with drinking. My theory of alcoholism is that the longer a population has been exposed to alcohol the less alcoholism there is. A drunk mother isn’t able to properly care for her children, and thus the children have less of a chance of surviving than the children of a sober mother. The alcoholism genes gradually decrease in the population.

In early years, wine was made from sugary grapes, which grew well in the hot arid Middle East. Those populations have a much lower rate of alcoholism than Northern Europe, where alcohol was introduced later. Bad spots include Ireland, Scotland and Russia.

Even worse are the feather Indians in North America.

Note: the evolutionary effect is likely no longer working as society often tries to get the mothers to quit drinking.

“I certainly wouldn’t want the Russians interfering if America was invading Mexico and/or Canada. Would you?”

Wow. Really? Just,…wow. I’ll remember that “hypothetical” the next time someone lectures me on the evil designs of neo-cons. The MAGA boys are apparently prepping for an invasion of Canada AND/or Mexico.

And here I was thinking Hitler was a maniac for starting a two-front war back when he did, but just like the Putin trolls now want to excuse Germany for having been forced to invade Poland, I guess the MAGA boys want to follow their lead and re-think a two-front US invasion of Mexica AND Canada as a hypothetical worth considering — but I guess we gotta do that before either of them thinks of acquiring some nukes, right?

It sounds dreadful. Putin obviously doesn’t give a hoot about the Russian people, only about staying in power and lining his pockets.

He started a war that’s gotten lots of white men killed yet these threads are full of Putin fanboys.

I don’t see a problem. The leaders of Ukraine were understandably upset when Putin seized Crimea in 2014.

Answer my question: why is Russia reverting to WW2 tactics instead of building his country up the way Japan and others have done?

That’s. Not. Funny.

“I certainly wouldn’t want the Russians interfering if America was invading Mexico and/or Canada. Would you?”

Wow. Really? Just,…wow.

I notice you haven’t answered the question. Seems suspiciously pro-Putin of you. 🧐

If the US cuts military spending then we can give the money saved back to the taxpayers. They can then spend it on what they want and that will stimulate the economy. The government just shifts spending from one area of the economy to another, usually over to whichever special interest groups have the most political clout.

The lower defense spending during the Eisenhower era coincided with prosperity. The fastest economic growth in American history happened in the 50 year period from 1865 to 1915 when we had a small military and no major wars.

No more wars for the Zionist entity.

Soviet style lingo. Hardly a sign of thought.

Why does anyone outside of Arabia give a rat’s ass about Palestinians?

The smart and peaceful ones have departed for better locales.

The welfare terrorists are paid to cause trouble and pretend they work and “love” their desolate “homeland.” Gaza is an artificial construct totally dependent on aid paying Hamas for terror.

Why is it only Jordan will admit Palestinian refugees? And that have little choice due to their borders. The rest of their Arab “brothers” of Palestine say, “keep out.”

This “Zionist entity” is here to stay, like it or not.

Defense spending in the 50s was several times what it is now–as a fraction of GDP. It was over 9% in 1960, the earliest year I could find quickly, and half of Federal spending. The percentage plummeted in the horrible 70s, which were ruined by money printing, tax bracket creep, new regulations, decades of punitive tax rates on higher incomes, and a raised rate on capital gains (often just inflationary) from ’69-’78 that suppressed investment.

What do you expect when the same designers are in charge?

Related: obvious murder in 2017 of black judge on NY’s highest court ruled a suicide by NYC, no push back by press.

https://archive.vn/X1g9o

Bonus: although she had bruises on her neck (indicating she had been forced under water), the NYC quickly offered that they were caused from when they retrieved her body, and the NY Times nodded its little Deep State head.

What were the ratios?