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Shoshana Kirya-Ziraba

She’s black, but that’s an interesting given name, isn’t it? (Her maiden name appears to be McKinney.)

https://www.linkedin.com/in/shoshana-mckinney-kirya-ziraba-b1910793

She’s the Executive Director of Tikvah Foundation Uganda according to the LinkedIn profile. What is Tikvah?

https://tikvahfund.org/

Tikvah is a non-profit ideas institution committed to supporting the intellectual, religious, and political leaders of the Jewish people and the Jewish state. Tikvah runs and invests in a wide range of initiatives in Israel, the United States, and around the world, including educational programs, publications, and fellowships. We invite you to explore some of these initiatives through the links on this page.

Our animating mission and guiding spirit is to advance Jewish excellence and Jewish flourishing in the modern age. Tikvah is politically Zionist, economically free-market oriented, culturally traditional, and theologically open-minded. Yet in all issues and subjects, we welcome vigorous debate and big arguments. Our institutes, programs, and publications all reflect this spirit of bringing forward the serious alternatives for what the Jewish future should look like, and bringing Jewish thinking and leaders into conversation with Western political, moral, and economic thought.

Year-long growing season? Check.
Solar panels and solar-heated-generators viable? yup
Fertile soil? Usually
Enough rain? In most places

Africa has plenty of land potential for knowledgeable farmers (as Zimbabwe and South Africa have proven in the past). A State Department program or grant could partner US professionals to get some earnest blacks started over there, and help improve the future of that continent. It’s such a huge place. Look at it on a globe, not a map, to really appreciate it’s size.

I read this article a few days ago. Buried within it, as usual, you discover the truth. In this case, nearly all of these people are still economically tied to America. They’re living off of retirement income they earned here, they work for Western NGOs, the one who is a farmer is working as an online teacher of students in South Carolina.

Liberia lives again.

Blaxit

Keep the dream alive!

In truth, the only thing blacks are really tired of in the US is other blacks.

I strongly doubt if this will become a big thing. Still, as more African immigrants show up in the United States, more African-Americans will likely find themselves with a spouse who wants to move back home to Africa.

As the United States becomes more and more of a shithole, other parts of the world will become more attractive in relative terms.

bringing forward the serious alternatives for what the Jewish future should look like

Do any of them not involve the genocide of people they don’t like?

P.S. How many blax have returned to Africa? Five or six by this article’s reckoning?

I’ve been to Botswana and at least the parts that I saw didn’t seem too bad. It has one of the better reputations in Africa. High rates of HIV however.

They forgot to mention the best perk of living in Africa — in some countries you can still buy a slave!

There’s an attractive couple from Atlanta who moved to Ghana and post on YT. Short version: it’s hard but it’s nice being away from the US.

https://www.youtube.com/@ExpatLifeGhana

OT — Begining in mid-2021 embalmers in advanced countries started finding massive numbers of weird long white amaloid clots in dead people. 30% of corpses had the clots in 2022, declining to 20% in 2023.

Coincidentally, excess deaths are running 10-15% above normal as well. But official health organizations and public intellectuals are uninterested, so I’m sure it’s nothing to worry about.

Nothing new under the sun.

The nation state of Liberia was expressly established by the ‘American Colonization Society’ as a reparation – in the truest sense of the word – to right the wrong of chattel slavery as practised in the USA by returning freed slaves to their ancestral home and ancestral way of life.
An excellent and laudable proposition, the real tragedy is that the project was never properly seen through to completion.

The only trouble was that the American blacks, once on Liberian soil, started behaving in a haughty and aggressive manner to the local blacks, incurring the hatred of the locals, and centuries of warfare.

You are cheapening the word genocide. This is being done intentionally in order to blur actual genocides (such as that committed against the Jews) from fake ones so as to deprive Israelis of their moral standing as the chief victims of genocide (by white Europeans), upon which the legitimacy of the state of Israel rests in part.

I can understand that people are unhappy with the level of civilian casualties in Gaza (although 600,000 dead in Syria didn’t seem to bother them much) but calling that a “genocide” is just a propagandistic lie. A genocide is a specific thing and this ain’t it. There are billions of Muslims and millions in Gaza and they are in no danger of being exterminated.

Europeans are in much greater danger due to lack of fertility. The Gaza fertility rate is 3.38, well above replacement. In Greece it is 1.34, well below. We will run out of Greeks long before we run out of Gazans. Even with the current war, more Gazans are being born than are dying so their population is only going up.

Did it ever occur to you that these clots (and excess deaths) are a result of Covid itself and not the vax?

Research is being done in this area and amyloids are suspect in “long Covid”:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35195253/

BTW, amyloid is spelled with a “y”.

She’s black, but that’s an interesting given name, isn’t it? (Her maiden name appears to be McKinney.)

https://www.linkedin.com/in/shoshana-mckinney-kirya-ziraba-b1910793

She’s the Executive Director of Tikvah Foundation Uganda according to the LinkedIn profile. What is Tikvah?

https://tikvahfund.org/

Nah, these are completely different organizations. McKinney’s organization is Tikvah Hadasha (Tikvah means hope, hence New Hope.) It’s a mom and pop shop in Uganda

This is blurb from website of Tifereth Israel synagogue (Conservative shul, LGBT friendly blah blah etc.) in San Diego where she was scholar in residence once.

“Shoshana McKinney is the executive director of Tikvah Chadasha Uganda, a community-based non-profit organization she founded with her Ugandan Jewish husband. Like many of you, Shoshana was born and raised in Southern California. She is a religious Jewish mom and stepmom living in Uganda full-time since 2021.

The mission of Tikvah Chadasha Uganda is to permanently eliminate grinding poverty through providing opportunities to earn a livelihood. The organization creates, equips and stocks sustainable chicken farms for poor Jewish women who are trained with the knowledge to leave day labor in the vegetable fields behind. Tikvah Chadasha Uganda also breaks down barriers to education for disabled children in Uganda in many ways; these include providing crutches, wheelchairs and sign language training to hearing parents and teachers of deaf children.”

Her husband is evidently ‘abayudaya’ or something similar (Not exactly but sort of Ugandan version of Ethiopian Falash-Mura ). Tikvah Fund on the other hand is super slick high powered Jewish philanthropy org. with lots of resources , A-list donors etc. The 2 organizations share little in common outside the word tikvah.

Of interest?

From the original article:

Mrs. Kirya-Ziraba, who is Jewish, said that when she moved to Uganda to join her husband, Israel Kirya, she went from being “a minority within a minority” to being surrounded by those who share her race and faith. Mrs. Kirya-Ziraba, who worked for a commercial real estate company in Texas, now runs Tikvah Chadasha Foundation, a nonprofit supporting Ugandan women and disabled children. She and her husband live in Mbale, a small city that is home to the Abayudaya Jewish community, which has about 2,000 members.

In the United States, Mrs. Kirya-Ziraba said, her identity came with qualifications: “Other Black people try to qualify my Blackness because I’m Jewish, and other Jews try to qualify my Judaism because I’m Black.”

Looking up “Abayudaya” one finds a Wikipedia entry for them:

The Abayudaya (Abayudaya is Luganda for “People of Judah”) are a Jewish community in eastern Uganda, near the town of Mbale. They are devout in their practice, keeping kashrut and observing Shabbat.

There are several different villages where the Abayudaya live. A community that converted to Judaism in the 20th century, most community members are affiliated with the Reform and Conservative movements of Judaism. In June 2016, Rabbi Shlomo Riskin led a Beit Din that performed an Orthodox conversion for the Putti community of Abayudaya.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abayudaya

Of course once an American Black moves to a Sub Saharan country, he/she immediately becomes just another immigrant who doesn’t know the culture or language and can’t fit in. However, as long as the American has money they can enjoy the privilege of expat status. Which suggests the real reason to emigrate to Africa is not to “fit in “ but the opposite – to jump up several rungs in social status relative to what they enjoy in the US.

Thank you for the correction. Are you certain though that her mom-and-pop operation is not underwritten by the more powerful Tikvah outfit?

That´s the salient point …
just like Cinque of Amistad fame had nothing more pressing to do than become
a slave trader himself, the newlyfreedpersons first thing in Liberia began aping a
slaveholder society and massacring the hapless indigenes; Americans have forgotten
the history but Africans sure as hell haven´t (even Caribbean Blacks! regard the
US ones as lazy, pampered thugs).
Problem is Mikhail Kalashnikow has made men equal 🧐

Coincidentally, excess deaths are running 10-15% above normal as well. But official health organizations and public intellectuals are uninterested

Coincidentally the “health care” apparatchiks aren’t running around with the death vax for all the unaccompanied military -age men that Biden and the UN payed to invade our country . Debilitate the native population then usher in an army , it’s the smallpox blanket strategy writ large. Don’t worry ,our sociopathic overlords are telling us everyday that disease X is on the way , I’m sure it will require more gene therapy to mutate the human genome even farther .

Research is being done

Funded by , let me guess , NIH ,CDC , some pharmaceutical company? the same people that tanked hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin.

“And African-Americans who grew up on farms and like to do some farming and have a lot of do-it-yourself skills.” LOL. What’s that, like a couple of dozen nationwide? Picking cotton was about as close to “farming” as any blacks have gotten.

On the one hand, I cannot blame anyone for fantasizing about relocating to an idealized homeland far from the sludge that is present day America. Toss in the extremely low cost of living in Africa and a reasonably successful person can have a lot, if you can live with the 3rd world aspects of your new host society.

On the other, the real problem that plagues moderately to very successful blacks are other blacks in America, not society at large. Unlike basically every other group, blacks do not look down on/shun their most dysfunctional members – in fact, they are quite unified with them politically to mitigate the consequences of their behavior. As long as this is the case, members of this group will be judged by the typical behavior of their lowest common denominator.

Colonization, i.e. repatriation to Africa, was the most popular solution to the slavery problem in antebellum America. Contrary to myth, the relatively few who had misgivings about slavery did not wish to allow blacks to live among them as social or political equals. The chief opponents of the scheme were the small but vocal communities of free blacks in the northern states. They formed mutual interest societies and issued periodic public “memorials” on their position. They attempted to appeal to whites by reminding them of their natural desire to remain in the land of their birth. They regarded Africa as a dangerous alien land populated by savage tribesmen and wild beasts, and they wanted no part of it. (This was also largely the attitude of world Jewry to Zionism in its first four decades, but that’s another story.) It’s a sad commentary on human nature that slaves who were purchased by the American Colonization Society and sent to Liberia soon formed a caste over the native people, whom they treated with disdain and often cruelty.

But Clio, the Muse of history, is a flattering seductress, who does not much value honest remembrance.

This article was about Blacks from the US trying out, just living in Africa.

You self obsessed Jews are obviously guilty of Genocide in Gaza and earlier in the foundation of the state, on official Israeli territory.

Amman will be next, Beirut and even Cairo. Damascus looks like a real possibility.

in the truest sense of the word – to right the wrong of chattel slavery as practised in the USA by returning freed slaves to their ancestral home and ancestral way of life.

I think a fairer characterization is that the ACS sought to solve the perceived problem of free blacks in the US by incentivizing slaves to earn freedom by agreeing to colonize Liberia. The story of the hostility of northerners to migrating freed slaves is an important and mostly embargoed part of the Civil War/abolition story. The ACS sought to repeat the earlier British expulsion of blacks who were removed to the UK from North America following the Revolution. The British expelled this population by relocating them to Sierra Leone.

If this movement has a GoFundMe page, I’ll contribute generously.

For the same reason the French hate us?

What is guaranteed is that local blacks will rob and kill the relatively wealthy returnee blacks for the tangible assets that they have.
This happens an awful lot with Jamaicans returning home from the UK.

Botswana is one of the better-run African nations, for whatever that’s worth. Why not start a Reparations Travel Agency to help the poor dearies to Return to Africa?

RTA, all the way.

The story of the hostility of northerners to migrating freed slaves

…is basic common sense. Slaves have no place in a free republic. Or a free monarchy, for that matter.

As for buying off the planters, with what? Weren’t they already the richest men in the land? The ratio of slave to free man was five to ten times higher in the US than in the British Empire– and their slaves were already abroad. (There were thousands of black servants in England in the 19th century, but under arrangements other than ownership.)

It would have been easier and cheaper to declare slaves in the US illegal aliens, and deport them.

“Even with the current war, more Gazans are being born than are dying so their population is only going up.”

Oh, whew! Good to know. At least they’ll still breeding. So all the ones being slaughtered and dying it’s no big deal. Thank you for clarification via Israeli propaganda/talking points. Them talking points are getting a bit more…shall we say…A Modest Proposal Jonathan Swift-y like.

To paraphrase Doritos commercial,

[Re: Gaza and Israel] “kill all you want, they’ll breed more!”

The only trouble was that the American blacks, once on Liberian soil, started behaving in a haughty and aggressive manner to the local blacks, incurring the hatred of the locals, and centuries of warfare.

Their 1927 election makes our 2020 one look almost valid in comparison. It was the psephological equivalent of hyperinflation.

The 1927 Presidential Elections

Doesn’t “President King” have a nice sound?

Trivia: Which of our Presidents was born a King?

She and her husband live in Mbale, a small city that is home to the Abayudaya Jewish community, which has about 2,000 members.

Hopefully they can eventually make aliyah to Israel. Perhaps there will be new housing opportunities in southern Israel once Gaza is cleansed of Gentiles.

the newlyfreedpersons first thing in Liberia began aping a slaveholder society and massacring the hapless indigenes

American slave holders didn’t massacre American Indians or Africans.

The story of the hostility of northerners to migrating freed slaves is an important and mostly embargoed part of the Civil War/abolition story.

Can you recommend some reading on this topic?

“There were thousands of black servants in England in the 19th century, but under arrangements other than ownership.)”

Ok, some of this is total bullshit. The chimney sweepers, factory workers were more or less owned by the capitalists of the time. The UK had its own exploitation of workers problems.

That’s why Parliament finally passed laws vs this kind of worker exploitation. It’s why the Labour Party in the early 20th century got off the ground and post WW2, gave the nation Clement Atlee.

In this clip a black American woman moved to Ghana to escape Chicago gun violence.

https://www.voanews.com/a/african-american-woman-encourages-fellow-blacks-to-emigrate-to-ghana/7072618.html

Did it ever occur to you that these clots (and excess deaths) are a result of Covid itself and not the vax?

Did it ever occur to you that the clotting mechanism (the spike protein) is common to both COVID AND the COVID vaccines? And that creating a vaccine that causes your body to produce copious amounts of a part of the virion that can cause problems might not have been such a great idea.

End Racism & Antisemitism in White Nations
Blaxit for Blacks to the Motherland
Brown flush for Browns to their place of origin
Yellow submarine for Yellows to their place of origin
All gibz in America go to the Reds (Injuns)

Jews? Greenland, perhaps.

But is there anywhere whites will be able to go? Europe and Canada are declining too. Central America? Greenland?

You are cheapening the word genocide.

CP Scott was onto something when he said nothing good can come of a Latin-Greek bastardization. He was talking about television, specifically, but it fits as well sociology, homosexual, hypermarché, and now genocide. It’s like the ancients have put a curse on such words. (Mea culpa. Even I used hyperinflation in a recent comment. Hyper- just sounds more, well… hyper, than ultra.)

the chief victims of genocide

Jews are near the top, yes, but are they “chief” by any of various standards? Armenians predated them, Ukrainians outnumbered* them, Rwandan Tutsis suffered a higher proportion of losses. (Though Burundi’s Tutsis were mostly untouched.) Come to think of it, Lemkin was talking about Armenians when he coined the word in 1943.

“We suffered” can invite sympathy, but “we suffered the worst” just invites “Oh, yeah, well what about…?” Such one-upmanship works against your case, not for it. (Does it even work in a court of law?)

There are billions of Muslims and millions in Gaza and they are in no danger of being exterminated.

Not even “ethnic cleansing”. But religious cleansing is pretty much complete in once-Christian Gaza, which has a nice but mostly empty cathedral. Gaza has the approximate size and population of the City and County of Philadelphia, but her Christian population is about half that of just the Armenian-born in Philly.

One of the better, if little-used, points for the Israeli case is that there are about 20 Arabic-speaking Christians in Israel proper for every one left in Gaza.

*As did Chinese under Mao, but that was done to his own people, so wouldn’t count as “genocide”. Perhaps “autogenocide”. As is the case in the West and, in a different way, the Orient.

Doesn’t “President King” have a nice sound?

So, it’s all true then? We wuz kangz?

Did it ever occur to you that these clots (and excess deaths) are a result of Covid itself and not the vax?

Why Yes, JD, that occurred to everybody, since fake “long COVID” is the favorite excuse of every Pfizer shill. During COVID in 2020 there were even a very few clots showing up since they are apparently caused by the spike protein. But it was only the vax rollout in 2021 that really started the phenomenon.

The mRNA vax programs your own tissues to bathe you with spike proteins so it’s basically like having the “long COVID” that the vax apologists invent in their minds.

You should watch the video. John Campbell is as sincere and knowledgeable and data driven as they come.

You are cheapening the word genocide.

Sorry, I meant to say holocaust.

How about, Perpetually Offended and Resentful, Blacks Take Bags and Baggage to Africa. This is why it’s a good thing I’m no longer writing headlines

Also Gordo doesn’t know what the word “Troll” means in an internet context

It isn’t like having “long COVID”. That colloquial term implies months of effects. The vaccine is mRNA and mRNA is pretty fragile, normally breaks down on the order of minutes. Even with the modifications added to the vax I don’t think it can make it more than a couple days.

I agree that “my genocide was bigger than yours” is a stupid game – who wants to win that dubious prize? But I think it’s safe to say that the genocide of the Jews in Europe was AMONG the biggest ones of the 20th century and that there is nothing going on that merits that name in Gaza right now.

If you really want to quibble, some of these other events are not entirely comparable. For example, even though Stalin killed a lot of Ukrainians, there were a lot left over, enough to still form a country. However, by the time Hitler got done, you could go from one end of Poland to the other and not meet a single Jew. And keep in mind that the big cities of Poland were 30% or more Jewish before the war. Imagine Detroit or New Orleans without a single black person being left. Nor was this population just displaced like the Greek community of Turkey – they were mostly murdered. The Armenian genocide was bad but the numbers involved were a lot smaller. And the Holocaust had unique features such as the construction of death factories not found in others. Again, it’s stupid to argue that you are #1 in being holocausted but when you add up all the factors it’s certainly up there among the worst.

Leaving aside the human toll there, it’s annoying to no end how “genocide” has become the word of the year and the most medaciously misused word of the year.

It’s fortunate things didn’t blow up over there until October, because all those companies that declare a trendy Word of the Year in an attempt to capture the latest zeitgeist — dictionary publishers etc — had already jumped the gun by then with their lame nominations. Otherwise “genocide” would win by mile, for all the wrong reasons

The US has blown a lot of people to Kingdom Come but for example we did not “genocide” Japan

Because they’re foreigners and aren’t related to the locals in a relevant way? Also because they’re mixed?

Dagnabbit Kaganovitch, we need a new rule here: Jewish conspiracies® newly-mentioned in the comments must be allowed to run for 24 hours before anyone fact-checks them. I want to see first where their flights of fantasy pirouette off to.

The mRNA vax programs your own tissues to bathe you with spike proteins so it’s basically like having the “long COVID” that the vax apologists invent in their minds.

That’s funny because my family and I as well as many other people I know have all had multiple doses of the vax and none of us have experienced ANY “long Covid” like symptoms at all.

And you are saying that “long Covid” is something that exists only in the mind of vax apologists? That’s ridiculous. It’s well documented that while most people (who survive) get over Covid, a certain % of the survivors have long term effects. Telling these people that it’s in their mind is a form of gaslighting.

Gerald Ford.

From the article referred to above: “You’re coming here and you’re expecting that everybody’s Black, so I’m going to be OK,” Ms. Davis said. “But then you get here and then you’re being ‘othered’” — viewed as different and separate.

In other words: Same old/same old. Why am I not surprised?

“…when you add up all the factors it’s certainly up there among the worst.”

A dubious distinction.

Well, they did have a good run, until a certain unfortunate incident on the beach…

It makes no difference – Judaism is ALL one BIG conspiracy. After Kaganovitch showed that the 2 organizations just share the name “Tikvah” , Twinkie asked him to PROVE that they were not related anyway.

Tikvah means hope – the Israeli national anthem is entitled HaTikvah – The Hope. It’s about the hope of the Jews to have their own nation again. To name your charity Hope Something or Something Hope (“Project Hope”, etc.) is not a big reach.

When I put “hope” into Charity Navigator, it spits out 10,000+ results. I’d like Twinkie to PROVE that all 10,000 of these charities are not related to each other.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/search?q=hope

There are also 60 charities with Tikvah in their name:

https://www.charitynavigator.org/search?q=tikvah

Are you certain though that her mom-and-pop operation is not underwritten by the more powerful Tikvah outfit?

One can’t be absolutely certain of such a thing but there is really no prima facie reason to think so. As an example, there are more than 10,000! charities in the USA with the word “hope’ in their name/s. Is there any reason to think that one is affiliated with another absent other evidence? Of course with ‘tikvah’ we are dealing with a vastly smaller universe of charities but the principle is the same. Furthermore, there are several reasons why a relationship between Tikvah and Tikvah Hadasha is unlikely.

1 – While Tikvah is not exactly an Orthodox institution, it does have an Orthodox-leaning bias ( It was conceived of and endowed by the late Sanford Bernstein who was a mid-life returnee to Orthodox Judaism) and the dubious halachic status of the Abayudaya would make Tikvah Hadasha an unlikely beneficiary of Tikvah largesse.

2 – Tikvah is very West/ White collar/ Academic focused. This kind of retail, hands dirty, dealing with live chickens kind of work is really not their thing.

3 – Conversely, slicksters that they are, if they were funding this, they would be trumpeting it from the rooftops to demonstrate their ‘inclusivity’ etc., etc. You would search their annual report in vain for any mention of this or similar programs
https://tikvahfund.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Tikvah_2024_web.pdf

In summation, while one can’t be completely positive, I find it extremely unlikely that the two entities have any relationship other than a similar name.

It’s better to reign in Uganda or Costa Rica than to serve in Ohio or West Virginia.

Has Gaza been majority Christian recently? I thought the problem with that was aggressive Islam.

That goes back to the 7th century.

Jewish conspiracies® newly-mentioned in the comments must be allowed to run for 24 hours before anyone fact-checks them. I want to see first where their flights of fantasy pirouette off to.

To be fair, it’s not a completely crazy theory, just not well informed. Also, not much of a conspiracy; If the Jewish Establishment was underwriting the return of American Blacks to Africa would that really be a bad thing? Certainly better than some of the other shenanigans they get up to.

This is a non-trend, or, ok, a micro-trend. It is utterly dwarfed by the–utterly depressing–millions of new Africans in the US.

However, it is useful in one respect. I’ve already noted “No reparations without repatriation”. Extending …

Conservatives should stop being pussies and answer all minoritarian whining with a generalized: “Don’t like it here … ok make aliyah.”

The plain truth is the “coalition of the fringes” is essentially parasitic upon America’s white gentile core. They did not come here to settle the land or for a great climate. They came–and still come —because my ancestors created a better nation, than wherever they are from. They are short–some way, way, way short–integration and loyalty. They are not making America better for us.

Blacks (Africans), Jews (Israelis), Muslims, Latinos, Indians, Chinese …. keep on coming and coming and coming … running toward their supposed “oppression”.

Conservatives should answer all the “racism!”, “anti-Semitism!”, “Islamophobia!”, “Xenophobia!” whines with a simple “GTFO.” “Ten thousand and a ticket” has a nice ring to it. Of course, that only really starts solving the problem, once you do the basic and stop the invasion.

There is some concern that those amyloid plaques may mean that suffering Covid is a risk factor for Alzheimer’s Disease, which is characterized by such plaques in the brain.

Sounds like a good idea to avoid Covid.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20231023/Is-COVID-19-a-risk-factor-for-Alzheimers-disease.aspx

“long Covid”

Biowarfare Inc.’s misinformation term to obscure the fact that the mRNA gene therapy drug erodes natural immunity. Thus you have people who were generally healthy before submitting to the vaccine mandate who are now chronically sickly with expected shortened lifespans.

It seems that discrimination is not limited to evil YT. Who would have guessed?

“You’re coming here and you’re expecting that everybody’s Black, so I’m going to be OK,” Ms. Davis said. “But then you get here and then you’re being ‘othered’” — viewed as different and separate.

The “othering” goes both ways. Some Ghanaians feel discrimination from Black Americans, said Ekua Otoo, 36, a Ghanaian in Accra. Black American communities there can be insular, she said, and their businesses often prefer to hire Black Americans, or Indians and Lebanese, for senior positions, while qualified Ghanaians are excluded or underpaid. “If you’re leaving the U.S. to come to Ghana thinking about ‘I’m coming to the motherland,’ at least treat us right,” Ms. Otoo said.

You are cheapening the word genocide. This is being done intentionally in order to blur actual genocides (such as that committed against the Jews) from fake ones so as to deprive Israelis of their moral standing as the chief victims of genocide (by white Europeans), upon which the legitimacy of the state of Israel rests in part.

Agree there is no “genocide” in Gaza. (A fair amount of killing, that I’m dubious is going to do much in solving the fundamental problem that the Jews and Palestinians should be in completely separate viable nations … but both claim the same real estate.)

However–I know this is deeply offensive to minoritarian ideology–there is no “moral standing” that comes from being somebody’s victim, much less historical victim. (Individually or as a group.) You’re just a victim. (A separate issue: Jews are not the “chief victims” of genocide. The chief victims of genocide no long exist. Nor is it clear how German oppression of Jews would somehow give Jews some sort of right to colonize Arab land. That’s some bizarro ethics.)

Moral standing–well people obviously argue about it. But most people see all humans as inherently having some sort of moral standing from being humans. And then you may forfeit it or improve upon it by your actions. Robbers breaking into your house and killing some members of your family, doesn’t improve your moral standing. Maybe being a good-neighbor does? Jews are smart, and they do not tend to shoot up super-bowl parades, but they are not renown for the sort of qualities/virtues–neighborliness, fair-dealing, honesty–that might conceivably raise moral-standing above “default human”.

Like something from a David Cronenberg movie. Coming upon these claims in ’23 they seemed too outlandish even for me. Pix lie; quacks looking for social media attention lie like fiends. But given the clearing of obscuring mist, and the detectably of the outline of Biowarfare Inc.’s infrastructure, I’m prepared to entertain any Cronenbergisms that may appear in the near future.

We’re going to find out there’s nothing that virus can’t do and not, not I tell you, anything to do with the leaky vaccine the government spent billions on and ordered all its employees to get.

Ditto to all of this. And for what it’s worth, Guidestar returns 76 different organizations from a search for “Tikvah”.

The 2 organizations share little in common outside the word tikvah.

Has anyone checked if this guy has a connection?

Which have reasonable levels of competence and not too much corruption and crime?

Ghana and Botswana are said to be the most advanced nations in black Africa.

There is some concern that those amyloid plaques may mean that suffering Covid is a risk factor for Alzheimer’s Disease, which is characterized by such plaques in the brain.

Sounds like a good idea to avoid Covid.

I tried to add a link, system would not post it with link.

Oh now I see it did get posted after all. Bug in system, I got repeated ever messages.

I’ve spent time in West Africa. Away from tourist zones (where I’v seen a trinket dealer get American college girls to buy his junk by accusing them of racism), people are quite decent and friendly. I lived in a lower-class urban neighborhood without fear (because the community vigilantly watches and deters wrongdoers). Most people are regulated by close family, village or neighborhood, clan, and by one or another ancient Islam sect (not Saudi). Some people drink, but the Islamic prohibition means that most people don’t, and that helps. People also differ by ethnic group, sometimes considerably, one group being renowned for lazy men, another for skill at commerce, or for religious piety, and so on. They love to joke about each other’s ethnicity (like Americans did in the 1950s).

Most do not have a chip-on-the-shoulder attitude towards whites. The few that do are in the intelligentsia. Africans are black in a black country, and that makes for confidence. An African-American in America, in the absence of any bad vibrations, still may feel uncomfortable surrounded by whites; and feel more relaxed in an all-black country.

The middle-class African-Americans going to Africa I suppose are peaceful and prosperous. But West Africans despise American black feral culture and people. Africans do not celebrate or excuse murder, robbery, rape. I was at a street market that suddenly exploded in cries of Thief! Thief! A crowd of stall owners and customers chased him down, beat him bloody, and left him half-dead on the pavement.

The experience tells me that a lot of the problem in the U.S. is cultural, and culture can be changed. Sadly, discussion of positive cultural change is prohibited now and for the indefinite future.

It’s well documented that while most people (who survive) get over Covid, a certain % of the survivors have long term effects

No. It’s well documented that some % of all people always believe they are experiencing mysterious brain fog, aches and pains, and need time off from work and a disability check. There is zero evidence that natural COVID infection is somehow hanging around, or whatever the theory is

But it is funny that you believe natural spike proteins can cause long term effects but that human-induce spike protein infection is “safe and effective.”. Maybe it’s the long COVID and/or vax induced brain fog that is preventing this cognitive leap

Increasing IQ and future time preference represents a great opportunity for researchers that would have a positive benefit on every individual, not just those getting a boost.

As the United States becomes more and more of a shithole, other parts of the world will become more attractive in relative terms.

Could be a lot to this. The United States was a world leader when it was able to develop in the second phase of the industrial revolution and had almost unlimited natural resources and land.

With the construction of the interstate road system from the 1960s onwards, the United States was able to develop and expand based on the idea that everybody had a car, every store and every restaurant had a parking lot, and the United States practically invented suburbia in which every freestanding house stood in the center of a lot, usually with a lawn made of super green grass.

But now many countries that were left behind have skipped over the interstate highway, parking lot, and suburbia age.

Now that natural resources are running out and pollution is a major issue, and the internet is everywhere, densely populated historic cities are coming back, and quick clean and fast public transportation is developing much faster than in the United States, which has boxed itself into a corner.

This may not be the case in all parts of Africa, but any place where you have internet communications or satellite dishes, you can build your own enclave and live well on an income which might only be in the middle range in the United States. Part of the reason for this is that almost everywhere else healthcare is much, much cheaper.

“But it is funny that you believe natural spike proteins can cause long term effects but that human-induce spike protein infection is ‘safe and effective.’”.

“Safe and effective” implies a context — as in “safe and effective COMPARED TO…”. So if we take HCQ, which the truthers assured us is very safe and effective, it is actually neither, when it comes to COVID but it is assuredly a lot more safe and effective than dealing with malaria. So that’s how the label got attached to the drug, at which point the truthers mistakenly assumed it applied everywhere.

The whole point of vaccines is to give you a smaller, more manageable exposure to the virus (or something so close to that virus that the antibodies produced work against both). So spike proteins from the vaccine can cause, e.g., myocarditis — but the likelihood is about seven times less than what one would experience with the virus itself. The vaccine also gives you flu-like symptoms for a day or so, and can mess with menstrual cycles, and such, but again, it does all that to a far lesser extent than COVID itself. So relative to the virus, the vaccine is indeed safe and effective.

As for long COVID, the vaccine reduces the likelihood of that by by a factor of 2-4, depending on the study. I’m not sure to what extent the vaccines can cause symptoms of long COVID, but even there, I expect you’re better off with that than the virus itself.

If you want to be really safe, get an extra long conference table and some body doubles to handle travels beyond your fortress — like your boy in Moscow.

Pistol executions….?

Id be willing to wager there are more Black expats with military/government pensions in the traditional expat locations like Mexico, Panama, Thailand etc., then Africa.

The ACS sought to repeat the earlier British expulsion of blacks who were removed to the UK from North America following the Revolution. The British expelled this population by relocating them to Sierra Leone.

Wow. Now try imagining any Western country having such resolve today.

Robbers breaking into your house and killing some members of your family, doesn’t improve your moral standing.

It does, however, in some states, entitle you to compensation from the Crime Victim’s Compensation Fund

https://pcv.pccd.pa.gov/available-services/Pages/Victims-Compensation.aspx

Consider Israel to be Western Civilization’s reparations award to the Jewish people. Germany expressly acknowledges this and has paid billions in reparations to Israel.

Now, the Palestinians might object and say that Israel was not England’s or the UN’s to give in the 1st place. Legally it was the land of the defunct Ottoman Empire so it didn’t belong to the Palestinians either (they never had their own country). The part that the British gave to the Hashemite kings (today called Jordan) was not theirs to give either (nor was it the Hashemites – the hereditary rules of Saudi Arabia – Jordan was a consolation prize), nor for that matter were any of the countries constructed by the victors out of the land of the defeated powers of WWI and WWII, so Israel’s claim is no better or worse than a lot of other countries that no one questions, only Israel.

Ultimately Israel exists and will exist because Israelis are willing to defend it with their lives. The UN Partition and everything else would have meant (and still mean) nothing unless Israel defended itself from attack and that is what it is doing in Gaza right now. The situation in Gaza, where Hamas would periodically bombard Israel with rockets, was already insane BEFORE Oct. 7, but the Israelis put up with it as the best of the alternatives, all of which were bad. But after Oct. 7 it reached its logical culmination (not only rocket attacks but physical invasion) and became TRULY intolerable. No sovereign country can tolerate such attacks without a definitive response and continue to exist as a nation.

Jewish conspiracies

I incorrectly and erroneously attributed Shoshana Kirya-Ziraba’s employer to the larger Tikvah Fund, but no conspiracy of any kind was stated, suggested or implied. Or did you just assume so, because I wrote critical things about Jews in the past?

To the extent I implied anything, it was that the person in question was not your garden-variety black person (or even a garden-variety upper middle class black person) returning to Mother Africa, but rather a Jewish or Jewish convert married to the same working for a Jewish non-profit in Uganda – a highly unusual circumstance.

Indeed, the Jewish Federation of San Diego explains thusly: https://www.jewishinsandiego.org/san-diego-jewish-community-calendar/shoshana-mckinney-of-tikvah-uganda-scholar-in-residence-at-tifereth-israel-1688903068/

Shoshana McKinney is the executive director of Tikvah Chadasha Uganda, a community-based non-profit organization she founded with her Ugandan Jewish husband. Like many of you, Shoshana was born and raised in Southern California. She is a religious Jewish mom and stepmom living in Uganda full-time since 2021.

The mission of Tikvah Chadasha Uganda is to permanently eliminate grinding poverty through providing opportunities to earn a livelihood. The organization creates, equips and stocks sustainable chicken farms for poor Jewish women who are trained with the knowledge to leave day labor in the vegetable fields behind. Tikvah Chadasha Uganda also breaks down barriers to education for disabled children in Uganda in many ways; these include providing crutches, wheelchairs and sign language training to hearing parents and teachers of deaf children.

Watch this powerful video to learn more about the Women’s Program:

Shoshana is excited to share aspects of the beautiful culture of this community called Abayudaya translated as the People of Juda. She will be speaking about the history of Judaism in Uganda, her experiences with the community, and how you can get involved. Shoshana will be teaching Ugandan melodies and drumming and answering your questions. She’s looking forward to getting to know you all and to see you there!

Friend her on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/shoshana.mckinney?mibextid=ZbWKwL

My erroneous attribution to a wrong Jewish charity earlier doesn’t change the original point.

It makes no difference – Judaism is ALL one BIG conspiracy. After Kaganovitch showed that the 2 organizations just share the name “Tikvah” , Twinkie asked him to PROVE that they were not related anyway.

When I put “hope” into Charity Navigator, it spits out 10,000+ results. I’d like Twinkie to PROVE that all 10,000 of these charities are not related to each other.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/search?q=hope

There are also 60 charities with Tikvah in their name:

https://www.charitynavigator.org/search?q=tikvah

Larger charities often provide grants and seed money to smaller (“mom-and-pop”) charities, especially overseas (or in geographic regions where they themselves do not operate). The chance that some among the 60 Jewish charities have something in common more than the name is a lot higher than the chance that “all 10,000” charities do (I am reasonably sure, though, that some among that 10,000 are related in some way).

And, again, what is this “conspiracy” nonsense? What conspiracy did I claim here?

Yes, I made a mistake and I was too hasty in attributing the woman’s employer to a different Jewish non-profit. I don’t have a problem admitting so – indeed I am grateful to commenter “kaganovich” for correcting me here.

You crowing about my error is rather rich, considering that dozens (and probably more) of your assertions have been contradicted over the years and not once have you acknowledged or admitted so. You just disappear, reappear on other threads and repeat the same stuff. Recently, you even went as far as to fudge/make up numbers/compare across different categories to make Jewish support for the left seem less egregious than is actually the case. Just because you have dishonest motives and deceptive methods, don’t project those tendencies onto others.

The experience tells me that a lot of the problem in the U.S. is cultural, and culture can be changed.

This is very much true – even IQ can change rapidly (e.g. South Korea where IQ went up by 7.7 per decade for two decades of birth cohorts, but even in that case, bulk of the gains was among the downscale; the upscale portion didn’t change).

Even though most American blacks descend from the West African stock, that doesn’t mean there has been no selection effect operating on the former.

Moreover, blacks coexisting in societies with whites and Asians are always* going to experience problems competing cognitively with the latter, which inevitably results in resentment and demand for “equity.” So, there will be what I call “oppositional culture” that will make the presence of large number of blacks in non-black societies highly problematic to say the least.

*Unless there is a radically different comparative selection operating in mixed societies going forward.

Whatever. As long as they Leave!!!

“I strongly doubt if this will become a big thing”

was last a Thing in the 70s during the Jim Jones, Jonestown era and the Attica Prison Riot time frame.

didn’t last that long back then and it won’t last long now. most of them will find out it’s MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better to be in America getting free everything and having everybody kissing your ass while you complain loudly about it every day, than being anywhere in Africa.

we are doomed to having 50 million africans getting a free 21st century life and bitching about it forever.

Consider Israel to be Western Civilization’s reparations award to the Jewish people.
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It isn’t. Local Jews (with some help from local Arabs and some remittances from abroad) have built Israel from the ground up.

Safe and effective” implies a context — as in “safe and effective COMPARED TO…”

How about compared to doing nothing. From your study . . .

Next, the researchers separately compared the rates of myocarditis in those who received the vaccines to those in unvaccinated individuals. According to the findings, the rates of myocarditis in people who were vaccinated against COVID-19 were only twofold higher than in unvaccinated people.

They could figure out everything they needed to know about the vax if they would just match up individual health records with vax records and see if — all else being equal (and that’s the key) — the vax was a net benefit or harm to outcomes.

No government will do the study or release the data. Which probably tells you that they know how it would come out.

“…is basic common sense. Slaves have no place in a free republic. Or a free monarchy, for that matter.”

The hostility in the North was more ethnic, crime concerns and competing labor. The topic is covered at http://slavenorth.com/. This is an extensive database, you may need to do some searching. Northerners never viewed freed blacks as anything but an unwanted nuisance. No doubt some objected on philosophical grounds that you suggest, but the majority didn’t want or like Blacks generally.

The British population had the same concerns. https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/africaatlse/2020/06/27/british-founding-sierra-leone-slave-trade/

“In 1772, a large number of slaves brought to England to work in domestic households were liberated, largely from the homes of absentee British plantation owners in the Caribbean. They were termed London’s ‘Black Poor’, along with African-Americans who served the British Army in the American Revolution (Black Loyalists), living in London in difficult conditions. Although no reliable data exists, it seems that around 15,000 black people were living at the time in Britain.”

“In 1786, the Committee for the Relief of the Black Poor proposed a scheme for repatriation to a territory in Africa where they could be free and govern themselves. High hopes were set, and the British Treasury fronted the project and provided other materials such as clothes, tools and weapons for the settlers. Though the effort received official support from the British authorities, the reasons impelling it were probably a ‘poisonous combination of hypocrisy and bigotry’. Accordingly, the objective was to rid Britain of black people, as they were seen as a threat to the purity of the white race.”

Note the PC explanation. Blacks in London had become criminals and a social burden.

You ask: “As for buying off the planters, with what?”

A large plantation was established in Alabama by a wealthy southern family called Hopewell that were also officers of the ACS where slaves could earn income in exchange for labor that could be used to finance resettlement to Liberia. The first black immigrants from the US were associated with Hopewell. Further it is a fiction that slaves never earned money. Many did as incentives for high level skills. Many earned their freedom this way. Jefferson Davis had a slave who acquired a patent on an invention that provided money with which freedom could be purchased. Much home construction was performed by skilled slaves who earned income. Not all slaves were cotton pickers.

Has Gaza been majority Christian recently? I thought the problem with that was aggressive Islam.

That goes back to the 7th century.

Bernard Lewis wrote of Arab “infiltration” into Gaza even before Mohammed’s time. The Great Mosque of Gaza started out as a Byzantine church, was captured by the Moslems, recaptured by the Crusaders for a short time, then destroyed and rebuilt as a mosque. The Church of St Porphirius also dates to the fifth century (AD!!), and was also Islamicized for a time, but is back to her roots today. It is of course Orthodox. So there has been a lot of back-and-forth over the years.

There is also a small Roman Catholic parish in Gaza, Holy Family. Both this and St Porphyrius are under their respective churches’ Patriarchate of Jerusalem.

Here is what you cited again, but with the beginning and end included, though for some reason you chose to omit it.

They found the risk of myocarditis was 15 times higher in COVID-19 patients, regardless of vaccination status, compared to individuals who did not contract the virus.

Next, the researchers separately compared the rates of myocarditis in those who received the vaccines to those in unvaccinated individuals. According to the findings, the rates of myocarditis in people who were vaccinated against COVID-19 were only twofold higher than in unvaccinated people.

Based on all the findings, the researchers concluded that the risk of myocarditis due to COVID-19 was seven times higher than the risk related to the vaccines.

“They could figure out everything they needed to know about the vax if they would just match up individual health records with vax records and see if — all else being equal (and that’s the key) — the vax was a net benefit or harm to outcomes. No government will do the study or release the data. “

No government, you say? Which of your Facebook/Youtube health experts made this bold and broad-based claim? Any sources or links? How do you think various governments (UK, US, Israel, etc…) did all these comparisons for death rates among vaxxed and unvaxxed in the first place? You think they just took wild guesses as to who was dead or who was vaxxed? Help us out — what exactly is your best guess as to how people went about compiling studies like these:

Weekly COVID-19 cases (April 4–December 25, 2021) and associated deaths (April 4–December 4, 2021) by vaccination status, including additional and booster doses starting October 3, were reported from 25 state and local health departments that routinely link case surveillance to vaccination data from immunization registries; 2- and 5-week reporting lag times for cases and deaths, respectively, allowed for more complete reporting, data linkage, and mortality ascertainment.

These papers were being spit out every couple of days in the months after the vaccine was released from a variety of sources (e.g. go to my comments page and put “Patone” in the search box and you’ll find several from the UK Oxford study that Martina Patone carried out). But you donfidently they were all just made up or something? The Dunning-Kruger is strong with you.

you could go from one end of Poland to the other and not meet a single Jew.

Not one still affiliated with the religion perhaps. Are you suggesting that Poland is bereft of conversos? FWIW, I know a Polish Catholic second generation immigrant, Catholic schools and all, with a surname where the internet provides lists of Rabbis and other persons of Jewish heritage as the most notable possessors of that surname. Is that a function of Jewish achievement, Jewish management of notables lists on the internet or an converso phenomenon? I’ve no idea.

To each his own I guess, but the last thing I would want is to have is 1000 chickens running around and squawking and pooping all over the place. This is a poor selling-point for “The life that can be yours in Africa!” In fact, if one of these lawfare judges really wanted to punish Trump, the judge could sentence him to keeping 1,000 chickens at his house.

Deep concern, probably already voiced: the type of pioneer who can pull this off, the type of free thinker who would even want to do this, is probably among the best of their people. If we must live with them, this right here is exactly the kind we would prefer.

*Some eat harmful arthropods
*They don’t run around all over the place, you pen them or orb them (like the boy in the plastic bubble)
*They can be SILENT or some breeds are very quiet
*They primarily defecate at night in their “bed,” not all over the place (this does not apply to batteries)
*If the government loses its mind and legitimacy and locks down again, you now have free fresh eggs every day without having to do whatever humiliation ritual they require to visit the grocery store
*What Thomas Jefferson said about the farmer who grows his own food on his own property yadda yadda yadda

The Jewish population of say France was pretty much French people who had Jewish ancestors. The Jewish population of Poland until modernity was very separate, conversion and intermarriage happened but really not very much. Also a lot of Polish names are derived from places, used by both groups, and unless it’s Rabbinowitz it’s not really proving much.

I’ll take your word for it, as you’re the only one here old enough to remember those days.

Perpetually Offended and Resentful, Blacks

PORBoys!

And African-Americans who grew up on farms and like to do some farming and have a lot of do-it-yourself skills.” LOL. What’s that, like a couple of dozen nationwide?

According to the Pigford settlements, which were famously on the up & up and totally not a grift, more than 40,000!

Now, the Palestinians might object and say that Israel was not England’s or the UN’s to give in the 1st place.

They’re right.

Legally it was the land of the defunct Ottoman Empire so it didn’t belong to the Palestinians either (they never had their own country).

This matters to no one. Normal people feel that the land “belongs” to who is there. The Arabs think the Jews invaded and took it from them. That’s basically accurate.

Ultimately Israel exists and will exist because Israelis are willing to defend it with their lives.

On this we agree. All this historical “we was robbed” stuff–like all the tired slavery and holocaust stuff–is moot. The Jews won, have built Israel, ain’t giving it up and have nukes making the point extra clear.

I wish my fellow Americans were similarly forceful in preserving our nation. A firm boot in the ass to the exit for any immigrationist zealots trying to steal our nation from us. Kick them out.
Zero tolerance.

Yum, lake trout or catfish? Just hold the onions

LOL. There’s a place called South Africa that has something to say about your plan.

I’ve never gotten anyone, friend, relative, or co-worker, to go in with me for anchovies on a pizza. Not even the co-worker adopted from Korea. She said, “Ugh! He wants fish!”

Frankly, Israel should welcome the Ugandan Jews. It is very sad and regretful that it has not done so so far.

ISRAEL CANNOT SURVIVE WITHOUT TRUE DIVERSITY!

Seems like Israel should welcome them in en masse, no?

It is highly regretful that the Israeli Ultra-Orthodox-led Interior Ministry did not feel the very same way about this issue:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/conservative-jewish-leaders-slam-israels-rejection-of-ugandan-jewish-immigrants/

Shame on Jewish religious fundamentalist intolerance and bigotry!

If you want an Israeli-style white ethnostate model for the US, then anyone who is at least 25% European and their immediate family members should be allowed into the US, similar to Israel’s Law of Return for people of Jewish descent. An extraordinarily massive number of Latin Americans would qualify to immigrate to the US under such criteria.

How about American Blacks and Jews getting together so that they can create a new homeland in Uganda where they can miscegenate into a new Afro-Zionist man. This would help the Jew lacking in the area of athletic ability and help the Negro who severely lacks in the area of intelligence. It could also go the other way creating a new race that’s smart, absolutely crazy and insanely violent. Oh, we’ve already got that in Israel with no African genetic input.

Better a thousand chickens than a dozen “migrants.”

The Jews won, have built Israel, ain’t giving it up and have nukes making the point extra clear

Many people viewed white South Africa the same way. Jewish power is unstable in Israel and elsewhere.

The Arabs think the Jews invaded and took it from them. That’s basically accurate.
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The Jewish population entered the territory legally, bought land legally, improved it legally, started businesses legally, built public institutions legally. For a period of 50 years. They also put up with violence from local Arabs. Local Arabs started another campaign of violence in late 1947, joined by Arab armies in May 1948. They lost the war they started with their own neighbors.

but even in that case, bulk of the gains was among the downscale; the upscale portion didn’t change

Do you have a reference for that? That is what I would expect (seen elsewhere with the Flynn Effect), but I would appreciate having more evidence.

P.S. Decent chance I can chase it down, but if you have it handy…

anchovies on a pizza

In the Twinkie family, anchovies and black olives are on the side when ordering pizza. Some like them, some don’t.

Normal people feel that the land “belongs” to who is there.

Whereas abnormal people…

The Jewish population entered the territory legally, bought land legally, improved it legally, started businesses legally, built public institutions legally

And none of that would have helped them had they lost the war in 1948, whereby they would’ve been massacred or expelled or both. Legitimacy is not asserted with paperwork but with real political and military power. The Arabs genuinely believe their land was taken from them and it doesn’t really matter whether that’s objectively true or false; what matters is they continue being hostile towards Israel and they keep losing.

Armenians could claim legal rights to Artsakh — now they’re all gone and none of those rights matter: they lost the war. The modern Turkish state is built on the corpses of Asia Minor’s Christian populations, but nobody bats an eye about that anymore and Mustafa Kemal was even honored by the United Nations. Would any of that have happened had he lost the war in 1922?

Do you have a reference for that? That is what I would expect (seen elsewhere with the Flynn Effect), but I would appreciate having more evidence.

I don’t have it handy. I read the breakdown of the IQ by either educational or income cohorts sometime ago and the top cohort didn’t change at all, middle changed slightly, and the bottom tier was where most of the gain was. I’ll look for it, but I have a feeling you’ll get to it before I do. I really should keep these data when I see them, but I keep forgetting.

I’d say it’s up to them. They already have a bunch of black Jews from Ethiopia.

(Note: I’m neither Jewish nor Israeli.)

(Note: I’m neither Jewish nor Israeli.)

Well, I’m a dual Israeli-US citizen and a quarter-Jewish. I’d say let them in!

I’d say it’s up to them. They already have a bunch of black Jews from Ethiopia.

Yeah, but if more blacks want to join the Jewish family, then why not? Apparently these Ugandan Jews have been at it for several decades or more, so it’s not like they’re simply starting out doing this.

(BTW, the original Ethiopian Jewish immigrants to Israel, the Beta Israel, were accepted without any questions about their Jewishness. But subsequent Ethiopian immigrants to Israel, the Falash Mura, who claim (probably truthfully for some and less truthfully for others) Ethiopian Jewish descent but also claim that their ancestors converted to Christianity in the 19th century or so, had to all undergo Orthodox conversions to Judaism before they were actually allowed to immigrate to Israel, and even afterwards, apparently some of them might have been faking their acceptance of Judaism and simply did this whole act and charade so that they could secure a better life in Israel:

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-755138

White Christians should also consider voting with their feet and find a place that’s more in line with our values. Our forefathers did; we can too.

There are plenty of countries to choose from. It’s a lot easier than one thinks. Your children and grandchildren will thank you.

Bought the land legally ? A bald faced lie

…. When the denial bubble bursts: an Israeli kibbutz faces the Nakba
Salman Abu Sitta , September 5, 2019……

https://www.plands.org/en/articles-speeches/articles/2019/when-the-denial-bubble-bursts-an-israeli-kibbutz-faces-the-nakba

‘…A State Department program or grant could partner US professionals to get some earnest blacks started over there…’

I take it you’re being humorous.

Someone here recommended the book Cotton and Race in the Making of America, by Gene Dattel, which I bought. My copy had been in a Massachusetts public library before it was cancelled.

‘…The Jews won, have built Israel, ain’t giving it up and have nukes making the point extra clear…’

The Jews will give up Israel when we pull the plug.

Can NGOs be set up to facilitate moving black Americans back to Africa? That would be helpful.

If we’re smart, the US will take in wised-up Europeans fleeing the coming Muslim takeover there. But we’re not smart, and they may not wise up.

Vdare published an article last September that examined this matter. The migration experts all said that the numbers were so small they weren’t worth paying attention to. Unz ran the article too.

https://vdare.com/articles/if-blacks-really-suffered-from-racism-in-america-they-d-head-for-black-majority-countries-and-they-don-t

https://www.unz.com/article/if-blacks-really-suffered-from-racism-in-america-theyd-head-for-black-majority-countries-and-they-dont/

It would have been easier and cheaper to declare slaves in the US illegal aliens, and deport them.

Shame such moral clarity was not extant in the lizard brains of our Southern planter-class, who no doubt were sure they could use the cheap labour of the newly freed men.

Not the best deal, but a far better deal than what we have now.

The time period you reference was Reconstruction. The South was an effective colony of the North at that time. Your argument is with the Republican party of that era.

Thanks for the info and the linked article.

If the Southern Planter-class had been for re-patriation, it would have happened. The Carpet Baggers simply capitalised on Southern Planters’ indifference.

My wife always keeps cans of anchovies on hand for pizza (also loves raw oysters, as do I) I like anchovies right out of the can but warm on a pizza not so much. Fish for breakfast is good

Israel was founded without America’s help. Prior to the 1970s, Israel’s main military supplier was France and they got a lot of economic assistance from Germany. Essentially nothing from the US government. Israel’s nuclear program exists as a result of French help. (Then at some point de Gaulle changed his mind and soured on Israel.)

The US gov. only got involved as a result of Cold War politics. The Soviets began backing the Arabs (Egypt and Syria) strongly and so we had to counter them according to Cold War logic.

Fast forward to today. Israel is a major weapons producer and has a strong economy. It receives some military assistance from the US but if this were to stop, it would change nothing.

The Jews aren’t leaving. Quit your idiotic fantasies. These are precisely the fantasies that have gotten so many Gazans killed. The Palestinians and you have to accept that Israel is not going away, that it is not going to be defeated militarily by them and that any attempt to make them go away is only going to result in more suffering of the Palestinians.

If Hamas had accepted that they could have spent the last couple of decades building infrastructure and an economic base instead of tunnels and rockets and the people of Gaza would have been infinitely better off. All they have to show for their tunnels and rockets is a ruined country that will take decades to rebuild and it’s entirely their own fault.

‘…If Hamas had accepted that they could have spent the last couple of decades building infrastructure and an economic base…’

Given that Israel likes to invade and level the place whenever her domestic politics require it, that’s unrealistic.

As to Israel surviving if we yanked her off the American teat — oh, I don’t think so.

But we can try it and see what happens! I’m all for that. How about you?

The legitimate autopsy proves George Floyd was not murdered, but died from a self inflicted drug overdose.

The legitimate autopsy reveals, proves, that George Floyd died of an self inflicted drug overdose. He was NOT murdered

When the bathtub is overflowing the first thing to do is turn off the faucet.

Somewhat O/T: The GOP gal politician who is going to challenge An[g]us King for his senate seat this fall said she in her announcement speech that she loves legal immigration and thinks it’s great that we bring in more than a million legal immigrants each year. Oh and Susan Collins is wonderful she said.

I won’t be voting for that.

Not a lie at all. Like many people here, you should stop listening to the voices in your head.

Again, American aid to Israel was inconsequential prior to 1973 and is of modest significance today at 1.2% of the country’s gross domestic income. You pull the plug and what happens is an ordinary business recession whose effects are worked out over the course of a business cycle.

You’re in a hole. Quit digging.
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Israel’s air force staged a raid on Baghdad in 1981 (demolishing a power plant) and one on Tunis in 1985 (demolishing the PLO HQ, not a Tunisian asset); they’ve had occasional dogfights with the Syrian air force. Otherwise, they haven’t been at war with an Arab state in 50 years. The last occasion was in 1973, when they were attacked by Egypt and Syria. The time prior to that was in 1969/70, because Egypt wished to amuse itself firing artillery at Israeli forces. The time prior to that was in 1967, when Egypt ordered UN buffer forces out of the Sinai, closed the Straits of Tiran, set up a makeshift ‘alliance’ with Syria and Jordan, and moved its troops to the border. It’s not that difficult to avoid being invaded by Israel.
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All of Israel’s violent conflicts over 50 years have been with paramilitaries, which actually would largely evaporate if Iran, various Arab states, and the UNRWA quit supplying them. One set of paramilitaries is ensconced in Lebanon. All they have to do to avoid armed conflict with Israel is to quit sending artillery shells and kidnappers over the border. Ditto the other two sets, which have, by the way, been on five separate occasions been offered amended institutional arrangements and twice been offered an Arab state on the West Bank and Gaza. They don’t have their state because they did not want that. They want dead Jews. For some strange reason, the Jews are unwilling to co-operate with that.

This is the reference I see for the overall effect.
The Flynn effect in Korea: large gains
http://www.iapsych.com/iqmr/fe/LinkedDocuments/nijenhuis2011ip_FE_Korea.pdf

The subtest splits for the gains are interesting.

The gains for Verbal, Performance, and Full Scale were, respectively, 1.6 IQ points, 16.0 IQ points, and 7.7 IQ points.

Not seeing the low/high change broken down there so looked at citing papers. This seemed most promising.
A Strong Flynn Effect in South Korea during the Second Half of the Twentieth Century
https://mankindquarterly.org/archive/issue/56-4/5

But I don’t see full text anywhere.

Only to chronic liars.

If the land didn’t belong to the Palestinians who have always been there, it sure doesn’t belong to Jews from Europe and elsewhere.

I worked on a “founder’s kibbutz” in the northern Galilee, and once found a bunch of pottery and debris while digging holes for citrus trees. I though it could be old artifacts, but the Israelis casually stated that we were digging in the ruins of an old Arab village. All of those early kibbutzim are built on the ruins of Arab towns and villages. The Israelis don’t deny that.

And foreign Jews bought very little of the land that was taken from the Palestinians.

https://www.palestineremembered.com

As to Israel surviving if we yanked her off the American teat — oh, I don’t think so.

I think you are overestimating the financial aspect and underestimating the political aspect.
https://globalaffairs.org/bluemarble/how-us-has-used-its-power-un-support-israel-decades

The U.S. has vetoed resolutions critical of Israel more than any other council member – 45 times as of December 18, 2023, according to an analysis by Blue Marble. The U.S. has vetoed 89 Security Council resolutions in total since 1945, meaning slightly over half of its vetoes have been used on resolutions critical of Israel. Of the vetoed resolutions, 33 pertained to the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories or the country’s treatment of the Palestinian people.

The first time the U.S. used its veto to support Israel was in September of 1972, when it vetoed a resolution that called on Israel to cease its aggression in Lebanon. This was the second time the U.S. had ever used its Security Council veto; the first was on a resolution regarding Southern Rhodesia.

It is interesting how before 1972 excessive use of the Security Council veto was seen as a Soviet evil.

The veto was used sparingly until 1972

Before 1972, most permanent council members used their veto power sparingly. The U.K. used its veto five times, France used its four times, and the U.S. and China used theirs once each. Russia (which was the Soviet Union at the time), on the other hand, used its veto power 109 times between 1946 and 1971. That means in those 25 years, Russia used its veto an average of more than four times every year – more than the U.S. or China used in the entirety of the same period.

Full list of vetoed Security Council resolutions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vetoed_United_Nations_Security_Council_resolutions

The UN accomplishes very little. That aside, rather pathological the amount of the UN’s time is taken up gassing about one country with a current population of 9 million.

The UN accomplishes very little.

Yes. And Security Council veto obstructionism plays a big part in that.

That aside, rather pathological the amount of the UN’s time is taken up gassing about one country with a current population of 9 million.

One might consider the more pathological aspect is how much bad behavior “one country with a current population of 9 million” indulges in.

I feel ambitious Black Americans should increasingly consider leaving the United States for growing African metropolises or towards Southeast Asia and China.

The Black American story is largely finished, Black Americans have largely lost and will continue losing out to more… pic.twitter.com/gy6UDb8Hw4

— OK Then (@okaythenme) February 23, 2024

No, the pathology is yours. Israel’s behavior is satisfactory.
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The UN hoovers up a lot of cash. It can only accomplish something if a set of its member states provides the muscle. Now identify a circumstance when UN forces went into combat. There have been two occasions of consequence, both of them more than sixty years ago and both of the crucially dependent on the United States supplying troops.

Well, what we have now mostly involves cognitive elites moving to the US from parts of the world that aren’t the Western Hemisphere. We get relatively few working-class immigrants from the “Old World”. Our working-class immigrants largely/mostly come from the Western Hemisphere, where most of them are likely 25+% white or the immediate family member (such as a minor child) of someone who is.

https://jsmp.dk/posts/2019-09-26-braindrain/immigration.html

No problem!

FWIW, before the gigantic October 7 Hamas terrorist attack on Israel, some right-wing Israeli Jewish jackass politicians wanted to repeal or at least amend the Grandchild Clause of Israel’s Law of Return, thus preventing people with Jewish grandfathers but without Jewish grandmothers from immigrating to Israel. These plans of theirs appear to have been indefinitely postponed as a result of October 7. I just hope that these plans of theirs will never get revived.

It would be at the height of repulsiveness to allow people with a single Jewish grandmother and three gentile grandparents to immigrate to Israel even if they spent their entire lives identifying as gentiles but not to allow people with one or two Jewish grandfathers but no Jewish grandmothers to likewise immigrate to Israel.

Who bombs hospitals? Or schools? Nearly 50k dead civilians now. You know that you’re sick in the head right? If I knew you IRL I’d keep my kids far away from your bloodlust.

I’m guessing the best prospects are pensioners who are fairly young, like 40-somethings newly retired from the military

I would think this as well, as the pension is designed to keep you in the same style of living as when you were working. If you intentionally choose to live in a place with a much lower standard of living, you can live like King Jaffee Joffer and Queen Aoleon. Now, if you have to move to Africa and actually earn a living there, you might have a rougher road to hoe.

Which African countries work out best for African Americans?

I would think a country like Ghana, which was the first sub-Saharan country to achieve full independence and has English as its only official language. It is also in the top 5 in Africa on the least corrupt index.

In terms of climate, it is only 5 degrees north of the equator, with the average daily high being 88.3°. Ironically, the temperature is at its coolest in July and August (83.3°) and the warmest in February and March (91.4°).

Let’s speed up the process.

Cut them off completely.

Even though most American blacks descend from the West African stock, that doesn’t mean there has been no selection effect operating on the former.

Been studying the Flynn Effect forever. I’m probably an expert on it by now. In fact, I used to send my articles on it to Jim Flynn himself to look over and critique, as Jim was an acquaintance of mine. I’ve been studying the US versus African Black IQ issue forever, and I am absolutely certain that there has been a strong rise in Black IQ here in the US. Black IQ in the US is ~85.

In Africa and the Caribbean it is ~70. Black Americans probably had 70 IQ’s when they showed up. I’m not sure when they started rising, but studies of skulls show that both Whites and Blacks have been selecting for more progressive skull features since Revolutionary times. That would mean selection for less prognathism for instance.

In fact, Black and White skulls are converging such that we look more like present day Blacks than we look like our Revolutionary ancestors! Whites of 1776 were much more prognathous than Whites of today, believe it or not. Same with Blacks. They look more like us than they like their revolutionary ancestors. Maybe the convergence is some sort of “future man.” I am thinking the convergence is towards a “neotenous” human.

Most of the Black change towards progressive skull features occurred after the Civil War in the First Liberation of the Blacks. With this Liberation, Blacks could now work in professions and make some money. Perhaps women were selecting more for men who made money as they had higher IQ’s. And progressive features and IQ tend to be linked. There also may have been an effect towards men selecting women with Whiter, more progressive features, as we know well that they do that even now. Why they didn’t select for this in slave days is not known.

It’s well known that the 15 point rise cannot be explained by the 25% White genes US Blacks have. That only accounts for half of it. So that leavers 7-8 points unexplained. There may also have been epigenetic effects. The effects were not environmentally based and in Blacks did not seem to be fully explained by White admixture. Instead it appeared to be an effect of genetic selection.

Blacks here in the US, as much as they bitch, have benefited in many ways from living here. A full 15 point IQ gain is nothing to shake a stick at. US Blacks are the largest most intelligent and accomplished Blacks on Earth. They cry all the time, but maybe they should be proud of this. Also they have become dramatically more civilized culturally via 300 years exposure to White Christian culture. When they first came here, many were little more than animals.

And the many Jewish attacks on Syria and to a lesser extent Iraq and Iran do not constitute war? I think not especially in the case of Syria. Also the Jews’ bombing of Lebanon is arguably a war against the Lebanese state. Certainly the nuclear bomb the Jews used against the Arabs in Beirut was a war on Lebanon.

Yeah. US military aid to Israel is inconsequential. Pull the other one brother.

The “teat” is misleadingly small; with it come the power to extort and the
“full faith and credit” i.e. the Germans would stop paying (there goes half
the “GDP”) and hyperinflation would be inevitable.
The Usurping Entity, like Saudi Arabia and the US, is addicted to chronic
overspending backed by little – to pay off a somewhat problematic population.

No, the pathology is yours.

Nothing quite like making the conversation personal, is there? Always interesting to see which struck nerves make people go there.

Israel’s behavior is satisfactory.

Opinions differ on that. If you think Israel’s post-October 7th behavior in Gaza has been satisfactory I would hate to see what you consider unsatisfactory.

“Safe” is not the same as “effective”, no matter how much Covid Inc. conflated the concepts to avoid having to argue either issue. Is chicken soup safe? Is it effective?

The efficacy/inefficacy of HCQ for Covid has nothing to with its efficacy for malaria, despite your non sequitur. The SAFETY of HCQ and ivermectin FOR HUMANS has been proven for many decades, despite the Left’s unwarranted assumption that Covid somehow changed that, with no evidence. Their sudden insistence that ivermectin could only be used for equine heart worm was equally novel and unsupported

The conflation of safety with effectiveness was a useful way to short circuit counter arguments in favor of HCQ and ivermectin, as were Anderson Cooper’s stern visage and penetrating gaze also very persuasive, but his repeated concern trolling about them not being “safe for Covid”was a tell that he was actually worried about the safety of Covid, not the safety of humans who might be harmed by either the virus or the jab

No dice. No way I would want obama or his daughters in my country.

[cont´d]
The diamond monopoly would go to India, the Chinese would have to buy
their US military secrets elsewhere, and the “strong banks” would sniff
the breeze and make pleite (yid. “bankruptcy” lit. “flight”).
“Israel” would aptly poof! go up in smoke like Dracula.

On this we agree. All this historical “we was robbed” stuff–like all the tired slavery and holocaust stuff–is moot. The Jews won, have built Israel, ain’t giving it up and have nukes making the point extra clear.

Might makes right. I can’t believe how many of you reactionary throwbacks still pitch this Victorian crap. Since 1945, you don’t get to do that anymore. Might doesn’t make right anymore, boys and girls. There’s such a thing as international law, much to the chagrin of you Social Darwinist maniacs.

Ghana and Botswana are said to be the most advanced nations in black Africa.

Ghana’s a shithole. What are you talking about? I know Blacks and Whites who have both been there, and they both confirmed this. Also, it is ground zero for Internet crime from the spillover from the criminal race called “Nigerians,” who are as wicked as Gypsies, another criminal race.

What are you talking about? “Advanced” is scarcely an idea I would use for anywhere in Black Africa, but Botswana does all right, thought they are cruel to the Khoisan. The British put in a very good and fair system of laws there and after independence it was left largely in place and some think this may account for the more civilized behavior of these folks. Gabon has a very high per capita income, but it’s still a shithole where 40% of the population is malnourished because the tribe or clique that runs the show of course doesn’t share the wealth.

“And African-Americans who grew up on farms and like to do some farming and have a lot of do-it-yourself skills.” LOL. What’s that, like a couple of dozen nationwide? Picking cotton was about as close to “farming” as any blacks have gotten.

Racist crap. There are many, many Black small farmers in the Southern US. There’s a very long tradition of this. Or are you one of those, “N_rs are too dumb to grow food!” types?

“Moreover, blacks coexisting in societies with whites and Asians are always* going to experience problems competing cognitively with the latter, which inevitably results in resentment and demand for “equity.” So, there will be what I call “oppositional culture” that will make the presence of large number of blacks in non-black societies highly problematic to say the least.”

This is surely a true statement. It should be common knowledge but saying this in public will get you accused of hate speech for indulging in hate facts.

Even with the current war, more Gazans are being born than are dying so their population is only going up.

Yeah that’s bullshit, (((Jack D))).

The Jews have murdered 1.5% of the civilian population of Gaza in the last four months. You are trying to tell me that 30,000 babies got born in Gaza in the last four months when Jews were murdering pregnant women trying to go to hospitals? When Jews were pulling the plugs on babies’ incubators (How evil can these Jews get)?

No, 30,000 babies did not get born in Gaza in the last four months, you (((congenital liar))).

A small population (0.001% max) who have high IQ, high law-abidingness and love or at least have no hatred of White people/culture can live in a White society. Blacks like Candance Owens, Tommy Sotomayor, Pastor Peterson etc…

No, 30,000 babies did not get born in Gaza in the last four months, you (((congenital liar))).

Well, it’s possible — but it’s also somewhat beside the point.

Even the Nazis had to hide their crimes from the German people. The Jews of Israel celebrate their crimes and revel in them.

Israeli Jews — and the American Jews who support them — have damned themselves as no people ever has before.

‘As to Israel surviving if we yanked her off the American teat — oh, I don’t think so.

I think you are overestimating the financial aspect and underestimating the political aspect.’

By ‘teat’ I meant all aspects of our support, not just the financial.

File Israel with North Korea and see how long it lasts.

“Satisfactory”

Art Deco, If the soldiers of any other country behaved the way Israelis did. If the leaders of any country made public statements like Israel’s have, would you call them “satisfactory.”

This extreme Semitophilism from Angloid goyim is weird. Israeli politicians would sacrifice your money and your children without hesitation. The Saudis are very similar. Absolute sense of entitlement.

This goes beyond cold calculation. Certainly, Putin or President Xie don’t have our best interests at heart, but I doubt they operate with the sense of absolute certainty that American lives and money are theirs to command.

Not blaming Netanyahu or the Saudis, it’s in their nature. The blame lies entirely on Angloids who are excessive in their support and infatuation of the Israeli state for whatever reason: Dispensationalist heresy, misplaced nationalism, American century nostalgia, neoconservatism. It’s ok to not like Sunni Islamists and want to kill them and still think Israel is evil here.

These slavish Semitophile sorts, you included, bear the blame for every penny we send driving up our debt and inflation and every action the Israelis take. Every toddler in Gaza who dies in pain and misery is a weight on your soul. God is just. Think about that.

Abraham Lincoln and Henry Clay would not object to this arrangement.

Who says this? This sounds wildly wrong.

Jack’s not a congenital liar, he’s a downright good source when he’s talking about something he actually understands.
For a certain kind of person with a certain life experience, hearing word of Israel’s military successes (especially as reported by our media) is like going from total loneliness to somehow three women are fighting over you and the fourth couldn’t wait so she’s just climbing aboard.

You mean, the vast majority of Latin Americans would qualify. And Brazil.

The problem is that their offspring will more than likely regress to the mean of typical negro behaviors.

Thanks. As often as I have looked at that data I have never seen it plotted like that. The first graphic is a great example of “one of these is not like the others.”

The diamond monopoly would go to India

Now that lab grown diamonds are here the diamond monopoly is not what it once was.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2011/10/25/190079/how-the-worlds-oldest-diamond-monopoly-is-trying-to-become-an-it-juggernaut/
https://fortune.com/2023/09/03/diamond-demand-falling-lab-grown-stones-de-beers-cutting-cutting-prices/

In Soviet times (synthetic diamonds were not as routine then but feasible
enough) (((DeBeers))) was able to stare them down (!) but like everything else
it is creaking, yes (it is a bit eerie how total Jewish control of the diamond
market in the “West” is – getting expelled every few years shapes preferences).
The war in Sierra Leone and the “blood diamond” racket were their last real
hurrah 😬

I’m sure it will require more gene therapy to mutate the human genome even farther .

You can mutate the White genome by miscegenating Whites with blacks and Amerindians. What do you think those millions of foreign “military age” men are for?

Someone here recommended the book Cotton and Race in the Making of America, by Gene Dattel, which I bought. My copy had been in a Massachusetts public library before it was cancelled.

You mean you bought a copy of the book for yourself, donated it to the library, and then it was removed?

If you want an Israeli-style white ethnostate model for the US, then anyone who is at least 25% European and their immediate family members should be allowed into the US

Your post is an asinine attempt at cleverness. Having a White America does not require any further immigration.

If the Southern Planter-class had been for re-patriation, it would have happened. The Carpet Baggers simply capitalised on Southern Planters’ indifference.

It wasn’t indifference, it was sympathy and compassion. Most so-called “slaves” were part of the fabric of the community. Many were like family.

I think you are overestimating the financial aspect and underestimating the political aspect.

And both of you are overlooking the military aspect. Over the past 45 years, the United States has bombed or had boots on the ground in most of the countries that the Zionists view as rivals/threats, or that have populations that the Zionists view as potential threats to their supremacist project.

Last I checked, the United States had stationed an aircraft carrier off shore of Palestine to support the Zionists’ massacre of Gazans.

This extreme Semitophilism from Angloid goyim is weird.

Are you sure Art Deco isn’t of jewish descent?

Typical limey claptrap.
I’ve already suggested the perfect African destination for ALL Blacks who live in the United States. It is The Central African Republic.
Virgin territory ripe for development. A new land for an old people.
Get on board Letisha. This is a limited time offer.

As I recall, someone posted the data sliced by income or education (of parents) cohorts on Twitter, I think.

The Jews aren’t leaving. Quit your idiotic fantasies.

This is an inversion of the Likudnik (and their diaspora Jewish backers of certain generations) fantasy that if they just penned up the Palestinians as stateless people or ethnically cleanse Judea and Samaria and even Gaza and drove them into Egypt or Jordan, they’ll have lasting peace.

https://theweek.com/politics/israel-gaza-hamas-postwar-netanyahu-palestine

This week, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu offered his clearest proposal for what a post-war Gaza might look like, delivering a “day after” plan to his war cabinet on Thursday. Netanyahu described a scenario in which Israel maintains indefinite military control over the compact Palestinian territory, while delegating civil authority to residents that will “not be identified with countries or entities that support terrorism and will not receive payment from them.” [Boldface mine.]

Talk about a fantasy.

Thanks for the info. Just as well Oct 7 derailed the plan.

Who bombs hospitals? Or schools? Nearly 50k dead civilians now. You know that you’re sick in the head right? If I knew you IRL I’d keep my kids far away from your bloodlust.

Hamas accused Israel of bombing a hospital in the opening days of the war. Video evidence showed that a rocket fired from Gaza fell short and landed in a hospital parking lot. Hamas has been lying about this, claiming 500 dead, when in fact no one died and in any case they fired the rocket.

You can’t believe anything they say. Hamas is fighting the war not on the battlefield but by propaganda. And you’re falling for it.

Jews are not pulling plugs on incubators. In some cases, power may have gone off due to the fighting. But even here Hamas lies constantly: saying the power is off while releasing photos showing the lights on.

The IDF does not deliberately target civilians. Hamas has a habit of storing weapons beneath or inside schools and mosques. This way if IDF targets the weapons stores they can screech about Israel hitting schools and mosques.

You are confusing your timeline.

Carpet baggers came after the war and the repatriation exercise began long before the war at a time when there were still slaves in the North. These were slaves that northern states such as Illinois ensured were purchased by southerners as opposed to liberation in state or elsewhere. The relevant law prohibited selling anything less than all of one’s slaves. In other words, the law disincentivized giving Illinois slaves their freedom unless one was willing to take a bath on all of their slave property. Few enough in either the North or the South were willing or able to do so because slaves constituted collateral for loans.

That few could dispose of their slave collateral helps explain the genesis of the earned freedom program at Hopewell in Alabama.

The majority of Northerners, to the extent they thought about slaves at all and didn’t own any, were interested in seeing slaves relocated out of their states but they made no greater effort to pay to remove them than did southerners. Maybe less. And when they did dispose of them they tended to keep them enslaved by selling them to southerners. In other words, many southern slaves were the issue of former northern slaves or were the relocated slaves themselves.