2022 Was, by Lousy 2020s Standards, a Pretty Good Year
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Looking at the CDC multiple cause of death data for people under age 45, it’s clear that 2022 was the best year so far in this lousy decade. After deaths of younger Americans shot up 22% in 2020 over 2019 and 12% in 2021, total deaths (all causes) dropped approaching 9% in 2022:
| age 0 to 44 | 2018 | 199,034 | 190,831,906 | 104.3 | |
| 2019 | 201,373 | 190,857,821 | 105.5 | 1.2% | |
| 2020 | 245,956 | 191,054,948 | 128.7 | 22.1% | |
| 2021 | 274,481 | 192,554,292 | 142.5 | 11.6% | |
| 2022 | 251,007 | 192,554,292 | 130.4 | -8.6% |
Total deaths among younger Americans are still up almost one-fourth versus the Good Old Days of 2019, but reductions in deaths since 2021 were broadly distributed across many different causes.
Covid deaths were down by two-thirds. The mysterious “Other and unspecified infectious and parasitic diseases and their sequelae” (which I suspect is often people dropping dead due to covid reducing their ability to fight their long-term chronic diseases like diabetes) was down 57%.
After nearly doubling from 2019 to 2021, diabetes deaths dropped 20% from 2021 to 2022. Major Cardiovascular Diseases, after shooting upwards in 2020 and 2021 were down 11% in 2022. Pneumonia dropped 55%
Alcoholic liver disease deaths in younger Americans had soared 50% in 2020 and 16% in 2021, but fell 6% in 2022. That’s not nearly enough, but at least it didn’t get worse.
Kidney related deaths declined 12% after huge increases in 2020 and 2021.
Even drug overdoses (“accidental poisonings), which had seemed like an unstoppable juggernaut of death since fentanyl emerged in the mid 2010s, were down 3% in 2022.
| MCD – ICD-10 113 Cause List | 2018 | 2019 | 2020 | 2021 | 2022 | Chg 2019 | Chg 2020 | Chg 2021 | Chg 2022 |
| Salmonella infections (A01-A02) | <10 | <10 | 10 | 18 | 19 | 80% | 6% | ||
| Shigellosis and amebiasis (A03,A06) | 0 | <10 | <10 | <10 | <10 | ||||
| Certain other intestinal infections (A04,A07-A09) | 607 | 591 | 574 | 670 | 605 | -3% | -3% | 17% | -10% |
| Tuberculosis (A16-A19) | 80 | 74 | 96 | 98 | 103 | -8% | 30% | 2% | 5% |
| Respiratory tuberculosis (A16) | 53 | 47 | 73 | 68 | 72 | -11% | 55% | -7% | 6% |
| Other tuberculosis (A17-A19) | 27 | 28 | 25 | 30 | 31 | 4% | -11% | 20% | 3% |
| Whooping cough (A37) | <10 | <10 | <10 | <10 | <10 | ||||
| Scarlet fever and erysipelas (A38,A46) | 0 | 0 | 0 | <10 | <10 | ||||
| Meningococcal infection (A39) | 15 | 16 | 22 | 12 | 18 | 7% | 38% | -45% | 50% |
| Septicemia (A40-A41) | 8336 | 8389 | 10645 | 13139 | 11027 | 1% | 27% | 23% | -16% |
| Syphilis (A50-A53) | 19 | 35 | 30 | 41 | 76 | 84% | -14% | 37% | 85% |
| Acute poliomyelitis (A80) | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||
| Arthropod-borne viral encephalitis (A83-A84,A85.2) | 0 | <10 | 0 | <10 | 0 | ||||
| Measles (B05) | 0 | <10 | 0 | 0 | <10 | ||||
| Viral hepatitis (B15-B19) | 878 | 831 | 956 | 959 | 860 | -5% | 15% | 0% | -10% |
| Human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) disease (B20-B24) | 1479 | 1437 | 1614 | 1633 | 1678 | -3% | 12% | 1% | 3% |
| Malaria (B50-B54) | <10 | <10 | <10 | <10 | <10 | ||||
| Other and unspecified infectious and parasitic diseases and their sequelae (A00,A05,A20-A36,A42-A44,A48-A49,A54-A79,A81-A82,A85.0-A85.1,A85.8,A86-B04,B06-B09,B25-B49,B55-B99,U07.1,U09.9) | 2832 | 3086 | 13751 | 30233 | 12997 | 9% | 346% | 120% | -57% |
| Malignant neoplasms (C00-C97) | 17719 | 17693 | 18195 | 18542 | 18674 | 0% | 3% | 2% | 1% |
| Malignant neoplasms of lip, oral cavity and pharynx (C00-C14) | 286 | 279 | 283 | 321 | 321 | -2% | 1% | 13% | 0% |
| Malignant neoplasm of esophagus (C15) | 270 | 300 | 266 | 289 | 281 | 11% | -11% | 9% | -3% |
| Malignant neoplasm of stomach (C16) | 600 | 601 | 631 | 592 | 639 | 0% | 5% | -6% | 8% |
| Malignant neoplasms of colon, rectum and anus (C18-C21) | 1926 | 1860 | 2111 | 2184 | 2150 | -3% | 13% | 3% | -2% |
| Malignant neoplasms of liver and intrahepatic bile ducts (C22) | 533 | 542 | 558 | 576 | 602 | 2% | 3% | 3% | 5% |
| Malignant neoplasm of pancreas (C25) | 533 | 569 | 559 | 595 | 613 | 7% | -2% | 6% | 3% |
| Malignant neoplasm of larynx (C32) | 27 | 27 | 42 | 32 | 35 | 0% | 56% | -24% | 9% |
| Malignant neoplasms of trachea, bronchus and lung (C33-C34) | 973 | 953 | 982 | 987 | 985 | -2% | 3% | 1% | 0% |
| Malignant melanoma of skin (C43) | 475 | 454 | 470 | 415 | 435 | -4% | 4% | -12% | 5% |
| Malignant neoplasm of breast (C50) | 2319 | 2472 | 2327 | 2412 | 2390 | 7% | -6% | 4% | -1% |
| Malignant neoplasm of cervix uteri (C53) | 779 | 776 | 862 | 944 | 784 | 0% | 11% | 10% | -17% |
| Malignant neoplasms of corpus uteri and uterus, part unspecified (C54-C55) | 245 | 268 | 261 | 324 | 279 | 9% | -3% | 24% | -14% |
| Malignant neoplasm of ovary (C56) | 425 | 424 | 445 | 456 | 473 | 0% | 5% | 2% | 4% |
| Malignant neoplasm of prostate (C61) | 28 | 31 | 38 | 26 | 30 | 11% | 23% | -32% | 15% |
| Malignant neoplasms of kidney and renal pelvis (C64-C65) | 389 | 347 | 386 | 369 | 367 | -11% | 11% | -4% | -1% |
| Malignant neoplasm of bladder (C67) | 85 | 106 | 92 | 99 | 132 | 25% | -13% | 8% | 33% |
| Malignant neoplasms of meninges, brain and other parts of central nervous system (C70-C72) | 2001 | 1911 | 2026 | 1971 | 1986 | -4% | 6% | -3% | 1% |
| Malignant neoplasms of lymphoid, hematopoietic and related tissue (C81-C96) | 2620 | 2626 | 2596 | 2639 | 2711 | 0% | -1% | 2% | 3% |
| Hodgkin disease (C81) | 159 | 156 | 162 | 174 | 154 | -2% | 4% | 7% | -11% |
| Non-Hodgkin lymphoma (C82-C85) | 700 | 716 | 676 | 723 | 704 | 2% | -6% | 7% | -3% |
| Leukemia (C91-C95) | 1690 | 1666 | 1677 | 1643 | 1759 | -1% | 1% | -2% | 7% |
| Multiple myeloma and immunoproliferative neoplasms (C88,C90) | 92 | 115 | 100 | 117 | 113 | 25% | -13% | 17% | -3% |
| Other and unspecified malignant neoplasms of lymphoid, hematopoietic and related tissue (C96) | <10 | <10 | 12 | 10 | 11 | -17% | 10% | ||
| All other and unspecified malignant neoplasms (C17,C23-C24,C26-C31,C37-C41,C44-C49,C51-C52,C57-C60,C62-C63,C66,C68-C69,C73-C80,C97) | 5429 | 5513 | 5847 | 5990 | 6185 | 2% | 6% | 2% | 3% |
| In situ neoplasms, benign neoplasms and neoplasms of uncertain or unknown behavior (D00-D48) | 796 | 827 | 882 | 876 | 922 | 4% | 7% | -1% | 5% |
| Anemias (D50-D64) | 1978 | 2104 | 2645 | 3136 | 2829 | 6% | 26% | 19% | -10% |
| Diabetes mellitus (E10-E14) | 6760 | 6746 | 10602 | 12199 | 9749 | 0% | 57% | 15% | -20% |
| Nutritional deficiencies (E40-E64) | 866 | 943 | 1159 | 1321 | 1433 | 9% | 23% | 14% | 8% |
| Malnutrition (E40-E46) | 832 | 903 | 1107 | 1252 | 1345 | 9% | 23% | 13% | 7% |
| Other nutritional deficiencies (E50-E64) | 38 | 40 | 54 | 72 | 91 | 5% | 35% | 33% | 26% |
| Meningitis (G00,G03) | 349 | 291 | 319 | 324 | 365 | -17% | 10% | 2% | 13% |
| Parkinson disease (G20-G21) | 37 | 27 | 27 | 38 | 34 | -27% | 0% | 41% | -11% |
| Alzheimer disease (G30) | 15 | 15 | 22 | 25 | 17 | 0% | 47% | 14% | -32% |
| Major cardiovascular diseases (I00-I78) | 42476 | 43239 | 54030 | 60874 | 54007 | 2% | 25% | 13% | -11% |
| Diseases of heart (I00-I09,I11,I13,I20-I51) | 36950 | 37474 | 46623 | 52224 | 46589 | 1% | 24% | 12% | -11% |
| Acute rheumatic fever and chronic rheumatic heart diseases (I00-I09) | 305 | 305 | 398 | 420 | 380 | 0% | 30% | 6% | -10% |
| Hypertensive heart disease (I11) | 5682 | 5985 | 7399 | 7987 | 7713 | 5% | 24% | 8% | -3% |
| Hypertensive heart and renal disease (I13) | 257 | 262 | 306 | 392 | 392 | 2% | 17% | 28% | 0% |
| Ischemic heart diseases (I20-I25) | 8442 | 8585 | 10227 | 10971 | 10109 | 2% | 19% | 7% | -8% |
| Acute myocardial infarction (I21-I22) | 3018 | 2985 | 3625 | 3898 | 3433 | -1% | 21% | 8% | -12% |
| Other acute ischemic heart diseases (I24) | 173 | 202 | 227 | 295 | 261 | 17% | 12% | 30% | -12% |
| Other forms of chronic ischemic heart disease (I20,I25) | 6234 | 6393 | 7498 | 7939 | 7453 | 3% | 17% | 6% | -6% |
| Atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease, so described (I25.0) | 2981 | 3139 | 3726 | 4041 | 4026 | 5% | 19% | 8% | 0% |
| All other forms of chronic ischemic heart disease (I20,I25.1-I25.9) | 3325 | 3342 | 3872 | 3981 | 3540 | 1% | 16% | 3% | -11% |
| Other heart diseases (I26-I51) | 27666 | 27950 | 34836 | 39681 | 34738 | 1% | 25% | 14% | -12% |
| Acute and subacute endocarditis (I33) | 907 | 828 | 919 | 935 | 792 | -9% | 11% | 2% | -15% |
| Diseases of pericardium and acute myocarditis (I30-I31,I40) | 644 | 686 | 792 | 847 | 780 | 7% | 15% | 7% | -8% |
| Heart failure (I50) | 3902 | 4022 | 5097 | 5590 | 5502 | 3% | 27% | 10% | -2% |
| All other forms of heart disease (I26-I28,I34-I38,I42-I49,I51) | 24558 | 24835 | 30913 | 35407 | 30723 | 1% | 24% | 15% | -13% |
| Essential hypertension and hypertensive renal disease (I10,I12,I15) | 5042 | 5248 | 7664 | 9013 | 7505 | 4% | 46% | 18% | -17% |
| Cerebrovascular diseases (I60-I69) | 5201 | 5393 | 6111 | 6798 | 6476 | 4% | 13% | 11% | -5% |
| Atherosclerosis (I70) | 244 | 228 | 270 | 256 | 235 | -7% | 18% | -5% | -8% |
| Other diseases of circulatory system (I71-I78) | 1311 | 1413 | 1528 | 1645 | 1646 | 8% | 8% | 8% | 0% |
| Aortic aneurysm and dissection (I71) | 633 | 705 | 701 | 728 | 713 | 11% | -1% | 4% | -2% |
| Other diseases of arteries, arterioles and capillaries (I72-I78) | 697 | 726 | 853 | 933 | 957 | 4% | 17% | 9% | 3% |
| Other disorders of circulatory system (I80-I99) | 2588 | 2761 | 3408 | 3930 | 3720 | 7% | 23% | 15% | -5% |
| Influenza and pneumonia (J09-J18) | 5913 | 5976 | 11068 | 19901 | 9650 | 1% | 85% | 80% | -52% |
| Influenza (J09-J11) | 732 | 701 | 856 | 86 | 746 | -4% | 22% | -90% | 767% |
| Pneumonia (J12-J18) | 5229 | 5323 | 10265 | 19824 | 8966 | 2% | 93% | 93% | -55% |
| Other acute lower respiratory infections (J20-J22,U04) | 182 | 215 | 136 | 151 | 181 | 18% | -37% | 11% | 20% |
| Acute bronchitis and bronchiolitis (J20-J21) | 157 | 184 | 102 | 123 | 152 | 17% | -45% | 21% | 24% |
| Other and unspecified acute lower respiratory infections (J22,U04) | 25 | 31 | 34 | 28 | 29 | 24% | 10% | -18% | 4% |
| Chronic lower respiratory diseases (J40-J47) | 2967 | 3095 | 4274 | 4337 | 3768 | 4% | 38% | 1% | -13% |
| Bronchitis, chronic and unspecified (J40-J42) | 116 | 121 | 112 | 115 | 103 | 4% | -7% | 3% | -10% |
| Emphysema (J43) | 199 | 214 | 252 | 236 | 231 | 8% | 18% | -6% | -2% |
| Asthma (J45-J46) | 1602 | 1772 | 2570 | 2675 | 2240 | 11% | 45% | 4% | -16% |
| Other chronic lower respiratory diseases (J44,J47) | 1128 | 1053 | 1420 | 1387 | 1268 | -7% | 35% | -2% | -9% |
| Pneumoconioses and chemical effects (J60-J66,J68,U07.0) | <10 | 45 | 46 | 54 | 45 | 2% | 17% | -17% | |
| Pneumonitis due to solids and liquids (J69) | 1281 | 1351 | 1635 | 1864 | 1940 | 5% | 21% | 14% | 4% |
| Other diseases of respiratory system (J00-J06,J30- J39,J67,J70-J98) | 13847 | 14141 | 20256 | 29585 | 19316 | 2% | 43% | 46% | -35% |
| Peptic ulcer (K25-K28) | 237 | 209 | 268 | 383 | 312 | -12% | 28% | 43% | -19% |
| Diseases of appendix (K35-K38) | 71 | 63 | 72 | 101 | 82 | -11% | 14% | 40% | -19% |
| Hernia (K40-K46) | 120 | 114 | 145 | 155 | 186 | -5% | 27% | 7% | 20% |
| Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis (K70,K73-K74) | 5578 | 6056 | 8828 | 10238 | 9612 | 9% | 46% | 16% | -6% |
| Alcoholic liver disease (K70) | 3929 | 4324 | 6496 | 7526 | 7058 | 10% | 50% | 16% | -6% |
| Other chronic liver disease and cirrhosis (K73-K74) | 1749 | 1863 | 2507 | 2886 | 2699 | 7% | 35% | 15% | -6% |
| Cholelithiasis and other disorders of gallbladder (K80-K82) | 185 | 172 | 191 | 197 | 239 | -7% | 11% | 3% | 21% |
| Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis (N00-N07,N17-N19,N25-N27) | 5548 | 5690 | 7464 | 10430 | 9163 | 3% | 31% | 40% | -12% |
| Acute and rapidly progressive nephritic and nephrotic syndrome (N00-N01,N04) | 77 | 60 | 104 | 130 | 103 | -22% | 73% | 25% | -21% |
| Chronic glomerulonephritis, nephritis and nephropathy not specified as acute or chronic, and renal sclerosis unspecified (N02-N03,N05-N07,N26) | 75 | 91 | 90 | 102 | 106 | 21% | -1% | 13% | 4% |
| Renal failure (N17-N19) | 5453 | 5593 | 7349 | 10285 | 9038 | 3% | 31% | 40% | -12% |
| Other disorders of kidney (N25,N27) | 13 | 15 | 16 | 11 | <10 | 15% | 7% | -31% | |
| Infections of kidney (N10-N12,N13.6,N15.1) | 146 | 145 | 182 | 245 | 193 | -1% | 26% | 35% | -21% |
| Hyperplasia of prostate (N40) | <10 | <10 | <10 | <10 | <10 | ||||
| Inflammatory diseases of female pelvic organs (N70-N76) | 32 | 30 | 47 | 56 | 47 | -6% | 57% | 19% | -16% |
| Pregnancy, childbirth and the puerperium (O00-O99) | 1691 | 1772 | 1326 | 1713 | 1277 | 5% | -25% | 29% | -25% |
| Pregnancy with abortive outcome (O00-O07) | 31 | 32 | 43 | 53 | 40 | 3% | 34% | 23% | -25% |
| Other complications of pregnancy, childbirth and the puerperium (O10-O99) | 1669 | 1748 | 1304 | 1675 | 1250 | 5% | -25% | 28% | -25% |
| Certain conditions originating in the perinatal period (P00-P96) | 14075 | 13620 | 12876 | 12734 | 13155 | -3% | -5% | -1% | 3% |
| Congenital malformations, deformations and chromosomal abnormalities (Q00-Q99) | 8441 | 8278 | 8293 | 8614 | 8717 | -2% | 0% | 4% | 1% |
| Symptoms, signs and abnormal clinical and laboratory findings, not elsewhere classified (R00-R99) | 23728 | 23952 | 28319 | 33662 | 31247 | 1% | 18% | 19% | -7% |
| All other diseases (Residual) | 61247 | 64083 | 83897 | 95925 | 88642 | 5% | 31% | 14% | -8% |
| Accidents (unintentional injuries) (V01-X59,Y85-Y86) | 64798 | 66219 | 84848 | 93503 | 90792 | 2% | 28% | 10% | -3% |
| Transport accidents (V01-V99,Y85) | 20950 | 20686 | 24141 | 26163 | 25074 | -1% | 17% | 8% | -4% |
| Motor vehicle accidents (V02-V04,V09.0,V09.2,V12-V14,V19.0-V19.2,V19.4-V19.6,V20-V79,V80.3-V80.5,V81.0-V81.1,V82.0-V82.1,V83-V86,V87.0-V87.8,V88.0-V88.8,V89.0,V89.2) | 19937 | 19588 | 23005 | 25026 | 23818 | -2% | 17% | 9% | -5% |
| Other land transport accidents (V01,V05-V06,V09.1,V09.3-V09.9,V10-V11,V15-V18,V19.3,V19.8-V19.9,V80.0-V80.2,V80.6-V80.9,V81.2-V81.9,V82.2-V82.9,V87.9,V88.9,V89.1,V89.3,V89.9) | 479 | 496 | 486 | 500 | 546 | 4% | -2% | 3% | 9% |
| Water, air and space, and other and unspecified transport accidents and their sequelae (V90-V99,Y85) | 534 | 603 | 652 | 638 | 712 | 13% | 8% | -2% | 12% |
| Nontransport accidents (W00-X59,Y86) | 44708 | 46400 | 61672 | 68379 | 66714 | 4% | 33% | 11% | -2% |
| Falls (W00-W19) | 1117 | 1196 | 1324 | 1467 | 1427 | 7% | 11% | 11% | -3% |
| Accidental discharge of firearms (W32-W34) | 308 | 316 | 391 | 395 | 342 | 3% | 24% | 1% | -13% |
| Accidental drowning and submersion (W65-W74) | 2097 | 2022 | 2410 | 2454 | 2298 | -4% | 19% | 2% | -6% |
| Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames (X00-X09) | 749 | 630 | 702 | 814 | 812 | -16% | 11% | 16% | 0% |
| Accidental poisoning and exposure to noxious substances (X40-X49) | 36761 | 38373 | 53142 | 59226 | 57649 | 4% | 38% | 11% | -3% |
| Other and unspecified nontransport accidents and their sequelae (W20-W31,W35-W64,W75-W99,X10-X39,X50-X59,Y86) | 4895 | 5065 | 5223 | 5676 | 5826 | 3% | 3% | 9% | 3% |
| Intentional self-harm (suicide) (*U03,X60-X84,Y87.0) | 22264 | 22087 | 22767 | 23842 | 23286 | -1% | 3% | 5% | -2% |
| Intentional self-harm (suicide) by discharge of firearms (X72-X74) | 9799 | 9664 | 10666 | 11667 | 11352 | -1% | 10% | 9% | -3% |
| Intentional self-harm (suicide) by other and unspecified means and their sequelae (*U03,X60-X71,X75-X84,Y87.0) | 12666 | 12627 | 12326 | 12402 | 12154 | 0% | -2% | 1% | -2% |
| Assault (homicide) (*U01-*U02,X85-Y09,Y87.1) | 14030 | 14480 | 19427 | 20159 | 18781 | 3% | 34% | 4% | -7% |
| Assault (homicide) by discharge of firearms (*U01.4,X93-X95) | 11216 | 11746 | 16287 | 17257 | 15896 | 5% | 39% | 6% | -8% |
| Assault (homicide) by other and unspecified means and their sequelae (*U01.0-*U01.3,*U01.5-*U01.9,*U02,X85-X92,X96-Y09,Y87.1) | 2904 | 2842 | 3262 | 3031 | 2996 | -2% | 15% | -7% | -1% |
| Legal intervention (Y35,Y89.0) | 447 | 475 | 592 | 525 | 582 | 6% | 25% | -11% | 11% |
| Events of undetermined intent (Y10-Y34,Y87.2,Y89.9) | 2940 | 2967 | 3301 | 3450 | 3039 | 1% | 11% | 5% | -12% |
| Discharge of firearms, undetermined intent (Y22-Y24) | 245 | 232 | 291 | 334 | 287 | -5% | 25% | 15% | -14% |
| Other and unspecified events of undetermined intent and their sequelae (Y10-Y21,Y25-Y34,Y87.2,Y89.9) | 2703 | 2740 | 3015 | 3129 | 2758 | 1% | 10% | 4% | -12% |
| Operations of war and their sequelae (Y36,Y89.1) | <10 | <10 | <10 | <10 | <10 | ||||
| Complications of medical and surgical care (Y40-Y84,Y88) | 2282 | 2995 | 3075 | 3398 | 2490 | 31% | 3% | 11% | -27% |
| Enterocolitis due to Clostridium difficile (A04.7) | 195 | 166 | 160 | 199 | 173 | -15% | -4% | 24% | -13% |
| Other contributing conditions (O08,S,T) | 105475 | 107176 | 131870 | 142483 | 137508 | 2% | 23% | 8% | -3% |
| COVID-19 (U07.1) | 0 | 0 | 10288 | 26456 | 8766 | 157% | -67% | ||
| Data not shown due to 6 month lag to account for delays in death certificate completion for certain causes of death. | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
My guess is that getting back to work in 2022 to pay the no longer blockaded rent was good for Americans’ morals and health.
A half year ago, I posted the CDC’s tabulation of multiple causes of death from 2018-2021. I suggested that looking at the causes of death in 2020 (when covid was a problem but anti-covid vaccines had not been introduced) vs. 2021 (when vaccines became common) could help distinguish between the effects of covid vs. anti-covid vaccines.
This suggestion that you could look at data to test your vaccine conspiracy theories drove vaccine conspiracy theorists insane with rage.
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LOL.
“After deaths of younger Americans shot up 22% in 2020 over 2019 and 12% in 2021, total deaths (all causes) dropped approaching 9% in 2022:”
“Younger americans” Love the arbitrary age 0 – 44 age group. Great obfuscation, bro.
Steve, how many people, aged 0-18, free of comorbidities, died from Kovid? Not with, of. Was it it even 20?
And yes, anyone who noticed the vaccines were harming people is a wild conspiracy theorist!
Steve: The narrative on blacks, racism, trannies, etc is all false, but we should trust these same people who also control the narrative on kovid.
got it!
By asking this question, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel for straws.Replies: @res
How many healthy people did the Pfizer vaccine kill in 2022?
Notice that death rates are returning to normal now that only absolute knuckleheads take Good Ol' Safe And Effective anymore.
(Snipped from the table--2018-22 numbers and year over year % change.)-- Other and unspecified infectious and parasitic diseases and their sequelae
2832 3086 13751 30233 12997 9% 346% 120% -57%\
This is up the biggest % big jumper--up 10,000 (5x) since 2018, But a big, big peak at 30k in 2021. This would be the long Covid effects or potentially vaccine reaction effects.-- Malignant neoplasms (C00-C97)
17719 17693 18195 18542 18674 0% 3% 2% 1%
Cancer is flat.-- Major cardiovascular diseases (I00-I78)
42476 43239 54030 60874 54007 2% 25% 13% -11%
Cardio with up 12k, about 25%. This is the other place you could see covid or vaccine effects, but the huge jump is 2020 which has no vaccine effects.-- Accidents (unintentional injuries) (V01-X59,Y85-Y86)
64798 66219 84848 93503 90792 2% 28% 10% -3%
Accidents are the biggest single "up" factor vis-a-via 2019. Up 26,000, accounting for 50% of the 50k rise in these deaths. And they are not mostly MVAs but what appear to be drug overdoses:
Accidental poisoning and exposure to noxious substances (X40-X49)
36761 38373 53142 59226 57649 4% 38% 11% -3%-- Intentional self-harm (suicide) (*U03,X60-X84,Y87.0)
22264 22087 22767 23842 23286 -1% 3% 5% -2%
Suicide is pretty flat. People aren't just offing themselves.--Assault (homicide) (*U01-*U02,X85-Y09,Y87.1)
14030 14480 19427 20159 18781 3% 34% 4% -7%
Homicide is indeed up hugely--30%, about 5K more deaths. But this is still only about 10% of the extra "young people" deaths.
In summary,
The "Other unspec infectious ..." and "Cardiovascular" each are kicking in an extra 10K or so deaths likely through covid and/or vaccime after effects. The "Unspec" is up smartly in 2020--which can not be from vaccine effects but only covid--but adds another 17k deaths 2021 which is going to be both long covid effects and vaccine effects. But then way, way back down in 2022. Cardio is similar, but doesn't show such a strong 2021 peak. If there are ongoing vaccine effects, they don't seem to be very strong and have to be teased out from the ongoing covid effects. (This is where we really suffer from having a serious trustworthy CDC, getting and analyzing all the data to tease these issues apart.)The biggest single extra-deaths cause seems to drug overdoses. Our nation has been intentionally broken and trashed by vile people, and that--unsurprisingly--leads more and more of the not very well put together people to turn to drugs, leading to more "deaths of despair".Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Dieter Kief
Here’s the data, you figure it out.
Well, you say you love data, and a reasonable request was made by anony standards. So rather than engage in snark, do them a solid.Replies: @Anon
By the way, those figures you cite are a mess. That's a crappy way to present data. What is being tabulated there? Take this for example:
COVID-19 (U07.1) 0 0 10288 26456 8766
Is that 10's of deaths? 100's? 1's? Only about 10,000 people died of COVID in 2020? That can't be right. Is that per month? The chart doesn't give any key as to how to interpret those numbers. Can you give a link? Not that I expect the CDC to present their data in any useful form. Here - here's some data, cause we're all sciency and s**t. You figure it out. Don't expect us to. We're just the CDC with a $ 12 billion budget.
As commenter Mike Tre pointed out, the category "0-44" is kind of useless. Gee, how is a 44 year old man different than an 18 year old in terms of underlying health?
But, taking these numbers as is:
Major cardiovascular diseases 42476 43239 54030 60874 54007
Diseases of heart 36950 37474 46623 52224 46589
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis 5548 5690 7464 10430 9163
Renal failure 5453 5593 7349 10285 9038
Big uptick of deaths due to heart and kidney failure in 2020 and 2021. Of course I'm sure this was all due to COVID, given that COVID appears to be the stone-soup of diseases. COVID was after all a completely unprecedented disease - the first ever in which there was no natural immunity (remember that?).
But whatever these numbers mean, Nnone of them could be due to iatrogenic causes. None of the 2021 deaths could be due to vaccines (you'd have to be a raging insane lunatic to even suggest such a thing!). None of the 2020 and 2021 deaths could be due to the widespread use of Remdesivir. None of these (or other) deaths could be due to aggressive use of ventilation.
I'm sure the uptick in alcohol related illness was due to COVID too (not - you know - the forced solitude and despair of lockdowns).
Does any of this really count though, after America lost more than a million people to Covid-19? A significant number of those people would have died from any of these non-Covid causes if they hadn’t been done in by Covid.
Same goes for drug overdoses and alcoholic liver disease. 1 million lost in the last 10 years. At some point the majority of the people who are going to die from these causes have to die off. There has to be some kind of plateau. There is a genetic factor in addiction and the number of people with those factors have to start dying off at some point. It’s just natural selection.
This why I’d argue that these deaths are not necessarily a bad thing. The United States is definitely getting a genetic purge from all of these deaths. Not to mention that more of these people dying means they are no longer burdening our society with debt.
Steve says it’s a lousy year but I have enjoyed the 2020s far more than any decade in recent memory. I don’t know anyone dying or addicted. But I do know I’d be paying more taxes if they were still alive, and this country would have been poorer as a whole. Medical debt and entitlements are two of the biggest contributors to our national debt. 2020s look very good compared to the grim stupidity and naivety of the 2010s. There was a shift after 2020 and everybody I dislike has been in a state of perpetual confusion and torment ever since. This entertains me and I feel like I’ve contributed to it.
Is it possible that there could be a viral or bacterial cause for why some people seem to hate the 2020s? Could Covid have contributed to this? I often wonder if viruses or bacteria can influence human behavior. Maybe it can also explain why I love the 2020s. Maybe I got the strain of Covid that empowers people, while other people got the one that stupefies them. I feel like I’ve gained an almost supernatural power since 2019. While most other people seem to be getting weaker mentally.
One thing you're not considering is the significant morbidity from these various causes to people who don't die, or take a very long time doing do, a weight on the other side of the ledger.Replies: @Pixo, @Je Suis Omar Mateen
It is pointless to complain about natural selection doing its job. The more we are stuck with annoying liberals who have not yet overdosed from fentanyl yet, the worse off Society is.
Yes, it’s great that Americans can actually go in and see the doctor again and get treatment for chronic problems. For a year or more, it was more important to keep them socially distanced out of the office to flatten the curve and all…
"After deaths of younger Americans shot up 22% in 2020 over 2019 and 12% in 2021, total deaths (all causes) dropped approaching 9% in 2022:"
"Younger americans" Love the arbitrary age 0 - 44 age group. Great obfuscation, bro.
Steve, how many people, aged 0-18, free of comorbidities, died from Kovid? Not with, of. Was it it even 20?
And yes, anyone who noticed the vaccines were harming people is a wild conspiracy theorist!
Steve: The narrative on blacks, racism, trannies, etc is all false, but we should trust these same people who also control the narrative on kovid.
got it!Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon
Almost all people in America ages 0-18 have comorbidities. The proportion of 0-18 year olds has also never been lower in our history, thanks to the comorbid brain-uterus defects that have so many American women skimping out on childbirth.
By asking this question, you’re scraping the bottom of the barrel for straws.
https://www.thelancet.com/cms/attachment/469b9e8a-8cf8-4128-8926-15148dd11f08/gr1.jpg
Same goes for drug overdoses and alcoholic liver disease. 1 million lost in the last 10 years. At some point the majority of the people who are going to die from these causes have to die off. There has to be some kind of plateau. There is a genetic factor in addiction and the number of people with those factors have to start dying off at some point. It's just natural selection.
This why I'd argue that these deaths are not necessarily a bad thing. The United States is definitely getting a genetic purge from all of these deaths. Not to mention that more of these people dying means they are no longer burdening our society with debt.
Steve says it's a lousy year but I have enjoyed the 2020s far more than any decade in recent memory. I don't know anyone dying or addicted. But I do know I'd be paying more taxes if they were still alive, and this country would have been poorer as a whole. Medical debt and entitlements are two of the biggest contributors to our national debt. 2020s look very good compared to the grim stupidity and naivety of the 2010s. There was a shift after 2020 and everybody I dislike has been in a state of perpetual confusion and torment ever since. This entertains me and I feel like I've contributed to it.
Is it possible that there could be a viral or bacterial cause for why some people seem to hate the 2020s? Could Covid have contributed to this? I often wonder if viruses or bacteria can influence human behavior. Maybe it can also explain why I love the 2020s. Maybe I got the strain of Covid that empowers people, while other people got the one that stupefies them. I feel like I've gained an almost supernatural power since 2019. While most other people seem to be getting weaker mentally.Replies: @kaganovitch, @That Would Be Telling, @Known Fact, @puttheforkdown
Apotheosis awaits only the Sidus Anonymum.
Any layman interested in this topic should have a look at the ongoing work done by Dr. John Campbell over at YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Campbellteaching .
He has the most content-rich and drama-free YouTube channels I can think of. There’s an extensive point form summary in the description of each video.
Aww. Steve, read the room will ya! Lol
Finally reducing the number of people who don’t mind overdosing?
"After deaths of younger Americans shot up 22% in 2020 over 2019 and 12% in 2021, total deaths (all causes) dropped approaching 9% in 2022:"
"Younger americans" Love the arbitrary age 0 - 44 age group. Great obfuscation, bro.
Steve, how many people, aged 0-18, free of comorbidities, died from Kovid? Not with, of. Was it it even 20?
And yes, anyone who noticed the vaccines were harming people is a wild conspiracy theorist!
Steve: The narrative on blacks, racism, trannies, etc is all false, but we should trust these same people who also control the narrative on kovid.
got it!Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon
Do you also believe the world is flat? After all, you can’t trust the “media” telling you it’s not.
I’m confused. We’ve supposedly had over 1 million Covid deaths in the U.S.
Steve, your chart shows 10,288 in 2020, 26,456 in 2021 and 8,766 in 2022. That’s 45,510 from Covid. What am I misunderstanding. Where are the 1 million deaths?
It’s probably something obvious I’m missing but what is it?
Or is it all the other co morbidities in this chart that are being credited with killing these people, not Covid, they died with Covid? Is that the correct reasoning?
Looking for clarity.
Just as with a lot of this, starting often with bad data entry, it can be more complicated than you think.
As an example, depending on how acute, or quick-acting, the good or ill effects of the vaccines were/are there is the simple arithmetic effect that blogger El Gato Malo (“the bad cat”) discussed in his year-and-a-half-ago substack post Bayesian Datacrime: Defining vaccine efficacy into existence [My caps, because the bad cat doesn’t seem to like them.]
The policy of a 2-week delay after vaccination before one is considered “vaccinated” had an effect in raising the efficacy numbers and increasing the Covid death numbers. I have no idea if this ended up being a big factor in the accuracy of reported results, but it’s just an example to show there’s a lot of hanky-panky. Garbage-in, garbage-out applies.
I don’t get paid to do this, and I don’t care enough as of this point. What I cared about it was the attempt to make the shots mandatory. That ran into strong resistance, and WE WON. It’s over.
Covid was just the beginning, I'm afraid. Who's to stop the usual suspects from pulling another psy-op?Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
“Here’s the data, you figure it out.”
Well, you say you love data, and a reasonable request was made by anony standards. So rather than engage in snark, do them a solid.
It's better to respond in kind and point out that they're fat and have 70 IQs.
I scanned the entire list- probably 80% of those excess deaths can be blamed not on COVID but on the over-reaction to COVID (specifically, the lockdowns and the sequestration of medical services), including vaccinating people under the age of 44.
Same goes for drug overdoses and alcoholic liver disease. 1 million lost in the last 10 years. At some point the majority of the people who are going to die from these causes have to die off. There has to be some kind of plateau. There is a genetic factor in addiction and the number of people with those factors have to start dying off at some point. It's just natural selection.
This why I'd argue that these deaths are not necessarily a bad thing. The United States is definitely getting a genetic purge from all of these deaths. Not to mention that more of these people dying means they are no longer burdening our society with debt.
Steve says it's a lousy year but I have enjoyed the 2020s far more than any decade in recent memory. I don't know anyone dying or addicted. But I do know I'd be paying more taxes if they were still alive, and this country would have been poorer as a whole. Medical debt and entitlements are two of the biggest contributors to our national debt. 2020s look very good compared to the grim stupidity and naivety of the 2010s. There was a shift after 2020 and everybody I dislike has been in a state of perpetual confusion and torment ever since. This entertains me and I feel like I've contributed to it.
Is it possible that there could be a viral or bacterial cause for why some people seem to hate the 2020s? Could Covid have contributed to this? I often wonder if viruses or bacteria can influence human behavior. Maybe it can also explain why I love the 2020s. Maybe I got the strain of Covid that empowers people, while other people got the one that stupefies them. I feel like I've gained an almost supernatural power since 2019. While most other people seem to be getting weaker mentally.Replies: @kaganovitch, @That Would Be Telling, @Known Fact, @puttheforkdown
You only get that to the extent the various causes you cite or are aligned with your criteria take out people who’d otherwise have children. Given how very heavily age weighted immediate COVID deaths were, which we might posit is also true for its significant delayed mortality, there’s not going to be much of an effect unless there are a lot more 40+ aged fathers and mothers out there than I and a quick Brave search found (there’s lots on the other hand in the 30-34 age range which is older than “normal”).
One thing you’re not considering is the significant morbidity from these various causes to people who don’t die, or take a very long time doing do, a weight on the other side of the ledger.
Depends on the person. When you recover from an acute viral infection your subsequent risk of cancer and autoimmune disease decreases.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0361090X06000043Replies: @That Would Be Telling
We’re stabilizing at a new low?
based on no specific data, I conclude that all of the “blame the vaccine” charges are nonsense. It is the spike protein that harms people. Actual covid viral infections exposed Americans to 99.999% of the spike protein they encountered, with the remainder coming from the mRNA vaccine. Looking for a cause of the excess illness and deaths the last few year, blame the virus.
Keep in mind the next human created viral pandemic will be more deadly and contagious than Covid. The West cannot hesitate to design and distribute a vaccine to protect people.
I have looked at many different sources that tried to number the reach of the vaccine harm compared to the Wuhan virus harm. General conclusions are arguable, but my best guess is:
Point one – (this is my guess from giving more or less weight to apparently more or less reliable sources – the original sources greatly vary!) —- Significant vaccine adverse effects were probably one in 400 to one in 800 – and it logically follows that, in people with pre-existing conditions that we do not know about, significant adverse effects were more than one in 400-800 (and hence for the ‘healthy person with no complicating factors’ – the person the vaccine makers envisioned the vaccine for – such effects were less than one in 400-800 -)…
Point two – It is by definition an impossible task to define the unknowable, and thus to specify how many people who suffered from adverse effects had unknown vulnerabilities before the shot. It does seem, though, that a majority of people with adverse effects were at a vulnerable (either to a specific mechanism in the shot, or vulnerable in general to ‘shocks to the system’) point in their life (hence the higher adverse effects for women in later stages of pregnancy versus early stages, & the higher adverse effects for early-career athletes, whose hearts were new to athlete-level stress, than for late-career athletes, whose hearts were more ‘weathered’)).
Point three – The vaccine effects in the very elderly (who after all were the vast majority of direct victims of the Wuhan flu, and arguably the people the vaccine should have been designed for ) are very hard or impossible to disentangle because lots of elderly simply do not have the will to fight effectively against pneumonia symptoms from any source, and because a normal flu season wipes away so many elderly people every year that even a major addition to mortality (such as vaccine harm) would not have much signal value. In fact, many of the very elderly welcome the flu, which I have heard called “the old man’s friend.” (It is not an easy way to die, but it is, from the point of view of the very elderly, not something to be feared the way, in general, younger people fear a bad bout of the flu….).
Point four. While it is difficult to put good parameters on vaccine harm, it is fairly easy to ascertain, from reading public statements of 2020-2021, that many ‘public health’ or ‘public health adjacent’ scientists are not good scientists (or are good scientists who are paid to publicly say things a good scientist would not say). Many of the public experts, some with M.D.s from prestigious institutions, turned out to be verbally facile and statistically (and probably morally) incompetent.
Yeah, “covid”
Well, you say you love data, and a reasonable request was made by anony standards. So rather than engage in snark, do them a solid.Replies: @Anon
Anti-vaxxers don’t care about data, they rely almost entirely on insulting their opponents.
It’s better to respond in kind and point out that they’re fat and have 70 IQs.
Same goes for drug overdoses and alcoholic liver disease. 1 million lost in the last 10 years. At some point the majority of the people who are going to die from these causes have to die off. There has to be some kind of plateau. There is a genetic factor in addiction and the number of people with those factors have to start dying off at some point. It's just natural selection.
This why I'd argue that these deaths are not necessarily a bad thing. The United States is definitely getting a genetic purge from all of these deaths. Not to mention that more of these people dying means they are no longer burdening our society with debt.
Steve says it's a lousy year but I have enjoyed the 2020s far more than any decade in recent memory. I don't know anyone dying or addicted. But I do know I'd be paying more taxes if they were still alive, and this country would have been poorer as a whole. Medical debt and entitlements are two of the biggest contributors to our national debt. 2020s look very good compared to the grim stupidity and naivety of the 2010s. There was a shift after 2020 and everybody I dislike has been in a state of perpetual confusion and torment ever since. This entertains me and I feel like I've contributed to it.
Is it possible that there could be a viral or bacterial cause for why some people seem to hate the 2020s? Could Covid have contributed to this? I often wonder if viruses or bacteria can influence human behavior. Maybe it can also explain why I love the 2020s. Maybe I got the strain of Covid that empowers people, while other people got the one that stupefies them. I feel like I've gained an almost supernatural power since 2019. While most other people seem to be getting weaker mentally.Replies: @kaganovitch, @That Would Be Telling, @Known Fact, @puttheforkdown
Unfortunately we’re also getting a genetic binge thanks to the border invasion. How’s that going to work out for the ol’ salus populi? (Not to mention the deranged Hispanic guy tootling around Queens Saturday shooting random people from his scooter)
Going back to work may be healthy and inspiring, but the labor particiption rate at less than 63 percent is still below pre-covid levels and sharply down from its peak early this century, around 67 percent.
Whatever the charts may say, this country does not look healthy to me. It’s like the White House Physician reporting that Joe Biden is fit and alert
I was disappointed to see that mortality chart did not break out Fall Down Laundry Chute as a separate category, but did notice Events of Undetermined Intent. I like that, it raises all kinds of Florida Man scenarios
I did an analysis based on excess deaths in OECD countries summed from 2020-2022. Excess deaths continued even after they could no longer be accounted for by COVID -well into fall of 2022. The results show that excess deaths go down pretty dramatically from countries with below 50% of the population vaccinated until maybe 75-80%. After that one could argue either, there is no benefit to vaccinating more than that, or even that the excess deaths start to go back up as you get closer to 90%.
A similar analysis using vaccination rates of individual US states showed similar results but with less evidence of the arguable increase as you go from about 80% to 90%
Unfortunately there are not a lot of data points (only so many OECD countries and US states) but to me it looks like there was great benefit to vaccinating the vulnerable population and no benefit, or possibly harm vaccinating everyone else.
Incidentally, as of the time of the analysis, Sweden was second best in terms of excess deaths in the OECD.
I never got the clot shot, not due to some fundamental hostility to vaxxes, but due to the government giving such contradictory "information," and the msm spreading purely fictional stories (e.g., "racism is a co-morbidity") about the wuhan china virus, that I could not make a rational decision.
A couple of years ago, I noticed that the government had engaged in the obviously fakestat operation of "disappearing" the flu, which someone re-posted here a few days ago. People didn't suddenly stop catching the flu. From that, I concluded that hundreds of thousands of cases written up in the U.S. as covid were actually the flu.
Meanwhile, The Boss, who is a veteran nursing home nurse, has told me all about her place of work lying about rampant cases of the china flu since 2020.
Oh, and for years The Boss told me that if I caught the kung flu, I'd drop like a fly, due to my age and many underlying conditions. Well, she was pleasantly surprised when I caught it over Thanksgiving 2022 weekend from our grown son, but survived, after spending 14 hours a day in the sack for a few.
Granted, my individual case means little, and I did lose others to china, but if I can't get my hands on any clean data.
Meanwhile, the stories by "experts," "reporters," "scholars," etc. have been so phony, with them using "covid" to explain everything from the explosion in black crime that the dnc/msm had instigated ("the reckoning") to continued low TV ratings for sporting events (why would Whites in lockdown watch LESS, rather than MORE sports?; in reality, millions of Whites had stopped watching black athletes years ago, due to the league suits' support of blm) I concluded, as with so many other issues today, that we are stuck in a totalitarian twilight zone.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Erik L
“It’s over.”
Covid was just the beginning, I’m afraid. Who’s to stop the usual suspects from pulling another psy-op?
Decades rated from 1-10 in my lifetime
1960’s: Too young to rate, vaguely remember the years 68-69. Remember NY Jets, Mets, Knicks beat Baltimore Colts, Orioles, Bullets in post season. Charles Manson, Moon Landing, that’s about it.
1970’s: 8. The Me Decade was great. A 10+ compared to the 2000’s, A 12+ compared to 2020’s. Great music, America was still overwhelmingly White. Movies were still watchable. Cartoons were not weird. Fitness craze starts thinks to Jim Fixx, the movies, “Pumping Iron” and “Rocky.” Boxing title fights shown on network television. Television did not have commercials every 5 minutes. Three Triple Crown winners in horse racing in one decade.
1980’s: 9. Truly the best decade in the last half century. The last decade of Traditional White America. Best decade for music. Simpler times, but people were much more pleasant, definitely smarter, less hateful, etc.
1990s: 7. The beginning of the end for Traditional White America. Once thriving cities were rapidly declining at warp speed. Last decade that produced anything worth listening to in music. Mexicans and others showing up in places other than Texas, California, etc.
2000’s: 5. The Beaner Invasion is amped up after Ruby a takes office. Movies/music/television is sub par for the most part. 911.
2010’s: 3.5. Shit on all levels.
2020’s: Stolen election. Corrupt FBI. Corrupt DOJ. Homelessness everywhere. Rating 1.
C’mon, Steve – we have to get past the Covid Civil War and get ready for the bright opportunities of the future. What are they going to roll out to ensure lockdowns for the 2024 elections? In the unifying spirit of Fightin’ Joe Wheeler at Las Guasimas in 1898 (“Let’s go boys – we got the damn Yankees on the run again!”), I’ll throw out a few contenders to start the discussion.
-Turbocharged Malaria may hit the shelves pretty soon.
https://phys.org/news/2023-07-genetic-technology-halt-malaria-spreading-mosquitoes.html
-Bat viruses remain a popular product
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/may/9/ecohealth-alliance-gets-back-work-bat-coronaviruse/
-Maybe they will dispense with biology and just go with wartime emergency powers and cancel elections entirely (somewhat of an innovation in America, but a proven winner historically)
https://www.aei.org/op-eds/can-biden-deter-a-russia-nuclear-attack-on-ukraine-yes-if-he-gives-ukraine-tactical-nukes/
-There’s only a slim chance that this will destroy all life on earth, but if it takes out Greta Thunberg, it will have been worth it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12254167/More-gloomy-news-Biden-backs-plan-BLOCK-sunlight-Earth-bid-limit-global-warming.html
Real question: Is there any 22-year period in the 20th century in which boring old whitebread America accomplished less than vibrant, diverse America 21st century America has so far?
For example, 1930-1952 might have been the most unpleasant 22 years in the 20th century — including the Great Depression and the carnage of WWII and then Korea — but America certainly achieved an enormous amount over this period.
False conclusion.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
The Covid of 2022 was not really the same as the Covid of 2020 and 2021. A milder and more transmissible variant became dominant. This type of thing tends to happen with this type of virus. A virus that becomes less transmissible and immediately kills its host soon dies out, so these viruses usually evolve in the opposite direction. People don’t die in large numbers from Covid now for the same reason they don’t die in large numbers from the 1918 Spanish flu, 1957 Asian flu or 1967 Hong Kong flu now.
People know the disease is not really the same disease, which is why demand for the vaccines has cratered and many governments find themselves sitting on large stockpiles of vaccines that they will need to throw away. These same governments are now trying to squirm out of contracts with big pharma to buy even more of them.
Things are never going to return to normal after this. We locked down the country and printed up and passed out trillions of dollars to try to offset the negative economic effects for a disease where the average age of death was 78 and which 99.7% of those under sixty survived. It caused high inflation, which we will ultimately fail to get under control, and a contracting economy. Incomes adjusted for inflation have dropped 26 months in a row. A collection of parasitic special interests has fastened itself on the country and is slowly sucking it dry. One of these parasitic special interests is the big pharma/medical cartel/government health regulatory agency combo which brought us economically damaging lockdowns, killed large numbers of people in hospitals with ventilators and Remdesivir, forced young people to get vaccinations that may have done more harm than good, and threatened to take the licenses of doctors who were trying to develop and implement early home treatment programs that would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
So in other words, a smashing success. Everything went according to (((scheme))) I mean plan.
Meanwhile of course, the first of the planned Million Monkey Marches proceeds apace without a hitch, anyone who objects is a "domestic terrorist" and "white supremacist", various legal and government precedents are being set every day which will bring us that much closer to our cherished "Gulags for Goyim" and "Hard Assets for Soft Pennies" policies. SlavSlaughter 9000: the Enstupiding is still running smoothly, soon there will be plenty of ruined empty Ukraine ready for Israel 2.0, plus stuffed to the gills with widowed shiksas ripe for trafficking.
It's great to be MOT.
That's what I came down with the first two weeks of January 2023. I was and continue to be untainted by the mRNA gene therapy drug. My immune system dealt with it and came out stronger. Not sure about the "mild" bit though: Like a truck hit me. Throughout the illness I contacted no medical authorities and remained smugly self-satisfied that I didn't fall for the poison pushed by the technocracy.
OT: an imaginary sex-abuse ring at McMaster University, Canada. What happens when two PhD students in psychology have psychotic illness themselves and make delusional claims?
The story is long, and it has a sting in the tail. Among the villains are a black lesbian DEI-promoting married couple who have done similar jobs at one Canadian university after another. Despite creating chaos at McMaster and costing the university millions of dollars in legal fees and settlements, they have moved on to similar roles at the University of British Columbia.
https://quillette.com/2023/06/14/mcmasters-imaginary-sex-ring/
People know the disease is not really the same disease, which is why demand for the vaccines has cratered and many governments find themselves sitting on large stockpiles of vaccines that they will need to throw away. These same governments are now trying to squirm out of contracts with big pharma to buy even more of them.
Things are never going to return to normal after this. We locked down the country and printed up and passed out trillions of dollars to try to offset the negative economic effects for a disease where the average age of death was 78 and which 99.7% of those under sixty survived. It caused high inflation, which we will ultimately fail to get under control, and a contracting economy. Incomes adjusted for inflation have dropped 26 months in a row. A collection of parasitic special interests has fastened itself on the country and is slowly sucking it dry. One of these parasitic special interests is the big pharma/medical cartel/government health regulatory agency combo which brought us economically damaging lockdowns, killed large numbers of people in hospitals with ventilators and Remdesivir, forced young people to get vaccinations that may have done more harm than good, and threatened to take the licenses of doctors who were trying to develop and implement early home treatment programs that would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.Replies: @Cagey Beast, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Corpse Tooth, @Dmon, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad
“…. forced young people to get vaccinations that may have done more harm than good ….”
If these Covid vaccines do turn out to have done more harm than good, how confident can we be that the evidence would be accepted and become common knowledge? I don’t think most people or institutions could handle that. They’d do almost everything in their power to deny it.
People know the disease is not really the same disease, which is why demand for the vaccines has cratered and many governments find themselves sitting on large stockpiles of vaccines that they will need to throw away. These same governments are now trying to squirm out of contracts with big pharma to buy even more of them.
Things are never going to return to normal after this. We locked down the country and printed up and passed out trillions of dollars to try to offset the negative economic effects for a disease where the average age of death was 78 and which 99.7% of those under sixty survived. It caused high inflation, which we will ultimately fail to get under control, and a contracting economy. Incomes adjusted for inflation have dropped 26 months in a row. A collection of parasitic special interests has fastened itself on the country and is slowly sucking it dry. One of these parasitic special interests is the big pharma/medical cartel/government health regulatory agency combo which brought us economically damaging lockdowns, killed large numbers of people in hospitals with ventilators and Remdesivir, forced young people to get vaccinations that may have done more harm than good, and threatened to take the licenses of doctors who were trying to develop and implement early home treatment programs that would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.Replies: @Cagey Beast, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Corpse Tooth, @Dmon, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad
“It caused high inflation, which we will ultimately fail to get under control, and a contracting economy. Incomes adjusted for inflation have dropped 26 months in a row. A collection of parasitic special interests has fastened itself on the country and is slowly sucking it dry.”
So in other words, a smashing success. Everything went according to (((scheme))) I mean plan.
Meanwhile of course, the first of the planned Million Monkey Marches proceeds apace without a hitch, anyone who objects is a “domestic terrorist” and “white supremacist”, various legal and government precedents are being set every day which will bring us that much closer to our cherished “Gulags for Goyim” and “Hard Assets for Soft Pennies” policies. SlavSlaughter 9000: the Enstupiding is still running smoothly, soon there will be plenty of ruined empty Ukraine ready for Israel 2.0, plus stuffed to the gills with widowed shiksas ripe for trafficking.
It’s great to be MOT.
I appreciate the good news. But it’s like gas shooting up from $1.50 to $5.00 a gallon nearly overnight, then being happy to see it coming down to $4.50 a gallon. Nice, but would be nicer to get back to the cheap gas. But I suspect both are merely brief pauses of the anti-White/anti-middle class ratchet.
Well, pulmonary embolism (ICD code I-26) lumped with some other codes in your chart has certainly skyrocketed over the years shown. It is caused by blood clots and often results in sudden death. So great job, in presenting evidence in support of the “clot shot” conspiracy theory. Of course there might be some perfectly non-conspiracy explanations for the huge jump but they don’t show up in a quick Google Scholar search.
Whereas we know blood clots of all types/sizes are a distinguishing characteristic of COVID, I remember a time doctors were saying it was more a vascular than respiratory system disease, at least when it was bad. Something we learned early when for example those New Orleans pathologists suited up and did some autopsies and had a preprint ready by April 10th, 2020.
I have to admit I'm uncertain how much of this "rage" stems from insanity, for example not perceiving the real world, and arrant stupidity. For example a conviction that Proof by Repeated Assertion is a legitimate debating vs. bullying tactic; after all, the tribe's shibboleths must be enforced.
27666 27950 34836 39681 34738 1% 25% 14% -12%As is obvious the big bump up starts in ... 2020--i.e. nothing to do with the vax. And note the 2020 bump of 7000 for a virus that only starts hitting any significant number of people in April. And young people do not get vaxxed until mid-way through 2021 ... yet the 2022 deaths are down.
So the "perfectly non-conspiracy explanation" is obviously ... covid.That's the problem with "clot shoters". You don't seem to want to admit, that whatever the vaccines is doing, covid seems to be doing (not one shot's worth, but billions upon billions of cell hijackings and replications) and --without additional data to suggest otherwise--covid does it a lot worse.If you guys want to make the case, find something that does not skyrocket in 2020, but skyrockets in 2021. Or something that is only moderate in 2020 and early 2021, then noticeably skyrockets in late 2021 after people have had the "clot shot".Show me the data and I'm on board. I go where the data goes.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Mr. Anon, @guizot, @Almost Missouri
People know the disease is not really the same disease, which is why demand for the vaccines has cratered and many governments find themselves sitting on large stockpiles of vaccines that they will need to throw away. These same governments are now trying to squirm out of contracts with big pharma to buy even more of them.
Things are never going to return to normal after this. We locked down the country and printed up and passed out trillions of dollars to try to offset the negative economic effects for a disease where the average age of death was 78 and which 99.7% of those under sixty survived. It caused high inflation, which we will ultimately fail to get under control, and a contracting economy. Incomes adjusted for inflation have dropped 26 months in a row. A collection of parasitic special interests has fastened itself on the country and is slowly sucking it dry. One of these parasitic special interests is the big pharma/medical cartel/government health regulatory agency combo which brought us economically damaging lockdowns, killed large numbers of people in hospitals with ventilators and Remdesivir, forced young people to get vaccinations that may have done more harm than good, and threatened to take the licenses of doctors who were trying to develop and implement early home treatment programs that would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.Replies: @Cagey Beast, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Corpse Tooth, @Dmon, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad
“A milder and more transmissible variant became dominant.”
That’s what I came down with the first two weeks of January 2023. I was and continue to be untainted by the mRNA gene therapy drug. My immune system dealt with it and came out stronger. Not sure about the “mild” bit though: Like a truck hit me. Throughout the illness I contacted no medical authorities and remained smugly self-satisfied that I didn’t fall for the poison pushed by the technocracy.
For some time now I’ve been regularly checking the online obituaries in my original hometown’s newspaper, and over time I’ve been noticing something odd: people dying in nursing homes when they’re seemingly too young to be in nursing homes. I’m talking mainly the 60 to 75 age range. Keep in mind this is in Connecticut, which to control Medicaid costs has had a moratorium on nursing home construction for decades. As a result nursing homes are at 100% capacity and no one ends up in one unless they really need to be there.
While there could be other reasons, what I think is that early dementia is a major issue.
People know the disease is not really the same disease, which is why demand for the vaccines has cratered and many governments find themselves sitting on large stockpiles of vaccines that they will need to throw away. These same governments are now trying to squirm out of contracts with big pharma to buy even more of them.
Things are never going to return to normal after this. We locked down the country and printed up and passed out trillions of dollars to try to offset the negative economic effects for a disease where the average age of death was 78 and which 99.7% of those under sixty survived. It caused high inflation, which we will ultimately fail to get under control, and a contracting economy. Incomes adjusted for inflation have dropped 26 months in a row. A collection of parasitic special interests has fastened itself on the country and is slowly sucking it dry. One of these parasitic special interests is the big pharma/medical cartel/government health regulatory agency combo which brought us economically damaging lockdowns, killed large numbers of people in hospitals with ventilators and Remdesivir, forced young people to get vaccinations that may have done more harm than good, and threatened to take the licenses of doctors who were trying to develop and implement early home treatment programs that would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.Replies: @Cagey Beast, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Corpse Tooth, @Dmon, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad
Agree completely. And don’t forget elimination of any safeguards to election fraud, establishment of open government censorship of media with the widespread enthusiastic cooperation of said media, and justification of the use of government emergency powers for any purpose desired by the executive (“Racism is a Public Health Crisis”). Not to mention the transformation of the “Intelligence” community into some weird hybrid of pre and post 1933 Germany, as if Hitler had combined the SS and the SA, giving the regime the ability to enforce it’s will with either covert police state action or violent street thuggery, as the situation demanded.
One thing you're not considering is the significant morbidity from these various causes to people who don't die, or take a very long time doing do, a weight on the other side of the ledger.Replies: @Pixo, @Je Suis Omar Mateen
“ One thing you’re not considering is the significant morbidity from these various causes to people who don’t die”
Depends on the person. When you recover from an acute viral infection your subsequent risk of cancer and autoimmune disease decreases.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0361090X06000043
On the other hand it sounds like the data this is based on is not isolating the previous endemic coronaviruses, and was published before MERS was first detected in 2012 so the SARS one off wouldn't necessarily prompted focus on this class of viruses. It would be annoying to find out the unnatural SARS-CoV-2 virus is a cancer promoter; I keep noting the PRC's awful handling of diseases puts them at risk of getting glassed by nukes someday....
As for the point made by the Anon, while I didn't repeat his set of posited eugenic death categories I doubt any of this is relevant to addiction.
Take ethanol which a lot or most?? humans have been getting used to for thousands of years. Still a terrible problem, and narcotics ... OK, looks like opioids are not just thousands of years old drugs but were fairly widespread in ancient times. Also a terrible problem ... both of these drug classes produce tolerance fairly quickly. There's many other classes I gather had less geographic range before we can blame globalization and loose White House security for causing problems.
Might also note WRT to the concern of vaccines cushioning us in bubble warp that there's still zillions of viruses we routinely get and whole sets are impractical to vaccinate against like "the common cold." Or very iffy like the flu, be it virus or vaccine the human body doesn't target conserved parts of types A and B. And as always remember something will kill you someday, thus "[X] cancers are rising in incidence" can mean we're not dying so much from other things.
People know the disease is not really the same disease, which is why demand for the vaccines has cratered and many governments find themselves sitting on large stockpiles of vaccines that they will need to throw away. These same governments are now trying to squirm out of contracts with big pharma to buy even more of them.
Things are never going to return to normal after this. We locked down the country and printed up and passed out trillions of dollars to try to offset the negative economic effects for a disease where the average age of death was 78 and which 99.7% of those under sixty survived. It caused high inflation, which we will ultimately fail to get under control, and a contracting economy. Incomes adjusted for inflation have dropped 26 months in a row. A collection of parasitic special interests has fastened itself on the country and is slowly sucking it dry. One of these parasitic special interests is the big pharma/medical cartel/government health regulatory agency combo which brought us economically damaging lockdowns, killed large numbers of people in hospitals with ventilators and Remdesivir, forced young people to get vaccinations that may have done more harm than good, and threatened to take the licenses of doctors who were trying to develop and implement early home treatment programs that would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.Replies: @Cagey Beast, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Corpse Tooth, @Dmon, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad
…or Ebola, ever.
Anyone who died within three months of getting they some Good Ol’ Safe And Effective died of Good Ol’ Safe And Effective. So that’s hundreds of thousands in the US alone, millions worldwide.
Notice that death rates are returning to normal now that only absolute knuckleheads take Good Ol’ Safe And Effective anymore.
The data above cannot possibly answer the question. The best answer is: any knucklehead dying within three months of their first, second, third, fourth, and/or fifth poison prick died of Good Ol’ Safe And Effective. I’m not sure ANY data anywhere can answer this question, you’d have to go through each individual knucklehead’s chart to see if they’d been poisoned in the previous three months. I’m not certain that individual charts even CONTAIN the exact date of poison administration. And this inability to know is a feature, not a bug of the warp speed vaxxxxination regime.
One thing you're not considering is the significant morbidity from these various causes to people who don't die, or take a very long time doing do, a weight on the other side of the ledger.Replies: @Pixo, @Je Suis Omar Mateen
• Pfizer Shill: Je Suis Omar Mateen
I think reestablishing the pressures of modern civilization, after so long a break, may have made mental health matters worse for some. Couple that with lackadaisical police enforcement and it’s a recipe for social disaster.
Right, Steve, because we all know that doctors were postively encouraged to report any and all possible vaccine injuries. Why it was dangerous to their careers if they did not. I think Anthony Fauci even said that. Or rather, he will have said that, once he gets round to lying about that too.
By the way, those figures you cite are a mess. That’s a crappy way to present data. What is being tabulated there? Take this for example:
COVID-19 (U07.1) 0 0 10288 26456 8766
Is that 10’s of deaths? 100’s? 1’s? Only about 10,000 people died of COVID in 2020? That can’t be right. Is that per month? The chart doesn’t give any key as to how to interpret those numbers. Can you give a link? Not that I expect the CDC to present their data in any useful form. Here – here’s some data, cause we’re all sciency and s**t. You figure it out. Don’t expect us to. We’re just the CDC with a $ 12 billion budget.
As commenter Mike Tre pointed out, the category “0-44” is kind of useless. Gee, how is a 44 year old man different than an 18 year old in terms of underlying health?
But, taking these numbers as is:
Major cardiovascular diseases 42476 43239 54030 60874 54007
Diseases of heart 36950 37474 46623 52224 46589
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis 5548 5690 7464 10430 9163
Renal failure 5453 5593 7349 10285 9038
Big uptick of deaths due to heart and kidney failure in 2020 and 2021. Of course I’m sure this was all due to COVID, given that COVID appears to be the stone-soup of diseases. COVID was after all a completely unprecedented disease – the first ever in which there was no natural immunity (remember that?).
But whatever these numbers mean, Nnone of them could be due to iatrogenic causes. None of the 2021 deaths could be due to vaccines (you’d have to be a raging insane lunatic to even suggest such a thing!). None of the 2020 and 2021 deaths could be due to the widespread use of Remdesivir. None of these (or other) deaths could be due to aggressive use of ventilation.
I’m sure the uptick in alcohol related illness was due to COVID too (not – you know – the forced solitude and despair of lockdowns).
People know the disease is not really the same disease, which is why demand for the vaccines has cratered and many governments find themselves sitting on large stockpiles of vaccines that they will need to throw away. These same governments are now trying to squirm out of contracts with big pharma to buy even more of them.
Things are never going to return to normal after this. We locked down the country and printed up and passed out trillions of dollars to try to offset the negative economic effects for a disease where the average age of death was 78 and which 99.7% of those under sixty survived. It caused high inflation, which we will ultimately fail to get under control, and a contracting economy. Incomes adjusted for inflation have dropped 26 months in a row. A collection of parasitic special interests has fastened itself on the country and is slowly sucking it dry. One of these parasitic special interests is the big pharma/medical cartel/government health regulatory agency combo which brought us economically damaging lockdowns, killed large numbers of people in hospitals with ventilators and Remdesivir, forced young people to get vaccinations that may have done more harm than good, and threatened to take the licenses of doctors who were trying to develop and implement early home treatment programs that would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.Replies: @Cagey Beast, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Corpse Tooth, @Dmon, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad
You summarized the situation well. One thing you missed though – the Summer of George – that three-month long nation-wide temper-tantrum that helped usher in the woke-regime. That also wreaked untold havoc on this country (there were even riots in other countries). I think that the SoG was directly enabled by the COVID lock-down regime – all those young people with nothing to do and nowhere to be in the morning and neading an outlet for their passions.
Same goes for drug overdoses and alcoholic liver disease. 1 million lost in the last 10 years. At some point the majority of the people who are going to die from these causes have to die off. There has to be some kind of plateau. There is a genetic factor in addiction and the number of people with those factors have to start dying off at some point. It's just natural selection.
This why I'd argue that these deaths are not necessarily a bad thing. The United States is definitely getting a genetic purge from all of these deaths. Not to mention that more of these people dying means they are no longer burdening our society with debt.
Steve says it's a lousy year but I have enjoyed the 2020s far more than any decade in recent memory. I don't know anyone dying or addicted. But I do know I'd be paying more taxes if they were still alive, and this country would have been poorer as a whole. Medical debt and entitlements are two of the biggest contributors to our national debt. 2020s look very good compared to the grim stupidity and naivety of the 2010s. There was a shift after 2020 and everybody I dislike has been in a state of perpetual confusion and torment ever since. This entertains me and I feel like I've contributed to it.
Is it possible that there could be a viral or bacterial cause for why some people seem to hate the 2020s? Could Covid have contributed to this? I often wonder if viruses or bacteria can influence human behavior. Maybe it can also explain why I love the 2020s. Maybe I got the strain of Covid that empowers people, while other people got the one that stupefies them. I feel like I've gained an almost supernatural power since 2019. While most other people seem to be getting weaker mentally.Replies: @kaganovitch, @That Would Be Telling, @Known Fact, @puttheforkdown
I’ll certainly be looking forward to your death. Let me know when it’s coming up so I can break out some celebratory measures!
Sounds like high drama in the Lowe’s garden section!
https://plantinstructions.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/potted-mums.jpgReplies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
Depends on the person. When you recover from an acute viral infection your subsequent risk of cancer and autoimmune disease decreases.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0361090X06000043Replies: @That Would Be Telling
Cool, and makes sense, although “acute enough” to cause a fever provides better protection. Which also makes sense.
On the other hand it sounds like the data this is based on is not isolating the previous endemic coronaviruses, and was published before MERS was first detected in 2012 so the SARS one off wouldn’t necessarily prompted focus on this class of viruses. It would be annoying to find out the unnatural SARS-CoV-2 virus is a cancer promoter; I keep noting the PRC’s awful handling of diseases puts them at risk of getting glassed by nukes someday….
As for the point made by the Anon, while I didn’t repeat his set of posited eugenic death categories I doubt any of this is relevant to addiction.
Take ethanol which a lot or most?? humans have been getting used to for thousands of years. Still a terrible problem, and narcotics … OK, looks like opioids are not just thousands of years old drugs but were fairly widespread in ancient times. Also a terrible problem … both of these drug classes produce tolerance fairly quickly. There’s many other classes I gather had less geographic range before we can blame globalization and loose White House security for causing problems.
Might also note WRT to the concern of vaccines cushioning us in bubble warp that there’s still zillions of viruses we routinely get and whole sets are impractical to vaccinate against like “the common cold.” Or very iffy like the flu, be it virus or vaccine the human body doesn’t target conserved parts of types A and B. And as always remember something will kill you someday, thus “[X] cancers are rising in incidence” can mean we’re not dying so much from other things.
Shouldn’t it read “civilization” (in quotes)?
Not sure about your backwater, but my Lowes knows the proper capitalization is Sidus anonymum.
Also, it’s Lowe’s. You need a copy editor. 🧐Replies: @Pixo
https://plantinstructions.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/potted-mums.jpgReplies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
I blockquoted kaganovitch, who is in New Jersey.
Also, it’s Lowe’s. You need a copy editor. 🧐
Why haven’t you followed me on Twitter? I might let some other detail slip.
I’ll know it’s you when I get my first anime-loli profile pic with vaporwave Hitler video retweets.
https://twitter.com/LorlordylorReplies: @Pixo, @Jenner Ickham Errican
Much like how they tried to count traffic accidents deaths as deaths from Covid, you can’t do that. A lot of people taking the vaccine were already unhealthy. It may have pushed them over the edge and may have been unrelated.
Not never many.
I find the table annoyingly hard to read, because there are these big summary columns–cancer, heart disease, other stuff, accidents, etc.–which you have to identify; then there are sub-section summaries which which sum various rows, but skip others (annoying); and then the individual items.
People can correct me, but here’s the big picture–making it happen stuff–that I can see:
(Snipped from the table–2018-22 numbers and year over year % change.)
— Other and unspecified infectious and parasitic diseases and their sequelae
2832 3086 13751 30233 12997 9% 346% 120% -57%\
This is up the biggest % big jumper–up 10,000 (5x) since 2018, But a big, big peak at 30k in 2021. This would be the long Covid effects or potentially vaccine reaction effects.
— Malignant neoplasms (C00-C97)
17719 17693 18195 18542 18674 0% 3% 2% 1%
Cancer is flat.
— Major cardiovascular diseases (I00-I78)
42476 43239 54030 60874 54007 2% 25% 13% -11%
Cardio with up 12k, about 25%. This is the other place you could see covid or vaccine effects, but the huge jump is 2020 which has no vaccine effects.
— Accidents (unintentional injuries) (V01-X59,Y85-Y86)
64798 66219 84848 93503 90792 2% 28% 10% -3%
Accidents are the biggest single “up” factor vis-a-via 2019. Up 26,000, accounting for 50% of the 50k rise in these deaths. And they are not mostly MVAs but what appear to be drug overdoses:
Accidental poisoning and exposure to noxious substances (X40-X49)
36761 38373 53142 59226 57649 4% 38% 11% -3%
— Intentional self-harm (suicide) (*U03,X60-X84,Y87.0)
22264 22087 22767 23842 23286 -1% 3% 5% -2%
Suicide is pretty flat. People aren’t just offing themselves.
–Assault (homicide) (*U01-*U02,X85-Y09,Y87.1)
14030 14480 19427 20159 18781 3% 34% 4% -7%
Homicide is indeed up hugely–30%, about 5K more deaths. But this is still only about 10% of the extra “young people” deaths.
In summary,
The “Other unspec infectious …” and “Cardiovascular” each are kicking in an extra 10K or so deaths likely through covid and/or vaccime after effects. The “Unspec” is up smartly in 2020–which can not be from vaccine effects but only covid–but adds another 17k deaths 2021 which is going to be both long covid effects and vaccine effects. But then way, way back down in 2022. Cardio is similar, but doesn’t show such a strong 2021 peak. If there are ongoing vaccine effects, they don’t seem to be very strong and have to be teased out from the ongoing covid effects. (This is where we really suffer from having a serious trustworthy CDC, getting and analyzing all the data to tease these issues apart.)
The biggest single extra-deaths cause seems to drug overdoses. Our nation has been intentionally broken and trashed by vile people, and that–unsurprisingly–leads more and more of the not very well put together people to turn to drugs, leading to more “deaths of despair”.
Here I gather it's worse than just the CDC, for infectious diseases had become unfashionable for our public health community. But by no means for the medical community, see for example the departing (((CDC director))) who did a better job than I expected, I assume because she was an infectious disease specialist and teacher of that. Wouldn't be surprised if some vets aren't also looking at the raw data, I gather a number of them are big on epidemiology.
And thanks a lot for being the first to take a good look at the data!
All other diseases (Residual)
is very high. Is it the total of all the (non-covid?) diseases above it, or is there a secret killer out there?
I suppose now we need to see everything divided by race and age cohort to start laying blame.
I was thinking last night about what was the primary cause of the huge drop in deaths in childbirth last century, and why it took millennia to find it. Were people just used to it?
You left out the undisclosed time machine ingredient in these vaccines (thanks to AnotherDad below for being the first to read the data closely). Because outside of Phase III trials of some thousands of people, not all done in the US, and the very few early doses in December, again would be measured in thousands, nobody was getting vaccinated in 2020 when this set of codes made their big jump.
Whereas we know blood clots of all types/sizes are a distinguishing characteristic of COVID, I remember a time doctors were saying it was more a vascular than respiratory system disease, at least when it was bad. Something we learned early when for example those New Orleans pathologists suited up and did some autopsies and had a preprint ready by April 10th, 2020.
I have to admit I’m uncertain how much of this “rage” stems from insanity, for example not perceiving the real world, and arrant stupidity. For example a conviction that Proof by Repeated Assertion is a legitimate debating vs. bullying tactic; after all, the tribe’s shibboleths must be enforced.
(Snipped from the table--2018-22 numbers and year over year % change.)-- Other and unspecified infectious and parasitic diseases and their sequelae
2832 3086 13751 30233 12997 9% 346% 120% -57%\
This is up the biggest % big jumper--up 10,000 (5x) since 2018, But a big, big peak at 30k in 2021. This would be the long Covid effects or potentially vaccine reaction effects.-- Malignant neoplasms (C00-C97)
17719 17693 18195 18542 18674 0% 3% 2% 1%
Cancer is flat.-- Major cardiovascular diseases (I00-I78)
42476 43239 54030 60874 54007 2% 25% 13% -11%
Cardio with up 12k, about 25%. This is the other place you could see covid or vaccine effects, but the huge jump is 2020 which has no vaccine effects.-- Accidents (unintentional injuries) (V01-X59,Y85-Y86)
64798 66219 84848 93503 90792 2% 28% 10% -3%
Accidents are the biggest single "up" factor vis-a-via 2019. Up 26,000, accounting for 50% of the 50k rise in these deaths. And they are not mostly MVAs but what appear to be drug overdoses:
Accidental poisoning and exposure to noxious substances (X40-X49)
36761 38373 53142 59226 57649 4% 38% 11% -3%-- Intentional self-harm (suicide) (*U03,X60-X84,Y87.0)
22264 22087 22767 23842 23286 -1% 3% 5% -2%
Suicide is pretty flat. People aren't just offing themselves.--Assault (homicide) (*U01-*U02,X85-Y09,Y87.1)
14030 14480 19427 20159 18781 3% 34% 4% -7%
Homicide is indeed up hugely--30%, about 5K more deaths. But this is still only about 10% of the extra "young people" deaths.
In summary,
The "Other unspec infectious ..." and "Cardiovascular" each are kicking in an extra 10K or so deaths likely through covid and/or vaccime after effects. The "Unspec" is up smartly in 2020--which can not be from vaccine effects but only covid--but adds another 17k deaths 2021 which is going to be both long covid effects and vaccine effects. But then way, way back down in 2022. Cardio is similar, but doesn't show such a strong 2021 peak. If there are ongoing vaccine effects, they don't seem to be very strong and have to be teased out from the ongoing covid effects. (This is where we really suffer from having a serious trustworthy CDC, getting and analyzing all the data to tease these issues apart.)The biggest single extra-deaths cause seems to drug overdoses. Our nation has been intentionally broken and trashed by vile people, and that--unsurprisingly--leads more and more of the not very well put together people to turn to drugs, leading to more "deaths of despair".Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Dieter Kief
I trust the CDC to tabulate the raw data from death certificates, although my go-to is pure excess deaths which side steps all sorts of issues.
Here I gather it’s worse than just the CDC, for infectious diseases had become unfashionable for our public health community. But by no means for the medical community, see for example the departing (((CDC director))) who did a better job than I expected, I assume because she was an infectious disease specialist and teacher of that. Wouldn’t be surprised if some vets aren’t also looking at the raw data, I gather a number of them are big on epidemiology.
And thanks a lot for being the first to take a good look at the data!
Steve’s table doesn’t seem to have just I-26, but here’s the whole bucket:
Other heart diseases (I26-I51)
27666 27950 34836 39681 34738 1% 25% 14% -12%
As is obvious the big bump up starts in … 2020–i.e. nothing to do with the vax. And note the 2020 bump of 7000 for a virus that only starts hitting any significant number of people in April. And young people do not get vaxxed until mid-way through 2021 … yet the 2022 deaths are down.
So the “perfectly non-conspiracy explanation” is obviously … covid.
That’s the problem with “clot shoters”. You don’t seem to want to admit, that whatever the vaccines is doing, covid seems to be doing (not one shot’s worth, but billions upon billions of cell hijackings and replications) and –without additional data to suggest otherwise–covid does it a lot worse.
If you guys want to make the case, find something that does not skyrocket in 2020, but skyrockets in 2021. Or something that is only moderate in 2020 and early 2021, then noticeably skyrockets in late 2021 after people have had the “clot shot”.
Show me the data and I’m on board. I go where the data goes.
Was that all Covid-19 stuff in '20/'21 or the lack of care? I don't know. How many of these extra CV deaths (still 25% higher than in '19) are due to the vaccines? I mean, the Covid is a nothing burger at this point - seems to be agreement on that here. Or is it, as I have seen, that our older population would have had increasing numbers without Covid, steady without any spike though?
I get the idea of excess death calculations, to bypass the idea of which death got logged as what. Even that's got flaws, which I've written about before.
previous table . . . current table
3403 . . . 67602018 (non-controversial year), Septicemia (non-controversial illness)
previous table . . . current table
1594 . . . 8336I think everyone understands that a few errant death certificates might turn up or change from year to year, causing a slight revision in a death toll, but changing 99% and 423% between 4 and 5 years after the fact on two relatively straightforward and diagnosable diseases? They just discovered in 2022 that a few thousand extra people they didn't notice before died of diabetes and septicemia? And then we're supposed to trust the same source on highly contentious and not straightforwardly diagnosable diseases? SMDH. Why does this matter? Look at the categories being argued about in today's post and the post from six months ago. Example:Other heart diseases
2018 . . . 2019 . . . 2020 . . . 2021
as of a few months ago:
7351 . . . 7226 . . . 8191 . . . 8647
as of today:
27666 . . . 27950 . . . 34836 . . . 39681More than a 300% change in old data since just a few months ago?!? I've long noted that CDC figures move around in gratuitous but politically convenient ways, but these kinds of discrepancies shock even me. The CDC seems to have changed its coding system in the last few months, but that raises a question of its own: why? Publicly reporting corporations can't just recode their accounts from quarter to quarter and massively restate their financial results without raising a lot of market and legal turmoil, so why does the CDC do this with life-and-death data? Maybe there's an innocent explanation for this, but that explanation has a huge chasm to bridge, and until I hear it the CDC looks like just another dishonest purveyor of The Current Truth.Replies: @AnotherDad
That’s been the problem this whole time, the raw data on deaths. Numbers of “cases” were even more ambiguous. Tabulate away, dream babies, but you’re starting with uncertainty.
Doctors put down cause of death for natural deaths. (For suicides, murders, accidents, the coroner is involved.) I’ve already seen 2 different instances of wrong info or no info, both from people I know.
1) Friend’s Dad tested positive for Covid (summer ’22) when he was rushed to the hospital for a major GI problem, which killed him within a couple of days. GI problems were never seen as a Covid symptom. Yet, the Doc recorded this one as a Covid-19 death. My friend got him to change it, but his Mom and Doc reverted it. Yes, money was involved – something like $9,000.
2) Family member (also older, like (1)) died not long after the 2nd booster shot. No, I don’t know that’s the cause of death, but the point on this one is that we checked on entering the info. into that VAERS dBase. Nobody wanted to help us do that.
OK, that 2nd one isn’t about the death cert., per se. Now, don’t start with “that’s only 2 anecdotes, and we got all the data!!” No, see, these anecdotes are the ONLY deaths of people I know in this period. These “anecdotes” are more like examples to me of how the raw data may have a lot of crap in it. I don’t have personal counter-examples, thankfully.
27666 27950 34836 39681 34738 1% 25% 14% -12%As is obvious the big bump up starts in ... 2020--i.e. nothing to do with the vax. And note the 2020 bump of 7000 for a virus that only starts hitting any significant number of people in April. And young people do not get vaxxed until mid-way through 2021 ... yet the 2022 deaths are down.
So the "perfectly non-conspiracy explanation" is obviously ... covid.That's the problem with "clot shoters". You don't seem to want to admit, that whatever the vaccines is doing, covid seems to be doing (not one shot's worth, but billions upon billions of cell hijackings and replications) and --without additional data to suggest otherwise--covid does it a lot worse.If you guys want to make the case, find something that does not skyrocket in 2020, but skyrockets in 2021. Or something that is only moderate in 2020 and early 2021, then noticeably skyrockets in late 2021 after people have had the "clot shot".Show me the data and I'm on board. I go where the data goes.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Mr. Anon, @guizot, @Almost Missouri
Good point, AnotherDad. I don’t maintain that there’s a mass killing going on. Let’s look at the causes of death that have been seen (often very soon) after these shots. That’s be cardiovascular problems, right? It’s always been a big one, and the numbers are big:
OK, so it’s down 11% from ’21 to ’22. Yeah, but like the Black! murders, it comes down from a high level.
Was that all Covid-19 stuff in ’20/’21 or the lack of care? I don’t know. How many of these extra CV deaths (still 25% higher than in ’19) are due to the vaccines? I mean, the Covid is a nothing burger at this point – seems to be agreement on that here. Or is it, as I have seen, that our older population would have had increasing numbers without Covid, steady without any spike though?
I get the idea of excess death calculations, to bypass the idea of which death got logged as what. Even that’s got flaws, which I’ve written about before.
“Is there any 22-year period in the 20th century in which boring old whitebread America accomplished less than vibrant, diverse America 21st century America has so far?”
False conclusion.
Also, it’s Lowe’s. You need a copy editor. 🧐Replies: @Pixo
You have everyone’s location saved in your UnzCommenter.xlsx spreadsheet?
Why haven’t you followed me on Twitter? I might let some other detail slip.
I’ll know it’s you when I get my first anime-loli profile pic with vaporwave Hitler video retweets.
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Why haven’t you followed me on Twitter? I might let some other detail slip.
I’ll know it’s you when I get my first anime-loli profile pic with vaporwave Hitler video retweets.
https://twitter.com/LorlordylorReplies: @Pixo, @Jenner Ickham Errican
I think Kagonovich might be LakewoodNJHotep. If not both solid posters.
Doctors put down cause of death for natural deaths. (For suicides, murders, accidents, the coroner is involved.) I've already seen 2 different instances of wrong info or no info, both from people I know.
1) Friend's Dad tested positive for Covid (summer '22) when he was rushed to the hospital for a major GI problem, which killed him within a couple of days. GI problems were never seen as a Covid symptom. Yet, the Doc recorded this one as a Covid-19 death. My friend got him to change it, but his Mom and Doc reverted it. Yes, money was involved - something like $9,000.
2) Family member (also older, like (1)) died not long after the 2nd booster shot. No, I don't know that's the cause of death, but the point on this one is that we checked on entering the info. into that VAERS dBase. Nobody wanted to help us do that.
OK, that 2nd one isn't about the death cert., per se. Now, don't start with "that's only 2 anecdotes, and we got all the data!!" No, see, these anecdotes are the ONLY deaths of people I know in this period. These "anecdotes" are more like examples to me of how the raw data may have a lot of crap in it. I don't have personal counter-examples, thankfully.Replies: @That Would Be Telling
And here we get your fundamental dishonesty, especially if you intentionally didn’t including linking the above quote to my comment where I said in full:
Because those issues include whatever the Official cause is, on which you hang your counter argument. But not in your next comment as I write this.
False conclusion.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
Well you’re the one always demanding cites.
It’s barked at us constantly without a shred of evidence that “diversity is our greatest strength,” and a good deal of empirical evidence to the contrary.
So: is diversity in fact superior to the old ways? Does it deliver as promised?
Evidence, please, be nice to see some: numeric, statistical, hard-headed.
Sources?
I’m not.
He isn’t dishonest pharma-lackey. You are.
27666 27950 34836 39681 34738 1% 25% 14% -12%As is obvious the big bump up starts in ... 2020--i.e. nothing to do with the vax. And note the 2020 bump of 7000 for a virus that only starts hitting any significant number of people in April. And young people do not get vaxxed until mid-way through 2021 ... yet the 2022 deaths are down.
So the "perfectly non-conspiracy explanation" is obviously ... covid.That's the problem with "clot shoters". You don't seem to want to admit, that whatever the vaccines is doing, covid seems to be doing (not one shot's worth, but billions upon billions of cell hijackings and replications) and --without additional data to suggest otherwise--covid does it a lot worse.If you guys want to make the case, find something that does not skyrocket in 2020, but skyrockets in 2021. Or something that is only moderate in 2020 and early 2021, then noticeably skyrockets in late 2021 after people have had the "clot shot".Show me the data and I'm on board. I go where the data goes.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Mr. Anon, @guizot, @Almost Missouri
What case? I have never maintained that vaccines were killing a lot of people, only that they were (probably) killing people. The risk of taking an unproven vaccine of a novel (and potentially dangerous) type might make sense for a 70 year old diabetic, but probably doesn’t make sense for an 18 year old in good health. And given that the vaccines were mandated in many cases, or that people were coerced into taking them, I think that’s a travesty.
There were probably young people – a not inconsiderable number of people either – who traded a miniscule chance of dying from COVID for………….death. Is that a good bargain?
Are you cool with it? Are you cool with the state compelling you to take medications?
As far as the big bump in both 2020 and 2021 goes, how much of that was iatrogenic? In 2018, medical errors were found (in one study, by Johns Hopkins) to be the third leading cause of death in America.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html
In 2020/2021, you had hundreds of thousands of people put on new and/or unusual treatments – ventilators, Remdesivir – who were not even permitted to have their family members in attendence (think of the disadvantage that puts you in in the hospital setting). Don’t you think that deaths due to medical malpractice might have soared under those conditions.
And – Mr. Another Dad, who is always going on about minoritarianism – the same people who push that pushed the COVID agenda, almost without exception. What does that tell you?
I’m tired of people like you telling people like me that we were somehow in error. Those who councilled caution, those who councilled not running around like a chicken with its feathers on fire, and treating this pandemic like we treated previous pandemics (like the Asian Flu and the Hong Kong Flue), were right. WE were right. YOU were wrong.
Why haven’t you followed me on Twitter? I might let some other detail slip.
I’ll know it’s you when I get my first anime-loli profile pic with vaporwave Hitler video retweets.
https://twitter.com/LorlordylorReplies: @Pixo, @Jenner Ickham Errican
Pixo, your output (going back years now) reads like poorly programmed AI. Your content and vibe is “Hello, fellow commenters!” much like Mark Zuckerberg’s “Hello, fellow humans!”—i.e., unconvincing. You may be a mischling, but your personal copy of Ashkenazi Aspergers is obvious and unfixable, I’m afraid.
Remember when, as cringe commenter Lot, you spammed us with especially wack Pepe the Frog images until I pointed out to you that “Smug Pepe”, a then-favorite of yours, is a downright counter-Semitic meme? You quit posting much Pepe after that.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/noticing/#comment-3210850 (#100)
Now, you’re projecting an imagined straw man of my own content, while you choose to be a derivative cliché on Twitter (handle: “Cromwell Appreciator”). It seems you want to be part of a ‘boy’s club’ of meme-sters, but unfortunately you have no originality so you make do with awkward rehashes of others’ work, like a confused remora. My advice to you is stay off Twitter; you’ll add nothing of value.
immediate goal is having fun s—posting and learning a new medium. 2. Successful memes are nearly always “rehashes.” I lack artistic ability so haven’t even attempted.
Vaccine deaths are an important question so I think you should be on it. You pay attention to subjects without huge consequences for the rest of us like black men with criminal records shooting other black men with criminal records. There could be a sexual angle there for you so you pay a lot of attention to it.
Steve, your chart shows 10,288 in 2020, 26,456 in 2021 and 8,766 in 2022. That’s 45,510 from Covid. What am I misunderstanding. Where are the 1 million deaths?
It’s probably something obvious I’m missing but what is it?
Or is it all the other co morbidities in this chart that are being credited with killing these people, not Covid, they died with Covid? Is that the correct reasoning?
Looking for clarity.Replies: @Steve Sailer
This table is for people under age 45.
(Snipped from the table--2018-22 numbers and year over year % change.)-- Other and unspecified infectious and parasitic diseases and their sequelae
2832 3086 13751 30233 12997 9% 346% 120% -57%\
This is up the biggest % big jumper--up 10,000 (5x) since 2018, But a big, big peak at 30k in 2021. This would be the long Covid effects or potentially vaccine reaction effects.-- Malignant neoplasms (C00-C97)
17719 17693 18195 18542 18674 0% 3% 2% 1%
Cancer is flat.-- Major cardiovascular diseases (I00-I78)
42476 43239 54030 60874 54007 2% 25% 13% -11%
Cardio with up 12k, about 25%. This is the other place you could see covid or vaccine effects, but the huge jump is 2020 which has no vaccine effects.-- Accidents (unintentional injuries) (V01-X59,Y85-Y86)
64798 66219 84848 93503 90792 2% 28% 10% -3%
Accidents are the biggest single "up" factor vis-a-via 2019. Up 26,000, accounting for 50% of the 50k rise in these deaths. And they are not mostly MVAs but what appear to be drug overdoses:
Accidental poisoning and exposure to noxious substances (X40-X49)
36761 38373 53142 59226 57649 4% 38% 11% -3%-- Intentional self-harm (suicide) (*U03,X60-X84,Y87.0)
22264 22087 22767 23842 23286 -1% 3% 5% -2%
Suicide is pretty flat. People aren't just offing themselves.--Assault (homicide) (*U01-*U02,X85-Y09,Y87.1)
14030 14480 19427 20159 18781 3% 34% 4% -7%
Homicide is indeed up hugely--30%, about 5K more deaths. But this is still only about 10% of the extra "young people" deaths.
In summary,
The "Other unspec infectious ..." and "Cardiovascular" each are kicking in an extra 10K or so deaths likely through covid and/or vaccime after effects. The "Unspec" is up smartly in 2020--which can not be from vaccine effects but only covid--but adds another 17k deaths 2021 which is going to be both long covid effects and vaccine effects. But then way, way back down in 2022. Cardio is similar, but doesn't show such a strong 2021 peak. If there are ongoing vaccine effects, they don't seem to be very strong and have to be teased out from the ongoing covid effects. (This is where we really suffer from having a serious trustworthy CDC, getting and analyzing all the data to tease these issues apart.)The biggest single extra-deaths cause seems to drug overdoses. Our nation has been intentionally broken and trashed by vile people, and that--unsurprisingly--leads more and more of the not very well put together people to turn to drugs, leading to more "deaths of despair".Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Dieter Kief
Apropos drug overdoses as most important death cause
(Very much underreported/overlooked (?!) social fact).
https://www.unz.com/isteve/cdc-today-confirms-my-january-4-2023-estimate-that-homicides-were-down-5-in-2022/#comment-6048660The "long-story, short": the increase in magnitude of chance-of-death to drug-overdose is much, much higher than the increases in murder and traffic-accidents. It is true that it doesn't get much coverage, probably in part because it's pretty "unsexy," and in part because the drug-overdose deaths are mainly affect White Middle America.Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Dieter Kief, @Alexander Turok
Everyone I know who was injured by the Covid vaccine is still alive and kicking except one (and that was a confirmed stroke from the vaccine, 3 days after injection)
So ‘Counting Deaths’ is just a b.s. way of avoiding the truth
“ you spammed us with especially wack Pepe the Frog images until I pointed out to you that “Smug Pepe”, a then-favorite of yours, is a downright counter-Semitic meme? You quit posting much Pepe after that.”
This is wrong on so many points. I tweeted a smug pepe only two days ago! As a longtime pol browser I don’t need your instruction on him. Nor do I care if a meme is “counter-Semitic” as I also enjoy Happy Merchant memes and their derivatives. (I don’t post them here as Steve considers them too vulgar, which I respect.)
“ you want to be part of a ‘boy’s club’ of meme-sters, but unfortunately you have no originality so you make do with awkward rehashes of others’ work”
1. I have uses for twitter beyond creating original viral memes, which 99.9% of social media users never do. My
immediate goal is having fun s—posting and learning a new medium.
2. Successful memes are nearly always “rehashes.” I lack artistic ability so haven’t even attempted.
Shut up, Steve. You were and are wrong and you know it. The less you talk about Covid, the better.
The stupid mRNA vaccines shouldn’t have been forced on the population, the stupid lockdowns were indefensible, “Covid” itself was a flu and would have been a nothing-burger except for the delirious social changes promoted by demented bureaucrats, and the whole thing was a freaking mess.
“Gee, 2022 was less crappy than 2020 or 2021.” No wonder. Those years were awful thanks to the “create global chaos to sell a new type of vaccine” policies promoted by people like you. Now it’s kinda slowing down a bit. I never took the stupid vaccine, I had Covid and I’m doing fine. Millions of others would be able to say the same if they hadn’t been basically forced to do it, for no reason.
Great work at moving the goalposts.
Here is what RecentlyBased said “ Real question: Is there any 22-year period in the 20th century in which boring old whitebread America accomplished less than vibrant, diverse America 21st century America has so far?”
He falsely concluded that in the last 23 years our society has accomplished little. Furthermore, he offered no metrics.
As far as citations showing what has America done in this time frame:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/four-success-stories-in-gene-therapy/
https://history.lbl.gov/2000s/
https://www.its.dot.gov/about/HistoryITS_Timeline.pdf
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2019/12/america-still-living-2000s/604174/
Of course, the single greatest achievement in the 2000s and 2010s was the creation of this fine opinion webzine.
27666 27950 34836 39681 34738 1% 25% 14% -12%As is obvious the big bump up starts in ... 2020--i.e. nothing to do with the vax. And note the 2020 bump of 7000 for a virus that only starts hitting any significant number of people in April. And young people do not get vaxxed until mid-way through 2021 ... yet the 2022 deaths are down.
So the "perfectly non-conspiracy explanation" is obviously ... covid.That's the problem with "clot shoters". You don't seem to want to admit, that whatever the vaccines is doing, covid seems to be doing (not one shot's worth, but billions upon billions of cell hijackings and replications) and --without additional data to suggest otherwise--covid does it a lot worse.If you guys want to make the case, find something that does not skyrocket in 2020, but skyrockets in 2021. Or something that is only moderate in 2020 and early 2021, then noticeably skyrockets in late 2021 after people have had the "clot shot".Show me the data and I'm on board. I go where the data goes.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Mr. Anon, @guizot, @Almost Missouri
Well that is certainly something to take into account. One possible explanation is that early on iatrogenic pulmonary embolism possibly induced by ventilation accounts for the early increase. One source says: “about 10% to 40% of COVID-19 patients in hospital intensive care units (ICUs) developed a PE.3”. I have no idea. I am just curious. Explaining the trend as it’s just COVID might be right, but the studies linking pulmonary embolism to COVID don’t seem to control for either iatrogenic cases or for vaccine status. That is why it is maybe premature to dismiss the clot-shotters out of hand. I am just not sure either way and remain curious however much that enrages anyone.
Here where high flow oxygen is not sufficient to keep their blood level high enough (for some reason it didn't (usually? often??) interfere with getting rid of CO2 which drives the breathing reflex). Thus the symptom of "happy hypoxia" where people appeared to be doing OK while their organs were getting damaged or killed because the latter weren't getting enough oxygen.
You have to ask questions like how many people actually were put on ventilators, which is perhaps not all that were sent to an ICU but that sounds like a good first cut assumption. One big problem is that there was a very finite supply of people who could run them which was not something that could be changed in the time frame available.
Next, find autopsies that were done to patents not put on ventilators; for example, look for people who died without going to a hospital. That excludes the four in the very early New Orleans study I previously mentioned.
By asking this question, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel for straws.Replies: @res
Following up on that led to this interesting look at comorbidities by age, sex, and race in England.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landig/article/PIIS2589-7500(22)00187-X/fulltext
27666 27950 34836 39681 34738 1% 25% 14% -12%As is obvious the big bump up starts in ... 2020--i.e. nothing to do with the vax. And note the 2020 bump of 7000 for a virus that only starts hitting any significant number of people in April. And young people do not get vaxxed until mid-way through 2021 ... yet the 2022 deaths are down.
So the "perfectly non-conspiracy explanation" is obviously ... covid.That's the problem with "clot shoters". You don't seem to want to admit, that whatever the vaccines is doing, covid seems to be doing (not one shot's worth, but billions upon billions of cell hijackings and replications) and --without additional data to suggest otherwise--covid does it a lot worse.If you guys want to make the case, find something that does not skyrocket in 2020, but skyrockets in 2021. Or something that is only moderate in 2020 and early 2021, then noticeably skyrockets in late 2021 after people have had the "clot shot".Show me the data and I'm on board. I go where the data goes.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Mr. Anon, @guizot, @Almost Missouri
Unfortunately, the data goes … uh …
Has anyone compared this table of CDC under-age-45 deaths through 2022 with the CDC table of under-age-45 deaths through 2021 that Steve published a few months ago?
Has anyone noticed that they are out-of-sync, and in some places wildly out-of-sync?
A couple of non-controversial examples:
2018 (non-controversial year), Diabetes (non-controversial illness)
previous table . . . current table
3403 . . . 6760
2018 (non-controversial year), Septicemia (non-controversial illness)
previous table . . . current table
1594 . . . 8336
I think everyone understands that a few errant death certificates might turn up or change from year to year, causing a slight revision in a death toll, but changing 99% and 423% between 4 and 5 years after the fact on two relatively straightforward and diagnosable diseases? They just discovered in 2022 that a few thousand extra people they didn’t notice before died of diabetes and septicemia? And then we’re supposed to trust the same source on highly contentious and not straightforwardly diagnosable diseases? SMDH.
Why does this matter? Look at the categories being argued about in today’s post and the post from six months ago. Example:
Other heart diseases
2018 . . . 2019 . . . 2020 . . . 2021
as of a few months ago:
7351 . . . 7226 . . . 8191 . . . 8647
as of today:
27666 . . . 27950 . . . 34836 . . . 39681
More than a 300% change in old data since just a few months ago?!?
I’ve long noted that CDC figures move around in gratuitous but politically convenient ways, but these kinds of discrepancies shock even me.
The CDC seems to have changed its coding system in the last few months, but that raises a question of its own: why? Publicly reporting corporations can’t just recode their accounts from quarter to quarter and massively restate their financial results without raising a lot of market and legal turmoil, so why does the CDC do this with life-and-death data?
Maybe there’s an innocent explanation for this, but that explanation has a huge chasm to bridge, and until I hear it the CDC looks like just another dishonest purveyor of The Current Truth.
-- Different database. (Steve did not have a link to the data yesterday, so I don't know if he was doing the same grab from the same source.)
-- Different buckets. (All three of the ones you referenced are sum buckets--diabetes and septicemia summing 2 buckets, "other heart disease" a whole bunch.)
-- CDC rejiggering--clumping--of buckets to include more cases.
-- Steve's grab was different in some way between the two times.
But you'll notice, there's isn't anything obviously "politically convenient" about the way the numbers shift. Just whatever is different the one he posted yesterday is just much larger.
I like--want--clarity and good data and the CDC has been revealed to be decidedly mediocre in collecting, presenting and making available the death/health data compared to what America ought to be able to do. (They'd rather lecture us on racism.)
But again--however you code them and massage the data--the big bump in deaths, even 0-45 deaths, was in 2020 (covid year), not 2021 (vax) year.
age 0 to 44
2018 199,034 190,831,906 104.3
2019 201,373 190,857,821 105.5 1.2%
2020 245,956 191,054,948 128.7 22.1%
2021 274,481 192,554,292 142.5 11.6%
2022 251,007 192,554,292 130.4 -8.6%
So the whole, "covid is trivial ... the vax is killing people!!!!" thing from a bunch of bozos here is just nonsense. The vax is certainly killing some people. (First exposure to spikey definitely knocks a bunch of folks for a loop.) And quite possibly in the current year--covid variants pretty mild and vax--even bivalent--not seemingly very effective, the vax is a net negative. But clearly the big bump in even younger people having more heart/vascular issues starts with covid showing up.Replies: @Almost Missouri
Still pushing the bullshit I see.
You can count the number of people who “died of covid” on the fingers of one foot.
Covid was just the beginning, I'm afraid. Who's to stop the usual suspects from pulling another psy-op?Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
I agree, BB. I was just referring to this mandatory injection. Will they try THAT again? You’d think Americans would have learned. I’m not so sure of that.
So 'Counting Deaths' is just a b.s. way of avoiding the truthReplies: @Bill Jones
I’ve seen an analysis of deaths by vaccine by manufacturing batch number and it implied that there were good batches and bad batches. I don’t know if the authors thought to look at the handling/transportation/storage discrepancies.
previous table . . . current table
3403 . . . 67602018 (non-controversial year), Septicemia (non-controversial illness)
previous table . . . current table
1594 . . . 8336I think everyone understands that a few errant death certificates might turn up or change from year to year, causing a slight revision in a death toll, but changing 99% and 423% between 4 and 5 years after the fact on two relatively straightforward and diagnosable diseases? They just discovered in 2022 that a few thousand extra people they didn't notice before died of diabetes and septicemia? And then we're supposed to trust the same source on highly contentious and not straightforwardly diagnosable diseases? SMDH. Why does this matter? Look at the categories being argued about in today's post and the post from six months ago. Example:Other heart diseases
2018 . . . 2019 . . . 2020 . . . 2021
as of a few months ago:
7351 . . . 7226 . . . 8191 . . . 8647
as of today:
27666 . . . 27950 . . . 34836 . . . 39681More than a 300% change in old data since just a few months ago?!? I've long noted that CDC figures move around in gratuitous but politically convenient ways, but these kinds of discrepancies shock even me. The CDC seems to have changed its coding system in the last few months, but that raises a question of its own: why? Publicly reporting corporations can't just recode their accounts from quarter to quarter and massively restate their financial results without raising a lot of market and legal turmoil, so why does the CDC do this with life-and-death data? Maybe there's an innocent explanation for this, but that explanation has a huge chasm to bridge, and until I hear it the CDC looks like just another dishonest purveyor of The Current Truth.Replies: @AnotherDad
I don’t know. Plausible explanations:
— Different database. (Steve did not have a link to the data yesterday, so I don’t know if he was doing the same grab from the same source.)
— Different buckets. (All three of the ones you referenced are sum buckets–diabetes and septicemia summing 2 buckets, “other heart disease” a whole bunch.)
— CDC rejiggering–clumping–of buckets to include more cases.
— Steve’s grab was different in some way between the two times.
But you’ll notice, there’s isn’t anything obviously “politically convenient” about the way the numbers shift. Just whatever is different the one he posted yesterday is just much larger.
I like–want–clarity and good data and the CDC has been revealed to be decidedly mediocre in collecting, presenting and making available the death/health data compared to what America ought to be able to do. (They’d rather lecture us on racism.)
But again–however you code them and massage the data–the big bump in deaths, even 0-45 deaths, was in 2020 (covid year), not 2021 (vax) year.
age 0 to 44
2018 199,034 190,831,906 104.3
2019 201,373 190,857,821 105.5 1.2%
2020 245,956 191,054,948 128.7 22.1%
2021 274,481 192,554,292 142.5 11.6%
2022 251,007 192,554,292 130.4 -8.6%
So the whole, “covid is trivial … the vax is killing people!!!!” thing from a bunch of bozos here is just nonsense. The vax is certainly killing some people. (First exposure to spikey definitely knocks a bunch of folks for a loop.) And quite possibly in the current year–covid variants pretty mild and vax–even bivalent–not seemingly very effective, the vax is a net negative. But clearly the big bump in even younger people having more heart/vascular issues starts with covid showing up.
The title "other heart disease” also appears exactly once in each table, but there are many other heart disease categories, which is why last time we talked about this I did combine buckets into a general respiratory disease category (ergo covid-related) and general circulatory disease bucket (ergo covid- and/or vaccine-related). The result was that the clearly covid-type deaths dropped off in the last year, while the possibly vaccine-related deaths continued on, a little Simpson Effect that one misses if one is only looking at total deaths.Right, that's what I was accusing the CDC of. If financial accountants do that, it is arguably fraud. If this is the correct explanation, then it's a bad thing.Maybe, but only Steve knows.I never said this. I don't know who has, if anyone.
The Big Picture, IMHO, is that the public health authorities sold—coercively—a two-item agenda:
1) covid is an extremely threatening disease justifying unprecedented invasions of civil liberty, and
2) the novel vaccines are "safe and effective".
Both of those premises have proven almost entirely false. Covid was similar to past pandemic spikes that passed without massive government interventions, and the vaccines are barely—if at all—effective, and to some degree unsafe.
If everyone involved in those coercive "public health" measures resigns to live as hermits and never bothers us again, we will all be better off.Replies: @Anonymous
Covid was a just a test run. Now that they’ve set up the infrastructure, the legal framework, the surveillance tools and that they’ve trained the population to obey in panic and lock themselves up, put on a mask and shoot themselves up with whatever they’re told to, they won’t give up. Next time, WHO will run the exercise from top to bottom without local interference.
People know the disease is not really the same disease, which is why demand for the vaccines has cratered and many governments find themselves sitting on large stockpiles of vaccines that they will need to throw away. These same governments are now trying to squirm out of contracts with big pharma to buy even more of them.
Things are never going to return to normal after this. We locked down the country and printed up and passed out trillions of dollars to try to offset the negative economic effects for a disease where the average age of death was 78 and which 99.7% of those under sixty survived. It caused high inflation, which we will ultimately fail to get under control, and a contracting economy. Incomes adjusted for inflation have dropped 26 months in a row. A collection of parasitic special interests has fastened itself on the country and is slowly sucking it dry. One of these parasitic special interests is the big pharma/medical cartel/government health regulatory agency combo which brought us economically damaging lockdowns, killed large numbers of people in hospitals with ventilators and Remdesivir, forced young people to get vaccinations that may have done more harm than good, and threatened to take the licenses of doctors who were trying to develop and implement early home treatment programs that would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.Replies: @Cagey Beast, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Corpse Tooth, @Dmon, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad
I tend to be pretty pessimistic as well, but a lot of people–usual younger–focus on the pandemic, lockdowns, money printing binge, etc. But none of that actually matters very much.
The US ran up its debt very dramatically to fight the War. Basically, wracked up an entire pre-war GDP’s worth of spend on top of taxation, and ended up with debt-to-GDP ratio of something like 115–very similar to where we are today.
But that America was 90% white, had far and away the world’s largest industrial economy and relatively sane and patriotic national elite, with a nationalist uplift ideology. If we had all that today, we’d sail right on through the covid debt no problem.
But we are not that country. Whites are down to something nearing 60% of the US population–and dropping fast. China is the world’s largest industrial economy. And we have a toxic minoritarian ideology, propagandized by a disloyal parasitic elite, controlling a graspy super-state with tens of millions of parasitic hangers on and waving millions of foreigners across the border. We’re further and further from 1945 America every day.
That’s the crisis.
Hang our “elites” from lampposts, toss out minoritarianism for majoritarian nationalism, close the border and end mass immigration, rein in government and finance, shut down parasitic grifts and get people back to work producing … and while we’d never be the nation we were, we could turn this thing around pretty smartly–and our debt level quite tractable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb6BtT2VW2M
-- Different database. (Steve did not have a link to the data yesterday, so I don't know if he was doing the same grab from the same source.)
-- Different buckets. (All three of the ones you referenced are sum buckets--diabetes and septicemia summing 2 buckets, "other heart disease" a whole bunch.)
-- CDC rejiggering--clumping--of buckets to include more cases.
-- Steve's grab was different in some way between the two times.
But you'll notice, there's isn't anything obviously "politically convenient" about the way the numbers shift. Just whatever is different the one he posted yesterday is just much larger.
I like--want--clarity and good data and the CDC has been revealed to be decidedly mediocre in collecting, presenting and making available the death/health data compared to what America ought to be able to do. (They'd rather lecture us on racism.)
But again--however you code them and massage the data--the big bump in deaths, even 0-45 deaths, was in 2020 (covid year), not 2021 (vax) year.
age 0 to 44
2018 199,034 190,831,906 104.3
2019 201,373 190,857,821 105.5 1.2%
2020 245,956 191,054,948 128.7 22.1%
2021 274,481 192,554,292 142.5 11.6%
2022 251,007 192,554,292 130.4 -8.6%
So the whole, "covid is trivial ... the vax is killing people!!!!" thing from a bunch of bozos here is just nonsense. The vax is certainly killing some people. (First exposure to spikey definitely knocks a bunch of folks for a loop.) And quite possibly in the current year--covid variants pretty mild and vax--even bivalent--not seemingly very effective, the vax is a net negative. But clearly the big bump in even younger people having more heart/vascular issues starts with covid showing up.Replies: @Almost Missouri
Okay, so CDC might have different versions of the truth. Great. Which one is the real truth?
No. I specifically chose Diabetes and Septicemia because they each appear exactly once in both tables, yet with wildly divergent numbers.
The title “other heart disease” also appears exactly once in each table, but there are many other heart disease categories, which is why last time we talked about this I did combine buckets into a general respiratory disease category (ergo covid-related) and general circulatory disease bucket (ergo covid- and/or vaccine-related). The result was that the clearly covid-type deaths dropped off in the last year, while the possibly vaccine-related deaths continued on, a little Simpson Effect that one misses if one is only looking at total deaths.
Right, that’s what I was accusing the CDC of. If financial accountants do that, it is arguably fraud. If this is the correct explanation, then it’s a bad thing.
Maybe, but only Steve knows.
I never said this. I don’t know who has, if anyone.
The Big Picture, IMHO, is that the public health authorities sold—coercively—a two-item agenda:
1) covid is an extremely threatening disease justifying unprecedented invasions of civil liberty, and
2) the novel vaccines are “safe and effective”.
Both of those premises have proven almost entirely false. Covid was similar to past pandemic spikes that passed without massive government interventions, and the vaccines are barely—if at all—effective, and to some degree unsafe.
If everyone involved in those coercive “public health” measures resigns to live as hermits and never bothers us again, we will all be better off.
That's the fundamental problem in intelligence work.
You want something as trustworthy as "I see that the Sun is shining". You usually can't get that.
Western society is not a modern society anymore. WW I's mass casualties ended that. Rationality, which had so improved life, turned out to be able to make it into a killing nightmare for unsuspecting people who thought they were getting into something else.
Western society is a post-modern society, Postmodernism replacing rationality (discarded as another failed "Grand narrative").
All that we can be certain of in this case is that many people were hurt and died during the COVID era, that the medical/pharmaceutical sector thinks that it killed quite a few people and is lying about the entire COVID era. There is some information that suggests the medical/pharmaceutical sector was acting on enforced orders from the biological warfare sector, so it is possible that the medical/pharmaceutical sector may not be ultimately to blame.
I've seen this sort of thing before, in the loss of the Challenger and Columbia space shuttles. Subsequent investigation revealed fraud in initial program justification, incompetent engineering caused by "political reality", meaning political incentives, and incompetent operations caused by NASA interpretation of a Presidential speech. The entire Space Shuttle program had been a fraud executed by a ground staff of incompetents coupled with a government that wanted stasis while trying to convince the population that things were still progressing. It was never capable of reaching its stated goals, either military or civil.
The above are about the only things that are as certain as a shining sun just now.
BTW, in the same way that you would have to be insane to see a psychiatrist, you would have to be really sick to see a physician, or really ignorant and desperate to trust the data CDC publishes. That's the applicable part of the above.
The failure and subsequent dissolution of every reality-linked faction in the West since the end of WW II has left us with Postmodernist / racist fanatics, capable only of "painting themselves into a corner" as with the Green Energy programs and, of course, COVID.
Lol, I was going to wind up my previous comment with something like this, but then decided to go with the kinder and gentler “hermit” thing, and posted it that way. Then it turns out you said it for me.
Your debt solution sounds workable, but of course it’s a fantasy — sort of like the equally unreal (but much more fun) solution of just putting me in charge for five years with a blank check, carte blanche, and zero accountability. The place would look all bright and shiny when I was through, but you’d have to hire a *lot* of cleaners afterwards.
I feel like I know less about the kung flu now than I did three years ago.
I never got the clot shot, not due to some fundamental hostility to vaxxes, but due to the government giving such contradictory “information,” and the msm spreading purely fictional stories (e.g., “racism is a co-morbidity”) about the wuhan china virus, that I could not make a rational decision.
A couple of years ago, I noticed that the government had engaged in the obviously fakestat operation of “disappearing” the flu, which someone re-posted here a few days ago. People didn’t suddenly stop catching the flu. From that, I concluded that hundreds of thousands of cases written up in the U.S. as covid were actually the flu.
Meanwhile, The Boss, who is a veteran nursing home nurse, has told me all about her place of work lying about rampant cases of the china flu since 2020.
Oh, and for years The Boss told me that if I caught the kung flu, I’d drop like a fly, due to my age and many underlying conditions. Well, she was pleasantly surprised when I caught it over Thanksgiving 2022 weekend from our grown son, but survived, after spending 14 hours a day in the sack for a few.
Granted, my individual case means little, and I did lose others to china, but if I can’t get my hands on any clean data.
Meanwhile, the stories by “experts,” “reporters,” “scholars,” etc. have been so phony, with them using “covid” to explain everything from the explosion in black crime that the dnc/msm had instigated (“the reckoning”) to continued low TV ratings for sporting events (why would Whites in lockdown watch LESS, rather than MORE sports?; in reality, millions of Whites had stopped watching black athletes years ago, due to the league suits’ support of blm) I concluded, as with so many other issues today, that we are stuck in a totalitarian twilight zone.
Anyway, thanks for your take on the Kung Flu (and use of that word) and your story regarding the vaccines.
I never had much confidence in herd immunity from vaccines and thought we should only have been isolating and vaccinating the vulnerable. Wonder how accurate the early vaccine efficacy numbers were since we never saw a sharp decline in deaths once the population was maximally vaccinated.
The worst thing was the official partnership between government and media to suppress dissent. This was a big f-up because it destroyed trust. They would do this about things that later turned out to be true (or at least not crazy) and then say with a straight face that the science changed and it was totally correct to suppress the truth because it wasn't the truth at the time.
I never got the clot shot, not due to some fundamental hostility to vaxxes, but due to the government giving such contradictory "information," and the msm spreading purely fictional stories (e.g., "racism is a co-morbidity") about the wuhan china virus, that I could not make a rational decision.
A couple of years ago, I noticed that the government had engaged in the obviously fakestat operation of "disappearing" the flu, which someone re-posted here a few days ago. People didn't suddenly stop catching the flu. From that, I concluded that hundreds of thousands of cases written up in the U.S. as covid were actually the flu.
Meanwhile, The Boss, who is a veteran nursing home nurse, has told me all about her place of work lying about rampant cases of the china flu since 2020.
Oh, and for years The Boss told me that if I caught the kung flu, I'd drop like a fly, due to my age and many underlying conditions. Well, she was pleasantly surprised when I caught it over Thanksgiving 2022 weekend from our grown son, but survived, after spending 14 hours a day in the sack for a few.
Granted, my individual case means little, and I did lose others to china, but if I can't get my hands on any clean data.
Meanwhile, the stories by "experts," "reporters," "scholars," etc. have been so phony, with them using "covid" to explain everything from the explosion in black crime that the dnc/msm had instigated ("the reckoning") to continued low TV ratings for sporting events (why would Whites in lockdown watch LESS, rather than MORE sports?; in reality, millions of Whites had stopped watching black athletes years ago, due to the league suits' support of blm) I concluded, as with so many other issues today, that we are stuck in a totalitarian twilight zone.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Erik L
About the lying, per your wife, Nick, there was a LOT of money involved. People are known to lie for money. I’ve read a number of apologies or attempts at apologies from formerly Panic-stricken pundits/writers, but I cannot remember one who acknowledged how HUGE the monetary incentives were to inflate that PanicFest.
Anyway, thanks for your take on the Kung Flu (and use of that word) and your story regarding the vaccines.
1960's: Too young to rate, vaguely remember the years 68-69. Remember NY Jets, Mets, Knicks beat Baltimore Colts, Orioles, Bullets in post season. Charles Manson, Moon Landing, that's about it.
1970's: 8. The Me Decade was great. A 10+ compared to the 2000's, A 12+ compared to 2020's. Great music, America was still overwhelmingly White. Movies were still watchable. Cartoons were not weird. Fitness craze starts thinks to Jim Fixx, the movies, "Pumping Iron" and "Rocky." Boxing title fights shown on network television. Television did not have commercials every 5 minutes. Three Triple Crown winners in horse racing in one decade.
1980's: 9. Truly the best decade in the last half century. The last decade of Traditional White America. Best decade for music. Simpler times, but people were much more pleasant, definitely smarter, less hateful, etc.
1990s: 7. The beginning of the end for Traditional White America. Once thriving cities were rapidly declining at warp speed. Last decade that produced anything worth listening to in music. Mexicans and others showing up in places other than Texas, California, etc.
2000's: 5. The Beaner Invasion is amped up after Ruby a takes office. Movies/music/television is sub par for the most part. 911.
2010's: 3.5. Shit on all levels.
2020's: Stolen election. Corrupt FBI. Corrupt DOJ. Homelessness everywhere. Rating 1.Replies: @Known Fact
Agree, there’s a clear downward trend. The 60s did suffer from all the assassinations, race riots and Vietnam but at least TV was good. How anyone in the dismal dystopian 2020s can complain about the relatively blissful, happily dopey 70s and 80s is beyond me. We do now have the mind-boggling wonder of the internet and yet people don’t seem happier, do they?
I never got the clot shot, not due to some fundamental hostility to vaxxes, but due to the government giving such contradictory "information," and the msm spreading purely fictional stories (e.g., "racism is a co-morbidity") about the wuhan china virus, that I could not make a rational decision.
A couple of years ago, I noticed that the government had engaged in the obviously fakestat operation of "disappearing" the flu, which someone re-posted here a few days ago. People didn't suddenly stop catching the flu. From that, I concluded that hundreds of thousands of cases written up in the U.S. as covid were actually the flu.
Meanwhile, The Boss, who is a veteran nursing home nurse, has told me all about her place of work lying about rampant cases of the china flu since 2020.
Oh, and for years The Boss told me that if I caught the kung flu, I'd drop like a fly, due to my age and many underlying conditions. Well, she was pleasantly surprised when I caught it over Thanksgiving 2022 weekend from our grown son, but survived, after spending 14 hours a day in the sack for a few.
Granted, my individual case means little, and I did lose others to china, but if I can't get my hands on any clean data.
Meanwhile, the stories by "experts," "reporters," "scholars," etc. have been so phony, with them using "covid" to explain everything from the explosion in black crime that the dnc/msm had instigated ("the reckoning") to continued low TV ratings for sporting events (why would Whites in lockdown watch LESS, rather than MORE sports?; in reality, millions of Whites had stopped watching black athletes years ago, due to the league suits' support of blm) I concluded, as with so many other issues today, that we are stuck in a totalitarian twilight zone.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Erik L
Now that you say that, I feel similarly. I think generally people have been too polar in their positions and got more so over time. I do believe it was a real thing and that excess deaths early on were almost entirely due to it, but we recently see excess deaths continuing which makes me wonder how many of the mid pandemic deaths were really from COVID. The flu dissappearing doesn’t raise much suspicion because all the isolation that people did would have been more effective against flu than COVID in my estimation.
I never had much confidence in herd immunity from vaccines and thought we should only have been isolating and vaccinating the vulnerable. Wonder how accurate the early vaccine efficacy numbers were since we never saw a sharp decline in deaths once the population was maximally vaccinated.
The worst thing was the official partnership between government and media to suppress dissent. This was a big f-up because it destroyed trust. They would do this about things that later turned out to be true (or at least not crazy) and then say with a straight face that the science changed and it was totally correct to suppress the truth because it wasn’t the truth at the time.
The title "other heart disease” also appears exactly once in each table, but there are many other heart disease categories, which is why last time we talked about this I did combine buckets into a general respiratory disease category (ergo covid-related) and general circulatory disease bucket (ergo covid- and/or vaccine-related). The result was that the clearly covid-type deaths dropped off in the last year, while the possibly vaccine-related deaths continued on, a little Simpson Effect that one misses if one is only looking at total deaths.Right, that's what I was accusing the CDC of. If financial accountants do that, it is arguably fraud. If this is the correct explanation, then it's a bad thing.Maybe, but only Steve knows.I never said this. I don't know who has, if anyone.
The Big Picture, IMHO, is that the public health authorities sold—coercively—a two-item agenda:
1) covid is an extremely threatening disease justifying unprecedented invasions of civil liberty, and
2) the novel vaccines are "safe and effective".
Both of those premises have proven almost entirely false. Covid was similar to past pandemic spikes that passed without massive government interventions, and the vaccines are barely—if at all—effective, and to some degree unsafe.
If everyone involved in those coercive "public health" measures resigns to live as hermits and never bothers us again, we will all be better off.Replies: @Anonymous
Trust the trustworthy data. Doubt the rest of the data.
That’s the fundamental problem in intelligence work.
You want something as trustworthy as “I see that the Sun is shining”. You usually can’t get that.
Western society is not a modern society anymore. WW I’s mass casualties ended that. Rationality, which had so improved life, turned out to be able to make it into a killing nightmare for unsuspecting people who thought they were getting into something else.
Western society is a post-modern society, Postmodernism replacing rationality (discarded as another failed “Grand narrative”).
All that we can be certain of in this case is that many people were hurt and died during the COVID era, that the medical/pharmaceutical sector thinks that it killed quite a few people and is lying about the entire COVID era. There is some information that suggests the medical/pharmaceutical sector was acting on enforced orders from the biological warfare sector, so it is possible that the medical/pharmaceutical sector may not be ultimately to blame.
I’ve seen this sort of thing before, in the loss of the Challenger and Columbia space shuttles. Subsequent investigation revealed fraud in initial program justification, incompetent engineering caused by “political reality”, meaning political incentives, and incompetent operations caused by NASA interpretation of a Presidential speech. The entire Space Shuttle program had been a fraud executed by a ground staff of incompetents coupled with a government that wanted stasis while trying to convince the population that things were still progressing. It was never capable of reaching its stated goals, either military or civil.
The above are about the only things that are as certain as a shining sun just now.
BTW, in the same way that you would have to be insane to see a psychiatrist, you would have to be really sick to see a physician, or really ignorant and desperate to trust the data CDC publishes. That’s the applicable part of the above.
The failure and subsequent dissolution of every reality-linked faction in the West since the end of WW II has left us with Postmodernist / racist fanatics, capable only of “painting themselves into a corner” as with the Green Energy programs and, of course, COVID.
Steve: “2022 was a pretty good year”
OK fair enough…
But yoiks! All those tables of diseases and CODs! I used to work as a medical transcriber in a big hospital, and so I always had a medical dictionary on my desk. PRO TIP: if you ever find yourself having a nervous breakdown, DO NOT read a medical dictionary!
Here is a blast from the past (same song as above, different version) from the Bad Old Days... my 1980s were definitely not the 1980s people are nostalgic for. When I think how many times I nearly got myself killed....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oAh71OIRgw
A while ago I was chatting on the phone with an old comrade from the barricades, she is now a happy suburban mom with a large family. I said, "Doesn't it feel *great* to not be crazy anymore?" She laughed and said "Yeah. But you know what? I think we're a lot saner than most people now, because we were such lunatics then." Sounds reasonable... until it isn't. (GOTHIC ORGAN STING)
By the Vibrantly Diverse Mr Unz.
OK fair enough...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr8auZq-Xn8
But yoiks! All those tables of diseases and CODs! I used to work as a medical transcriber in a big hospital, and so I always had a medical dictionary on my desk. PRO TIP: if you ever find yourself having a nervous breakdown, DO NOT read a medical dictionary!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksTnIusczh0Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
Speaking of nervous breakdowns…
Here is a blast from the past (same song as above, different version) from the Bad Old Days… my 1980s were definitely not the 1980s people are nostalgic for. When I think how many times I nearly got myself killed….
A while ago I was chatting on the phone with an old comrade from the barricades, she is now a happy suburban mom with a large family. I said, “Doesn’t it feel *great* to not be crazy anymore?” She laughed and said “Yeah. But you know what? I think we’re a lot saner than most people now, because we were such lunatics then.” Sounds reasonable… until it isn’t. (GOTHIC ORGAN STING)
You need to see if blood clots of all sizes are if not ubiquitous in severe cases of COVID are so strongly associated with them the don’t fit this hypothesis, or you can’t establish a cause and effect relationship. Note COVID symptoms includes clots of such a wide range of sizes I have to wonder if they are a normal result of being put on a ventilator, which is something only done when you’d otherwise lose the patient.
Here where high flow oxygen is not sufficient to keep their blood level high enough (for some reason it didn’t (usually? often??) interfere with getting rid of CO2 which drives the breathing reflex). Thus the symptom of “happy hypoxia” where people appeared to be doing OK while their organs were getting damaged or killed because the latter weren’t getting enough oxygen.
You have to ask questions like how many people actually were put on ventilators, which is perhaps not all that were sent to an ICU but that sounds like a good first cut assumption. One big problem is that there was a very finite supply of people who could run them which was not something that could be changed in the time frame available.
Next, find autopsies that were done to patents not put on ventilators; for example, look for people who died without going to a hospital. That excludes the four in the very early New Orleans study I previously mentioned.
Coming in late to say there were always three obvious truths –
All the evidence from early on indicated a real threat from Covid. That is why there was an overreaction.
All anyone needed was a single dose of mRNA vaccine to combat the most terrible symptoms and outcomes. If Biden admin had simply dumped the 300 million doses Feb – March 2021 the whole thing would have been over end of 2021.
No one but the national teachers union thinks school lockdowns were a good idea. That will end up being the single biggest negative impact of the pandemic.
Here is a corollary item that cannot be proven with data – the only thing worse than a covid fear fanatic is a covid vaccine fear fanatic. At least the former had the example of China completely shutting down to spur their fear. The latter simply thrives from online resources as stupid and unconvincing as any wokester.
I will finally say as a two time trump supporter that you guys have worked very very hard to remove the one undeniable great thing that the Trump admin did – the production of three beautiful vaccines that would have ended the crisis except for the distribution bumbling of the Biden admin, which included embracing the idea that forcing people to take vaccines would convince them it was safe.
Cheers – every wind is at the GOP’s back for 2024 – just like Hillary had every wind at her back in 2016.
See also the near complete dearth of vaccination schedules that only require one dose, and why some exceptions make sense like flu which doesn't have to last very long.You could make a case for it until the vaccines were available. That (((they))) continued long after, overruling the ((("Biden" CDC Director))) and also insisted on masking children....And one bad one, serious adverse effects at a high enough rate the Janssen one hasn't been recommended for a long time. This and Oxford's first major use of adenoviruses as a vector revealed they're a bad platform, something you may only find in Phase IV "post-marketing." Effective though, seems to have met its goal of being the most effective single dose vaccine, but still not better than two mRNA doses (Novavax (stabilized spike protein plus adjuvant) as a booster is not yet authorized, studies in progress).
Not sure Trump's vaccine accomplishments outweighed how his COVID response put his pathological narcissism on full display, and every day for far too long. But as you note, the Right in general is now completely reversing the really big accomplishment in their minds for what those are worth, which along with many other things absent a 1980 style landslide is perhaps enough to cost them and the GOP the Oval Office in 2024.Replies: @Paul Rise
See my calculations of “implied lifetime-chance of death” by car-accident, homicide, and drug-overdose:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/cdc-today-confirms-my-january-4-2023-estimate-that-homicides-were-down-5-in-2022/#comment-6048660
The “long-story, short”: the increase in magnitude of chance-of-death to drug-overdose is much, much higher than the increases in murder and traffic-accidents. It is true that it doesn’t get much coverage, probably in part because it’s pretty “unsexy,” and in part because the drug-overdose deaths are mainly affect White Middle America.
https://twitter.com/DieterKief/status/1678334743123832832?s=20Replies: @Mr. Anon
All the evidence from early on indicated a real threat from Covid. That is why there was an overreaction.
All anyone needed was a single dose of mRNA vaccine to combat the most terrible symptoms and outcomes. If Biden admin had simply dumped the 300 million doses Feb - March 2021 the whole thing would have been over end of 2021.
No one but the national teachers union thinks school lockdowns were a good idea. That will end up being the single biggest negative impact of the pandemic.
Here is a corollary item that cannot be proven with data - the only thing worse than a covid fear fanatic is a covid vaccine fear fanatic. At least the former had the example of China completely shutting down to spur their fear. The latter simply thrives from online resources as stupid and unconvincing as any wokester.
I will finally say as a two time trump supporter that you guys have worked very very hard to remove the one undeniable great thing that the Trump admin did - the production of three beautiful vaccines that would have ended the crisis except for the distribution bumbling of the Biden admin, which included embracing the idea that forcing people to take vaccines would convince them it was safe.
Cheers - every wind is at the GOP's back for 2024 - just like Hillary had every wind at her back in 2016.Replies: @That Would Be Telling
Given how short the interval was between the two normal doses, prime plus first boost, and that it takes a minimum of eight days for the first to do its thing with our adaptive immune systems, how could you even generate enough data to know this?? The surrogate data of antibodies etc. says no, as I recall particularly for the cellular immune system.
See also the near complete dearth of vaccination schedules that only require one dose, and why some exceptions make sense like flu which doesn’t have to last very long.
You could make a case for it until the vaccines were available. That (((they))) continued long after, overruling the (((“Biden” CDC Director))) and also insisted on masking children….
And one bad one, serious adverse effects at a high enough rate the Janssen one hasn’t been recommended for a long time. This and Oxford’s first major use of adenoviruses as a vector revealed they’re a bad platform, something you may only find in Phase IV “post-marketing.” Effective though, seems to have met its goal of being the most effective single dose vaccine, but still not better than two mRNA doses (Novavax (stabilized spike protein plus adjuvant) as a booster is not yet authorized, studies in progress).
Not sure Trump’s vaccine accomplishments outweighed how his COVID response put his pathological narcissism on full display, and every day for far too long. But as you note, the Right in general is now completely reversing the really big accomplishment in their minds for what those are worth, which along with many other things absent a 1980 style landslide is perhaps enough to cost them and the GOP the Oval Office in 2024.
Side effects from this vaccine will end up shown to be suffered almost entirely by people who received the unneeded second dose too soon or people who had suffered from covid in the previous 4 - 6 months.
Generally the whole problem with the pandemic was irrational panic in the face of the crisis compared to cool measured risk assessment combined with the elites realization around April 2020 that a neat side effect of the panic would be the fall of the Trump admin.
Trump only lost because of the riots, his own contraction of covid and the betrayal of not releasing the vaccine results. All but one of these factors were the result of system manipulation by the powers that be. (I dont care for Trump and wish he would slink off in shame but he has none.)
https://www.unz.com/isteve/cdc-today-confirms-my-january-4-2023-estimate-that-homicides-were-down-5-in-2022/#comment-6048660The "long-story, short": the increase in magnitude of chance-of-death to drug-overdose is much, much higher than the increases in murder and traffic-accidents. It is true that it doesn't get much coverage, probably in part because it's pretty "unsexy," and in part because the drug-overdose deaths are mainly affect White Middle America.Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Dieter Kief, @Alexander Turok
Mr. Hail – – -we – – – at Peak Stupidity and at your blog Hail-to-You: We know about these things – – -and have written plenty about it – as has Steve Sailer from whom I know the expression Death by Despair.
I vividly remember your top calculations…
As to the why: Overdose deaths are being looked upon as mainly a character issue. – A kind of self-annihilation of the rather lowly, rather down and out (not least white…) classes – what should society have to do with that?
Martin Christopher Riojas wrote the canonical text about this situation. This feature/essay would be in any essaycollection I’d put together – no matter what the ordering principles would be. Sadly, this young man died soon afterwards.
https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2021/09/15/grace-and-grit-in-southern-west-virginia/
Btw. – – – one of the best pain researchers I know of had a lab in West Virginia – in Roanoke – – Professor Herta Flor, now based in Mannheim. I spoke with her about her US experiences. She worked in West Virginia 2012 ff. if I remember right; and she had a dozen doctorate students there and they had to change the anamnesis routines because most patients could not remember much about the history of their pains and aches. – Turned out they had been drugged up to the state of amnesia – for years – – or decades! – with prescription drugs. Of course – mostly rather low status (white) people. Herta Flor was – – -shocked to encounter that. She said they couldn’t think of a single reason to do something like that, let alone do it at a large scale.
https://twitter.com/adam_tooze/status/1675827979044134912?s=20
https://www.unz.com/isteve/cdc-today-confirms-my-january-4-2023-estimate-that-homicides-were-down-5-in-2022/#comment-6048660The "long-story, short": the increase in magnitude of chance-of-death to drug-overdose is much, much higher than the increases in murder and traffic-accidents. It is true that it doesn't get much coverage, probably in part because it's pretty "unsexy," and in part because the drug-overdose deaths are mainly affect White Middle America.Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Dieter Kief, @Alexander Turok
well underreported too – – -honi soit qui mal y pense – – you shall not notice – –
https://www.unz.com/isteve/cdc-today-confirms-my-january-4-2023-estimate-that-homicides-were-down-5-in-2022/#comment-6048660The "long-story, short": the increase in magnitude of chance-of-death to drug-overdose is much, much higher than the increases in murder and traffic-accidents. It is true that it doesn't get much coverage, probably in part because it's pretty "unsexy," and in part because the drug-overdose deaths are mainly affect White Middle America.Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Dieter Kief, @Alexander Turok
That was true at the beggining of the opiod epidemic, but is no longer true as black gangs have gotten into selling Fentanyl.
https://twitter.com/DieterKief/status/1678334743123832832?s=20Replies: @Mr. Anon
To paraphrase that old lush, Nancy Pelosi: You have to be willing to drown the kids……….for the children!
One of the least famous Fentanyl deaths in the World was George Floyd – the only man in the entire World who tested positive for SARS-COV-2, and yet was not counted as a COVID death.
For Mr. Turok, Mr. Hail is concerned with deaths from Fentanyl, not distribution and sales. (Sure, there are probably a small number of deaths involved in the distribution too, but that's just standard Black! dysfunction.)Replies: @Mike Tre
Nice one, Mr. Anon!
For Mr. Turok, Mr. Hail is concerned with deaths from Fentanyl, not distribution and sales. (Sure, there are probably a small number of deaths involved in the distribution too, but that’s just standard Black! dysfunction.)
more disturbing facts about the US social decline – not least in West Virginia – –
For Mr. Turok, Mr. Hail is concerned with deaths from Fentanyl, not distribution and sales. (Sure, there are probably a small number of deaths involved in the distribution too, but that's just standard Black! dysfunction.)Replies: @Mike Tre
Robert DeNiro’s grandson son recently died of a fentanyl OD.
LEANDRO De NIRO
– Born: June 25, 2004.
– Age when the Corona-Panic came on the scene (March 2020): Fifteen. He will have been (most likely) in the latter part of 10th grade in school.
– Time lost or disrupted due to the Corona-Panic: Part of his “age-fifteen” year; all of his “age-sixteen” year; much of his “age-seventeen” year.
– Date of death to drug overdose: July 2, 2023. (One week after 19th birthday.)
See also the near complete dearth of vaccination schedules that only require one dose, and why some exceptions make sense like flu which doesn't have to last very long.You could make a case for it until the vaccines were available. That (((they))) continued long after, overruling the ((("Biden" CDC Director))) and also insisted on masking children....And one bad one, serious adverse effects at a high enough rate the Janssen one hasn't been recommended for a long time. This and Oxford's first major use of adenoviruses as a vector revealed they're a bad platform, something you may only find in Phase IV "post-marketing." Effective though, seems to have met its goal of being the most effective single dose vaccine, but still not better than two mRNA doses (Novavax (stabilized spike protein plus adjuvant) as a booster is not yet authorized, studies in progress).
Not sure Trump's vaccine accomplishments outweighed how his COVID response put his pathological narcissism on full display, and every day for far too long. But as you note, the Right in general is now completely reversing the really big accomplishment in their minds for what those are worth, which along with many other things absent a 1980 style landslide is perhaps enough to cost them and the GOP the Oval Office in 2024.Replies: @Paul Rise
See also the data provided esp by Moderna that showed robust immune response from one dose.
Side effects from this vaccine will end up shown to be suffered almost entirely by people who received the unneeded second dose too soon or people who had suffered from covid in the previous 4 – 6 months.
Generally the whole problem with the pandemic was irrational panic in the face of the crisis compared to cool measured risk assessment combined with the elites realization around April 2020 that a neat side effect of the panic would be the fall of the Trump admin.
Trump only lost because of the riots, his own contraction of covid and the betrayal of not releasing the vaccine results. All but one of these factors were the result of system manipulation by the powers that be. (I dont care for Trump and wish he would slink off in shame but he has none.)