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One of president Trump’s greatest abilities as a politician is his remarkable ability to bring out the worst in his opponents.

Case in point: Nancy Pelosi’s cringe-inducing paper-ripping gimmick. Following on the heels of Trump’s acquittal made it appear especially petty. Independents were not amused. Net sentiment* by selected demographic characteristics follow:

Democrats didn’t cheer as loudly as Republicans booed and hissed. Expect the clip to make its way into GOP campaign ads over the next several months.

* Calculated as (2 * % strongly approve)+(% somewhat approve)-(% somewhat disapprove)-(2 * % strongly disapprove)

 
• Category: Culture/Society, Ideology • Tags: Election 2020, Politics, Polling 
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  1. Mannered Millenials and Zeds

    Men saw an HR lady

    Women were more accomodating

    Did not energize Dems as much as it irritated Republicans

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    Blacks.

    Is this generational nonsense like some viewed Marxism, an attempt to divide society along artificial lines? Divide and conquer.
  2. She doesn’t care about independents opinions and she certainly doesn’t care about republicans. She doesn’t even care about helping a dem beat Trump in 2020. She is trying to maintain her own position within the party. Period.

    The dems are now on the path that the GOP started down in 2015: collapse of the party establishment. The GOP leadership made it clear that it did not care about winning elections, much less delivering any benefit to its voters. It was singularly concerned with maintaining control of the party. On the Dem side, the same thing is happening. I think the Dem establishment is smarter than that of the GOP, and more ruthless besides. And Bernie, imo, is not going to actually flip over the table if he doesn’t win. So I think the Dem establishment will end up staying in control.

    Also, prediction: Pelosi ripping up Trump’s speech will have literally zero impact on the 2020 election.

  3. Send her back to bitch school.

  4. Congress is becoming more and more theatrical.

    I wish I could find a history of the costumes and symbols that the democrats have worn, over the years at the State of the Union, and learn when they began the practice, but every time that I see it, it reminds me of the EEF in South African Parliament, who often wear brightly colored costumes.

    I wonder if it is also true in the rest of the West. This growing theatricality in politics. I would suppose so.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Congress is becoming more and more theatrical.
     
    Really? They've got a ways to go...



    https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/resources/graphic/xlarge/sumner_caning_xl.jpg
  5. @songbird
    Congress is becoming more and more theatrical.

    I wish I could find a history of the costumes and symbols that the democrats have worn, over the years at the State of the Union, and learn when they began the practice, but every time that I see it, it reminds me of the EEF in South African Parliament, who often wear brightly colored costumes.

    I wonder if it is also true in the rest of the West. This growing theatricality in politics. I would suppose so.

    Congress is becoming more and more theatrical.

    Really? They’ve got a ways to go…

    • Replies: @songbird
    Oh, I don't think they would come to physical blows easily.

    There are many reasons. More women. Lower testosterone. Probably much higher average age. Different racial groups (including Jews) - perilous to cross the line. And there would be cameras on them - and Republicans are pretty cowed through the media, and the Dems know it. Besides these days, when women vote, nobody tolerates a physical feud or a duel. I don't think they really have an interest in encouraging violence against each other in the chamber either - they are not so different from each other.

    It is hard to reach into the past to the Civil War, and its lead-up for our parallels. For instance, many people have speculated that America is too fractured to have a draft. And that many men are too weak and feminine to fight anyways. And a society with low fertility probably isn't one that will lurch towards war.

    But my point was that they are playing to the audience more and more. And I think that it shows the increasing divisions of the country.
  6. A big thank you to Nancy.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  7. Whoa, look at that juicy black/white difference. I look favorably upon anything which deepens the racial divide, so thanks Nancy, you’re awesome.

  8. “WOMAN IS THE N***** OF THE WORLD” – JOHN LENNON

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    Spoken like a model wife beater.

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ypa9b5/you-dont-have-to-imagine-john-lennon-beat-women-and-childrenits-just-a-fact
  9. @216
    Mannered Millenials and Zeds

    Men saw an HR lady

    Women were more accomodating

    Did not energize Dems as much as it irritated Republicans

    Blacks.

    Is this generational nonsense like some viewed Marxism, an attempt to divide society along artificial lines? Divide and conquer.

  10. “Ripping up paper? You Americans are like little babies!”

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    My perennial favorite:

    https://youtu.be/ahY7A0zDkeU

    The older member of the National Assembly in South Korea hits a perfect Tomoe Nage on a younger member. He also tries a Tai Otoshi next on another guy, but is less successful, because he doesn’t control the far side wrist (Hikite) of the opponent. The entry, footwork, and driving hand (Tsurite) are all very good though.
    , @neutral
    Still lame compared to this one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu8uqMEmyRE
    , @Audacious Epigone
    Sometimes I do, to be honest, wish the Republicans would fight for something!
  11. Heavily democrat “others” disapprove nearly as strongly as whites. They have little tolerance for childish misbehavior, I guess.

  12. @Reg Cæsar

    Congress is becoming more and more theatrical.
     
    Really? They've got a ways to go...



    https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/resources/graphic/xlarge/sumner_caning_xl.jpg

    Oh, I don’t think they would come to physical blows easily.

    There are many reasons. More women. Lower testosterone. Probably much higher average age. Different racial groups (including Jews) – perilous to cross the line. And there would be cameras on them – and Republicans are pretty cowed through the media, and the Dems know it. Besides these days, when women vote, nobody tolerates a physical feud or a duel. I don’t think they really have an interest in encouraging violence against each other in the chamber either – they are not so different from each other.

    It is hard to reach into the past to the Civil War, and its lead-up for our parallels. For instance, many people have speculated that America is too fractured to have a draft. And that many men are too weak and feminine to fight anyways. And a society with low fertility probably isn’t one that will lurch towards war.

    But my point was that they are playing to the audience more and more. And I think that it shows the increasing divisions of the country.

  13. Lowest black unemployment ever.

  14. @Nodwink
    "Ripping up paper? You Americans are like little babies!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UyRCNJeqYU

    My perennial favorite:

    The older member of the National Assembly in South Korea hits a perfect Tomoe Nage on a younger member. He also tries a Tai Otoshi next on another guy, but is less successful, because he doesn’t control the far side wrist (Hikite) of the opponent. The entry, footwork, and driving hand (Tsurite) are all very good though.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    The older member of the National Assembly in South Korea hits a perfect Tomoe Nage on a younger member. He also tries a Tai Otoshi next on another guy, but is less successful, because he doesn’t control the far side wrist (Hikite) of the opponent. The entry, footwork, and driving hand (Tsurite) are all very good though.

     

    Lough Out Loud!

    Why didn't he give that young puppy a Jimoe Thome for good measure!
  15. @Nodwink
    "Ripping up paper? You Americans are like little babies!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UyRCNJeqYU

    Still lame compared to this one.

    • Replies: @indocon
    Let me give you the background behind this brawl, it happened in the state assembly of UP state in 1997, India's most populated and backward state, thank of it as if West Virginia was the size of California. The state was ruled by the Congress party for the longest time with their dumbbell coalition (similar to what Democrats have now), high caste hindus + lowest caste hindus + Muslims (aka blacks of India political speaking). That coalition fractured in early 1990s, a government of party represented by middle castes (farming and artisan types) in alliance with a party of lowest castes was formed in 1995. As it always happens, the government began to fracture, the the lady leader of the lowest caste party was assaulted by a mob in her home allegedly by goons of the ruling party (although later it was found that the spies of upper castes instigated it....sound familiar). That was the background behind this brawl.
    , @Nodwink
    It was one of the milder ones, but a lot of these videos on YT are low-def or too long. I'm a fan of the cameo from the fat guy in jeans at 1:06 trying to do a WWF move on the other guys; would have preferred one of the Dems to try this on Trump, rather than Nancy's lame shit.
  16. @Twinkie
    My perennial favorite:

    https://youtu.be/ahY7A0zDkeU

    The older member of the National Assembly in South Korea hits a perfect Tomoe Nage on a younger member. He also tries a Tai Otoshi next on another guy, but is less successful, because he doesn’t control the far side wrist (Hikite) of the opponent. The entry, footwork, and driving hand (Tsurite) are all very good though.

    The older member of the National Assembly in South Korea hits a perfect Tomoe Nage on a younger member. He also tries a Tai Otoshi next on another guy, but is less successful, because he doesn’t control the far side wrist (Hikite) of the opponent. The entry, footwork, and driving hand (Tsurite) are all very good though.

    Lough Out Loud!

    Why didn’t he give that young puppy a Jimoe Thome for good measure!

  17. That black favorability number is just plain amazing, we will get to make Democrats as the “official” black party soon. Come think about if Trump loses and we get a serious recession, be a very good time to flush all this out in the open.

  18. @neutral
    Still lame compared to this one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu8uqMEmyRE

    Let me give you the background behind this brawl, it happened in the state assembly of UP state in 1997, India’s most populated and backward state, thank of it as if West Virginia was the size of California. The state was ruled by the Congress party for the longest time with their dumbbell coalition (similar to what Democrats have now), high caste hindus + lowest caste hindus + Muslims (aka blacks of India political speaking). That coalition fractured in early 1990s, a government of party represented by middle castes (farming and artisan types) in alliance with a party of lowest castes was formed in 1995. As it always happens, the government began to fracture, the the lady leader of the lowest caste party was assaulted by a mob in her home allegedly by goons of the ruling party (although later it was found that the spies of upper castes instigated it….sound familiar). That was the background behind this brawl.

    • Thanks: Audacious Epigone
  19. Alliterative AE.

    On topic, it is fascinating how much blacks and Democrats diverge from every other group in your graphic. Maybe Pelosi knows her constituency.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Alliterative AE.

    Heh, is it too much?
  20. @JohnPlywood
    "WOMAN IS THE N***** OF THE WORLD" - JOHN LENNON
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    @JohnPlywood
    Spoken like a model wife beater.
     
    He's beating his wife with plywood?

    Call the police. Better yet, her father or brother, if they're armed.


    Police arrest man after assault involving 2-by-4 in Old Town

    https://www.oregonlive.com/resizer/qWun95p0ZXI1YoUwBnEuypWp9xQ=/450x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-advancelocal.s3.amazonaws.com/public/IIKHYIMEAFCRHOW6SDSJO6RGH4.jpg

  21. Pelosi resides in the Pacific Heights neighborhood of San Francisco. Her 2016 financial disclosure report lists among her assets a combined home and vineyard in St. Helena, California, two commercial buildings in San Francisco, and a townhome in Loomis, California.

    Financial status

    The nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics (CRP) estimated in 2009 that Pelosi’s average net worth was US$58,436,537, ranking her 13th among 25 wealthiest members of Congress. In 2014, CRP reported Pelosi’s average net worth in 2014 was US$101,273,023 having ranked 8th out of 25 wealthiest members of Congress. …

    Roll Call said Pelosi’s earnings are connected to her husband’s heavy investments in stocks that include Apple, Disney, Comcast, and Facebook.

    Obviously, Pelosi is a very astute investor.

    Nancy Pelosi (Paul Pelosi, her husband) — she will soon be 80 y/o — in every sense a mediocre person, who has in recent years manifested clear signs of senility — has been (not worked) in politics her entire life, i.e. she’s never held a “real job”: never worked to create value, wealth; instead she has always lived off the coercive taxation of others, as well as influence peddling.

    More than anything, she is corrupt, and a walking advertisement for term limits, which are desperately needed, and should be instituted via a Constitutional Amendment — this would help diminish the importance of the state, its power and mandate, also politics in general — the idea of a career politician would have seemed very strange to the Founding Fathers.

    Dianne Feinstein will be 87 y/o in June — in 2018, at the age of 85, she was elected to (yet) another 6 year term — if she lives out her term (no one can seriously believe she does a lot of “work” at that age), she will be 91 y/o, and will have been in the Senate (doing what?) for 34 years (since 1992).

  22. @neutral
    Still lame compared to this one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu8uqMEmyRE

    It was one of the milder ones, but a lot of these videos on YT are low-def or too long. I’m a fan of the cameo from the fat guy in jeans at 1:06 trying to do a WWF move on the other guys; would have preferred one of the Dems to try this on Trump, rather than Nancy’s lame shit.

  23. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    Spoken like a model wife beater.

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ypa9b5/you-dont-have-to-imagine-john-lennon-beat-women-and-childrenits-just-a-fact


    Spoken like a model wife beater.

    He’s beating his wife with plywood?

    Call the police. Better yet, her father or brother, if they’re armed.

    Police arrest man after assault involving 2-by-4 in Old Town

  24. @Nodwink
    "Ripping up paper? You Americans are like little babies!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UyRCNJeqYU

    Sometimes I do, to be honest, wish the Republicans would fight for something!

  25. @res
    Alliterative AE.

    On topic, it is fascinating how much blacks and Democrats diverge from every other group in your graphic. Maybe Pelosi knows her constituency.

    Alliterative AE.

    Heh, is it too much?

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