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Basket of boomer rubes, anyone?

The knowledge advantage Republican voters enjoy over Democrat voters is likely nowhere greater than on the subject of geography. Results from the last Pew Research news IQ quiz that included a couple of relevant questions:


This is unsurprising. The average GOP voter is more male and more visuo-spatially oriented than the average Democrat voter, who tends to be more female and more verbally oriented.

A stunning lack of awareness from our esteemed elite continues:

The plot of the movie that grossed a billion dollars hinges on a powerful, privileged late night comedian mocking a powerless, dysfunctional, mentally-ill prole:

What do you risk when you punch down, punch down, and then punch down again? One hell of a comeuppance.

Joaquin Phoenix understands. He was on the receiving end before he did the delivering:

 
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  1. In terms of Joker I really didn’t like the film. I had friends and family rave about it, but when I finally saw it (once it came out online) I found it pretty stale. And that’s from both a purely artistic perspective and then later ideological. Of course Joaquin’s acting was great but the rest was just average. Speaking ideologically it’s even worse, inspiring some prole uprising thanks to not enough taxation to fund his counselling, family murder, evil rich guys who randomly beat him up instead of black youths who would also be poor. I just don’t see where the artistic of ideological merit supposedly comes from.

    I did like this piece that Sailer shared the other day though:
    http://www.overcomingbias.com/2020/01/parasite-versus-joker.html

    Speaking of angry men though, I happened to watch 12 Angry Men last night and it’s funny to see what a simple film with largely one room and a bunch of people talking can do. Modern movies really do suck. Are there any films in this century that match Lawrence of Arabia? Really doubt it.

    • Agree: iffen
    • Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Are there any films in this century that match Lawrence of Arabia?
     
    Hell or High Water was a notch or two below that, but, by modern standards, a great movie.

    Naturally, most people probably haven't heard of it.
    , @Joe Stalin
    "Are there any films in this century that match Lawrence of Arabia? Really doubt it."

    This 1975 John Milius movie is wonderful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGUtyWSwaN4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ep9A_-Bx1Y

    The 1939 "Four Feathers" is pretty cool.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiUq6Mz2-Os
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG1kHdnMSRU
    , @eah
    ... evil rich guys who randomly beat him up instead of black youths who would also be poor.

    I've seen this mentioned elsewhere and understand the reason/point being made -- but on those occasions, as here, it's not mentioned that the kids who stole his sign and beat him up earlier in the movie were non-white.

    I thought the movie 'worked' well (in the cinematic/theatrical sense), but felt troubled by it overall -- re whether it is Oscar worthy or not, I can say that if they gave Titanic the Best Picture award (it had great special effects, but was otherwise rather trite), then I can see Joker getting it as well -- Phoenix would be a good choice (to say the least) for Best Actor in any case.
  2. As with all these surveys the way the questions are worded makes a big difference. In this case, I should say the type of question too. Any of the ones asking people to identify a political figure from a picture* is likely to get more correct answers from big watchers of the TV infotainment. That’s not to say we don’t all have broadband now (remember when we didn’t!) and pics and videos aren’t ubiquitous on the internet too. The TV just shows these faces over and over again.

    I can beat 99% of Americans on geography questions, I’m sure, yet didn’t know who Kobe Bryant was until Sunday. I probably heard President Øb☭ma speak only a dozen times or so, over the years, and only in short segments.

    I do agree on the gist of this post, that D-voters are even more clueless than R-voters, due to that good old diversity being a majority of the D-party now.

    .

    * Picking out the N. Korean Mr. Ill (?) in a line-up would be challenge for anyone non-Oriental, BTW!

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Agree. I suspect a big part of the Dem/Repub divergence in that survey was a racial confound.

    Do you imagine Hank can find Guantanamo on a map? Or even find Georgia?

    https://youtu.be/cesSRfXqS1Q
  3. @Tusk
    In terms of Joker I really didn't like the film. I had friends and family rave about it, but when I finally saw it (once it came out online) I found it pretty stale. And that's from both a purely artistic perspective and then later ideological. Of course Joaquin's acting was great but the rest was just average. Speaking ideologically it's even worse, inspiring some prole uprising thanks to not enough taxation to fund his counselling, family murder, evil rich guys who randomly beat him up instead of black youths who would also be poor. I just don't see where the artistic of ideological merit supposedly comes from.

    I did like this piece that Sailer shared the other day though:
    http://www.overcomingbias.com/2020/01/parasite-versus-joker.html

    Speaking of angry men though, I happened to watch 12 Angry Men last night and it's funny to see what a simple film with largely one room and a bunch of people talking can do. Modern movies really do suck. Are there any films in this century that match Lawrence of Arabia? Really doubt it.

    Are there any films in this century that match Lawrence of Arabia?

    Hell or High Water was a notch or two below that, but, by modern standards, a great movie.

    Naturally, most people probably haven’t heard of it.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    Hell or High Water
     
    My kind of movie!
    , @Tusk
    Thank John, I actually have this one downloaded but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Perhaps tonight or this weekend I'll find the time.
    , @Servant of Gla'aki

    Hell or High Water was a notch or two below that, but, by modern standards, a great movie.
     
    I took my wife to see that the first week it was out (and she loved it, as did I).

    But most people have no idea what I'm talking about, when I mention it.
    , @Twodees Partain
    "Hell or High Water" was top flight for any era of American films, IMO. If what is desired is false historical drama, maybe "Lawrence of Arabia" could be thought of as so-so. "Play Dirty" was a much better film, though of a different war, than Lawrence, and I view Lawrence as a few notches below "Play Dirty" in that Lawrence pretended to be historically accurate.

    Most people probably haven't heard of "Play Dirty", either.
  4. The talking assholes on CNN and MSNBC are childish and vacuous.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    I can't help but ask, Realist: Did you expect anything other than that? The days of Press the Meat with erudite dudes talking calmly, Senator Joe McCarthy coming on this show for the 5th time (1951) with a pistol in his lap, or one Miss May Craig of Maine interviewing Fidel Castro in 1959. (I shit you not.). What a country it was back then!
  5. On this subject, if Trump is re-elected, look for a handmaid of the elite, for example, a MSM media figure, to attempt the assassination of Trump.

  6. The controllers of CNN and Warner Media, and all the other employees, must be financially liquidated and then they must be forcibly expelled from the USA. They must not be allowed to ever visit or enter any other European Christian nation ever again. Let them go to China — eat all the BAT SOUP you want, you arrogant propaganda whore bastards — or Israel or sub-Saharan Africa. There is no alternative.

    The corporate media has declared total war on White Core America and White Core America must observe the turnabout is fair play rule of the English and declare total war on the corporate media.

    Viacom/CBS and Comcast/NBC and Disney/ABC and the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal and all the internet corporations and the radio and print media outlets must be financially liquidated and then the persons who control such entities must be expelled from the USA and disallowed from ever entering or visiting any other European Christian nation.

    Remember, the money-grubbing nation wrecking scum that controls the corporate propaganda outlets are there to protect the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire and to protect the two-party tyranny the ruling class uses to attack and destroy the historic American nation.

    The vile scum in the Republican Party — including fat ass baby boomer globalizer Trump — have crawled into bed with the JEW/WASP ruling class scum who control the corporate media and Treasonous Trump relies on the corporate media to protect him while Trump refuses to deport the upwards of 30 million illegal alien invaders in the USA and Trump floods mass legal immigration into the USA “in the largest numbers ever.”

    Here is a writer named Joan Williams that warned the ruling class scum in the Democrat Party about making fun of Whites Without College Degrees(WWCDs) in 2017:

    This first concerns social honor. Too often in otherwise polite society, elites (progressives emphatically included) unselfconsciously belittle working-class whites. We hear talk of “trailer trash” in “flyover states” afflicted by “plumber’s butt” — open class insults that pass for wit. This condescension affects political campaigns, as in Hillary Clinton’s comment about “deplorables” and Barack Obama’s about people who “cling to guns or religion.”

    “My biggest boneheaded move,” Mr. Obama mused.

    He was right. Democrats should stop insulting people. The high cost of doing so is dramatized by “I’m deplorable” T-shirts and Inaugural DeploraBalls. There’s no need to accept racism, sexism or homophobia from working-class whites or anyone else. Just live up to our progressive ideals by acknowledging social disadvantage more consistently. If class-based insults were as politically incorrect as racial or homophobic slurs, Rush Limbaugh’s rants against P.C. elites might hold less appeal. Mr. Limbaugh, like Mr. Trump, feeds off class resentment. Let’s stop making their jobs easier.

    That’s the first step. The second is for Democrats to advocate an agenda attractive to low-income and working-class Americans of all races: creating good jobs for high school graduates. The college-for-all experiment did not work. Two-thirds of Americans are not college graduates. We need to continue to make college more accessible, but we also need to improve the economic prospects of Americans without college degrees.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/27/opinion/sunday/the-dumb-politics-of-elite-condescension.html?smid=tw-share

  7. Out Of Touch Ruling Class Republican Party Politician Whores Push To Flood More Foreigners Into The USA

    The Republican Party is evil and immoral and it must be destroyed.

    Trump is evil and immoral and Trump refuses to deport the upwards of 30 million illegal alien invaders in the USA.

    Trump is evil and immoral and Trump is flooding the USA with mass legal immigration “in the largest numbers ever.”

    Trump has crawled on his fat baby boomer belly across the floor and into bed with the rancid politician whores in the Republican Party CHEAP LABOR FACTION. The Republican Party Cheap Labor Faction wants to flood the USA with tens of millions of foreigners — some of those foreigners will have BAT SOUP FEVER — and Trump wants to continue to allow 30 million illegal alien invaders to stay permanently in the USA.

    John Binder in Breitbart:

    123 Republicans in the Senate and House are pleading with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Chad Wolf to bring more foreign workers to the United States to compete against working-class Americans for jobs.

    In a letter to Wolf, 26 Republican Senators and 97 Republican House members joined 66 Senate and House Democrats in demanding DHS allow businesses to bring an additional roughly 30,000 foreign workers on the H-2B visa program to take nonagricultural blue-collar U.S. jobs.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/28/the-list-123-republicans-foreign-workers/

    The OUT-OF-TOUCH baby boomer fat ass named Trump is flooding every damn foreigner he can grab into the USA. Some Chinese guy is in the middle of sweating out BAT SOUP FEVER and Trump is grabbing him and pulling him into the USA because Trump is flooding every foreigner he can grab into the USA.

    Trump and the Republican Party are an enemy of the American people.

    Trump is a rancid baby boomer politician whore for the globalizer scum in the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    Trump and the Republican Party push mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration.

    Mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration increases housing costs, lowers wages, increases income inequality, swamps schools, overwhelms hospitals, harms the environment and brings multicultural mayhem to the United States.

    Trump Is A Fat Whore For Shelly Adelson And The Republican Party Cheap Labor Faction.

  8. It would be interesting to see sex and race crosstabs with political parties to see how much this is just the different demographic representation you mention. I think the high/low coalition of the Democrats can make survey results hard to interpret.

    I did not see a direct link to the text article associated with this graphic. So here it is. Worth noting explicitly that this is from 4/28/15.
    https://www.people-press.org/2015/04/28/what-the-public-knows-in-pictures-words-maps-and-graphs/

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    It would be interesting to see sex and race crosstabs with political parties to see how much this is just the different demographic representation you mention. I think the high/low coalition of the Democrats can make survey results hard to interpret.
     
    Agreed.
  9. That’s your future, white man. Some random Brahmin who moved here 10 years ago laughing right in your face. And what are you gonna do about it?

    Whites are the new untouchable caste.

    • Replies: @Talha
    But don't worry...a voice of hope and purpose cries out from the abyss:
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPdXSIJW4AEyfyd.jpg

    Peace.
    , @Twinkie
    How many “Brahmin” senators do you see in the US Senate? They are not our new overlords (yet) - they are allies of one side in a white peoples* civil war.

    *Plural intended.

    , @Ash Williams
    Your scenario assumes things that can't continue, will.
  10. The first film in which I took notice of Mr Pheonix was a movie called “Buffalo Soldier”. It was a frustrating movie to watch because the bad guy in this case played by Mr. Pheonix, gets away with it and not only gets away, but we are left with a sense that his enterprise was about to expand as he buffalos his way into the military black market and the military itself. And in nearly everything he has done, there is a sense of wrongness and bent disposition and he does it very, very, very well.

    And it’s sad because for me it created a aversion to watching his films. So upon getting my copy of “Joker”, it sat around until last week, I think. As expected a seedy dystopian veneer. However, the performance by Mr. Pheonix not as anti-hero or villain, but as an everyman, just struggling to get through the day by day. And while the extreme form of a very real condition was in play, you absolutely found the character not only deeply sympathetic, but empathetic in nearly every way. A man constantly pestered by events and people who don’t have his humaness. The assaults on him were as assaults on the viewer. You want him to fight back and yet his attempts at self defense even to explain why and x and x occur are so crushing that when he actually does a careless act, you want him to lie and I caught myself saying as much outloud — laugh — feeling guilt – but good grief life needs to get this man a break.

    And in my view that break should have come at the climax when he is on TV , for me what was needed was level of success or some level of relief to his stead. Maybe that night he was funny in accordance with his breakthrough – some level of insightful genius turns his humor funny as he explains then — the turn as to why he killed those three “priviliged jerks”. They were not only rube inconsiderate bullies, they were assaulting him to threat of life and killing them was perfectly justified. And justified, not only to his stead but the other person on the train they were threatening — possible assault until he intervened on that persons behalf.

    But I agree that Mr. Pheonix’s performance was absolutely captivating — as you easily identified with him and even thoroughly appreciated that dance routine — it was a stunning performance. Not because of the dance, but because of the triumph — a complete abandonment defence against enemies seen and unseen those without and those within. I keep thinking back to the first time I said the “f” word, at least I think it was the first time. Jump School Fort Benning, Georgia. I was about to fail for of all things an inability to do plfs. One of the instructors came up to me and explained in no uncertain terms that I was too tight and this was my last opportunity — he instructed me to “Sometimes, you just have to say f it” (said in a very sincere and undemanding tone – encouraging) And he went after me until I said it – plfs would not be an issue again. That freedom experienced as wrong the language — its hard to imagine, but I certainly got it in that performance by Mr. Pheonix.

    That the film failed to capitalize on it to demonstrate the juxtaposition of justice, self righteousness and genius is a mistake, or missed opportunity by the writers and the director.

    Far less subtle than the Player by the late great M. Robert Altman, but the message is clear nonetheless tolerance for hypocrisy will produce unwanted consequence — well, maybe.

    I didn’t hear Mr. Pheonix’s comments at the Golden Globe ceremony, but he and Mr. Pitt seemed to be saying the entertainment community could use a gentler kinder disposition interesting that the supposed “angry white men” (laugh) should be making that case, no doubt well put.

    Some interesting films this year am enjoyable fair. Still need to see 1917 and some others.
    —————————————

    To the sentiment about Lawrence of Arabia – no doubt a great film.

  11. @Tusk
    In terms of Joker I really didn't like the film. I had friends and family rave about it, but when I finally saw it (once it came out online) I found it pretty stale. And that's from both a purely artistic perspective and then later ideological. Of course Joaquin's acting was great but the rest was just average. Speaking ideologically it's even worse, inspiring some prole uprising thanks to not enough taxation to fund his counselling, family murder, evil rich guys who randomly beat him up instead of black youths who would also be poor. I just don't see where the artistic of ideological merit supposedly comes from.

    I did like this piece that Sailer shared the other day though:
    http://www.overcomingbias.com/2020/01/parasite-versus-joker.html

    Speaking of angry men though, I happened to watch 12 Angry Men last night and it's funny to see what a simple film with largely one room and a bunch of people talking can do. Modern movies really do suck. Are there any films in this century that match Lawrence of Arabia? Really doubt it.

    “Are there any films in this century that match Lawrence of Arabia? Really doubt it.”

    This 1975 John Milius movie is wonderful.

    The 1939 “Four Feathers” is pretty cool.

    • Replies: @John Gruskos
    Imagine thinking The Wind and The Lion is quality entertainment.

    AE attracts the absolute dregs.
  12. Laugh. I did not come out of any of these films thinking about white male rage.

    The last twenty plus years or so, it’s been white women raging, but then white women being a rage is nothing new.

    Here’s an interesting site: I didn’t not attend the commentary of the woman who posted the images or her skin color – irrelevant for this issue.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/tracyclayton/angry-white-women

    This is an angry woman — love Rosamund Pike but in this film she one of the angriest women in film, including every character in every

    “I Spit On your Grave” movie and sequel ever made.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GObRvQexOmI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj-yF7O92Q8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AhO0bQpvRw
  13. @Realist
    The talking assholes on CNN and MSNBC are childish and vacuous.

    I can’t help but ask, Realist: Did you expect anything other than that? The days of Press the Meat with erudite dudes talking calmly, Senator Joe McCarthy coming on this show for the 5th time (1951) with a pistol in his lap, or one Miss May Craig of Maine interviewing Fidel Castro in 1959. (I shit you not.). What a country it was back then!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    oops, there was no object in that 3rd-to-last sentence.

    S/B: "... are OVER."
  14. @EliteCommInc.
    Laugh. I did not come out of any of these films thinking about white male rage.

    The last twenty plus years or so, it's been white women raging, but then white women being a rage is nothing new.


    Here's an interesting site: I didn't not attend the commentary of the woman who posted the images or her skin color - irrelevant for this issue.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/tracyclayton/angry-white-women


    https://i0.wp.com/weird-sister.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/i-am-gonna-kill-bill.gif


    This is an angry woman -- love Rosamund Pike but in this film she one of the angriest women in film, including every character in every

    "I Spit On your Grave" movie and sequel ever made.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaoQNDIf6pY

  15. @Achmed E. Newman
    I can't help but ask, Realist: Did you expect anything other than that? The days of Press the Meat with erudite dudes talking calmly, Senator Joe McCarthy coming on this show for the 5th time (1951) with a pistol in his lap, or one Miss May Craig of Maine interviewing Fidel Castro in 1959. (I shit you not.). What a country it was back then!

    oops, there was no object in that 3rd-to-last sentence.

    S/B: “… are OVER.”

  16. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    That's your future, white man. Some random Brahmin who moved here 10 years ago laughing right in your face. And what are you gonna do about it?

    Whites are the new untouchable caste.

    But don’t worry…a voice of hope and purpose cries out from the abyss:

    Peace.

    • LOL: Twinkie
  17. Obviously if a national TV show’s host or guests did their best stereotypical impression of the least educated Democratic voters, they’d be fired before the night was out.

    I’ve often thought that our elites champion who they do precisely because they are so out of touch. People like these guys don’t actually know any low income/low education people intimately, along with their convictions, personal habits, and the decisions they make. If they did, they’be horrified. Rather, they look at them they way they look at exotic animals on TV – they are noble beasts that need to be preserved, protected, and cared for, but for heaven’s sake keep them away from us.

    I’ve mentioned it before, but a useful red-pill experience is having to manage a decent-sized affordable housing complex – if we could sentence Don Lemon and his guests (better yet, all of Congress) to a year of running one of those in any large city in America, it would be a mind shattering experience for all of them.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  18. @Tusk
    In terms of Joker I really didn't like the film. I had friends and family rave about it, but when I finally saw it (once it came out online) I found it pretty stale. And that's from both a purely artistic perspective and then later ideological. Of course Joaquin's acting was great but the rest was just average. Speaking ideologically it's even worse, inspiring some prole uprising thanks to not enough taxation to fund his counselling, family murder, evil rich guys who randomly beat him up instead of black youths who would also be poor. I just don't see where the artistic of ideological merit supposedly comes from.

    I did like this piece that Sailer shared the other day though:
    http://www.overcomingbias.com/2020/01/parasite-versus-joker.html

    Speaking of angry men though, I happened to watch 12 Angry Men last night and it's funny to see what a simple film with largely one room and a bunch of people talking can do. Modern movies really do suck. Are there any films in this century that match Lawrence of Arabia? Really doubt it.

    … evil rich guys who randomly beat him up instead of black youths who would also be poor.

    I’ve seen this mentioned elsewhere and understand the reason/point being made — but on those occasions, as here, it’s not mentioned that the kids who stole his sign and beat him up earlier in the movie were non-white.

    I thought the movie ‘worked’ well (in the cinematic/theatrical sense), but felt troubled by it overall — re whether it is Oscar worthy or not, I can say that if they gave Titanic the Best Picture award (it had great special effects, but was otherwise rather trite), then I can see Joker getting it as well — Phoenix would be a good choice (to say the least) for Best Actor in any case.

  19. I find Devon Stack’s reviews to be worth watching:

  20. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Are there any films in this century that match Lawrence of Arabia?
     
    Hell or High Water was a notch or two below that, but, by modern standards, a great movie.

    Naturally, most people probably haven't heard of it.

    Hell or High Water

    My kind of movie!

  21. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    That's your future, white man. Some random Brahmin who moved here 10 years ago laughing right in your face. And what are you gonna do about it?

    Whites are the new untouchable caste.

    How many “Brahmin” senators do you see in the US Senate? They are not our new overlords (yet) – they are allies of one side in a white peoples* civil war.

    *Plural intended.

  22. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Are there any films in this century that match Lawrence of Arabia?
     
    Hell or High Water was a notch or two below that, but, by modern standards, a great movie.

    Naturally, most people probably haven't heard of it.

    Thank John, I actually have this one downloaded but I haven’t gotten around to it yet. Perhaps tonight or this weekend I’ll find the time.

  23. ‘The Joker’ plotline was preceded by ‘Falling Down’, with Michael Douglas

    When White Male Rage happens, it is usually justified.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational, @Talha
    Interestingly, Michael Douglas’ character is disgusted by and kills the white supremacist and steals his rocket launcher.

    It was a great movie. Robert Duvall, brilliant as usual.

    Peace.
  24. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    That's your future, white man. Some random Brahmin who moved here 10 years ago laughing right in your face. And what are you gonna do about it?

    Whites are the new untouchable caste.

    Your scenario assumes things that can’t continue, will.

  25. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Are there any films in this century that match Lawrence of Arabia?
     
    Hell or High Water was a notch or two below that, but, by modern standards, a great movie.

    Naturally, most people probably haven't heard of it.

    Hell or High Water was a notch or two below that, but, by modern standards, a great movie.

    I took my wife to see that the first week it was out (and she loved it, as did I).

    But most people have no idea what I’m talking about, when I mention it.

  26. @res
    It would be interesting to see sex and race crosstabs with political parties to see how much this is just the different demographic representation you mention. I think the high/low coalition of the Democrats can make survey results hard to interpret.

    I did not see a direct link to the text article associated with this graphic. So here it is. Worth noting explicitly that this is from 4/28/15.
    https://www.people-press.org/2015/04/28/what-the-public-knows-in-pictures-words-maps-and-graphs/

    It would be interesting to see sex and race crosstabs with political parties to see how much this is just the different demographic representation you mention. I think the high/low coalition of the Democrats can make survey results hard to interpret.

    Agreed.

  27. @Tim from Nashua
    'The Joker' plotline was preceded by 'Falling Down', with Michael Douglas

    When White Male Rage happens, it is usually justified.
  28. @Tim from Nashua
    'The Joker' plotline was preceded by 'Falling Down', with Michael Douglas

    When White Male Rage happens, it is usually justified.

    Interestingly, Michael Douglas’ character is disgusted by and kills the white supremacist and steals his rocket launcher.

    It was a great movie. Robert Duvall, brilliant as usual.

    Peace.

  29. @Joe Stalin
    "Are there any films in this century that match Lawrence of Arabia? Really doubt it."

    This 1975 John Milius movie is wonderful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGUtyWSwaN4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ep9A_-Bx1Y

    The 1939 "Four Feathers" is pretty cool.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiUq6Mz2-Os
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG1kHdnMSRU

    Imagine thinking The Wind and The Lion is quality entertainment.

    AE attracts the absolute dregs.

    • Troll: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @iffen
    AE attracts the absolute dregs.

    Et tu, Gruskos?
  30. “Hell or High Water was a notch or two below that, but, by modern standards, a great movie.”

    A skillfully, well told story with great performances from the leads and supporting cast with a standout performance by Mr. Ben Foster a highly underrated (may be the wrong word) actor. It was nice to see Mr. Christopher Pine’s understated presence.

    very well told tale.

  31. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Are there any films in this century that match Lawrence of Arabia?
     
    Hell or High Water was a notch or two below that, but, by modern standards, a great movie.

    Naturally, most people probably haven't heard of it.

    “Hell or High Water” was top flight for any era of American films, IMO. If what is desired is false historical drama, maybe “Lawrence of Arabia” could be thought of as so-so. “Play Dirty” was a much better film, though of a different war, than Lawrence, and I view Lawrence as a few notches below “Play Dirty” in that Lawrence pretended to be historically accurate.

    Most people probably haven’t heard of “Play Dirty”, either.

  32. “Joe Stalin”

    I’ll see your Ms45 etal. and raise you,

  33. @John Gruskos
    Imagine thinking The Wind and The Lion is quality entertainment.

    AE attracts the absolute dregs.

    AE attracts the absolute dregs.

    Et tu, Gruskos?

  34. @Achmed E. Newman
    As with all these surveys the way the questions are worded makes a big difference. In this case, I should say the type of question too. Any of the ones asking people to identify a political figure from a picture* is likely to get more correct answers from big watchers of the TV infotainment. That's not to say we don't all have broadband now (remember when we didn't!) and pics and videos aren't ubiquitous on the internet too. The TV just shows these faces over and over again.

    I can beat 99% of Americans on geography questions, I'm sure, yet didn't know who Kobe Bryant was until Sunday. I probably heard President Øb☭ma speak only a dozen times or so, over the years, and only in short segments.

    I do agree on the gist of this post, that D-voters are even more clueless than R-voters, due to that good old diversity being a majority of the D-party now.

    .

    * Picking out the N. Korean Mr. Ill (?) in a line-up would be challenge for anyone non-Oriental, BTW!

    Agree. I suspect a big part of the Dem/Repub divergence in that survey was a racial confound.

    Do you imagine Hank can find Guantanamo on a map? Or even find Georgia?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    I remember this, A.M. That general shouldn't have been such a suck-up (but I guess that's just "who they are"). I could not have helped but call the guy a retard, at the very least.
  35. @Almost Missouri
    Agree. I suspect a big part of the Dem/Repub divergence in that survey was a racial confound.

    Do you imagine Hank can find Guantanamo on a map? Or even find Georgia?

    https://youtu.be/cesSRfXqS1Q

    I remember this, A.M. That general shouldn’t have been such a suck-up (but I guess that’s just “who they are”). I could not have helped but call the guy a retard, at the very least.

  36. Note:

    The above film also happens to contain one of the most graphic scenes in main stream media regarding intimate contact. And when considering material regarding disturbing images that might influence youth understanding of relationships and intimacy — always makes my top five.

    And yet has no X rating.

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