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One curious aspect of hate crime, which we are told is on the rise in Trump’s America, is how it is predominantly a blue state phenomenon. The inverse correlation between Trump’s share of the vote and the rate of reported hate crime incidents is .60.

That strikingly robust relationship is buoyed by the District of Columbia, the most hate-filled place in the country by far. DC extended it’s lead in hate between 2016 and 2017. While the total number of reported incidents increased 17% during Trump’s first year in office, the number of reported incidents in the capital increased a staggering 68%!

Even when DC is removed from the calculation, though, an inverse correlation of .28 remains:

State Hate per 100,000 people
1) Mississippi 0.15
2) Nevada 0.17
3) Arkansas 0.25
4) Georgia 0.30
5) Alabama 0.31
6) Iowa 0.35
7) Alaska 0.54
8) Pennsylvania 0.61
9) Illinois 0.67
10) Texas 0.68
11) Louisiana 0.69
12) Florida 0.71
13) Wyoming 0.72
14) Maryland 0.79
15) Wisconsin 0.80
16) Oklahoma 0.94
17) New Hampshire 1.00
18) Rhode Island 1.04
19) New Mexico 1.25
20) Montana 1.43
21) North Carolina 1.62
22) Missouri 1.72
23) South Carolina 1.74
24) Colorado 1.90
25) West Virginia 1.95
26) North Dakota 1.99
27) Tennessee 2.03
28) South Dakota 2.13
29) Virginia 2.28
30) Maine 2.40
31) Indiana 2.40
32) Nebraska 2.41
33) Utah 2.55
34) Minnesota 2.65
35) California 2.77
36) New York 2.80
37) Kansas 2.86
38) Delaware 3.01
39) Connecticut 3.09
40) Idaho 3.12
41) Oregon 3.74
42) Arizona 3.91
43) Ohio 3.92
44) Michigan 4.59
45) Vermont 5.45
46) New Jersey 5.50
47) Massachusetts 6.37
48) Washington 6.90
49) Kentucky 8.51
50) District of Columbia 27.81

The anticipated retort that blue state hate is higher on account of MAGA men lashing out in places where they feel numerically besieged is hard to square with the significant overrepresentation of blacks among hate crime offenders. Hate crime participation rates relative to population representation by race, with anything over 100% indicating disproportionately high hate crime perpetration and anything under 100% indicating disproportionately low hate crime perpetration:

Hispanic or non-Hispanic is broken out separately from race, so the figure for “whites” includes many Hispanics, inflating the apparent non-Hispanic white figure given that Hispanics, when broken out separately, or more hate crime-inclined than non-Hispanics are.

Parenthetically, I dug into the uselessness of hate crime reporting several years ago in greater detail. Little has changed in the intervening decade.

 
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  1. It’s like all other crime – when you break it out by race and ethnicity you’ll find that 90% the crimes are committed by blacks and Hispanics.

  2. Your connection to this country, while being a legal one, is also an emotionally one. If you can distance yourself from the thing,you can laugh.
    I say, the longer we continue down the diversity path, the bigger the explosion is going to be.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    The plane is coming down. There is still time for a soft landing but eventually there will be no other option than to crash into the side of a mountain.
  3. “Parenthetically, I dug into the uselessness of hate crime reporting several years ago in greater detail. Little has changed in the intervening decade.”

    With Idaho at 4o (supposedly worse than both Cali and New York), I would say the reporting is worse than useless, it’s downright dangerous.

  4. There is hate. There is crime. There is no such thing as hate crime.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @mark green
    Hi WorkingClass. There is hate (an emotion). There is crime (a tangible deed that is outlawed). You are correct to note that they are two very distinct and separate things.

    But they have been cleverly conjoined so that thought can be criminalized and 'badthink' can be prosecuted with elevated levels of punishment.

    , @Twinkie

    There is hate. There is crime. There is no such thing as hate crime.
     
    Agreed. Tangible expression of hatred as a motive in crime should be factored into sentencing, but should not form a separate criminal category. It is, in fact, a legal monstrosity as it leads to de facto double jeopardy in some cases.
    , @Tyrion 2
    Agreed. Saying there is "hate" rape is saying there is something that is not "hate" rape. As if one would every truly rape someone and be ambivalent to them without being a sociopath.
  5. The “hate crime” classification by design was meant to target white perpetrators. That it seems to instead document the extreme inverse of the intended results must be a shock at some level to the original creators of such an abominable concept.

    The second biggest problem with it is that even if each state defines “hate crime” identically, it is impossible to apply the classification objectively by any means. If I am remembering correctly, the perpetrators of the Newson/Christian murders were not charged with hate crimes, for example. The delayed white kid that was kidnapped and tortured by a group of blacks a couple years ago were not charged with hate crimes. But some middle aged white lady, in a moment of frustration, tells an ignorant hijab wearing muslim broad shouting into her cell phone in Arabic at the grocery store to “go back to Iraq,” then it’s a hate crime and the white broad deserves to be publicly humiliated and fined 1000’s of dollars.

    Thirdly, and much to Ron Unz’s continuing annoyance, authorities love hiding “Hispanic” crime in the white numbers. All it takes to validate this fact is to spend a few minutes viewing the mug shots and accompanying racial descriptions of any county corrections website whose county hosts a large municipal area.

    Anyway, so while I think the gist of the charts is correct, I’m not sure any sort of exact data will ever be known, because the entire concept of “hate crimes” is a fraudulent, unconstitutional travesty to begin with.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational, anarchyst, 216
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I’m not sure any sort of exact data will ever be known, because the entire concept of “hate crimes” is a fraudulent, unconstitutional travesty to begin with.
     
    Fuckin'-A!
    , @Audacious Epigone
    Right. It's absurdly arbitrary. Pointing out that it is, empirically, primarily a blue state problem is just another fun way to highlight its lack of validity.
    , @Twinkie

    Thirdly, and much to Ron Unz’s continuing annoyance, authorities love hiding “Hispanic” crime in the white numbers. All it takes to validate this fact is to spend a few minutes viewing the mug shots and accompanying racial descriptions of any county corrections website whose county hosts a large municipal area.
     
    In fairness to Mr. Unz’s argument, his numbers are age-normed and Hispanics are younger than whites. I suspect that once age-normed Hispanic crime rate is probably about 1.5x the White rate. So they cluster more toward whites than blacks in the United States, who are the undisputed champions in crime.

    Of course, that raises a number of related questions which he does not address in detail or give satisfactory answers such as:

    1. What account for the extreme rates of violent crime in Latin America,
    2. Why American-born Mexicans are incarcerated at something like 7x rate of foreign-born Mexicans (all foreign-born in America have lower incarceration rates than their native counterparts, including whites and Asians, but the multiple is particularly pronounced with Hispanics),
    3. Why are Hispanics so highly represented in sex crimes, and
    4. Even if not nearly as bad as blacks, why import people who are still more violent than whites and become generationally mired in poverty and low education attainment?
  6. 1) What WorkingClass said!

    2) I have never in my life read a story of a black or hispanic person being convicted of a “hate-crime” – maybe they’ve been accused by white people that are not part of the legal system – say the Knoxville Horror case, but that’s all.

    3) The FBI needs to stick to kidnapping and downsize by about 90% since there aren’t that many kidnappings.

    4)

    That strikingly robust relationship is buoyed by the District of Columbia, the most hate-filled place in the country by far.

    I wonder if that’s any relation to the fact that Washington, FS* is the most HATED place in the country by far.

    5) GO MISSISSIPPI! At least they are number 1 in something, rather than dead last – it’s hard to get out of the bottom 5 when dragged down by a certain 30-odd % subset of the population.

    .

    * Federal Shithole (don’t worry, your mail will still get there.)

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Mississippi's refusal to play the game, reporting a single incident for all of 2017, is admirable.
  7. @MikeatMikedotMike
    The "hate crime" classification by design was meant to target white perpetrators. That it seems to instead document the extreme inverse of the intended results must be a shock at some level to the original creators of such an abominable concept.

    The second biggest problem with it is that even if each state defines "hate crime" identically, it is impossible to apply the classification objectively by any means. If I am remembering correctly, the perpetrators of the Newson/Christian murders were not charged with hate crimes, for example. The delayed white kid that was kidnapped and tortured by a group of blacks a couple years ago were not charged with hate crimes. But some middle aged white lady, in a moment of frustration, tells an ignorant hijab wearing muslim broad shouting into her cell phone in Arabic at the grocery store to "go back to Iraq," then it's a hate crime and the white broad deserves to be publicly humiliated and fined 1000's of dollars.

    Thirdly, and much to Ron Unz's continuing annoyance, authorities love hiding "Hispanic" crime in the white numbers. All it takes to validate this fact is to spend a few minutes viewing the mug shots and accompanying racial descriptions of any county corrections website whose county hosts a large municipal area.

    Anyway, so while I think the gist of the charts is correct, I'm not sure any sort of exact data will ever be known, because the entire concept of "hate crimes" is a fraudulent, unconstitutional travesty to begin with.

    I’m not sure any sort of exact data will ever be known, because the entire concept of “hate crimes” is a fraudulent, unconstitutional travesty to begin with.

    Fuckin’-A!

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    Data dependency has got to go dodo to win elections.

    Data should be for voter identification and outreach. Data should never be used to try to persuade or win over voters.

    Counter-Attack!

    They are doing this to attack White Core America -- if elected we will do this to them!

    Must win voters on a gut level and a heart level. Appeals to reason and data are impediments to electoral victory.

    Tweet from 2015:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/655420724530794496
  8. Parenthetically, I dug into the uselessness of hate crime reporting several years ago in greater detail. Little has changed in the intervening decade.

    Anti-White hate animates the Democrat Party and the globalized plutocracy.

    There needs to be a candidate running against Trump in the 2020 GOP presidential primary that defends and advances the interests of White Core Americans.

    Trump has done nothing to point out all the HATE HOAX nonsense that the corporate propaganda apparatus has been pushing for decades.

    Has Trump pointed out the ethnicity and ancestry of the key corporate propaganda figures in the USA? No!

    Has Trump pointed out that NBC/COMCAST and ABC/Disney and CBS/Viacom and CNN and the New York Times are all controlled by Jews? No!

    Trump is a treasonous puppet whore for the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    Tweets from 2014 and 2015:

  9. @Achmed E. Newman

    I’m not sure any sort of exact data will ever be known, because the entire concept of “hate crimes” is a fraudulent, unconstitutional travesty to begin with.
     
    Fuckin'-A!

    Data dependency has got to go dodo to win elections.

    Data should be for voter identification and outreach. Data should never be used to try to persuade or win over voters.

    Counter-Attack!

    They are doing this to attack White Core America — if elected we will do this to them!

    Must win voters on a gut level and a heart level. Appeals to reason and data are impediments to electoral victory.

    Tweet from 2015:

  10. Trumpy talking about the ruling class is a funny one!

    Trumpy is a puppet whore for the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

  11. Trump and the GOP and Conservatism, Inc. Tell White Core America To Go To Hell!

    White Core America Will Tell Trump and the GOP and Conservatism, Inc. To Go To Hell!

    • Replies: @216
    That's an irritating narrative, and it smacks of whining.

    The GOP is not likely to gain any votes by declaring itself "pro-white". The Charlottesville aftermath demonstrates it. The public, guided by the leftist media and ADL/SPLC, does not draw any distiction between moderate identitarians and freaks that fulfill every Hollyweird stereotype.

    The left has full use of the Tribal Gun, witness the Far-Left Five (any suggestions for what to call Ocasio-Cortez, Pressley, Tlaib, Omar, Haaland) calling out any non-white that supports Trump as a token.

    White moderates clubbed the GOP in '18, and no one seems to have grasped that in the Dissident movements. There is no reservoir of "white non-college males" that can be triggered by explicit white identity politics. Perhaps there are some non-white men that might be moved by a "pro-male" politics.

    If we go by the data from the previous post, non-white Trump supporters are actually in need of safe spaces. Criticizing them is not productive, because we fundamentally need shields, and far more of them, in the present environment.
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    Like the Z Blog points out, CPAC is little more than an opportunity for housebroken conservatives to takes selfies with the one or two black attendees.
  12. @Charles Pewitt
    Trump and the GOP and Conservatism, Inc. Tell White Core America To Go To Hell!

    White Core America Will Tell Trump and the GOP and Conservatism, Inc. To Go To Hell!

    https://twitter.com/westland_will/status/1102099235791466496

    That’s an irritating narrative, and it smacks of whining.

    The GOP is not likely to gain any votes by declaring itself “pro-white”. The Charlottesville aftermath demonstrates it. The public, guided by the leftist media and ADL/SPLC, does not draw any distiction between moderate identitarians and freaks that fulfill every Hollyweird stereotype.

    The left has full use of the Tribal Gun, witness the Far-Left Five (any suggestions for what to call Ocasio-Cortez, Pressley, Tlaib, Omar, Haaland) calling out any non-white that supports Trump as a token.

    White moderates clubbed the GOP in ’18, and no one seems to have grasped that in the Dissident movements. There is no reservoir of “white non-college males” that can be triggered by explicit white identity politics. Perhaps there are some non-white men that might be moved by a “pro-male” politics.

    If we go by the data from the previous post, non-white Trump supporters are actually in need of safe spaces. Criticizing them is not productive, because we fundamentally need shields, and far more of them, in the present environment.

  13. 216 says:

    Not Your Freikorps

    I’m not sure I’ve heard of this “Heath Mayo” before, but this is exactly what Conservatism Inc is about. Coralling on useless principles to guide the rubes whenver a socialist threat emerges.

    It should not be our job to “maintain balance” when the Ocasio-Cortez types rise up. Big Business didn’t give us our wall, but we gave them their tax cuts. Let them have it.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    The praise for John McCain as a man of principles in that feed tells me what I need to know about the guy.

    Interests over principles.
  14. @Baxter
    Your connection to this country, while being a legal one, is also an emotionally one. If you can distance yourself from the thing,you can laugh.
    I say, the longer we continue down the diversity path, the bigger the explosion is going to be.

    The plane is coming down. There is still time for a soft landing but eventually there will be no other option than to crash into the side of a mountain.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    William the Conqueror would be making contingency plans for mass deportations of foreigners from England and the USA and Australia and New Zealand and Canada. I am too.

    The French ruling class reportedly has mass deportation contingency plans in case the non-French in France begin to threaten the French state. Macron and the French military have different ideas about the glories of mass immigration and multiculturalism in France.

    It would be rather easy to deport 50 or 60 million foreigners and their spawn from the USA. The political will is there, it is just prevented from being implemented by the JEW/WASP ruling class and the corporate propaganda apparatus and some elements within the government worker crowd.

    Don't Despair -- Deport And Be Happy!

    Tweet from 2015:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/656555559198588928
  15. @MikeatMikedotMike
    The "hate crime" classification by design was meant to target white perpetrators. That it seems to instead document the extreme inverse of the intended results must be a shock at some level to the original creators of such an abominable concept.

    The second biggest problem with it is that even if each state defines "hate crime" identically, it is impossible to apply the classification objectively by any means. If I am remembering correctly, the perpetrators of the Newson/Christian murders were not charged with hate crimes, for example. The delayed white kid that was kidnapped and tortured by a group of blacks a couple years ago were not charged with hate crimes. But some middle aged white lady, in a moment of frustration, tells an ignorant hijab wearing muslim broad shouting into her cell phone in Arabic at the grocery store to "go back to Iraq," then it's a hate crime and the white broad deserves to be publicly humiliated and fined 1000's of dollars.

    Thirdly, and much to Ron Unz's continuing annoyance, authorities love hiding "Hispanic" crime in the white numbers. All it takes to validate this fact is to spend a few minutes viewing the mug shots and accompanying racial descriptions of any county corrections website whose county hosts a large municipal area.

    Anyway, so while I think the gist of the charts is correct, I'm not sure any sort of exact data will ever be known, because the entire concept of "hate crimes" is a fraudulent, unconstitutional travesty to begin with.

    Right. It’s absurdly arbitrary. Pointing out that it is, empirically, primarily a blue state problem is just another fun way to highlight its lack of validity.

    • Agree: MikeatMikedotMike
  16. @Achmed E. Newman
    1) What WorkingClass said!

    2) I have never in my life read a story of a black or hispanic person being convicted of a "hate-crime" - maybe they've been accused by white people that are not part of the legal system - say the Knoxville Horror case, but that's all.

    3) The FBI needs to stick to kidnapping and downsize by about 90% since there aren't that many kidnappings.

    4)

    That strikingly robust relationship is buoyed by the District of Columbia, the most hate-filled place in the country by far.
     
    I wonder if that's any relation to the fact that Washington, FS* is the most HATED place in the country by far.

    5) GO MISSISSIPPI! At least they are number 1 in something, rather than dead last - it's hard to get out of the bottom 5 when dragged down by a certain 30-odd % subset of the population.

    .

    * Federal Shithole (don't worry, your mail will still get there.)

    Mississippi’s refusal to play the game, reporting a single incident for all of 2017, is admirable.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Yeah, black or white, the officials down South are not quite PC enough to be into that BS.
  17. @Charles Pewitt
    Trump and the GOP and Conservatism, Inc. Tell White Core America To Go To Hell!

    White Core America Will Tell Trump and the GOP and Conservatism, Inc. To Go To Hell!

    https://twitter.com/westland_will/status/1102099235791466496

    Like the Z Blog points out, CPAC is little more than an opportunity for housebroken conservatives to takes selfies with the one or two black attendees.

    • LOL: Tyrion 2
  18. @216
    Not Your Freikorps

    https://twitter.com/Vining40404/status/1102009438951669761

    I'm not sure I've heard of this "Heath Mayo" before, but this is exactly what Conservatism Inc is about. Coralling on useless principles to guide the rubes whenver a socialist threat emerges.

    It should not be our job to "maintain balance" when the Ocasio-Cortez types rise up. Big Business didn't give us our wall, but we gave them their tax cuts. Let them have it.

    The praise for John McCain as a man of principles in that feed tells me what I need to know about the guy.

    Interests over principles.

    • Replies: @216
    It Gets Better (ironic)

    https://twitter.com/HeathMayo/status/1102253843868344320

    https://twitter.com/TheValuesVoter/status/1102299125343813633

    Show Mr. Values the data everyone. He can call it harassment all he wants, but this is subversion.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    They let Van Jones speak at CPAC to tell them that they have one thing they should be proud of - letting more black prison imates go free. That's gonna get the base enthused .... yeah ...

    Van Jones was one guy Glenn Beck used to single out on his rotating chalkboard on his old show, as a sick Commie, back before Beck when batshit crazy.
  19. @Audacious Epigone
    The praise for John McCain as a man of principles in that feed tells me what I need to know about the guy.

    Interests over principles.

    It Gets Better (ironic)

    Show Mr. Values the data everyone. He can call it harassment all he wants, but this is subversion.

    • Replies: @216
    https://twitter.com/blackrepublican/status/1102256497227124736

    Lol, cuck all you want but they will never accept you. The SJWs love the phrase "when some one tells you who they are, believe them".

    Her whole identity is being anti-white, and subversive by not identifying as left-wing.

    Identitarianism for me, but cuckservatism for thee.
  20. 216 says:
    @216
    It Gets Better (ironic)

    https://twitter.com/HeathMayo/status/1102253843868344320

    https://twitter.com/TheValuesVoter/status/1102299125343813633

    Show Mr. Values the data everyone. He can call it harassment all he wants, but this is subversion.

    Lol, cuck all you want but they will never accept you. The SJWs love the phrase “when some one tells you who they are, believe them”.

    Her whole identity is being anti-white, and subversive by not identifying as left-wing.

    Identitarianism for me, but cuckservatism for thee.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Surely he's being trolled there.
  21. @Audacious Epigone
    Mississippi's refusal to play the game, reporting a single incident for all of 2017, is admirable.

    Yeah, black or white, the officials down South are not quite PC enough to be into that BS.

  22. @Audacious Epigone
    The praise for John McCain as a man of principles in that feed tells me what I need to know about the guy.

    Interests over principles.

    They let Van Jones speak at CPAC to tell them that they have one thing they should be proud of – letting more black prison imates go free. That’s gonna get the base enthused …. yeah …

    Van Jones was one guy Glenn Beck used to single out on his rotating chalkboard on his old show, as a sick Commie, back before Beck when batshit crazy.

  23. @WorkingClass
    There is hate. There is crime. There is no such thing as hate crime.

    Hi WorkingClass. There is hate (an emotion). There is crime (a tangible deed that is outlawed). You are correct to note that they are two very distinct and separate things.

    But they have been cleverly conjoined so that thought can be criminalized and ‘badthink’ can be prosecuted with elevated levels of punishment.

  24. @WorkingClass
    There is hate. There is crime. There is no such thing as hate crime.

    There is hate. There is crime. There is no such thing as hate crime.

    Agreed. Tangible expression of hatred as a motive in crime should be factored into sentencing, but should not form a separate criminal category. It is, in fact, a legal monstrosity as it leads to de facto double jeopardy in some cases.

  25. Asians lowest at 15% of their population share despite the reputation of being racist?

    Asians – we just do the hate, we don’t do the crime!

  26. @MikeatMikedotMike
    The "hate crime" classification by design was meant to target white perpetrators. That it seems to instead document the extreme inverse of the intended results must be a shock at some level to the original creators of such an abominable concept.

    The second biggest problem with it is that even if each state defines "hate crime" identically, it is impossible to apply the classification objectively by any means. If I am remembering correctly, the perpetrators of the Newson/Christian murders were not charged with hate crimes, for example. The delayed white kid that was kidnapped and tortured by a group of blacks a couple years ago were not charged with hate crimes. But some middle aged white lady, in a moment of frustration, tells an ignorant hijab wearing muslim broad shouting into her cell phone in Arabic at the grocery store to "go back to Iraq," then it's a hate crime and the white broad deserves to be publicly humiliated and fined 1000's of dollars.

    Thirdly, and much to Ron Unz's continuing annoyance, authorities love hiding "Hispanic" crime in the white numbers. All it takes to validate this fact is to spend a few minutes viewing the mug shots and accompanying racial descriptions of any county corrections website whose county hosts a large municipal area.

    Anyway, so while I think the gist of the charts is correct, I'm not sure any sort of exact data will ever be known, because the entire concept of "hate crimes" is a fraudulent, unconstitutional travesty to begin with.

    Thirdly, and much to Ron Unz’s continuing annoyance, authorities love hiding “Hispanic” crime in the white numbers. All it takes to validate this fact is to spend a few minutes viewing the mug shots and accompanying racial descriptions of any county corrections website whose county hosts a large municipal area.

    In fairness to Mr. Unz’s argument, his numbers are age-normed and Hispanics are younger than whites. I suspect that once age-normed Hispanic crime rate is probably about 1.5x the White rate. So they cluster more toward whites than blacks in the United States, who are the undisputed champions in crime.

    Of course, that raises a number of related questions which he does not address in detail or give satisfactory answers such as:

    1. What account for the extreme rates of violent crime in Latin America,
    2. Why American-born Mexicans are incarcerated at something like 7x rate of foreign-born Mexicans (all foreign-born in America have lower incarceration rates than their native counterparts, including whites and Asians, but the multiple is particularly pronounced with Hispanics),
    3. Why are Hispanics so highly represented in sex crimes, and
    4. Even if not nearly as bad as blacks, why import people who are still more violent than whites and become generationally mired in poverty and low education attainment?

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    One additional point of speculation that Ron Unz doesn't address is that of unreported or under reported violent (especially incest related) crime within the Hispanic communities, due to fear of deportation. Impossible to ever know exactly, but in my mind there's no question it is a relevant factor to consider.

    My wife is a social worker in the Chicago area, who has dealt specifically with child separation cases for the last 25 years. Mexicans and other Central Americans are vastly over-represented in sexual assault and or incest, but don't actually make up a large overall percentage of her total caseload. Chicago and many suburbs and townships in the surround are a third Hispanic, but they probably only make up a 5th (at best) of her cases.

    My overall point being with my original comment that Hispanics - specifically Central Americans - are certainly not as violent as blacks, but not as close to whites on the spectrum as Unz suggests.
  27. @Audacious Epigone
    The plane is coming down. There is still time for a soft landing but eventually there will be no other option than to crash into the side of a mountain.

    William the Conqueror would be making contingency plans for mass deportations of foreigners from England and the USA and Australia and New Zealand and Canada. I am too.

    The French ruling class reportedly has mass deportation contingency plans in case the non-French in France begin to threaten the French state. Macron and the French military have different ideas about the glories of mass immigration and multiculturalism in France.

    It would be rather easy to deport 50 or 60 million foreigners and their spawn from the USA. The political will is there, it is just prevented from being implemented by the JEW/WASP ruling class and the corporate propaganda apparatus and some elements within the government worker crowd.

    Don’t Despair — Deport And Be Happy!

    Tweet from 2015:

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    William was the foreigner!
  28. @WorkingClass
    There is hate. There is crime. There is no such thing as hate crime.

    Agreed. Saying there is “hate” rape is saying there is something that is not “hate” rape. As if one would every truly rape someone and be ambivalent to them without being a sociopath.

  29. It’s possible that in the PC blue states, people can’t blow off steam, so the less intelligent are more likely to react in an outburst. Whereas in Mississippi, a guy is more likely to have friends he can speak honestly with – “those damn n_ggers” etc, in Seattle he’s stuck nursing those thoughts in his own head all alone. If he has low self-control, he might lose control of his mouth in a moment of anger.

    Of course, “HATE CRIME” is a farce. Only white people can commit hate crimes, as we know.

    • Replies: @J1234

    It’s possible that in the PC blue states, people can’t blow off steam, so the less intelligent are more likely to react in an outburst.
     
    It's possible, but I think the point is that while trotting out broad and vague hate crime statistics is beneficial to the left, closer scrutiny of those statistics tends to be incriminating of the left. As AE said, "The anticipated retort that blue state hate is higher on account of MAGA men lashing out in places where they feel numerically besieged is hard to square with the significant overrepresentation of blacks among hate crime offenders."

    My 85% white midwestern state is ranked towards the middle of this chart, is solidly in the bottom half of the states for violent crime and has a murder rate not much higher than Maine (the least violent state in the Union), yet the first thing you see when you walk into our state's history museum is a display labeled "HATE" in huge letters. Much of the display, as I recall, centers around one guy who had a Hitler/Swastika fetish, but my understanding is that he never actually hurt or assaulted anyone and hasn't lived here in a long time. Basically a nutty publicity hound. The rest of the display had to do with a couple of lynchings that took place 100 years ago.

    Interestingly, elsewhere in the same museum, there's a diorama of an Indian tribe murdering a young girl captured from a neighboring tribe as part of a religious ceremony. The group of boys I'd brought to the museum were told by the flustered guide not to judge the Indians harshly or label their behavior as barbaric, as their culture and life experiences were different than ours.
  30. @216
    https://twitter.com/blackrepublican/status/1102256497227124736

    Lol, cuck all you want but they will never accept you. The SJWs love the phrase "when some one tells you who they are, believe them".

    Her whole identity is being anti-white, and subversive by not identifying as left-wing.

    Identitarianism for me, but cuckservatism for thee.

    Surely he’s being trolled there.

  31. @Charles Pewitt
    William the Conqueror would be making contingency plans for mass deportations of foreigners from England and the USA and Australia and New Zealand and Canada. I am too.

    The French ruling class reportedly has mass deportation contingency plans in case the non-French in France begin to threaten the French state. Macron and the French military have different ideas about the glories of mass immigration and multiculturalism in France.

    It would be rather easy to deport 50 or 60 million foreigners and their spawn from the USA. The political will is there, it is just prevented from being implemented by the JEW/WASP ruling class and the corporate propaganda apparatus and some elements within the government worker crowd.

    Don't Despair -- Deport And Be Happy!

    Tweet from 2015:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/656555559198588928

    William was the foreigner!

    • LOL: Twinkie
    • Replies: @Twinkie

    William was the foreigner!
     
    By Charles Pewitt’s logic, William was a twice-foreigner, since he was a “spawn” of Norsemen foreigners in France an then a Norman-French foreigner in England.

    And, as an immigrant, he did the job that the native English couldn’t or wouldn’t do and subjugated Wales for them. He couldn’t just let the crops spoil on the bogs and meadows of Wales, could he?
    , @Charles Pewitt
    William the Conqueror considered England to be his by right. The Saxon ruling class that tried to screw him over might have thought he was a "foreigner." They settled the matter in 1066 in a manner similar to how Civil War II will settle matters in the USA.

    The Saxons had booted some of the Britons out and they found a lodgement in France, just like the Normans from Scandinavia did. That Rollo guy wasn't just a character on a TV show.

    William the Conqueror was just delivering some payback to the Saxons for screwing him over and for booting out the Britons from Britain.
  32. @Twinkie

    Thirdly, and much to Ron Unz’s continuing annoyance, authorities love hiding “Hispanic” crime in the white numbers. All it takes to validate this fact is to spend a few minutes viewing the mug shots and accompanying racial descriptions of any county corrections website whose county hosts a large municipal area.
     
    In fairness to Mr. Unz’s argument, his numbers are age-normed and Hispanics are younger than whites. I suspect that once age-normed Hispanic crime rate is probably about 1.5x the White rate. So they cluster more toward whites than blacks in the United States, who are the undisputed champions in crime.

    Of course, that raises a number of related questions which he does not address in detail or give satisfactory answers such as:

    1. What account for the extreme rates of violent crime in Latin America,
    2. Why American-born Mexicans are incarcerated at something like 7x rate of foreign-born Mexicans (all foreign-born in America have lower incarceration rates than their native counterparts, including whites and Asians, but the multiple is particularly pronounced with Hispanics),
    3. Why are Hispanics so highly represented in sex crimes, and
    4. Even if not nearly as bad as blacks, why import people who are still more violent than whites and become generationally mired in poverty and low education attainment?

    One additional point of speculation that Ron Unz doesn’t address is that of unreported or under reported violent (especially incest related) crime within the Hispanic communities, due to fear of deportation. Impossible to ever know exactly, but in my mind there’s no question it is a relevant factor to consider.

    My wife is a social worker in the Chicago area, who has dealt specifically with child separation cases for the last 25 years. Mexicans and other Central Americans are vastly over-represented in sexual assault and or incest, but don’t actually make up a large overall percentage of her total caseload. Chicago and many suburbs and townships in the surround are a third Hispanic, but they probably only make up a 5th (at best) of her cases.

    My overall point being with my original comment that Hispanics – specifically Central Americans – are certainly not as violent as blacks, but not as close to whites on the spectrum as Unz suggests.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    One additional point of speculation that Ron Unz doesn’t address is that of unreported or under reported violent (especially incest related) crime within the Hispanic communities, due to fear of deportation. Impossible to ever know exactly, but in my mind there’s no question it is a relevant factor to consider.
     
    That's a very good point. Considering that a huge majority - perhaps up to 80% - of illegal aliens are Hispanic, it is very likely that crime is significantly underreported among Hispanics.
  33. @Audacious Epigone
    William was the foreigner!

    William was the foreigner!

    By Charles Pewitt’s logic, William was a twice-foreigner, since he was a “spawn” of Norsemen foreigners in France an then a Norman-French foreigner in England.

    And, as an immigrant, he did the job that the native English couldn’t or wouldn’t do and subjugated Wales for them. He couldn’t just let the crops spoil on the bogs and meadows of Wales, could he?

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    And, as an immigrant, he did the job that the native English couldn’t or wouldn’t do and subjugated Wales for them. He couldn’t just let the crops spoil on the bogs and meadows of Wales, could he?

     

    The Romans built a few forts and ate spaghetti in Wales before they swam home.

    The other Britons thought it best not to bother the Welsh, especially when they were bombed on ale and in a foul mood.

    The Saxons and Angles tried to have their way with the Welsh every now and again but let them be for the most part.

    The Normans had to build castles in Wales to keep the drunk Welsh people from bothering them.

    After I take over the American Empire and Germany, I'll get all the non-Welsh out of Wales.
    , @Charles Pewitt
    A great battle will be fought by the White Core Patriots against the Globalizers to determine the fate of Wales.

    The White Core Patriots shall emerge victorious, and Wales will once again be for the Welsh.

    To celebrate the Battle of Wales victory of the White Core Patriot forces this tune shall be played.

    Welsh Bagpipes -- Lloyd's Whim:

    https://youtu.be/IBqIpECtE64
  34. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    It's possible that in the PC blue states, people can't blow off steam, so the less intelligent are more likely to react in an outburst. Whereas in Mississippi, a guy is more likely to have friends he can speak honestly with - "those damn n_ggers" etc, in Seattle he's stuck nursing those thoughts in his own head all alone. If he has low self-control, he might lose control of his mouth in a moment of anger.

    Of course, "HATE CRIME" is a farce. Only white people can commit hate crimes, as we know.

    It’s possible that in the PC blue states, people can’t blow off steam, so the less intelligent are more likely to react in an outburst.

    It’s possible, but I think the point is that while trotting out broad and vague hate crime statistics is beneficial to the left, closer scrutiny of those statistics tends to be incriminating of the left. As AE said, “The anticipated retort that blue state hate is higher on account of MAGA men lashing out in places where they feel numerically besieged is hard to square with the significant overrepresentation of blacks among hate crime offenders.

    My 85% white midwestern state is ranked towards the middle of this chart, is solidly in the bottom half of the states for violent crime and has a murder rate not much higher than Maine (the least violent state in the Union), yet the first thing you see when you walk into our state’s history museum is a display labeled “HATE” in huge letters. Much of the display, as I recall, centers around one guy who had a Hitler/Swastika fetish, but my understanding is that he never actually hurt or assaulted anyone and hasn’t lived here in a long time. Basically a nutty publicity hound. The rest of the display had to do with a couple of lynchings that took place 100 years ago.

    Interestingly, elsewhere in the same museum, there’s a diorama of an Indian tribe murdering a young girl captured from a neighboring tribe as part of a religious ceremony. The group of boys I’d brought to the museum were told by the flustered guide not to judge the Indians harshly or label their behavior as barbaric, as their culture and life experiences were different than ours.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  35. @Audacious Epigone
    William was the foreigner!

    William the Conqueror considered England to be his by right. The Saxon ruling class that tried to screw him over might have thought he was a “foreigner.” They settled the matter in 1066 in a manner similar to how Civil War II will settle matters in the USA.

    The Saxons had booted some of the Britons out and they found a lodgement in France, just like the Normans from Scandinavia did. That Rollo guy wasn’t just a character on a TV show.

    William the Conqueror was just delivering some payback to the Saxons for screwing him over and for booting out the Britons from Britain.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    He claimed the king promised him the throne, heritage Saxons be damned! If those heritage Saxons weren't fighting what basically amounted to a two-front war, they may have been able to hold out. Alas.
  36. @Twinkie

    William was the foreigner!
     
    By Charles Pewitt’s logic, William was a twice-foreigner, since he was a “spawn” of Norsemen foreigners in France an then a Norman-French foreigner in England.

    And, as an immigrant, he did the job that the native English couldn’t or wouldn’t do and subjugated Wales for them. He couldn’t just let the crops spoil on the bogs and meadows of Wales, could he?

    And, as an immigrant, he did the job that the native English couldn’t or wouldn’t do and subjugated Wales for them. He couldn’t just let the crops spoil on the bogs and meadows of Wales, could he?

    The Romans built a few forts and ate spaghetti in Wales before they swam home.

    The other Britons thought it best not to bother the Welsh, especially when they were bombed on ale and in a foul mood.

    The Saxons and Angles tried to have their way with the Welsh every now and again but let them be for the most part.

    The Normans had to build castles in Wales to keep the drunk Welsh people from bothering them.

    After I take over the American Empire and Germany, I’ll get all the non-Welsh out of Wales.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    After I take over the American Empire and Germany, I’ll get all the non-Welsh out of Wales.
     
    A Welsh friend of mine had a sign that read "Anglo-Saxons go home - Britain for Britons!"
  37. @Twinkie

    William was the foreigner!
     
    By Charles Pewitt’s logic, William was a twice-foreigner, since he was a “spawn” of Norsemen foreigners in France an then a Norman-French foreigner in England.

    And, as an immigrant, he did the job that the native English couldn’t or wouldn’t do and subjugated Wales for them. He couldn’t just let the crops spoil on the bogs and meadows of Wales, could he?

    A great battle will be fought by the White Core Patriots against the Globalizers to determine the fate of Wales.

    The White Core Patriots shall emerge victorious, and Wales will once again be for the Welsh.

    To celebrate the Battle of Wales victory of the White Core Patriot forces this tune shall be played.

    Welsh Bagpipes — Lloyd’s Whim:

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    Two questions:

    1. Is Trump a Kantian?

    2. Are you this guy?
    https://youtu.be/iOk6HB609po
  38. @Charles Pewitt
    William the Conqueror considered England to be his by right. The Saxon ruling class that tried to screw him over might have thought he was a "foreigner." They settled the matter in 1066 in a manner similar to how Civil War II will settle matters in the USA.

    The Saxons had booted some of the Britons out and they found a lodgement in France, just like the Normans from Scandinavia did. That Rollo guy wasn't just a character on a TV show.

    William the Conqueror was just delivering some payback to the Saxons for screwing him over and for booting out the Britons from Britain.

    He claimed the king promised him the throne, heritage Saxons be damned! If those heritage Saxons weren’t fighting what basically amounted to a two-front war, they may have been able to hold out. Alas.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    heritage Saxons
     
    Those were probably a lot less than 100% Saxon, perhaps even only half or less than half so. There is evidence that Wessex was founded by British elites who assimilated to the ways of Saxons rather than a Saxon superstrate imposed on Britons by conquest.
    , @Charles Pewitt
    I have some Saxon ancestors. I also have Norman ancestors. Many Southerners do too.

    Some guy from Norway hit 'em up top of England and then Willy delivered the death blow to the Saxon ruling class.

    Crybaby bastards on a TV show lamented that the ancestors of the Normans still control 2o percent of the United Kingdom. Tough cookies!

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire must be decapitated like William the Conqueror decapitated the Saxon ruling class of England.

    The answer to 1984 is 1066.
  39. @Charles Pewitt

    And, as an immigrant, he did the job that the native English couldn’t or wouldn’t do and subjugated Wales for them. He couldn’t just let the crops spoil on the bogs and meadows of Wales, could he?

     

    The Romans built a few forts and ate spaghetti in Wales before they swam home.

    The other Britons thought it best not to bother the Welsh, especially when they were bombed on ale and in a foul mood.

    The Saxons and Angles tried to have their way with the Welsh every now and again but let them be for the most part.

    The Normans had to build castles in Wales to keep the drunk Welsh people from bothering them.

    After I take over the American Empire and Germany, I'll get all the non-Welsh out of Wales.

    After I take over the American Empire and Germany, I’ll get all the non-Welsh out of Wales.

    A Welsh friend of mine had a sign that read “Anglo-Saxons go home – Britain for Britons!”

  40. @Audacious Epigone
    He claimed the king promised him the throne, heritage Saxons be damned! If those heritage Saxons weren't fighting what basically amounted to a two-front war, they may have been able to hold out. Alas.

    heritage Saxons

    Those were probably a lot less than 100% Saxon, perhaps even only half or less than half so. There is evidence that Wessex was founded by British elites who assimilated to the ways of Saxons rather than a Saxon superstrate imposed on Britons by conquest.

  41. @Charles Pewitt
    A great battle will be fought by the White Core Patriots against the Globalizers to determine the fate of Wales.

    The White Core Patriots shall emerge victorious, and Wales will once again be for the Welsh.

    To celebrate the Battle of Wales victory of the White Core Patriot forces this tune shall be played.

    Welsh Bagpipes -- Lloyd's Whim:

    https://youtu.be/IBqIpECtE64

    Two questions:

    1. Is Trump a Kantian?

    2. Are you this guy?

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    1. Is Trump a Kantian?

     

    I can't answer whether or not Trumpy is a Kantian. Only The Shadow knows what's in Trumpy's heart.

    2. Are you this guy?

     

    I am not that fat-faced, over-educated dope made famous by mischievous SOBs on the internet.

    Trump is a treasonous rat who pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    I hereby challenge Adelson Whore Trump and Mike "Jenny Granholm Nose" Pence to a debate on immigration, national identity and foreign policy.

    I would rhetorically obliterate Trump and Pence in a 4 hour debate on immigration, national identity and foreign policy.
  42. @MikeatMikedotMike
    One additional point of speculation that Ron Unz doesn't address is that of unreported or under reported violent (especially incest related) crime within the Hispanic communities, due to fear of deportation. Impossible to ever know exactly, but in my mind there's no question it is a relevant factor to consider.

    My wife is a social worker in the Chicago area, who has dealt specifically with child separation cases for the last 25 years. Mexicans and other Central Americans are vastly over-represented in sexual assault and or incest, but don't actually make up a large overall percentage of her total caseload. Chicago and many suburbs and townships in the surround are a third Hispanic, but they probably only make up a 5th (at best) of her cases.

    My overall point being with my original comment that Hispanics - specifically Central Americans - are certainly not as violent as blacks, but not as close to whites on the spectrum as Unz suggests.

    One additional point of speculation that Ron Unz doesn’t address is that of unreported or under reported violent (especially incest related) crime within the Hispanic communities, due to fear of deportation. Impossible to ever know exactly, but in my mind there’s no question it is a relevant factor to consider.

    That’s a very good point. Considering that a huge majority – perhaps up to 80% – of illegal aliens are Hispanic, it is very likely that crime is significantly underreported among Hispanics.

  43. @Twinkie
    Two questions:

    1. Is Trump a Kantian?

    2. Are you this guy?
    https://youtu.be/iOk6HB609po

    1. Is Trump a Kantian?

    I can’t answer whether or not Trumpy is a Kantian. Only The Shadow knows what’s in Trumpy’s heart.

    2. Are you this guy?

    I am not that fat-faced, over-educated dope made famous by mischievous SOBs on the internet.

    Trump is a treasonous rat who pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    I hereby challenge Adelson Whore Trump and Mike “Jenny Granholm Nose” Pence to a debate on immigration, national identity and foreign policy.

    I would rhetorically obliterate Trump and Pence in a 4 hour debate on immigration, national identity and foreign policy.

  44. @Audacious Epigone
    He claimed the king promised him the throne, heritage Saxons be damned! If those heritage Saxons weren't fighting what basically amounted to a two-front war, they may have been able to hold out. Alas.

    I have some Saxon ancestors. I also have Norman ancestors. Many Southerners do too.

    Some guy from Norway hit ’em up top of England and then Willy delivered the death blow to the Saxon ruling class.

    Crybaby bastards on a TV show lamented that the ancestors of the Normans still control 2o percent of the United Kingdom. Tough cookies!

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire must be decapitated like William the Conqueror decapitated the Saxon ruling class of England.

    The answer to 1984 is 1066.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    There probably aren't too many people who have Saxon ancestry from Britain who don't also have Norman ancestry mixed in there somewhere along the way.
  45. @Charles Pewitt
    I have some Saxon ancestors. I also have Norman ancestors. Many Southerners do too.

    Some guy from Norway hit 'em up top of England and then Willy delivered the death blow to the Saxon ruling class.

    Crybaby bastards on a TV show lamented that the ancestors of the Normans still control 2o percent of the United Kingdom. Tough cookies!

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire must be decapitated like William the Conqueror decapitated the Saxon ruling class of England.

    The answer to 1984 is 1066.

    There probably aren’t too many people who have Saxon ancestry from Britain who don’t also have Norman ancestry mixed in there somewhere along the way.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    There probably aren’t too many people who have Saxon ancestry from Britain who don’t also have Norman ancestry mixed in there somewhere along the way.
     
    Based on the recent genetic studies, it appears that Britons are about 50% British (Celtic? Brythonic?) and 50% Germanic, with the Norman ancestry being quite thin... which makes sense given that Normans were an elite superstrate imposed upon the native Saxon-British substrate by conquest (in contrast, the Saxons both invaded and migrated, i.e. brought some of their women and children). Even the overall Germanic percentage (assume mostly Saxon) is quite a surprise, given that the Saxons used to be taught in history as being an intrusive element that replaced the previous natives.

    And what the genetic studies show is that the proportions of ancestry are not even - Germanic elements are strongest in the former Danelaw areas and get weaker in Cornwall, Wales, etc.
  46. A Swede recently claimed on Quora.com that his country was the rape capital of Europe only because the legal definition was so broad, and each incident counted as a separate crime, rather than one crime by a group or, serially, an individual.

    That might explain some of this, too. Perhaps.

  47. @Audacious Epigone
    There probably aren't too many people who have Saxon ancestry from Britain who don't also have Norman ancestry mixed in there somewhere along the way.

    There probably aren’t too many people who have Saxon ancestry from Britain who don’t also have Norman ancestry mixed in there somewhere along the way.

    Based on the recent genetic studies, it appears that Britons are about 50% British (Celtic? Brythonic?) and 50% Germanic, with the Norman ancestry being quite thin… which makes sense given that Normans were an elite superstrate imposed upon the native Saxon-British substrate by conquest (in contrast, the Saxons both invaded and migrated, i.e. brought some of their women and children). Even the overall Germanic percentage (assume mostly Saxon) is quite a surprise, given that the Saxons used to be taught in history as being an intrusive element that replaced the previous natives.

    And what the genetic studies show is that the proportions of ancestry are not even – Germanic elements are strongest in the former Danelaw areas and get weaker in Cornwall, Wales, etc.

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