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I’m skeptical both of it potentially being a real phenomenon and of its general desirability, but the sample size is large and the trend is pretty clear, a trend that contrasts with that of whites. Trump’s approval rating among blacks, by age, from an ongoing Reuters-Ipsos poll that commenced a month into his presidency (“mixed feelings”, comprising less than 6% of all responses, are excluded):

 
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  1. Based on all of the insanity coming from the globalist end, and the media, it does seem like they’re trying to cover something. Based on all of the hate hoaxes and accusations of racism that doesn’t exist, it’s clear that they’re kind of freaking out since they’re ruining their credibility.

    Are Republicans better for blacks than Democrats? Perhaps yes, but I don’t see Paul Ryan or tax cuts for the rich helping them either. What they need is either their own party, or a nationalist/anti immigration Republican (like Trump on paper).

    As an aside, I wonder if it has to do with how crazy most younger white liberals are. They really do treat blacks like their pet monkeys, while pretending to love the precious “POC”. Older white liberals aren’t the same way, so they might not rub the older blacks they interact with the wrong way.

    • Replies: @216
    One aspect about younger white liberals is that most of them grew up being a conscious minority. There's always frequent narrative about "racist evangelical relatives" that they "escaped from". It's why there's still continuous impetus given to "coming out", even though society has grown absurdly tolerant of deviant sexuality.

    Among Millennials and Zeds at large, liberals are the minority, but typically white liberals don't have their "own space" as this is ruthlessly criticized by the PeeOhCee they indicate are moral superiors. I don't think it is correct to use the label "pets". If anything white liberals are the pets of POC, who often comment that they need to be continuously discplined into better "allies".

    In raw economic terms, we aren't going to generate enough well-paying manufacturing/blue collar jobs to genuninely move millions of PeeOhCee to the other side of the ledger. So they have little interest in voting for the smaller government party. But there are ways in which the Dems are compromised with their slavish behavior towards Big Tech, which doesn't employ Non-Asian minorities in sizeable numbers.
    , @Tyrion 2
    Smart people understand, and are creeped out, when people praise them merely for the colour of their skin.

    Some might take advantage, but others will just be annoyed.
    , @Thomm

    or tax cuts for the rich helping them either.
     
    There have been no 'tax cuts for the rich'. That is a Leftist talking point (WN is a left-wing ideology).

    The ultra-wealthy are not affected by the 'retail' tax rate, as their income is intercepted before it is ever reported on the 1040.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    Alternatively, the staggeringly high Democrat-bent of older blacks is understandably difficult to sustain in an increasingly atomized age. This relatively higher support among younger blacks could be a sort of regression to the mean.
    , @Mr. XYZ
    It's possible that older Blacks have fond memories of the role that liberals played in the Civil Rights Movement back in the 1950s and beyond. Younger Blacks who don't remember the CRM don't have such memories.

    Also, Yes, tax cuts for the rich and corporate whoring isn't exactly going to endear Republicans to Blacks. Indeed, it would be perfectly rational for Blacks to assume that more immigration and a generous social safety net is better than corporate whoring and a less generous social safety net.
  2. Politics aside, Trump lives the perceived lifestyle young black males fantasize about. Before Trump was president (and before Kanye West’s support) black rappers would reference Trump in mostly positive terms. Trump does what he wants and doesn’t apologize for it. This arrogance/high self confidence/whatever-you-want-to-call-it demonstrates a position of strength (we’ve all observed how apologies convey weakness and can make things worse for the issuer) and appeals to blacks’ ZFG nature.

    In contrast, Ralph Northam has already proceeded with the inevitable apology orgy, which will do little but enrage his critics even further. We will never know, but it would be interesting to see his approval ratings among blacks before and after the yearbook was discovered, if he decided NOT to apologize.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    He thinks referencing Michael Jackson and putting up a social media cover photo of himself with POC kids will save him. It won't. Sow what you reap.
  3. Candidate Trump was opposed to mass legal immigration and illegal immigration. Many Blacks ain’t so happy about mass legal immigration and illegal immigration.

    Candidate Trump was opposed to endless, Neo-Conservative wars overseas. Many Blacks scratch their heads about all the emphasis on foreigners and foreign wars when we got problems right here in the USA.

    Trump is a New Yorker who has hobnobbed with plenty of Black celebrities.

    Black men like to watch Trump acting like he is tearing the joint down. The reality is that Trump was co-opted by the GOP ruling class rats right off the bat.

    Blacks might be reacting to Trump’s rhetoric on immigration. Blacks might be highly skeptical of Trump, but they know that mass legal immigration and illegal immigration has harmed Black people.

    In my younger days, when I was cynical and sneaky, I used the adverse impact of mass legal immigration and illegal immigration on Black Americans to hammer George W Bush on immigration policy.

    Tweet from 2015:

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    I wish blacks expressed more opposition to immigration, but I never see evidence of it beyond the anecdotal.
  4. The real question is how will they vote on the only poll that really matters.

    I think they will do what Lee Kwan Yew says and vote on racial lines, no matter how much better off they are under Trump.

    However, it looks like it might not matter, given the recent lesson for whites from the Non-White Party.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Tyrion 2

    I think they will do what Lee Kwan Yew says and vote on racial lines, no matter how much better off they are under Trump.
     
    How would that be voting on racial lines?
    , @The Alarmist

    "I think they will do what Lee Kwan Yew says and vote on racial lines, no matter how much better off they are under Trump."
     
    Suppose the non-White party nominates Uncle Joe, Bernie, or ... God help us ... Madame Clinton: Do any of them qualify for garnering more votes along racial lines, or will Trump be able to peel off enough to make a difference? For that matter, can anyone say the half-Tamil half-Jamaican Kamala Harris is worthy, given the lack of slave blood? Is Cory perhaps too suspect as a confirmed bachelor to get the votes of the notoriously homosceptical 'hood?
  5. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Based on all of the insanity coming from the globalist end, and the media, it does seem like they're trying to cover something. Based on all of the hate hoaxes and accusations of racism that doesn't exist, it's clear that they're kind of freaking out since they're ruining their credibility.

    Are Republicans better for blacks than Democrats? Perhaps yes, but I don't see Paul Ryan or tax cuts for the rich helping them either. What they need is either their own party, or a nationalist/anti immigration Republican (like Trump on paper).

    As an aside, I wonder if it has to do with how crazy most younger white liberals are. They really do treat blacks like their pet monkeys, while pretending to love the precious "POC". Older white liberals aren't the same way, so they might not rub the older blacks they interact with the wrong way.

    One aspect about younger white liberals is that most of them grew up being a conscious minority. There’s always frequent narrative about “racist evangelical relatives” that they “escaped from”. It’s why there’s still continuous impetus given to “coming out”, even though society has grown absurdly tolerant of deviant sexuality.

    Among Millennials and Zeds at large, liberals are the minority, but typically white liberals don’t have their “own space” as this is ruthlessly criticized by the PeeOhCee they indicate are moral superiors. I don’t think it is correct to use the label “pets”. If anything white liberals are the pets of POC, who often comment that they need to be continuously discplined into better “allies”.

    In raw economic terms, we aren’t going to generate enough well-paying manufacturing/blue collar jobs to genuninely move millions of PeeOhCee to the other side of the ledger. So they have little interest in voting for the smaller government party. But there are ways in which the Dems are compromised with their slavish behavior towards Big Tech, which doesn’t employ Non-Asian minorities in sizeable numbers.

    • Replies: @415 reasons
    Yea the big source of cushy lifetime employment these days is not big corporations, it’s big universities. As far as POC are concerned these are an even better sinecure because many of the jobs can be specifically earmarked for people of diversity. Seems like this racket will permanently weld the POC bloc to the Democratic Party.
  6. if the democrat candidate is not african, trump might even get 20% of the african men’s votes.

    but the democrats will run an african from now on, which is the smart thing. so trump will only get 5% of the african men’s votes, and 1% of the african women’s votes.

    an irrelevant trend for the jack kemp wing of the Grand Old Loser party.

    possibly of some importance, could trump ever get to 50% of the mexican vote. probably not. and anything less than 50% is a loss. so even getting to 40% is a loss. getting to 50%, which just means the mexican vote is a wash, would be a monumental victory for a republican.

    we’ve been over this a thousand times. there is no utility in going for vibrant votes for republicans. fish where the fish are. go hard for european votes.

  7. The Covington struggle session was not prevented, it was only delayed.

    Judgement Day is inevitable

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Northam sowing what he so despicably reaped is a great development. If the message still isn't clear, white men are completely expendable in the Democrat party. Planned Parenthood, which was celebrating Northam two days ago is now calling for him to resign. If Northam was black, the organization wouldn't be, nor would the entire Dem establishment.

    If you're an ambitious young person looking to get into politics, the Democrat party is a terrible prospect for white men. This can only be good for Republicans.
    , @415 reasons
    From the linked speech where the Mayor of New Orleans obsequiously parrots the party line:

    “I just hope people listen like I did when my dear friend Wynton Marsalis helped me see the truth. Another friend asked me to consider these four monuments from the perspective of an African-American mother or father trying to explain to their fifth-grade daughter why Robert E. Lee sat atop of our city.

    Can you do it? Can you do it? Can you look into the eyes of this young girl and convince her that Robert E. Lee is there to encourage her? Do you think she will feel inspired and hopeful by that story? Do these monuments help her see a future with limitless potential?”

    Political correctness turns your brain to mush. This is really the basis for deciding what historical monuments should be razed to the ground? What if not all of history is designed to help you see a future of limitless potential? I suppose that history should be changed.
  8. No he was never conservative at all

    And the few replies that McMuffin gets are still rapping him on the knuckles for not cucking harder.

    We are dealing with an enemy that denies us a right to exist.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna

    Virginia and America require leaders who understand and uphold the equal value of all.
     
    Except if you say something really repulsive like "All Lives Matter"
    in which case you're a Nazi.
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    "We are dealing with an enemy that denies us a right to exist."

    And this enemy is well-funded and believes it has destiny by its side. White folk need to wake up to this unpleasant reality.
  9. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Based on all of the insanity coming from the globalist end, and the media, it does seem like they're trying to cover something. Based on all of the hate hoaxes and accusations of racism that doesn't exist, it's clear that they're kind of freaking out since they're ruining their credibility.

    Are Republicans better for blacks than Democrats? Perhaps yes, but I don't see Paul Ryan or tax cuts for the rich helping them either. What they need is either their own party, or a nationalist/anti immigration Republican (like Trump on paper).

    As an aside, I wonder if it has to do with how crazy most younger white liberals are. They really do treat blacks like their pet monkeys, while pretending to love the precious "POC". Older white liberals aren't the same way, so they might not rub the older blacks they interact with the wrong way.

    Smart people understand, and are creeped out, when people praise them merely for the colour of their skin.

    Some might take advantage, but others will just be annoyed.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Some might take advantage, but others will just be annoyed.
     
    Dishonest and thieving brown immigrants take full advantage of it - and their children believe it.

    I have a very dim view of most non-white intelligence. Especially I'm the 2nd generation and down. The kids believe this garbage and then when their actual view of the world doesn't match up to how they think it should be, start to hate whitey.
  10. @Peripatetic Commenter
    The real question is how will they vote on the only poll that really matters.

    I think they will do what Lee Kwan Yew says and vote on racial lines, no matter how much better off they are under Trump.

    However, it looks like it might not matter, given the recent lesson for whites from the Non-White Party.

    I think they will do what Lee Kwan Yew says and vote on racial lines, no matter how much better off they are under Trump.

    How would that be voting on racial lines?

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Commenter
    Surely it's really not that hard to understand.

    If they vote for a candidate that claims black ancestry, or 95% of blacks who vote vote the same way, it's voting on racial lines.
  11. Blexit? Don’t count on in.

    I mean, Robert ‘Kleagle’ Byrd didn’t cost them the black vote. Nor did George Wallace running as a Democrat as recently as 1976.

  12. Trump’s autograph on the “Prison Reform” bill

    released scores of thousands of Black thieves, rapists, drug dealers, and murderers

    to plague the White population. So, yeah,

    I expect he’ll get a few additional Congoid votes in 2020.

    which’ll offset the few White MAGA idiots

    who’ve finally seen through Trump’s con artistry

    and won’t be voting for him a 2nd time.

    • Troll: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    I hope Audacious treats you the way Vox Day does.  In the mean time... ignored.
  13. @Tyrion 2

    I think they will do what Lee Kwan Yew says and vote on racial lines, no matter how much better off they are under Trump.
     
    How would that be voting on racial lines?

    Surely it’s really not that hard to understand.

    If they vote for a candidate that claims black ancestry, or 95% of blacks who vote vote the same way, it’s voting on racial lines.

  14. Any lost AA voters will be more than enough made up by Indians, Chinese, and of coarse Mexicans. Time for GOP to try for 0% AA support, that point even a idiot like Paul Ryan will be compelled to say that Democrats are the AA party.

  15. @216
    No he was never conservative at all

    https://twitter.com/EvanMcMullin/status/1091806556839120897

    And the few replies that McMuffin gets are still rapping him on the knuckles for not cucking harder.

    We are dealing with an enemy that denies us a right to exist.

    Virginia and America require leaders who understand and uphold the equal value of all.

    Except if you say something really repulsive like “All Lives Matter”
    in which case you’re a Nazi.

  16. @Tyrion 2
    Smart people understand, and are creeped out, when people praise them merely for the colour of their skin.

    Some might take advantage, but others will just be annoyed.

    Some might take advantage, but others will just be annoyed.

    Dishonest and thieving brown immigrants take full advantage of it – and their children believe it.

    I have a very dim view of most non-white intelligence. Especially I’m the 2nd generation and down. The kids believe this garbage and then when their actual view of the world doesn’t match up to how they think it should be, start to hate whitey.

  17. @Haxo Angmark
    Trump's autograph on the "Prison Reform" bill

    released scores of thousands of Black thieves, rapists, drug dealers, and murderers

    to plague the White population. So, yeah,

    I expect he'll get a few additional Congoid votes in 2020.

    which'll offset the few White MAGA idiots

    who've finally seen through Trump's con artistry

    and won't be voting for him a 2nd time.

    I hope Audacious treats you the way Vox Day does.  In the mean time… ignored.

  18. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Based on all of the insanity coming from the globalist end, and the media, it does seem like they're trying to cover something. Based on all of the hate hoaxes and accusations of racism that doesn't exist, it's clear that they're kind of freaking out since they're ruining their credibility.

    Are Republicans better for blacks than Democrats? Perhaps yes, but I don't see Paul Ryan or tax cuts for the rich helping them either. What they need is either their own party, or a nationalist/anti immigration Republican (like Trump on paper).

    As an aside, I wonder if it has to do with how crazy most younger white liberals are. They really do treat blacks like their pet monkeys, while pretending to love the precious "POC". Older white liberals aren't the same way, so they might not rub the older blacks they interact with the wrong way.

    or tax cuts for the rich helping them either.

    There have been no ‘tax cuts for the rich’. That is a Leftist talking point (WN is a left-wing ideology).

    The ultra-wealthy are not affected by the ‘retail’ tax rate, as their income is intercepted before it is ever reported on the 1040.

  19. Trump’s approval rating among blacks, by age

    Whites have a mirror-image graph. For whites, they grow conservative with age and with family-formation. (h/t Coulter)

    The question is, do blacks grow progressive with age with their failed family-formation? Or will this small number of black Trump supporters stay right as the age?

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Good question. If so, then credit is due the "Blexit" movement.
    , @Thomm

    Whites have a mirror-image graph. For whites, they grow conservative with age and with family-formation. (h/t Coulter)
     
    If this were the case, there would not be so many 60 year old powerful white leftists (many of whom have children). White political leaning is largely an urban/rural thing or otherwise regional (VT and NH are where even rural whites are leftists).

    The question is, do blacks grow progressive with age with their failed family-formation?
     
    Again, overthinking it.

    Older blacks either remember Martin Luther King directly, or were close enough that they grew up among older blacks who remember the 60s well.

    I seem to recall that the George Jefferson character on television hated whites much like Archie Bunker hated all ethnics (including Polacks). But there was a crucial episode that described why George just hated white Americans. It was a flashback to his poor days in Harlem, and how he was friendly towards whites, but when Martin Luther King was assassinated, that changed him permanently. From that day on, he (wrongly) hated just about all American whites. This also explained why he didn't hate non-American whites for their race alone (such as Mr. Bentley or French or Russian people). Weazie could not bring herself to hate white people, though.

    It is possible that older blacks have this mentality for reasons like this.

    That said, only black men can ever be peeled away. Anyone who thinks black women will ever be anything other than Democrats is dreaming. They get the greatest per capita affirmative action free money and intangible freebies of ANY group in America. How many black women are govt. or HR people making $200K, where they might be waitresses in the free market if the AA factor of leviathan did not exist?

  20. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Based on all of the insanity coming from the globalist end, and the media, it does seem like they're trying to cover something. Based on all of the hate hoaxes and accusations of racism that doesn't exist, it's clear that they're kind of freaking out since they're ruining their credibility.

    Are Republicans better for blacks than Democrats? Perhaps yes, but I don't see Paul Ryan or tax cuts for the rich helping them either. What they need is either their own party, or a nationalist/anti immigration Republican (like Trump on paper).

    As an aside, I wonder if it has to do with how crazy most younger white liberals are. They really do treat blacks like their pet monkeys, while pretending to love the precious "POC". Older white liberals aren't the same way, so they might not rub the older blacks they interact with the wrong way.

    Alternatively, the staggeringly high Democrat-bent of older blacks is understandably difficult to sustain in an increasingly atomized age. This relatively higher support among younger blacks could be a sort of regression to the mean.

  21. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Politics aside, Trump lives the perceived lifestyle young black males fantasize about. Before Trump was president (and before Kanye West's support) black rappers would reference Trump in mostly positive terms. Trump does what he wants and doesn't apologize for it. This arrogance/high self confidence/whatever-you-want-to-call-it demonstrates a position of strength (we've all observed how apologies convey weakness and can make things worse for the issuer) and appeals to blacks' ZFG nature.

    In contrast, Ralph Northam has already proceeded with the inevitable apology orgy, which will do little but enrage his critics even further. We will never know, but it would be interesting to see his approval ratings among blacks before and after the yearbook was discovered, if he decided NOT to apologize.

    He thinks referencing Michael Jackson and putting up a social media cover photo of himself with POC kids will save him. It won’t. Sow what you reap.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    Come one man, that works for me every time!
    , @Audacious Epigone
    Whew, I really did it there, too. My wife is on a getaway weekend with two of her friends so I have all three kids. I haven't proofread anything as a consequence. That's my lame ass excuse. It won't happen again!
  22. @Charles Pewitt
    Candidate Trump was opposed to mass legal immigration and illegal immigration. Many Blacks ain't so happy about mass legal immigration and illegal immigration.

    Candidate Trump was opposed to endless, Neo-Conservative wars overseas. Many Blacks scratch their heads about all the emphasis on foreigners and foreign wars when we got problems right here in the USA.

    Trump is a New Yorker who has hobnobbed with plenty of Black celebrities.

    Black men like to watch Trump acting like he is tearing the joint down. The reality is that Trump was co-opted by the GOP ruling class rats right off the bat.

    Blacks might be reacting to Trump's rhetoric on immigration. Blacks might be highly skeptical of Trump, but they know that mass legal immigration and illegal immigration has harmed Black people.

    In my younger days, when I was cynical and sneaky, I used the adverse impact of mass legal immigration and illegal immigration on Black Americans to hammer George W Bush on immigration policy.

    Tweet from 2015:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/646799590084210688

    I wish blacks expressed more opposition to immigration, but I never see evidence of it beyond the anecdotal.

    • Replies: @iffen
    I wish blacks expressed more opposition to immigration, but I never see evidence of it beyond the anecdotal.


    You have to have a special quality to publically go against your group. Plus, it's not like you can count on the MSM to report on such people when they put on black commentators that say things like, "Being a Trump supporter is a provocation."
    , @PennTothal
    Maybe not widespread but some of that sentiment exists:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm7f9jvzTV0&feature=youtu.be
  23. @216
    The Covington struggle session was not prevented, it was only delayed.

    Judgement Day is inevitable

    https://twitter.com/docrocktex26/status/1091799404057628672

    Northam sowing what he so despicably reaped is a great development. If the message still isn’t clear, white men are completely expendable in the Democrat party. Planned Parenthood, which was celebrating Northam two days ago is now calling for him to resign. If Northam was black, the organization wouldn’t be, nor would the entire Dem establishment.

    If you’re an ambitious young person looking to get into politics, the Democrat party is a terrible prospect for white men. This can only be good for Republicans.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    I hate to go all pedantic on you people*, but you've got this sowing & reaping thing bass-ackwards, guys. I wouldn't feel the need to write, if this weren't the 2nd offense by our host. You "sow" the ground with seeds, and then you can "reap" up the crop later.

    If you want just as good an idiom, that may be particularly applicable, at least when fried, to the demographics discussed herein, let's just say Governor Northam's chickens have come home to roost. See, he lost his chickens with his cowardly talk and actions in support of the anarcho-tyranny laid down on the alt-right in Charlottesville. Those chickens found their way home to the ctrl-left establishment and have come to peck him, hopefully in the nads, for his actions at a party as a medical student years ago, around the time he was dissecting fetal chickens in the lab. It's all chickens, all the way down!


    .

    * No, actually, I pretty much enjoy it.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    To finally get serious this morning, I need to know what you mean by "Republicans" here, A.E.:

    This can only be good for Republicans.
     
    If you mean the Republican Party, sure, I agree. It'll bring in more politicians, some of whom may be just as left-wing and stupid as they come. It'll bring in more votes for the few politicians we like AND plenty of more voters for those other politicians we don't.

    It won't be good for conservative Republican voters, just as the exodus of those white voters from California to Texas ain't a good thing for Texas (or, more importantly, a much-smaller state population-wise, like Idaho and Montana - western Montana is crawling with Californicators).

    I'd rather the Bidens, Pelosies (the ones still alive), Feinsteins, Shumers, Northams, and all of them just STAY THE HELL IN THE D-SQUAD AND STICK IT OUT! Listen, guys, there's always Assistant , OK, Assistant TO, the Secretary of Commerce, Ambassador to East FuckisStan, or we'll find you something. You'll still be able to afford that McMansion in Virginia, well away from the ghetto, you have our word as Republicans.
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    The Democratic Party is the home of the deep state, shadow government, media and culture. It is funded by tech and financial sector oligarchs. Demographics also favor the Dems. The only hope for the Republicans is to jettison the fantasy-land libertarianism and market fundamentalism. Embrace populism and unmask the hideous globalists who enforce destabilizing diversity pogroms. And look beyond Trumpism, because while the Orange Man has a couple of positive policy programs -- trade and the border -- he is still a neocon tool. We are in a revolutionary cycle; the Republicans can use it to transition into something more relevant. In the end, however, both the Democrats and Republicans suck monkey dick.
  24. @dvorak

    Trump’s approval rating among blacks, by age
     
    Whites have a mirror-image graph. For whites, they grow conservative with age and with family-formation. (h/t Coulter)

    The question is, do blacks grow progressive with age with their failed family-formation? Or will this small number of black Trump supporters stay right as the age?

    Good question. If so, then credit is due the “Blexit” movement.

  25. @dvorak

    Trump’s approval rating among blacks, by age
     
    Whites have a mirror-image graph. For whites, they grow conservative with age and with family-formation. (h/t Coulter)

    The question is, do blacks grow progressive with age with their failed family-formation? Or will this small number of black Trump supporters stay right as the age?

    Whites have a mirror-image graph. For whites, they grow conservative with age and with family-formation. (h/t Coulter)

    If this were the case, there would not be so many 60 year old powerful white leftists (many of whom have children). White political leaning is largely an urban/rural thing or otherwise regional (VT and NH are where even rural whites are leftists).

    The question is, do blacks grow progressive with age with their failed family-formation?

    Again, overthinking it.

    Older blacks either remember Martin Luther King directly, or were close enough that they grew up among older blacks who remember the 60s well.

    I seem to recall that the George Jefferson character on television hated whites much like Archie Bunker hated all ethnics (including Polacks). But there was a crucial episode that described why George just hated white Americans. It was a flashback to his poor days in Harlem, and how he was friendly towards whites, but when Martin Luther King was assassinated, that changed him permanently. From that day on, he (wrongly) hated just about all American whites. This also explained why he didn’t hate non-American whites for their race alone (such as Mr. Bentley or French or Russian people). Weazie could not bring herself to hate white people, though.

    It is possible that older blacks have this mentality for reasons like this.

    That said, only black men can ever be peeled away. Anyone who thinks black women will ever be anything other than Democrats is dreaming. They get the greatest per capita affirmative action free money and intangible freebies of ANY group in America. How many black women are govt. or HR people making $200K, where they might be waitresses in the free market if the AA factor of leviathan did not exist?

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Very good post, Thomm, no matter who you are. Bringing in George and Weezie (you may have spelled it wrong) gives you great American credibility. I gotta say, I never saw that episode you mentioned, but that show and All in the Family, which it "spun off" from, were both a whole lot more honest, even with their agendas, than anything on TV now, if they even broach the topic of race at all.

    You are absolutely right that the black ladies are the most dependent or intertwined with the huge Feral Government. There are some hardworking black guys out there that eventually get a clue who is screwing them over, and will vote accordingly, if their tribalism doesn't just plain override.
  26. @Audacious Epigone
    I wish blacks expressed more opposition to immigration, but I never see evidence of it beyond the anecdotal.

    I wish blacks expressed more opposition to immigration, but I never see evidence of it beyond the anecdotal.

    You have to have a special quality to publically go against your group. Plus, it’s not like you can count on the MSM to report on such people when they put on black commentators that say things like, “Being a Trump supporter is a provocation.”

  27. @Audacious Epigone
    Northam sowing what he so despicably reaped is a great development. If the message still isn't clear, white men are completely expendable in the Democrat party. Planned Parenthood, which was celebrating Northam two days ago is now calling for him to resign. If Northam was black, the organization wouldn't be, nor would the entire Dem establishment.

    If you're an ambitious young person looking to get into politics, the Democrat party is a terrible prospect for white men. This can only be good for Republicans.

    I hate to go all pedantic on you people*, but you’ve got this sowing & reaping thing bass-ackwards, guys. I wouldn’t feel the need to write, if this weren’t the 2nd offense by our host. You “sow” the ground with seeds, and then you can “reap” up the crop later.

    If you want just as good an idiom, that may be particularly applicable, at least when fried, to the demographics discussed herein, let’s just say Governor Northam’s chickens have come home to roost. See, he lost his chickens with his cowardly talk and actions in support of the anarcho-tyranny laid down on the alt-right in Charlottesville. Those chickens found their way home to the ctrl-left establishment and have come to peck him, hopefully in the nads, for his actions at a party as a medical student years ago, around the time he was dissecting fetal chickens in the lab. It’s all chickens, all the way down!

    .

    * No, actually, I pretty much enjoy it.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Before someone gets all pedantic back on my ass, let me state that I do understand that one can't dissect a fetal chicken. It's that chicken and egg thing, which is another idiom. Chickens and eggs - what CAN'T they do?!
    , @Audacious Epigone
    Heh, I know the expression is "reap what you sow" so I don't have an excuse. Part of it is that the shorthand "reap, sow" doesn't really work because it insinuates reaping first and then sowing, but "sow, reap" doesn't easily call to mind the expression. I'll just write out "reap what you sow" from now on!
  28. @Achmed E. Newman
    I hate to go all pedantic on you people*, but you've got this sowing & reaping thing bass-ackwards, guys. I wouldn't feel the need to write, if this weren't the 2nd offense by our host. You "sow" the ground with seeds, and then you can "reap" up the crop later.

    If you want just as good an idiom, that may be particularly applicable, at least when fried, to the demographics discussed herein, let's just say Governor Northam's chickens have come home to roost. See, he lost his chickens with his cowardly talk and actions in support of the anarcho-tyranny laid down on the alt-right in Charlottesville. Those chickens found their way home to the ctrl-left establishment and have come to peck him, hopefully in the nads, for his actions at a party as a medical student years ago, around the time he was dissecting fetal chickens in the lab. It's all chickens, all the way down!


    .

    * No, actually, I pretty much enjoy it.

    Before someone gets all pedantic back on my ass, let me state that I do understand that one can’t dissect a fetal chicken. It’s that chicken and egg thing, which is another idiom. Chickens and eggs – what CAN’T they do?!

  29. @Thomm

    Whites have a mirror-image graph. For whites, they grow conservative with age and with family-formation. (h/t Coulter)
     
    If this were the case, there would not be so many 60 year old powerful white leftists (many of whom have children). White political leaning is largely an urban/rural thing or otherwise regional (VT and NH are where even rural whites are leftists).

    The question is, do blacks grow progressive with age with their failed family-formation?
     
    Again, overthinking it.

    Older blacks either remember Martin Luther King directly, or were close enough that they grew up among older blacks who remember the 60s well.

    I seem to recall that the George Jefferson character on television hated whites much like Archie Bunker hated all ethnics (including Polacks). But there was a crucial episode that described why George just hated white Americans. It was a flashback to his poor days in Harlem, and how he was friendly towards whites, but when Martin Luther King was assassinated, that changed him permanently. From that day on, he (wrongly) hated just about all American whites. This also explained why he didn't hate non-American whites for their race alone (such as Mr. Bentley or French or Russian people). Weazie could not bring herself to hate white people, though.

    It is possible that older blacks have this mentality for reasons like this.

    That said, only black men can ever be peeled away. Anyone who thinks black women will ever be anything other than Democrats is dreaming. They get the greatest per capita affirmative action free money and intangible freebies of ANY group in America. How many black women are govt. or HR people making $200K, where they might be waitresses in the free market if the AA factor of leviathan did not exist?

    Very good post, Thomm, no matter who you are. Bringing in George and Weezie (you may have spelled it wrong) gives you great American credibility. I gotta say, I never saw that episode you mentioned, but that show and All in the Family, which it “spun off” from, were both a whole lot more honest, even with their agendas, than anything on TV now, if they even broach the topic of race at all.

    You are absolutely right that the black ladies are the most dependent or intertwined with the huge Feral Government. There are some hardworking black guys out there that eventually get a clue who is screwing them over, and will vote accordingly, if their tribalism doesn’t just plain override.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    You know, now that I thought about it, we may both be wrong. It should be "Ouisey", right, as a nickname for Louise?
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    You know, now that I thought about it, we may both be wrong. It should be "Ouisey", right, as a nickname for Louise?
  30. @216
    One aspect about younger white liberals is that most of them grew up being a conscious minority. There's always frequent narrative about "racist evangelical relatives" that they "escaped from". It's why there's still continuous impetus given to "coming out", even though society has grown absurdly tolerant of deviant sexuality.

    Among Millennials and Zeds at large, liberals are the minority, but typically white liberals don't have their "own space" as this is ruthlessly criticized by the PeeOhCee they indicate are moral superiors. I don't think it is correct to use the label "pets". If anything white liberals are the pets of POC, who often comment that they need to be continuously discplined into better "allies".

    In raw economic terms, we aren't going to generate enough well-paying manufacturing/blue collar jobs to genuninely move millions of PeeOhCee to the other side of the ledger. So they have little interest in voting for the smaller government party. But there are ways in which the Dems are compromised with their slavish behavior towards Big Tech, which doesn't employ Non-Asian minorities in sizeable numbers.

    Yea the big source of cushy lifetime employment these days is not big corporations, it’s big universities. As far as POC are concerned these are an even better sinecure because many of the jobs can be specifically earmarked for people of diversity. Seems like this racket will permanently weld the POC bloc to the Democratic Party.

  31. @216
    The Covington struggle session was not prevented, it was only delayed.

    Judgement Day is inevitable

    https://twitter.com/docrocktex26/status/1091799404057628672

    From the linked speech where the Mayor of New Orleans obsequiously parrots the party line:

    “I just hope people listen like I did when my dear friend Wynton Marsalis helped me see the truth. Another friend asked me to consider these four monuments from the perspective of an African-American mother or father trying to explain to their fifth-grade daughter why Robert E. Lee sat atop of our city.

    Can you do it? Can you do it? Can you look into the eyes of this young girl and convince her that Robert E. Lee is there to encourage her? Do you think she will feel inspired and hopeful by that story? Do these monuments help her see a future with limitless potential?”

    Political correctness turns your brain to mush. This is really the basis for deciding what historical monuments should be razed to the ground? What if not all of history is designed to help you see a future of limitless potential? I suppose that history should be changed.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    Sigh. The story of Robert E. Is capable of inspiring so many good stories, even if you are talking to a Black girl. Presuming the Black girl hadn't been primed from a young age to react with reflexive outrage at any mention of the Confederacy more nuanced than "Slavery bad. Confederacy evil."
    , @Oleaginous Outrager

    Can you do it? Can you do it? Can you look into the eyes of this young girl and convince her that Robert E. Lee is there to encourage her? Do you think she will feel inspired and hopeful by that story? Do these monuments help her see a future with limitless potential?
     
    No I couldn't, because I'm nowhere near good enough a liar as to make anyone believe in idiotic blather like 'a future with limitless potential'.
  32. @Audacious Epigone
    Northam sowing what he so despicably reaped is a great development. If the message still isn't clear, white men are completely expendable in the Democrat party. Planned Parenthood, which was celebrating Northam two days ago is now calling for him to resign. If Northam was black, the organization wouldn't be, nor would the entire Dem establishment.

    If you're an ambitious young person looking to get into politics, the Democrat party is a terrible prospect for white men. This can only be good for Republicans.

    To finally get serious this morning, I need to know what you mean by “Republicans” here, A.E.:

    This can only be good for Republicans.

    If you mean the Republican Party, sure, I agree. It’ll bring in more politicians, some of whom may be just as left-wing and stupid as they come. It’ll bring in more votes for the few politicians we like AND plenty of more voters for those other politicians we don’t.

    It won’t be good for conservative Republican voters, just as the exodus of those white voters from California to Texas ain’t a good thing for Texas (or, more importantly, a much-smaller state population-wise, like Idaho and Montana – western Montana is crawling with Californicators).

    I’d rather the Bidens, Pelosies (the ones still alive), Feinsteins, Shumers, Northams, and all of them just STAY THE HELL IN THE D-SQUAD AND STICK IT OUT! Listen, guys, there’s always Assistant , OK, Assistant TO, the Secretary of Commerce, Ambassador to East FuckisStan, or we’ll find you something. You’ll still be able to afford that McMansion in Virginia, well away from the ghetto, you have our word as Republicans.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Being distinctly middlebrow, I appreciate The Office reference.

    When whites become not only a numerical minority but also an electoral minority--to follow about ten years after numerical minority status--ending internecine fighting among whites will have to be the top priority. Don't ask me how it will work, exactly, but we will have to figure it out or we really are screwed.
  33. @Achmed E. Newman
    Very good post, Thomm, no matter who you are. Bringing in George and Weezie (you may have spelled it wrong) gives you great American credibility. I gotta say, I never saw that episode you mentioned, but that show and All in the Family, which it "spun off" from, were both a whole lot more honest, even with their agendas, than anything on TV now, if they even broach the topic of race at all.

    You are absolutely right that the black ladies are the most dependent or intertwined with the huge Feral Government. There are some hardworking black guys out there that eventually get a clue who is screwing them over, and will vote accordingly, if their tribalism doesn't just plain override.

    You know, now that I thought about it, we may both be wrong. It should be “Ouisey”, right, as a nickname for Louise?

  34. @Achmed E. Newman
    Very good post, Thomm, no matter who you are. Bringing in George and Weezie (you may have spelled it wrong) gives you great American credibility. I gotta say, I never saw that episode you mentioned, but that show and All in the Family, which it "spun off" from, were both a whole lot more honest, even with their agendas, than anything on TV now, if they even broach the topic of race at all.

    You are absolutely right that the black ladies are the most dependent or intertwined with the huge Feral Government. There are some hardworking black guys out there that eventually get a clue who is screwing them over, and will vote accordingly, if their tribalism doesn't just plain override.

    You know, now that I thought about it, we may both be wrong. It should be “Ouisey”, right, as a nickname for Louise?

  35. @Audacious Epigone
    He thinks referencing Michael Jackson and putting up a social media cover photo of himself with POC kids will save him. It won't. Sow what you reap.

    Come one man, that works for me every time!

  36. @Achmed E. Newman
    I hate to go all pedantic on you people*, but you've got this sowing & reaping thing bass-ackwards, guys. I wouldn't feel the need to write, if this weren't the 2nd offense by our host. You "sow" the ground with seeds, and then you can "reap" up the crop later.

    If you want just as good an idiom, that may be particularly applicable, at least when fried, to the demographics discussed herein, let's just say Governor Northam's chickens have come home to roost. See, he lost his chickens with his cowardly talk and actions in support of the anarcho-tyranny laid down on the alt-right in Charlottesville. Those chickens found their way home to the ctrl-left establishment and have come to peck him, hopefully in the nads, for his actions at a party as a medical student years ago, around the time he was dissecting fetal chickens in the lab. It's all chickens, all the way down!


    .

    * No, actually, I pretty much enjoy it.

    Heh, I know the expression is “reap what you sow” so I don’t have an excuse. Part of it is that the shorthand “reap, sow” doesn’t really work because it insinuates reaping first and then sowing, but “sow, reap” doesn’t easily call to mind the expression. I’ll just write out “reap what you sow” from now on!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I’ll just write out “reap what you sow” from now on!
     
    So let it be tweeted, so let it be done!
  37. @Achmed E. Newman
    To finally get serious this morning, I need to know what you mean by "Republicans" here, A.E.:

    This can only be good for Republicans.
     
    If you mean the Republican Party, sure, I agree. It'll bring in more politicians, some of whom may be just as left-wing and stupid as they come. It'll bring in more votes for the few politicians we like AND plenty of more voters for those other politicians we don't.

    It won't be good for conservative Republican voters, just as the exodus of those white voters from California to Texas ain't a good thing for Texas (or, more importantly, a much-smaller state population-wise, like Idaho and Montana - western Montana is crawling with Californicators).

    I'd rather the Bidens, Pelosies (the ones still alive), Feinsteins, Shumers, Northams, and all of them just STAY THE HELL IN THE D-SQUAD AND STICK IT OUT! Listen, guys, there's always Assistant , OK, Assistant TO, the Secretary of Commerce, Ambassador to East FuckisStan, or we'll find you something. You'll still be able to afford that McMansion in Virginia, well away from the ghetto, you have our word as Republicans.

    Being distinctly middlebrow, I appreciate The Office reference.

    When whites become not only a numerical minority but also an electoral minority–to follow about ten years after numerical minority status–ending internecine fighting among whites will have to be the top priority. Don’t ask me how it will work, exactly, but we will have to figure it out or we really are screwed.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2

    Being distinctly middlebrow, I appreciate The Office reference.
     
    The Office UK?
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    I would put The Office top of all TV shows I've ever watched, with Seinfeld second. However, this comes from a guy who hasn't had cable TV since the late 90's, and our over-the-air digital antenna rots up by the chimney unused. It doesn't look melted, but, again, I don't care.

    You seem to agree with me, from what I've read, A.E., that we are in for some serious financial turmoil. I think that is when things will get real and the stupidity will stop (including on the part of the white SJW's).
  38. @Audacious Epigone
    He thinks referencing Michael Jackson and putting up a social media cover photo of himself with POC kids will save him. It won't. Sow what you reap.

    Whew, I really did it there, too. My wife is on a getaway weekend with two of her friends so I have all three kids. I haven’t proofread anything as a consequence. That’s my lame ass excuse. It won’t happen again!

    • LOL: Mr McKenna
  39. @415 reasons
    From the linked speech where the Mayor of New Orleans obsequiously parrots the party line:

    “I just hope people listen like I did when my dear friend Wynton Marsalis helped me see the truth. Another friend asked me to consider these four monuments from the perspective of an African-American mother or father trying to explain to their fifth-grade daughter why Robert E. Lee sat atop of our city.

    Can you do it? Can you do it? Can you look into the eyes of this young girl and convince her that Robert E. Lee is there to encourage her? Do you think she will feel inspired and hopeful by that story? Do these monuments help her see a future with limitless potential?”

    Political correctness turns your brain to mush. This is really the basis for deciding what historical monuments should be razed to the ground? What if not all of history is designed to help you see a future of limitless potential? I suppose that history should be changed.

    Sigh. The story of Robert E. Is capable of inspiring so many good stories, even if you are talking to a Black girl. Presuming the Black girl hadn’t been primed from a young age to react with reflexive outrage at any mention of the Confederacy more nuanced than “Slavery bad. Confederacy evil.”

  40. @Audacious Epigone
    Being distinctly middlebrow, I appreciate The Office reference.

    When whites become not only a numerical minority but also an electoral minority--to follow about ten years after numerical minority status--ending internecine fighting among whites will have to be the top priority. Don't ask me how it will work, exactly, but we will have to figure it out or we really are screwed.

    Being distinctly middlebrow, I appreciate The Office reference.

    The Office UK?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Tyrion, I got DVDs ripped/burned in China for $2 of the first four seasons. The first season was the British show. I don't think the Chinawoman who sold them knows the difference at all, even if I were to go back to China, to that same street corner and demand my 50 cents back ! ;-}

    I imagine you'd see it otherwise, but, though Ricky Gervais is a very funny guy, the American show beats all hell out of the English show ... for me. Now, I will admit that the character types were taken about straight off of the English show.
  41. @Audacious Epigone
    Northam sowing what he so despicably reaped is a great development. If the message still isn't clear, white men are completely expendable in the Democrat party. Planned Parenthood, which was celebrating Northam two days ago is now calling for him to resign. If Northam was black, the organization wouldn't be, nor would the entire Dem establishment.

    If you're an ambitious young person looking to get into politics, the Democrat party is a terrible prospect for white men. This can only be good for Republicans.

    The Democratic Party is the home of the deep state, shadow government, media and culture. It is funded by tech and financial sector oligarchs. Demographics also favor the Dems. The only hope for the Republicans is to jettison the fantasy-land libertarianism and market fundamentalism. Embrace populism and unmask the hideous globalists who enforce destabilizing diversity pogroms. And look beyond Trumpism, because while the Orange Man has a couple of positive policy programs — trade and the border — he is still a neocon tool. We are in a revolutionary cycle; the Republicans can use it to transition into something more relevant. In the end, however, both the Democrats and Republicans suck monkey dick.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Beyond the uncertainty about what they do or do not suck, no argument from me!

    My point was specifically with regards to career advancement, though.
  42. Ouch

    GenX in particular

    Sorry Mr. Shapiro, feelings don’t care about your facts.

    • Replies: @216
    How much do you think the female trend is due to:

    -later marriages
    -increased sexual deviance
    -student debt

    And how much is accountable to:
    -Boomer misogyny
    -Trump's personal off-putting nature

    Obvious to us, women should not be voting at all. But we don't live in Redstan (yet) so we have to think of solutions to get the Dem edge reduced.
  43. @216
    No he was never conservative at all

    https://twitter.com/EvanMcMullin/status/1091806556839120897

    And the few replies that McMuffin gets are still rapping him on the knuckles for not cucking harder.

    We are dealing with an enemy that denies us a right to exist.

    “We are dealing with an enemy that denies us a right to exist.”

    And this enemy is well-funded and believes it has destiny by its side. White folk need to wake up to this unpleasant reality.

    • Replies: @216
    Yup

    https://twitter.com/OctaveFilms/status/1092161230280769543

    Permanent revolution right there, so odd of a leftist to actually spell it out.
  44. @216
    Ouch

    GenX in particular

    https://twitter.com/pewresearch/status/1091876428189192192

    Sorry Mr. Shapiro, feelings don't care about your facts.

    How much do you think the female trend is due to:

    -later marriages
    -increased sexual deviance
    -student debt

    And how much is accountable to:
    -Boomer misogyny
    -Trump’s personal off-putting nature

    Obvious to us, women should not be voting at all. But we don’t live in Redstan (yet) so we have to think of solutions to get the Dem edge reduced.

  45. Why is this of any interest to you whatsoever?

  46. @Tyrion 2

    Being distinctly middlebrow, I appreciate The Office reference.
     
    The Office UK?

    Tyrion, I got DVDs ripped/burned in China for $2 of the first four seasons. The first season was the British show. I don’t think the Chinawoman who sold them knows the difference at all, even if I were to go back to China, to that same street corner and demand my 50 cents back ! ;-}

    I imagine you’d see it otherwise, but, though Ricky Gervais is a very funny guy, the American show beats all hell out of the English show … for me. Now, I will admit that the character types were taken about straight off of the English show.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    The British show is tightly-written and painfully awkward. The American show is easy, breezy and quite funny. There's a lot of snobbery in the UK as regards the American one, partly on the above basis and partly as reflexive anti-Americanism - like disliking the New England Patriots or whatever. I have to say though that there is something about 2 series of 6 episodes and a Christmas special (plus long after follow-up) for maintaining integrity. Then again, perhaps TV comedies don't need po-faced artistic integrity.
  47. @Audacious Epigone
    Being distinctly middlebrow, I appreciate The Office reference.

    When whites become not only a numerical minority but also an electoral minority--to follow about ten years after numerical minority status--ending internecine fighting among whites will have to be the top priority. Don't ask me how it will work, exactly, but we will have to figure it out or we really are screwed.

    I would put The Office top of all TV shows I’ve ever watched, with Seinfeld second. However, this comes from a guy who hasn’t had cable TV since the late 90’s, and our over-the-air digital antenna rots up by the chimney unused. It doesn’t look melted, but, again, I don’t care.

    You seem to agree with me, from what I’ve read, A.E., that we are in for some serious financial turmoil. I think that is when things will get real and the stupidity will stop (including on the part of the white SJW’s).

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  48. @Audacious Epigone
    Heh, I know the expression is "reap what you sow" so I don't have an excuse. Part of it is that the shorthand "reap, sow" doesn't really work because it insinuates reaping first and then sowing, but "sow, reap" doesn't easily call to mind the expression. I'll just write out "reap what you sow" from now on!

    I’ll just write out “reap what you sow” from now on!

    So let it be tweeted, so let it be done!

  49. Other than the Charles Blow types, I don’t think many Black men really like the anti-male toxic masculinity narrative spewed by the Democratic party. Isn’t it a turn off for any man — Black or not — with an ounce of pride? The vibrations Trump sends out definitely work against this. Maybe this accounts for some of the Trump support.

    Or maybe it’s the Black Gen-Z wave coming in??? Some Blacks will go extreme anti-White and some (probably a smaller amount unfortunately) will hop on the Trump train and similar. But no more middle ground for the youth.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  50. @Achmed E. Newman
    Tyrion, I got DVDs ripped/burned in China for $2 of the first four seasons. The first season was the British show. I don't think the Chinawoman who sold them knows the difference at all, even if I were to go back to China, to that same street corner and demand my 50 cents back ! ;-}

    I imagine you'd see it otherwise, but, though Ricky Gervais is a very funny guy, the American show beats all hell out of the English show ... for me. Now, I will admit that the character types were taken about straight off of the English show.

    The British show is tightly-written and painfully awkward. The American show is easy, breezy and quite funny. There’s a lot of snobbery in the UK as regards the American one, partly on the above basis and partly as reflexive anti-Americanism – like disliking the New England Patriots or whatever. I have to say though that there is something about 2 series of 6 episodes and a Christmas special (plus long after follow-up) for maintaining integrity. Then again, perhaps TV comedies don’t need po-faced artistic integrity.

  51. @SunBakedSuburb
    "We are dealing with an enemy that denies us a right to exist."

    And this enemy is well-funded and believes it has destiny by its side. White folk need to wake up to this unpleasant reality.

    Yup

    Permanent revolution right there, so odd of a leftist to actually spell it out.

  52. millennial woman shift towards democrats:

    1) lower marriage rate, higher divorce rate
    2) more women in college now than men
    3) women more conformist, more susceptible to conditioning

    they absorb everything the cultural marxists lecture them on in school, then don’t get married until their 30s, if ever.

    yes, aside from the usual qualifications. most women should not be voting, and so forth.

    amicable compromise: anybody who paid property tax for x amount of the previous years can vote. that way, the enterprise is open to anybody with the wherewithal to own property, and only people with skin in the game get a say. yet it still eliminates most of the vibrant and over half the women from getting free loader decision making. which they never, ever should have had.

    again, the US in 1800 or so, was the actual most progressive nation in history in terms of political thinking. 2000 years of experience on how humans govern themselves, then nailing things almost exactly, for how germanic people should most effectively, most efficiently govern themselves.

    then again, they’d consider even the idea of property tax to be insulting. so maybe the qualification should be land owners, specifically. oh wait. that’s exactly how they did it.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  53. @Peripatetic Commenter
    The real question is how will they vote on the only poll that really matters.

    I think they will do what Lee Kwan Yew says and vote on racial lines, no matter how much better off they are under Trump.

    However, it looks like it might not matter, given the recent lesson for whites from the Non-White Party.

    “I think they will do what Lee Kwan Yew says and vote on racial lines, no matter how much better off they are under Trump.”

    Suppose the non-White party nominates Uncle Joe, Bernie, or … God help us … Madame Clinton: Do any of them qualify for garnering more votes along racial lines, or will Trump be able to peel off enough to make a difference? For that matter, can anyone say the half-Tamil half-Jamaican Kamala Harris is worthy, given the lack of slave blood? Is Cory perhaps too suspect as a confirmed bachelor to get the votes of the notoriously homosceptical ‘hood?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    Obama didn't have slave blood either and yet ultimately Blacks supported him en masse in the 2008 Dem primaries. Granted, though, Obama was helped as a result of being patronized by Bill Clinton and by the fact that he has a Black wife. In contrast, Kamala's husband is Jewish and White.

    As for the homophobic hood and Cory Booker, this shouldn't be much of a problem. After all, Black boys from the hood often play football and end up smacking each other's asses and saying "Yeah! Yeah! Nice job! Nice job!" Indeed, that's as close to gay as one can be without actually being gay.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    Obama didn't have any slavery bona fides, either. It doesn't matter. Hell, most people--blacks and non-blacks--probably don't know whether he does or not.
  54. in 2016 trump got about 15 % of the black male vote, but only about 5 % of black females . among black males overall those who are married, veterans or college graduates are more likely to vote for the GOP

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    Given the number of black males in prison, 15% isn't too much of a stretch.
  55. @eli
    in 2016 trump got about 15 % of the black male vote, but only about 5 % of black females . among black males overall those who are married, veterans or college graduates are more likely to vote for the GOP

    Given the number of black males in prison, 15% isn’t too much of a stretch.

  56. Anonymous[972] • Disclaimer says:

    Don’t you ever submit these dubious polls to any basic bullshit test when you read them? We already are seeing the Gen Z is not the reactionary generation you claimed they were in 2016). If the results of a single poll or study fly in the face of common sense, we should be very skeptical.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Where did I claim Gen Z was reactionary? I shared the data on the Hispanic Heritage Foundation's survey and speculated that Trump's ZFG alpha male personality and Hillary Clinton's lesbian vinegar-drinking scold pantsuit combined in perfect combination to allow Trump to dominate high school polling among white men (or boys). I've never claimed Gen Z is socially conservative at all--they're not. They are pretty libertarian on things like guns and faggotry, but not socially conservative let alone "reactionary".
  57. anon[354] • Disclaimer says:

    “ending internecine fighting among whites will have to be the top priority.”

    Unfortunately, that is very unlikely to happen as precedent has shown. Whites is South Africa after Apartheid 1. fled (about a million left) 2. self-segregated into pathetic hovels on the fringes of society, pleading with authorities not to abuse them 3. actively betrayed their race and now live in walled mansions with sophisticated security systems. You could draw a similar parallel with Rhodesia or even look to history and draw comparisons with the Roman Empire. What is most likely to occur is that those whites who are brave enough and able enough will flee to Asia and Europe as the rest stay and repeat South Africa’s example: some will hunker down and plead with authorities while others at the top actively participate in oppressing their own people to curry favor with the Ruling Class.

    Whites are analogous to a native creature being dispossessed by an invasive and rapidly expanding, aggressive and superior competitor species; the Americanized honey bee vs. the European honey bee is a good comparison. The African bee is more aggressive, consumes more resources and it is more willing to fight and die in larger numbers while maturing earlier. In the same ecological niche, the milder European bee cannot compete and is either replaced outright or interbred with African traits predominating. Similarly, whites evolved under a set of conditions that are no longer optimal now that geographic barriers to competition have been removed. Although, the end result for whites will be somewhat better than the weak European honeybee’s fate: white liberals will be bred out of the population over time while the conservative whites who remain will live on as a hated and oppressed minority, all while civilizational norms around them collapse; goodbye traditions of free speech and assembly and competent government and national unity and meritocracy and non-police state rule….

    At this point, only something very unlikely can save whites as they are now. Perhaps a Caesar or an Augustus will arise and seize power (very unlikely) or Europe will hang on long enough to breed out self-hating liberals, putting nationalists in charge permanently (probably not). Regardless, I think the United States is finished at this point; it’s just a matter of time now. It resembles the Western Roman Empire with all the invasions, mismanagement, instabilities, political intrigues, displacement of the native culture, and myriad financial problems. Probably the best bet for whites is to consider fleeing overseas. If any Western European nation opened up its borders to white Americans while letting them continue to speak English, I would leave in a heartbeat. Convincing the EU to do this might be the only hope for American whites, although this will be difficult as many white Americans have some small amount of non-European admixture (95% cutoff?).

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    You would need an extremely massive flood of Non-Whites to overwhelm US Whites, though. There are only something like five million Whites in South Africa in comparison to something like two hundred million Whites in the U.S.
    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    white liberals will be bred out of the population over time while the conservative whites who remain will live on as a hated and oppressed minority
     
    Ideally, eventually white conservatives will be the only whites left, and the white population will finally start growing again.

    Even then, the number of "white conservatives" at this point will be severely diminished from the current number of whites (maybe halved) - and would easily be genocided by the billions of Africans and South Asians.

    The only hope I see is a) famine/disease in the 3rd world (entirely possible once the white liberals are gone) or b) some kind of Christendom comes and saves whites ie. the Catholic Phillippines etc. save their fellow Christians.

    I do suspect that the white population will eventually be genocided, though. Frankly there are just too many weak white people, especially liberals around. And even then most conservatives are Christians who wouldn't hurt a fly, despite the media portrayals.
  58. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Based on all of the insanity coming from the globalist end, and the media, it does seem like they're trying to cover something. Based on all of the hate hoaxes and accusations of racism that doesn't exist, it's clear that they're kind of freaking out since they're ruining their credibility.

    Are Republicans better for blacks than Democrats? Perhaps yes, but I don't see Paul Ryan or tax cuts for the rich helping them either. What they need is either their own party, or a nationalist/anti immigration Republican (like Trump on paper).

    As an aside, I wonder if it has to do with how crazy most younger white liberals are. They really do treat blacks like their pet monkeys, while pretending to love the precious "POC". Older white liberals aren't the same way, so they might not rub the older blacks they interact with the wrong way.

    It’s possible that older Blacks have fond memories of the role that liberals played in the Civil Rights Movement back in the 1950s and beyond. Younger Blacks who don’t remember the CRM don’t have such memories.

    Also, Yes, tax cuts for the rich and corporate whoring isn’t exactly going to endear Republicans to Blacks. Indeed, it would be perfectly rational for Blacks to assume that more immigration and a generous social safety net is better than corporate whoring and a less generous social safety net.

  59. @The Alarmist

    "I think they will do what Lee Kwan Yew says and vote on racial lines, no matter how much better off they are under Trump."
     
    Suppose the non-White party nominates Uncle Joe, Bernie, or ... God help us ... Madame Clinton: Do any of them qualify for garnering more votes along racial lines, or will Trump be able to peel off enough to make a difference? For that matter, can anyone say the half-Tamil half-Jamaican Kamala Harris is worthy, given the lack of slave blood? Is Cory perhaps too suspect as a confirmed bachelor to get the votes of the notoriously homosceptical 'hood?

    Obama didn’t have slave blood either and yet ultimately Blacks supported him en masse in the 2008 Dem primaries. Granted, though, Obama was helped as a result of being patronized by Bill Clinton and by the fact that he has a Black wife. In contrast, Kamala’s husband is Jewish and White.

    As for the homophobic hood and Cory Booker, this shouldn’t be much of a problem. After all, Black boys from the hood often play football and end up smacking each other’s asses and saying “Yeah! Yeah! Nice job! Nice job!” Indeed, that’s as close to gay as one can be without actually being gay.

    • Replies: @216

    Obama didn’t have slave blood either and yet ultimately Blacks supported him en masse in the 2008 Dem primaries
     
    Barack doesn't, but Michelle does. If he'd married one of the white women he was with at Columbia, and stayed in New York; he might well have become a more sucessful Cory Booker or perhaps just a Lester Holt.

    Harris is:

    From California, a state generally envied or disliked by most Americans, no major candidate has emerged from CA since Jerry Brown in '92.

    Married to conveinence to a Jewish man with step-children. This reminds one of Macron.

    A prosecutor, and a fairly willing Drug Warrior.

    On Booker:

    Black male hyper-masculinity is increasingly found in the past rather than the present. Higher obesity rates, single/divorced mothers, and increased levels of political correctness. We're at a point where alpha dog LeBron James is openly describing himself as a feminist.

    Booker is weak because he's a neoliberal shill, a poor fit for an increasingly socialist party among the youth and the remaining whites.
    , @anonymous
    Closer than noticing?
  60. @anon
    "ending internecine fighting among whites will have to be the top priority."

    Unfortunately, that is very unlikely to happen as precedent has shown. Whites is South Africa after Apartheid 1. fled (about a million left) 2. self-segregated into pathetic hovels on the fringes of society, pleading with authorities not to abuse them 3. actively betrayed their race and now live in walled mansions with sophisticated security systems. You could draw a similar parallel with Rhodesia or even look to history and draw comparisons with the Roman Empire. What is most likely to occur is that those whites who are brave enough and able enough will flee to Asia and Europe as the rest stay and repeat South Africa's example: some will hunker down and plead with authorities while others at the top actively participate in oppressing their own people to curry favor with the Ruling Class.

    Whites are analogous to a native creature being dispossessed by an invasive and rapidly expanding, aggressive and superior competitor species; the Americanized honey bee vs. the European honey bee is a good comparison. The African bee is more aggressive, consumes more resources and it is more willing to fight and die in larger numbers while maturing earlier. In the same ecological niche, the milder European bee cannot compete and is either replaced outright or interbred with African traits predominating. Similarly, whites evolved under a set of conditions that are no longer optimal now that geographic barriers to competition have been removed. Although, the end result for whites will be somewhat better than the weak European honeybee's fate: white liberals will be bred out of the population over time while the conservative whites who remain will live on as a hated and oppressed minority, all while civilizational norms around them collapse; goodbye traditions of free speech and assembly and competent government and national unity and meritocracy and non-police state rule....

    At this point, only something very unlikely can save whites as they are now. Perhaps a Caesar or an Augustus will arise and seize power (very unlikely) or Europe will hang on long enough to breed out self-hating liberals, putting nationalists in charge permanently (probably not). Regardless, I think the United States is finished at this point; it's just a matter of time now. It resembles the Western Roman Empire with all the invasions, mismanagement, instabilities, political intrigues, displacement of the native culture, and myriad financial problems. Probably the best bet for whites is to consider fleeing overseas. If any Western European nation opened up its borders to white Americans while letting them continue to speak English, I would leave in a heartbeat. Convincing the EU to do this might be the only hope for American whites, although this will be difficult as many white Americans have some small amount of non-European admixture (95% cutoff?).

    You would need an extremely massive flood of Non-Whites to overwhelm US Whites, though. There are only something like five million Whites in South Africa in comparison to something like two hundred million Whites in the U.S.

  61. @Mr. XYZ
    Obama didn't have slave blood either and yet ultimately Blacks supported him en masse in the 2008 Dem primaries. Granted, though, Obama was helped as a result of being patronized by Bill Clinton and by the fact that he has a Black wife. In contrast, Kamala's husband is Jewish and White.

    As for the homophobic hood and Cory Booker, this shouldn't be much of a problem. After all, Black boys from the hood often play football and end up smacking each other's asses and saying "Yeah! Yeah! Nice job! Nice job!" Indeed, that's as close to gay as one can be without actually being gay.

    Obama didn’t have slave blood either and yet ultimately Blacks supported him en masse in the 2008 Dem primaries

    Barack doesn’t, but Michelle does. If he’d married one of the white women he was with at Columbia, and stayed in New York; he might well have become a more sucessful Cory Booker or perhaps just a Lester Holt.

    Harris is:

    From California, a state generally envied or disliked by most Americans, no major candidate has emerged from CA since Jerry Brown in ’92.

    Married to conveinence to a Jewish man with step-children. This reminds one of Macron.

    A prosecutor, and a fairly willing Drug Warrior.

    On Booker:

    Black male hyper-masculinity is increasingly found in the past rather than the present. Higher obesity rates, single/divorced mothers, and increased levels of political correctness. We’re at a point where alpha dog LeBron James is openly describing himself as a feminist.

    Booker is weak because he’s a neoliberal shill, a poor fit for an increasingly socialist party among the youth and the remaining whites.

  62. Are Republicans better for blacks than Democrats?

    What good are either of them for any of us?

  63. @415 reasons
    From the linked speech where the Mayor of New Orleans obsequiously parrots the party line:

    “I just hope people listen like I did when my dear friend Wynton Marsalis helped me see the truth. Another friend asked me to consider these four monuments from the perspective of an African-American mother or father trying to explain to their fifth-grade daughter why Robert E. Lee sat atop of our city.

    Can you do it? Can you do it? Can you look into the eyes of this young girl and convince her that Robert E. Lee is there to encourage her? Do you think she will feel inspired and hopeful by that story? Do these monuments help her see a future with limitless potential?”

    Political correctness turns your brain to mush. This is really the basis for deciding what historical monuments should be razed to the ground? What if not all of history is designed to help you see a future of limitless potential? I suppose that history should be changed.

    Can you do it? Can you do it? Can you look into the eyes of this young girl and convince her that Robert E. Lee is there to encourage her? Do you think she will feel inspired and hopeful by that story? Do these monuments help her see a future with limitless potential?

    No I couldn’t, because I’m nowhere near good enough a liar as to make anyone believe in idiotic blather like ‘a future with limitless potential’.

  64. For some people, hating white liberals is not mutually exclusive with hating Republicans. This is probably because white SJWs are insufferable vermin. You can get along with minorities who have different views, because it’s not like a religion for most of us. Not the case with white liberals. I’ve lived and worked with them for over a decade and there’s not a single one I’d miss. If there is a demographic shift, I’d love to see liberal whiteness diluted, their population replaced, and their identity permanently erased.

  65. @anon
    "ending internecine fighting among whites will have to be the top priority."

    Unfortunately, that is very unlikely to happen as precedent has shown. Whites is South Africa after Apartheid 1. fled (about a million left) 2. self-segregated into pathetic hovels on the fringes of society, pleading with authorities not to abuse them 3. actively betrayed their race and now live in walled mansions with sophisticated security systems. You could draw a similar parallel with Rhodesia or even look to history and draw comparisons with the Roman Empire. What is most likely to occur is that those whites who are brave enough and able enough will flee to Asia and Europe as the rest stay and repeat South Africa's example: some will hunker down and plead with authorities while others at the top actively participate in oppressing their own people to curry favor with the Ruling Class.

    Whites are analogous to a native creature being dispossessed by an invasive and rapidly expanding, aggressive and superior competitor species; the Americanized honey bee vs. the European honey bee is a good comparison. The African bee is more aggressive, consumes more resources and it is more willing to fight and die in larger numbers while maturing earlier. In the same ecological niche, the milder European bee cannot compete and is either replaced outright or interbred with African traits predominating. Similarly, whites evolved under a set of conditions that are no longer optimal now that geographic barriers to competition have been removed. Although, the end result for whites will be somewhat better than the weak European honeybee's fate: white liberals will be bred out of the population over time while the conservative whites who remain will live on as a hated and oppressed minority, all while civilizational norms around them collapse; goodbye traditions of free speech and assembly and competent government and national unity and meritocracy and non-police state rule....

    At this point, only something very unlikely can save whites as they are now. Perhaps a Caesar or an Augustus will arise and seize power (very unlikely) or Europe will hang on long enough to breed out self-hating liberals, putting nationalists in charge permanently (probably not). Regardless, I think the United States is finished at this point; it's just a matter of time now. It resembles the Western Roman Empire with all the invasions, mismanagement, instabilities, political intrigues, displacement of the native culture, and myriad financial problems. Probably the best bet for whites is to consider fleeing overseas. If any Western European nation opened up its borders to white Americans while letting them continue to speak English, I would leave in a heartbeat. Convincing the EU to do this might be the only hope for American whites, although this will be difficult as many white Americans have some small amount of non-European admixture (95% cutoff?).

    white liberals will be bred out of the population over time while the conservative whites who remain will live on as a hated and oppressed minority

    Ideally, eventually white conservatives will be the only whites left, and the white population will finally start growing again.

    Even then, the number of “white conservatives” at this point will be severely diminished from the current number of whites (maybe halved) – and would easily be genocided by the billions of Africans and South Asians.

    The only hope I see is a) famine/disease in the 3rd world (entirely possible once the white liberals are gone) or b) some kind of Christendom comes and saves whites ie. the Catholic Phillippines etc. save their fellow Christians.

    I do suspect that the white population will eventually be genocided, though. Frankly there are just too many weak white people, especially liberals around. And even then most conservatives are Christians who wouldn’t hurt a fly, despite the media portrayals.

  66. @Mr. XYZ
    Obama didn't have slave blood either and yet ultimately Blacks supported him en masse in the 2008 Dem primaries. Granted, though, Obama was helped as a result of being patronized by Bill Clinton and by the fact that he has a Black wife. In contrast, Kamala's husband is Jewish and White.

    As for the homophobic hood and Cory Booker, this shouldn't be much of a problem. After all, Black boys from the hood often play football and end up smacking each other's asses and saying "Yeah! Yeah! Nice job! Nice job!" Indeed, that's as close to gay as one can be without actually being gay.

    Closer than noticing?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    Yes.
  67. @Audacious Epigone
    I wish blacks expressed more opposition to immigration, but I never see evidence of it beyond the anecdotal.

    Maybe not widespread but some of that sentiment exists:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm7f9jvzTV0&feature=youtu.be

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  68. @SunBakedSuburb
    The Democratic Party is the home of the deep state, shadow government, media and culture. It is funded by tech and financial sector oligarchs. Demographics also favor the Dems. The only hope for the Republicans is to jettison the fantasy-land libertarianism and market fundamentalism. Embrace populism and unmask the hideous globalists who enforce destabilizing diversity pogroms. And look beyond Trumpism, because while the Orange Man has a couple of positive policy programs -- trade and the border -- he is still a neocon tool. We are in a revolutionary cycle; the Republicans can use it to transition into something more relevant. In the end, however, both the Democrats and Republicans suck monkey dick.

    Beyond the uncertainty about what they do or do not suck, no argument from me!

    My point was specifically with regards to career advancement, though.

  69. @The Alarmist

    "I think they will do what Lee Kwan Yew says and vote on racial lines, no matter how much better off they are under Trump."
     
    Suppose the non-White party nominates Uncle Joe, Bernie, or ... God help us ... Madame Clinton: Do any of them qualify for garnering more votes along racial lines, or will Trump be able to peel off enough to make a difference? For that matter, can anyone say the half-Tamil half-Jamaican Kamala Harris is worthy, given the lack of slave blood? Is Cory perhaps too suspect as a confirmed bachelor to get the votes of the notoriously homosceptical 'hood?

    Obama didn’t have any slavery bona fides, either. It doesn’t matter. Hell, most people–blacks and non-blacks–probably don’t know whether he does or not.

  70. @Anonymous
    Don’t you ever submit these dubious polls to any basic bullshit test when you read them? We already are seeing the Gen Z is not the reactionary generation you claimed they were in 2016). If the results of a single poll or study fly in the face of common sense, we should be very skeptical.

    Where did I claim Gen Z was reactionary? I shared the data on the Hispanic Heritage Foundation’s survey and speculated that Trump’s ZFG alpha male personality and Hillary Clinton’s lesbian vinegar-drinking scold pantsuit combined in perfect combination to allow Trump to dominate high school polling among white men (or boys). I’ve never claimed Gen Z is socially conservative at all–they’re not. They are pretty libertarian on things like guns and faggotry, but not socially conservative let alone “reactionary”.

  71. @anonymous
    Closer than noticing?

    Yes.

  72. Never gonna happen. It is not just dominant black females “gibmedats” voting patterns. It runs much deeper. Trump does have, in some blacks’ eyes, attractive character traits. But, whichever his idiosyncrasies, he’s your da man, and Joe Sobran is, as ever, worth quoting:

  73. Fascinating. Like AE, I thought the notion was laughable. But the statistics can’t be denied.

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