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Grand Rapids, Michigan is about 64 percent white and 20 percent black. It’s a city of just under 200,000 people and one where it might soon be a criminal misdemeanor to call 9-1-1 on people of color…[Grand Rapids could make it illegal to call police on people of color for ‘participating in their lives’, MLive.com, April 20, 2019]:

Grand Rapids could soon have an ordinance that would make it a criminal misdemeanor to racially profile people of color for “participating in their lives.”

The “bias crime reporting prohibition” is one of a handful of adjustments that would be made to the city code as part of the proposed human rights ordinance. Other components include expanded protected class definitions, identifying four primary potential areas of discrimination, and an outline of the referral and compliance process.

Grand Rapids leaders could vote on the proposal next month, but not before city stakeholders have a chance to weigh in during a public hearing at the 7 p.m. Tuesday, April 23 commission meeting in the ninth-floor chambers of City Hall, 300 Monroe Ave. NW.

“We in the community have had various conversations over the last few years about disparities that exist in Grand Rapids,” said Jeremy DeRoo, executive director of the non-profit advocacy group LINC Up.

“The human rights ordinance provides the infrastructure so that all these issues have a backbone supporting and addressing them. It creates a way to address a broad range of problems and to correct them.”

In recent years, DeRoo said Grand Rapids police have been unnecessarily dispatched to situations due to 911 calls that were perhaps made due to implicit bias or discrimination. He cited a summer 2017 gathering in Mulick Park in which police were called to break up a large gathering of African American community members. Multiple patrol vehicles were sent to the park before it was determined that it was a graduation party.

“Often times, the Grand Rapids Police Department ends up being caught in the middle of what is a bigger community problem,” DeRoo said. “They look bad because they approach individuals who are people of color, and it appears the police department is biased when really they’re responding to phone calls made by the community and it appears that a number of those are motivated by people in a discriminatory way.”

DeRoo also pointed to an Oct. 9 incident in which police received a call from a woman who claimed she witnessed a shooting at her neighbor’s house. Police investigated the call, and in the process handcuffed a 12-year-old girl at gunpoint, before determining that there were no weapons or shooting victims on scene.

Diversity and Inclusion Manager Patti Caudill said the ordinance is a new concept in Michigan. It isn’t meant to discourage 911 calls, she said. Rather, it’s meant to make people “check their biases” before calling the police.

“Call the police, but if you’re calling because your neighbors are having a barbecue and you’re calling because of some implicit bias because they’re people of color, we don’t want to see that,” she said.

Caudill said the police department has given feedback on the proposed ordinance, but not in the form of “official written feedback.”

In July 2018, the Grand Rapids Community Relations Commission started discussing amendments to the civil rights/human rights ordinance, which was adopted by the city commission in 1953. The ordinance has gone through various changes over the last half-century, including protections for LGBTQ residents.

The proposed ordinance puts a prohibition on any person denying another individual the enjoyment of civil rights, or for any person to discriminate against an individual in the exercise of civil rights because of actual or perceived color, race, religion or creed, sex, gender, identity or expression, sexual orientation, national origin, genotype, age, marital status, medical condition, disability, height, weight, or source of lawful income.

There is no other to interpret this proposed ordinance than to deduce it would criminalize white people calling the police on blacks in Grand Rapids (or other people of color), in effect protecting black criminals by placing the burden of proof on the white caller for engaging in civil rights infringement if they dare call 9-1-1…

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Clown World.

 
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  1. So if people see a mob of “teens” gathering in a downtown area and suspect that a flash mob and rob (including the beating of pedestrians) is about to erupt and they call the police, what then? Do the police wait to see if the “teens” erupt into violence before they consider the threat to be real? Or do they pre-emptively arrest and charge the callers with a crime for noticing what’s about to erupt before it actually does? Do they release them and apologize if after the arrest the “teens” finally go on a rampage? Or do they claim, “WELL! Nothing was happening when YOU called so you’re guilty!”

    Sounds like people need to invest in cheap throw away phones and refuse to give their names when they call the cops on the “vibrants.” Either that or give a false name.

  2. Grand Rapids could soon have an ordinance that would make it a criminal misdemeanor to racially profile people of color for “participating in their lives.”

    This is insane.

    • Replies: @The Bland Enchilada
    "Racial Profiling" is an inflammatory phrase used to incite (ever bubbling beneath the surface) black violence.
    The physical "profile" of a criminal should include race.
  3. THREE THINGS: UNCONSTITUTIONAL + BAD POLICY

    + BLACKS COMMIT CRIMES EVEN AFTER EDUCATION AND STATUS, EG. JUDGE JEFFREY JOHNSON WHO ASSAULTS WHITE FEMALE JUDGES.

    This is bad policy, as it will cause crime to sky rocket. How is a person to know if the criminal is committing a crime.

    They tell people not to take the law into their own hands, and report crime immediately, but this is going backwards.

    And it is unconstitutional, as people have a right to report suspected crime, or when they feel they are in danger. It is a constitutionally protected right, under the first amendment, the right to petition govt. for redress of grievances.

    If they pass such a law, I hope people will sue and have it stricken by the courts.

    As I have mentioned, affirmative action is bad also because it helps blacks commit even more crime, in higher places.

    Eg. California African-American Judge Jeffrey Johnson sexually assaults/harasses fellow female white Judges for 20 years:

    http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/state-appeals-judge-is-accused-of-sexual-harassment-that-began-when-he-was-a-federal-magistrate

    Black Willie Brown, Kamala Devi (not) Harris’ customer, will represent him:

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/misconduct-case-against-la-appeals-052557005.html

  4. People have called the cops on me for no reason while I was traveling with some hippies through America, I’m white. I wish they hadn’t done that but the cost of preventing people from being able to call the police when they want may outweigh the benefits. Perhaps in some cases black people get the cops called on them for no reason, but there are cases when blacks are engaged in preparation for crime. And so the ability for non-blacks(and blacks!) to call the cops on black people does save peoples lives, has saved lives. I have been inconvenienced by cops before, others have too. It can be annoying, but taking away peoples right to call the police may result in people becoming victims of black crime. It’s not worth the potential price. Any white person supporting the proposal to restrict peoples right to call the cops is a mentally incompetent white person and should not be in a position of social authority.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  5. Way back in the 1960’s when LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act into law, I heard one of my aunts say, upon hearing the news, that one day the Negroes would be our masters and we would be their slaves. “It’s not OK to be White; it’s fantastic!”

  6. So who defined POC as blacks? Last I looked it was European stock who have twenty different hair colors n a dozen eye colors. Even our skin comes in a variety of shades. Europe has the greatest diversity of color of any population in the world. ‘White’ is a misleading n shallow stereotype. Europeans are the real POC while those with melanin are just dark.

    Send in the legal team n show that we European POC should be the ones protected under Michigan law.

  7. “Diversity and Inclusion Manager,” Patti Caudill. “Diversity and Inclusion Manager!?!”
    How much does that pay!!!???!!!

    I’m glad I don’t live in that insane asylum of a city, and that’s saying a lot considering I live in Chicago, where Blacks long ago took over all the parks and public places, and have gang-related shootings at gatherings in parks.

    Is there a degree in Diversity and Inclusion? I can hear it now, “What’s your major?
    Diversity and Inclusion? Wow girl, you must be smart!”

    Does anyone who thinks up these jobs know they’re stark raving looney? Does anyone ever try to tell them? I guess a PhD in Diversity and Inclusion should get someone a job giving massages at Barry’s Bathhouse, not an actual government job leeching off taxpayers. Definitely irredeemable!

    • Agree: Archie Bunker
    • Replies: @Mike_from_SGV
    "Diversity and Inclusion" is now a department in every university and corporation. It's one of those rent-seeking jobs that are magnets for dim people with useless degrees like Gender Studies. After all the white liberals die off and are no longer in power, D&I will probably disappear, since other groups are sane enough not to undermine the position of their own people.
    , @interesting
    “Diversity and Inclusion Manager,”

    IF you work at UCLA doing that it's about a $400K a year gig.......great work if you can get it.
  8. If this law were applied without bias, it would disproportionately affect women, and most likely “women of color”, the most.

    Black women call the cops on black men all the time. They set them up and knock them down like bowling pins. White women are a close second. They regularly call the cops on men for being men, boys for being boys, etc. Not, mind you, for harassment or other illegal activities, but merely to threaten and impose their will.

    In this weird world we live in, a lot of the social justice issues are in fact legitimate, but they are completely different from how they are portrayed. Take police shootings for example. The police have indeed been shooting too many people, but most of them turn out to be white men. Women do indeed call the cops on people for nothing at all, and again most of these people are white men.

    Cops shouldn’t be shooting so many people, and women shouldn’t be calling the cops so much, but the narrative presents this as a racial/gender justice issue, when it’s actually the opposite.

    Perhaps these issues gain traction because a lot of whites implicitly support them, thinking things like “maybe the cops shouldn’t have put 10 rounds into that schizophrenic guy who was swinging a stick around in his mother’s driveway while arguing with demons.” They may be presented as “white cop brutally murders 6’4″, 300 lb. black baby,” but that isn’t exactly what people have in mnd when they think of police brutality.

    I think people use the most convenient tool they can to fix a problem, and if the most convenient tool happens to be “racial justice,” then they’ll pick it up and use it. It’s unfortunate that we’re reduced to this stupid, blunt tool, but unless we find something better at hand that’s what we have to work with.

    So let’s be honest here and admit that overuse of police is indeed a problem, and it’s mostly a problem of women – very often “women of color” – using the police inappropriately.

  9. No, this ordinance would not criminalize white people calling the police on blacks in GR. Check your hysteria, Paul. I’m sure the police are genuinely put off about called-in hyped-up suspicions that end up making them look bad and undermining their perception before the black community. While this ordinance might make someone think twice about calling in a suspicion – which I suppose could have some downside – I’m pretty sure someone calling in witnessed hard crime is going to be ok. Your “openness to both sides of an argument” game needs some work.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    No, this ordinance would not criminalize white people calling the police on blacks in GR

    Did you even read it? A $500 fine for each occurance of calling on someone of color who is ‘participating in their lives’ sounds like criminalization to me.

    So loitering (casing homes or businesses), packing 200 people into a bbq in a public park without getting a permit (likely required for large numbers), vagrancy, shoplifting, etc., will be ignored now because people will have to decide for themselves if the person of color they’re looking at across the street, looking in every car is a thief or just a car aficionado.

    Quite frankly, I don’t give a shit if the cops are ‘put off’ for being called out on these types of calls. It’s their job. It’s what we’ve been told for decades. Don’t confront them...call the police...it’s what they’re here for. If they’re incapable of stopping and finding out if someone is legal or not without shooting everyone then you have a poorly untrained police force, most likely due to ‘diversity’ and affirmative action.

    By the way, Paul didn’t write the article, you jackass. Click a link for god’s sake. Read a little before opening your trap and sounding like a progressive imbecile.

    Although, after a brief dip into your comment stream, I doubt if reading would’ve helped with that.
    , @Hibernian
    I'm sure "participating in their lives" is not unconstitutionally vague and will pass constitutional muster.
  10. Crime will now magically vanish in Grand Rapids. White business owners will think twice about calling police when their merchandise is shoplifted. Polar Bear hunting will now be legal. Implicit bias and structural racism will now be greater crimes than assault and theft. The thought police will generate more fear than the real police. Grand Rapids which is the second largest city in Michigan could end up like Detroit if people with common sense don’t vehemently oppose this ordnance.

  11. And this just after “One Dead, Seven Injured at Baltimore Cookout.”

    And Bunny Park. And Black Bike Week. And the NY Giants draft pick from Washburn getting shot at a “barbecue.”

  12. A classic example of BRA.

  13. Simply leads to people taking the law into their own hands (where it belonged all the while) rather than involving the police.

    This is the ultimate goal, naturally and make no mistake, they will over-prosecute you for doing just that. The trick is to dispense justice and be gone before anyone else arrives.

    If the police are no longer there to help, then they are part of the problem.

    If they are being held back from doing their jobs by some ‘diversity’ officer…you know, the big black woman hired by the white mayor to look ‘diverse’, then the town should show up in force at every council meeting until she’s gone.

    You folks didn’t elect them to be ‘diverse’ at your expense. You elected them to govern your city and keep you safe.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Feedsackroad

    the big black woman hired by the white...
     
    This scenario plays out in every bureaucracy and large business across the land. Loud, large, & loquacious - with a pipeline to the front office and backed up by the courts - the big black woman calls the shots.
    , @lavoisier

    Simply leads to people taking the law into their own hands (where it belonged all the while) rather than involving the police.
     
    If you take the law into your own hands and try to defend yourself against a black criminal you stand a good chance of being prosecuted for this as well. The left is now trying to dismember stand your ground laws everywhere.

    These are all very dangerous developments. My only hope, and I admit it is a small hope, is that these attempts to legitimize black criminality and criminalize white self-defense will push even more and more people over to the realization that the government of the United States is becoming the enemy of the historic American nation and its people.

    Only then can the process of repair begin.

  14. “Clown World” is too light of a phrase – there needs to be another phrase that incorporates the word Purge – is in from the original movie. Because this is what they are working towards – the purging of White people.

    Blacks are getting more and more emboldened as demonstrated by their increased attacks on (and murders of) White people. Aside from the culling of White people (murder), Blacks are being used as a psychological weapon by the elites (think “New World Order”) to make White people retreat and withdraw from society and thus reduce our cohesiveness as a race.

    If you want a glimpse of our future – look no further than the UK and South Africa, with the latter being the final destination.

  15. Those who make enforcing laws impossible make street justice inevitable.

    • Agree: Feedsackroad
  16. fkng a**holes are not going to participate in my life

  17. @Jim in Jersey
    Simply leads to people taking the law into their own hands (where it belonged all the while) rather than involving the police.

    This is the ultimate goal, naturally and make no mistake, they will over-prosecute you for doing just that. The trick is to dispense justice and be gone before anyone else arrives.

    If the police are no longer there to help, then they are part of the problem.

    If they are being held back from doing their jobs by some ‘diversity’ officer...you know, the big black woman hired by the white mayor to look ‘diverse’, then the town should show up in force at every council meeting until she’s gone.

    You folks didn’t elect them to be ‘diverse’ at your expense. You elected them to govern your city and keep you safe.

    the big black woman hired by the white…

    This scenario plays out in every bureaucracy and large business across the land. Loud, large, & loquacious – with a pipeline to the front office and backed up by the courts – the big black woman calls the shots.

  18. @John Achterhof
    No, this ordinance would not criminalize white people calling the police on blacks in GR. Check your hysteria, Paul. I'm sure the police are genuinely put off about called-in hyped-up suspicions that end up making them look bad and undermining their perception before the black community. While this ordinance might make someone think twice about calling in a suspicion - which I suppose could have some downside - I'm pretty sure someone calling in witnessed hard crime is going to be ok. Your "openness to both sides of an argument" game needs some work.

    No, this ordinance would not criminalize white people calling the police on blacks in GR

    Did you even read it? A $500 fine for each occurance of calling on someone of color who is ‘participating in their lives’ sounds like criminalization to me.

    So loitering (casing homes or businesses), packing 200 people into a bbq in a public park without getting a permit (likely required for large numbers), vagrancy, shoplifting, etc., will be ignored now because people will have to decide for themselves if the person of color they’re looking at across the street, looking in every car is a thief or just a car aficionado.

    Quite frankly, I don’t give a shit if the cops are ‘put off’ for being called out on these types of calls. It’s their job. It’s what we’ve been told for decades. Don’t confront them…call the police…it’s what they’re here for. If they’re incapable of stopping and finding out if someone is legal or not without shooting everyone then you have a poorly untrained police force, most likely due to ‘diversity’ and affirmative action.

    By the way, Paul didn’t write the article, you jackass. Click a link for god’s sake. Read a little before opening your trap and sounding like a progressive imbecile.

    Although, after a brief dip into your comment stream, I doubt if reading would’ve helped with that.

    • Agree: Dr. Pepper
    • Replies: @John Achterhof
    My comment history is awesome. In all modesty, this site is blessed to receive my scrupulously considered, often cheerful, unfailingly brilliant & independent minded contributions. I urge you to read more of it and in earnest application try to assimilate something of the spirit of it into your nature.
  19. How soon will it be when we have this law, on the books:

    It is against the Law to be White.

  20. Anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    next in Grand Rapids: rodrick dantzler cultural enrichment memorial, open to the public

  21. So let’s be honest here and admit that overuse of police is indeed a problem, and it’s mostly a problem of women – very often “women of color” – using the police inappropriately.

    But what are you basing that opinion on? Overhyped stories by the media?

    The problem I see here is that this prevents someone from calling the police on a Black youff walking around the neighborhood at 2 AM and acting suspiciously. He can just say he was going for a walk and now you have to pay a fine.

    But I doubt this will actually change much in areas with a Black population. In such areas they already ignore calls over suspicious people because they are too busy with crimes in progress. I’ve called in shots fired and the operator was annoyed because I didn’t see a gun and was trying to convince me that it was probably fireworks.

    Overall a really dumb idea and it shows the desperation and delusion of egalitarians. They can’t even think clearly on how to improve these areas. They are clinging to this idea that inequality is caused by Whites and we just need a few more laws and programs to fix it.

    • Replies: @Cauchemar du Singe
    In cities of even medium or small size, there is a plethora of Black female 911 call takers; many that
    will try to 'splayne to U why what you're calling to report is actually something else...
    ESPECIALLY if you report that Black males are the subjects of your called in report or complaint.
    Examples abound. I have a few that have occurred from Columbus, OH to Panama City, FL.
    Please feel free to recount your telephone experiences with dem big ol' strong, empowered, loud mouthed, block headed, pack protecting BLAK wimminz...the horrid freaks.
  22. Here’s a little anecdote for you:

    When I was 23, I boomeranged from college to back to home for a couple years. I did not own a car of my own, but would use my mom’s or my grandmother’s. One Friday evening, I took my grandma’s car (with her full knowledge and consent) to pick up takeout for dinner. The place where I was going had a full parking lot. So, I parked in the empty lot next door (where there was a former grocery store, now empty).

    When I returned, I saw two squad cars behind my car and a cop investigating the car with his flashlight. Surprised, and a bit annoyed, I hustled over to them.

    “Is this your car?” One cop asked.

    “Yes, sir.” I replied in a terse, but respectful tone.

    Except, not really. It was my grandmother’s, which I explained, along with the whole story of why I parked. I don’t know if someone called the police or if they were just passing by, but they thought it was suspicious that a car was parked in an abandoned lot at night (it was maybe 8pm? Not later). Quite frankly, I thought the whole incident was ridiculous, that the cops were overreacting, and that I was aggrieved for having to put up with this intrusion.

    But guess what? I cooperated fully and my story checked out. And, of course, I didn’t have any outstanding warrants. Thus, they left and that was the end of it.

    That’s my white privilege. Cooperating with the police, even when you think they’re idiots. Not having a bullshit explanation for suspicious behavior, and not having a prior record. White people are far, far more likely to check all three boxes than black people.

    But oh No! It’s racism!!! We must stop calling 911 on all the beautiful black angels who dindu nuffin Police be so rayyycis. White people noticing suspicious behavior be rayyciss!!

    Clown World puts it mildly.

    • Agree: 95Theses
  23. Anonymous[921] • Disclaimer says:

    He cited a summer 2017 gathering in Mulick Park in which police were called to break up a large gathering of African American community members.

    Aside from the fact that “a large gathering of African American community members” is a consistent recipe for violence (see the mass shooting at a “cookout” in Baltimore this weekend), did this large group have a permit for their “graduation party”? Was it in fact an illegal gathering which would have made the 911 call warranted? Of course, the intrepid reporter never bothers to track down those details (or worse, omitted them when they didn’t agree with his personal narrative).

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  24. Calling the police for anything other than complete nonsense should be allowed. We pay the 911 operators, and the police, to protect our neighborhoods. What is happening here is the left is making themselves the judge and the jury over what is an emergency, so only they can determine who should be served.

    What if a black is stalking people to rob them? Are we supposed to sit by and wait for that to happen, or can we prevent the robbery in the first place?

    I don’t think Mr. Kersey was wrong to point out that this will discourage whites from calling the police.

    Speaking for myself, if I lived in that city and were fined for making a frivolous call, I would sue the city for doing that. I honestly don’t see how they can fine people for calling the police.

  25. Anonymous[921] • Disclaimer says:

    I guess this is what it’s come to. Whites will have to pay a fee to call the police on blacks if they fear for their life or property. You see a couple of black kids prowling outside your house at 2 AM, you call the police on them, they tell the police they were just there scouting for the best location to view the Schwassmann-Wachmann comet, and you pay the 500 dollar fee to have them leave your area. That is, if they don’t realize that the police have no power to make them leave your property.

    Any and all large gatherings of blacks, permit or no, will now be condoned, noise ordinances will not be enforced, property damage will go unpunished (it’s their “space to destroy”, after all), and police will only be called in to haul away the dead and wounded left in the gathering’s wake. That’s pretty much how it is now, except cities will be raking in additional money from anyone who calls to complain.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  26. @Jim in Jersey
    No, this ordinance would not criminalize white people calling the police on blacks in GR

    Did you even read it? A $500 fine for each occurance of calling on someone of color who is ‘participating in their lives’ sounds like criminalization to me.

    So loitering (casing homes or businesses), packing 200 people into a bbq in a public park without getting a permit (likely required for large numbers), vagrancy, shoplifting, etc., will be ignored now because people will have to decide for themselves if the person of color they’re looking at across the street, looking in every car is a thief or just a car aficionado.

    Quite frankly, I don’t give a shit if the cops are ‘put off’ for being called out on these types of calls. It’s their job. It’s what we’ve been told for decades. Don’t confront them...call the police...it’s what they’re here for. If they’re incapable of stopping and finding out if someone is legal or not without shooting everyone then you have a poorly untrained police force, most likely due to ‘diversity’ and affirmative action.

    By the way, Paul didn’t write the article, you jackass. Click a link for god’s sake. Read a little before opening your trap and sounding like a progressive imbecile.

    Although, after a brief dip into your comment stream, I doubt if reading would’ve helped with that.

    My comment history is awesome. In all modesty, this site is blessed to receive my scrupulously considered, often cheerful, unfailingly brilliant & independent minded contributions. I urge you to read more of it and in earnest application try to assimilate something of the spirit of it into your nature.

  27. On a side note, here are a few of the recent crime stories in Atlanta involving negroes
    enriching society:
    1. A black male shoots 10 kids on a playground with a pellet gun.
    2. 3 black teenagers are shot and injured by a black male while they are at a birthday party
    in Clayton County.
    3. A black male fires shots at a school bus full of children.
    4. A black woman is on trial for starving her stepdaughter to death.
    Just another week in diversity land.

    • Replies: @JR1967
    And the Blue Political Island of Metro Atlanta keeps expanding......

    Coming maybe soon to other counties such as Coweta, Fayette and others.
  28. Speaking of large gatherings in public parks (whether it’s a graduation party, company party or birthday party) this usually requires (in my city) the organizer to obtain a reservation as they’ll no doubt be using the pavilion areas with picnic tables. This is done to make sure the site is available. A company I once worked for decided to have a company picnic at such a locale one time and when we all arrived, the site was occupied by a group (despite a sign posted that the pavilion was reserved) who had no reservation and refused to vacate. Calls had to be made and the police checked with the parks department, found out that the company indeed had a reservation and thus ordered the other group to leave. In other words, you can’t just show up en masse without a reservation and occupy an area just because you want to and take over and prevent those who do have a reservation from using the spot.

    In the aforementioned incident, the “occupiers” were white and didn’t like being told to vacate but did so without incident. Imagine if they’d been black! No doubt accusations of racism would have erupted along with complaints about our “white privilege” and the cops “mistreatin’ people of color” and being bigoted/racist towards them.

    As is, in the Grand Rapids incident, two questions: 1.) Did the negroes have a reservation/permit to hold a large gathering/event in a public park? I doubt it- they probably “just showed up.” and 2.) Did they hold the graduation party in a park in a predominantly white area far away from da hood for reasons of safety (to avoid “shots ringing out” and “gate crashers”) and thus look unusual and completely out of place?

    • Replies: @JacobPalasek
    I am sure at this graduation they did not have a reservation for that they were also consuming alcohol which is illegal in all Grand Rapids parks without a special permit. Thus, in the future, make sure you can say you saw intoxicated people in the park and beer cans etc... thus you witnessed a crime and did not call just because they were not white... etc...
  29. Negros “participating in their lives” has a higher than average chance of including criminal activity.

  30. Whether it be a graduation party or barbeque or whatever. When Africans get together in a group, shots ring out. If you happen to live nearby, then you are risking your life and your loved ones by upping the potential for catching a stray bullet. Orcs are poor shots and it’s normal to see innocent bystanders taking lead. Just take the loss on your house, sell it and get out. There are still some places left outside clown world where it’s not against the law to call the cops.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    Unfortunately, the government of the city of Grand Rapids has been merged with Grand Rapids county, and there's noplace where the laws of the former do not apply to the latter.

    Having seen the results from the perspective of people who live there, the area needs a good chlorination of the gene pool.
  31. Putting the responsibility of making real crime versus racial bias judgements onto untrained, civilian, 911 callers rather than paid, “professional”, 911 dispatchers and responding police? Yup, that make a lot of sense.

    How much do you want to bet that most of the 911 dispatchers in that city are black women thus incapable of racism? Someone has to be blamed for the “racism” so untrained white civilians it is rather than black “professionals” whose job and sworn oath it is to prevent this?

    • Agree: Bruce County
  32. Blacks have gotten away with this type of nonsense for so long they are pushing the limits just to see what else they can add to the goody bag. Remember what Wallace told LBJ: “You can never satisfy them.” This has gone from a front seat on the bus to the removal of Confederate statues to demands for the distribution of wealth without work [reparations] and chimerical laws seeking to fine anyone who dares call law enforcement on blacks being blacks. Participating in their lives simply means being the annoyance they are and the freedom to disrupt entire communities without fear.

  33. @Aryan Racist
    On a side note, here are a few of the recent crime stories in Atlanta involving negroes
    enriching society:
    1. A black male shoots 10 kids on a playground with a pellet gun.
    2. 3 black teenagers are shot and injured by a black male while they are at a birthday party
    in Clayton County.
    3. A black male fires shots at a school bus full of children.
    4. A black woman is on trial for starving her stepdaughter to death.
    Just another week in diversity land.

    And the Blue Political Island of Metro Atlanta keeps expanding……

    Coming maybe soon to other counties such as Coweta, Fayette and others.

  34. The vast majority of spurious 911 calls are by groids. Will they face these fines, or just YT?

  35. White America……………….

  36. Citizen statements to law enforcement in Michigan are absolutely privileged. However, some local residents called the police on a black man acting suspiciously, so in the resulting lawsuit the judge is ignoring the law because racism is bad.

    https://www.wxyz.com/news/region/detroit/detroit-man-files-lawsuit-against-women-who-called-police-on-him-in-gardening-while-black-case

  37. The ordinance has gone through various changes over the last half-century, including protections for LGBTQ residents.

    So if you see a deviant fag drooling in the boy’s room of your local elementary school, the government expects you to STFU.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  38. “He cited a summer 2017 gathering in Mulick Park in which police were called to break up a large gathering of African American community members. Multiple patrol vehicles were sent to the park before it was determined that it was a graduation party.”

    Translation: Negroes were screaming, fighting, yelling “Motha fucka” at the top of their lungs and playing music celebrating crime, violence and misogyny at maximum decibal. People got scared and called cops, who determined they were “just living their lives.”

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  39. @EastKekistani

    Grand Rapids could soon have an ordinance that would make it a criminal misdemeanor to racially profile people of color for “participating in their lives.”
     
    This is insane.

    “Racial Profiling” is an inflammatory phrase used to incite (ever bubbling beneath the surface) black violence.
    The physical “profile” of a criminal should include race.

  40. The law should be titled the “dey dindu nuffins law”. If this anti-white insanity would be confined just to Grand Rapids, MI we could laugh it off, but what will happen is that the Grand Rapids city council will become rock stars on left wing media and the idea will quickly spread to other left leaning cities. Then state legislatures will take it up and Democrat presidential candidates, not to be outdone, will vow to pass similar legislation at the federal level. Republican will offer their version which fines white people $100.00 only.

    As others have mentioned bad things often happen at Bantu barbecues which is why white people tend to be wary of them. Just last year in a medium size city near me there was a barbecue celebration at a park for some small time black civil rights crusader and two people wound up getting shot and another stabbed.

    • Replies: @Blue Juice
    You summed it up perfectly. The "Dindu Nuffins Law" is an idea and cause that will spread to Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Chicago, Dallas, New York City, Denver and Atlanta within the next five years. The Dindu Nuffins Law is a knee-jerk "feel good" social-justice law that can never really be enforced while black crime in those cities (and Grand Rapids) will continue to escalate.
  41. @Luludog
    Whether it be a graduation party or barbeque or whatever. When Africans get together in a group, shots ring out. If you happen to live nearby, then you are risking your life and your loved ones by upping the potential for catching a stray bullet. Orcs are poor shots and it's normal to see innocent bystanders taking lead. Just take the loss on your house, sell it and get out. There are still some places left outside clown world where it's not against the law to call the cops.

    Unfortunately, the government of the city of Grand Rapids has been merged with Grand Rapids county, and there’s noplace where the laws of the former do not apply to the latter.

    Having seen the results from the perspective of people who live there, the area needs a good chlorination of the gene pool.

  42. This is just like a guy closing the distance on you in the street by asking for the time, a light, directions, whatever. Its just an excuse to close the distance and attack.

    Every burglary and home invasion will now have a denial “lifestyle activity” reason to recon the neighborhood, close the distance with the intended target and minimize the exposure time of the attack. Any interruption before becomes a hate crime on their poor oppressed selves.

    Do you want more Trayvons and Browns? cuz this is how you get more.

    • Agree: Bruce County
  43. @John Johnson
    So let’s be honest here and admit that overuse of police is indeed a problem, and it’s mostly a problem of women – very often “women of color” – using the police inappropriately.

    But what are you basing that opinion on? Overhyped stories by the media?

    The problem I see here is that this prevents someone from calling the police on a Black youff walking around the neighborhood at 2 AM and acting suspiciously. He can just say he was going for a walk and now you have to pay a fine.

    But I doubt this will actually change much in areas with a Black population. In such areas they already ignore calls over suspicious people because they are too busy with crimes in progress. I've called in shots fired and the operator was annoyed because I didn't see a gun and was trying to convince me that it was probably fireworks.

    Overall a really dumb idea and it shows the desperation and delusion of egalitarians. They can't even think clearly on how to improve these areas. They are clinging to this idea that inequality is caused by Whites and we just need a few more laws and programs to fix it.

    In cities of even medium or small size, there is a plethora of Black female 911 call takers; many that
    will try to ‘splayne to U why what you’re calling to report is actually something else…
    ESPECIALLY if you report that Black males are the subjects of your called in report or complaint.
    Examples abound. I have a few that have occurred from Columbus, OH to Panama City, FL.
    Please feel free to recount your telephone experiences with dem big ol’ strong, empowered, loud mouthed, block headed, pack protecting BLAK wimminz…the horrid freaks.

  44. What about people that order pizza and then kill the driver? How does that contrast with a “Becky” reporting illiterate thugs for prolific public rapes/mutilations?

    Did the pizza-deprived Dindus receive some measure of grace “Becky” would never receive?

  45. @Jim in Jersey
    Simply leads to people taking the law into their own hands (where it belonged all the while) rather than involving the police.

    This is the ultimate goal, naturally and make no mistake, they will over-prosecute you for doing just that. The trick is to dispense justice and be gone before anyone else arrives.

    If the police are no longer there to help, then they are part of the problem.

    If they are being held back from doing their jobs by some ‘diversity’ officer...you know, the big black woman hired by the white mayor to look ‘diverse’, then the town should show up in force at every council meeting until she’s gone.

    You folks didn’t elect them to be ‘diverse’ at your expense. You elected them to govern your city and keep you safe.

    Simply leads to people taking the law into their own hands (where it belonged all the while) rather than involving the police.

    If you take the law into your own hands and try to defend yourself against a black criminal you stand a good chance of being prosecuted for this as well. The left is now trying to dismember stand your ground laws everywhere.

    These are all very dangerous developments. My only hope, and I admit it is a small hope, is that these attempts to legitimize black criminality and criminalize white self-defense will push even more and more people over to the realization that the government of the United States is becoming the enemy of the historic American nation and its people.

    Only then can the process of repair begin.

    • Replies: @By-tor
    The US government is the enemy of the American people for the same reasons it is the enemy of the people of Venezuela, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Serbia, Iraq, Libya, Ukraine, Egypt, Turkey, Hungary, Russia, China, the Philippines, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Guatemala, Honduras, Cuba, Nicaragua and Pakistan.
    , @gkruz
    "Becoming"?
    It already is, and perhaps always was, the enemy of White people in the United States. If the unanimous official denunciation of White nationalism by the Congress and the unanimous official capitulation to Our Greatest Ally by the same Congress didn't clue you in that it's not your country anymore, reflect on this. Right now the media-anointed Democratic front runner for the presidency is a White man who publicly applauded the gradual extinction of his own race by unending streams of third world immigration and said it was a good thing. And he not only has the effrontery to seek your vote, but there seem to be vast numbers of White people lining up to give it to him.
  46. Townsfolk gather to change “racist” laws in a way that will endanger many of their citizens, particularly those not in minority groups that will be allowed to call the police without legal repercussions due to their skin-pigmentation hue.

    As the basis for this change, town authorities cite one regrettable incident, in which common-sense-deprived police handcuffed the least physically strong—and the least likely to be dangerous—person in the room: a 12-year-old girl.

    Town dignitaries failed to take into consideration the erosion of common-sense skills in a society fed on Hollywood films that portray women and girls as equal to men in strength and physical aggressiveness—a fictional, feminist fantasyland view with very little grounding in reality that has seeped even into the psyches of police.

    With 911 dialing criminalized for whites by Woke laws, options for white citizens include: 1) moving away from the dangerous area if they are financially able; 2) renting space in their home to a Black woman who definitely will call the police without a trace of guilt if she senses danger; 3) making sure that they work with Black women in any dangerous workplace setting, in that Black women will call the police on vagrants (of any color) if they are afraid and even if they just fear that vagrancy will cause a decrease in sales, especially in the many cases where oppressed, Black females are chosen for the higher paying management slots in the racist USA.

  47. Isn’t Grand Rapids heavily dutch and christian? Demographics that are easily manipulated into leftist and SJW positions.

  48. @Augustus
    "Diversity and Inclusion Manager," Patti Caudill. "Diversity and Inclusion Manager!?!"
    How much does that pay!!!???!!!

    I'm glad I don't live in that insane asylum of a city, and that's saying a lot considering I live in Chicago, where Blacks long ago took over all the parks and public places, and have gang-related shootings at gatherings in parks.

    Is there a degree in Diversity and Inclusion? I can hear it now, "What's your major?
    Diversity and Inclusion? Wow girl, you must be smart!"

    Does anyone who thinks up these jobs know they're stark raving looney? Does anyone ever try to tell them? I guess a PhD in Diversity and Inclusion should get someone a job giving massages at Barry's Bathhouse, not an actual government job leeching off taxpayers. Definitely irredeemable!

    “Diversity and Inclusion” is now a department in every university and corporation. It’s one of those rent-seeking jobs that are magnets for dim people with useless degrees like Gender Studies. After all the white liberals die off and are no longer in power, D&I will probably disappear, since other groups are sane enough not to undermine the position of their own people.

  49. Here’s an entrepreneurial opportunity in the offing!

    Hire a bank of Africans (male and female so as not to discriminate) and open the first ‘Black-11’.

    Secure an easily memorable number like (800)HEPHEPME and contact them when you see s suspicious African in your area. They will translate your request into negro and contact 911 on your behalf! The police come, take care of the interloper and cart him or her away to certain, swift justice and no one is the wiser.

    I’m seeking investors….

    • Replies: @Augustus
    Normally I'd want to become a shareholder, but according to the latest, socialist Newspeak we're already "stakeholders." Our government can just reach into any free-market business to pick winners and losers, just like in the Obama era. 😀
    Trump should end a few leftist businesses like Google, Twitter, and Facebook. I keep hoping.
  50. Never call the cops. They’ll just come and kill your dog, possibly your grandmother, take all your cannabis and arrest you for failure to obey. Comply or Die.

    Contempt of Cop = Summary Execution.

    Sitting safely atop my mountain, far away from the city, watching the world burn.

  51. No one will ever be convicted of this ludicrous charge, but it’s pretty depressing such an ordinance is being taken seriously in an American city.

  52. @KenH
    The law should be titled the "dey dindu nuffins law". If this anti-white insanity would be confined just to Grand Rapids, MI we could laugh it off, but what will happen is that the Grand Rapids city council will become rock stars on left wing media and the idea will quickly spread to other left leaning cities. Then state legislatures will take it up and Democrat presidential candidates, not to be outdone, will vow to pass similar legislation at the federal level. Republican will offer their version which fines white people $100.00 only.

    As others have mentioned bad things often happen at Bantu barbecues which is why white people tend to be wary of them. Just last year in a medium size city near me there was a barbecue celebration at a park for some small time black civil rights crusader and two people wound up getting shot and another stabbed.

    You summed it up perfectly. The “Dindu Nuffins Law” is an idea and cause that will spread to Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Chicago, Dallas, New York City, Denver and Atlanta within the next five years. The Dindu Nuffins Law is a knee-jerk “feel good” social-justice law that can never really be enforced while black crime in those cities (and Grand Rapids) will continue to escalate.

  53. “The Dindu Nuffins Law” (credit KenH for the term) is just another way to handcuff the police and citizens who try to hold back the black hordes. Stand Your Ground laws are being dismantled, the 2nd Amendment is constantly being dissected, business and property owners are being abandoned and left defenseless by their legal system and states’ attorneys and a new generation of law enforcement is being reeducated and hired. Our enemies may be powerful but they are definitely predictable and it’s not all bad news. The price of firearms and ammunition keeps dropping (probably for not much longer) and more whites see their safety as their own responsibility. Preppers who were once ridiculed and ostracized have important lessons to teach. More whites who took pride in being tax-paying law-abiding citizens are now trying to outsmart the system. Hell…some are flirting with the idea of becoming outright outlaws, vigilantes and militia. Stay Alert, Stay Armed, Stay Away and Stay Alive

    • Replies: @Bruce County
    The “Dindu Nuffins Law” Should actually be pluralized.
    I'm all in on that one..
    In this politically correct world of identity politics ...now ..what if the white caller identifies as black..??
    I mean if blacks can pretend to intelligent law abiding citizens why cant a person pretend to be black?
  54. In Nature there are only the the predators and the prey.
    If you Study Nature and see how it works, thn you can decide If you want to continue
    being part of Societys prey. Understand all the things that make you prey.
    Praying is only associated with the prey. So is being part of society.

  55. @lavoisier

    Simply leads to people taking the law into their own hands (where it belonged all the while) rather than involving the police.
     
    If you take the law into your own hands and try to defend yourself against a black criminal you stand a good chance of being prosecuted for this as well. The left is now trying to dismember stand your ground laws everywhere.

    These are all very dangerous developments. My only hope, and I admit it is a small hope, is that these attempts to legitimize black criminality and criminalize white self-defense will push even more and more people over to the realization that the government of the United States is becoming the enemy of the historic American nation and its people.

    Only then can the process of repair begin.

    The US government is the enemy of the American people for the same reasons it is the enemy of the people of Venezuela, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Serbia, Iraq, Libya, Ukraine, Egypt, Turkey, Hungary, Russia, China, the Philippines, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Guatemala, Honduras, Cuba, Nicaragua and Pakistan.

  56. @Blue Juice
    "The Dindu Nuffins Law" (credit KenH for the term) is just another way to handcuff the police and citizens who try to hold back the black hordes. Stand Your Ground laws are being dismantled, the 2nd Amendment is constantly being dissected, business and property owners are being abandoned and left defenseless by their legal system and states' attorneys and a new generation of law enforcement is being reeducated and hired. Our enemies may be powerful but they are definitely predictable and it's not all bad news. The price of firearms and ammunition keeps dropping (probably for not much longer) and more whites see their safety as their own responsibility. Preppers who were once ridiculed and ostracized have important lessons to teach. More whites who took pride in being tax-paying law-abiding citizens are now trying to outsmart the system. Hell...some are flirting with the idea of becoming outright outlaws, vigilantes and militia. Stay Alert, Stay Armed, Stay Away and Stay Alive

    The “Dindu Nuffins Law” Should actually be pluralized.
    I’m all in on that one..
    In this politically correct world of identity politics …now ..what if the white caller identifies as black..??
    I mean if blacks can pretend to intelligent law abiding citizens why cant a person pretend to be black?

    • Replies: @Anon
    Daisy Dolezal did more acting on behalf of blacks as a supposed black than many actual blacks have via their own efforts.

    ;)
  57. @Jim in Jersey
    Here’s an entrepreneurial opportunity in the offing!

    Hire a bank of Africans (male and female so as not to discriminate) and open the first ‘Black-11’.

    Secure an easily memorable number like (800)HEPHEPME and contact them when you see s suspicious African in your area. They will translate your request into negro and contact 911 on your behalf! The police come, take care of the interloper and cart him or her away to certain, swift justice and no one is the wiser.

    I’m seeking investors....

    Normally I’d want to become a shareholder, but according to the latest, socialist Newspeak we’re already “stakeholders.” Our government can just reach into any free-market business to pick winners and losers, just like in the Obama era. 😀
    Trump should end a few leftist businesses like Google, Twitter, and Facebook. I keep hoping.

  58. There are already laws against false police reports. It is beyond belief that anyone would seriously attempt to criminalize truthful reporting of suspicious activity. If anything additional is called for, it might be a rethinking of how the police respond. They should be able to ascertain if it’s a graduation party without letting the folks know that some Becky called the cops on them. Of course young black men are very sensitive to being surveilled in any way; I’ve encountered this myself. Situational awareness is not a crime.

  59. @John Achterhof
    No, this ordinance would not criminalize white people calling the police on blacks in GR. Check your hysteria, Paul. I'm sure the police are genuinely put off about called-in hyped-up suspicions that end up making them look bad and undermining their perception before the black community. While this ordinance might make someone think twice about calling in a suspicion - which I suppose could have some downside - I'm pretty sure someone calling in witnessed hard crime is going to be ok. Your "openness to both sides of an argument" game needs some work.

    I’m sure “participating in their lives” is not unconstitutionally vague and will pass constitutional muster.

  60. gkruz says:
    @lavoisier

    Simply leads to people taking the law into their own hands (where it belonged all the while) rather than involving the police.
     
    If you take the law into your own hands and try to defend yourself against a black criminal you stand a good chance of being prosecuted for this as well. The left is now trying to dismember stand your ground laws everywhere.

    These are all very dangerous developments. My only hope, and I admit it is a small hope, is that these attempts to legitimize black criminality and criminalize white self-defense will push even more and more people over to the realization that the government of the United States is becoming the enemy of the historic American nation and its people.

    Only then can the process of repair begin.

    “Becoming”?
    It already is, and perhaps always was, the enemy of White people in the United States. If the unanimous official denunciation of White nationalism by the Congress and the unanimous official capitulation to Our Greatest Ally by the same Congress didn’t clue you in that it’s not your country anymore, reflect on this. Right now the media-anointed Democratic front runner for the presidency is a White man who publicly applauded the gradual extinction of his own race by unending streams of third world immigration and said it was a good thing. And he not only has the effrontery to seek your vote, but there seem to be vast numbers of White people lining up to give it to him.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    Good p0int. It is terribly depressing the current situation.

    But the in your face hate whitey 24/7 of the cultural elite is at least serving one purpose: It is forcing people to take sides and reveals how much the liberal elite hate the people of the historic American nation.

    We should start returning the favor and see these bastards for the enemies that they are.

    But yes, despite Biden openly siding against white people many white people will still vote for this horrible man.
  61. @gkruz
    "Becoming"?
    It already is, and perhaps always was, the enemy of White people in the United States. If the unanimous official denunciation of White nationalism by the Congress and the unanimous official capitulation to Our Greatest Ally by the same Congress didn't clue you in that it's not your country anymore, reflect on this. Right now the media-anointed Democratic front runner for the presidency is a White man who publicly applauded the gradual extinction of his own race by unending streams of third world immigration and said it was a good thing. And he not only has the effrontery to seek your vote, but there seem to be vast numbers of White people lining up to give it to him.

    Good p0int. It is terribly depressing the current situation.

    But the in your face hate whitey 24/7 of the cultural elite is at least serving one purpose: It is forcing people to take sides and reveals how much the liberal elite hate the people of the historic American nation.

    We should start returning the favor and see these bastards for the enemies that they are.

    But yes, despite Biden openly siding against white people many white people will still vote for this horrible man.

  62. @Bruce County
    The “Dindu Nuffins Law” Should actually be pluralized.
    I'm all in on that one..
    In this politically correct world of identity politics ...now ..what if the white caller identifies as black..??
    I mean if blacks can pretend to intelligent law abiding citizens why cant a person pretend to be black?

    Daisy Dolezal did more acting on behalf of blacks as a supposed black than many actual blacks have via their own efforts.

    😉

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  63. They urge us that if we “see something, say something”, then charge us with a crime.

    Insane Clown World.

  64. @Non PC Infidel
    Speaking of large gatherings in public parks (whether it's a graduation party, company party or birthday party) this usually requires (in my city) the organizer to obtain a reservation as they'll no doubt be using the pavilion areas with picnic tables. This is done to make sure the site is available. A company I once worked for decided to have a company picnic at such a locale one time and when we all arrived, the site was occupied by a group (despite a sign posted that the pavilion was reserved) who had no reservation and refused to vacate. Calls had to be made and the police checked with the parks department, found out that the company indeed had a reservation and thus ordered the other group to leave. In other words, you can't just show up en masse without a reservation and occupy an area just because you want to and take over and prevent those who do have a reservation from using the spot.

    In the aforementioned incident, the "occupiers" were white and didn't like being told to vacate but did so without incident. Imagine if they'd been black! No doubt accusations of racism would have erupted along with complaints about our "white privilege" and the cops "mistreatin' people of color" and being bigoted/racist towards them.

    As is, in the Grand Rapids incident, two questions: 1.) Did the negroes have a reservation/permit to hold a large gathering/event in a public park? I doubt it- they probably "just showed up." and 2.) Did they hold the graduation party in a park in a predominantly white area far away from da hood for reasons of safety (to avoid "shots ringing out" and "gate crashers") and thus look unusual and completely out of place?

    I am sure at this graduation they did not have a reservation for that they were also consuming alcohol which is illegal in all Grand Rapids parks without a special permit. Thus, in the future, make sure you can say you saw intoxicated people in the park and beer cans etc… thus you witnessed a crime and did not call just because they were not white… etc…

  65. sure, call ! You just might get a somali cop who will blow your head off.! Or a police of color who will flip you on your head into the sidewalk while you’re handcuffed. I actually was hit on my bike by a woman of color and a police of color showed up and wouldn’t do anything.

  66. @Augustus
    "Diversity and Inclusion Manager," Patti Caudill. "Diversity and Inclusion Manager!?!"
    How much does that pay!!!???!!!

    I'm glad I don't live in that insane asylum of a city, and that's saying a lot considering I live in Chicago, where Blacks long ago took over all the parks and public places, and have gang-related shootings at gatherings in parks.

    Is there a degree in Diversity and Inclusion? I can hear it now, "What's your major?
    Diversity and Inclusion? Wow girl, you must be smart!"

    Does anyone who thinks up these jobs know they're stark raving looney? Does anyone ever try to tell them? I guess a PhD in Diversity and Inclusion should get someone a job giving massages at Barry's Bathhouse, not an actual government job leeching off taxpayers. Definitely irredeemable!

    “Diversity and Inclusion Manager,”

    IF you work at UCLA doing that it’s about a $400K a year gig…….great work if you can get it.

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