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Gun crime in New York in 2017 was almost exclusively committed by non-whites. The city is roughly 33 percent white, but only two percent of criminal shooting suspects were white: 98% of suspects were non-white. The source of this extraordinary data comes from the 2017 NYPD Use of Force Report (p. 57).

98 percent of gun crime suspects in 2017 NYC were nonwhite (courtesy of the 2017 NYPD Use of Force Report)

From the Use of Force Report (p. 25):

The race of subjects involved in the 23 ID‐AC incidents correlates to the races of both suspects and victims in the 789 criminal shootings in New York City in 2017. Among the 498 known criminal shooting suspects in New York City in 2017, approximately 75% were Black, 22% Hispanic, 2% White, and 1% Asian. Among the 936 criminal shooting victims in 2017, approximately 73% were Black, 22% Hispanic, 2% White, and 3% Asian.

Until we can have an honest discussion about the correlation to gun crime and race in America, you must never, ever concede any ground to those who would restrict the 2nd Amendment. Not one inch.

 
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  1. Amazing that the suspects/victim percents track so closely.

    One would think that NY is de facto segregated.

  2. Until we can have an honest discussion about the correlation to gun crime and race in America, you must never, ever concede any ground to those who would restrict the 2nd Amendment. Not one inch.

    I shan’t concede any ground regardless. Even if blacks and their high crime rates vanished tomorrow.

    Blacks are only part of the problem…and the danger.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  3. 98% of Suspects in Criminal Shootings Were Non-White

    Of which 1% was Asian.

    White vs. non-white is not where the clustering occurs.

    Asians were also the only people who were more likely to be victimized than perpetrators.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    You must be looking at a different figure than me. Looks to me like it’s whites and Asians who are in the hole though perhaps whites by not as much. Apparently black perps find them easier prey.

    If we dig into the numbers a bit , it seems Asians actually commit more gun crimes than whites per capita in nyc. They’re 1% of the perps and 12.7% of the population. Whites are 2% of the perps but 33% of the population. Not a huge difference but something to think about when we hear talk of model minorities and Asian supremacy.

  4. The race of subjects involved

    As soon as Trump’s out of office, the Swamp can resume its erasure of inconvenient facts, and phrases such as this one will never again see publication.

    • Agree: Bruce County
  5. And considering this is New York City after all….. how many of those 2% “white” shooting suspects were actually Jews?

    But by all means….. let’s have the Jews run a congressional hearing on the dangers of “White Nationalism”

    • Replies: @Paintjob Theory
    Statistically insignificant I'm sure. It's not them so much as their pets that are the violent troublemakers.

    That said, I'd wager not 1 in 10 of the "white" suspects would pass the brown bag test.

    It is also worth noting that these numbers are consistent with NYC crime statistics cited in the past and consistent with violent crime statistics every place on Earth with similar demographics.
  6. similar for LA. 10 years ago me and steve were checking the numbers published by the LA Times on their website. i called it the murder map.

    the murder rate for europeans was below the murder rate for asians.

    of course i assume this is because all the europeans in LA have been run out of the city, except for the upper class who can afford to live in expensive areas and attend good public schools and the better universities. so they’re smarter than the average guy.

    that’s certainly the case in NYC today.

    if you take the MENA people out of the european category the numbers go down slightly more.

  7. Hispanics have comparable crime rates to Whites, right?
    Just saying.

    • Replies: @Oleaginous Outrager
    For crime reporting purpose, "Hispanic" is simply a subset of White.
  8. OT: A dangerous place for a child. Under the same roof as a black male.

    ‘Former NFL player charged with murdering 5-year-old girl’

    April 12 at 4:48 AM

    LAS VEGAS (KSNV/CNN) – Former NFL football player Cierre Wood was arrested Thursday in Las Vegas and is facing a murder charge.

    He’s accused of killing his girlfriend’s daughter, 5-year-old La’Rayah Davis. The mother, Amy Taylor, is also facing a child abuse charge.

    In court, the girl’s father, Danaun Davis, said he was devastated. He sat 20 feet from Wood, who he believes killed his daughter. …

    http://www.wlox.com/2019/04/12/former-nfl-player-charged-with-murdering-year-old-girl/

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    Look at the names.  Almost certainly NHI.
  9. I watched Julian Castro, first Hispanic to run for president give his vision on the communist news network, CNN, last night. His vision includes 2 trillion dollars reparations for blacks, taken directly from white people. The usual Democrat drivel about gun bans, reduced magazine capacity, registry, high taxes on ammo- make no bones about it- these democrats are coming for your money and guns

    • Replies: @Anonymous0619

    make no bones about it- these democrats are coming for your money and guns
     
    They had better pack a lunch... 😁
    , @lou
    Is Hispanic a fictional category?
    , @Non PC Infidel
    As per reparations, there's an excellent article over at Amren that totally destroys that argument. www.amren.com/news/2019/04/whites-owe-blacks-nothing/

    Castro is just pandering to blacks for votes by promising them gibsmedats- the standard Democrat routine.
  10. Those numbers reflecting violent crime are just about the same or worse in every major city in America. Murders and gun violence are dominated by blacks and Hispanics. Our politicians seek to control this violence by imposing draconian gun laws on the law abiding, hard working, contributing white people who are responsible for under 5% of the violence. In Chicago according to the website “HEYJACKASS.COM” in 2018 blacks and hispanics were involved in 94% of murders and shootings. In 2019 the number so far is the same at 94%. The remaining murders are accounted for by whites, asians, native american, Pacific islanders and unknown race. The interesting fact is that of those victims about half, 3%, were shot or killed by blacks or Hispanics thereby reducing the percentage to about 3%. No elected official will ever tell the truth about these facts because it would be committing political suicide. The truth is racist, the facts are racist, reality is racist.

    • Agree: Anonymous0619
  11. @Chewie111
    And considering this is New York City after all..... how many of those 2% "white" shooting suspects were actually Jews?

    But by all means..... let's have the Jews run a congressional hearing on the dangers of "White Nationalism"

    Statistically insignificant I’m sure. It’s not them so much as their pets that are the violent troublemakers.

    That said, I’d wager not 1 in 10 of the “white” suspects would pass the brown bag test.

    It is also worth noting that these numbers are consistent with NYC crime statistics cited in the past and consistent with violent crime statistics every place on Earth with similar demographics.

  12. The unfortunate part of human history is that it primarily consists of wars where whites are killing other whites. In the European wars, the American Civil War, WW 1 & 2, negroes were left unscathed. Sure the negro is more violent than whites, however, they never developed weapons in which killing could be done on a massive scale. All negroes are able use for weapons are the ones they manage to steal from the white man, such as the side holding Glock. As has been posted previously on this blog, the real enemy of decent white society is not negroes. It is other whites who allow the negro ( and illegals) to prey on decent society, and then try to make us few guilty for our white privilege. If someone lets their pet tiger terrorize the neighborhood, who is at fault? The tiger which is only doing what is natural for it, or the person who brought the tiger into the neighborhood and then let it roam free?

    • Agree: Archie Bunker, lou, Augustus
    • Replies: @Janie in Detroit
    Hell Full Metal Realist, negros don't need advanced weaponry to cause massive damage.
    Remember Rwanda? Those savages managed to hack to death damn near a million people inside of a 100 days! Hitler had nothing on those machete wielding rabid animals...then again, the damage wouldn't have been nearly as bad, had they been using stone tipped spears.
  13. I can see the city from the top of my hill here. I try to spend as little time there as humanly possible. There is nothing that draws me there. It’s filthy, crowded, impossible to move in and dangerous. I only go over for work and that’s only occasionally. Thank God.

    In Brooklyn the other day, I remarked to my comrades that we were the only white men in sight. We were up on a roof and the look on their faces was priceless when they scanned the crowds thinking they would quickly prove me wrong. The look is a combination of fear and disgust. Like we were dropped into a rooftop in Haiti.

    Someone mentioned the ‘melting pot’ in another thread the other day regarding how they welcome immigrants. But there is no longer a crucible present here. When you turn the heat down, it’s just stew.

    It’s Babel.

  14. @Archie Bunker
    I watched Julian Castro, first Hispanic to run for president give his vision on the communist news network, CNN, last night. His vision includes 2 trillion dollars reparations for blacks, taken directly from white people. The usual Democrat drivel about gun bans, reduced magazine capacity, registry, high taxes on ammo- make no bones about it- these democrats are coming for your money and guns

    make no bones about it- these democrats are coming for your money and guns

    They had better pack a lunch… 😁

  15. @Archie Bunker
    I watched Julian Castro, first Hispanic to run for president give his vision on the communist news network, CNN, last night. His vision includes 2 trillion dollars reparations for blacks, taken directly from white people. The usual Democrat drivel about gun bans, reduced magazine capacity, registry, high taxes on ammo- make no bones about it- these democrats are coming for your money and guns

    Is Hispanic a fictional category?

    • Replies: @Trevor
    I don't like he classificstion "Hispanic". Essentially. It is anyone who speaks Spanish or has Spanish ancestry but who does not live in Spain. Liberals like to count
    them as white when it suits them or promotes their narrative.

    I prefer "mestizo" because it is clearly a racial category, not a cultural ethnicity.

    Mestizo is some (unfortunate) mixture of indo-Amerindian, negroid, and Spanish European. Unlike Hispanics, they are always some shade of brown.

    Many "Spanish" themselves had some arab and negroid admixture already when they were making mestizos because they were part of dar-al-Islam for a millennia and lots of inter-brerding happened.
    , @Anonymous0619
    Per the MSM, Hispanics are only white when there is a need to artificially inflate white crime statistics or when a white villain is needed to advance the narrative (George Zimmerman anyone?).
  16. One person was killed and multiple others injured when a shooting took place Thursday afternoon during the funeral procession for slain rapper Nipsey Hussle.
    A total of four people were shot at 103 Street and Main Street during the procession, according to Los Angeles police Chief Michel Moore.
    The victims were described as three African-American men and one African-American woman all between the ages of 30 to 50, said Moore via social media.
    It is unclear which victim died.
    Suspects in gray Hyundai fired on the victims, the chief said.
    “We must stop this senseless violence,” Chief Moore added.
    Who didnt see that coming.
    This grilled cheese sandwich is tasting better already.

    • LOL: Anonymous0619
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Anon @ 11:04 pm yesterday completely called the "shots ringing out" when commenting on the fact that CNN had live coverage of the rap funeral. Black violence and dysfunction is so utterly predictable that we must be constantly reminded that it is white domestic terrorists and the NRA who are the main sowers of mayhem in this country.
  17. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bruce County
    One person was killed and multiple others injured when a shooting took place Thursday afternoon during the funeral procession for slain rapper Nipsey Hussle.
    A total of four people were shot at 103 Street and Main Street during the procession, according to Los Angeles police Chief Michel Moore.
    The victims were described as three African-American men and one African-American woman all between the ages of 30 to 50, said Moore via social media.
    It is unclear which victim died.
    Suspects in gray Hyundai fired on the victims, the chief said.
    "We must stop this senseless violence," Chief Moore added.
    Who didnt see that coming.
    This grilled cheese sandwich is tasting better already.

    Anon @ 11:04 pm yesterday completely called the “shots ringing out” when commenting on the fact that CNN had live coverage of the rap funeral. Black violence and dysfunction is so utterly predictable that we must be constantly reminded that it is white domestic terrorists and the NRA who are the main sowers of mayhem in this country.

  18. In Smallville Minnesota, 99% white, 100% of suspects in murders are white. But they don’t count.

    • Replies: @Archie Bunker
    Sounds like utopia to me, wonder how they keep the garbage out
    , @Mr. Rational
    My county has roughly the population of the Bronzetown neighborhood in Chimpcongo.  Bronzetown has had at least 2 well-publicized shootings just this year.

    Guess how many arrests my COUNTY has had for murder or attempted murder this year?  Zero.

    And last year?  Zero.

    And back as far as 2012?  Still zero.

    When you have a murder in Smallville these days, it's usually an African, indio or mestizo criminal and the act is what we like to call "TNB":

    https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/postbulletin.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/7/80/780f7d7a-4230-5a22-8b42-b4e1ffe2ca38/5a84a751101a4.image.jpg?resize=300%2C374

    , @Jim in Jersey
    And how many exactly is that, yag?

    1?
    , @Oleaginous Outrager
    Once again, obi shows up with his made-up "white folks is stupid" anecdotes and doesn't even understand they're at best irrelevant, and more often undermine the point I assume he's trying to make, like this idiocy. Poor clueless obi.
  19. @Archie Bunker
    I watched Julian Castro, first Hispanic to run for president give his vision on the communist news network, CNN, last night. His vision includes 2 trillion dollars reparations for blacks, taken directly from white people. The usual Democrat drivel about gun bans, reduced magazine capacity, registry, high taxes on ammo- make no bones about it- these democrats are coming for your money and guns

    As per reparations, there’s an excellent article over at Amren that totally destroys that argument. http://www.amren.com/news/2019/04/whites-owe-blacks-nothing/

    Castro is just pandering to blacks for votes by promising them gibsmedats- the standard Democrat routine.

    • Replies: @Archie Bunker
    I read that Amren article, I read that site and this one daily, guess that makes me a dirty white boy
  20. @lou
    Is Hispanic a fictional category?

    I don’t like he classificstion “Hispanic”. Essentially. It is anyone who speaks Spanish or has Spanish ancestry but who does not live in Spain. Liberals like to count
    them as white when it suits them or promotes their narrative.

    I prefer “mestizo” because it is clearly a racial category, not a cultural ethnicity.

    Mestizo is some (unfortunate) mixture of indo-Amerindian, negroid, and Spanish European. Unlike Hispanics, they are always some shade of brown.

    Many “Spanish” themselves had some arab and negroid admixture already when they were making mestizos because they were part of dar-al-Islam for a millennia and lots of inter-brerding happened.

  21. I’m going to wager this political maneuver to delve into Stacey Abrams campaign will result in outrage and accusations of racism in the MSM and from the Afritacracy. Just a hunch.

    ‘New Georgia ethics chief says he will subpoena Abrams campaign records’

    Updated: Apr 11, 2019

    ATLANTA – The new director of the state ethics commission plans to subpoena bank records from the campaign of 2018 Democratic gubernatorial nominee Stacey Abrams and groups that raised money to help her in last year’s nationally watched race.

    Former Douglas County prosecutor David Emadi, who started his new job Monday, also said his office will soon decide whether to prosecute the campaigns of Atlanta mayoral candidates.

    https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/new-georgia-ethics-chief-says-he-will-subpoena-stacey-abrams-campaign-records/939227448

    • Replies: @Anonymous0619
    LOL. “Wayciss! We Dindu Nuffin!” 😂
  22. @Feedsackroad
    OT: A dangerous place for a child. Under the same roof as a black male.

    'Former NFL player charged with murdering 5-year-old girl'

    April 12 at 4:48 AM

    LAS VEGAS (KSNV/CNN) - Former NFL football player Cierre Wood was arrested Thursday in Las Vegas and is facing a murder charge.

    He's accused of killing his girlfriend's daughter, 5-year-old La’Rayah Davis. The mother, Amy Taylor, is also facing a child abuse charge.

    In court, the girl’s father, Danaun Davis, said he was devastated. He sat 20 feet from Wood, who he believes killed his daughter. ...

    http://www.wlox.com/2019/04/12/former-nfl-player-charged-with-murdering-year-old-girl/

    Look at the names.  Almost certainly NHI.

  23. @obwandiyag
    In Smallville Minnesota, 99% white, 100% of suspects in murders are white. But they don't count.

    Sounds like utopia to me, wonder how they keep the garbage out

  24. @Non PC Infidel
    As per reparations, there's an excellent article over at Amren that totally destroys that argument. www.amren.com/news/2019/04/whites-owe-blacks-nothing/

    Castro is just pandering to blacks for votes by promising them gibsmedats- the standard Democrat routine.

    I read that Amren article, I read that site and this one daily, guess that makes me a dirty white boy

  25. Cat ladies glued to their big screens during Law & Order marathons will tell you that White hedge fund managers and Fortune 100 CEOs are the ones responsible for all the carnage in NYC.

  26. @obwandiyag
    In Smallville Minnesota, 99% white, 100% of suspects in murders are white. But they don't count.

    My county has roughly the population of the Bronzetown neighborhood in Chimpcongo.  Bronzetown has had at least 2 well-publicized shootings just this year.

    Guess how many arrests my COUNTY has had for murder or attempted murder this year?  Zero.

    And last year?  Zero.

    And back as far as 2012?  Still zero.

    When you have a murder in Smallville these days, it’s usually an African, indio or mestizo criminal and the act is what we like to call “TNB”:

    https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/postbulletin.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/7/80/780f7d7a-4230-5a22-8b42-b4e1ffe2ca38/5a84a751101a4.image.jpg?resize=300%2C374

    • Agree: Archie Bunker
  27. @obwandiyag
    In Smallville Minnesota, 99% white, 100% of suspects in murders are white. But they don't count.

    And how many exactly is that, yag?

    1?

    • Replies: @Bruce County
    It's maff Jim...not pistol mags.. he has no clue when it comes to maff. If it isnt bullets, drugs on a scale or Bennies... they dont know much else.. and nothing else matters to these orcs. Dont confuse the man..
  28. @Medvedev
    Hispanics have comparable crime rates to Whites, right?
    Just saying.

    For crime reporting purpose, “Hispanic” is simply a subset of White.

    • Agree: MarcB.
  29. @obwandiyag
    In Smallville Minnesota, 99% white, 100% of suspects in murders are white. But they don't count.

    Once again, obi shows up with his made-up “white folks is stupid” anecdotes and doesn’t even understand they’re at best irrelevant, and more often undermine the point I assume he’s trying to make, like this idiocy. Poor clueless obi.

  30. @Jim in Jersey
    And how many exactly is that, yag?

    1?

    It’s maff Jim…not pistol mags.. he has no clue when it comes to maff. If it isnt bullets, drugs on a scale or Bennies… they dont know much else.. and nothing else matters to these orcs. Dont confuse the man..

  31. @Feedsackroad
    I'm going to wager this political maneuver to delve into Stacey Abrams campaign will result in outrage and accusations of racism in the MSM and from the Afritacracy. Just a hunch.

    'New Georgia ethics chief says he will subpoena Abrams campaign records'

    Updated: Apr 11, 2019

    ATLANTA - The new director of the state ethics commission plans to subpoena bank records from the campaign of 2018 Democratic gubernatorial nominee Stacey Abrams and groups that raised money to help her in last year’s nationally watched race.

    Former Douglas County prosecutor David Emadi, who started his new job Monday, also said his office will soon decide whether to prosecute the campaigns of Atlanta mayoral candidates.

    https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/new-georgia-ethics-chief-says-he-will-subpoena-stacey-abrams-campaign-records/939227448

    LOL. “Wayciss! We Dindu Nuffin!” 😂

  32. @lou
    Is Hispanic a fictional category?

    Per the MSM, Hispanics are only white when there is a need to artificially inflate white crime statistics or when a white villain is needed to advance the narrative (George Zimmerman anyone?).

  33. Anonymous[261] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    98% of Suspects in Criminal Shootings Were Non-White
     
    Of which 1% was Asian.

    White vs. non-white is not where the clustering occurs.

    Asians were also the only people who were more likely to be victimized than perpetrators.

    You must be looking at a different figure than me. Looks to me like it’s whites and Asians who are in the hole though perhaps whites by not as much. Apparently black perps find them easier prey.

    If we dig into the numbers a bit , it seems Asians actually commit more gun crimes than whites per capita in nyc. They’re 1% of the perps and 12.7% of the population. Whites are 2% of the perps but 33% of the population. Not a huge difference but something to think about when we hear talk of model minorities and Asian supremacy.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    You are correct on the numbers! I misread the white numbers as 2.0/2.0 when it was actually 2.2/2.0.

    If we dig into the numbers a bit , it seems Asians actually commit more gun crimes than whites per capita in nyc. They’re 1% of the perps and 12.7% of the population. Whites are 2% of the perps but 33% of the population. Not a huge difference but something to think about when we hear talk of model minorities and Asian supremacy.
     
    Economic/educational demographics of whites and Asians are very different in NYC.
  34. Wait until you hear this story on news, today A-12, 24 year old negro grabs 5 year old child, who was with his mother,at the mall of america, and throws child off the 3rd floor, assaults a man who tried to detain him, then attempts escape but is caught- no reason, didn’t know the mother or child, who has life threatening injuries, it’s apparent at this point, what is happening in our society

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    If I just assumed that all black men are on a schizophrenic spectrum and limited contacts with them to the greatest extent possible, what would be the downside?
  35. @Anonymous
    You must be looking at a different figure than me. Looks to me like it’s whites and Asians who are in the hole though perhaps whites by not as much. Apparently black perps find them easier prey.

    If we dig into the numbers a bit , it seems Asians actually commit more gun crimes than whites per capita in nyc. They’re 1% of the perps and 12.7% of the population. Whites are 2% of the perps but 33% of the population. Not a huge difference but something to think about when we hear talk of model minorities and Asian supremacy.

    You are correct on the numbers! I misread the white numbers as 2.0/2.0 when it was actually 2.2/2.0.

    If we dig into the numbers a bit , it seems Asians actually commit more gun crimes than whites per capita in nyc. They’re 1% of the perps and 12.7% of the population. Whites are 2% of the perps but 33% of the population. Not a huge difference but something to think about when we hear talk of model minorities and Asian supremacy.

    Economic/educational demographics of whites and Asians are very different in NYC.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke

    If we dig into the numbers a bit , it seems Asians actually commit more gun crimes than whites per capita in nyc. They’re 1% of the perps and 12.7% of the population.
     
    Re gun crimes, I have to wonder if these gun crimes fall mostly in the category of possession. A lot of these people live and work in slum areas well into the small hours and may have gotten firearms as a means of self-protection. NYC muggers aren't shy about reporting failed robberies of armed civilians to the cops as encounters with dangerous gun-wielding assailants. It's a reasonable gambit, given that legal firearms are as scarce as hen's teeth in the city. NYC prosecutorial discretion means that illegal gun-owning civilians with no priors are given the third degree, whereas black criminals with long rap sheets who are caught with an illegal gun are given a slap on the wrist. Wouldn't want the appearance of profiling during the next election campaign.
  36. @Full Metal Realist
    The unfortunate part of human history is that it primarily consists of wars where whites are killing other whites. In the European wars, the American Civil War, WW 1 & 2, negroes were left unscathed. Sure the negro is more violent than whites, however, they never developed weapons in which killing could be done on a massive scale. All negroes are able use for weapons are the ones they manage to steal from the white man, such as the side holding Glock. As has been posted previously on this blog, the real enemy of decent white society is not negroes. It is other whites who allow the negro ( and illegals) to prey on decent society, and then try to make us few guilty for our white privilege. If someone lets their pet tiger terrorize the neighborhood, who is at fault? The tiger which is only doing what is natural for it, or the person who brought the tiger into the neighborhood and then let it roam free?

    Hell Full Metal Realist, negros don’t need advanced weaponry to cause massive damage.
    Remember Rwanda? Those savages managed to hack to death damn near a million people inside of a 100 days! Hitler had nothing on those machete wielding rabid animals…then again, the damage wouldn’t have been nearly as bad, had they been using stone tipped spears.

  37. @Archie Bunker
    Wait until you hear this story on news, today A-12, 24 year old negro grabs 5 year old child, who was with his mother,at the mall of america, and throws child off the 3rd floor, assaults a man who tried to detain him, then attempts escape but is caught- no reason, didn't know the mother or child, who has life threatening injuries, it's apparent at this point, what is happening in our society

    If I just assumed that all black men are on a schizophrenic spectrum and limited contacts with them to the greatest extent possible, what would be the downside?

    • Replies: @Archie Bunker
    Absolutely none sir
  38. Rwanda is the opposite of what you have been told. Just like Bosnia. The Hutus and the Serbians are the good guys.

  39. To Janie in NY
    As you pointed out negroes are extremely violent when they are able to get hold of white technology. Even constructing a simple weapon such as a machete is beyond negroes abilities. It seems that when they get hold of the white man’s (or Asian)weapon, they simply go native and jump around in amazement at the ju-ju magic in their hands. Watch any movie such as ‘Black Hawk Down’ and see what the negro does when they get hold of a magic stick, they just start firing indiscriminately in the air.

  40. @Twinkie
    You are correct on the numbers! I misread the white numbers as 2.0/2.0 when it was actually 2.2/2.0.

    If we dig into the numbers a bit , it seems Asians actually commit more gun crimes than whites per capita in nyc. They’re 1% of the perps and 12.7% of the population. Whites are 2% of the perps but 33% of the population. Not a huge difference but something to think about when we hear talk of model minorities and Asian supremacy.
     
    Economic/educational demographics of whites and Asians are very different in NYC.

    If we dig into the numbers a bit , it seems Asians actually commit more gun crimes than whites per capita in nyc. They’re 1% of the perps and 12.7% of the population.

    Re gun crimes, I have to wonder if these gun crimes fall mostly in the category of possession. A lot of these people live and work in slum areas well into the small hours and may have gotten firearms as a means of self-protection. NYC muggers aren’t shy about reporting failed robberies of armed civilians to the cops as encounters with dangerous gun-wielding assailants. It’s a reasonable gambit, given that legal firearms are as scarce as hen’s teeth in the city. NYC prosecutorial discretion means that illegal gun-owning civilians with no priors are given the third degree, whereas black criminals with long rap sheets who are caught with an illegal gun are given a slap on the wrist. Wouldn’t want the appearance of profiling during the next election campaign.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    I do think there is a lot of “discretion” built into prosecuting “gun crimes” in urban areas. Certainly issuance of concealed carry permits is.

    Race is a huge variable in predicting crime. Presence of blacks, and to a lesser extent Hispanics, overwhelms other variables such as age, education level, poverty rate, etc.

    However, among low crime populations such as whites and Asians, non-racial demographic profiles make a difference. Gun crimes are highly correlated to gang activity, for example, and when the white population in NYC is native-born and highly “gentrified,” it’s going to have lower incidences per capita than the Asians in the city with its much higher percentage of immigrants* and the poverty-struck who have more gang members in their midst.

    *Per Migration Policy Institute study, though, foreign-born of every racial group, including whites, have lower incarceration rates than the American-born. But the assimilation penalty multiple is much greater with Hispanics.

  41. @The Anti-Gnostic
    If I just assumed that all black men are on a schizophrenic spectrum and limited contacts with them to the greatest extent possible, what would be the downside?

    Absolutely none sir

  42. @Johann Ricke

    If we dig into the numbers a bit , it seems Asians actually commit more gun crimes than whites per capita in nyc. They’re 1% of the perps and 12.7% of the population.
     
    Re gun crimes, I have to wonder if these gun crimes fall mostly in the category of possession. A lot of these people live and work in slum areas well into the small hours and may have gotten firearms as a means of self-protection. NYC muggers aren't shy about reporting failed robberies of armed civilians to the cops as encounters with dangerous gun-wielding assailants. It's a reasonable gambit, given that legal firearms are as scarce as hen's teeth in the city. NYC prosecutorial discretion means that illegal gun-owning civilians with no priors are given the third degree, whereas black criminals with long rap sheets who are caught with an illegal gun are given a slap on the wrist. Wouldn't want the appearance of profiling during the next election campaign.

    I do think there is a lot of “discretion” built into prosecuting “gun crimes” in urban areas. Certainly issuance of concealed carry permits is.

    Race is a huge variable in predicting crime. Presence of blacks, and to a lesser extent Hispanics, overwhelms other variables such as age, education level, poverty rate, etc.

    However, among low crime populations such as whites and Asians, non-racial demographic profiles make a difference. Gun crimes are highly correlated to gang activity, for example, and when the white population in NYC is native-born and highly “gentrified,” it’s going to have lower incidences per capita than the Asians in the city with its much higher percentage of immigrants* and the poverty-struck who have more gang members in their midst.

    *Per Migration Policy Institute study, though, foreign-born of every racial group, including whites, have lower incarceration rates than the American-born. But the assimilation penalty multiple is much greater with Hispanics.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    On the contrary, I doubt there is any wiggle room at all on gun possession charges.

    You get caught with a gun in the city and you’re going to jail, that’s pretty much the end of it.

    So if it comes out and makes noise, it had best be in the actual defense of your life and you had better not be there when the cops arrive.
  43. @Twinkie
    I do think there is a lot of “discretion” built into prosecuting “gun crimes” in urban areas. Certainly issuance of concealed carry permits is.

    Race is a huge variable in predicting crime. Presence of blacks, and to a lesser extent Hispanics, overwhelms other variables such as age, education level, poverty rate, etc.

    However, among low crime populations such as whites and Asians, non-racial demographic profiles make a difference. Gun crimes are highly correlated to gang activity, for example, and when the white population in NYC is native-born and highly “gentrified,” it’s going to have lower incidences per capita than the Asians in the city with its much higher percentage of immigrants* and the poverty-struck who have more gang members in their midst.

    *Per Migration Policy Institute study, though, foreign-born of every racial group, including whites, have lower incarceration rates than the American-born. But the assimilation penalty multiple is much greater with Hispanics.

    On the contrary, I doubt there is any wiggle room at all on gun possession charges.

    You get caught with a gun in the city and you’re going to jail, that’s pretty much the end of it.

    So if it comes out and makes noise, it had best be in the actual defense of your life and you had better not be there when the cops arrive.

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