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From the New York Times oped page:

Ilhan Omar: It Is Not Enough to Condemn Trump’s Racism
The nation’s ideals are under attack, and it is up to all of us to defend them.

By Ilhan Omar
Ms. Omar is a Democratic congresswoman from Minnesota.

July 25, 2019

… Last week, as President Trump watched the crowd at one of his rallies chant “Send her back,” aimed at me and my family, I was reminded of times when such fearmongering was allowed to flourish. I also couldn’t help but remember the horrors of civil war in Somalia that my family and I escaped, the America we expected to find and the one we actually experienced. …

Having survived civil war in my home country as a child, I cherish these values. In Somalia’s capital, Mogadishu, I saw grade-school children as young as me holding assault rifles in the streets. I spent four years in a refugee camp in Kenya, where there was no formal schooling or even running water. But my family and I persevered, fortified by our deep solidarity with one another, the compassion of others and the hope of a better life in the United States.

The America we arrived in was different from the one my grandfather had hoped to find. The land of opportunity he imagined was in fact full of challenges. People identified me in ways that were foreign to me: immigrant, black. I learned that these identities carried stigmas, and I experienced prejudice as a visibly Muslim woman.

… It was in the diverse community of Minneapolis — the very community that welcomed me home with open arms after Mr. Trump’s attacks against me last week — where I learned the true value of democracy. I started attending political caucuses with my grandfather, who cherished democracy as only someone who has experienced its absence could. I soon recognized that the only way to ensure that everyone in my community had a voice was by participating in the democratic process. …

Of course, everything about Rep. Omar’s personal and family history is murky. But here’s her own version of this story as recounted in City Pages in 2016. Her family, rather than be democratic dissidents as she implies today, appears to have been successful servants of the bloody dictatorship of Siad Barre (1969-1991).

Omar was born into a village of her own, the youngest of seven.

Her mother died when she was little. Men would shape her. Three older brothers, father Nur Omar Mohamed, and her grandfather, Abukar, especially.

Aunts and uncles worked as civil servants and educators. Omar’s father trained teachers. Theirs was a blessed life as Somalia began the transition from European colony to independence.

Her grandfather rode the winds of change to Italy, where he attended university. He returned to his East African homeland, becoming Somalia’s National Marine Transport director. Abukar oversaw the string of lighthouses along the Arabian Sea coastline.

Privilege accompanied this kind of pedigree. Books and culture were priorities inside the home, which was more like a compound, complete with domestic help. In a country where 80 percent of the population farmed and raised livestock, Omar started kindergarten at age four.

But Somalia was a fragile country. Civil strife soon threatened to swallow it.

About 12 million people occupy this land about the size of Texas. It’s overwhelmingly Muslim. Genealogy unites and divides.

Somalis belong to clans. These ethnic cliques can be about geography or marriage. Some possess age-old beliefs of superiority and consider members of sub-clans unsuitable for marriage, even friendship.

In 1991, the reign of Somali President Siad Barre imploded. The country had had enough of his Cold War-style military dictatorship. Barre was ousted, the national army disbanded. The ensuing vacuum devolved into a war among clans, turning neighbors into enemies. Omar witnessed this firsthand when she was eight years old.

Nighttime fell as about 20 people milled about the compound in Mogadishu, the Somali capital. Bad noises outside announced unwelcome visitors. Men with big guns demanded to be let in. The group tried to bust down the front door, but it was unbreakable. Omar and her family fell to the floor moments before the militiamen let go a staccato of gunfire. Once they were satisfied with the evening’s damage, the attackers left.

Everyone survived. Omar hasn’t forgotten the sight of bullet pockmarks in the building’s cinderblock walls.

Shellshock turned to grief for Omar’s grandpa.

“That was a hard realization for my grandfather, that our family was no longer welcome,” she says. “Even after the attack, he struggled with this new reality.”

Days later, they put their familiar world in the rearview mirror. They split into groups, 20 people in total fleeing. Omar’s headed for the coast where Abukar had connections. Alongside her father, she hopped a plane for Kenya.

“You go from knowing a life of certainty and joy to one where everything is uncertain,” she says. “My family chose to go to Kenya because my grandfather had contacts there.”

Successful members of the Siad Barre regime, such as Omar’s putative ancestors, did not promote democracy. Instead, the Somali government espoused a peculiar hybrid of Marxism-Leninism, Islam, and militaristic Somali nationalism. From the New York Times in 1977:

Somalia Tries to Live by Both the Koran and ‘Das Kapital’

By JOHN DARNTON OCT. 11, 1977

MOGADISHU, Somalia—… The episode underscores the peculiar position of Somalia, a nation of almost four million people, the majority of them nomads, as it struggles to move into the modern world under the banners of both Islam and Marxism.

The attempt to straddle, if not to merge. the two is the most striking feature of the Government of President Mohammed Siad Barre. who took power from a corrupt and fragmented civilian regime in a bloodless coup eight years ago and has securely ruled the country since.

Under his leadership Somalia became the only non‐Arabic speaking nation to join the Arab League and also the first country in black Africa to sign a treaty of friendship and cooperation with the Soviet Union.

A third potent force in the country’s collective consciousness—nationalism—is expressed in the vision of a “greater Somalia” that would unite all Somalia speaking peoples spread through three other countries in the Horn of Africa.

President Siad Barre has often insisted that Marx and Mohammed are not only compatible but also complimentary, that the religious asceticism of Islam can combine with the concept of mass discipline inherent in “scientific socialism” to forge a strong national will and lift the country from the ranks of the 25 poorest nations.

… “There is no chapter, not even a single word, in our Koran that opposes scientific socialism. We say, ‘Where is the contradiction? The contradiction was created by man only.’”

To the outside parties closely involved in the developments on the Horn of Africa, however, the contradiction, in geopolitical terms, seems real indeed.

Saudi Arabia, the main source of money among conservative Arab nations contesting Soviet influence along the Red Sea, is exerting pressure upon Mogadishu to break its ties with Moscow, playing upon Arab solidarity.

The Soviet Union, at the same time, is trying to persuade Somalia to curb its nationalism in the interests of international Marxist brotherhood. …

Shortly thereafter, Somalia invaded Ethiopia, a fellow Communist country and ally of the Soviet Union. In response to Somali aggression against another Moscow client state, the Soviets cut off aid to Somalia and backed Ethiopia, which defeated Somalia. Rep. Omar’s family’s regime survived another dozen years, but had to be increasingly genocidal to hang on to power until 1991.

In Somalia, where there were only four factories at independence in 1960, scientific socialism is laboring to take root in a pre‐industrial society. It has meant mostly the mobilization of collective labor to build Chinese — style “self — help”

Many of these projects are impressive, ranging from street‐cleaning brigades that have made Mogadishu one of the cleanest cities in Africa

Uh-oh, being against littering seems kind of racist in the Current Year.

Several years ago the Government tried to restrict the chewing of khat, the narcotic weed whose daily consumption eats up the income of most Somali wage‐earners. The effort failed, because khat is so much a part of daily life. …

“Somalia is a country of three M’s: Marx, Mohammed and the Mad Mullah,” a Western diplomat said, using the British nickname for Sayid Mahammed Abdulla Hassan, the Somali nationalist leader of half a century ago. “I leave it to you to decide which ‘M’ is the most powerful.”

 
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  1. TL;DR.

    In the words of Georgia Rep. Erica Thomas:

    “Go back where you came from!”

  2. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:

    • Replies: @El Dato
    "Dear 'Sweden Yes'":

    - Assange: We want him (thanks for the help btw)
    - A$AP: We want him too, but differently
    , @Pericles
    I've now seen the video of the martyrdom of poor ASAP; it's a bunch of negroes fighting outside a fast food place. Quite mild by World Star Hiphop standards actually, though regrettably against our laws.

    Let's make a deal, Trump. We send you the one you want and you take another fifty of ours with him.
  3. My condolences to our British friends.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-boris-johnson-immigration-policy-home-office-priti-patel-free-movement-a9020871.html

    Boris Johnson has ripped up Theresa May’s plans for immigration after Brexit – including her infamous pledge to slash annual numbers to “tens of thousands” – and ordered officials to explore more liberal rules.

    In his first Commons statement, the new prime minister said advisers would work up plans for “an Australian-style points-based system”, declining to set any limit on migrants.

    The announcement is a victory for The Independent’s Drop the Target campaign launched in April 2017, with the Open Britain group, for the “tens of thousands” policy to be scrapped.

    Mr Johnson also repeated his support for an amnesty for existing migrants without documents, acknowledging it could see “perhaps half a million people” gaining the right to remain in the UK.

    • Replies: @Lot
    :(

    I already miss May.

    Once Brexit is over with, migration policy can be the new focus of English nationalism.

    Though the UK wasn’t actually meeting its numerical limit policy on migration, at least it was a goal.
    , @PiltdownMan
    It may or may not be relevant, but Boris Johnson's ex wife, with whom he has four children, is half-Sikh.

    https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/sunday-special/columns/british-pm-hopeful-s-sikh-connection/798289.html

    Boris Johnson's great-grandfather was the Turkish journalist and politician, Ali Kemal, who was lynched in Istanbul during the turmoil that preceded the ascendancy of Kemal Ataturk and the first Turkish Republic. It is entirely possible that Boris Johnson has a soft spot for non-white immigrants, especially from the elites of other countries.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Kemal

  4. A fine pedigree.

    OT?

    The Trumpster was born in 1946. Boris Johnson was born in New York in 1964. Orange hair. I’m not saying, I’m just sayin’.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    I’ve noticed the resemblance.
    , @Cagey Beast
    The Trumpster was born in 1946. Boris Johnson was born in New York in 1964. Orange hair. I’m not saying, I’m just sayin’.

    Boris Johnson may be the love child of Donald Trump? Now there's a season finale plot twist both Trump and BoJo could use in an election year.
  5. Let’s be fair for a moment (LOL), and try to process this phenomenon through the lens of traditional American history, and indeed Western political history, because all other things being equal, the West is where this flagrant foreign invader has made her ostensible bed, and it’s where she intends to lie. So for one comical moment, let’s take her at her word.

    In the old world of Real America, there was a sort of generalized “cursus honorum” which was inter-generational (at least for dumb goyim): Great-grandpappy staggers off the boat with nothing to offer the New World but tuberculosis and cheap illiterate unskilled labor. However his son, Grandpappy, becomes a unionized worker, maybe a sand-hog or an iron worker or a railway man; in any event he does something useful to build America. Probably becomes active in his church, and maybe in his old age he’s an Elk or a K of C guy or an alderman. HIS son, Pappy, serves in the military, goes to college on the GI Bill, becomes a middle-manager or a factory foreman or a corporate salesman, maybe he reads a little Updike and Vonnegut, in his dotage aspires to City Councilman. HIS son, you, is now a lawyer or a tech professional or something weird and is rapidly becoming divorced and deracinated, runs for Mayor or Congress or State Senate on a platform of Let’s Destroy America without really thinking the whole thing through, doesn’t really mean it, after all his people built America, it’s just the hipster thing to say.

    Meanwhile Omar and her cohort arrive here unasked-for, unwanted (and legitimately so), unconnected to anything having to do with this country, its culture, its history or its heritage, contribute literally nothing to America, piggyback shamelessly off the fact that their skin color just happens to be the same as the skin color of some actual Americans who were treated badly over a century ago, and immediately get to work being Affirmative Actioned-ed straight up the ranks, right into Congress itself, on the same glib hipster platform of Hey, Let’s Destroy America.

    Except that people like her actually mean it.

  6. People identified me in ways that were foreign to me, and therefore awesome, and better than the ways I had been identifying myself.

    • Agree: bomag
  7. So Omar’s clan were apparatchik in a Marxist-Jihadist regime. That totally checks out.

    We really know how to pick ’em.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Who specifically signs the approval documents that grant the visas, asylum invitations, refugee approvals etc ?

    Is there some autonomous machine in the corner that just spits out these documents ? Perhaps a man in a short sleeve white shirt and clip on tie ferociously rubber stamping paperwork for 8 hours a day ?
    Do any of the involved staff at these agencies speak arabic, somali, have access to relevant documents, knowledge of east African cold war history. Is that the correct use of our nations resources to perform these formidable fictional tasks ?


    This is the deep state. Without knowing the specific series of events and the people who approve this it will never be stopped.

    Who approved the refugee grant ?
    , @Anonymous

    Successful members of the Siad Barre regime, such as Omar’s putative ancestors, did not promote democracy. Instead, the Somali government espoused a peculiar hybrid of Marxism-Leninism, Islam, and militaristic Somali nationalism.
     
    Depends what one means by "democracy". If it means something like a hybrid of neoliberalism and Cultural Marxism, like it does according to the mainstream Western definition nowadays, then it indeed was not a democracy.

    But you could make the case that the leftist nationalist, state socialist regimes like Barre's that were non-aligned or aligned with the USSR were actually more democratic than what gets officially approved as "democracy" by liberal elites these days.
    , @Anonymous
    No, modern jihadist ideology was devised by Brzezinski and other Deep State officials in concert with US allies like the Saudis to be used to undermine more secular oriented Islamic states like the Barre regime that were independent, non-aligned, or Soviet aligned. The Barre regime was more like the Gaddafi and Assad regimes, or Saddam's Baathist Iraq.
    , @Redneck farmer
    Well, they have to have the proper background for when the CIA installs them as President.
    , @CrunchybutRealistCon
    Why would any 1st World Country trust applicants from Failed States or 3rd World dictatorships ? How can their details be verified if there are no reliable state records, no culture of honesty, transparency? People could just invent names, ages, backgrounds, education, etc etc.
    No wonder the thugs of these countries flee to the gullible countries of the West. They can lie with impunity, bilk welfare benefits, cry racism if challenged, and even return to their homelands for vacations on the taxpayer dime.
    Beyond Farce.
    110% Clown World
  8. OT: the top trend on Twitter is Emmett Till, turns out some frat boys vandalized a sign about him

    • Replies: @t
    https://www.propublica.org/article/ole-miss-students-pose-with-guns-in-front-of-shot-up-emmett-till-memorial
    , @guest
    Is this like a disrespecting Muhammad thing or a pissing on Christ thing?
    , @Logan
    He said the university will continue to build programs to engage students in “deliberate, honest and candid conversations while making clear that we unequivocally reject attitudes that do not respect the dignity of each individual in our community.”

    So the honest and candid part is just blowing smoke.
  9. 1977: Somalia, a nation of almost four million people

    2019: About 12 million people occupy this land

    • Replies: @bomag
    Do you want a vision of the future? Imagine the population of Somalia tripling every 42 years.
  10. The old man watched too much American television

  11. @t
    OT: the top trend on Twitter is Emmett Till, turns out some frat boys vandalized a sign about him
    • Replies: @Tiny Duck
    I hope those jerks get what's coming to then
    , @Cloudbuster
    Just off hand, the holes in the sign look the wrong size and pattern for both those guns.
    , @Pericles
    If it's real, good, it should happen more often. If not, dare to dream.

    Tangentially, 'pro publica' makes me think of public-spirited old organizations founded and maintained by whites, not anti-civilizational jewish outfits. But that's the modern world, I guess.
  12. The op-ed was not written by a first generation native Somali speaker. It’s composition is almost perfect, as though written by a white or Jewish English major at Brown.

    Ilhan Omar is using DNC ghost writers to promote herself.

    • Replies: @guest
    Well, we don't expect politicians to ever write anything. I'm not sure exactly what it is they do all day, but certainly they're not slaving over a typewriter.

    I do not blame them. I mean, once college finished I never really worked out math problems beyond arithmetic again. Writing isn't for most, and doing it for a wide audience that might actually be paying attention is dangerous.
    , @Alden
    She lived in Kenya from age 2-12. English is an official language and Kenyan schools are English language She was English schooled in the refugee center she lived in.

    Then middle, high school and college in the US. I understand all her jobs before Congress were NGO activist jobs. Those jobs involve lots of speaking and writing.

    Someone with an English schooling background such as her’s could have written the article. Or someone else could have written it as you suspect.
  13. “street‐cleaning brigades”

    Maybe California should hire people to clean up the litter. Oh yeah, all the money is going to retired mostly white people.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    I wonder who poops in the street more?

    San Fran or Somalia?
    , @Lurker
    When those retired whites are gone, who will you blame then?

    And of course its mostly not the white retirees doing the littering.
    , @stillCARealist
    Occasionally groups of volunteers go out and clean up trash around my area. Mostly retired white people and their grandkids.

    If Mexicans do voluntary cleanups, good for them, but I've never seen it.
    , @bomag

    ...all the money is going to retired mostly white people.
     
    So this needs to become yet another activity funded by retired white people.
    , @William Badwhite
    As it should
  14. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666
    So Omar's clan were apparatchik in a Marxist-Jihadist regime. That totally checks out.

    We really know how to pick 'em.

    Who specifically signs the approval documents that grant the visas, asylum invitations, refugee approvals etc ?

    Is there some autonomous machine in the corner that just spits out these documents ? Perhaps a man in a short sleeve white shirt and clip on tie ferociously rubber stamping paperwork for 8 hours a day ?
    Do any of the involved staff at these agencies speak arabic, somali, have access to relevant documents, knowledge of east African cold war history. Is that the correct use of our nations resources to perform these formidable fictional tasks ?

    This is the deep state. Without knowing the specific series of events and the people who approve this it will never be stopped.

    Who approved the refugee grant ?

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    You're asking too many questions, which makes you a conspiracy theorist and racist. Good People just trust the government when it comes to things like that.
    , @guest
    There is a man, in my imagination. His is the final decision, and his name is Roy Bean:

    https://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/life-and-times.jpg
    , @Pericles
    The US likes to collect and stash away various losers of the political high-wire games for future uses, doesn't it? I guess that Gulen guy must have been a disappointment when he failed against Erdogan.
    , @bomag

    Is there some autonomous machine in the corner that just spits out these documents ?
     
    I've seen some pretty criminally minded people come through the legal immigration system.

    Largest problem is the legions of "immigration lawyers" who see their job as the equivalent of a defense attorney trying to free a client. They spin and massage the documents to the max for low level people with no money; I imagine someone at a higher level like Ilhan had a team of such.

    And the sending countries do what they can to shed themselves of these awesomely vibrant and diverse.
  15. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666
    So Omar's clan were apparatchik in a Marxist-Jihadist regime. That totally checks out.

    We really know how to pick 'em.

    Successful members of the Siad Barre regime, such as Omar’s putative ancestors, did not promote democracy. Instead, the Somali government espoused a peculiar hybrid of Marxism-Leninism, Islam, and militaristic Somali nationalism.

    Depends what one means by “democracy”. If it means something like a hybrid of neoliberalism and Cultural Marxism, like it does according to the mainstream Western definition nowadays, then it indeed was not a democracy.

    But you could make the case that the leftist nationalist, state socialist regimes like Barre’s that were non-aligned or aligned with the USSR were actually more democratic than what gets officially approved as “democracy” by liberal elites these days.

    • Replies: @Pericles

    But you could make the case that the leftist nationalist, state socialist regimes like Barre’s that were non-aligned or aligned with the USSR were actually more democratic than what gets officially approved as “democracy” by liberal elites these days.

     

    In the sense that neither is democracy but the former are less confusing?
  16. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666
    So Omar's clan were apparatchik in a Marxist-Jihadist regime. That totally checks out.

    We really know how to pick 'em.

    No, modern jihadist ideology was devised by Brzezinski and other Deep State officials in concert with US allies like the Saudis to be used to undermine more secular oriented Islamic states like the Barre regime that were independent, non-aligned, or Soviet aligned. The Barre regime was more like the Gaddafi and Assad regimes, or Saddam’s Baathist Iraq.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    No, modern jihadist ideology was devised by Brzezinski and other Deep State officials in concert with US allies like the Saudis to be used to undermine more secular oriented Islamic states like the Barre regime that were independent, non-aligned, or Soviet aligned.
     
    No, it was not devised by the US. Used, yes. Devised no.

    These fundamentalist counter-reactions to rapid modernization/secularization of traditional societies are pretty much "per spec". People are discombobulated by the changes--families, employment, marriage, etc.--and latch on to traditional structures which promise some sort of stability and identity. Religion is the most powerful. Sociology 101.

    Sayyid Qutb was cooking up his Sunni version of this in one of Nasser's jails after being put off by the sexuality of post-War America and scandalized by a church dance in Greeley Colorado ... in 1949. (What would he think today!) The Saudis made a deal with their Wahhabi loons, and have effectively financed fundy Sunni Islam all over the world with their oil money.

    But the Shiites in Iran had their very similar fundy counter-reaction and it worked to toss out the US friendly Shah.

    This sort of reaction just is. And the disruption in the muslim world by having Western modernity so utterly dominate them--embarrass them for their incompetence and impotence (against Israel)--is worse than most. How these reactions run, what use they are put to are political/historical questions, but the reaction itself isn't something the US or anyone else creates.
  17. So her family were refugees sort of in the same way that Adolf Eichmann was a refugee in Argentina.

    • Agree: Lot
    • LOL: Federalist, Alden, bomag
    • Replies: @Kronos
    Or French aristocrats fleeing the Revolution.
  18. @Hypnotoad666
    So Omar's clan were apparatchik in a Marxist-Jihadist regime. That totally checks out.

    We really know how to pick 'em.

    Well, they have to have the proper background for when the CIA installs them as President.

  19. The US political establishment is DESPERATE for moderate/high IQ African Americans. Ones (like Obama) with few or any ties with domestic black groups. Omar fits the bill, despite murky ties with a brutal dictatorship. White liberals are still afraid of another Mayor Barry coming in and destroying all the hard work of gentrification.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    There are some moderate to high IQ blacks where I work, but they tend to be Oreo-type center Leftists.

    One is such an enormous Oreo he has a picture of Opie hanging on the outside of his cube.
  20. @snorlax
    My condolences to our British friends.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-boris-johnson-immigration-policy-home-office-priti-patel-free-movement-a9020871.html

    Boris Johnson has ripped up Theresa May’s plans for immigration after Brexit – including her infamous pledge to slash annual numbers to “tens of thousands” – and ordered officials to explore more liberal rules.

    In his first Commons statement, the new prime minister said advisers would work up plans for “an Australian-style points-based system”, declining to set any limit on migrants.

    The announcement is a victory for The Independent's Drop the Target campaign launched in April 2017, with the Open Britain group, for the “tens of thousands” policy to be scrapped.

    Mr Johnson also repeated his support for an amnesty for existing migrants without documents, acknowledging it could see “perhaps half a million people” gaining the right to remain in the UK.

    ...
     

    🙁

    I already miss May.

    Once Brexit is over with, migration policy can be the new focus of English nationalism.

    Though the UK wasn’t actually meeting its numerical limit policy on migration, at least it was a goal.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    I already miss May.
     
    May was pathetic--un-"missable".

    But it's ridiculous--nuts, insane--that the British *Conservative* party can't come up with man for their leader who actually wants to conserve Britain.

    This is a nation that repeatedly fought wars not just to keep their independence, but instigated wars to keep any continental power from being able to rise to the point of being able to threaten Britian's absolute freedom of action.

    Now it can't find a leader willing to stop foreign invasion?
  21. ‘Of course, everything about Rep. Omar’s personal and family history is murky. But here’s her own version of this story as recounted in City Pages in 2016. Her family, rather than be democratic dissidents as she implies today, appears to have been successful servants of the bloody dictatorship of Siad Barre (1969-1991).’

    Well, you do have to put meat on the table — and stay out of the torture cells. Would you have done different?

    Tell us about that great, anonymous, futile stand you would have made. I’m all ears. I’ll credit it.

    I’m not exactly going to bat for Ms. Omar. I am certainly disinclined to be excessively picky about whatever her family may have done to stay alive in Somalia.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    I’m not exactly going to bat for Ms. Omar. I am certainly disinclined to be excessively picky about whatever her family may have done to stay alive in Somalia.
     
    Who cares. She has no business being in the US.

    Muslims have absolutely no business being in the US or the West in general. They are the historic enemy of the West.

    But even beyond that Somalia is a pit with crappy low human capital. The US does not need any more people. It would have done just fine not taking any people after 1776, and certainly didn't need to take any once the frontier closed. Taking people now is just population replacement. Taking people from Somali--stupid and muslim hence culturally incompatible--is nuts.
    , @Cloudbuster
    One would hope it would be the job of immigration officials to be "excessively picky" about whatever her family may have done to stay alive in Somalia.
    , @Ghost of Bull Moose

    I’m not exactly going to bat for Ms. Omar.
     
    Of course you are.
  22. Omar is s hero and the future of America

    She has told the truth and correctly pointed out that white “men” are the terrorists domestically

    She scares you guys because she represents the future and is a sign that white guys will have to earn their keep instead of having everything handed to them

    The truth is that white male christians are pediphiles and murdererd

    We are sick of it and are not going to take it anymore

    • Troll: IHTG
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The truth is that white male christians are pediphiles and murdererd
     
    https://www.tripsavvy.com/thmb/lutwXD400IIqqW29AFcrJ5U9njI=/950x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/pedicab_feb-2012-56a2315c5f9b58b7d0c7b4ed.jpg

    https://www.moneycrashers.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/pedicab-driving-how-it-works-1068x713.jpg
    , @Johnny789
    Omar's daughters are gonna spit out more half breeds than Diana Ross and be loyal and productive members of Trinity Lutheran Church (ELCA, of course) for the rest of their lives.
  23. “The Africans” by David Lamb is a very instructive book to read about the intricacies of the continent.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    That's the book Obama read on his way to Kenya and it depressed him.
  24. President Siad Barre has often insisted that Marx and Mohammed are not only compatible but also complimentary [sic]

    Gotcha, Mr. Smarty-Pants New York Times.

    • Replies: @Charon
    A couple generations ago, NYT copy editors were reasonably competent. But then so were most of society.
    , @Achmed E. Newman

    “Somalia is a country of three M’s: Marx, Mohammed and the Mad Mullah."
     
    Meanwhile, America was a country of Bears, Beets, and Battlestar Galactica.
    , @Cagey Beast
    Funny, I don't remember ever hearing about that one:
    Complementary vs. Complimentary: How to Choose the Right Word
    What fits together and what's free for the asking?

    https://www.thoughtco.com/complementary-and-complimentary-1689348
  25. @snorlax
    My condolences to our British friends.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-boris-johnson-immigration-policy-home-office-priti-patel-free-movement-a9020871.html

    Boris Johnson has ripped up Theresa May’s plans for immigration after Brexit – including her infamous pledge to slash annual numbers to “tens of thousands” – and ordered officials to explore more liberal rules.

    In his first Commons statement, the new prime minister said advisers would work up plans for “an Australian-style points-based system”, declining to set any limit on migrants.

    The announcement is a victory for The Independent's Drop the Target campaign launched in April 2017, with the Open Britain group, for the “tens of thousands” policy to be scrapped.

    Mr Johnson also repeated his support for an amnesty for existing migrants without documents, acknowledging it could see “perhaps half a million people” gaining the right to remain in the UK.

    ...
     

    It may or may not be relevant, but Boris Johnson’s ex wife, with whom he has four children, is half-Sikh.

    https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/sunday-special/columns/british-pm-hopeful-s-sikh-connection/798289.html

    Boris Johnson’s great-grandfather was the Turkish journalist and politician, Ali Kemal, who was lynched in Istanbul during the turmoil that preceded the ascendancy of Kemal Ataturk and the first Turkish Republic. It is entirely possible that Boris Johnson has a soft spot for non-white immigrants, especially from the elites of other countries.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Kemal

    • Replies: @bomag

    It is entirely possible that Boris Johnson has a soft spot for non-white immigrants, especially from the elites of other countries.
     
    Then he probably shouldn't be prime minister.
  26. @Harry Baldwin
    President Siad Barre has often insisted that Marx and Mohammed are not only compatible but also complimentary [sic]

    Gotcha, Mr. Smarty-Pants New York Times.

    A couple generations ago, NYT copy editors were reasonably competent. But then so were most of society.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    Do you believe the New York Times will eventually die in the near future? (Maybe ten years?)

    If so, any bets on what will replace it?
  27. a refugee camp in Kenya, where there was no formal schooling

    Balderdash.

    A Somali refugee told me it was the policy of Kenya and the camps that refugees waiting for resettlement abroad were required to take classes in English.

    And don’t tell me there weren’t qualified teachers. There are over a million Somalis native to Kenya, and thus fluent in English, which is official. Many were eminently qualified to explain the subtleties of the two languages.

    The men were rushed abroad, often with choppy language skills, but it was a common experience in the Twin Cities to meet an adult Somali woman, sometimes of advanced age, who spoke excellent, albeit Imperial, English.

    Of course, some of those could have been Kenyan-born Somalis, and thus refugee frauds. That does cross one’s mind.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    Good point. The sole medium of instruction in schools and colleges in Kenya is English. Even their legal system and court proceedings are held in English.

    It is highly unlikely that a young Somali child refugee could have spent any length of time in Kenya without picking up English, if there were any formal classes at all.

    , @Mr. XYZ

    Of course, some of those could have been Kenyan-born Somalis, and thus refugee frauds. That does cross one’s mind.
     
    Does it really matter? After all, isn't diversity Our Strength?(TM)
  28. Omar’s grandpa served a Marxist-Leninist regime that launched a war of aggression against its neighbors, and committed genocide against a rival clan. Even if he had no blood on his hands, he should have been treated in the same way as a card-carrying member of the Nazi party and been denied US citizenship.

    The America we arrived in was different from the one my grandfather had hoped to find. The land of opportunity he imagined was in fact full of challenges. People identified me in ways that were foreign to me: immigrant, black. I learned that these identities carried stigmas, and I experienced prejudice as a visibly Muslim woman.

    Oh, the horror of meeting American deplorables! How challenging and unfamiliar is their prejudice compared to the warm, homely friendship of Somalis!

    Men with big guns demanded to be let in. The group tried to bust down the front door, but it was unbreakable. Omar and her family fell to the floor moments before the militiamen let go a staccato of gunfire. Once they were satisfied with the evening’s damage, the attackers left.

    If I were Omar, I would be so darned grateful to have found my way to a safe, prosperous, and free country, that I would be embarrassed even to mention its comparatively trifling political issues.

    Part of her problem may be that she believes the family stories that she was told when she was growing up. When, in the coming months, the media establish the real history of her family and its role in the Barre regime, Omar might be hearing these things for the first time.

    • Replies: @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    What makes you think the media will ever mention that real history?? It's not 1965 anymore. The media do not care one iota about the truth. This is a total ideological and political war.
    , @User1234
    What they were upset about was their class status. It didn't come with them. Like Alicia Machado.

    In America they were the help or the dregs.
  29. I also couldn’t help but remember the horrors of civil war in Somalia that my family and I escaped

    She misspelled “caused.”

  30. “You would need a heart of stone not to have been moved by the little AIDS-ridden choristers.” — Boris Johnson on Uganda

    “The continent may be a blot, but it is not a blot on our conscience. The problem is not that we were once in charge, but that we are not in charge anymore.“ —Boris Johnson, again on Uganda

  31. @Reg Cæsar

    a refugee camp in Kenya, where there was no formal schooling
     
    Balderdash.

    A Somali refugee told me it was the policy of Kenya and the camps that refugees waiting for resettlement abroad were required to take classes in English.

    And don't tell me there weren't qualified teachers. There are over a million Somalis native to Kenya, and thus fluent in English, which is official. Many were eminently qualified to explain the subtleties of the two languages.

    The men were rushed abroad, often with choppy language skills, but it was a common experience in the Twin Cities to meet an adult Somali woman, sometimes of advanced age, who spoke excellent, albeit Imperial, English.

    Of course, some of those could have been Kenyan-born Somalis, and thus refugee frauds. That does cross one's mind.

    Good point. The sole medium of instruction in schools and colleges in Kenya is English. Even their legal system and court proceedings are held in English.

    It is highly unlikely that a young Somali child refugee could have spent any length of time in Kenya without picking up English, if there were any formal classes at all.

  32. I should have added, YouTube has a number of videos depicting English language schools in the Somali refugee camps of Kenya.

  33. Still, one has to wonder that, with the same order-of-magnitude number of “assault weapons” (they mean ARs and AKs), and probably an order-of-magnitude more of higher-powered rifles, America still does not have quite the problems of Somalia, in terms of the violence. That is, except for in certain inner city neighborhoods, for some reason. It can’t be “the people”, cause you just can’t say that.

    Great job, Steve, in putting these articles together. You can point out the lies very thoroughly, but the Lyin’ Press will not want to hear it.

    Send her back!

  34. @Harry Baldwin
    President Siad Barre has often insisted that Marx and Mohammed are not only compatible but also complimentary [sic]

    Gotcha, Mr. Smarty-Pants New York Times.

    “Somalia is a country of three M’s: Marx, Mohammed and the Mad Mullah.”

    Meanwhile, America was a country of Bears, Beets, and Battlestar Galactica.

  35. @Hypnotoad666
    So Omar's clan were apparatchik in a Marxist-Jihadist regime. That totally checks out.

    We really know how to pick 'em.

    Why would any 1st World Country trust applicants from Failed States or 3rd World dictatorships ? How can their details be verified if there are no reliable state records, no culture of honesty, transparency? People could just invent names, ages, backgrounds, education, etc etc.
    No wonder the thugs of these countries flee to the gullible countries of the West. They can lie with impunity, bilk welfare benefits, cry racism if challenged, and even return to their homelands for vacations on the taxpayer dime.
    Beyond Farce.
    110% Clown World

    • Agree: GermanReader2, Kylie
  36. “it was in the diverse community of Minneapolis — the very community that welcomed me home with open arms after Mr. Trump’s attacks against me last week — where I learned the true value of [INSERT APPROPRIATE WORD]”

  37. I think you have to read Black Mischief by Evelyn Waugh to understand Ms. Omar.

  38. • Replies: @eah
    https://twitter.com/mollyfprince/status/1154039284950716419
    , @Paco Wové
    The Reason article is a lie. Though I have to give them credit for posting the full transcript of what Omar said, which is every bit as bad as the "fake news" has it.
    , @Jack Hanson
    Libertarian terrified of being called "wayciss", news at 11.
  39. An African-born politician creates a phony origin story to dupe self-hating whites? Huh…

    “Dreams of My Grandfather”?

  40. Everyone agrees white men are the problem

  41. Everyone understands that white males are the issue

  42. @Reg Cæsar

    a refugee camp in Kenya, where there was no formal schooling
     
    Balderdash.

    A Somali refugee told me it was the policy of Kenya and the camps that refugees waiting for resettlement abroad were required to take classes in English.

    And don't tell me there weren't qualified teachers. There are over a million Somalis native to Kenya, and thus fluent in English, which is official. Many were eminently qualified to explain the subtleties of the two languages.

    The men were rushed abroad, often with choppy language skills, but it was a common experience in the Twin Cities to meet an adult Somali woman, sometimes of advanced age, who spoke excellent, albeit Imperial, English.

    Of course, some of those could have been Kenyan-born Somalis, and thus refugee frauds. That does cross one's mind.

    Of course, some of those could have been Kenyan-born Somalis, and thus refugee frauds. That does cross one’s mind.

    Does it really matter? After all, isn’t diversity Our Strength?(TM)

  43. “Somalia’s National Marine Transport director”

    The Omar’s-husband-was-her-brother theory depends on the family actually being surnamed Elmi and the America bound members adopting the name Omar for some fraudulent reason. If her grandfather was a gov’t official you’d think this could be checked somehow. Here’s the list of men who served as Somalia’s Marine Transport Minister after the office was created. No Abukar or Omar or Elmi. Of course he is described as the “director”, not the minister so perhaps he did not run the full ministry.

    MINISTER OF FISHERY AND MARINE TRANSPORT
    Osman Jama Ali 1973–1976

    MINISTERS OF PORTS AND MARINE TRANSPORT
    Abdalla Mohamed Fadil 1977–1978
    Mohmoud Gelle Yusuf 1978–1982
    Abdisalam Sheikh Hussein 1982–1984
    Mohmoud Gelle Yusuf 1984–1987
    Mohmoud Gelle Yusuf 1989–1990

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The Omar’s-husband-was-her-brother theory depends on the family actually being surnamed Elmi
     
    Somalis don't have surnames, they use patronymics.
    , @Stunned Billionaire
    Hey, can you work your search magic on her mother? Wikipedia says that her mother's name was Fadhuma Abukar Haji Hussein. Of course, who knows if that is correct. "Ilhan Omar’s Road to Washington" by Michelle Bruch states that "Her mother’s first job was assistant to the minister of petroleum, Omar said, and she later became a department director." It would be interesting to see whether that job could be confirmed, or even if any female could be found listed for these jobs. If so, perhaps her real name could be inferred that way.

    I've also seen her mother variously described as part-Arab, part-Yemeni, or Benadiri (a member of a group of wealthy Somali merchants of mixed Arab/Persian/South Asian background). I even recently saw a tweet saying that her Mom was a Houthi, which implied that this tied into the geopolitics of the current Saudi Arabia - Israel - -U.A.E.- USA vs. Iran - Yemen - Qatar axes ( see Foreign Policy: "Saudi Arabia Declares War on America’s Muslim Congresswomen" and Al-Arabiya: "Details of calls to attack Trump by US ‘Muslim Sisters’ allied to Brotherhood" for more on that.)

    I'm curious to see what you can find.
  44. Putative Grandfather ? Do you think that there is any doubt ?

    • Replies: @Clyde

    Putative Grandfather ? Do you think that there is any doubt ?
     
    YES! Omar is not her real family name. It is Elmi. Elmi same as the brother she married for immigration fraud. PLUS Ilhan scammed her way into America by claiming she was an Omar. A DNA test will show her immigration fraud on this stunt.

    The Omar family was living here (USA) when they got approval for Ilhan (Elmi) to immigrate here by claiming Ilhan was a biological daughter. All this was written last week in the Powerline Blog.

  45. I really wouldn’t be too harsh in judging Somalis nostalgic for the reign of Siad Barre, considering what happened afterwards.

    • Replies: @TGGP
    Peter Leeson argues that the old regime was bad enough that anarchy was an improvement for Somalia:
    https://www.peterleeson.com/Better_Off_Stateless.pdf
  46. She’s a con, but she’s nice looking and has a sense of humor, so I’ll forgive her.

  47. @nebulafox
    I really wouldn't be too harsh in judging Somalis nostalgic for the reign of Siad Barre, considering what happened afterwards.

    Peter Leeson argues that the old regime was bad enough that anarchy was an improvement for Somalia:
    https://www.peterleeson.com/Better_Off_Stateless.pdf

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Peter Leeson is an idiot who has probably spent his entire life in American suburbs. Any order, no matter how flawed, is better than no order at all.
  48. @TGGP
    Peter Leeson argues that the old regime was bad enough that anarchy was an improvement for Somalia:
    https://www.peterleeson.com/Better_Off_Stateless.pdf

    Peter Leeson is an idiot who has probably spent his entire life in American suburbs. Any order, no matter how flawed, is better than no order at all.

  49. @ArthurinCali
    "The Africans" by David Lamb is a very instructive book to read about the intricacies of the continent.

    That’s the book Obama read on his way to Kenya and it depressed him.

  50. @Anonymous
    Who specifically signs the approval documents that grant the visas, asylum invitations, refugee approvals etc ?

    Is there some autonomous machine in the corner that just spits out these documents ? Perhaps a man in a short sleeve white shirt and clip on tie ferociously rubber stamping paperwork for 8 hours a day ?
    Do any of the involved staff at these agencies speak arabic, somali, have access to relevant documents, knowledge of east African cold war history. Is that the correct use of our nations resources to perform these formidable fictional tasks ?


    This is the deep state. Without knowing the specific series of events and the people who approve this it will never be stopped.

    Who approved the refugee grant ?

    You’re asking too many questions, which makes you a conspiracy theorist and racist. Good People just trust the government when it comes to things like that.

  51. @Tiny Duck
    Omar is s hero and the future of America

    She has told the truth and correctly pointed out that white "men" are the terrorists domestically

    She scares you guys because she represents the future and is a sign that white guys will have to earn their keep instead of having everything handed to them

    The truth is that white male christians are pediphiles and murdererd

    We are sick of it and are not going to take it anymore

    The truth is that white male christians are pediphiles and murdererd

    • LOL: Bubba
    • Replies: @El Dato
    Public service announcement:

    We have a good meme image for top cuckery here.
  52. Having survived civil war in my home country as a child, I cherish these values. In Somalia’s capital, Mogadishu, I saw grade-school children as young as me holding assault rifles in the streets. …

    Hmm … maybe not the place where one would go to draw first class immigrants?

    The America we arrived in was different from the one my grandfather had hoped to find. The land of opportunity he imagined was in fact full of challenges. People identified me in ways that were foreign to me: immigrant, black. I learned that these identities carried stigmas, and I experienced prejudice as a visibly Muslim woman.

    So the nation my ancestors built has disappointed her …

    We can fix that …

    Send her back!

    • Replies: @guest
    Imagine, being an immigrant, others noticing you're an immigrant, and feeling foreign things in a land foreign to you.

    It's almost like touching water and feeling out of nowhere a sense of wetness upon the very hand with which you touched the water. How odd!

    , @Pericles
    "Those whites treated me like I belonged to another clan!"
  53. @TwentyCents
    "Somalia’s National Marine Transport director"

    The Omar's-husband-was-her-brother theory depends on the family actually being surnamed Elmi and the America bound members adopting the name Omar for some fraudulent reason. If her grandfather was a gov't official you'd think this could be checked somehow. Here's the list of men who served as Somalia's Marine Transport Minister after the office was created. No Abukar or Omar or Elmi. Of course he is described as the "director", not the minister so perhaps he did not run the full ministry.

    MINISTER OF FISHERY AND MARINE TRANSPORT
    Osman Jama Ali 1973–1976

    MINISTERS OF PORTS AND MARINE TRANSPORT
    Abdalla Mohamed Fadil 1977–1978
    Mohmoud Gelle Yusuf 1978–1982
    Abdisalam Sheikh Hussein 1982–1984
    Mohmoud Gelle Yusuf 1984–1987
    Mohmoud Gelle Yusuf 1989–1990

    The Omar’s-husband-was-her-brother theory depends on the family actually being surnamed Elmi

    Somalis don’t have surnames, they use patronymics.

  54. It’s pretty clear Pelosi s successor is Ilhan Omar. She is the clear choice of gays, urban professional White women, and non Whites.

    Sadly she has African levels of competence, the typical third world aristocrat contempt for ordinary Whites who unlike her actually work for a living.The

    Dems and the left. Doddering old folks like Mueller and this one who makes Hank Guam is ripping over Johnson look like a genius.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Pelosi's successor is going to the whomever in Congress raises the most money for the Democrats from the donors, and who's the best at one-on-one politics. That's not Omar. The big Democratic donors are Jewish. Even they are not going to give money to a screeching anti-Semitic Muslim who wants to see them all dead. They're kicking up a fuss about Omar right now.

    As for the speakership, I doubt Omar's Democratic colleagues trust her farther than they can throw her. Anyone with enough basic self-confidence and political savvy to make it into congress doesn't just go around blindly handing power to people like Omar. You don't make Iago your boss, if you have half a brain. Omar breaks the law without batting an eye, and she stirs up trouble to amuse herself. She's a scheming sociopath, plain and simple. The other Democrats are not going to trust Omar with their careers. They don't want her radicalism messing up their own reelections.
    , @guest
    You can't be serious. Omar is barely an actual politician yet, and she has no constituency that isn't the dregs of the earth. Except for the fact that someone's paying for a great amount of publicity, no one would know her name. Except as "that Somali representative what's-her-name."
  55. @t
    https://www.propublica.org/article/ole-miss-students-pose-with-guns-in-front-of-shot-up-emmett-till-memorial

    I hope those jerks get what’s coming to then

    • Replies: @Johnny789
    Ass, they were protecting it from vandals who are upset about all of the NYT articles about Till. The vandals feel like other victims of racial violence should be recognized as well. Like Johnny Stompanato.
    , @TWS
    Why don't you make up a fake award to go with your ever-changing background and fake history? Maybe a Smollet award for best hoax story? You could bestow it upon these fine folks for something they didn't do.
  56. @Colin Wright
    'Of course, everything about Rep. Omar’s personal and family history is murky. But here’s her own version of this story as recounted in City Pages in 2016. Her family, rather than be democratic dissidents as she implies today, appears to have been successful servants of the bloody dictatorship of Siad Barre (1969-1991).'

    Well, you do have to put meat on the table -- and stay out of the torture cells. Would you have done different?

    Tell us about that great, anonymous, futile stand you would have made. I'm all ears. I'll credit it.

    I'm not exactly going to bat for Ms. Omar. I am certainly disinclined to be excessively picky about whatever her family may have done to stay alive in Somalia.

    I’m not exactly going to bat for Ms. Omar. I am certainly disinclined to be excessively picky about whatever her family may have done to stay alive in Somalia.

    Who cares. She has no business being in the US.

    Muslims have absolutely no business being in the US or the West in general. They are the historic enemy of the West.

    But even beyond that Somalia is a pit with crappy low human capital. The US does not need any more people. It would have done just fine not taking any people after 1776, and certainly didn’t need to take any once the frontier closed. Taking people now is just population replacement. Taking people from Somali–stupid and muslim hence culturally incompatible–is nuts.

  57. @Ozymandias
    A fine pedigree.

    OT?

    The Trumpster was born in 1946. Boris Johnson was born in New York in 1964. Orange hair. I'm not saying, I'm just sayin'.

    I’ve noticed the resemblance.

  58. @George
    "street‐cleaning brigades"

    Maybe California should hire people to clean up the litter. Oh yeah, all the money is going to retired mostly white people.

    I wonder who poops in the street more?

    San Fran or Somalia?

  59. @t
    https://www.propublica.org/article/ole-miss-students-pose-with-guns-in-front-of-shot-up-emmett-till-memorial

    Just off hand, the holes in the sign look the wrong size and pattern for both those guns.

  60. @Colin Wright
    'Of course, everything about Rep. Omar’s personal and family history is murky. But here’s her own version of this story as recounted in City Pages in 2016. Her family, rather than be democratic dissidents as she implies today, appears to have been successful servants of the bloody dictatorship of Siad Barre (1969-1991).'

    Well, you do have to put meat on the table -- and stay out of the torture cells. Would you have done different?

    Tell us about that great, anonymous, futile stand you would have made. I'm all ears. I'll credit it.

    I'm not exactly going to bat for Ms. Omar. I am certainly disinclined to be excessively picky about whatever her family may have done to stay alive in Somalia.

    One would hope it would be the job of immigration officials to be “excessively picky” about whatever her family may have done to stay alive in Somalia.

  61. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/1154491939305037825

    • Replies: @bomag
    This illustrates why we really can't talk to the Ilhan Omars of the world. They just announce that their people are ten times better than yours and that you have to go extinct in service to the greater good.

    Meanwhile, under their care, the crime rate goes up; the water system fails; plumbing in general fails; the electric grid goes down; food distribution fails; and it's all YT's fault.
  62. “The nation’s ideals”

    Whoa there! Nation? This Somalitrix believes in the concept of nationhood? Does that word not burn in her mouth like a fiery-hot coal?

    Also, democracy is racist because it was invented by Greeks.

  63. @t
    OT: the top trend on Twitter is Emmett Till, turns out some frat boys vandalized a sign about him

    Is this like a disrespecting Muhammad thing or a pissing on Christ thing?

  64. With the likes of AOC and Ilhan Omar, how long before the Dem Party and America’s Republic implode? In this order.

  65. @trelane
    The op-ed was not written by a first generation native Somali speaker. It's composition is almost perfect, as though written by a white or Jewish English major at Brown.

    Ilhan Omar is using DNC ghost writers to promote herself.

    Well, we don’t expect politicians to ever write anything. I’m not sure exactly what it is they do all day, but certainly they’re not slaving over a typewriter.

    I do not blame them. I mean, once college finished I never really worked out math problems beyond arithmetic again. Writing isn’t for most, and doing it for a wide audience that might actually be paying attention is dangerous.

  66. @Anonymous
    Who specifically signs the approval documents that grant the visas, asylum invitations, refugee approvals etc ?

    Is there some autonomous machine in the corner that just spits out these documents ? Perhaps a man in a short sleeve white shirt and clip on tie ferociously rubber stamping paperwork for 8 hours a day ?
    Do any of the involved staff at these agencies speak arabic, somali, have access to relevant documents, knowledge of east African cold war history. Is that the correct use of our nations resources to perform these formidable fictional tasks ?


    This is the deep state. Without knowing the specific series of events and the people who approve this it will never be stopped.

    Who approved the refugee grant ?

    There is a man, in my imagination. His is the final decision, and his name is Roy Bean:

  67. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1154502673514684416

    “Dear ‘Sweden Yes’”:

    – Assange: We want him (thanks for the help btw)
    – A$AP: We want him too, but differently

  68. @AnotherDad

    Having survived civil war in my home country as a child, I cherish these values. In Somalia’s capital, Mogadishu, I saw grade-school children as young as me holding assault rifles in the streets. ...
     
    Hmm ... maybe not the place where one would go to draw first class immigrants?

    The America we arrived in was different from the one my grandfather had hoped to find. The land of opportunity he imagined was in fact full of challenges. People identified me in ways that were foreign to me: immigrant, black. I learned that these identities carried stigmas, and I experienced prejudice as a visibly Muslim woman.
     
    So the nation my ancestors built has disappointed her ...

    We can fix that ...

    Send her back!

    Imagine, being an immigrant, others noticing you’re an immigrant, and feeling foreign things in a land foreign to you.

    It’s almost like touching water and feeling out of nowhere a sense of wetness upon the very hand with which you touched the water. How odd!

    • Replies: @The Alarmist

    "Imagine, being an immigrant, others noticing you’re an immigrant, and feeling foreign things in a land foreign to you."
     
    Yeah, I call it waking up every day. I really feel for her, what with working in an institution that is known for minting millionaires, and getting there primarily because she is different.
  69. @Harry Baldwin
    President Siad Barre has often insisted that Marx and Mohammed are not only compatible but also complimentary [sic]

    Gotcha, Mr. Smarty-Pants New York Times.

    Funny, I don’t remember ever hearing about that one:
    Complementary vs. Complimentary: How to Choose the Right Word
    What fits together and what’s free for the asking?

    https://www.thoughtco.com/complementary-and-complimentary-1689348

  70. @Reg Cæsar

    The truth is that white male christians are pediphiles and murdererd
     
    https://www.tripsavvy.com/thmb/lutwXD400IIqqW29AFcrJ5U9njI=/950x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/pedicab_feb-2012-56a2315c5f9b58b7d0c7b4ed.jpg

    https://www.moneycrashers.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/pedicab-driving-how-it-works-1068x713.jpg

    Public service announcement:

    We have a good meme image for top cuckery here.

    • Replies: @guest
    That guy looks more gay than cuckold.
  71. @Tiny Duck
    Omar is s hero and the future of America

    She has told the truth and correctly pointed out that white "men" are the terrorists domestically

    She scares you guys because she represents the future and is a sign that white guys will have to earn their keep instead of having everything handed to them

    The truth is that white male christians are pediphiles and murdererd

    We are sick of it and are not going to take it anymore

    Omar’s daughters are gonna spit out more half breeds than Diana Ross and be loyal and productive members of Trinity Lutheran Church (ELCA, of course) for the rest of their lives.

  72. @Tiny Duck
    I hope those jerks get what's coming to then

    Ass, they were protecting it from vandals who are upset about all of the NYT articles about Till. The vandals feel like other victims of racial violence should be recognized as well. Like Johnny Stompanato.

  73. @WowJustWow
    So her family were refugees sort of in the same way that Adolf Eichmann was a refugee in Argentina.

    Or French aristocrats fleeing the Revolution.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    What the hell?
  74. @Colin Wright
    'Of course, everything about Rep. Omar’s personal and family history is murky. But here’s her own version of this story as recounted in City Pages in 2016. Her family, rather than be democratic dissidents as she implies today, appears to have been successful servants of the bloody dictatorship of Siad Barre (1969-1991).'

    Well, you do have to put meat on the table -- and stay out of the torture cells. Would you have done different?

    Tell us about that great, anonymous, futile stand you would have made. I'm all ears. I'll credit it.

    I'm not exactly going to bat for Ms. Omar. I am certainly disinclined to be excessively picky about whatever her family may have done to stay alive in Somalia.

    I’m not exactly going to bat for Ms. Omar.

    Of course you are.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    'Of course you are.'

    So name another Congressman who is standing up to the Israel lobby.
  75. “Somalia is a country of three M’s: Marx, Mohammed and the Mad Mullah,” a Western diplomat said, using the British nickname for Sayid Mahammed Abdulla Hassan, the Somali nationalist leader of half a century ago. “I leave it to you to decide which ‘M’ is the most powerful.”

    Before they were completely taken over by globohomo ( almost literally. There are so many homosexuals) the Western diplomatic services rewarded this sort of accurate cynicism.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    It's not surprising the diplomatic corps is packed with homos and spinsters. Even cushy assignments in Europe are at odds with normal American family life.
    , @AndrewR
    It stands to reason there's a lot of homosexuals. Diplomats and their staff spend their careers far away from home. I'm assuming they spend more time abroad than even the most frequently-deployed military personnel. Who would want to put children through that?
  76. Anon[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @Whiskey
    It's pretty clear Pelosi s successor is Ilhan Omar. She is the clear choice of gays, urban professional White women, and non Whites.

    Sadly she has African levels of competence, the typical third world aristocrat contempt for ordinary Whites who unlike her actually work for a living.The

    Dems and the left. Doddering old folks like Mueller and this one who makes Hank Guam is ripping over Johnson look like a genius.

    Pelosi’s successor is going to the whomever in Congress raises the most money for the Democrats from the donors, and who’s the best at one-on-one politics. That’s not Omar. The big Democratic donors are Jewish. Even they are not going to give money to a screeching anti-Semitic Muslim who wants to see them all dead. They’re kicking up a fuss about Omar right now.

    As for the speakership, I doubt Omar’s Democratic colleagues trust her farther than they can throw her. Anyone with enough basic self-confidence and political savvy to make it into congress doesn’t just go around blindly handing power to people like Omar. You don’t make Iago your boss, if you have half a brain. Omar breaks the law without batting an eye, and she stirs up trouble to amuse herself. She’s a scheming sociopath, plain and simple. The other Democrats are not going to trust Omar with their careers. They don’t want her radicalism messing up their own reelections.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    "screeching ... who wants to see them all dead."

    What evidence is there for these particular assertions?

    I suspect much of the bashing around here is all about the Benjamins, baby.
  77. @James N. Kennett
    Omar's grandpa served a Marxist-Leninist regime that launched a war of aggression against its neighbors, and committed genocide against a rival clan. Even if he had no blood on his hands, he should have been treated in the same way as a card-carrying member of the Nazi party and been denied US citizenship.

    The America we arrived in was different from the one my grandfather had hoped to find. The land of opportunity he imagined was in fact full of challenges. People identified me in ways that were foreign to me: immigrant, black. I learned that these identities carried stigmas, and I experienced prejudice as a visibly Muslim woman.
     
    Oh, the horror of meeting American deplorables! How challenging and unfamiliar is their prejudice compared to the warm, homely friendship of Somalis!

    Men with big guns demanded to be let in. The group tried to bust down the front door, but it was unbreakable. Omar and her family fell to the floor moments before the militiamen let go a staccato of gunfire. Once they were satisfied with the evening’s damage, the attackers left.
     
    If I were Omar, I would be so darned grateful to have found my way to a safe, prosperous, and free country, that I would be embarrassed even to mention its comparatively trifling political issues.

    Part of her problem may be that she believes the family stories that she was told when she was growing up. When, in the coming months, the media establish the real history of her family and its role in the Barre regime, Omar might be hearing these things for the first time.

    What makes you think the media will ever mention that real history?? It’s not 1965 anymore. The media do not care one iota about the truth. This is a total ideological and political war.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    Political operatives are really good at digging up dirt. (Think House of Cards.) They likely gathered up everything on her before she ran for political office. Immigration fraud isn’t going to piss off Democrats, it’ll likely be an asset. Even a Marxist (though genocidal) dictatorship won’t hurt her too badly. Unless she starts a Islamic turf war against the LBGT community she’s safe. (Though how she survived bad mouthing Israel is beyond me.) Maybe the Democratic Party will be the first to brake the slave chains to Israel.
  78. IOW, thank you, Bush Family. The only good Bush is a burning bush.

  79. @Kronos
    Or French aristocrats fleeing the Revolution.

    What the hell?

  80. @AKAHorace
    Putative Grandfather ? Do you think that there is any doubt ?

    Putative Grandfather ? Do you think that there is any doubt ?

    YES! Omar is not her real family name. It is Elmi. Elmi same as the brother she married for immigration fraud. PLUS Ilhan scammed her way into America by claiming she was an Omar. A DNA test will show her immigration fraud on this stunt.

    The Omar family was living here (USA) when they got approval for Ilhan (Elmi) to immigrate here by claiming Ilhan was a biological daughter. All this was written last week in the Powerline Blog.

    • Replies: @Nodwink
    If you read it on a blog, then it must be true.
  81. @guest
    Imagine, being an immigrant, others noticing you're an immigrant, and feeling foreign things in a land foreign to you.

    It's almost like touching water and feeling out of nowhere a sense of wetness upon the very hand with which you touched the water. How odd!

    “Imagine, being an immigrant, others noticing you’re an immigrant, and feeling foreign things in a land foreign to you.”

    Yeah, I call it waking up every day. I really feel for her, what with working in an institution that is known for minting millionaires, and getting there primarily because she is different.

  82. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1154502673514684416

    I’ve now seen the video of the martyrdom of poor ASAP; it’s a bunch of negroes fighting outside a fast food place. Quite mild by World Star Hiphop standards actually, though regrettably against our laws.

    Let’s make a deal, Trump. We send you the one you want and you take another fifty of ours with him.

  83. @El Dato
    Public service announcement:

    We have a good meme image for top cuckery here.

    That guy looks more gay than cuckold.

  84. @t
    https://www.propublica.org/article/ole-miss-students-pose-with-guns-in-front-of-shot-up-emmett-till-memorial

    If it’s real, good, it should happen more often. If not, dare to dream.

    Tangentially, ‘pro publica’ makes me think of public-spirited old organizations founded and maintained by whites, not anti-civilizational jewish outfits. But that’s the modern world, I guess.

  85. @Whiskey
    It's pretty clear Pelosi s successor is Ilhan Omar. She is the clear choice of gays, urban professional White women, and non Whites.

    Sadly she has African levels of competence, the typical third world aristocrat contempt for ordinary Whites who unlike her actually work for a living.The

    Dems and the left. Doddering old folks like Mueller and this one who makes Hank Guam is ripping over Johnson look like a genius.

    You can’t be serious. Omar is barely an actual politician yet, and she has no constituency that isn’t the dregs of the earth. Except for the fact that someone’s paying for a great amount of publicity, no one would know her name. Except as “that Somali representative what’s-her-name.”

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    Isn't Omar's constituency in MN-5 something like 68% white?
  86. @Anonymous
    Who specifically signs the approval documents that grant the visas, asylum invitations, refugee approvals etc ?

    Is there some autonomous machine in the corner that just spits out these documents ? Perhaps a man in a short sleeve white shirt and clip on tie ferociously rubber stamping paperwork for 8 hours a day ?
    Do any of the involved staff at these agencies speak arabic, somali, have access to relevant documents, knowledge of east African cold war history. Is that the correct use of our nations resources to perform these formidable fictional tasks ?


    This is the deep state. Without knowing the specific series of events and the people who approve this it will never be stopped.

    Who approved the refugee grant ?

    The US likes to collect and stash away various losers of the political high-wire games for future uses, doesn’t it? I guess that Gulen guy must have been a disappointment when he failed against Erdogan.

  87. @Anonymous

    Successful members of the Siad Barre regime, such as Omar’s putative ancestors, did not promote democracy. Instead, the Somali government espoused a peculiar hybrid of Marxism-Leninism, Islam, and militaristic Somali nationalism.
     
    Depends what one means by "democracy". If it means something like a hybrid of neoliberalism and Cultural Marxism, like it does according to the mainstream Western definition nowadays, then it indeed was not a democracy.

    But you could make the case that the leftist nationalist, state socialist regimes like Barre's that were non-aligned or aligned with the USSR were actually more democratic than what gets officially approved as "democracy" by liberal elites these days.

    But you could make the case that the leftist nationalist, state socialist regimes like Barre’s that were non-aligned or aligned with the USSR were actually more democratic than what gets officially approved as “democracy” by liberal elites these days.

    In the sense that neither is democracy but the former are less confusing?

  88. @James N. Kennett
    Omar's grandpa served a Marxist-Leninist regime that launched a war of aggression against its neighbors, and committed genocide against a rival clan. Even if he had no blood on his hands, he should have been treated in the same way as a card-carrying member of the Nazi party and been denied US citizenship.

    The America we arrived in was different from the one my grandfather had hoped to find. The land of opportunity he imagined was in fact full of challenges. People identified me in ways that were foreign to me: immigrant, black. I learned that these identities carried stigmas, and I experienced prejudice as a visibly Muslim woman.
     
    Oh, the horror of meeting American deplorables! How challenging and unfamiliar is their prejudice compared to the warm, homely friendship of Somalis!

    Men with big guns demanded to be let in. The group tried to bust down the front door, but it was unbreakable. Omar and her family fell to the floor moments before the militiamen let go a staccato of gunfire. Once they were satisfied with the evening’s damage, the attackers left.
     
    If I were Omar, I would be so darned grateful to have found my way to a safe, prosperous, and free country, that I would be embarrassed even to mention its comparatively trifling political issues.

    Part of her problem may be that she believes the family stories that she was told when she was growing up. When, in the coming months, the media establish the real history of her family and its role in the Barre regime, Omar might be hearing these things for the first time.

    What they were upset about was their class status. It didn’t come with them. Like Alicia Machado.

    In America they were the help or the dregs.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    I don't think Alicia was especially high-born. She could have transferred her low-brow career to the US without any real change in status. Isn't that what happened anyway?
  89. @AnotherDad

    Having survived civil war in my home country as a child, I cherish these values. In Somalia’s capital, Mogadishu, I saw grade-school children as young as me holding assault rifles in the streets. ...
     
    Hmm ... maybe not the place where one would go to draw first class immigrants?

    The America we arrived in was different from the one my grandfather had hoped to find. The land of opportunity he imagined was in fact full of challenges. People identified me in ways that were foreign to me: immigrant, black. I learned that these identities carried stigmas, and I experienced prejudice as a visibly Muslim woman.
     
    So the nation my ancestors built has disappointed her ...

    We can fix that ...

    Send her back!

    “Those whites treated me like I belonged to another clan!”

  90. @Kronos
    The US political establishment is DESPERATE for moderate/high IQ African Americans. Ones (like Obama) with few or any ties with domestic black groups. Omar fits the bill, despite murky ties with a brutal dictatorship. White liberals are still afraid of another Mayor Barry coming in and destroying all the hard work of gentrification.

    There are some moderate to high IQ blacks where I work, but they tend to be Oreo-type center Leftists.

    One is such an enormous Oreo he has a picture of Opie hanging on the outside of his cube.

    • LOL: snorlax
    • Replies: @Kronos
    Who? You mean a picture of Oprah? Or Opus?

    But are they native (descendants of slaves) or foreign? (Descendants of slavers.)
  91. @Charon
    A couple generations ago, NYT copy editors were reasonably competent. But then so were most of society.

    Do you believe the New York Times will eventually die in the near future? (Maybe ten years?)

    If so, any bets on what will replace it?

  92. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    “Somalia is a country of three M’s: Marx, Mohammed and the Mad Mullah,” a Western diplomat said, using the British nickname for Sayid Mahammed Abdulla Hassan, the Somali nationalist leader of half a century ago. “I leave it to you to decide which ‘M’ is the most powerful.”
     
    Before they were completely taken over by globohomo ( almost literally. There are so many homosexuals) the Western diplomatic services rewarded this sort of accurate cynicism.

    It’s not surprising the diplomatic corps is packed with homos and spinsters. Even cushy assignments in Europe are at odds with normal American family life.

    • Replies: @Clyde

    It’s not surprising the diplomatic corps is packed with homos and spinsters. Even cushy assignments in Europe are at odds with normal American family life.
     
    The gays in the Dip Corps "adore" being posted to "fabulous" exotic locations where they can get it on with the local talent.
  93. @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    What makes you think the media will ever mention that real history?? It's not 1965 anymore. The media do not care one iota about the truth. This is a total ideological and political war.

    Political operatives are really good at digging up dirt. (Think House of Cards.) They likely gathered up everything on her before she ran for political office. Immigration fraud isn’t going to piss off Democrats, it’ll likely be an asset. Even a Marxist (though genocidal) dictatorship won’t hurt her too badly. Unless she starts a Islamic turf war against the LBGT community she’s safe. (Though how she survived bad mouthing Israel is beyond me.) Maybe the Democratic Party will be the first to brake the slave chains to Israel.

    • Replies: @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    The LGBT community have been useful for Democrats so far, but with the growing number of Latinos and the increased prominence of many Muslims like Ilhan I'm not sure if that will continue to be true. White gay men are already being considered problematic and privileged. I've seen several articles refer to Buttgieg as "part of the establishment" and "not an underdog". The message seems to be clear: white gay men, especially rich white gay men, are no longer considered part of the 'diverse oppressed'. Unfortunately most gays are sheep who will follow the latest CNN talking points and have no idea how to stand up for themselves in the face of Muslims (like the recent thing in the UK with parents protesting schools). God knows they'd have no idea how to react to the notion that Latinos are quite, um, un-gay friendly on average.

    I think what may happen is that the Democrats/media establishment/academia/Globohomo complex realize that gays are a very contentious topic among all their diverse factions, and will elect to throw them under the bus in order to keep everyone else together. After all, gays don't really sway elections, at least not anymore, they're not nearly as well-organized politically as they were in the late 70s. I wouldn't be surprised to start to see opinion columns and think pieces asking "did gay men help spread HIV among black women?", "are gays contributing to Islamophobia?", etc., trying to work it into the SJW frame but slowly edging them out and justifying the hostility of minorities towards gays. They will ignore lesbians as most cultures have throughout history.

  94. @t
    OT: the top trend on Twitter is Emmett Till, turns out some frat boys vandalized a sign about him

    He said the university will continue to build programs to engage students in “deliberate, honest and candid conversations while making clear that we unequivocally reject attitudes that do not respect the dignity of each individual in our community.”

    So the honest and candid part is just blowing smoke.

  95. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    “Somalia is a country of three M’s: Marx, Mohammed and the Mad Mullah,” a Western diplomat said, using the British nickname for Sayid Mahammed Abdulla Hassan, the Somali nationalist leader of half a century ago. “I leave it to you to decide which ‘M’ is the most powerful.”
     
    Before they were completely taken over by globohomo ( almost literally. There are so many homosexuals) the Western diplomatic services rewarded this sort of accurate cynicism.

    It stands to reason there’s a lot of homosexuals. Diplomats and their staff spend their careers far away from home. I’m assuming they spend more time abroad than even the most frequently-deployed military personnel. Who would want to put children through that?

    • Replies: @BB753
    Diplomacy should be a thing of the past: with Skype, emails, phones, fast air travel, who needs a representative in a far-flung country? Though I can see how you may still need consulates staffed with paper-pushers to do administrative stuff "in loco".
    , @Chris Renner
    I've known a few US Foreign Service Officers with kids. Generally, they appreciate the opportunity to show their kids the world at a young age and on Uncle's dime.
  96. Not entirely OT:

    Some guy from Ghana at Harvard tells us Why now is the moment to atone for 400 years of racism.

  97. @guest
    You can't be serious. Omar is barely an actual politician yet, and she has no constituency that isn't the dregs of the earth. Except for the fact that someone's paying for a great amount of publicity, no one would know her name. Except as "that Somali representative what's-her-name."

    Isn’t Omar’s constituency in MN-5 something like 68% white?

    • Replies: @guest
    Ya got me, I'm racist against Norsks.
    , @Alden
    Yes it is 68% White and has the largest number of Jews in Minnesota.
  98. @The Wild Geese Howard
    There are some moderate to high IQ blacks where I work, but they tend to be Oreo-type center Leftists.

    One is such an enormous Oreo he has a picture of Opie hanging on the outside of his cube.

    Who? You mean a picture of Oprah? Or Opus?

    But are they native (descendants of slaves) or foreign? (Descendants of slavers.)

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    I meant this Oreo has a picture of Ron Howard in the role of Opie Taylor on the Andy Griffith Show hanging on his exterior cube wall.
    , @snorlax
    Ron Howard's character in The Andy Griffith Show.

    https://metvcdn.metv.com/b9QJu-1483728396-1319-blog-andy_opie_color_1200.png

    I'm a Millennial (who once embarrassed myself here by thinking Lindsey Buckingham was a woman) and I knew that. Albeit only because of Arrested Development.
  99. OT:

    New Governor of Puerto Rico hit with ethics investigation:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-26/puerto-ricos-new-governor-hit-ethics-probe-one-day-after-rossellos-resignation

    How soon can we give Welfare Island back to Spain as part of the reparations package?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    How do you reckon Spain now gets reparations? It's full of racially European people, so surely it should be firebombed into a field of glass, no?

    Any reparations would be done by returning the island to any descendants of its cannibalistic natives, if we can track any down, no?

    Once more, for those in the cheap seats, Spaniards look like this:

    http://www.kudosvillas.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Spanish-Football-Fans.jpg

    Perhaps the confusion is all the mestizos in America who like to call themselves "Spanish" – they are trans-Spaniards out to crush the evil cis-Spaniards.
    , @Corn
    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez would make a great President.








    Of an independent Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico Libre!
  100. That’s correct about the district’s demographics. The news (and this blog) would certainly be more boring had Rep. Omar not won the relevant Democratic primary against former state house leader Margaret Anderson Kelliher who has a legislative biography citing her youthful roles as president of the state 4-H organisation and as a Dairy Princess in the Midwest Dairy Association Minnesota Dairy Princess Program.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    That’s correct about the district’s demographics.
     
    Actually, after some thought, I believe I should have written that MN-5 was 68% Eloi.
  101. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Pelosi's successor is going to the whomever in Congress raises the most money for the Democrats from the donors, and who's the best at one-on-one politics. That's not Omar. The big Democratic donors are Jewish. Even they are not going to give money to a screeching anti-Semitic Muslim who wants to see them all dead. They're kicking up a fuss about Omar right now.

    As for the speakership, I doubt Omar's Democratic colleagues trust her farther than they can throw her. Anyone with enough basic self-confidence and political savvy to make it into congress doesn't just go around blindly handing power to people like Omar. You don't make Iago your boss, if you have half a brain. Omar breaks the law without batting an eye, and she stirs up trouble to amuse herself. She's a scheming sociopath, plain and simple. The other Democrats are not going to trust Omar with their careers. They don't want her radicalism messing up their own reelections.

    “screeching … who wants to see them all dead.”

    What evidence is there for these particular assertions?

    I suspect much of the bashing around here is all about the Benjamins, baby.

  102. @The Wild Geese Howard
    Isn't Omar's constituency in MN-5 something like 68% white?

    Ya got me, I’m racist against Norsks.

  103. @Kronos
    Who? You mean a picture of Oprah? Or Opus?

    But are they native (descendants of slaves) or foreign? (Descendants of slavers.)

    I meant this Oreo has a picture of Ron Howard in the role of Opie Taylor on the Andy Griffith Show hanging on his exterior cube wall.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    That IS pretty white.

    Now I have that whistle theme song stuck in my head.

    But here’s a question, have you ever heard them talk anything publicly/privately about Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson?

  104. @AndrewR
    It stands to reason there's a lot of homosexuals. Diplomats and their staff spend their careers far away from home. I'm assuming they spend more time abroad than even the most frequently-deployed military personnel. Who would want to put children through that?

    Diplomacy should be a thing of the past: with Skype, emails, phones, fast air travel, who needs a representative in a far-flung country? Though I can see how you may still need consulates staffed with paper-pushers to do administrative stuff “in loco”.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Diplomats were originally a kind of hostage. Security for alliances or truces and whatnot.
  105. @anonymous55uu
    That’s correct about the district’s demographics. The news (and this blog) would certainly be more boring had Rep. Omar not won the relevant Democratic primary against former state house leader Margaret Anderson Kelliher who has a legislative biography citing her youthful roles as president of the state 4-H organisation and as a Dairy Princess in the Midwest Dairy Association Minnesota Dairy Princess Program.

    That’s correct about the district’s demographics.

    Actually, after some thought, I believe I should have written that MN-5 was 68% Eloi.

  106. @Ozymandias
    A fine pedigree.

    OT?

    The Trumpster was born in 1946. Boris Johnson was born in New York in 1964. Orange hair. I'm not saying, I'm just sayin'.

    The Trumpster was born in 1946. Boris Johnson was born in New York in 1964. Orange hair. I’m not saying, I’m just sayin’.

    Boris Johnson may be the love child of Donald Trump? Now there’s a season finale plot twist both Trump and BoJo could use in an election year.

  107. “It was in the diverse community of Minneapolis”

    I think she wanted the adjective “gullible” in there, not “diverse”. Pre-Somali invasion, at least, “diverse” is not on the list of adjectives I would have applied to Minneapolis.

  108. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/1154491939305037825

    The Reason article is a lie. Though I have to give them credit for posting the full transcript of what Omar said, which is every bit as bad as the “fake news” has it.

  109. @Clyde

    Putative Grandfather ? Do you think that there is any doubt ?
     
    YES! Omar is not her real family name. It is Elmi. Elmi same as the brother she married for immigration fraud. PLUS Ilhan scammed her way into America by claiming she was an Omar. A DNA test will show her immigration fraud on this stunt.

    The Omar family was living here (USA) when they got approval for Ilhan (Elmi) to immigrate here by claiming Ilhan was a biological daughter. All this was written last week in the Powerline Blog.

    If you read it on a blog, then it must be true.

  110. @Tiny Duck
    I hope those jerks get what's coming to then

    Why don’t you make up a fake award to go with your ever-changing background and fake history? Maybe a Smollet award for best hoax story? You could bestow it upon these fine folks for something they didn’t do.

  111. @Kronos
    Who? You mean a picture of Oprah? Or Opus?

    But are they native (descendants of slaves) or foreign? (Descendants of slavers.)

    Ron Howard’s character in The Andy Griffith Show.

    I’m a Millennial (who once embarrassed myself here by thinking Lindsey Buckingham was a woman) and I knew that. Albeit only because of Arrested Development.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    Dang, I was totally off base on that one. To one Millennial to another, thanks for the enlightenment. I looked it up later and believed it a reference to a “Sons of Anarchy” character. I’m unfamiliar with both shows.

    But hey, I still find it amazing that a man (Lindsey Graham) with a women’s name can make it into political office.
    , @MEH 0910
    Lindsey Buckingham - Holiday Road (Official Music Video)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsYqIJqlPNc
  112. @Anonymous
    Who specifically signs the approval documents that grant the visas, asylum invitations, refugee approvals etc ?

    Is there some autonomous machine in the corner that just spits out these documents ? Perhaps a man in a short sleeve white shirt and clip on tie ferociously rubber stamping paperwork for 8 hours a day ?
    Do any of the involved staff at these agencies speak arabic, somali, have access to relevant documents, knowledge of east African cold war history. Is that the correct use of our nations resources to perform these formidable fictional tasks ?


    This is the deep state. Without knowing the specific series of events and the people who approve this it will never be stopped.

    Who approved the refugee grant ?

    Is there some autonomous machine in the corner that just spits out these documents ?

    I’ve seen some pretty criminally minded people come through the legal immigration system.

    Largest problem is the legions of “immigration lawyers” who see their job as the equivalent of a defense attorney trying to free a client. They spin and massage the documents to the max for low level people with no money; I imagine someone at a higher level like Ilhan had a team of such.

    And the sending countries do what they can to shed themselves of these awesomely vibrant and diverse.

  113. @The Wild Geese Howard
    OT:

    New Governor of Puerto Rico hit with ethics investigation:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-26/puerto-ricos-new-governor-hit-ethics-probe-one-day-after-rossellos-resignation

    How soon can we give Welfare Island back to Spain as part of the reparations package?

    How do you reckon Spain now gets reparations? It’s full of racially European people, so surely it should be firebombed into a field of glass, no?

    Any reparations would be done by returning the island to any descendants of its cannibalistic natives, if we can track any down, no?

    Once more, for those in the cheap seats, Spaniards look like this:

    Perhaps the confusion is all the mestizos in America who like to call themselves “Spanish” – they are trans-Spaniards out to crush the evil cis-Spaniards.

  114. @trelane
    The op-ed was not written by a first generation native Somali speaker. It's composition is almost perfect, as though written by a white or Jewish English major at Brown.

    Ilhan Omar is using DNC ghost writers to promote herself.

    She lived in Kenya from age 2-12. English is an official language and Kenyan schools are English language She was English schooled in the refugee center she lived in.

    Then middle, high school and college in the US. I understand all her jobs before Congress were NGO activist jobs. Those jobs involve lots of speaking and writing.

    Someone with an English schooling background such as her’s could have written the article. Or someone else could have written it as you suspect.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    There is nothing about Rep. Omar's spoken English that suggests that she can write English that well. "Some people did something."
  115. @The Wild Geese Howard
    Isn't Omar's constituency in MN-5 something like 68% white?

    Yes it is 68% White and has the largest number of Jews in Minnesota.

  116. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    I’m not exactly going to bat for Ms. Omar.
     
    Of course you are.

    ‘Of course you are.’

    So name another Congressman who is standing up to the Israel lobby.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    That's your pet issue. Her 'hate America' shtick and anti-white racism is much more important to most Americans.
  117. @PiltdownMan
    It may or may not be relevant, but Boris Johnson's ex wife, with whom he has four children, is half-Sikh.

    https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/sunday-special/columns/british-pm-hopeful-s-sikh-connection/798289.html

    Boris Johnson's great-grandfather was the Turkish journalist and politician, Ali Kemal, who was lynched in Istanbul during the turmoil that preceded the ascendancy of Kemal Ataturk and the first Turkish Republic. It is entirely possible that Boris Johnson has a soft spot for non-white immigrants, especially from the elites of other countries.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Kemal

    It is entirely possible that Boris Johnson has a soft spot for non-white immigrants, especially from the elites of other countries.

    Then he probably shouldn’t be prime minister.

  118. @bgates
    1977: Somalia, a nation of almost four million people

    2019: About 12 million people occupy this land

    Do you want a vision of the future? Imagine the population of Somalia tripling every 42 years.

  119. @The Wild Geese Howard
    OT:

    New Governor of Puerto Rico hit with ethics investigation:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-26/puerto-ricos-new-governor-hit-ethics-probe-one-day-after-rossellos-resignation

    How soon can we give Welfare Island back to Spain as part of the reparations package?

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez would make a great President.

    Of an independent Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico Libre!

  120. @eah
    https://twitter.com/mollyfprince/status/1154039284950716419

    This illustrates why we really can’t talk to the Ilhan Omars of the world. They just announce that their people are ten times better than yours and that you have to go extinct in service to the greater good.

    Meanwhile, under their care, the crime rate goes up; the water system fails; plumbing in general fails; the electric grid goes down; food distribution fails; and it’s all YT’s fault.

    • Agree: eah
  121. @George
    "street‐cleaning brigades"

    Maybe California should hire people to clean up the litter. Oh yeah, all the money is going to retired mostly white people.

    When those retired whites are gone, who will you blame then?

    And of course its mostly not the white retirees doing the littering.

  122. @George
    "street‐cleaning brigades"

    Maybe California should hire people to clean up the litter. Oh yeah, all the money is going to retired mostly white people.

    Occasionally groups of volunteers go out and clean up trash around my area. Mostly retired white people and their grandkids.

    If Mexicans do voluntary cleanups, good for them, but I’ve never seen it.

  123. @User1234
    What they were upset about was their class status. It didn't come with them. Like Alicia Machado.

    In America they were the help or the dregs.

    I don’t think Alicia was especially high-born. She could have transferred her low-brow career to the US without any real change in status. Isn’t that what happened anyway?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Right. She is basically mestiza Snooki.
  124. @Lurker
    I don't think Alicia was especially high-born. She could have transferred her low-brow career to the US without any real change in status. Isn't that what happened anyway?

    Right. She is basically mestiza Snooki.

  125. @snorlax
    Ron Howard's character in The Andy Griffith Show.

    https://metvcdn.metv.com/b9QJu-1483728396-1319-blog-andy_opie_color_1200.png

    I'm a Millennial (who once embarrassed myself here by thinking Lindsey Buckingham was a woman) and I knew that. Albeit only because of Arrested Development.

    Dang, I was totally off base on that one. To one Millennial to another, thanks for the enlightenment. I looked it up later and believed it a reference to a “Sons of Anarchy” character. I’m unfamiliar with both shows.

    But hey, I still find it amazing that a man (Lindsey Graham) with a women’s name can make it into political office.

  126. @George
    "street‐cleaning brigades"

    Maybe California should hire people to clean up the litter. Oh yeah, all the money is going to retired mostly white people.

    …all the money is going to retired mostly white people.

    So this needs to become yet another activity funded by retired white people.

  127. @AndrewR
    It stands to reason there's a lot of homosexuals. Diplomats and their staff spend their careers far away from home. I'm assuming they spend more time abroad than even the most frequently-deployed military personnel. Who would want to put children through that?

    I’ve known a few US Foreign Service Officers with kids. Generally, they appreciate the opportunity to show their kids the world at a young age and on Uncle’s dime.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan

    I’ve known a few US Foreign Service Officers with kids. Generally, they appreciate the opportunity to show their kids the world at a young age and on Uncle’s dime.
     
    It doesn't always work out that way. A relative has two daughters and is in the Foreign Service. It was all fun and an adventure when they were kids, but being yanked out of school every three years, especially during high-school, has been unpleasant for them as teens.

    And not all foreign locations have decent English language schools. It's only places like Tokyo or Singapore that have large American schools that are comparable to quality public high schools in the United States. If you get sent to Mauritania or Togo when your kids are young teens, they're out of luck. Sure, the State Department shows some consideration when assigning Foreign Service personnel with families, but it is not always possible. And, of course, unless your spouse is Foreign Service, too, and can pull synchronized assignments, one spouse basically gives up all prospects of a proper career.

  128. @snorlax
    Ron Howard's character in The Andy Griffith Show.

    https://metvcdn.metv.com/b9QJu-1483728396-1319-blog-andy_opie_color_1200.png

    I'm a Millennial (who once embarrassed myself here by thinking Lindsey Buckingham was a woman) and I knew that. Albeit only because of Arrested Development.

    Lindsey Buckingham – Holiday Road (Official Music Video)

  129. @George
    "street‐cleaning brigades"

    Maybe California should hire people to clean up the litter. Oh yeah, all the money is going to retired mostly white people.

    As it should

  130. @The Wild Geese Howard
    I meant this Oreo has a picture of Ron Howard in the role of Opie Taylor on the Andy Griffith Show hanging on his exterior cube wall.

    That IS pretty white.

    Now I have that whistle theme song stuck in my head.

    But here’s a question, have you ever heard them talk anything publicly/privately about Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson?

  131. @Lot
    :(

    I already miss May.

    Once Brexit is over with, migration policy can be the new focus of English nationalism.

    Though the UK wasn’t actually meeting its numerical limit policy on migration, at least it was a goal.

    I already miss May.

    May was pathetic–un-“missable”.

    But it’s ridiculous–nuts, insane–that the British *Conservative* party can’t come up with man for their leader who actually wants to conserve Britain.

    This is a nation that repeatedly fought wars not just to keep their independence, but instigated wars to keep any continental power from being able to rise to the point of being able to threaten Britian’s absolute freedom of action.

    Now it can’t find a leader willing to stop foreign invasion?

    • Replies: @byrresheim

    ... but instigated wars to keep any continental power from being able to rise to the point of being able to threaten Britian’s absolute freedom of action
     
    .

    Karma is a bitch.
  132. @Anonymous
    No, modern jihadist ideology was devised by Brzezinski and other Deep State officials in concert with US allies like the Saudis to be used to undermine more secular oriented Islamic states like the Barre regime that were independent, non-aligned, or Soviet aligned. The Barre regime was more like the Gaddafi and Assad regimes, or Saddam's Baathist Iraq.

    No, modern jihadist ideology was devised by Brzezinski and other Deep State officials in concert with US allies like the Saudis to be used to undermine more secular oriented Islamic states like the Barre regime that were independent, non-aligned, or Soviet aligned.

    No, it was not devised by the US. Used, yes. Devised no.

    These fundamentalist counter-reactions to rapid modernization/secularization of traditional societies are pretty much “per spec”. People are discombobulated by the changes–families, employment, marriage, etc.–and latch on to traditional structures which promise some sort of stability and identity. Religion is the most powerful. Sociology 101.

    Sayyid Qutb was cooking up his Sunni version of this in one of Nasser’s jails after being put off by the sexuality of post-War America and scandalized by a church dance in Greeley Colorado … in 1949. (What would he think today!) The Saudis made a deal with their Wahhabi loons, and have effectively financed fundy Sunni Islam all over the world with their oil money.

    But the Shiites in Iran had their very similar fundy counter-reaction and it worked to toss out the US friendly Shah.

    This sort of reaction just is. And the disruption in the muslim world by having Western modernity so utterly dominate them–embarrass them for their incompetence and impotence (against Israel)–is worse than most. How these reactions run, what use they are put to are political/historical questions, but the reaction itself isn’t something the US or anyone else creates.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    As a geopolitical strategy during the Cold War to target certain states, it was devised by the US and certain allies like the Saudis.

    Without US sponsorship, it likely would have been stamped out by the state socialist regimes. The Saudi regime wouldn't even exist without US support. The Arabian Peninsula would likely have been taken over by Baathists like Saddam, or some Soviet affiliated socialist regime.
  133. @The Wild Geese Howard
    It's not surprising the diplomatic corps is packed with homos and spinsters. Even cushy assignments in Europe are at odds with normal American family life.

    It’s not surprising the diplomatic corps is packed with homos and spinsters. Even cushy assignments in Europe are at odds with normal American family life.

    The gays in the Dip Corps “adore” being posted to “fabulous” exotic locations where they can get it on with the local talent.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    The gays in the Dip Corps “adore” being posted to “fabulous” exotic locations where they can get it on with the local talent.
     
    For some, it seems all the world's a bathhouse....
  134. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/1154491939305037825

    Libertarian terrified of being called “wayciss”, news at 11.

  135. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    No, modern jihadist ideology was devised by Brzezinski and other Deep State officials in concert with US allies like the Saudis to be used to undermine more secular oriented Islamic states like the Barre regime that were independent, non-aligned, or Soviet aligned.
     
    No, it was not devised by the US. Used, yes. Devised no.

    These fundamentalist counter-reactions to rapid modernization/secularization of traditional societies are pretty much "per spec". People are discombobulated by the changes--families, employment, marriage, etc.--and latch on to traditional structures which promise some sort of stability and identity. Religion is the most powerful. Sociology 101.

    Sayyid Qutb was cooking up his Sunni version of this in one of Nasser's jails after being put off by the sexuality of post-War America and scandalized by a church dance in Greeley Colorado ... in 1949. (What would he think today!) The Saudis made a deal with their Wahhabi loons, and have effectively financed fundy Sunni Islam all over the world with their oil money.

    But the Shiites in Iran had their very similar fundy counter-reaction and it worked to toss out the US friendly Shah.

    This sort of reaction just is. And the disruption in the muslim world by having Western modernity so utterly dominate them--embarrass them for their incompetence and impotence (against Israel)--is worse than most. How these reactions run, what use they are put to are political/historical questions, but the reaction itself isn't something the US or anyone else creates.

    As a geopolitical strategy during the Cold War to target certain states, it was devised by the US and certain allies like the Saudis.

    Without US sponsorship, it likely would have been stamped out by the state socialist regimes. The Saudi regime wouldn’t even exist without US support. The Arabian Peninsula would likely have been taken over by Baathists like Saddam, or some Soviet affiliated socialist regime.

  136. @TwentyCents
    "Somalia’s National Marine Transport director"

    The Omar's-husband-was-her-brother theory depends on the family actually being surnamed Elmi and the America bound members adopting the name Omar for some fraudulent reason. If her grandfather was a gov't official you'd think this could be checked somehow. Here's the list of men who served as Somalia's Marine Transport Minister after the office was created. No Abukar or Omar or Elmi. Of course he is described as the "director", not the minister so perhaps he did not run the full ministry.

    MINISTER OF FISHERY AND MARINE TRANSPORT
    Osman Jama Ali 1973–1976

    MINISTERS OF PORTS AND MARINE TRANSPORT
    Abdalla Mohamed Fadil 1977–1978
    Mohmoud Gelle Yusuf 1978–1982
    Abdisalam Sheikh Hussein 1982–1984
    Mohmoud Gelle Yusuf 1984–1987
    Mohmoud Gelle Yusuf 1989–1990

    Hey, can you work your search magic on her mother? Wikipedia says that her mother’s name was Fadhuma Abukar Haji Hussein. Of course, who knows if that is correct. “Ilhan Omar’s Road to Washington” by Michelle Bruch states that “Her mother’s first job was assistant to the minister of petroleum, Omar said, and she later became a department director.” It would be interesting to see whether that job could be confirmed, or even if any female could be found listed for these jobs. If so, perhaps her real name could be inferred that way.

    I’ve also seen her mother variously described as part-Arab, part-Yemeni, or Benadiri (a member of a group of wealthy Somali merchants of mixed Arab/Persian/South Asian background). I even recently saw a tweet saying that her Mom was a Houthi, which implied that this tied into the geopolitics of the current Saudi Arabia – Israel – -U.A.E.- USA vs. Iran – Yemen – Qatar axes ( see Foreign Policy: “Saudi Arabia Declares War on America’s Muslim Congresswomen” and Al-Arabiya: “Details of calls to attack Trump by US ‘Muslim Sisters’ allied to Brotherhood” for more on that.)

    I’m curious to see what you can find.

  137. @Alden
    She lived in Kenya from age 2-12. English is an official language and Kenyan schools are English language She was English schooled in the refugee center she lived in.

    Then middle, high school and college in the US. I understand all her jobs before Congress were NGO activist jobs. Those jobs involve lots of speaking and writing.

    Someone with an English schooling background such as her’s could have written the article. Or someone else could have written it as you suspect.

    There is nothing about Rep. Omar’s spoken English that suggests that she can write English that well. “Some people did something.”

  138. @Chris Renner
    I've known a few US Foreign Service Officers with kids. Generally, they appreciate the opportunity to show their kids the world at a young age and on Uncle's dime.

    I’ve known a few US Foreign Service Officers with kids. Generally, they appreciate the opportunity to show their kids the world at a young age and on Uncle’s dime.

    It doesn’t always work out that way. A relative has two daughters and is in the Foreign Service. It was all fun and an adventure when they were kids, but being yanked out of school every three years, especially during high-school, has been unpleasant for them as teens.

    And not all foreign locations have decent English language schools. It’s only places like Tokyo or Singapore that have large American schools that are comparable to quality public high schools in the United States. If you get sent to Mauritania or Togo when your kids are young teens, they’re out of luck. Sure, the State Department shows some consideration when assigning Foreign Service personnel with families, but it is not always possible. And, of course, unless your spouse is Foreign Service, too, and can pull synchronized assignments, one spouse basically gives up all prospects of a proper career.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    The challenge if you're climbing the ladder in serious federal service is getting in your moves to the Imperial Capital and to the hard service posts in BFE before your kids hit high school. That seems to be the common theme with senior leaders: the rush to get your SES or GS15 ahead of your kids acting out cause they have to move every few years.
    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    My dad was a diplomat, and even though moving was sometimes tough, the experience was defamiliarizing and very instructive about how different societies behave. A lesson in HBD if you will.

    Many of the American or international schools abroad are very good. Teachers are paid pretty well and the kids are the offspring of parents who would send their kids to good public or private schools stateside. Good students make good schools and all.

    Also, there's boarding school, which is where you send your kids if posted to Upper Volta or wherever.
  139. Just like Geert Wilders and Thierry Baudet in the Netherlands (supposedly far-right white supremacist racists). Wilders is part Indonesian (Indonesia being a former Dutch colony). Baudet has an Iranian gitlfriend.

  140. Pretty and smart and apparently no pics worthy for blackmailing at the ADL.

    Somalia, USA will trade 6 million Shumers for another Ilhan.

    Already fewer wars, deaths, misery.

    One Trump, two Ilhans will make America viable again.

    The air smells sweet and fresh.

  141. @PiltdownMan

    I’ve known a few US Foreign Service Officers with kids. Generally, they appreciate the opportunity to show their kids the world at a young age and on Uncle’s dime.
     
    It doesn't always work out that way. A relative has two daughters and is in the Foreign Service. It was all fun and an adventure when they were kids, but being yanked out of school every three years, especially during high-school, has been unpleasant for them as teens.

    And not all foreign locations have decent English language schools. It's only places like Tokyo or Singapore that have large American schools that are comparable to quality public high schools in the United States. If you get sent to Mauritania or Togo when your kids are young teens, they're out of luck. Sure, the State Department shows some consideration when assigning Foreign Service personnel with families, but it is not always possible. And, of course, unless your spouse is Foreign Service, too, and can pull synchronized assignments, one spouse basically gives up all prospects of a proper career.

    The challenge if you’re climbing the ladder in serious federal service is getting in your moves to the Imperial Capital and to the hard service posts in BFE before your kids hit high school. That seems to be the common theme with senior leaders: the rush to get your SES or GS15 ahead of your kids acting out cause they have to move every few years.

  142. @Colin Wright
    'Of course you are.'

    So name another Congressman who is standing up to the Israel lobby.

    That’s your pet issue. Her ‘hate America’ shtick and anti-white racism is much more important to most Americans.

    • Replies: @bjondo
    Her ‘hate America’ shtick and anti-white racism is much more important to most Americans.

    Could be the real target is the shape-shifting parasite.

    5ds

  143. @Clyde

    It’s not surprising the diplomatic corps is packed with homos and spinsters. Even cushy assignments in Europe are at odds with normal American family life.
     
    The gays in the Dip Corps "adore" being posted to "fabulous" exotic locations where they can get it on with the local talent.

    The gays in the Dip Corps “adore” being posted to “fabulous” exotic locations where they can get it on with the local talent.

    For some, it seems all the world’s a bathhouse….

  144. @AnotherDad

    I already miss May.
     
    May was pathetic--un-"missable".

    But it's ridiculous--nuts, insane--that the British *Conservative* party can't come up with man for their leader who actually wants to conserve Britain.

    This is a nation that repeatedly fought wars not just to keep their independence, but instigated wars to keep any continental power from being able to rise to the point of being able to threaten Britian's absolute freedom of action.

    Now it can't find a leader willing to stop foreign invasion?

    … but instigated wars to keep any continental power from being able to rise to the point of being able to threaten Britian’s absolute freedom of action

    .

    Karma is a bitch.

  145. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    That's your pet issue. Her 'hate America' shtick and anti-white racism is much more important to most Americans.

    Her ‘hate America’ shtick and anti-white racism is much more important to most Americans.

    Could be the real target is the shape-shifting parasite.

    5ds

  146. @BB753
    Diplomacy should be a thing of the past: with Skype, emails, phones, fast air travel, who needs a representative in a far-flung country? Though I can see how you may still need consulates staffed with paper-pushers to do administrative stuff "in loco".

    Diplomats were originally a kind of hostage. Security for alliances or truces and whatnot.

  147. @PiltdownMan

    I’ve known a few US Foreign Service Officers with kids. Generally, they appreciate the opportunity to show their kids the world at a young age and on Uncle’s dime.
     
    It doesn't always work out that way. A relative has two daughters and is in the Foreign Service. It was all fun and an adventure when they were kids, but being yanked out of school every three years, especially during high-school, has been unpleasant for them as teens.

    And not all foreign locations have decent English language schools. It's only places like Tokyo or Singapore that have large American schools that are comparable to quality public high schools in the United States. If you get sent to Mauritania or Togo when your kids are young teens, they're out of luck. Sure, the State Department shows some consideration when assigning Foreign Service personnel with families, but it is not always possible. And, of course, unless your spouse is Foreign Service, too, and can pull synchronized assignments, one spouse basically gives up all prospects of a proper career.

    My dad was a diplomat, and even though moving was sometimes tough, the experience was defamiliarizing and very instructive about how different societies behave. A lesson in HBD if you will.

    Many of the American or international schools abroad are very good. Teachers are paid pretty well and the kids are the offspring of parents who would send their kids to good public or private schools stateside. Good students make good schools and all.

    Also, there’s boarding school, which is where you send your kids if posted to Upper Volta or wherever.

  148. @Kronos
    Political operatives are really good at digging up dirt. (Think House of Cards.) They likely gathered up everything on her before she ran for political office. Immigration fraud isn’t going to piss off Democrats, it’ll likely be an asset. Even a Marxist (though genocidal) dictatorship won’t hurt her too badly. Unless she starts a Islamic turf war against the LBGT community she’s safe. (Though how she survived bad mouthing Israel is beyond me.) Maybe the Democratic Party will be the first to brake the slave chains to Israel.

    The LGBT community have been useful for Democrats so far, but with the growing number of Latinos and the increased prominence of many Muslims like Ilhan I’m not sure if that will continue to be true. White gay men are already being considered problematic and privileged. I’ve seen several articles refer to Buttgieg as “part of the establishment” and “not an underdog”. The message seems to be clear: white gay men, especially rich white gay men, are no longer considered part of the ‘diverse oppressed’. Unfortunately most gays are sheep who will follow the latest CNN talking points and have no idea how to stand up for themselves in the face of Muslims (like the recent thing in the UK with parents protesting schools). God knows they’d have no idea how to react to the notion that Latinos are quite, um, un-gay friendly on average.

    I think what may happen is that the Democrats/media establishment/academia/Globohomo complex realize that gays are a very contentious topic among all their diverse factions, and will elect to throw them under the bus in order to keep everyone else together. After all, gays don’t really sway elections, at least not anymore, they’re not nearly as well-organized politically as they were in the late 70s. I wouldn’t be surprised to start to see opinion columns and think pieces asking “did gay men help spread HIV among black women?”, “are gays contributing to Islamophobia?”, etc., trying to work it into the SJW frame but slowly edging them out and justifying the hostility of minorities towards gays. They will ignore lesbians as most cultures have throughout history.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    “After all, gays don’t really sway elections, at least not anymore, they’re not nearly as well-organized politically as they were in the late 70s.”

    Really? I would’ve thought they’re FAR more organized now more than ever. Do you make a distinction between gay organizing and LGBT organizing?

    Sailer predicts a eventual civil war between lesbians and trans-women. That they’ll fight for leadership supremacy in female oriented organizations. You see any major beef between the gays and trannys in the future?
  149. LGBT
    LGBTQP
    LGBTQPRSTUVW

    Why not simply “queers”?

  150. @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    The LGBT community have been useful for Democrats so far, but with the growing number of Latinos and the increased prominence of many Muslims like Ilhan I'm not sure if that will continue to be true. White gay men are already being considered problematic and privileged. I've seen several articles refer to Buttgieg as "part of the establishment" and "not an underdog". The message seems to be clear: white gay men, especially rich white gay men, are no longer considered part of the 'diverse oppressed'. Unfortunately most gays are sheep who will follow the latest CNN talking points and have no idea how to stand up for themselves in the face of Muslims (like the recent thing in the UK with parents protesting schools). God knows they'd have no idea how to react to the notion that Latinos are quite, um, un-gay friendly on average.

    I think what may happen is that the Democrats/media establishment/academia/Globohomo complex realize that gays are a very contentious topic among all their diverse factions, and will elect to throw them under the bus in order to keep everyone else together. After all, gays don't really sway elections, at least not anymore, they're not nearly as well-organized politically as they were in the late 70s. I wouldn't be surprised to start to see opinion columns and think pieces asking "did gay men help spread HIV among black women?", "are gays contributing to Islamophobia?", etc., trying to work it into the SJW frame but slowly edging them out and justifying the hostility of minorities towards gays. They will ignore lesbians as most cultures have throughout history.

    “After all, gays don’t really sway elections, at least not anymore, they’re not nearly as well-organized politically as they were in the late 70s.”

    Really? I would’ve thought they’re FAR more organized now more than ever. Do you make a distinction between gay organizing and LGBT organizing?

    Sailer predicts a eventual civil war between lesbians and trans-women. That they’ll fight for leadership supremacy in female oriented organizations. You see any major beef between the gays and trannys in the future?

    • Replies: @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    "Do you make a distinction between gay organizing and LGBT organizing?"

    Massively so. In my experience most gay organizations, which used to be created and lead by gay men, have been taken over by radical lesbians and MTF trans, and the few gay men that remain are weak and utterly compliant with SJWs, hence pride marches banning police and different groups for ridiculous reasons in the past couple of years. Gay men seem to be at a loss to combat this, I suspect it's gay sex/dating apps making them complacent, it's like a drug.

  151. @Kronos
    “After all, gays don’t really sway elections, at least not anymore, they’re not nearly as well-organized politically as they were in the late 70s.”

    Really? I would’ve thought they’re FAR more organized now more than ever. Do you make a distinction between gay organizing and LGBT organizing?

    Sailer predicts a eventual civil war between lesbians and trans-women. That they’ll fight for leadership supremacy in female oriented organizations. You see any major beef between the gays and trannys in the future?

    “Do you make a distinction between gay organizing and LGBT organizing?”

    Massively so. In my experience most gay organizations, which used to be created and lead by gay men, have been taken over by radical lesbians and MTF trans, and the few gay men that remain are weak and utterly compliant with SJWs, hence pride marches banning police and different groups for ridiculous reasons in the past couple of years. Gay men seem to be at a loss to combat this, I suspect it’s gay sex/dating apps making them complacent, it’s like a drug.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    Where do the bisexuals fall into this? They seem to be most politically passive of all the “Four Families.”
  152. @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    "Do you make a distinction between gay organizing and LGBT organizing?"

    Massively so. In my experience most gay organizations, which used to be created and lead by gay men, have been taken over by radical lesbians and MTF trans, and the few gay men that remain are weak and utterly compliant with SJWs, hence pride marches banning police and different groups for ridiculous reasons in the past couple of years. Gay men seem to be at a loss to combat this, I suspect it's gay sex/dating apps making them complacent, it's like a drug.

    Where do the bisexuals fall into this? They seem to be most politically passive of all the “Four Families.”

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