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I never heard of any of these people before today, but Saikat Chakrabarti is AOC’s chief of staff, Sharice Davids (D-KS) is “the first openly LGBT Native American elected to the United States Congress” so she’s got a lot of Diversity Pokemon Points, and the House Democrats twitter handle is owned by the House Democratic Caucus under Rep. Hakeem Jeffries.

https://twitter.com/HouseDemocrats/status/1149856308801286148

I can’t even begin to make sense of this Coalition of the Fringes circular firing squad.

And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis? Is that some Black Woman of Color thing like snapping your fingers while making the shape of a Z was back during In Living Color era?

Our new country is going to be great!

 
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  1. Lesbian special-ed teacher who abused female student walks; promises she’ll keep doing it.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7242331/Teacher-affair-student-avoids-jail-judge-says-isnt-sexual-predator.html

    Another female teacher sentenced to 20 years for relations with male student.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7242265/Ex-Arizona-teacher-28-sex-13-year-old-boy-sentenced-20-years-prison.html

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    Uh, read the text messages in the story on the second case.

    Van Halen had a hit song called, "Hot for Teacher," for a reason.
    , @Bardon Kaldian
    The bigger question is: female accountability & a sense of morality. Sometimes, they're better than men; but in other instances....

    And 20 years (even if it was 2 years) is absolutely absurd. The only person I feel sorry in these cases is her husband.
    , @Tiny Duck
    Why are white girls so promiscuous?

    Why do they find Boys of Color so irresistible?
    , @AndrewR
    You're a strong competitor for the Most Dishonest Unz.com Commenter award, and that's really saying something
  2. Lot says:

    “And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis? Is that some Black Woman of Color thing like snapping your fingers while making the shape of a Z was back during In Living Color era?”

    Correct.

    Didn’t you ever see those campus SJW mobbing videos on you tube? When a SJW speaks, especially a WOC, they all snap their fingers repeatedly?

    The clapping thing evolved from that as not everyone has the dexterity to snap their fingers.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Actually...

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/clapback-meaning-origin
    , @El Dato
    Nah it's a "Waah I Can't Hear Youuuu" Conversation Desparker.
    , @Mr McKenna
    In the infamous Jerelyn Luther Banshee video, the righteous POCs were snapping their fingers whenever the White Man dared to speak, thereby making his words somewhat inaudible. I think it's how they show respect.
    , @Steve Sailer
    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?

    I'm lost.

    , @guest
    In my experience black girls are the epicenter of clapping while they talk. Mostly when they're in an argument. There must be a term for it, but I am at a loss.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3pRvzd1AaiY
    , @bored identity
    bored identity strongly believes that brown hands clapping has something to do with with celebrating white devil's propensity for indoor plumming accomodations.
    , @South Texas Guy

    And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis? Is that some Black Woman of Color thing like snapping your fingers while making the shape of a Z was back during In Living Color era?
     
    It's all a mystery to me. I'm still doing the 'cut, it, out' hand thing from Dave Coulier from "Full House."
  3. Lot says:

    AOC hates Hakeem Jeffries and is trying to get him primaryed.

    While he had a Black Power muslim name, and is the nephew of “Ice People/Sun People” Professor Leonard Jeffries, Hakeem is actually a corporate lawyer and about as conservative as a congressman as a minority majority Brooklyn district would ever elect.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    I think a lot of this is personal against AOC. It is safe to say a clear majority of Dem House members are ready for her time in Congress to end. The problem for them is, there is no clear way to bring that about. Even if New York loses more seats after 2020 redistricting, there is no obvious way to force her into a primary she would be likely to lose.
    , @S. Anonyia
    Don't know much about Jeffries- but speaking of black power Muslims......I've noticed a lot of black power Muslims and Hoteps (tons of the latter around here, they larp as both Ancient Egyptians AND Muslims) have completely bizarre beliefs but are actually relatively pleasant, conservative people who usually have intact middle/lower middle class families.
    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Hakeem is Chuck Schumer's boy. And guess what Chuckie? They're coming for you too, boychik.

    Maybe 13 or 14 years ago I had a crew of union guys in a sign war with Hakeem, who was running against Roger Green. AOC would have loved Roger Green. He was the first Mohammedan in the NY State Assemby as well as chair of the black/Puerto Rican Raucous, er, Caucus. He was big on Mama Africa stuff, which is no longer in fashion, to put it mildly.

    The union guys would pull down Hakeem's signs that ringed Grand Army Plaza, then Hakeem would come back half an hour later and pull down Roger's signs and replace his own. Not Hakeem's campaign workers; Hakeem himself. I wish I had a smart phone back then. This went on all night (primary eve). Fun times.

    Unfortunately(or fortunately), like so many Hood Heelers, Roger got busted for a pitiful three grand worth of bogus travel reimbursements and pled guilty to extremely petty larceny. Hakeem took his seat.
  4. Sharice Davids (D-KS) is “the first openly LGBT Native American elected to the United States Congress”

    As Thomas Frank said “What’s the matter with Kansas?”

    • Replies: @Anonymousse
    Here’s a dramatic imagining of Congressional debate circa 2119

    https://youtu.be/94RGsTvipXs
    , @Anonymous
    Simple: Kansas was settled by insane abolitionists. It's Cuck Central.

    People in Kansas don't like controversy, don't like to put up a fight, avoid conflict.
    That's why they hated Phelps and his family. He was stirring up shit. Everyone knew that Gage Park was a major cruising area and the homos were glory-holing it up in the bathrooms but doing anything about it wasn't to be done. That's what originally set Phelps off.

    Although there are plenty of fundies of various stripes, there are more leftists than you'd think. Shawnee County/ Topeka is pretty left wing as it's loaded with government workers , and Wyandotte still has a fair amount of old line union Democrats mixed in with heavy Mexican presence, legal and otherwise.

    The fundies tend toward the Christian Zionist flavor, too.
    , @216
    The previous GOP incumbent was useless

    Sad thing is that the seat is likely to never flip back
    , @Desiderius
    Bringing up the rear as always. Still think that woke is cool. What a bunch of maroons!
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    "What's the matter with Kansas?"

    Libertarian godfather Charles Koch. And tornadoes. I bet the people are nice, though.
    , @AceDeuce
    FWIW: "What's the Matter With Kansas?" did not originate with Frank. It's the title of a famous 1896 editorial by William Allen White.
  5. Purportedly, what did Sharice do that ticked off Saikat? Is it possible that she did what so many cucks couldn’t do, that is, voted against the “Fairness for High Skilled Immigrants Act” (aka as the Give the Farm away to Indians Act)? I can dream.

  6. “Her name is Congresswoman Davids”?

    Beats Marijuana Pepsi I guess.

  7. And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis?

    It’s known as “clapping back”

    If you look at Yahoo , Google, or Apple news feeds on any iPhone, you will see dozens of news headlines tha take the general form of the following:

    ” X claps back at Y for Z”

    Where X is someone favored by the SJW-left (Megan Rapinoe, Beyonce, etc.)
    Y is someone the group John Derbyshire would call “badwhites” (Mike Pence, Tucker Carlson., etc.)
    Z is usually some innocuous statement of common sense made by Y that offends the hyperacute sensibilities of the SJW’s

    You can construct your own headlines mad-lib style using this formula.

    “Megan Rapinoe claps back at Mike Pence for his comments about loving his biological children.”

    Interestingly, with enough effort and pandering, a Y can become an X. (The clappee can become the clapper.) Taylor Swift would be a good example of this conversion phenomenon.

    • Replies: @guest
    No, clapback is a very simple term. It just means comeback. That's it.

    Those headlines are merely saying "X responds to something Y said."
    , @anon
    So it's a SJW version of the clickbait "slams" (which means rebukes or criticizes).

    Like a snappy comeback?

  8. @Mr. Anon

    Sharice Davids (D-KS) is “the first openly LGBT Native American elected to the United States Congress”
     
    As Thomas Frank said "What's the matter with Kansas?"

    Here’s a dramatic imagining of Congressional debate circa 2119

    • Replies: @donut
    J. Fred Muggs
    , @Bill
    "raised a point of order around members who are making animal noises"

    LOL
    , @Laurence Whelk
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94RGsTvipXs

    Your post sent me down a two-hour rabbit hole of watching South African parliamentary sessions on YouTube - a hilarious, perplexing and yet progressively depressing viewing experience.

    You can build a modern westernized nation out of a primitive wasteland, with physical infrastructure, communications networks and civil organizations. You can give a people the knowledge of parliamentary systems of governance developed over millennia of European struggle. You can teach a tongue-clicking and whooping backwards people a language rich with expressive nuance and linguistic precision. You can hand them Robert’s Rules of Order, a suit and tie, and remind them to start every sentence with “Honorable Members or Honorable Minister”.

    But you can’t fix stupid.

    Every white person who is ecstatic about becoming a minority in the U.S. should have to sit through 12 hours of South African parliamentary sessions - just pick them at random - for a week, maybe some perspective could be gained.
  9. “Our new country is going to be great!”

    &

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/our-new-country-is-going-to-be-awesome/

    Please stop it Uncle Sailer; that’s Aunty Ann’s trademark quip.

  10. “Sharice Davids (D-KS)”

    Maybe I’m just having an acid flashback, but for a moment I thought that (D-KS) meant she was a Democrat representing Kaposi’s sarcoma.

    Wouldn’t be too far out of key, though. It’s all in the game.

  11. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Sharice Davids (D-KS) is “the first openly LGBT Native American elected to the United States Congress”
     
    As Thomas Frank said "What's the matter with Kansas?"

    Simple: Kansas was settled by insane abolitionists. It’s Cuck Central.

    People in Kansas don’t like controversy, don’t like to put up a fight, avoid conflict.
    That’s why they hated Phelps and his family. He was stirring up shit. Everyone knew that Gage Park was a major cruising area and the homos were glory-holing it up in the bathrooms but doing anything about it wasn’t to be done. That’s what originally set Phelps off.

    Although there are plenty of fundies of various stripes, there are more leftists than you’d think. Shawnee County/ Topeka is pretty left wing as it’s loaded with government workers , and Wyandotte still has a fair amount of old line union Democrats mixed in with heavy Mexican presence, legal and otherwise.

    The fundies tend toward the Christian Zionist flavor, too.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    Yeah what kind of madmen would object to being displaced by a tiny minority of planters and their hordes of negroes?
  12. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:

    AOC effectively called Pelosi a racist by accusing of her singling out women of color (AOC, Ilhan, Tlaib, Ayanna Pressley) for rebuke.

    Trump poured fuel on the fire by sticking up for Pelosi:

    So I think the House Democrats’ tweet is a botched clap-back (note the emojis) attempt by the Pelosi Democrats. They’re trying out-maneuver the new AOC POC squad with the very same identity politics and woke mannerisms that make the Future Face of the Party so popular, but not many are fooled.

    White women Democrat voters see this all as a distraction from their pious denunciations of the fences being used to contain some guys they’d never, ever want to meet in a dark alley at night:

    • Replies: @El Dato

    White women Democrat voters see this all as a distraction from their pious denunciations of the fences being used to contain some guys they’d never, ever want to meet in a dark alley at night
     
    Oh really? 50 shades of dark alley!
    , @Clyde

    Trump poured fuel on the fire by sticking up for Pelosi
     
    ahahahhahhah Trump at his finest! Helping out San Fran Nan in her time of need.
    , @Autochthon
    I don't get it. Wait, were concentration camps filled with obese, uppity, Guateraguan men? I seem to remember from all the films and images I have seen a bunch of docile, emaciated Hebrews and Slavs of all ages and both sexes. And from the conversations I had as a child with people who escaped such places, if they'd behaved like the Guateraguans here depicted, they would not have behaved that way for long, for one of two reasons.

    Still and all, she may be on to something: perhaps it would not be a bad idea to make our facilities for detention more like the Germans' in those days. If nothing else, think of the savings on food! We don't even have to leave the detainees emaciated; we can just throttle back until they aren't chubby – which would be a benefit to their health, to boot!

    , @Bugg
    Wow, look at all the women and childre....WAIT A MINUTE!!!
  13. Saikat has also gotten some flak for wearing a shirt of Subhas Chandra Bose – an Indian nationalist who met with Hitler.

    Frankly, I think this criticism of Saikat is stupid and Bose wasn’t a Nazi and wearing a t-shirt of someone does not mean you endorse all of their views.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Subhas Chandra Bose = Hands babes a chorus.

    How fitting for someone whose name now graces eargear.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Bose did more than meet with Hitler, though Gandhi himself was naive about Hitler. If we continue to import Indian elites, we’re going to have to adjust to India’s slightly different moral alignment though.

    For example, consider my Twitter correspondent here.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1149947526621147137?s=21
    , @PiltdownMan

    Frankly, I think this criticism of Saikat is stupid and Bose wasn’t a Nazi and wearing a t-shirt of someone does not mean you endorse all of their views.
     
    Whatever Bose's reputation is in his homeland, this Saikat guy must be pretty stupid.

    Bose met with Himmler and Hitler in 1943, and agreed to the idea of their recruiting nationalist Indians stuck in wartime Europe to form the Indian Legion of the Waffen-SS.

    A Harvard educated political operator should be a bit more savvy than that. I've no idea how many Jewish-American political types on the left know about Bose, but I've got to assume at least some do.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101III-Alber-064-04%2C_Subhas_Chandra_Bose_bei_Heinrich_Himmler.jpg

    , @Mr. Anon

    Saikat has also gotten some flak for wearing a shirt of Subhas Chandra Bose – an Indian nationalist who met with Hitler.

    Frankly, I think this criticism of Saikat is stupid and Bose wasn’t a Nazi and wearing a t-shirt of someone does not mean you endorse all of their views.
     
    This is a guy who would never be caught dead wearing a T-shirt with an image of George Washington or Thomas Jefferson (or probably even Benjamin Franklin), but he will honor an Indian nationalist. Yeah, these immigrants assimilate so well. Immigrants are fine as long as they are legal - the GOP keeps telling itself that.
  14. @Mr. Anon

    Sharice Davids (D-KS) is “the first openly LGBT Native American elected to the United States Congress”
     
    As Thomas Frank said "What's the matter with Kansas?"

    The previous GOP incumbent was useless

    Sad thing is that the seat is likely to never flip back

  15. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    “And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis? Is that some Black Woman of Color thing like snapping your fingers while making the shape of a Z was back during In Living Color era?”

    Correct.

    Didn’t you ever see those campus SJW mobbing videos on you tube? When a SJW speaks, especially a WOC, they all snap their fingers repeatedly?

    The clapping thing evolved from that as not everyone has the dexterity to snap their fingers.
    • Replies: @guest
    Calling those hands "clapback" is misleading. Clapback is simply a comeback. They "dis" you, you dis in return.

    Using emojis between words like that is for emphasis. Same way white folk might type: "worst...[blank]...ever." Or how everyone knows to use capslock.
  16. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:

    Also, note that “keep her name out of your mouth” is lifted from the recent Ayanna Pressley’s “Distraction Becky” tweet, but is effectively being used against her wing.

    It’s completely synthetic.

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    Oh yeah. I was wondering whereI just saw that. I think that phrase is a thing, too. I for one hail our new emoji-wielding, rap-argot-slinging mouth censors.
    , @S. Anonyia
    That isn't an original phrase as coined by Pressley, it is urban dictionary speak that has become popular among ghetto teenagers in the past couple of years. "Keep my name out of your mouth" is usually issued as a challenge right before fighting. The general public does not realize how belligerent and juvenile the phrase actually is. It is not just some cute wokism.
    , @AceDeuce
    That phrase has long been used by blekpypo. I've heard it for the past 40 years.
  17. • Replies: @Lurker
    You wait all day for a Chakrabarti and then two come along at once.
  18. And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis?

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PunctuatedForEmphasis

  19. Read the comments

    They are talking about republicans evil treatment of migrants (undocumented Americans) in the concentration camps

    All the People in the comments agree that white males are the scourge of the earth

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Steve's already properly identified them as Pre-American-Americans.

    Keep up, old man.
    , @TWS
    Lame! Nothing about the big brown Johnson's that white women crave, nothing about how white people are appropriating colored cultural norms. You're phoning it in. Better duck or GTFO.
  20. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:

    Whoever the ‘Chakraborti’ clan/caste/family etc is or are, they are doing a remarkably good job of infiltrating the western body politic. In the UK, Marxist Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has made a Chakraborti – who sends her kid to an exclusive private school – senior legal counsel.
    Another Chakraborti is a senior BBC newsreader.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Chakraborti Swarm Attack!

    Everyone is hip to the fact that moribund western "democracies" are ripe for takeover. 50+ years of politicial engineering by homegrown "operators" and "friendly connections" (a lot of them happy merchants and nasty mobsters) have softened them up and documented how it's done. The Blair/Bush alternative reality dreckshow was the last shot of the druggie.

    That this is going on as complete fatbrains in Armani talk about how RT is menacing democracy is a case in point.
    , @PiltdownMan
    Yet another is a big name English Literature professor.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayatri_Chakravorty_Spivak

    Enjoy.
    http://www.bahaistudies.net/neurelitism/library/subaltern_speak.pdf

  21. Sharice Davids = I dish cadavers.

    Saikat Chakrabarti = A basic khaki Tartar.

    Hakeem Jeffries = Safe if he jerk me.

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
    Nicely done.
  22. Anon[276] • Disclaimer says:

    I never heard of any of these people before today

    Um, you haven’t? This video came out what, 4 months ago, and has had over 2.5 million views?

    Cliff Notes for Clueless Boomers (CB’s): Saikat Chakrabarti is actually more influential than AOC. She is just the public face. Chakrabarti’s group, the Justice Democrats, are hardcore Marxists whose sole intention is to undermine the US government and foment a communist revolution. AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and one more were elected because they responded to a casting call from the Justice Democrats. Prior to that, AOC had no interest in politics. She is an actor. That’s why she looks like a complete fool when she goes away from her scripted talking points.

    Chakrabarti and AOC were also involved in a huge campaign funds embezzlement scandal a few months ago. God I can’t do all the work for you guys!!

    • Replies: @notanon

    Chakrabarti’s group, the Justice Democrats, are hardcore Marxists whose sole intention is to undermine the US government and foment a communist revolution.
     
    hardcore nepotists whose sole intention is to grab what they can for themselves and their relatives via bioleninism (i.e. gaining allies from the "oppressed" by pretending to care about them).

    south Asian immigration is going to be a perfect test-case of whether Jewish success is solely the result of IQ and not at least partially the result of shamelessness and nepotism cos they're in the process of being out-competed in the latter two.
    , @Autochthon
    So, Occasionl-Kotex is the political version of Elizabeth Holmes, with a Hindoo Svengali controlling and schtupping her?

    That actually makes a lot of sense.
    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    The question is: what is Chakrbariauta's true goal? Why would a tech billionaire want to start a communist revolution? He's obviously not stupid.

    I suspect this has more to do with his hatred of whites - he just wants to crash the system and make whites suffer; then he will bring millions of Indians in to take over the USA. Something like that. His group is the most anti white, anti America I've ever seen.
    , @Counterinsurgency

    God I can’t do all the work for you guys!!
     
    There was a scene in H. Harrison's _Bil, the Galactic Hero_, that fits the audience reaction. After being drugged into signing up for the Imperial forces, Bil (formerly Bill, but two "l"s are for officers only) is attending a mandatory lecture on the Imperial code for criminal justice. This is a paraphrase:

    The recruits weren't interested. They knew they had signed away every human right when they enlisted, and weren't interested in the details."
     
    But the news is important for some, including some here. The entire Federal government is becoming highly dysfunctional.

    "We tax you so that we can import foreigners and internal migrants who are physical threats to you and your relatives (including children), we make it almost impossible to have a family unless you are working for us or with us, and, to top it off, we're picking a fight with several nuclear armed countries. We also call you names and make faces at you (e.g. AOC, Maddow)."

    Since government's main publicly announced function now is to destroy (Whiteness, pollution, haters, etc), it's hard to fail, and and any clown can participate, the more clownish the better.

    It's important that people know just how far downhill things have gone; Trump's election shows that. Unlike H. Harrison's book, the present system is not statically stable. Western civilization depends upon a balancing act that requires high competence: look at California, which is apparently about to lose its electrical grid through looting it it even of maintenance funds.

    The present Western system is, in large part, a response to the financial non-viability of US cities after c.a. AD 1960. Western society has largely been an urban phenomenon. When Western cities lost light manufacturing due to containerization of cargo, the Interstates, and world wide cheap high bandwidth electronic communications (and destruction of capital during WW I and II), they started supporting themselves through tax monies, through politics. This was made possible by the Third World "population explosion" and the "birth dearth" among European descended Western populations.

    Should urban support through tax monies become unworkable (say through attempts to "manipulate the currency", through military failure removes US protection from the sea lanes, through simple tax revolts, through a natural disaster (CA quakes, New Orleans flooding, widespread crop failures), through, in short, the next real national emergency, the current system would transform itself. We saw an example of that in the transformation of Louisiana politics after New Orleans flooded from Katrina and the voters moved out of New Orleans.

    The more corrupt the system, the more likely such a transformation will occur. So: Thanks for the news. Somebody has to do it ("'Somebody, somebody has to, you see.'So she picked out two somebodies: Sally and me.").

    Counterinsugency



    Counterinsurgency
    , @danand

    "Um, you haven’t? This video came out what, 4 months ago, and has had over 2.5 million views?"
     
    #276, I just became aware of this video/history a few days ago. Kind of surprising. if there's any credence, that her political path is not more part of the "common knowledge". Especially given that she's currently the 3rd or 4th most quoted US political figure?
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    Yep, you nailed it. I hope the Justice Democrats continue their Jacobin reign of terror in the Democratic Party. It would be most illuminative for the progressive Beckys/Betsys in the party to take a gander at the hate emanating from the black and brown faces of the Squad. The Democratic Party needs to implode and moderate from the wreckage. It's obvious by now but bears repeating: Saikat Chakrabarti is the son of Indian immigrants.
    , @Thea
    He must be the reason Bernie Sanders dropped his pro-American worker / anti-open borders stance
  23. @gman
    Saikat has also gotten some flak for wearing a shirt of Subhas Chandra Bose - an Indian nationalist who met with Hitler.

    Frankly, I think this criticism of Saikat is stupid and Bose wasn't a Nazi and wearing a t-shirt of someone does not mean you endorse all of their views.

    Subhas Chandra Bose = Hands babes a chorus.

    How fitting for someone whose name now graces eargear.

  24. “Keep👏🏾Her👏🏾Name👏🏾Out👏🏾Of👏🏾Your👏🏾Mouth.”

    This facsimile of black girl mannerisms is revolting and terrifying. I’ve been triggered.

  25. @Lot
    “And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis? Is that some Black Woman of Color thing like snapping your fingers while making the shape of a Z was back during In Living Color era?”

    Correct.

    Didn’t you ever see those campus SJW mobbing videos on you tube? When a SJW speaks, especially a WOC, they all snap their fingers repeatedly?

    The clapping thing evolved from that as not everyone has the dexterity to snap their fingers.

    Nah it’s a “Waah I Can’t Hear Youuuu” Conversation Desparker.

  26. Too many normal folk run in fear from the Coalition when they go on the attack. Reminds me of a scene from Life of Brian.

    • Replies: @Thea
    Good analogy. Cowering at being called a racist/ sexist/ homophobe/ bigot and genuflecting wilding to prove it wrong is the exact wrong response. The GOP should Act like a gnat is buzzing around their ears and walk away shrugging.
  27. @Lot
    “And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis? Is that some Black Woman of Color thing like snapping your fingers while making the shape of a Z was back during In Living Color era?”

    Correct.

    Didn’t you ever see those campus SJW mobbing videos on you tube? When a SJW speaks, especially a WOC, they all snap their fingers repeatedly?

    The clapping thing evolved from that as not everyone has the dexterity to snap their fingers.

    In the infamous Jerelyn Luther Banshee video, the righteous POCs were snapping their fingers whenever the White Man dared to speak, thereby making his words somewhat inaudible. I think it’s how they show respect.

  28. @Anonymous
    Whoever the 'Chakraborti' clan/caste/family etc is or are, they are doing a remarkably good job of infiltrating the western body politic. In the UK, Marxist Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has made a Chakraborti - who sends her kid to an exclusive private school - senior legal counsel.
    Another Chakraborti is a senior BBC newsreader.

    Chakraborti Swarm Attack!

    Everyone is hip to the fact that moribund western “democracies” are ripe for takeover. 50+ years of politicial engineering by homegrown “operators” and “friendly connections” (a lot of them happy merchants and nasty mobsters) have softened them up and documented how it’s done. The Blair/Bush alternative reality dreckshow was the last shot of the druggie.

    That this is going on as complete fatbrains in Armani talk about how RT is menacing democracy is a case in point.

  29. @Anonymous
    AOC effectively called Pelosi a racist by accusing of her singling out women of color (AOC, Ilhan, Tlaib, Ayanna Pressley) for rebuke.

    Trump poured fuel on the fire by sticking up for Pelosi:

    https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1149766008984367104

    So I think the House Democrats' tweet is a botched clap-back (note the emojis) attempt by the Pelosi Democrats. They're trying out-maneuver the new AOC POC squad with the very same identity politics and woke mannerisms that make the Future Face of the Party so popular, but not many are fooled.

    White women Democrat voters see this all as a distraction from their pious denunciations of the fences being used to contain some guys they'd never, ever want to meet in a dark alley at night:

    https://twitter.com/AccountistLisa/status/1149828606266241024

    White women Democrat voters see this all as a distraction from their pious denunciations of the fences being used to contain some guys they’d never, ever want to meet in a dark alley at night

    Oh really? 50 shades of dark alley!

    • Replies: @Rosie

    Oh really? 50 shades of dark alley!
     
    Statistically, White women don't have much use for indios and mestizos. White men, on the other hand...
  30. @gman
    Saikat has also gotten some flak for wearing a shirt of Subhas Chandra Bose - an Indian nationalist who met with Hitler.

    Frankly, I think this criticism of Saikat is stupid and Bose wasn't a Nazi and wearing a t-shirt of someone does not mean you endorse all of their views.

    Bose did more than meet with Hitler, though Gandhi himself was naive about Hitler. If we continue to import Indian elites, we’re going to have to adjust to India’s slightly different moral alignment though.

    For example, consider my Twitter correspondent here.

    • Agree: Lot, PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @eah
    If we continue to import Indian elites, we’re going to have to adjust to India’s slightly different moral alignment though.

    Let's pass on the "continue to import Indian elites" part then.

    See, that's the unappreciated simplicity of White Nationalism: you don't need a reason to not want any more Indians -- the fact they're Indians is enough.

    But thanks for providing a pretty good reason, even if it is somewhat anecdotal.

    , @Fidelios Automata
    The British Raj was the best thing that ever happened to India. They should be sending reparations to the UK for all the infrastructure and advancements the British gave the country -- as well as making the nation of India possible in the first place.
    , @Dr Van Nostrand
    It's not Bose's concern to liberate Europe. Churchill to him was Hitler who oversaw the deaths of millions of his country men. Enemy's enemy and all that. Same deal with the Irish who stayed out.
    Only a cuck would insist for fighting for a guy who slaughtered his people.
  31. @Mr McKenna
    Lesbian special-ed teacher who abused female student walks; promises she'll keep doing it.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7242331/Teacher-affair-student-avoids-jail-judge-says-isnt-sexual-predator.html

    Another female teacher sentenced to 20 years for relations with male student.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7242265/Ex-Arizona-teacher-28-sex-13-year-old-boy-sentenced-20-years-prison.html

    Uh, read the text messages in the story on the second case.

    Van Halen had a hit song called, “Hot for Teacher,” for a reason.

    • Replies: @Laurence Whelk
    After viewing several internet pictures of Brittany Zamora, I had a brief conference with my 13-year-old self. Though I advised, from long experience with women, that she probably has a bit of the crazy in her eyes, 13-year-old Lance decided, given the opportunity, there’s no way he could pass up hittin’ that, and would not consider Ms. Zamora to have committed any sort of crime against him. While I have legitimate reservations about the wisdom of his decision making, I can certainly understand his point of view.

    https://www.insideedition.com/sites/default/files/images/2019-03/030119_sex_teacher_web.jpg
  32. @Lot
    “And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis? Is that some Black Woman of Color thing like snapping your fingers while making the shape of a Z was back during In Living Color era?”

    Correct.

    Didn’t you ever see those campus SJW mobbing videos on you tube? When a SJW speaks, especially a WOC, they all snap their fingers repeatedly?

    The clapping thing evolved from that as not everyone has the dexterity to snap their fingers.

    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?

    I’m lost.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan

    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?
     
    Perhaps the emojis are meant to convey that Saikat is being slapped in the face once after each word as he's being told to shut up?
    , @Lot
    It is just like italics for emphasis for the woke crowd. It doesn’t have anything to do with insults.

    Here’s Dave Weigel doing it ironically:

    https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1039926920304058370

    , @Kyle
    Black girls clap their hands in your face on every syllable as an act of aggression and to try to get you to strike first. The house democrat tweet account has adopted this mannerism because minstrel comedy rules the roost on Twitter.
    , @anonymous
    The claps are a Black Twitter thing that got picked up by the wokies a couple years ago.
    , @Realist

    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?

    I’m lost.
     
    Why try to understand dumbassery?
    , @PennTothal
    A good visual primer for understanding "clapback":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa2nySiUDA0
    , @Laurence Whelk
    Steve, your expectation that things “make sense” is a sign of HuhWite Priveludge.
    , @WowJustWow
    I think it's like when you scold a dog. Bad dog! Don't 👏🏾Jump 👏🏾On 👏🏾The 👏🏾Kitchen 👏🏾Counter.
    , @Anon
    I remember setting a post by a linguistics Ph.D. Working for a data science company in which she analyzed a huge database of tweets to determine which was the most prevalent clap format: between each word, after each word, before each word, or before and after the sentence and between each word in the sentence. I wonder what her next project will be? Assigning a wokeness quotient to each tweet and correlating the clap pattern with the wokeness?
    , @guest
    It's just for emphasis. That's all.
  33. @gman
    Saikat has also gotten some flak for wearing a shirt of Subhas Chandra Bose - an Indian nationalist who met with Hitler.

    Frankly, I think this criticism of Saikat is stupid and Bose wasn't a Nazi and wearing a t-shirt of someone does not mean you endorse all of their views.

    Frankly, I think this criticism of Saikat is stupid and Bose wasn’t a Nazi and wearing a t-shirt of someone does not mean you endorse all of their views.

    Whatever Bose’s reputation is in his homeland, this Saikat guy must be pretty stupid.

    Bose met with Himmler and Hitler in 1943, and agreed to the idea of their recruiting nationalist Indians stuck in wartime Europe to form the Indian Legion of the Waffen-SS.

    A Harvard educated political operator should be a bit more savvy than that. I’ve no idea how many Jewish-American political types on the left know about Bose, but I’ve got to assume at least some do.

    • Replies: @Lot
    It would still be dumb to care. Sometimes circumstances pushed people into a Hitler alliance when they’d probably have preferred other allies instead. This was certainly the case for the Finns and Romanians in WWII.

    Wanting the British out of India was the healthy thing for Indians in 1943 and only the Axis were willing to help.
    , @Father O'Hara
    The guy in the center looks like an actor Hollywood would hire to play a Nazi.
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    That Himmler was a looker.
  34. “Openly LGBT” means lesbian or trans? Hard to tell from the photo.

  35. @Steve Sailer
    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?

    I'm lost.

    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?

    Perhaps the emojis are meant to convey that Saikat is being slapped in the face once after each word as he’s being told to shut up?

    • Replies: @Sam Malone
    lol
  36. eah says:

    Some ‘circular firing squad’ aspects to this:

    Seattle City Council candidate wants to solve homelessness with cargo containers, work

    Which turned out to be surprisingly interesting — take the time to listen to her interview — note her FB page, especially the excerpted Jul 9 post — follow the links to see the ugly extent of Seattle’s homeless problem.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    Shipping containers reduce the homelessness numbers particularly well when the containers are loaded on trucks or ships and transported to other parts of the world.
    , @anon
    Here proposal is couched in SJW language about helping the homeless with "programs". But when you cut through the bullshit she is saying we should round up vagrants and lock them up on a county work farm.
    Sounds like a good idea to me.
  37. @Anonymous
    Whoever the 'Chakraborti' clan/caste/family etc is or are, they are doing a remarkably good job of infiltrating the western body politic. In the UK, Marxist Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has made a Chakraborti - who sends her kid to an exclusive private school - senior legal counsel.
    Another Chakraborti is a senior BBC newsreader.
    • Replies: @Clyde

    Yet another is a big name English Literature professor.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayatri_Chakravorty_Spivak
     
    What a sickening deranged poMo bitch. Imported from India. And she has been paid by American universities to spread her madness. btw 50% of PoMo and Post Colonial theory is careerism gone wild in the University. iow they are base money grabbers.
  38. @Steve Sailer
    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?

    I'm lost.

    It is just like italics for emphasis for the woke crowd. It doesn’t have anything to do with insults.

    Here’s Dave Weigel doing it ironically:

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    "Here's Dave Weigel doing it ironically ..."

    Are you sure about that? He is a member of the DC media collective.
  39. Lot says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Frankly, I think this criticism of Saikat is stupid and Bose wasn’t a Nazi and wearing a t-shirt of someone does not mean you endorse all of their views.
     
    Whatever Bose's reputation is in his homeland, this Saikat guy must be pretty stupid.

    Bose met with Himmler and Hitler in 1943, and agreed to the idea of their recruiting nationalist Indians stuck in wartime Europe to form the Indian Legion of the Waffen-SS.

    A Harvard educated political operator should be a bit more savvy than that. I've no idea how many Jewish-American political types on the left know about Bose, but I've got to assume at least some do.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101III-Alber-064-04%2C_Subhas_Chandra_Bose_bei_Heinrich_Himmler.jpg

    It would still be dumb to care. Sometimes circumstances pushed people into a Hitler alliance when they’d probably have preferred other allies instead. This was certainly the case for the Finns and Romanians in WWII.

    Wanting the British out of India was the healthy thing for Indians in 1943 and only the Axis were willing to help.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    Agreed about Bose in Germany in 1943, India and the British. I'm not faulting Bose.

    But a political operative, above all, should be thinking about optics. And in these times, more than ever before, effective political attacks are fashioned out of the merest wisps of historical information.

    That photograph of Bose in 1943 is pure political dynamite in America in 2019. One tweet is all it would take to hurt the Saikat guy. He should have understood that. I guess ethnic pride and what he thought would be an obscure and hip reference is what made him wear the t-shirt. That tells me that he's not that smart a politico.

    So yeah, Mr. Sailer is right. Circular firing squad.

    , @Dave Pinsen
    All the famous Indian nationalists wanted the British out of India, but only Bose, AFAIK, allied himself with Hitler, and, later, Tojo. Morality aside, this was dumb for two reasons. Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British. And second, Bose stuck with the Axis when it was obvious they were losing the war.
    , @Jack D
    Having to choose between Stalin and Hitler was not a great situation to be in, but there were better and worse ways of going about this. For example the Poles, even their right wing forces, were for the most part not wild about the Germans while the Ukrainians were pretty enthusiastic about joining up with them and working for the SS as camp guards so on. Even if you were eager to get the British out of India, becoming an ally with the odious Nazis and Japanese militarists was not a good idea (especially not in retrospect) and very few other Indian leaders went that far.
  40. Steve,

    Surprisingly, Representative Sharice Davids is probably better than her Republican predecessor, Kevin Yoder, who served as the foremost quintessential big-business shill for unlimited immigration!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Yoder deliberately sabotaged his own party by not campaigning after defeating challengers to his right in the primary.
    , @Daniel H
    Surprisingly, Representative Sharice Davids is probably better than her Republican predecessor, Kevin Yoder, who served as the foremost quintessential big-business shill for unlimited immigration!

    Absolutely. We have to get our heads around the idea that ANY alternative to the Cuck is preferable. I don't care if that alternative is a crazy, white-hating, clueless socialist loon. The Cuck is the most destructive political phenomenon out there. The Cuck is destroying our future and that of our posterity.
    , @dr kill
    I sent her some wampum. Fuck Yoder.
    , @Anonymous
    I first read her outlandishly identified as an "MMA-competing truck driver" (apart from the LGBTIIAQTGP merit badge stuff which I can never keep, well, straight) but apparently she's a lawyer, had outraised Yoder by $1 mil -- despite his excellent rapport with donors -- and then beat him by 10 points.

    The district is based in the Kansas City metropolitan area and surrounding suburbs in eastern Kansas. Cities include Kansas City and Overland Park. Incumbent Republican Kevin Yoder had represented the district since 2011. Yoder was re-elected with 51% of the vote in 2016. Yoder lost to his Democratic challenger, attorney Sharice Davids, who became one of the first Native American women ever elected to Congress.
     
    , @istevefan
    Sharice Davids, the American Indian, defeated Kevin Yoder, the congressman for India.
  41. eah says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Bose did more than meet with Hitler, though Gandhi himself was naive about Hitler. If we continue to import Indian elites, we’re going to have to adjust to India’s slightly different moral alignment though.

    For example, consider my Twitter correspondent here.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1149947526621147137?s=21

    If we continue to import Indian elites, we’re going to have to adjust to India’s slightly different moral alignment though.

    Let’s pass on the “continue to import Indian elites” part then.

    See, that’s the unappreciated simplicity of White Nationalism: you don’t need a reason to not want any more Indians — the fact they’re Indians is enough.

    But thanks for providing a pretty good reason, even if it is somewhat anecdotal.

  42. @Lot
    It would still be dumb to care. Sometimes circumstances pushed people into a Hitler alliance when they’d probably have preferred other allies instead. This was certainly the case for the Finns and Romanians in WWII.

    Wanting the British out of India was the healthy thing for Indians in 1943 and only the Axis were willing to help.

    Agreed about Bose in Germany in 1943, India and the British. I’m not faulting Bose.

    But a political operative, above all, should be thinking about optics. And in these times, more than ever before, effective political attacks are fashioned out of the merest wisps of historical information.

    That photograph of Bose in 1943 is pure political dynamite in America in 2019. One tweet is all it would take to hurt the Saikat guy. He should have understood that. I guess ethnic pride and what he thought would be an obscure and hip reference is what made him wear the t-shirt. That tells me that he’s not that smart a politico.

    So yeah, Mr. Sailer is right. Circular firing squad.

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @Anon
    Bose is a national hero in India, like various other figures in various parts of Europe (you're not going to find much Mannerheim-hatred among Finns, for instance). That"POC" don't really care much about the political obsessions of Jews, and the havoc that fact sometimes causes in leftist ranks, are pretty common topics on here.


    Indian sari:

    https://5.imimg.com/data5/DS/AH/MY-51995407/box-check-blue-kota-silk-saree-500x500.jpg

  43. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:

    How many years until we see scenes like this on Capitol Hill?

  44. Feather indians versus .indians, who wins the race to the bottom of the totem pole?

    • Replies: @guest
    Feather Indians have the upper hand in totem pole competitions.
  45. @Lot
    It would still be dumb to care. Sometimes circumstances pushed people into a Hitler alliance when they’d probably have preferred other allies instead. This was certainly the case for the Finns and Romanians in WWII.

    Wanting the British out of India was the healthy thing for Indians in 1943 and only the Axis were willing to help.

    All the famous Indian nationalists wanted the British out of India, but only Bose, AFAIK, allied himself with Hitler, and, later, Tojo. Morality aside, this was dumb for two reasons. Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British. And second, Bose stuck with the Axis when it was obvious they were losing the war.

    • Replies: @Altai

    Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent,
     
    I don't know that Japan had the manpower to occupy Korea, much of Manchuria, the key coastal cities of China, Burma and India. Maybe they could have recruited local proxies but that kind of setup requires some years of institutional grooming to be reliable. (Otherwise you're just arming the natives)
    , @AndrewR
    What? The UK was on the winning side but was forced to give up India VERY soon after the war. I'm not sure why you think a victorious Axis would definitely or even likely have been able to rule India, assuming that anyone had even wanted to.

    As for sticking with a clearly losing Axis, the goal was to weaken the UK not simply to ally with the winners. India was not a war bride. And obviously this was a good strategy for the Indian independence movement.

    , @istevefan

    Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British.
     
    That is a big assumption. Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?

    Either Germany or Japan would have been worn out even if they had won the war, and would not have been in a position to subdue such a large nation like India that was not close to their borders. Logistics was not the strong point of Germany or Japan like it was with the US.
    , @Hippopotamusdrome


    India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese

     

    Imagine...Today India run by the Japanese...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km3xt49fHq4
    , @Marcus

    India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British.
     
    I'm not 100% sure about that, the Japanese occupation was often light in areas where they didn't have much resistance to deal with, like Indonesia, Burma, French Indochina and Malaysia (the later two became hostile later on); and I doubt many Indians would have felt compelled to take up arms to restore the Raj, except maybe some Muslims.
    , @Anonymous

    Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent
     
    What makes you think this? It's likely the victorious Japanese would be too busy in China, and the Germans in Russia, to menace Indian independence.

    Anyway, India was becoming ungovernable by 1942, and the British had to cut a deal with Gandhi to maintain order. It was clear they were on their way out no matter how the war ended.
    , @Jack Hanson
    There's a neat alternate history novella I read where exactly that happens: Gandhi's crew helps the Germans (who win the war overall), and he asks Model (I think) when the Germans are leaving. From there things continue to go downhill with Gandhi trying non violence against the Wehrmacht, which almost works until a bunch of SS with extensive time on the Eastern Front come around the corner and it ends how you'd expect.

    Gandhi's followers are all pissed at him and he's telling then "yeah but wait until the MEDIA reports it!". And he's shocked to hear what happened described as a failed terrorist attack. From there it keeps getting worst with the Muslims turning on Gandhi and handing him over to the Germans for summary execution.
  46. @Steve Sailer
    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?

    I'm lost.

    Black girls clap their hands in your face on every syllable as an act of aggression and to try to get you to strike first. The house democrat tweet account has adopted this mannerism because minstrel comedy rules the roost on Twitter.

  47. @Dave Pinsen
    All the famous Indian nationalists wanted the British out of India, but only Bose, AFAIK, allied himself with Hitler, and, later, Tojo. Morality aside, this was dumb for two reasons. Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British. And second, Bose stuck with the Axis when it was obvious they were losing the war.

    Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent,

    I don’t know that Japan had the manpower to occupy Korea, much of Manchuria, the key coastal cities of China, Burma and India. Maybe they could have recruited local proxies but that kind of setup requires some years of institutional grooming to be reliable. (Otherwise you’re just arming the natives)

  48. Would someone kindly explain to me why South Asians seem so heavily overrepresented among the ranks of SJW cultural enforcers? Why do they all seem to aspire to be the Woke Joseph Goebbels?

    It’s becoming really, really tiresome. Anti-semites are forever putting (((echoes))) around the names of Jews, but personally I’m more struck by the fact that every time I read an article or see a book or a video clip of someone lecturing me about how I’m both a bad person and a bad American, it’s nearly always someone who’s barely off the boat from New Delhi. My roots stretch back to Colonial times and my ancestors fought in the American Revolution, but a guy named “Saikat Chakrabarti” wants to lecture ME about the proper way to be an American. The NERVE!

    Am I the only one who thinks this will end very badly, and is angry at our leaders for allowing this to happen? Sure, call me a “white nationalist” or whatever, if that makes you feel better. But can you point to a single society in human history where importing a highly visible foreign overclass to push around the natives hasn’t ended in a bloody disaster?

    • Agree: GermanReader2, jim jones
    • Replies: @guest
    The thing with the echoes is that it's sometimes difficult to tell if a person is Jewish. Dot Indians are rather more conspicuous.
    , @Anon
    Indians want to push into the US and take over because they know their own society is kaput. It's going to hit demographic catastrophe pretty soon, and the Brahmans wants a bolt hole where they'll be on top when millions of people start starving in India and go into a rage-filled 'off with their heads' scenario much like of the French Revolution, where the elites were exterminated for screwing up.

    It's a caste thing. Brahmans cannot accept being lower-caste than a white, so they're going to try to take over white countries. The US is easier than Britain, which has a hereditary elite because of its nobility.
    , @Thea
    Something in their culture makes humiliating others seem desirable. The way they treat the Dalit and widows is really hard to swallow as a moral person. But if humiliating other people is seen as a virtue, the such behavior is acceptable. Whites are the untouchables now.


    I’ve said before that Islam from the Mogul invasion was a vast improvement over Hindu morality.

    , @notanon

    Would someone kindly explain to me why South Asians seem so heavily overrepresented among the ranks of SJW cultural enforcers?
     
    they're taking over from Jews as the leaders of the anti-white coalition.
  49. And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis? Is that some Black Woman of Color thing like snapping your fingers while making the shape of a Z was back during In Living Color era?

    I thought that represents her bitch-slapping the fool.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    The Pirates used to do this Z thing after a big base hit --
    it's from Dude Where's My Car?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoltan_(hand_gesture)
  50. @eah
    Some 'circular firing squad' aspects to this:

    Seattle City Council candidate wants to solve homelessness with cargo containers, work

    Which turned out to be surprisingly interesting -- take the time to listen to her interview -- note her FB page, especially the excerpted Jul 9 post -- follow the links to see the ugly extent of Seattle's homeless problem.

    Shipping containers reduce the homelessness numbers particularly well when the containers are loaded on trucks or ships and transported to other parts of the world.

  51. @PiltdownMan

    Frankly, I think this criticism of Saikat is stupid and Bose wasn’t a Nazi and wearing a t-shirt of someone does not mean you endorse all of their views.
     
    Whatever Bose's reputation is in his homeland, this Saikat guy must be pretty stupid.

    Bose met with Himmler and Hitler in 1943, and agreed to the idea of their recruiting nationalist Indians stuck in wartime Europe to form the Indian Legion of the Waffen-SS.

    A Harvard educated political operator should be a bit more savvy than that. I've no idea how many Jewish-American political types on the left know about Bose, but I've got to assume at least some do.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101III-Alber-064-04%2C_Subhas_Chandra_Bose_bei_Heinrich_Himmler.jpg

    The guy in the center looks like an actor Hollywood would hire to play a Nazi.

  52. Anonymous[146] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Surprisingly, Representative Sharice Davids is probably better than her Republican predecessor, Kevin Yoder, who served as the foremost quintessential big-business shill for unlimited immigration!

    Yoder deliberately sabotaged his own party by not campaigning after defeating challengers to his right in the primary.

  53. OT: The ‘Black Vests’ strike again.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48969438

    Hundreds of undocumented migrants have stormed the Panthéon in Paris and demanded the right to remain in France.

    The protesters, who were mainly from West Africa, surged into the building at around midday (11:00 GMT) on Friday.

    Tourists were evacuated from the mausoleum, where many of France’s most famous figures are buried.

    The group called themselves the “black vests” – a reference to the yellow vest protest movement that spread through much of France earlier this year.

    They waved papers in the air, chanted, and demanded to hold talks with Prime Minister Édouard Philippe over their immigration status.

    Their famous slogan “France does not belong to the French!” sounds like a war goad if ever I heard one.
    Who is putting them up to this? They’re getting more international press than the yellow vests anyway.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmZlKxnvTSM

    https://twitter.com/MaximeThiebaut/status/1149720684039479297
  54. @Mr McKenna
    Lesbian special-ed teacher who abused female student walks; promises she'll keep doing it.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7242331/Teacher-affair-student-avoids-jail-judge-says-isnt-sexual-predator.html

    Another female teacher sentenced to 20 years for relations with male student.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7242265/Ex-Arizona-teacher-28-sex-13-year-old-boy-sentenced-20-years-prison.html

    The bigger question is: female accountability & a sense of morality. Sometimes, they’re better than men; but in other instances….

    And 20 years (even if it was 2 years) is absolutely absurd. The only person I feel sorry in these cases is her husband.

  55. Keep My Name Out Yo Mouf + Clapback, is that even Current Year? And why, praytell, can’t we have her name in mouth? I thought that phrase was for situations where people are spreading rumors or defaming others.

  56. @Lot
    “And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis? Is that some Black Woman of Color thing like snapping your fingers while making the shape of a Z was back during In Living Color era?”

    Correct.

    Didn’t you ever see those campus SJW mobbing videos on you tube? When a SJW speaks, especially a WOC, they all snap their fingers repeatedly?

    The clapping thing evolved from that as not everyone has the dexterity to snap their fingers.

    In my experience black girls are the epicenter of clapping while they talk. Mostly when they’re in an argument. There must be a term for it, but I am at a loss.

  57. @Anonymous
    Actually...

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/clapback-meaning-origin

    Calling those hands “clapback” is misleading. Clapback is simply a comeback. They “dis” you, you dis in return.

    Using emojis between words like that is for emphasis. Same way white folk might type: “worst…[blank]…ever.” Or how everyone knows to use capslock.

  58. anonymous[196] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?

    I'm lost.

    The claps are a Black Twitter thing that got picked up by the wokies a couple years ago.

  59. @PennTothal

    And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis?
     
    It's known as "clapping back"

    If you look at Yahoo , Google, or Apple news feeds on any iPhone, you will see dozens of news headlines tha take the general form of the following:

    " X claps back at Y for Z"

    Where X is someone favored by the SJW-left (Megan Rapinoe, Beyonce, etc.)
    Y is someone the group John Derbyshire would call "badwhites" (Mike Pence, Tucker Carlson., etc.)
    Z is usually some innocuous statement of common sense made by Y that offends the hyperacute sensibilities of the SJW's

    You can construct your own headlines mad-lib style using this formula.

    "Megan Rapinoe claps back at Mike Pence for his comments about loving his biological children."

    Interestingly, with enough effort and pandering, a Y can become an X. (The clappee can become the clapper.) Taylor Swift would be a good example of this conversion phenomenon.

    No, clapback is a very simple term. It just means comeback. That’s it.

    Those headlines are merely saying “X responds to something Y said.”

  60. Our Left is becoming totally Bolshevized. Party discipline demands no dissent in any matter great or small. The word “racist” is fully equivalent to “fascist agent” or kulak. I am not kidding – if they ever get into control, we will get a wall – one they will be lining people up against before yelling “fire”.

  61. A recent tactic by Democrats of Color seems to be to state that they do not believe someone they disagree with is a racist but to then go on to imply that the person is.

  62. Another stooopid upper caste Hindoo throwing around the word “racist”. A dime a dozen in the USA. And this Indian Congress critter? “She doesn’t look like any Indian to me”

    Some Indian on Indian action. Dot vs Feather.

  63. @Steve Sailer
    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?

    I'm lost.

    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?

    I’m lost.

    Why try to understand dumbassery?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    You may not be interested in dumbassery, but dumbassery is interested in you.

    See Ayanna Presley or A. Ocasio-Cortez, generally. This is the future of American politics.
  64. @Steve Sailer
    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?

    I'm lost.

    A good visual primer for understanding “clapback”:

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    That's really good, and explains a lot. Kevin Hart - hmmm...must check out.
  65. Green New Deal
    Chakrabarti led the Ocasio-Cortez staff and several progressive groups in writing the Green New Deal legislation,[18] submitted to the House of Representatives by Ocasio-Cortez and to the Senate by Ed Markey February 7, 2019. The New Yorker quotes him as saying, “We spent the weekend learning how to put laws together. We looked up how to write resolutions.”[18]

    Chakrabarti was born and raised in a Bengali family in Fort Worth, Texas.[4][5] He attended Harvard University, graduating in 2007 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in computer science.[6]

  66. @Anonymous
    AOC effectively called Pelosi a racist by accusing of her singling out women of color (AOC, Ilhan, Tlaib, Ayanna Pressley) for rebuke.

    Trump poured fuel on the fire by sticking up for Pelosi:

    https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1149766008984367104

    So I think the House Democrats' tweet is a botched clap-back (note the emojis) attempt by the Pelosi Democrats. They're trying out-maneuver the new AOC POC squad with the very same identity politics and woke mannerisms that make the Future Face of the Party so popular, but not many are fooled.

    White women Democrat voters see this all as a distraction from their pious denunciations of the fences being used to contain some guys they'd never, ever want to meet in a dark alley at night:

    https://twitter.com/AccountistLisa/status/1149828606266241024

    Trump poured fuel on the fire by sticking up for Pelosi

    ahahahhahhah Trump at his finest! Helping out San Fran Nan in her time of need.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/status/1150408693021908992

    What's the 4D chess here?
  67. @Anon

    I never heard of any of these people before today
     
    Um, you haven't? This video came out what, 4 months ago, and has had over 2.5 million views?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5iv6sECGU

    Cliff Notes for Clueless Boomers (CB's): Saikat Chakrabarti is actually more influential than AOC. She is just the public face. Chakrabarti's group, the Justice Democrats, are hardcore Marxists whose sole intention is to undermine the US government and foment a communist revolution. AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and one more were elected because they responded to a casting call from the Justice Democrats. Prior to that, AOC had no interest in politics. She is an actor. That's why she looks like a complete fool when she goes away from her scripted talking points.

    Chakrabarti and AOC were also involved in a huge campaign funds embezzlement scandal a few months ago. God I can't do all the work for you guys!!

    Chakrabarti’s group, the Justice Democrats, are hardcore Marxists whose sole intention is to undermine the US government and foment a communist revolution.

    hardcore nepotists whose sole intention is to grab what they can for themselves and their relatives via bioleninism (i.e. gaining allies from the “oppressed” by pretending to care about them).

    south Asian immigration is going to be a perfect test-case of whether Jewish success is solely the result of IQ and not at least partially the result of shamelessness and nepotism cos they’re in the process of being out-competed in the latter two.

  68. And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis?

    i’m guessing it has its root in girl’s skipping rope songs – somehow.

    like here if you imagine them clapping instead of hitting the sticks.

  69. @Anonymous
    Also, note that "keep her name out of your mouth" is lifted from the recent Ayanna Pressley's "Distraction Becky" tweet, but is effectively being used against her wing.

    It's completely synthetic.

    Oh yeah. I was wondering whereI just saw that. I think that phrase is a thing, too. I for one hail our new emoji-wielding, rap-argot-slinging mouth censors.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    It is indeed hip-hop argot, but it's pathetic for this bunch of preening Poindexters from test-preparation centres and fancy colleges who literally areThe Man (<i.e., the government) to caper and front as if they are street by using this kind of diction. It's as phony and pathetic as Obama's aw-shucks use of the word "folks" every two minutes, his fist-bumping, and so on.

    None of these clowns would get any respect on the streets of College Park. At best, if they spoke like this at a rib joint or liquor store there (or whatever comparable neighbourhood you may mention elsewhere), they'd be greeted with eyerolls and called "corny." At best.

    I'd actually rather genuine rappers from the streets – even convicted but reformed felons like T.I. – who genuinely care about their communities be in the legislature. They'd enact a lot of the same "down with whitey" bullshit, but they'd pass on pandering to homos, Hebrews, and aliens, and they'd be a lot more authentic and direct – and therefore less cloying. They'd also probably end the Forever Wars in western Asia.
  70. White flight on a continental level

    https://missoulian.com/news/local/missoula-s-home-prices-soar-to-new-record-high-of/article_49a8cc41-f8ec-54ff-ade0-099276f3bdba.html

    “John Brauer, a past president of the Missoula Organization of Realtors, said out-of-state buyers with money are definitely helping to push up prices.”

    Missoula is 92% white. Jobs will follow the internal refugees as European Americans rebuild their civilization away from the coastal cities.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    Fucking-a. I’ve been plotting to move back to the region for years but at this rate it’ll be unaffordable. I’ll be damned if I spend the rest of my life in the dmv.
    , @Bill
    Yes, it's an under-discussed phenomenon. White flight / ethnic cleansing is now happening at the State level.
  71. Going be be? This sordid farce has been the reality of things for decades. Maybe conservatives will finally have their thick skulls ripped out of the sand?

  72. @Anonymous
    AOC effectively called Pelosi a racist by accusing of her singling out women of color (AOC, Ilhan, Tlaib, Ayanna Pressley) for rebuke.

    Trump poured fuel on the fire by sticking up for Pelosi:

    https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1149766008984367104

    So I think the House Democrats' tweet is a botched clap-back (note the emojis) attempt by the Pelosi Democrats. They're trying out-maneuver the new AOC POC squad with the very same identity politics and woke mannerisms that make the Future Face of the Party so popular, but not many are fooled.

    White women Democrat voters see this all as a distraction from their pious denunciations of the fences being used to contain some guys they'd never, ever want to meet in a dark alley at night:

    https://twitter.com/AccountistLisa/status/1149828606266241024

    I don’t get it. Wait, were concentration camps filled with obese, uppity, Guateraguan men? I seem to remember from all the films and images I have seen a bunch of docile, emaciated Hebrews and Slavs of all ages and both sexes. And from the conversations I had as a child with people who escaped such places, if they’d behaved like the Guateraguans here depicted, they would not have behaved that way for long, for one of two reasons.

    Still and all, she may be on to something: perhaps it would not be a bad idea to make our facilities for detention more like the Germans’ in those days. If nothing else, think of the savings on food! We don’t even have to leave the detainees emaciated; we can just throttle back until they aren’t chubby – which would be a benefit to their health, to boot!

    • Replies: @bomag
    LOL

    perhaps it would not be a bad idea to make our facilities for detention more like the [Nazis'] in those days
     
    That's the thing about all politics in this country today: anything the Left disagrees with gets labeled Nazism. Might be time for a movement to try some political judo and announce that they are proudly Nazis, but the good kind, who will fix the economy and get the trains to run on time.
  73. @Lot
    “And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis? Is that some Black Woman of Color thing like snapping your fingers while making the shape of a Z was back during In Living Color era?”

    Correct.

    Didn’t you ever see those campus SJW mobbing videos on you tube? When a SJW speaks, especially a WOC, they all snap their fingers repeatedly?

    The clapping thing evolved from that as not everyone has the dexterity to snap their fingers.

    bored identity strongly believes that brown hands clapping has something to do with with celebrating white devil’s propensity for indoor plumming accomodations.

  74. @hhsiii
    Oh yeah. I was wondering whereI just saw that. I think that phrase is a thing, too. I for one hail our new emoji-wielding, rap-argot-slinging mouth censors.

    It is indeed hip-hop argot, but it’s pathetic for this bunch of preening Poindexters from test-preparation centres and fancy colleges who literally areThe Man (<i.e., the government) to caper and front as if they are street by using this kind of diction. It’s as phony and pathetic as Obama’s aw-shucks use of the word “folks” every two minutes, his fist-bumping, and so on.

    None of these clowns would get any respect on the streets of College Park. At best, if they spoke like this at a rib joint or liquor store there (or whatever comparable neighbourhood you may mention elsewhere), they’d be greeted with eyerolls and called “corny.” At best.

    I’d actually rather genuine rappers from the streets – even convicted but reformed felons like T.I. – who genuinely care about their communities be in the legislature. They’d enact a lot of the same “down with whitey” bullshit, but they’d pass on pandering to homos, Hebrews, and aliens, and they’d be a lot more authentic and direct – and therefore less cloying. They’d also probably end the Forever Wars in western Asia.

  75. @Tiny Duck
    Read the comments

    They are talking about republicans evil treatment of migrants (undocumented Americans) in the concentration camps

    All the People in the comments agree that white males are the scourge of the earth

    Steve’s already properly identified them as Pre-American-Americans.

    Keep up, old man.

  76. @Mr McKenna
    Lesbian special-ed teacher who abused female student walks; promises she'll keep doing it.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7242331/Teacher-affair-student-avoids-jail-judge-says-isnt-sexual-predator.html

    Another female teacher sentenced to 20 years for relations with male student.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7242265/Ex-Arizona-teacher-28-sex-13-year-old-boy-sentenced-20-years-prison.html

    Why are white girls so promiscuous?

    Why do they find Boys of Color so irresistible?

    • Replies: @L Woods
    Because woman’s soul lays somewhere between the gutter and hell. Satisfied?
  77. @Anon

    I never heard of any of these people before today
     
    Um, you haven't? This video came out what, 4 months ago, and has had over 2.5 million views?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5iv6sECGU

    Cliff Notes for Clueless Boomers (CB's): Saikat Chakrabarti is actually more influential than AOC. She is just the public face. Chakrabarti's group, the Justice Democrats, are hardcore Marxists whose sole intention is to undermine the US government and foment a communist revolution. AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and one more were elected because they responded to a casting call from the Justice Democrats. Prior to that, AOC had no interest in politics. She is an actor. That's why she looks like a complete fool when she goes away from her scripted talking points.

    Chakrabarti and AOC were also involved in a huge campaign funds embezzlement scandal a few months ago. God I can't do all the work for you guys!!

    So, Occasionl-Kotex is the political version of Elizabeth Holmes, with a Hindoo Svengali controlling and schtupping her?

    That actually makes a lot of sense.

  78. OT – massive kudos to David Vance on twitter. Painful for a Fenian to admit that the most incisive commentator is an Ulster Scots Prod Loyalist, but the man is a genius.

    I can’t do this on twitter as they seem to have ‘shadow banned’ me. My account was initially full of interaction. But now no new followers, no responses, none reading my tweets.

    Tptb are total pozzed cultmarxistss who spend all day abusing normal White Men. scum!!!

    give Vance a follow

  79. Does anyone else get this feeling of like a temporary wave of nausea whenever they read these stupid memetic slang phrases that pollute left wing twitter? (“Keep X out of your mouth,” “spilling tea,” “new X who dis,” etc.)

  80. @Anon

    I never heard of any of these people before today
     
    Um, you haven't? This video came out what, 4 months ago, and has had over 2.5 million views?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5iv6sECGU

    Cliff Notes for Clueless Boomers (CB's): Saikat Chakrabarti is actually more influential than AOC. She is just the public face. Chakrabarti's group, the Justice Democrats, are hardcore Marxists whose sole intention is to undermine the US government and foment a communist revolution. AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and one more were elected because they responded to a casting call from the Justice Democrats. Prior to that, AOC had no interest in politics. She is an actor. That's why she looks like a complete fool when she goes away from her scripted talking points.

    Chakrabarti and AOC were also involved in a huge campaign funds embezzlement scandal a few months ago. God I can't do all the work for you guys!!

    The question is: what is Chakrbariauta’s true goal? Why would a tech billionaire want to start a communist revolution? He’s obviously not stupid.

    I suspect this has more to do with his hatred of whites – he just wants to crash the system and make whites suffer; then he will bring millions of Indians in to take over the USA. Something like that. His group is the most anti white, anti America I’ve ever seen.

  81. @Lot
    AOC hates Hakeem Jeffries and is trying to get him primaryed.

    While he had a Black Power muslim name, and is the nephew of “Ice People/Sun People” Professor Leonard Jeffries, Hakeem is actually a corporate lawyer and about as conservative as a congressman as a minority majority Brooklyn district would ever elect.

    I think a lot of this is personal against AOC. It is safe to say a clear majority of Dem House members are ready for her time in Congress to end. The problem for them is, there is no clear way to bring that about. Even if New York loses more seats after 2020 redistricting, there is no obvious way to force her into a primary she would be likely to lose.

  82. Sharice Davids is apparently a big fan of Brenton Tarrant and Robert Bowers.

    https://nativenewsonline.net/currents/old-photo-of-rep-davids-wearing-all-my-heroes-killed-colonizers-t-shirt-riles-gop-congressional-committee/

    I can’t believe that clap thing is on the official Twitter account of the House Dem caucus. The US is beyond screwed.

    • Replies: @Altai
    In fairness they're trying to adapt to the medium. You see the same from companies on Twitter. They don't post like an organisation, they post like an individual. It's the best way to get eyeballs on what you're posting. Now they've tailored the message to permeate through the heavy Twitter user networks.

    It's become a more popular approach that many entities are taking on Twitter to drive 'engagement'. It all seems to have started with the Wendy's Twitter account.
  83. That “keep my/her/his name out your mouth” is actually a threat to physical violence. It’s essentially a “say that shit again and see what happens” kind of comment. Someone says that to you, the proper response is: “and what if I do?” followed by saying the name again.

    It is clear bullying and a violation of so called “twitter rules”.

  84. @Mr McKenna
    Lesbian special-ed teacher who abused female student walks; promises she'll keep doing it.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7242331/Teacher-affair-student-avoids-jail-judge-says-isnt-sexual-predator.html

    Another female teacher sentenced to 20 years for relations with male student.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7242265/Ex-Arizona-teacher-28-sex-13-year-old-boy-sentenced-20-years-prison.html

    You’re a strong competitor for the Most Dishonest Unz.com Commenter award, and that’s really saying something

    • Troll: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Bill
    Several people don't like that comment. What's dishonest about it? The 13 yo vs 17 yo thing?
  85. @Tiny Duck
    Read the comments

    They are talking about republicans evil treatment of migrants (undocumented Americans) in the concentration camps

    All the People in the comments agree that white males are the scourge of the earth

    Lame! Nothing about the big brown Johnson’s that white women crave, nothing about how white people are appropriating colored cultural norms. You’re phoning it in. Better duck or GTFO.

  86. @Dave Pinsen
    All the famous Indian nationalists wanted the British out of India, but only Bose, AFAIK, allied himself with Hitler, and, later, Tojo. Morality aside, this was dumb for two reasons. Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British. And second, Bose stuck with the Axis when it was obvious they were losing the war.

    What? The UK was on the winning side but was forced to give up India VERY soon after the war. I’m not sure why you think a victorious Axis would definitely or even likely have been able to rule India, assuming that anyone had even wanted to.

    As for sticking with a clearly losing Axis, the goal was to weaken the UK not simply to ally with the winners. India was not a war bride. And obviously this was a good strategy for the Indian independence movement.

  87. Steve Sailer saw the obvious coalitional crack-up conundrum of the Clinton Democrat Party early on.

    Sailer had something to say about a NY Times article from 2015 which was entitled “The Great Democratic Crack-Up of 2016.”

    The NY Times story was about the internecine battle among the leaders of the Maryland Democrat Party to pick a successor to Barbara Mikulski. A Black lady Democrat was up against a White Dutch boy name Van Hollen. The ruling class of Maryland backed the Dutch boy over the Black lady — the Dutch boy won.

    I have always been impressed by the prudence of the Dutch to graciously give way to the English in colonial America. I am also impressed with the magnanimity shown by the English and the British Empire to the Dutch and the Swedes and the French and the Spaniards and others who so sweetly allowed the English to run things — for the benefit of all, of course! All I am saying is give the English a chance!

    Steve Sailer said this in 2015:

    Also, Chris Van Hollen, who represents rich Montgomery County in Congress, happens to be just about the whitest man in America, Deep State Division. Van Hollen’s father was an aide to Secretary of State Dean Acheson and then American ambassador to Sri Lanka. His mother was the top Afghan analyst for the State Department. Van Hollen’s like the Matt Damon character in The Good Shepherd who gets questioned by mobster Joe Pesci over what his Old American people own: “The United States of America. The rest of you are just visiting.”

    My guess would be that the Democrats benefit from still having as a public face of the party some number of this kind of old-fashioned hereditary princeling with direct family ties to the Truman Administration’s waging of the Cold War. Just as the Republicans celebrate any GOP politician they can find who is from somewhat outside the Core (e.g., Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio, Ben Carson, Mr. Columba Bush, etc.), logic suggests the Democrats should conversely find it tactically prudent to look favorably upon a good-looking representative like Van Hollen of the East Coast’s ancient Dutch/WASP elite that produced the Roosevelts.

    But symmetrical logic is distasteful to Democrats. Moral asymmetry is their engine. Holding together the Democrats’ Coalition of the Fringes by demonizing Privileged Straight White Males like Van Hollen is too much fun and to necessary to turn off just for tactical reasons.

    As I’ve been saying, a major political question is whether Asians and Latinos will view the GOP more as the resented White Party or the Democrats more as the worrisome Black Party?

    Tweet from 2015:

  88. OT – In regards to immigration, I found this 7 year old article which had been used by opponents of a hard border to argue that immigration from Mexico was essentially over so we no longer needed a hard barrier.

    Net Migration from Mexico Falls to Zero—and Perhaps Less

    This article, from the Pew Research Center, was spread throughout the MSM at the time and was continually used by trolls on blogs like this and elsewhere to argue against building a wall.

    Now we see what is happening today.

    Though the headline of the article is what was quoted and spread around, the facts buried in the text are eye opening. Mexico has essentially sent us in 40 years almost as many people as the combined total of Italians and Germans ever to come to the USA in 400 years! And they estimate that half of that Mexican total came illegally.

    The U.S. today has more immigrants from Mexico alone—12.0 million—than any other country in the world has from all countries of the world.

    • Replies: @Lot
    I think the net-zero from Mexico is still the case around California at least.

    I never see FOB looking Mexicans like I did in 2006-9.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mexicans who purchased houses and held on to them are now sitting on $1 million dollar houses with $500,000 of equity and may be the newest wave of ex-Californians to cash out and head to the interior.
    , @syonredux

    OT – In regards to immigration, I found this 7 year old article which had been used by opponents of a hard border to argue that immigration from Mexico was essentially over so we no longer needed a hard barrier.
     
    Which still leaves us with millions of Hondurans, El Salvadorans, Guatemalans, ......Not to mention how Black Africans are now starting to use the Southern border as their route of entry.....
    , @Alden
    And Germans are our largest ethnic grouo
  89. Yeah the Indian guy was activated by Bernie and he said he dropped his software career to go Bernie.

    His software career is actually kind of impressive.

    It probably explains his faux pas here. A little autistic. But, being a tech guy his logic probably is actually correct and impeccable.

    It is more obvious that he is the brains behind AOC. Which is fine. It takes a certain skill to be the public face and not all have it.

  90. A war is needed to reassert order.

  91. @Dave Pinsen
    All the famous Indian nationalists wanted the British out of India, but only Bose, AFAIK, allied himself with Hitler, and, later, Tojo. Morality aside, this was dumb for two reasons. Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British. And second, Bose stuck with the Axis when it was obvious they were losing the war.

    Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British.

    That is a big assumption. Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?

    Either Germany or Japan would have been worn out even if they had won the war, and would not have been in a position to subdue such a large nation like India that was not close to their borders. Logistics was not the strong point of Germany or Japan like it was with the US.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    That is a big assumption. Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?
     
    Would they have been able to stop them? Without huge loss of life?

    Either Germany or Japan would have been worn out even if they had won the war, and would not have been in a position to subdue such a large nation like India that was not close to their borders.
     
    Don't have to be successful in order to cause suffering. The Japanese invasion of China ultimately failed, but it still caused millions of deaths.....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War
    , @L Woods
    Likely not direct rule, but something more akin to Japan’s relationship with Thailand.
    , @Anon
    Nonsense. Gandhi’s strategy could only have worked against “fair play” and Christian types like the Brits. Against Adolf it would be like that priest who gets vaporized in the first War of the Worlds. Judge that how you will.
    , @Lot
    The British were are lot better at imperialism than Germany or Japan, allowing them to keep India for a long time without much force. “Axis wins the war” already implies Japanese occupation of China, Korea, parts of Siberia, Philippines and Indochina. Add India to this?

    France, Spain and Holland are the only other nations to show even close to that skill level at non-European Imperialism.
    , @Dave Pinsen

    Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?
     
    The Germans and Japanese would have been far more brutal in suppressing them. In the case of the Germans, Hitler told Lord Halifax in 1937 how he'd handle India:

    Shoot Gandhi! If that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress, and if that does not suffice, shoot 200 and so on until order is established.
     
    , @dfordoom

    Either Germany or Japan would have been worn out even if they had won the war, and would not have been in a position to subdue such a large nation like India that was not close to their borders.
     
    I'm sure they would have been quite content with an independent India with a government prepared to be a reasonably compliant ally. Sort of a puppet state. You know, the way postwar Britain was theoretically independent but in practice a U.S. puppet state.
  92. @Anon

    I never heard of any of these people before today
     
    Um, you haven't? This video came out what, 4 months ago, and has had over 2.5 million views?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5iv6sECGU

    Cliff Notes for Clueless Boomers (CB's): Saikat Chakrabarti is actually more influential than AOC. She is just the public face. Chakrabarti's group, the Justice Democrats, are hardcore Marxists whose sole intention is to undermine the US government and foment a communist revolution. AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and one more were elected because they responded to a casting call from the Justice Democrats. Prior to that, AOC had no interest in politics. She is an actor. That's why she looks like a complete fool when she goes away from her scripted talking points.

    Chakrabarti and AOC were also involved in a huge campaign funds embezzlement scandal a few months ago. God I can't do all the work for you guys!!

    God I can’t do all the work for you guys!!

    There was a scene in H. Harrison’s _Bil, the Galactic Hero_, that fits the audience reaction. After being drugged into signing up for the Imperial forces, Bil (formerly Bill, but two “l”s are for officers only) is attending a mandatory lecture on the Imperial code for criminal justice. This is a paraphrase:

    The recruits weren’t interested. They knew they had signed away every human right when they enlisted, and weren’t interested in the details.”

    But the news is important for some, including some here. The entire Federal government is becoming highly dysfunctional.

    “We tax you so that we can import foreigners and internal migrants who are physical threats to you and your relatives (including children), we make it almost impossible to have a family unless you are working for us or with us, and, to top it off, we’re picking a fight with several nuclear armed countries. We also call you names and make faces at you (e.g. AOC, Maddow).”

    Since government’s main publicly announced function now is to destroy (Whiteness, pollution, haters, etc), it’s hard to fail, and and any clown can participate, the more clownish the better.

    It’s important that people know just how far downhill things have gone; Trump’s election shows that. Unlike H. Harrison’s book, the present system is not statically stable. Western civilization depends upon a balancing act that requires high competence: look at California, which is apparently about to lose its electrical grid through looting it it even of maintenance funds.

    The present Western system is, in large part, a response to the financial non-viability of US cities after c.a. AD 1960. Western society has largely been an urban phenomenon. When Western cities lost light manufacturing due to containerization of cargo, the Interstates, and world wide cheap high bandwidth electronic communications (and destruction of capital during WW I and II), they started supporting themselves through tax monies, through politics. This was made possible by the Third World “population explosion” and the “birth dearth” among European descended Western populations.

    Should urban support through tax monies become unworkable (say through attempts to “manipulate the currency”, through military failure removes US protection from the sea lanes, through simple tax revolts, through a natural disaster (CA quakes, New Orleans flooding, widespread crop failures), through, in short, the next real national emergency, the current system would transform itself. We saw an example of that in the transformation of Louisiana politics after New Orleans flooded from Katrina and the voters moved out of New Orleans.

    The more corrupt the system, the more likely such a transformation will occur. So: Thanks for the news. Somebody has to do it (“‘Somebody, somebody has to, you see.’So she picked out two somebodies: Sally and me.”).

    Counterinsugency

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @Gabe Ruth
    You've written several comments in this vein, regarding our current practice of looting the country to prop up urban cities. Any blog or book recommendations? Sounds a little like Kunstler, who I haven't read in a while but who I found often convincing, sometimes incisive.
  93. Steve Sailer, in a 2015 blog post entitled “Baltimore Chaos: The Obama Coalition of the Fringes in Action,” wrote that all is not well in the Democrat Party coalition.

    Steve Sailer said this in 2015 about the Obama Democrat Party:

    The Democrats’ coalition isn’t quite the seamless demographic juggernaut that it’s widely assumed to be. Without the nonstop climate of hate for Straight White Men to hold the Dems together, it’s basically The Black Party.

    But what could possibly go wrong?

    Oh, yeah, Hobbesian war of all against all.

    Tweet from 2015:

  94. Less concerned with the details than with the fact that this conjures the old voices of the nuns and priests during my two unfortunate years in Catholic school: “You don’t have to be a sinner to enable sin.” Etc. Etc.

    These people take it upon themselves to be the referees of everyone else’s morality — and ascribe all sorts of motives to otherwise benign acts. Then and now, I say: MYOB!!

  95. Anon[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @PiltdownMan
    Agreed about Bose in Germany in 1943, India and the British. I'm not faulting Bose.

    But a political operative, above all, should be thinking about optics. And in these times, more than ever before, effective political attacks are fashioned out of the merest wisps of historical information.

    That photograph of Bose in 1943 is pure political dynamite in America in 2019. One tweet is all it would take to hurt the Saikat guy. He should have understood that. I guess ethnic pride and what he thought would be an obscure and hip reference is what made him wear the t-shirt. That tells me that he's not that smart a politico.

    So yeah, Mr. Sailer is right. Circular firing squad.

    Bose is a national hero in India, like various other figures in various parts of Europe (you’re not going to find much Mannerheim-hatred among Finns, for instance). That”POC” don’t really care much about the political obsessions of Jews, and the havoc that fact sometimes causes in leftist ranks, are pretty common topics on here.

    Indian sari:

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    In a similar vein, when in Ulaan Bator, one does not talk smack about Genghis. He is regarded, unapologetically, as a national hero. Genghis Khan is one of my favorite people ever.
  96. @The Wild Geese Howard
    Uh, read the text messages in the story on the second case.

    Van Halen had a hit song called, "Hot for Teacher," for a reason.

    After viewing several internet pictures of Brittany Zamora, I had a brief conference with my 13-year-old self. Though I advised, from long experience with women, that she probably has a bit of the crazy in her eyes, 13-year-old Lance decided, given the opportunity, there’s no way he could pass up hittin’ that, and would not consider Ms. Zamora to have committed any sort of crime against him. While I have legitimate reservations about the wisdom of his decision making, I can certainly understand his point of view.

    • LOL: jim jones
  97. @Lot
    AOC hates Hakeem Jeffries and is trying to get him primaryed.

    While he had a Black Power muslim name, and is the nephew of “Ice People/Sun People” Professor Leonard Jeffries, Hakeem is actually a corporate lawyer and about as conservative as a congressman as a minority majority Brooklyn district would ever elect.

    Don’t know much about Jeffries- but speaking of black power Muslims……I’ve noticed a lot of black power Muslims and Hoteps (tons of the latter around here, they larp as both Ancient Egyptians AND Muslims) have completely bizarre beliefs but are actually relatively pleasant, conservative people who usually have intact middle/lower middle class families.

    • Replies: @E e
    Bizarre beliefs but pleasant personally? Sounds kind of like Mormons...
  98. Suddenly, out of nowhere, a new competitor!
    “I RTed this in my personal capacity as a gay man who was bullied and beaten in high school.”

    • Replies: @guest
    In my personal capacity? Usually that phrase indicates official or professional capacity, but why is the word "personal" in there? It's kinda confusing.
  99. This is an official Twitter account of the “House Democrats”?! Who the hell do they have managing this thing?!

  100. @Anonymousse
    Here’s a dramatic imagining of Congressional debate circa 2119

    https://youtu.be/94RGsTvipXs

    J. Fred Muggs

  101. @Steve Sailer
    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?

    I'm lost.

    Steve, your expectation that things “make sense” is a sign of HuhWite Priveludge.

  102. @eah
    Some 'circular firing squad' aspects to this:

    Seattle City Council candidate wants to solve homelessness with cargo containers, work

    Which turned out to be surprisingly interesting -- take the time to listen to her interview -- note her FB page, especially the excerpted Jul 9 post -- follow the links to see the ugly extent of Seattle's homeless problem.

    Here proposal is couched in SJW language about helping the homeless with “programs”. But when you cut through the bullshit she is saying we should round up vagrants and lock them up on a county work farm.
    Sounds like a good idea to me.

    • Replies: @eah
    Her proposal is couched in SJW language about helping the homeless with “programs”.

    Well, yes -- that's the 'circular firing squad' part: she is herself a bit of an SJW, but realistic about how bad the situation is and that something must be done -- as she says in an interview (also at the link):

    “I don’t think the district is that safe. I don’t think the city of Seattle is very safe.”

    Her suggestion is sensible and would get them off the streets and out of the parks, which is the goal -- but she was attacked by the same radical SJW nutjobs who've failed to address the problem for years.

    Sounds like a good idea to me.

    Right -- why do decent people have to put up with this shit? -- no one should be allowed to camp on the street or in any public space -- when you look into it, the problem in Seattle is just as bad as in eg SF or LA.
  103. @Dave Pinsen
    Bose did more than meet with Hitler, though Gandhi himself was naive about Hitler. If we continue to import Indian elites, we’re going to have to adjust to India’s slightly different moral alignment though.

    For example, consider my Twitter correspondent here.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1149947526621147137?s=21

    The British Raj was the best thing that ever happened to India. They should be sending reparations to the UK for all the infrastructure and advancements the British gave the country — as well as making the nation of India possible in the first place.

    • Agree: Bubba, PV van der Byl
    • Replies: @Flip
    The British couldn't have held India for even a day if the Indians didn't think that the benefits outweighed the cost.
    , @Anon
    Britain allowed 3 million to die in the Bengal famine, while diverting Indian grain to British soldiers. Winston Churchill mocked the starving Indians.
    , @Anonymous
    India is what the U.S. would look like today if the Revolution had failed, and the U.S. is what India would look like today if the British had been successfully ejected in 1857.
  104. @Lot
    AOC hates Hakeem Jeffries and is trying to get him primaryed.

    While he had a Black Power muslim name, and is the nephew of “Ice People/Sun People” Professor Leonard Jeffries, Hakeem is actually a corporate lawyer and about as conservative as a congressman as a minority majority Brooklyn district would ever elect.

    Hakeem is Chuck Schumer’s boy. And guess what Chuckie? They’re coming for you too, boychik.

    Maybe 13 or 14 years ago I had a crew of union guys in a sign war with Hakeem, who was running against Roger Green. AOC would have loved Roger Green. He was the first Mohammedan in the NY State Assemby as well as chair of the black/Puerto Rican Raucous, er, Caucus. He was big on Mama Africa stuff, which is no longer in fashion, to put it mildly.

    The union guys would pull down Hakeem’s signs that ringed Grand Army Plaza, then Hakeem would come back half an hour later and pull down Roger’s signs and replace his own. Not Hakeem’s campaign workers; Hakeem himself. I wish I had a smart phone back then. This went on all night (primary eve). Fun times.

    Unfortunately(or fortunately), like so many Hood Heelers, Roger got busted for a pitiful three grand worth of bogus travel reimbursements and pled guilty to extremely petty larceny. Hakeem took his seat.

    • Replies: @Bugg
    Prospect Park Chuck; open secret in Brooklyn NYPD units Schumer was very fond of getting young black girls of lesser moral fiber who might perform certain acts his ugly ass wife would not in exchange for US currency. He was so caught numerous times in Prospect Park doing so as recently as the early 2000s. But no NYPD street cop wanted to bother with such an arrest. It's a misdemeanor, and even if you catch the guy with his pants off, hard to prove. A city commissioner under Mayor Dinkins was so arrested and eventually after much consternation was acquitted.
    , @Lot
    “then Hakeem would come back half an hour later and pull down Roger’s signs and replace his own. Not Hakeem’s campaign workers; Hakeem himself.”

    He’s going places with that hands-on can do attitude!
  105. @Steve Sailer
    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?

    I'm lost.

    I think it’s like when you scold a dog. Bad dog! Don’t 👏🏾Jump 👏🏾On 👏🏾The 👏🏾Kitchen 👏🏾Counter.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    This is what it is. They're a cult. Always humiliate when presenting new information.
  106. @PennTothal

    And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis?
     
    It's known as "clapping back"

    If you look at Yahoo , Google, or Apple news feeds on any iPhone, you will see dozens of news headlines tha take the general form of the following:

    " X claps back at Y for Z"

    Where X is someone favored by the SJW-left (Megan Rapinoe, Beyonce, etc.)
    Y is someone the group John Derbyshire would call "badwhites" (Mike Pence, Tucker Carlson., etc.)
    Z is usually some innocuous statement of common sense made by Y that offends the hyperacute sensibilities of the SJW's

    You can construct your own headlines mad-lib style using this formula.

    "Megan Rapinoe claps back at Mike Pence for his comments about loving his biological children."

    Interestingly, with enough effort and pandering, a Y can become an X. (The clappee can become the clapper.) Taylor Swift would be a good example of this conversion phenomenon.

    So it’s a SJW version of the clickbait “slams” (which means rebukes or criticizes).

    Like a snappy comeback?

    • Replies: @PennTothal
    Yes
  107. Anti-ICE protesters pull down American flag, raise Mexico flag, vandalize ‘Blue Lives Matter’ flag

    Authorities in Colorado restored an American flag to its place Friday evening after protesters demonstrating outside a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facility pulled down the star-spangled banner and flew the flag of Mexico in its place.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-protestors-rip-down-american-flag-at-ice-facility-raise-mexico-flag-vandalize-blue-lives-matter-flag

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    This is worse than Invasion USA.

    Where is Chuck Norris dual-wielding his MAC-10s when you need him?
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    "Anti-ICE protesters pull down American flag, raise Mexico flag, vandalize 'Blue Lives Matter flag"

    Then they went back home to their college debt.
  108. @istevefan

    Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British.
     
    That is a big assumption. Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?

    Either Germany or Japan would have been worn out even if they had won the war, and would not have been in a position to subdue such a large nation like India that was not close to their borders. Logistics was not the strong point of Germany or Japan like it was with the US.

    That is a big assumption. Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?

    Would they have been able to stop them? Without huge loss of life?

    Either Germany or Japan would have been worn out even if they had won the war, and would not have been in a position to subdue such a large nation like India that was not close to their borders.

    Don’t have to be successful in order to cause suffering. The Japanese invasion of China ultimately failed, but it still caused millions of deaths…..

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War

  109. “Her name is Congresswoman Davids”

    And his name is Seth Rich.

    • Replies: @Neuday
    And the media is dutifully keeping his name out of their collective mouths.
  110. Hopefully the wealthy and incredibly disingenous subcon parasites playing sjw are the first to get the wall in this civil war

  111. @istevefan

    Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British.
     
    That is a big assumption. Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?

    Either Germany or Japan would have been worn out even if they had won the war, and would not have been in a position to subdue such a large nation like India that was not close to their borders. Logistics was not the strong point of Germany or Japan like it was with the US.

    Likely not direct rule, but something more akin to Japan’s relationship with Thailand.

  112. Keep huh name out cha mouf! mmmm hmmmm….

  113. @Anonymous
    Simple: Kansas was settled by insane abolitionists. It's Cuck Central.

    People in Kansas don't like controversy, don't like to put up a fight, avoid conflict.
    That's why they hated Phelps and his family. He was stirring up shit. Everyone knew that Gage Park was a major cruising area and the homos were glory-holing it up in the bathrooms but doing anything about it wasn't to be done. That's what originally set Phelps off.

    Although there are plenty of fundies of various stripes, there are more leftists than you'd think. Shawnee County/ Topeka is pretty left wing as it's loaded with government workers , and Wyandotte still has a fair amount of old line union Democrats mixed in with heavy Mexican presence, legal and otherwise.

    The fundies tend toward the Christian Zionist flavor, too.

    Yeah what kind of madmen would object to being displaced by a tiny minority of planters and their hordes of negroes?

    • Replies: @Bill
    You're saying Kansas Abolitionism was like contemporary NIMBY Envirolunacy? It's crypto-segregationist? That's an awesome thought, whether true or not.
  114. Jeffries is my Congressman.

    I did not vote for him.

    He is the nephew of ghetto anthropologist/lunatic Leonard Jeffries. The crazy uncle was fond of theories about ice people’s inferiority to sun people due to melanin or some such nonsense.

    A schoolmate of my son wanted an appointment to West Point. So you had a Catholic school-attending Howard Beach Italian lad basically being an office coffee boy for a lunatic leftist black inner city Congressman. As per the kid’s dad, could have been a culture shock sitcom. But to the kid’s credit he kept his eyes on the prize and is starting his senior year at West Point.

  115. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Hakeem is Chuck Schumer's boy. And guess what Chuckie? They're coming for you too, boychik.

    Maybe 13 or 14 years ago I had a crew of union guys in a sign war with Hakeem, who was running against Roger Green. AOC would have loved Roger Green. He was the first Mohammedan in the NY State Assemby as well as chair of the black/Puerto Rican Raucous, er, Caucus. He was big on Mama Africa stuff, which is no longer in fashion, to put it mildly.

    The union guys would pull down Hakeem's signs that ringed Grand Army Plaza, then Hakeem would come back half an hour later and pull down Roger's signs and replace his own. Not Hakeem's campaign workers; Hakeem himself. I wish I had a smart phone back then. This went on all night (primary eve). Fun times.

    Unfortunately(or fortunately), like so many Hood Heelers, Roger got busted for a pitiful three grand worth of bogus travel reimbursements and pled guilty to extremely petty larceny. Hakeem took his seat.

    Prospect Park Chuck; open secret in Brooklyn NYPD units Schumer was very fond of getting young black girls of lesser moral fiber who might perform certain acts his ugly ass wife would not in exchange for US currency. He was so caught numerous times in Prospect Park doing so as recently as the early 2000s. But no NYPD street cop wanted to bother with such an arrest. It’s a misdemeanor, and even if you catch the guy with his pants off, hard to prove. A city commissioner under Mayor Dinkins was so arrested and eventually after much consternation was acquitted.

  116. • Replies: @MEH 0910
    https://www.battleofideas.org.uk/speaker/lisa-graves/

    Lisa Graves is a satirist, visual artist, fine artist and graphic designer. For the past two years she has been co-writer of the infamous ‘Godfrey Elfwick’ character on Twitter, a satirical representation of ‘woke’ politics.
     
    https://twitter.com/godblesstoto?lang=en
  117. @Anonymous
    AOC effectively called Pelosi a racist by accusing of her singling out women of color (AOC, Ilhan, Tlaib, Ayanna Pressley) for rebuke.

    Trump poured fuel on the fire by sticking up for Pelosi:

    https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1149766008984367104

    So I think the House Democrats' tweet is a botched clap-back (note the emojis) attempt by the Pelosi Democrats. They're trying out-maneuver the new AOC POC squad with the very same identity politics and woke mannerisms that make the Future Face of the Party so popular, but not many are fooled.

    White women Democrat voters see this all as a distraction from their pious denunciations of the fences being used to contain some guys they'd never, ever want to meet in a dark alley at night:

    https://twitter.com/AccountistLisa/status/1149828606266241024

    Wow, look at all the women and childre….WAIT A MINUTE!!!

  118. Teddy Cruz Belongs To The Coalition Of The Canadian Cuckservatives

    Teddy Cruz should keep his phucking mouth shut tight like a bastard when it comes to Tennessee or Nathan Bedford Forrest.

    This Canadian pussy boy puke Teddy Cruz is now attacking the memory and sacred honor of General Nathan Bedford Forrest. If Canadian cuck boy Teddy Cruz saw Nathan Bedford Forrest on horseback galloping towards him while waving his sword at Teddy Cruz’s fat face, you can be sure that Teddy Cruz would piss his pants.

    This rancid Republican Party turd Teddy Cruz pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and legalization(amnesty) for illegal alien invaders.

    Teddy Cruz once co-wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal with Paul Ryan that called for giving Obama full trade promotion authority to continue on with the negotiations for Obama’s sovereignty-sapping, job-killing Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal scam.

    I hereby challenge snot-nosed punk Teddy Cruz to a 4 hour debate on Nathan Bedford Forrest and mass legal immigration and illegal immigration and trade deal scams and endless overseas war and American national identity and multiculturalism and any other damn thing that needs saying to this rat puke Teddy Cruz!

    I would rhetorically pound the stuffing out of globalizer coward boy Teddy Cruz in a debate!

    I call on the great people of Texas to immediately recall and replace the treasonous rat politician whore Teddy Cruz.

    • Agree: Hockamaw
    • Replies: @Marcus
    Yes, the great Forrest who failed at everything he attempted except selling slaves before the war :/
    , @guest
    Canadians are like double-Yankees. Tory Yanks.

    I love how Cruz threw the Democratic Convention in there. Still pushin Dems R da Reel Racists!

    Forrest was one of if not the greatest military commander in U.S. history. Joining the KKK was an act of heroism. Later, that organization steeply declined in discipline and purpose.

    Also, he was creator of perhaps the wisest set of inspirational quotes outside the Bible:

    https://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-no-damn-man-kills-me-and-lives-nathan-bedford-forrest-64134.jpg

    https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/3840x2160/1371033-Nathan-Bedford-Forrest-Quote-Attack-in-all-directions.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b7/f5/2e/b7f52e2b25364f35a6e82cc86faa149b--military-history-american-history.jpg
  119. @Anonymous
    Also, note that "keep her name out of your mouth" is lifted from the recent Ayanna Pressley's "Distraction Becky" tweet, but is effectively being used against her wing.

    It's completely synthetic.

    That isn’t an original phrase as coined by Pressley, it is urban dictionary speak that has become popular among ghetto teenagers in the past couple of years. “Keep my name out of your mouth” is usually issued as a challenge right before fighting. The general public does not realize how belligerent and juvenile the phrase actually is. It is not just some cute wokism.

  120. It’s funny how, in some groups, there is s kind of differentiation and creativity that comes up with new products, services, and so forth, which all add up to a great nation, an economic powerhouse comprised of tough independent thinkers and doers.

    And then there’s the kind that seeks to grind everyone down to the lowest level possible, bringing forth one useless variation on human behavior after another, a nation of useless victims.

    A circular firing squad of jerks. The democrats finally unmask themselves.

  121. @istevefan

    Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British.
     
    That is a big assumption. Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?

    Either Germany or Japan would have been worn out even if they had won the war, and would not have been in a position to subdue such a large nation like India that was not close to their borders. Logistics was not the strong point of Germany or Japan like it was with the US.

    Nonsense. Gandhi’s strategy could only have worked against “fair play” and Christian types like the Brits. Against Adolf it would be like that priest who gets vaporized in the first War of the Worlds. Judge that how you will.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    Yes I believe that Hitler's unsolicited advice to the British was to shot Gandhi and all the Congress ringleaders and go from there if there was continued resistance
    , @Dr Van Nostrand
    German colonial record in places like Togoland or whatever is far less cruel than the British.
  122. @Lot
    It would still be dumb to care. Sometimes circumstances pushed people into a Hitler alliance when they’d probably have preferred other allies instead. This was certainly the case for the Finns and Romanians in WWII.

    Wanting the British out of India was the healthy thing for Indians in 1943 and only the Axis were willing to help.

    Having to choose between Stalin and Hitler was not a great situation to be in, but there were better and worse ways of going about this. For example the Poles, even their right wing forces, were for the most part not wild about the Germans while the Ukrainians were pretty enthusiastic about joining up with them and working for the SS as camp guards so on. Even if you were eager to get the British out of India, becoming an ally with the odious Nazis and Japanese militarists was not a good idea (especially not in retrospect) and very few other Indian leaders went that far.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Seems like Bose did manage to gain some minor German support without it reflecting badly on Congress, which he used to lead but was forced out of by MG. It didn’t work out, but he was distant enough there wasn’t much actual downside since the plausible deniability was there from the start.

    Bose’s grandson by the way is 3/4 german and some sort of left wing intellectual there.

    https://starsunfolded.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Peter-Arun-Pfaff.jpg
    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    "...while the Ukrainians were pretty enthusiastic about joining up with them..."

    Geez Louise, just imagine being enthusiastic about fighting back against the people who had tried to starve your entire country to death only a few years before! Why, the ingratitude!
  123. Lot says:
    @istevefan

    Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British.
     
    That is a big assumption. Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?

    Either Germany or Japan would have been worn out even if they had won the war, and would not have been in a position to subdue such a large nation like India that was not close to their borders. Logistics was not the strong point of Germany or Japan like it was with the US.

    The British were are lot better at imperialism than Germany or Japan, allowing them to keep India for a long time without much force. “Axis wins the war” already implies Japanese occupation of China, Korea, parts of Siberia, Philippines and Indochina. Add India to this?

    France, Spain and Holland are the only other nations to show even close to that skill level at non-European Imperialism.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Portugal
    , @Expletive Deleted

    The British were are lot better at imperialism than Germany or Japan, allowing them to keep India for a long time without much force.
     
    Due to constant practice on the part of the English, initially within the archipelago. I'd rather tackle angry rice-farmers, no matter how numerous, than native Scots, Irish and Welsh (occasionally in combination) with the added spice of extremely violent Danish and Norse colonists. We learned to ride the tiger fairly early on. Easy does it, only apply the iron fist in the last resort. Use the Law (before which all are equal) instead. A lesson the Prussians, for instance, are apparently incapable of absorbing.

    And anyway, Brit imperialism was latterly a desperate attempt to front-run the blasted French, to all corners of the world including India, the Pacific and North America.
    Probably still is.
  124. @Anon

    I never heard of any of these people before today
     
    Um, you haven't? This video came out what, 4 months ago, and has had over 2.5 million views?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5iv6sECGU

    Cliff Notes for Clueless Boomers (CB's): Saikat Chakrabarti is actually more influential than AOC. She is just the public face. Chakrabarti's group, the Justice Democrats, are hardcore Marxists whose sole intention is to undermine the US government and foment a communist revolution. AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and one more were elected because they responded to a casting call from the Justice Democrats. Prior to that, AOC had no interest in politics. She is an actor. That's why she looks like a complete fool when she goes away from her scripted talking points.

    Chakrabarti and AOC were also involved in a huge campaign funds embezzlement scandal a few months ago. God I can't do all the work for you guys!!

    “Um, you haven’t? This video came out what, 4 months ago, and has had over 2.5 million views?”

    #276, I just became aware of this video/history a few days ago. Kind of surprising. if there’s any credence, that her political path is not more part of the “common knowledge”. Especially given that she’s currently the 3rd or 4th most quoted US political figure?

  125. Chakrabarti is the money conduit for Qatari read Iranian and Soros money to create a hard anti White ruling class in the US.

    Instead of the soft one now. This is the natural and inevitable result of the new hereditary New Class allying itself with foreign weirdo elites.

    Like Chakrabarti. He’s a foreign weirdo.

    Schumer and Pelosi and the rest are toast. The tidal wave of foreign money to get influence over Team America World Police dwarfs even the Clintons Global Initiative.

    What a give away name btw.

    The US will be run by weirdo icky foreigners and screaming angry Women of Color. I know are there any other types of Women of color?

    We have neither the money nor skills nor organization nor numbers of people nor great leaders nor street fighting brutality to stop this. Victory is not even possible.

    Survival is possible and it is our duty to preserve some pitiful small fragment of ourselves as we endure 4 billion third world people moving here and taking everything so that in the vast mass of non Whites some memory of our people survives.

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
    Dude you don't help your cause. Anyway I thought you died.
    , @CCZ
    Pelosi's 2020 primary challenger, Paki born Shahid Buttar “Resistance for Real.”

    https://shahidforchange.us/

    https://www.shahidbuttar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/cropped-DWn5ZpLVQAAJuTX.jpg
  126. Lot says:
    @Jack D
    Having to choose between Stalin and Hitler was not a great situation to be in, but there were better and worse ways of going about this. For example the Poles, even their right wing forces, were for the most part not wild about the Germans while the Ukrainians were pretty enthusiastic about joining up with them and working for the SS as camp guards so on. Even if you were eager to get the British out of India, becoming an ally with the odious Nazis and Japanese militarists was not a good idea (especially not in retrospect) and very few other Indian leaders went that far.

    Seems like Bose did manage to gain some minor German support without it reflecting badly on Congress, which he used to lead but was forced out of by MG. It didn’t work out, but he was distant enough there wasn’t much actual downside since the plausible deniability was there from the start.

    Bose’s grandson by the way is 3/4 german and some sort of left wing intellectual there.

  127. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Hakeem is Chuck Schumer's boy. And guess what Chuckie? They're coming for you too, boychik.

    Maybe 13 or 14 years ago I had a crew of union guys in a sign war with Hakeem, who was running against Roger Green. AOC would have loved Roger Green. He was the first Mohammedan in the NY State Assemby as well as chair of the black/Puerto Rican Raucous, er, Caucus. He was big on Mama Africa stuff, which is no longer in fashion, to put it mildly.

    The union guys would pull down Hakeem's signs that ringed Grand Army Plaza, then Hakeem would come back half an hour later and pull down Roger's signs and replace his own. Not Hakeem's campaign workers; Hakeem himself. I wish I had a smart phone back then. This went on all night (primary eve). Fun times.

    Unfortunately(or fortunately), like so many Hood Heelers, Roger got busted for a pitiful three grand worth of bogus travel reimbursements and pled guilty to extremely petty larceny. Hakeem took his seat.

    “then Hakeem would come back half an hour later and pull down Roger’s signs and replace his own. Not Hakeem’s campaign workers; Hakeem himself.”

    He’s going places with that hands-on can do attitude!

  128. @El Dato

    White women Democrat voters see this all as a distraction from their pious denunciations of the fences being used to contain some guys they’d never, ever want to meet in a dark alley at night
     
    Oh really? 50 shades of dark alley!

    Oh really? 50 shades of dark alley!

    Statistically, White women don’t have much use for indios and mestizos. White men, on the other hand…

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    As Steve has pointed out, the most common interracial couples are Hispanic Male with a White Female. Though TV never shows this.
  129. Lot says:
    @istevefan
    OT - In regards to immigration, I found this 7 year old article which had been used by opponents of a hard border to argue that immigration from Mexico was essentially over so we no longer needed a hard barrier.

    Net Migration from Mexico Falls to Zero—and Perhaps Less

    This article, from the Pew Research Center, was spread throughout the MSM at the time and was continually used by trolls on blogs like this and elsewhere to argue against building a wall.

    Now we see what is happening today.

    Though the headline of the article is what was quoted and spread around, the facts buried in the text are eye opening. Mexico has essentially sent us in 40 years almost as many people as the combined total of Italians and Germans ever to come to the USA in 400 years! And they estimate that half of that Mexican total came illegally.


    The U.S. today has more immigrants from Mexico alone—12.0 million—than any other country in the world has from all countries of the world.

     

    I think the net-zero from Mexico is still the case around California at least.

    I never see FOB looking Mexicans like I did in 2006-9.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mexicans who purchased houses and held on to them are now sitting on $1 million dollar houses with $500,000 of equity and may be the newest wave of ex-Californians to cash out and head to the interior.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    The trouble with this phenomenon – nothing more than a selfish scheme to get rich quickly via overpopulation, and your progeny be damned – the problem, (for those within and without Mexinchifornia, and with apologies to Margaret Thatcher) is that, eventually, one runs out of The Interiour....
  130. Saikat Chakrabarti – what caste is this bloke a member of? Varna? Jati?

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
    Chakrabarti or chakrabarti is usually Brahmin.
  131. @Mr. Anon

    Sharice Davids (D-KS) is “the first openly LGBT Native American elected to the United States Congress”
     
    As Thomas Frank said "What's the matter with Kansas?"

    Bringing up the rear as always. Still think that woke is cool. What a bunch of maroons!

  132. @syonredux
    Anti-ICE protesters pull down American flag, raise Mexico flag, vandalize 'Blue Lives Matter' flag

    Authorities in Colorado restored an American flag to its place Friday evening after protesters demonstrating outside a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facility pulled down the star-spangled banner and flew the flag of Mexico in its place.
     
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-protestors-rip-down-american-flag-at-ice-facility-raise-mexico-flag-vandalize-blue-lives-matter-flag

    This is worse than Invasion USA.

    Where is Chuck Norris dual-wielding his MAC-10s when you need him?

  133. @gman
    Saikat has also gotten some flak for wearing a shirt of Subhas Chandra Bose - an Indian nationalist who met with Hitler.

    Frankly, I think this criticism of Saikat is stupid and Bose wasn't a Nazi and wearing a t-shirt of someone does not mean you endorse all of their views.

    Saikat has also gotten some flak for wearing a shirt of Subhas Chandra Bose – an Indian nationalist who met with Hitler.

    Frankly, I think this criticism of Saikat is stupid and Bose wasn’t a Nazi and wearing a t-shirt of someone does not mean you endorse all of their views.

    This is a guy who would never be caught dead wearing a T-shirt with an image of George Washington or Thomas Jefferson (or probably even Benjamin Franklin), but he will honor an Indian nationalist. Yeah, these immigrants assimilate so well. Immigrants are fine as long as they are legal – the GOP keeps telling itself that.

  134. Coalition of the Fringes needs some new white people to hate.

  135. @istevefan

    Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British.
     
    That is a big assumption. Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?

    Either Germany or Japan would have been worn out even if they had won the war, and would not have been in a position to subdue such a large nation like India that was not close to their borders. Logistics was not the strong point of Germany or Japan like it was with the US.

    Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?

    The Germans and Japanese would have been far more brutal in suppressing them. In the case of the Germans, Hitler told Lord Halifax in 1937 how he’d handle India:

    Shoot Gandhi! If that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress, and if that does not suffice, shoot 200 and so on until order is established.

    • Agree: syonredux
    • Replies: @L Woods
    Yes, the anticolonialist insurgencies worked mostly due to extant white guilt in the metropole — something unlikely to afflict a victorious Axis.
    , @Jack D
    Good thinking! This is the tactic that won the war for the Germans. Oh, no wait....
    , @syonredux

    The Germans and Japanese would have been far more brutal in suppressing them. In the case of the Germans, Hitler told Lord Halifax in 1937 how he’d handle India:

    Shoot Gandhi! If that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress, and if that does not suffice, shoot 200 and so on until order is established.
     
    Indeed. As Orwell noted, Gandhi's "passive resistance" depended on the enemy having certain scruples.....But, when faced with a different sort of opponent.....

    It is difficult to see how Gandhi’s methods could be applied in a country where opponents of the regime disappear in the middle of the night and are never heard of again. Without a free press and the right of assembly, it is impossible not merely to appeal to outside opinion, but to bring a mass movement into being, or even to make your intentions known to your adversary. Is there a Gandhi in Russia at this moment? And if there is, what is he accomplishing? The Russian masses could only practise civil disobedience if the same idea happened to occur to all of them simultaneously, and even then, to judge by the history of the Ukraine famine, it would make no difference.
     
    https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/reflections-on-gandhi/
    , @J.Ross
    I don't see a reason to expect a German India here. Hitler is clearly talking about being in Churchill's shoes as a hypothetical. Hitler wanted a cross between the Roman Empire and the American South in Eastern Europe, the world conquest stuff is of a piece with the urine fetish thing. Were the Japanese brutal to their Thai allies?
    , @istevefan
    Many users have pointed out that the Germans and Japanese were tougher than the English, and Gandhi's tactics would not have worked with them or the Japanese.

    I simply point to the fact that India was too populous and too far away from Germany or Japan for either to effectively colonize it at the conclusion of WW2 had they been on the winning side. The Germans were notorious for not being able to keep their forces properly supplied. They never developed the type of logistical system that the US did.

    What the US did in supplying its own forces and those of its allies, across the two largest oceans and in multiple fronts was truly something to behold. Germany or Japan were not remotely close to having that capability in WW2. Additionally, even if they had won, they would have been licking their wounds and trying to consolidate their gains around their own nations. They would not have been in position to colonize India.

    India at that time had over 350 million people. If the Indians had gotten a taste of freedom with the departure of the Brits, why would they have sat back for either the Germans or the Japanese? If 350 million people don't want to be ruled by foreigners, they won't. How the British were able to do it as long as they did is something I don't have an answer for. But once it became clear the Indians did not want British rule, even the British knew the time was up. There were just too many people to control.

    Others have pointed to Japan's conquest of part of China. And of course China had even more people than India. But Japan would never have been able to hold on to that possession. There were just too many Chinese, and there were millions of them under arms with either Mao or Chiang Kai Shek. Despite killing millions of Chinese, those forces were growing and the Japanese would simply have not been able to hold on to its conquered Chinese territory long term.

    By the time of WW2 colonialism was fading and colonized peoples were no longer willing to be colonized. Just look at what happened to the victors after WW2. The French, Brits and other Euros all eventually lost their colonies because the cost of keeping them became too great. Had the Germans or Japanese won, that same growing resistance to colonialism would have been present as well. Other than weaker nations in their near abroad, I just don't see them being able to takeover giants like India or China.
    , @Dr Van Nostrand
    It seems you are quite ignorant of Indian history. Read up on the famines and slaughters courtesy of the British in the 1800s. Quite in the league of the tentacle porn enthusiasts and scheisa video afficianados. Gandhi was controlled opposition. And nothing more.
    , @vinteuil

    Shoot Gandhi! If that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress, and if that does not suffice, shoot 200 and so on until order is established.
     
    Interesting...was it Lord Cromer who said something to the effect that all he needed to control Egypt was the unquestioned right to shoot one person per year, at his whim? And that, given said right, he'd never actually have to exercise it?

    But Hitler had neither the time nor the established colonial infrastructure for such subtlety.
  136. @Mr. Anon

    Sharice Davids (D-KS) is “the first openly LGBT Native American elected to the United States Congress”
     
    As Thomas Frank said "What's the matter with Kansas?"

    “What’s the matter with Kansas?”

    Libertarian godfather Charles Koch. And tornadoes. I bet the people are nice, though.

  137. This activity that democrats are engaged in, it’s like a grinder pitting everyone against everyone. She’s black, but he’s gay – who wins? Xir is trans, but the opponent is an illegal woman single mother – who wins?

    We’re all fascinated with the process, and we’re wondering who the ultimate winner will be, and what are the rules and what’s the winning strategy. It’s a male thing to do.

    I’m wondering if grinding everyone down is the goal, and maybe we should be wondering who’s holding the grinder.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Uncle Ted had it right in the Parable of the Cabin Boy: time spent agonizing over superficialities is time not spent asking why our leadership is doing what it's doing.
    , @Thea
    It is reminiscent of Trotsky’s perpetual revolution. If that is correct, then eternal grinding is what we get. Peaceful relations between groups would break the bonds of the Krazy glue.

    A childless, blue haired Anglo Saxon feminist from Massachusetts hold it.

  138. @Dave Pinsen

    Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?
     
    The Germans and Japanese would have been far more brutal in suppressing them. In the case of the Germans, Hitler told Lord Halifax in 1937 how he'd handle India:

    Shoot Gandhi! If that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress, and if that does not suffice, shoot 200 and so on until order is established.
     

    Yes, the anticolonialist insurgencies worked mostly due to extant white guilt in the metropole — something unlikely to afflict a victorious Axis.

  139. @PiltdownMan
    Yet another is a big name English Literature professor.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayatri_Chakravorty_Spivak

    Enjoy.
    http://www.bahaistudies.net/neurelitism/library/subaltern_speak.pdf

    Yet another is a big name English Literature professor.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayatri_Chakravorty_Spivak

    What a sickening deranged poMo bitch. Imported from India. And she has been paid by American universities to spread her madness. btw 50% of PoMo and Post Colonial theory is careerism gone wild in the University. iow they are base money grabbers.

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
    Agree. Such rubbish programs should be eliminated. And Im an anti colonialist.
  140. @Anon

    I never heard of any of these people before today
     
    Um, you haven't? This video came out what, 4 months ago, and has had over 2.5 million views?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5iv6sECGU

    Cliff Notes for Clueless Boomers (CB's): Saikat Chakrabarti is actually more influential than AOC. She is just the public face. Chakrabarti's group, the Justice Democrats, are hardcore Marxists whose sole intention is to undermine the US government and foment a communist revolution. AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and one more were elected because they responded to a casting call from the Justice Democrats. Prior to that, AOC had no interest in politics. She is an actor. That's why she looks like a complete fool when she goes away from her scripted talking points.

    Chakrabarti and AOC were also involved in a huge campaign funds embezzlement scandal a few months ago. God I can't do all the work for you guys!!

    Yep, you nailed it. I hope the Justice Democrats continue their Jacobin reign of terror in the Democratic Party. It would be most illuminative for the progressive Beckys/Betsys in the party to take a gander at the hate emanating from the black and brown faces of the Squad. The Democratic Party needs to implode and moderate from the wreckage. It’s obvious by now but bears repeating: Saikat Chakrabarti is the son of Indian immigrants.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    The battle is black (African-American, emphasis on American) vs brown (post-American).
  141. Sexy Kurdish nationalist shakes her rump in front of some lions.

    They are my favorite major group of middle east muslims, I wish them good luck.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    But of course, our most loyally degenerate imperial satraps. They’ll have 11 year old drag queens sticking it to the remnants of ISIS before you know it.
  142. AOC was one of the candidates put forth by The Justice Democrats organization. Davids was not. David’s does not seem to make any pretense to wokeness.

    Davids was born in Germany to a lower Ranking military family. She is of various native American nations. Davids graduated JD Cornell and appears to be a typical US elite. The Native American lgbt… MMA adds color. Native Americans seem to be very conservative non woke.

    She represents prairie tech hub Olathe Kansas (Garmin), and votes the tech industry needs. She apparently voted for skills based immigration which implies immigration is not a natural right (0th amendment). Skills based immigration is also bad for those that need unskilled labor or flop house renters, for example AOC’s district.

    Olathe was were a white guy shot an Indian Engineer working for Garmin dead.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olathe,_Kansas#21st_century

    Although registered as a D she is at least diplomatic with Trump. In 2016, she worked as a White House Fellow in the Department of Transportation during the transition between the Obama and Trump administrations.[9]. Which makes her a fairly typical Kansas D.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharice_Davids

  143. @PiltdownMan

    Frankly, I think this criticism of Saikat is stupid and Bose wasn’t a Nazi and wearing a t-shirt of someone does not mean you endorse all of their views.
     
    Whatever Bose's reputation is in his homeland, this Saikat guy must be pretty stupid.

    Bose met with Himmler and Hitler in 1943, and agreed to the idea of their recruiting nationalist Indians stuck in wartime Europe to form the Indian Legion of the Waffen-SS.

    A Harvard educated political operator should be a bit more savvy than that. I've no idea how many Jewish-American political types on the left know about Bose, but I've got to assume at least some do.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101III-Alber-064-04%2C_Subhas_Chandra_Bose_bei_Heinrich_Himmler.jpg

    That Himmler was a looker.

  144. [W]hat’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis?

    Thanks; I thought those were turds.

  145. @Lot
    It is just like italics for emphasis for the woke crowd. It doesn’t have anything to do with insults.

    Here’s Dave Weigel doing it ironically:

    https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1039926920304058370

    “Here’s Dave Weigel doing it ironically …”

    Are you sure about that? He is a member of the DC media collective.

  146. @syonredux
    Anti-ICE protesters pull down American flag, raise Mexico flag, vandalize 'Blue Lives Matter' flag

    Authorities in Colorado restored an American flag to its place Friday evening after protesters demonstrating outside a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facility pulled down the star-spangled banner and flew the flag of Mexico in its place.
     
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-protestors-rip-down-american-flag-at-ice-facility-raise-mexico-flag-vandalize-blue-lives-matter-flag

    “Anti-ICE protesters pull down American flag, raise Mexico flag, vandalize ‘Blue Lives Matter flag”

    Then they went back home to their college debt.

  147. Our new country: The Diverse States of Wakanda

  148. @Lot
    Sexy Kurdish nationalist shakes her rump in front of some lions.

    They are my favorite major group of middle east muslims, I wish them good luck.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SetwsLL1I10

    But of course, our most loyally degenerate imperial satraps. They’ll have 11 year old drag queens sticking it to the remnants of ISIS before you know it.

    • Replies: @Lot
    “They’ll have 11 year old drag queens”

    Would this be US or Afghan influence? At least the Afghans don’t poison and physically deform them with chemical hormones.

    https://thenewsrep.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/bacha-bazi-the-dancing-boys-of-afghanistan-2.jpg
  149. @Dave Pinsen
    All the famous Indian nationalists wanted the British out of India, but only Bose, AFAIK, allied himself with Hitler, and, later, Tojo. Morality aside, this was dumb for two reasons. Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British. And second, Bose stuck with the Axis when it was obvious they were losing the war.

    India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese

    Imagine…Today India run by the Japanese…

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    Is this anything like the zero-G toilet instructions in the movie 2001?

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&id=F82D504B23C35DD77D471F92BE2ADED34D67DC59&thid=OIP.w5vM5IuH9vzPPPm8i0mv5gHaFH&mediaurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ee.ryerson.ca%2F~elf%2Faso%2Fimages%2F0G-toilet.jpg&exph=363&expw=526&q=2001+space+odyssey+zero-g+toilet+instructions&selectedindex=0&ajaxhist=0&vt=0&eim=0,1,2,6
  150. Saikat Chakrabarti is a vile, venomous snake. If we were a sane nation, we’d bind him hand and foot, and toss him from the Brooklyn Bridge during an outbound tide, never to be seen again. Letting this demonic parasite into our nation is like walking into Sloan Kettering and asking to be injected with cancer. He’s that bad.

    What Chakrabarti also is, is a bright-as-the-sun exemplar of PeterIke’s Law, which is confirmed almost daily now on iSteve. As a reminder to the new kids on the block:

    PeterIke’s Law: Asian immigration to America is going to be far more destructive than Hispanic immigration, and Hispanic immigration is a disaster.

  151. @Lot
    I think the net-zero from Mexico is still the case around California at least.

    I never see FOB looking Mexicans like I did in 2006-9.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mexicans who purchased houses and held on to them are now sitting on $1 million dollar houses with $500,000 of equity and may be the newest wave of ex-Californians to cash out and head to the interior.

    The trouble with this phenomenon – nothing more than a selfish scheme to get rich quickly via overpopulation, and your progeny be damned – the problem, (for those within and without Mexinchifornia, and with apologies to Margaret Thatcher) is that, eventually, one runs out of The Interiour….

  152. Speaking of hand emojis, I know a white guy who invariably uses the most black hand when sending emojis. Thumbs-up and stuff. It’s weird and sickening.

    He’s a German. Living in Germany. A perfect example of why that nation is doomed.

  153. @Dave Pinsen

    Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?
     
    The Germans and Japanese would have been far more brutal in suppressing them. In the case of the Germans, Hitler told Lord Halifax in 1937 how he'd handle India:

    Shoot Gandhi! If that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress, and if that does not suffice, shoot 200 and so on until order is established.
     

    Good thinking! This is the tactic that won the war for the Germans. Oh, no wait….

  154. @Lot
    The British were are lot better at imperialism than Germany or Japan, allowing them to keep India for a long time without much force. “Axis wins the war” already implies Japanese occupation of China, Korea, parts of Siberia, Philippines and Indochina. Add India to this?

    France, Spain and Holland are the only other nations to show even close to that skill level at non-European Imperialism.

    Portugal

  155. @Dave Pinsen

    Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?
     
    The Germans and Japanese would have been far more brutal in suppressing them. In the case of the Germans, Hitler told Lord Halifax in 1937 how he'd handle India:

    Shoot Gandhi! If that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress, and if that does not suffice, shoot 200 and so on until order is established.
     

    The Germans and Japanese would have been far more brutal in suppressing them. In the case of the Germans, Hitler told Lord Halifax in 1937 how he’d handle India:

    Shoot Gandhi! If that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress, and if that does not suffice, shoot 200 and so on until order is established.

    Indeed. As Orwell noted, Gandhi’s “passive resistance” depended on the enemy having certain scruples…..But, when faced with a different sort of opponent…..

    It is difficult to see how Gandhi’s methods could be applied in a country where opponents of the regime disappear in the middle of the night and are never heard of again. Without a free press and the right of assembly, it is impossible not merely to appeal to outside opinion, but to bring a mass movement into being, or even to make your intentions known to your adversary. Is there a Gandhi in Russia at this moment? And if there is, what is he accomplishing? The Russian masses could only practise civil disobedience if the same idea happened to occur to all of them simultaneously, and even then, to judge by the history of the Ukraine famine, it would make no difference.

    https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/reflections-on-gandhi/

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Would a Gandhi be possible in Modi's India?
    , @Anonymous
    Read Harry turtledove's sci-fi short story
    "The Last Article" on how the Germans would
    Have handled India and Ghandi!
    , @Dr Van Nostrand
    "Indeed. As Orwell noted, Gandhi’s “passive resistance” depended on the enemy having certain scruples…..But, when faced with a different sort of opponent….."

    Lol. Brits saw Gandhi as a useful idiot. The Brits had absolutely no scruples or honor and had more tricks than a whore. Why would they should Gandhi when he actively recruited Indian cannon fodder for them in WWI and WWII?
  156. @istevefan
    OT - In regards to immigration, I found this 7 year old article which had been used by opponents of a hard border to argue that immigration from Mexico was essentially over so we no longer needed a hard barrier.

    Net Migration from Mexico Falls to Zero—and Perhaps Less

    This article, from the Pew Research Center, was spread throughout the MSM at the time and was continually used by trolls on blogs like this and elsewhere to argue against building a wall.

    Now we see what is happening today.

    Though the headline of the article is what was quoted and spread around, the facts buried in the text are eye opening. Mexico has essentially sent us in 40 years almost as many people as the combined total of Italians and Germans ever to come to the USA in 400 years! And they estimate that half of that Mexican total came illegally.


    The U.S. today has more immigrants from Mexico alone—12.0 million—than any other country in the world has from all countries of the world.

     

    OT – In regards to immigration, I found this 7 year old article which had been used by opponents of a hard border to argue that immigration from Mexico was essentially over so we no longer needed a hard barrier.

    Which still leaves us with millions of Hondurans, El Salvadorans, Guatemalans, ……Not to mention how Black Africans are now starting to use the Southern border as their route of entry…..

    • Replies: @Clyde

    Which still leaves us with millions of Hondurans, El Salvadorans, Guatemalans, ……Not to mention how Black Africans are now starting to use the Southern border as their route of entry…..
     
    32 million live in Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala. I hear at 20% of those nations already live here and at least 800,000 have been scamming their way across our border, gaining entry via lying ass asylum claims and other means. Many of these Central American border jumpers are women w children. Indian and half Indian women in their prime reproductive years. The nations that the colonialist Spanish effed up... They all want to come here.

    One African I read about flew into Quito, Ecuador, took a few months to work her way northward. She was in her 8th month of pregnancy as she got very close to the US/Mexico border. You know she aims to be in the USA when she gives birth.
  157. @Jack D
    Having to choose between Stalin and Hitler was not a great situation to be in, but there were better and worse ways of going about this. For example the Poles, even their right wing forces, were for the most part not wild about the Germans while the Ukrainians were pretty enthusiastic about joining up with them and working for the SS as camp guards so on. Even if you were eager to get the British out of India, becoming an ally with the odious Nazis and Japanese militarists was not a good idea (especially not in retrospect) and very few other Indian leaders went that far.

    “…while the Ukrainians were pretty enthusiastic about joining up with them…”

    Geez Louise, just imagine being enthusiastic about fighting back against the people who had tried to starve your entire country to death only a few years before! Why, the ingratitude!

  158. So the official representation of the “House Democrats” is a bunch of brown hands clapping while telling you what you are allowed to say and think.

    Yeah, that checks out.

  159. @anon
    So it's a SJW version of the clickbait "slams" (which means rebukes or criticizes).

    Like a snappy comeback?

    Yes

  160. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Surprisingly, Representative Sharice Davids is probably better than her Republican predecessor, Kevin Yoder, who served as the foremost quintessential big-business shill for unlimited immigration!

    Surprisingly, Representative Sharice Davids is probably better than her Republican predecessor, Kevin Yoder, who served as the foremost quintessential big-business shill for unlimited immigration!

    Absolutely. We have to get our heads around the idea that ANY alternative to the Cuck is preferable. I don’t care if that alternative is a crazy, white-hating, clueless socialist loon. The Cuck is the most destructive political phenomenon out there. The Cuck is destroying our future and that of our posterity.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  161. eah says:
    @anon
    Here proposal is couched in SJW language about helping the homeless with "programs". But when you cut through the bullshit she is saying we should round up vagrants and lock them up on a county work farm.
    Sounds like a good idea to me.

    Her proposal is couched in SJW language about helping the homeless with “programs”.

    Well, yes — that’s the ‘circular firing squad’ part: she is herself a bit of an SJW, but realistic about how bad the situation is and that something must be done — as she says in an interview (also at the link):

    “I don’t think the district is that safe. I don’t think the city of Seattle is very safe.”

    Her suggestion is sensible and would get them off the streets and out of the parks, which is the goal — but she was attacked by the same radical SJW nutjobs who’ve failed to address the problem for years.

    Sounds like a good idea to me.

    Right — why do decent people have to put up with this shit? — no one should be allowed to camp on the street or in any public space — when you look into it, the problem in Seattle is just as bad as in eg SF or LA.

  162. Example of “clapback” performed by comedian Kevin Hart:

  163. We want morality to limit conduct and control externalities and they want morality to guarantee universal purity of thought. We have an image of possible success and they cannot stop.

  164. @L Woods
    But of course, our most loyally degenerate imperial satraps. They’ll have 11 year old drag queens sticking it to the remnants of ISIS before you know it.

    “They’ll have 11 year old drag queens”

    Would this be US or Afghan influence? At least the Afghans don’t poison and physically deform them with chemical hormones.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    “They’ll have 11 year old drag queens”

    Would this be US or Afghan influence? At least the Afghans don’t poison and physically deform them with chemical hormones.
     
    Give 'em time. The Iranians are fully on board with World War T:

    Before the Islamic Revolution in 1979, the issue of trans identity in Iran had never been officially addressed by the government. Beginning in the mid-1980s, however, transgender individuals were officially recognized by the government and allowed to undergo sex reassignment surgery. As of 2008, Iran carries out more sex change operations than any other nation in the world except Thailand. The government provides up to half the cost for those needing financial assistance, and a sex change is recognized on the birth certificate.[1] As of 2017, the government provided transgender persons financial assistance in the form of grants of up to 25 million tomans ($1,730 USD).
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_Iran
    , @PiltdownMan


    “They’ll have 11 year old drag queens”
     
    Would this be US or Afghan influence? At least the Afghans don’t poison and physically deform them with chemical hormones.
     
    Cross-dressed young boys and male pedophilia have been a feature of various tribal Afghan sub-cultures for centuries. The British reported it in the 19th century, and our military worked hard to look the other way when we invaded in 2001 and needed the help of friendly locals.

    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-army/2017/11/17/dod-ig-us-troops-were-told-to-ignore-child-sex-abuse-by-afghan-forces/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

  165. @Lot
    “And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis? Is that some Black Woman of Color thing like snapping your fingers while making the shape of a Z was back during In Living Color era?”

    Correct.

    Didn’t you ever see those campus SJW mobbing videos on you tube? When a SJW speaks, especially a WOC, they all snap their fingers repeatedly?

    The clapping thing evolved from that as not everyone has the dexterity to snap their fingers.

    And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis? Is that some Black Woman of Color thing like snapping your fingers while making the shape of a Z was back during In Living Color era?

    It’s all a mystery to me. I’m still doing the ‘cut, it, out’ hand thing from Dave Coulier from “Full House.”

  166. OT – there are so many lies in this lying piece by a lying liar that it would take forever to write a rebuttal, but the main thrust – that because of “demographic change” it would be a lot harder to resist busing – seems pretty sound.

    “Perhaps even more important than shifting attitudes, however, is the way America’s changing demographics have altered who holds political power, gerrymandering notwithstanding. Before, it was clear where the majority of voters lived: uniformly white neighborhoods, served by uniformly white schools. These places were the traditional bulwark against integration efforts, breeding grounds for the civil-rights backlash that legislators and presidents learned to fear. They’ve been reduced to a minority. In some states and cities, a very small minority.”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/07/kamala-harris-busing-politics/593797/

    The author thinks that’s a good thing. He does touch obliquely on the problem of running out of white kids.

    “And counterintuitively, as all-white neighborhoods have grown rarer, people of color have, by some metrics, become more isolated. That’s because America’s rapidly increasing population of color has caused non-white-segregated neighborhoods to grow, even as white-segregated neighborhoods have shrunk. “

  167. @istevefan
    OT - In regards to immigration, I found this 7 year old article which had been used by opponents of a hard border to argue that immigration from Mexico was essentially over so we no longer needed a hard barrier.

    Net Migration from Mexico Falls to Zero—and Perhaps Less

    This article, from the Pew Research Center, was spread throughout the MSM at the time and was continually used by trolls on blogs like this and elsewhere to argue against building a wall.

    Now we see what is happening today.

    Though the headline of the article is what was quoted and spread around, the facts buried in the text are eye opening. Mexico has essentially sent us in 40 years almost as many people as the combined total of Italians and Germans ever to come to the USA in 400 years! And they estimate that half of that Mexican total came illegally.


    The U.S. today has more immigrants from Mexico alone—12.0 million—than any other country in the world has from all countries of the world.

     

    And Germans are our largest ethnic grouo

    • Replies: @istevefan

    And Germans are our largest ethnic grouo
     
    And they got to be our largest group through the immigration of around 7 million Germans throughout our colonial and national history. Mexico has just sent about 11 million in the past 40 years. In a few generations they will probably be our largest ethnic group.
  168. @AndrewR
    Sharice Davids is apparently a big fan of Brenton Tarrant and Robert Bowers.

    https://nativenewsonline.net/currents/old-photo-of-rep-davids-wearing-all-my-heroes-killed-colonizers-t-shirt-riles-gop-congressional-committee/

    I can't believe that clap thing is on the official Twitter account of the House Dem caucus. The US is beyond screwed.

    In fairness they’re trying to adapt to the medium. You see the same from companies on Twitter. They don’t post like an organisation, they post like an individual. It’s the best way to get eyeballs on what you’re posting. Now they’ve tailored the message to permeate through the heavy Twitter user networks.

    It’s become a more popular approach that many entities are taking on Twitter to drive ‘engagement’. It all seems to have started with the Wendy’s Twitter account.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    It probably predates Wendy's, but I see your point. Still, I think the US House Democratic Caucus should be above that. I guess that ship has sailed
  169. @Mr. Anon

    Sharice Davids (D-KS) is “the first openly LGBT Native American elected to the United States Congress”
     
    As Thomas Frank said "What's the matter with Kansas?"

    FWIW: “What’s the Matter With Kansas?” did not originate with Frank. It’s the title of a famous 1896 editorial by William Allen White.

  170. @Anonymous
    Also, note that "keep her name out of your mouth" is lifted from the recent Ayanna Pressley's "Distraction Becky" tweet, but is effectively being used against her wing.

    It's completely synthetic.

    That phrase has long been used by blekpypo. I’ve heard it for the past 40 years.

  171. And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis?

    Clapping hands in your opponents face during an argument is an African woman thing. It’s called clapping back, a phrase which has worked its way into the political vernacular. I once saw a black woman clapping back at her iPhone on speaker during a contentious phone call with another angry black woman; she put the phone on the roof of her car after pulling over and getting out so she could be hands free. That was two years ago so it’s been a thing for a while.

  172. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Surprisingly, Representative Sharice Davids is probably better than her Republican predecessor, Kevin Yoder, who served as the foremost quintessential big-business shill for unlimited immigration!

    I sent her some wampum. Fuck Yoder.

  173. An example of this.

  174. @Tiny Duck
    Why are white girls so promiscuous?

    Why do they find Boys of Color so irresistible?

    Because woman’s soul lays somewhere between the gutter and hell. Satisfied?

  175. @Fidelios Automata
    The British Raj was the best thing that ever happened to India. They should be sending reparations to the UK for all the infrastructure and advancements the British gave the country -- as well as making the nation of India possible in the first place.

    The British couldn’t have held India for even a day if the Indians didn’t think that the benefits outweighed the cost.

  176. @Dave Pinsen

    Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?
     
    The Germans and Japanese would have been far more brutal in suppressing them. In the case of the Germans, Hitler told Lord Halifax in 1937 how he'd handle India:

    Shoot Gandhi! If that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress, and if that does not suffice, shoot 200 and so on until order is established.
     

    I don’t see a reason to expect a German India here. Hitler is clearly talking about being in Churchill’s shoes as a hypothetical. Hitler wanted a cross between the Roman Empire and the American South in Eastern Europe, the world conquest stuff is of a piece with the urine fetish thing. Were the Japanese brutal to their Thai allies?

  177. Off-topic. Steve, please check Farhad Manjoo Wikipedia page. It was edited to refer to him ‘They’ instead of ‘he’.

  178. @Fidelios Automata
    The British Raj was the best thing that ever happened to India. They should be sending reparations to the UK for all the infrastructure and advancements the British gave the country -- as well as making the nation of India possible in the first place.

    Britain allowed 3 million to die in the Bengal famine, while diverting Indian grain to British soldiers. Winston Churchill mocked the starving Indians.

  179. Better documentary on how this all started. It’s what the metrics say is the best way get retweets and followers.

  180. @Anon
    Bose is a national hero in India, like various other figures in various parts of Europe (you're not going to find much Mannerheim-hatred among Finns, for instance). That"POC" don't really care much about the political obsessions of Jews, and the havoc that fact sometimes causes in leftist ranks, are pretty common topics on here.


    Indian sari:

    https://5.imimg.com/data5/DS/AH/MY-51995407/box-check-blue-kota-silk-saree-500x500.jpg

    In a similar vein, when in Ulaan Bator, one does not talk smack about Genghis. He is regarded, unapologetically, as a national hero. Genghis Khan is one of my favorite people ever.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    How many murders, rapes, burnings, civilization destruction, genocide, total domination of an entire continent does a guy have to commit to get a little respect?

    I thought something like 20% of Asia descends from GK due to his and his immediate male relatives rape and pillage campaigns. Where's the Me Too of central Asia?
  181. Calling someone a “Nazi” or comparing a facility to a death camp all but guarantees wannabe “liberators” and, if we had lawyers in this country, would be understood as a form of “yelling ‘fire’in a crowded theater.

    A man police described as armed with a rifle and throwing flammable objects was shot and killed outside the Northwest Detention Center early Saturday morning.

    An employee at the facility, which operates on behalf of ICE, called police shortly before 4 a.m. saying a man with a rifle was throwing “incendiary devices” at the building, setting vehicles on fire and attempting to ignite a large propane tank, according to Tacoma PD.

    Shortly after arriving on scene, officers say they found a suspect with a gun, wearing a satchel and carrying flares.

    Police fired on the man in a parking lot across from the facility, striking him fatally.

    It is unknown how many shots were fired or if the man also shot at police. No officers were injured.

    https://q13fox.com/2019/07/13/man-shot-and-killed-by-police-outside-tacoma-ice-detention-facility/amp/

  182. Why the hell is everybody- and that includes you Sailer boy, going along with this AOC nonsense?

    Her name is Sandy Cortez, she’s a bartender running for an office she’s unqualified for.

    JFK she ain’t

  183. have you seen this Steve,

    • Replies: @Penskefile
    Wow - that was really hard to listen to, that vocal inflection just screams "I'm earnest and I want you to believe that I've found the truth"

    I've tried to avoid Vox content, which unfortunately shows up in some of my news feeds and I inadvertently hate-click on the headline, only to immediately back out when I see the source.

    I struggled to watch this video all the way through, but just had to comment on "what a bunch of garbage". Obviously, a rebuttal could be made on every point made in the video, but what's really scary is that THIS IS the narrative out there today. Plenty of well-meaning people see this and come away thinking "The System" (as it's referred to in the video numerous times) is biased in favor of wealthy white people.

    I loved the graphic where it purported that low income who attend selective colleges come away making "just as much" as their colleagues. Clearly, everyone is above-average then! I believe the narrator cited the work of our favorite economist Raj Chetty there.
  184. @Lot
    “They’ll have 11 year old drag queens”

    Would this be US or Afghan influence? At least the Afghans don’t poison and physically deform them with chemical hormones.

    https://thenewsrep.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/bacha-bazi-the-dancing-boys-of-afghanistan-2.jpg

    “They’ll have 11 year old drag queens”

    Would this be US or Afghan influence? At least the Afghans don’t poison and physically deform them with chemical hormones.

    Give ’em time. The Iranians are fully on board with World War T:

    Before the Islamic Revolution in 1979, the issue of trans identity in Iran had never been officially addressed by the government. Beginning in the mid-1980s, however, transgender individuals were officially recognized by the government and allowed to undergo sex reassignment surgery. As of 2008, Iran carries out more sex change operations than any other nation in the world except Thailand. The government provides up to half the cost for those needing financial assistance, and a sex change is recognized on the birth certificate.[1] As of 2017, the government provided transgender persons financial assistance in the form of grants of up to 25 million tomans ($1,730 USD).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_Iran

    • Replies: @Gabe Ruth
    That's some crazy shit, is that true? The wiki article is very thorough, enjoyed the chart.
    , @Marcus
    Yeah but they use it as a cure for homosexuality, not because they are onboard with the LGBTQIA agenda lmao
  185. Anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:

    Under what rules can a dot Indian ever attack a feather Indian (lesbian or whatever) without “punching down?” The new rich South Asian colonists need to take their 1950s Jim Crow shtick back to the drawing board– there are still too many people alive who remember the original for this retconned transracial reboot to play in Peoria.

  186. @Hippopotamusdrome


    India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese

     

    Imagine...Today India run by the Japanese...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km3xt49fHq4
  187. Anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Surprisingly, Representative Sharice Davids is probably better than her Republican predecessor, Kevin Yoder, who served as the foremost quintessential big-business shill for unlimited immigration!

    I first read her outlandishly identified as an “MMA-competing truck driver” (apart from the LGBTIIAQTGP merit badge stuff which I can never keep, well, straight) but apparently she’s a lawyer, had outraised Yoder by $1 mil — despite his excellent rapport with donors — and then beat him by 10 points.

    The district is based in the Kansas City metropolitan area and surrounding suburbs in eastern Kansas. Cities include Kansas City and Overland Park. Incumbent Republican Kevin Yoder had represented the district since 2011. Yoder was re-elected with 51% of the vote in 2016. Yoder lost to his Democratic challenger, attorney Sharice Davids, who became one of the first Native American women ever elected to Congress.

  188. @Anon7
    This activity that democrats are engaged in, it's like a grinder pitting everyone against everyone. She’s black, but he’s gay - who wins? Xir is trans, but the opponent is an illegal woman single mother - who wins?

    We’re all fascinated with the process, and we’re wondering who the ultimate winner will be, and what are the rules and what’s the winning strategy. It’s a male thing to do.

    I’m wondering if grinding everyone down is the goal, and maybe we should be wondering who’s holding the grinder.

    Uncle Ted had it right in the Parable of the Cabin Boy: time spent agonizing over superficialities is time not spent asking why our leadership is doing what it’s doing.

  189. @syonredux

    The Germans and Japanese would have been far more brutal in suppressing them. In the case of the Germans, Hitler told Lord Halifax in 1937 how he’d handle India:

    Shoot Gandhi! If that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress, and if that does not suffice, shoot 200 and so on until order is established.
     
    Indeed. As Orwell noted, Gandhi's "passive resistance" depended on the enemy having certain scruples.....But, when faced with a different sort of opponent.....

    It is difficult to see how Gandhi’s methods could be applied in a country where opponents of the regime disappear in the middle of the night and are never heard of again. Without a free press and the right of assembly, it is impossible not merely to appeal to outside opinion, but to bring a mass movement into being, or even to make your intentions known to your adversary. Is there a Gandhi in Russia at this moment? And if there is, what is he accomplishing? The Russian masses could only practise civil disobedience if the same idea happened to occur to all of them simultaneously, and even then, to judge by the history of the Ukraine famine, it would make no difference.
     
    https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/reflections-on-gandhi/

    Would a Gandhi be possible in Modi’s India?

  190. @Anon
    Nonsense. Gandhi’s strategy could only have worked against “fair play” and Christian types like the Brits. Against Adolf it would be like that priest who gets vaporized in the first War of the Worlds. Judge that how you will.

    Yes I believe that Hitler’s unsolicited advice to the British was to shot Gandhi and all the Congress ringleaders and go from there if there was continued resistance

  191. @Charles Pewitt
    Teddy Cruz Belongs To The Coalition Of The Canadian Cuckservatives

    Teddy Cruz should keep his phucking mouth shut tight like a bastard when it comes to Tennessee or Nathan Bedford Forrest.

    This Canadian pussy boy puke Teddy Cruz is now attacking the memory and sacred honor of General Nathan Bedford Forrest. If Canadian cuck boy Teddy Cruz saw Nathan Bedford Forrest on horseback galloping towards him while waving his sword at Teddy Cruz's fat face, you can be sure that Teddy Cruz would piss his pants.

    This rancid Republican Party turd Teddy Cruz pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and legalization(amnesty) for illegal alien invaders.

    Teddy Cruz once co-wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal with Paul Ryan that called for giving Obama full trade promotion authority to continue on with the negotiations for Obama's sovereignty-sapping, job-killing Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal scam.

    I hereby challenge snot-nosed punk Teddy Cruz to a 4 hour debate on Nathan Bedford Forrest and mass legal immigration and illegal immigration and trade deal scams and endless overseas war and American national identity and multiculturalism and any other damn thing that needs saying to this rat puke Teddy Cruz!

    I would rhetorically pound the stuffing out of globalizer coward boy Teddy Cruz in a debate!

    I call on the great people of Texas to immediately recall and replace the treasonous rat politician whore Teddy Cruz.

    https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1149798895955914753

    Yes, the great Forrest who failed at everything he attempted except selling slaves before the war :/

    • Replies: @guest
    Presumably all you've ever heard of the man is that he was a slave trader and on the losing side of the Civil War.

    Hey, did you know he had superiors in that war? Or that he also excelled at enterprises beyond slavery ? Or that he excelled at basically everything he did, beyond the wildest dreams of most every human being ever?
  192. @Dave Pinsen
    All the famous Indian nationalists wanted the British out of India, but only Bose, AFAIK, allied himself with Hitler, and, later, Tojo. Morality aside, this was dumb for two reasons. Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British. And second, Bose stuck with the Axis when it was obvious they were losing the war.

    India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British.

    I’m not 100% sure about that, the Japanese occupation was often light in areas where they didn’t have much resistance to deal with, like Indonesia, Burma, French Indochina and Malaysia (the later two became hostile later on); and I doubt many Indians would have felt compelled to take up arms to restore the Raj, except maybe some Muslims.

  193. @Rosie

    Oh really? 50 shades of dark alley!
     
    Statistically, White women don't have much use for indios and mestizos. White men, on the other hand...

    As Steve has pointed out, the most common interracial couples are Hispanic Male with a White Female. Though TV never shows this.

  194. racist racist racist racist

    I saw Saikat’s tweet elsewhere and counted the four instances of that term in his message of fifty words.

  195. @Counterinsurgency

    God I can’t do all the work for you guys!!
     
    There was a scene in H. Harrison's _Bil, the Galactic Hero_, that fits the audience reaction. After being drugged into signing up for the Imperial forces, Bil (formerly Bill, but two "l"s are for officers only) is attending a mandatory lecture on the Imperial code for criminal justice. This is a paraphrase:

    The recruits weren't interested. They knew they had signed away every human right when they enlisted, and weren't interested in the details."
     
    But the news is important for some, including some here. The entire Federal government is becoming highly dysfunctional.

    "We tax you so that we can import foreigners and internal migrants who are physical threats to you and your relatives (including children), we make it almost impossible to have a family unless you are working for us or with us, and, to top it off, we're picking a fight with several nuclear armed countries. We also call you names and make faces at you (e.g. AOC, Maddow)."

    Since government's main publicly announced function now is to destroy (Whiteness, pollution, haters, etc), it's hard to fail, and and any clown can participate, the more clownish the better.

    It's important that people know just how far downhill things have gone; Trump's election shows that. Unlike H. Harrison's book, the present system is not statically stable. Western civilization depends upon a balancing act that requires high competence: look at California, which is apparently about to lose its electrical grid through looting it it even of maintenance funds.

    The present Western system is, in large part, a response to the financial non-viability of US cities after c.a. AD 1960. Western society has largely been an urban phenomenon. When Western cities lost light manufacturing due to containerization of cargo, the Interstates, and world wide cheap high bandwidth electronic communications (and destruction of capital during WW I and II), they started supporting themselves through tax monies, through politics. This was made possible by the Third World "population explosion" and the "birth dearth" among European descended Western populations.

    Should urban support through tax monies become unworkable (say through attempts to "manipulate the currency", through military failure removes US protection from the sea lanes, through simple tax revolts, through a natural disaster (CA quakes, New Orleans flooding, widespread crop failures), through, in short, the next real national emergency, the current system would transform itself. We saw an example of that in the transformation of Louisiana politics after New Orleans flooded from Katrina and the voters moved out of New Orleans.

    The more corrupt the system, the more likely such a transformation will occur. So: Thanks for the news. Somebody has to do it ("'Somebody, somebody has to, you see.'So she picked out two somebodies: Sally and me.").

    Counterinsugency



    Counterinsurgency

    You’ve written several comments in this vein, regarding our current practice of looting the country to prop up urban cities. Any blog or book recommendations? Sounds a little like Kunstler, who I haven’t read in a while but who I found often convincing, sometimes incisive.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency

    You’ve written several comments in this vein, regarding our current practice of looting the country to prop up urban cities. Any blog or book recommendations?
     
    Sorry about the long reply. What you're getting below is a few book references and a research methodology. Hope it helps.

    The only book I've seen that describes this is the one I've recommended previously [1].

    I'm gifted with what Dutton calls a "Genius personality" [0], which in big 5 means:
    C: low conscientiousness in routine tasks. If I don't see a reason for it, I usually won't do it.
    A: Low agreeableness, polite, but willing to disagree.
    N: Low neuroticism (low fear, stable as granite).
    O: High openness (to new concepts)
    E: Low extroversion. More interested in concepts than people.

    Unfortunately, I don't have the 160 IQ needed to make a real genius, so I sort of wander around turning over rocks. While quite a few of them have been in in engineering and computer systems, I'm also interested in social matters. I'm _particularly_ interested in why the casualty rate among the people I do know has been so high. The more education and the more service to community, the higher the casualty rate has been, and I've been hard put at times to escape becoming a casualty myself. At the same time, I've had an inside seat or been a participant in quite a few of the more significant events of the past 60 years or so.

    One of the things I've had forced upon me is that the formal goals of an organization are seldom its real goals. NASA, fo example, has a formal statement of purpose. That purpose has been whatever the Federal government assigned it, such as "establishing better relations with the USSR" and "Establishing better relations with the Islamic world". If you hear senior NASA officials griping about their jobs, the purpose of NASA is to get enough funding to meet payroll and let them progress through their careers [1]. None of this has anything to do with space travel, nor did it ever. JFK wanted a "stunt" to counter Sputnik, and to do that he dismantled a very effective USAF high altitude / space vehicle program and created NASA. Kennedy's intent was to shut down NASA after the "stunt", but lobbyists and US public opinion kept it open. NASA was actually the _end_ of a space program, not the start of one. NASA was (and is) public relations. This is more or less public knowledge among those who work or worked with it, and is fairly well documented [2,3].

    The above sort of thing also a typical sort of thing [4]. Most of the important things in life are (a) obvious once you see them, (b) not mentioned in the media, and (c) guaranteed to make people very angry once stated, but thanks to the "genius personality", I don’t really care that much. I’d rather have people upset with me than get hit by a phenomenon that’s obviously dangerous.
    One of the things that I've had forced upon me is that (a) prior to the 1950s Western capitals lived off of tax money, but after about 1970 all the American cities (and apparently all Western cities) either live off tax money, or they don’t live. Also, even today’s most successful cities are very poor compared to their past (e.g. LA, New York) [5], and appear to believe that the poor are their most important citizens.
    One can sometimes understand what’s happening by simply listening to what the people in charge are saying. They use a different word definition, but they have to make sense to their own people. The poor, the CATO4321 people [6] -_are_ vital parts of the city’s funding. Assuming 10^5 (that’s 100,000) $/(homeless person *year) cost for homeless, and 3.6*10^4 ( that’s 36,000) homeless in LA, we get 3.6*10^(5+4) = 3.6*10^9, or about 3.6 billion $/year _tax revenues for LA_. There’s money in poverty. The homeless are an important source of revenue that supports headcount and stimulates secondary taxes that can be used on deteriorating infrastructure. You see how this works. You can also see that this is killing the homeless, and that nobody in this 3.6 billion $/yr. revenue stream cares enough to take chances with the revenue stream. They don’t dare – the cities are poor and need money. I’ve met several former Civil Service employees who now drive cabs in the DC area, and if the revenue stream dried up, some city workers would find themselves competing with other Lyft drivers.
    So, yes, you can _see_ that the cities are poor and that the cities depend on tax money once the idea is introduced. I’ve just been giving an historical background for the phenomenon.
    However – I can’t do much more than the above without funding, which is not available. This is _not_ a plea for funding, just a statement of fact. So far, I’ve had three major (and several minor) research results suppressed, and I can recognize the situation. If you want to run with the idea, you might be able to do so, but be warned that the idea that “the cities are parasites and have been your entire life” isn’t going to make anybody in the cities or suburbs happy with you.
    Why am I here? Well, I’m interested in discussing the various ideas so that I can find weak points in my reasoning and observation. I recognize that quite a few plausible hypotheses are falsified by new data, so I’m looking for new data. My idea is to spot real hazards to be avoided, not to imagine hazards.
    I’m also trying to keep readers from being hurt. I’ve seen way too many people get hurt, I _really_ don’t want to see any more.
    Counterinsurgency

    0] Edward Dutton.
    "The Genius Famine"
    Search Amazon.com for Kindle book.
    You don't hear the word "Genius" anymore, and there is a rather strange reason.
    1] Marc Levinson.
    _The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger_.
    1st ed 2006; 2nd ed. has additional material.
    2] Marc Logsdon.
    _The Decision to Go to the Moon: Project Apollo and the National Interest_.
    1st ed. 1970, out of print but available from used book sources. See description in Amazon.com

    3] Walter Froelhich.
    _Space Station: The Next Logical Step NASA_.
    1987.
    Note that this book never gives any use for the space station, merely saying that it is necessary because it is “the next logical step”. This is the ideal bureaucratic argument – plausible, and a single sentence – but meant that the original space station design failed, as did the original space station implementation.

    4] In the past cities build infrastructure that these same cities cannot even keep in repair today. This extends to public health (on the West Coast) and the electrical grid (NYC, Baltimore). This poverty is spreading to entire states: consider California’s inability to institute controlled burns in its forests and the decline of PG&E’s physical infrastructure.

    5] Policy towards soldiers and veterans during the Vietnam War was conditioned by the political influence of returning veterans in WW II and the Korean war. Previously, the veterans had organized into political lobbies. The Democrats decided to avoid creating rivals drafting kids, using individual rotation, and demonizing troops upon their return from duty. They did, and it worked – no politically effective veterans’ groups outside of those supported by a Democratic faction. Of course, the sheer horror of the policy led to the gradual erosion of White support for the Democrats and their eventual policy of flooding the US with POC, but the Democrats have never been known for thinking things out.

    6] CATO4321, also “homeless”: Crazy 40%, Addicted 30%, Thinkers 20%, 0 assets/income 10%. The “Thinkers” are people who choose to live in the for whatever reason, good or bad.
  196. @syonredux

    “They’ll have 11 year old drag queens”

    Would this be US or Afghan influence? At least the Afghans don’t poison and physically deform them with chemical hormones.
     
    Give 'em time. The Iranians are fully on board with World War T:

    Before the Islamic Revolution in 1979, the issue of trans identity in Iran had never been officially addressed by the government. Beginning in the mid-1980s, however, transgender individuals were officially recognized by the government and allowed to undergo sex reassignment surgery. As of 2008, Iran carries out more sex change operations than any other nation in the world except Thailand. The government provides up to half the cost for those needing financial assistance, and a sex change is recognized on the birth certificate.[1] As of 2017, the government provided transgender persons financial assistance in the form of grants of up to 25 million tomans ($1,730 USD).
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_Iran

    That’s some crazy shit, is that true? The wiki article is very thorough, enjoyed the chart.

  197. @Anon

    I never heard of any of these people before today
     
    Um, you haven't? This video came out what, 4 months ago, and has had over 2.5 million views?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5iv6sECGU

    Cliff Notes for Clueless Boomers (CB's): Saikat Chakrabarti is actually more influential than AOC. She is just the public face. Chakrabarti's group, the Justice Democrats, are hardcore Marxists whose sole intention is to undermine the US government and foment a communist revolution. AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and one more were elected because they responded to a casting call from the Justice Democrats. Prior to that, AOC had no interest in politics. She is an actor. That's why she looks like a complete fool when she goes away from her scripted talking points.

    Chakrabarti and AOC were also involved in a huge campaign funds embezzlement scandal a few months ago. God I can't do all the work for you guys!!

    He must be the reason Bernie Sanders dropped his pro-American worker / anti-open borders stance

  198. @Anon7
    This activity that democrats are engaged in, it's like a grinder pitting everyone against everyone. She’s black, but he’s gay - who wins? Xir is trans, but the opponent is an illegal woman single mother - who wins?

    We’re all fascinated with the process, and we’re wondering who the ultimate winner will be, and what are the rules and what’s the winning strategy. It’s a male thing to do.

    I’m wondering if grinding everyone down is the goal, and maybe we should be wondering who’s holding the grinder.

    It is reminiscent of Trotsky’s perpetual revolution. If that is correct, then eternal grinding is what we get. Peaceful relations between groups would break the bonds of the Krazy glue.

    A childless, blue haired Anglo Saxon feminist from Massachusetts hold it.

  199. @Dave Pinsen

    Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?
     
    The Germans and Japanese would have been far more brutal in suppressing them. In the case of the Germans, Hitler told Lord Halifax in 1937 how he'd handle India:

    Shoot Gandhi! If that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress, and if that does not suffice, shoot 200 and so on until order is established.
     

    Many users have pointed out that the Germans and Japanese were tougher than the English, and Gandhi’s tactics would not have worked with them or the Japanese.

    I simply point to the fact that India was too populous and too far away from Germany or Japan for either to effectively colonize it at the conclusion of WW2 had they been on the winning side. The Germans were notorious for not being able to keep their forces properly supplied. They never developed the type of logistical system that the US did.

    What the US did in supplying its own forces and those of its allies, across the two largest oceans and in multiple fronts was truly something to behold. Germany or Japan were not remotely close to having that capability in WW2. Additionally, even if they had won, they would have been licking their wounds and trying to consolidate their gains around their own nations. They would not have been in position to colonize India.

    India at that time had over 350 million people. If the Indians had gotten a taste of freedom with the departure of the Brits, why would they have sat back for either the Germans or the Japanese? If 350 million people don’t want to be ruled by foreigners, they won’t. How the British were able to do it as long as they did is something I don’t have an answer for. But once it became clear the Indians did not want British rule, even the British knew the time was up. There were just too many people to control.

    Others have pointed to Japan’s conquest of part of China. And of course China had even more people than India. But Japan would never have been able to hold on to that possession. There were just too many Chinese, and there were millions of them under arms with either Mao or Chiang Kai Shek. Despite killing millions of Chinese, those forces were growing and the Japanese would simply have not been able to hold on to its conquered Chinese territory long term.

    By the time of WW2 colonialism was fading and colonized peoples were no longer willing to be colonized. Just look at what happened to the victors after WW2. The French, Brits and other Euros all eventually lost their colonies because the cost of keeping them became too great. Had the Germans or Japanese won, that same growing resistance to colonialism would have been present as well. Other than weaker nations in their near abroad, I just don’t see them being able to takeover giants like India or China.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    We learned well from the mistakes of Britain and Japan. Our ingenious solution is to invert the process and invite the Indians and Chinese to colonize our country.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    The decline of colonialism post-World War II had a lot to do with pressure from the U.S. and the Soviet Union, both of which wouldn't have been factors had the Axis won the war. The U.S. pressured the Netherlands to abandon its Southeast Asian colonies, it cut Britain and France off at the knees during the Suez crisis, etc. And the Soviets funded and armed anti-colonial revolts against the Portuguese and the French in Africa.
    , @nebulafox
    Part of the reason Hitler seems so anachronistic to observers is because his war against the USSR was, at heart, an old-style 18th/19th Century style colonial war of conquest. Crusade against Bolshevism it might have been, but in the peculiarly dual character Barbarossa took, it was the colonial impetus-and here, Hitler shows his link with the bygone 19th Century-that really drove it. The only difference was that the target was an old European power: and the scale of destruction enabled by modern technology and ideology was far greater than any comparable enterprise. The Nazis also did not understand the intricate bureaucracy and, even more vitally, the cooperation with local elites that enabled British rule in India under the surface.

    Hitler's own favored analogy on what he intended for the Russians, Ukrainians, et all, was how the United States dealt with the natives. The Jews were thought of as too much of a threat (essentially akin to negative Ubermenschen) to the new order of things to be given this treatment, so they were to be exterminated preemptively.

  200. Anon[328] • Disclaimer says:

    OT via Marginal Revolution: A conference presentation on high IQ, years of education, autism, and mental illness. Some weird results, including that the more education, the crazier you are, but the higher your IQ, the more sane you are. Also some stuff about autism maybe not being one thing (Plomin discussed this also). Also mentions what Plomin calls “nature of nurture,” genetics controlling environment, which inflates genetic tendencies.

    https://twitter.com/Russwarne/status/1149067917713190912 (scroll up to beginning)

    Hints of wrongspeak: many of the genes identified for educational attainment have functions related to building the brain (so post-conception, post-birth, school-related programs cannot change, presumably).

    Here’s one of the tweets: “HUGE IMPLICATION: partial causes of differences in educational attainment as an adult occur BEFORE PEOPLE ARE BORN. Mind. Blown.” He also notes that post-birth Flowers for Algernon treatments wouldn’t work.

    Another quote: “Lee: Some of the same genes that increase head size also increase IQ, though not necessarily vice-versa (Lee, Iacono, Michael, & Chabris, 2019). Sir Francis Galton is smirking because this vindicates his claim that head size would be a manifestation of high intelligence.”

    A response to his tweet: “There’s a couple of men in the supportive housing program I work with that have teeny heads and are particularly stupid.”

  201. @The Alarmist
    Too many normal folk run in fear from the Coalition when they go on the attack. Reminds me of a scene from Life of Brian.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUHk2RSMCS8

    Good analogy. Cowering at being called a racist/ sexist/ homophobe/ bigot and genuflecting wilding to prove it wrong is the exact wrong response. The GOP should Act like a gnat is buzzing around their ears and walk away shrugging.

  202. “If 350 million people don’t want to be ruled by foreigners, they won’t.”

    I guess Americans must want to be ruled by foreigners then.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    But if the foreigners work hard to pass themselves off as Americans of a sort?
  203. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Surprisingly, Representative Sharice Davids is probably better than her Republican predecessor, Kevin Yoder, who served as the foremost quintessential big-business shill for unlimited immigration!

    Sharice Davids, the American Indian, defeated Kevin Yoder, the congressman for India.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    istevefan:

    I first became acquainted with Yoder because of his being the point man for unlimited Indian displacement of American workers!
  204. @syonredux

    OT – In regards to immigration, I found this 7 year old article which had been used by opponents of a hard border to argue that immigration from Mexico was essentially over so we no longer needed a hard barrier.
     
    Which still leaves us with millions of Hondurans, El Salvadorans, Guatemalans, ......Not to mention how Black Africans are now starting to use the Southern border as their route of entry.....

    Which still leaves us with millions of Hondurans, El Salvadorans, Guatemalans, ……Not to mention how Black Africans are now starting to use the Southern border as their route of entry…..

    32 million live in Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala. I hear at 20% of those nations already live here and at least 800,000 have been scamming their way across our border, gaining entry via lying ass asylum claims and other means. Many of these Central American border jumpers are women w children. Indian and half Indian women in their prime reproductive years. The nations that the colonialist Spanish effed up… They all want to come here.

    One African I read about flew into Quito, Ecuador, took a few months to work her way northward. She was in her 8th month of pregnancy as she got very close to the US/Mexico border. You know she aims to be in the USA when she gives birth.

  205. Anonymous[331] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux

    The Germans and Japanese would have been far more brutal in suppressing them. In the case of the Germans, Hitler told Lord Halifax in 1937 how he’d handle India:

    Shoot Gandhi! If that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress, and if that does not suffice, shoot 200 and so on until order is established.
     
    Indeed. As Orwell noted, Gandhi's "passive resistance" depended on the enemy having certain scruples.....But, when faced with a different sort of opponent.....

    It is difficult to see how Gandhi’s methods could be applied in a country where opponents of the regime disappear in the middle of the night and are never heard of again. Without a free press and the right of assembly, it is impossible not merely to appeal to outside opinion, but to bring a mass movement into being, or even to make your intentions known to your adversary. Is there a Gandhi in Russia at this moment? And if there is, what is he accomplishing? The Russian masses could only practise civil disobedience if the same idea happened to occur to all of them simultaneously, and even then, to judge by the history of the Ukraine famine, it would make no difference.
     
    https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/reflections-on-gandhi/

    Read Harry turtledove’s sci-fi short story
    “The Last Article” on how the Germans would
    Have handled India and Ghandi!

  206. This is why we always lose. The point is not if India could have retained independence from the Man in the High Castle. That’s dewaponized autusm.

    The point is that chief of staff and main money man for the most famous Congresscritter is a weird foreigner with a hard on for an even weirder icky foreigner. Nazis for Brown people really. That’s beyond Che t shirt stupid. At least Che had great lines in the Andrew Lloyd Weber musical. This is Springtime for Hitler in real life.

    That’s where we are at. Weirdo foreigners with weird heroes deciding our future.

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
    You would know weird and icky best Whiskey.
  207. @Lot
    “They’ll have 11 year old drag queens”

    Would this be US or Afghan influence? At least the Afghans don’t poison and physically deform them with chemical hormones.

    https://thenewsrep.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/bacha-bazi-the-dancing-boys-of-afghanistan-2.jpg

    “They’ll have 11 year old drag queens”

    Would this be US or Afghan influence? At least the Afghans don’t poison and physically deform them with chemical hormones.

    Cross-dressed young boys and male pedophilia have been a feature of various tribal Afghan sub-cultures for centuries. The British reported it in the 19th century, and our military worked hard to look the other way when we invaded in 2001 and needed the help of friendly locals.

    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-army/2017/11/17/dod-ig-us-troops-were-told-to-ignore-child-sex-abuse-by-afghan-forces/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

  208. Anonymous[171] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    All the famous Indian nationalists wanted the British out of India, but only Bose, AFAIK, allied himself with Hitler, and, later, Tojo. Morality aside, this was dumb for two reasons. Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British. And second, Bose stuck with the Axis when it was obvious they were losing the war.

    Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent

    What makes you think this? It’s likely the victorious Japanese would be too busy in China, and the Germans in Russia, to menace Indian independence.

    Anyway, India was becoming ungovernable by 1942, and the British had to cut a deal with Gandhi to maintain order. It was clear they were on their way out no matter how the war ended.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    What makes you think this? It’s likely the victorious Japanese would be too busy in China
     
    The Japanese weren't too busy with China to invade India in World War II as it was.
    , @Dr Van Nostrand
    Except the British still didn't wish to leave even as they were flat ass broke and holding on to India was now an asset than a liability. Try explaining that to the imperialist mouth breather Churchill.

    Two things forced Britain out if India

    1. The naval mutiny of 1946 showed that Indians were no longer available to oppress other Indians. For the time being anyway Indians overcame their differences due to a surging national consciousness and divide et impera had run it's course. Bose's adventures and sacrifice inspired the majority of armed forces in India even as his somewhat Quixotic plans didn't materialize

    2. Americans of then unlike today didn't believe in singing praises if the empire. Both parties loathed the imperial project and were no longer willing the delusions of a crippled power like Britain post WWII.

    Gandhi had nothing to do with India's independence.
  209. @syonredux

    “They’ll have 11 year old drag queens”

    Would this be US or Afghan influence? At least the Afghans don’t poison and physically deform them with chemical hormones.
     
    Give 'em time. The Iranians are fully on board with World War T:

    Before the Islamic Revolution in 1979, the issue of trans identity in Iran had never been officially addressed by the government. Beginning in the mid-1980s, however, transgender individuals were officially recognized by the government and allowed to undergo sex reassignment surgery. As of 2008, Iran carries out more sex change operations than any other nation in the world except Thailand. The government provides up to half the cost for those needing financial assistance, and a sex change is recognized on the birth certificate.[1] As of 2017, the government provided transgender persons financial assistance in the form of grants of up to 25 million tomans ($1,730 USD).
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_Iran

    Yeah but they use it as a cure for homosexuality, not because they are onboard with the LGBTQIA agenda lmao

  210. @istevefan
    Many users have pointed out that the Germans and Japanese were tougher than the English, and Gandhi's tactics would not have worked with them or the Japanese.

    I simply point to the fact that India was too populous and too far away from Germany or Japan for either to effectively colonize it at the conclusion of WW2 had they been on the winning side. The Germans were notorious for not being able to keep their forces properly supplied. They never developed the type of logistical system that the US did.

    What the US did in supplying its own forces and those of its allies, across the two largest oceans and in multiple fronts was truly something to behold. Germany or Japan were not remotely close to having that capability in WW2. Additionally, even if they had won, they would have been licking their wounds and trying to consolidate their gains around their own nations. They would not have been in position to colonize India.

    India at that time had over 350 million people. If the Indians had gotten a taste of freedom with the departure of the Brits, why would they have sat back for either the Germans or the Japanese? If 350 million people don't want to be ruled by foreigners, they won't. How the British were able to do it as long as they did is something I don't have an answer for. But once it became clear the Indians did not want British rule, even the British knew the time was up. There were just too many people to control.

    Others have pointed to Japan's conquest of part of China. And of course China had even more people than India. But Japan would never have been able to hold on to that possession. There were just too many Chinese, and there were millions of them under arms with either Mao or Chiang Kai Shek. Despite killing millions of Chinese, those forces were growing and the Japanese would simply have not been able to hold on to its conquered Chinese territory long term.

    By the time of WW2 colonialism was fading and colonized peoples were no longer willing to be colonized. Just look at what happened to the victors after WW2. The French, Brits and other Euros all eventually lost their colonies because the cost of keeping them became too great. Had the Germans or Japanese won, that same growing resistance to colonialism would have been present as well. Other than weaker nations in their near abroad, I just don't see them being able to takeover giants like India or China.

    We learned well from the mistakes of Britain and Japan. Our ingenious solution is to invert the process and invite the Indians and Chinese to colonize our country.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    Yes, that's the second point in Sailer's law, invite the world.
  211. Anonymous[171] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fidelios Automata
    The British Raj was the best thing that ever happened to India. They should be sending reparations to the UK for all the infrastructure and advancements the British gave the country -- as well as making the nation of India possible in the first place.

    India is what the U.S. would look like today if the Revolution had failed, and the U.S. is what India would look like today if the British had been successfully ejected in 1857.

    • Replies: @Bill

    India is what the U.S. would look like today if the Revolution had failed
     
    India, Canada, one of those places.
    , @Lurker
    Yeah right. So what about Canada?
  212. “And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis? Is that some Black Woman of Color thing like snapping your fingers, [like] making the shape of a Z was back during [the] “In Living Color” era?”

    A commenter has already explained the brown hands clapping emojis (Thank you, PennTohal, at comment #7).

    The “making the shape of a Z” refers to the Disney TV show “Zorro” in the early days of color TV. The intro is shown below. Note that Zorro carves a Z in his victims’ clothing, but unfortunately he is dyslexic: his dashing Z-carving motion a 0:10 leaves not a Z but a reverse Z. Also, the intro song says that “Zorro” is not the name of the heroic alter-ego of the aristocrat Don Diego de la Vega, but of his horse. Zorro, fighting dyslexia in Southern California since 1798.

  213. @Dave Pinsen
    Bose did more than meet with Hitler, though Gandhi himself was naive about Hitler. If we continue to import Indian elites, we’re going to have to adjust to India’s slightly different moral alignment though.

    For example, consider my Twitter correspondent here.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1149947526621147137?s=21

    It’s not Bose’s concern to liberate Europe. Churchill to him was Hitler who oversaw the deaths of millions of his country men. Enemy’s enemy and all that. Same deal with the Irish who stayed out.
    Only a cuck would insist for fighting for a guy who slaughtered his people.

  214. OT
    PICTURED: West Side Story remake begins filming in Harlem as director Steven Spielberg is seen shooting iconic Jet Song https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7244431/Steven-Spielberg-starts-shooting-West-Story-Harlem.html

  215. @syonredux

    The Germans and Japanese would have been far more brutal in suppressing them. In the case of the Germans, Hitler told Lord Halifax in 1937 how he’d handle India:

    Shoot Gandhi! If that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress, and if that does not suffice, shoot 200 and so on until order is established.
     
    Indeed. As Orwell noted, Gandhi's "passive resistance" depended on the enemy having certain scruples.....But, when faced with a different sort of opponent.....

    It is difficult to see how Gandhi’s methods could be applied in a country where opponents of the regime disappear in the middle of the night and are never heard of again. Without a free press and the right of assembly, it is impossible not merely to appeal to outside opinion, but to bring a mass movement into being, or even to make your intentions known to your adversary. Is there a Gandhi in Russia at this moment? And if there is, what is he accomplishing? The Russian masses could only practise civil disobedience if the same idea happened to occur to all of them simultaneously, and even then, to judge by the history of the Ukraine famine, it would make no difference.
     
    https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/reflections-on-gandhi/

    “Indeed. As Orwell noted, Gandhi’s “passive resistance” depended on the enemy having certain scruples…..But, when faced with a different sort of opponent…..”

    Lol. Brits saw Gandhi as a useful idiot. The Brits had absolutely no scruples or honor and had more tricks than a whore. Why would they should Gandhi when he actively recruited Indian cannon fodder for them in WWI and WWII?

  216. @Dave Pinsen

    Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?
     
    The Germans and Japanese would have been far more brutal in suppressing them. In the case of the Germans, Hitler told Lord Halifax in 1937 how he'd handle India:

    Shoot Gandhi! If that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress, and if that does not suffice, shoot 200 and so on until order is established.
     

    It seems you are quite ignorant of Indian history. Read up on the famines and slaughters courtesy of the British in the 1800s. Quite in the league of the tentacle porn enthusiasts and scheisa video afficianados. Gandhi was controlled opposition. And nothing more.

  217. @Neil Templeton
    We learned well from the mistakes of Britain and Japan. Our ingenious solution is to invert the process and invite the Indians and Chinese to colonize our country.

    Yes, that’s the second point in Sailer’s law, invite the world.

  218. @Laurent
    Saikat Chakrabarti - what caste is this bloke a member of? Varna? Jati?

    Chakrabarti or chakrabarti is usually Brahmin.

  219. @Whiskey
    Chakrabarti is the money conduit for Qatari read Iranian and Soros money to create a hard anti White ruling class in the US.

    Instead of the soft one now. This is the natural and inevitable result of the new hereditary New Class allying itself with foreign weirdo elites.

    Like Chakrabarti. He's a foreign weirdo.

    Schumer and Pelosi and the rest are toast. The tidal wave of foreign money to get influence over Team America World Police dwarfs even the Clintons Global Initiative.

    What a give away name btw.

    The US will be run by weirdo icky foreigners and screaming angry Women of Color. I know are there any other types of Women of color?

    We have neither the money nor skills nor organization nor numbers of people nor great leaders nor street fighting brutality to stop this. Victory is not even possible.

    Survival is possible and it is our duty to preserve some pitiful small fragment of ourselves as we endure 4 billion third world people moving here and taking everything so that in the vast mass of non Whites some memory of our people survives.

    Dude you don’t help your cause. Anyway I thought you died.

  220. @Anon
    Nonsense. Gandhi’s strategy could only have worked against “fair play” and Christian types like the Brits. Against Adolf it would be like that priest who gets vaporized in the first War of the Worlds. Judge that how you will.

    German colonial record in places like Togoland or whatever is far less cruel than the British.

  221. @istevefan
    Many users have pointed out that the Germans and Japanese were tougher than the English, and Gandhi's tactics would not have worked with them or the Japanese.

    I simply point to the fact that India was too populous and too far away from Germany or Japan for either to effectively colonize it at the conclusion of WW2 had they been on the winning side. The Germans were notorious for not being able to keep their forces properly supplied. They never developed the type of logistical system that the US did.

    What the US did in supplying its own forces and those of its allies, across the two largest oceans and in multiple fronts was truly something to behold. Germany or Japan were not remotely close to having that capability in WW2. Additionally, even if they had won, they would have been licking their wounds and trying to consolidate their gains around their own nations. They would not have been in position to colonize India.

    India at that time had over 350 million people. If the Indians had gotten a taste of freedom with the departure of the Brits, why would they have sat back for either the Germans or the Japanese? If 350 million people don't want to be ruled by foreigners, they won't. How the British were able to do it as long as they did is something I don't have an answer for. But once it became clear the Indians did not want British rule, even the British knew the time was up. There were just too many people to control.

    Others have pointed to Japan's conquest of part of China. And of course China had even more people than India. But Japan would never have been able to hold on to that possession. There were just too many Chinese, and there were millions of them under arms with either Mao or Chiang Kai Shek. Despite killing millions of Chinese, those forces were growing and the Japanese would simply have not been able to hold on to its conquered Chinese territory long term.

    By the time of WW2 colonialism was fading and colonized peoples were no longer willing to be colonized. Just look at what happened to the victors after WW2. The French, Brits and other Euros all eventually lost their colonies because the cost of keeping them became too great. Had the Germans or Japanese won, that same growing resistance to colonialism would have been present as well. Other than weaker nations in their near abroad, I just don't see them being able to takeover giants like India or China.

    The decline of colonialism post-World War II had a lot to do with pressure from the U.S. and the Soviet Union, both of which wouldn’t have been factors had the Axis won the war. The U.S. pressured the Netherlands to abandon its Southeast Asian colonies, it cut Britain and France off at the knees during the Suez crisis, etc. And the Soviets funded and armed anti-colonial revolts against the Portuguese and the French in Africa.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    The anti-Communists in those countries were largely in error in their threat perceptions: the real enemy was always in Washington, not Moscow.
  222. @Anonymous

    Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent
     
    What makes you think this? It's likely the victorious Japanese would be too busy in China, and the Germans in Russia, to menace Indian independence.

    Anyway, India was becoming ungovernable by 1942, and the British had to cut a deal with Gandhi to maintain order. It was clear they were on their way out no matter how the war ended.

    What makes you think this? It’s likely the victorious Japanese would be too busy in China

    The Japanese weren’t too busy with China to invade India in World War II as it was.

  223. @Reg Cæsar
    Sharice Davids = I dish cadavers.

    Saikat Chakrabarti = A basic khaki Tartar.

    Hakeem Jeffries = Safe if he jerk me.

    Nicely done.

  224. @S. Anonyia
    Don't know much about Jeffries- but speaking of black power Muslims......I've noticed a lot of black power Muslims and Hoteps (tons of the latter around here, they larp as both Ancient Egyptians AND Muslims) have completely bizarre beliefs but are actually relatively pleasant, conservative people who usually have intact middle/lower middle class families.

    Bizarre beliefs but pleasant personally? Sounds kind of like Mormons…

  225. @Anonymous

    Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent
     
    What makes you think this? It's likely the victorious Japanese would be too busy in China, and the Germans in Russia, to menace Indian independence.

    Anyway, India was becoming ungovernable by 1942, and the British had to cut a deal with Gandhi to maintain order. It was clear they were on their way out no matter how the war ended.

    Except the British still didn’t wish to leave even as they were flat ass broke and holding on to India was now an asset than a liability. Try explaining that to the imperialist mouth breather Churchill.

    Two things forced Britain out if India

    1. The naval mutiny of 1946 showed that Indians were no longer available to oppress other Indians. For the time being anyway Indians overcame their differences due to a surging national consciousness and divide et impera had run it’s course. Bose’s adventures and sacrifice inspired the majority of armed forces in India even as his somewhat Quixotic plans didn’t materialize

    2. Americans of then unlike today didn’t believe in singing praises if the empire. Both parties loathed the imperial project and were no longer willing the delusions of a crippled power like Britain post WWII.

    Gandhi had nothing to do with India’s independence.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    You have all of this backwards. The 1946 mutiny was a gift to the 'die-hard' imperialists because it seemed to confirm what they always claimed - that the Indian independence movement was a communist front operation, and that 'independent' India would be a Russian puppet.

    And the prospect of a Communist take-over in India was the one thing that would have ensured American support for continued British rule in India.
  226. @Dave Pinsen
    The decline of colonialism post-World War II had a lot to do with pressure from the U.S. and the Soviet Union, both of which wouldn't have been factors had the Axis won the war. The U.S. pressured the Netherlands to abandon its Southeast Asian colonies, it cut Britain and France off at the knees during the Suez crisis, etc. And the Soviets funded and armed anti-colonial revolts against the Portuguese and the French in Africa.

    The anti-Communists in those countries were largely in error in their threat perceptions: the real enemy was always in Washington, not Moscow.

  227. @Anon
    “Her name is Congresswoman Davids”

    And his name is Seth Rich.

    And the media is dutifully keeping his name out of their collective mouths.

  228. @Whiskey
    Chakrabarti is the money conduit for Qatari read Iranian and Soros money to create a hard anti White ruling class in the US.

    Instead of the soft one now. This is the natural and inevitable result of the new hereditary New Class allying itself with foreign weirdo elites.

    Like Chakrabarti. He's a foreign weirdo.

    Schumer and Pelosi and the rest are toast. The tidal wave of foreign money to get influence over Team America World Police dwarfs even the Clintons Global Initiative.

    What a give away name btw.

    The US will be run by weirdo icky foreigners and screaming angry Women of Color. I know are there any other types of Women of color?

    We have neither the money nor skills nor organization nor numbers of people nor great leaders nor street fighting brutality to stop this. Victory is not even possible.

    Survival is possible and it is our duty to preserve some pitiful small fragment of ourselves as we endure 4 billion third world people moving here and taking everything so that in the vast mass of non Whites some memory of our people survives.

    Pelosi’s 2020 primary challenger, Paki born Shahid Buttar “Resistance for Real.”

    https://shahidforchange.us/

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
    He looks like Sundar Pichai's long lost Mullah twin.
  229. @Dr Van Nostrand
    German colonial record in places like Togoland or whatever is far less cruel than the British.
  230. Anon[108] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?

    I'm lost.

    I remember setting a post by a linguistics Ph.D. Working for a data science company in which she analyzed a huge database of tweets to determine which was the most prevalent clap format: between each word, after each word, before each word, or before and after the sentence and between each word in the sentence. I wonder what her next project will be? Assigning a wokeness quotient to each tweet and correlating the clap pattern with the wokeness?

  231. OT —- Look who is running the Ford Foundation. A fawning piece from the NY Times.

    Darren Walker, a gay black man from Texas in a realm created by old-money elites, is the connector of connectors. In a new Gilded Age, he believes that wealth can be made to do more good.

    In 2015, he wrote an essay called “Toward a New Gospel of Wealth,” calling out “a system that perpetuates vast differences in privilege and then tasks the privileged with improving the system” — foxes minding the henhouse. The old gospel of wealth, as articulated by Andrew Carnegie in 1889, took inequality as a mark of progress, and called for its winners to give back in charity. Mr. Walker argued that this formula no longer worked.

    At Ford, he made changes. He sold the foundation’s blue chip art collection and used the money to buy 320 newer works, many by female artists or artists of color. He integrated two sides of Ford’s work: its support for the arts and its grants for social justice. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/nyregion/darren-walker-ford-foundation.html

  232. Anon[324] • Disclaimer says:

    Clap tweet format analysis here:

    https://makingnoiseandhearingthings.com/2017/07/13/where-👏-do-👏-the-👏-claps-👏-go-👏-when-👏-you-👏-write-👏-like-👏-this-👏/

    Ron’s filtering may screw up the URL, which contains Unicode glyphs.

    Boy, is there a lot of interest in this stuff from”academics.” I guess if you up and majored in an unwoke subject like linguistics or data science, this kind of topic lets you virtue signal that, Hey, I’m kinda woke too.

  233. @Altai
    In fairness they're trying to adapt to the medium. You see the same from companies on Twitter. They don't post like an organisation, they post like an individual. It's the best way to get eyeballs on what you're posting. Now they've tailored the message to permeate through the heavy Twitter user networks.

    It's become a more popular approach that many entities are taking on Twitter to drive 'engagement'. It all seems to have started with the Wendy's Twitter account.

    It probably predates Wendy’s, but I see your point. Still, I think the US House Democratic Caucus should be above that. I guess that ship has sailed

  234. Um, why is blood splattering out between the brown hands clapping emojis??

  235. @Steve Sailer
    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?

    I'm lost.

    It’s just for emphasis. That’s all.

  236. @Kyle
    Feather indians versus .indians, who wins the race to the bottom of the totem pole?

    Feather Indians have the upper hand in totem pole competitions.

  237. @Mr. Blank
    Would someone kindly explain to me why South Asians seem so heavily overrepresented among the ranks of SJW cultural enforcers? Why do they all seem to aspire to be the Woke Joseph Goebbels?

    It’s becoming really, really tiresome. Anti-semites are forever putting (((echoes))) around the names of Jews, but personally I’m more struck by the fact that every time I read an article or see a book or a video clip of someone lecturing me about how I’m both a bad person and a bad American, it’s nearly always someone who’s barely off the boat from New Delhi. My roots stretch back to Colonial times and my ancestors fought in the American Revolution, but a guy named “Saikat Chakrabarti” wants to lecture ME about the proper way to be an American. The NERVE!

    Am I the only one who thinks this will end very badly, and is angry at our leaders for allowing this to happen? Sure, call me a “white nationalist” or whatever, if that makes you feel better. But can you point to a single society in human history where importing a highly visible foreign overclass to push around the natives hasn’t ended in a bloody disaster?

    The thing with the echoes is that it’s sometimes difficult to tell if a person is Jewish. Dot Indians are rather more conspicuous.

    • Replies: @Mr. Blank
    Exactly. Man, I can’t get over what a sensationally bad idea it is to make South Asians the standard-bearers for this stuff.

    Without getting into the weeds with the JQ, it’s one thing to have an ethnic overclass who are largely invisible to the majority. That, of course, is the point of the (((echoes))) — to mark those who might otherwise pass unnoticed.

    It’s another thing entirely when the ethnic overclass comes with (((echoes))) pre-installed on their names and faces. Anti-semites complain that Jewish influence has been deliberately hidden from the masses. Maybe so. But if you woke up tomorrow and every Jewish person had been replaced by a South Asian, it would be obvious to everyone and would be impossible to ignore. And the majority would not be happy about it.

    That kind of situation never, ever ends well. It’s appalling that our leaders are so naive about this stuff. They are toddlers playing with matches and dynamite who’ve never seen a Looney Tunes episode.
  238. @Tom Scarlett
    Suddenly, out of nowhere, a new competitor!
    "I RTed this in my personal capacity as a gay man who was bullied and beaten in high school."
    https://twitter.com/mikedebonis/status/1150055654507327489

    In my personal capacity? Usually that phrase indicates official or professional capacity, but why is the word “personal” in there? It’s kinda confusing.

  239. @Charles Pewitt
    Teddy Cruz Belongs To The Coalition Of The Canadian Cuckservatives

    Teddy Cruz should keep his phucking mouth shut tight like a bastard when it comes to Tennessee or Nathan Bedford Forrest.

    This Canadian pussy boy puke Teddy Cruz is now attacking the memory and sacred honor of General Nathan Bedford Forrest. If Canadian cuck boy Teddy Cruz saw Nathan Bedford Forrest on horseback galloping towards him while waving his sword at Teddy Cruz's fat face, you can be sure that Teddy Cruz would piss his pants.

    This rancid Republican Party turd Teddy Cruz pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and legalization(amnesty) for illegal alien invaders.

    Teddy Cruz once co-wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal with Paul Ryan that called for giving Obama full trade promotion authority to continue on with the negotiations for Obama's sovereignty-sapping, job-killing Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal scam.

    I hereby challenge snot-nosed punk Teddy Cruz to a 4 hour debate on Nathan Bedford Forrest and mass legal immigration and illegal immigration and trade deal scams and endless overseas war and American national identity and multiculturalism and any other damn thing that needs saying to this rat puke Teddy Cruz!

    I would rhetorically pound the stuffing out of globalizer coward boy Teddy Cruz in a debate!

    I call on the great people of Texas to immediately recall and replace the treasonous rat politician whore Teddy Cruz.

    https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1149798895955914753

    Canadians are like double-Yankees. Tory Yanks.

    I love how Cruz threw the Democratic Convention in there. Still pushin Dems R da Reel Racists!

    Forrest was one of if not the greatest military commander in U.S. history. Joining the KKK was an act of heroism. Later, that organization steeply declined in discipline and purpose.

    Also, he was creator of perhaps the wisest set of inspirational quotes outside the Bible:

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    NB Forrest and Ariel Sharon were pretty comparable guys.
    , @Dr Van Nostrand
    Forrest disavowed the Klan in later years and founded a college for black women and even shook their hands to the horror of white onlookers.
  240. @Marcus
    Yes, the great Forrest who failed at everything he attempted except selling slaves before the war :/

    Presumably all you’ve ever heard of the man is that he was a slave trader and on the losing side of the Civil War.

    Hey, did you know he had superiors in that war? Or that he also excelled at enterprises beyond slavery ? Or that he excelled at basically everything he did, beyond the wildest dreams of most every human being ever?

    • Replies: @gabriel alberton
    Searching for ''Nathan Bedford Forrest'' in my country's version of Google returns his Wikipedia article in my native language, which does not mention that he was a Confederate general in the lede, despite the Google search listing his Civil War battles and suggesting other Confederate generals as related searches. The infobox mentions he was a lieutenant general, and ''General Forrest'' is said to be referenced in the Forrest Gump film. No further details are given about his military service.

    What the Wikipedia article does mention in detail is that he was a slave trader, that he founded the Ku Klux Klan after the Civil War (in the article, excluding the references, that's the only mention of the American Civil War), and that his troops massacred black soldiers who had surrendered at Fort Pillow. The first thing after his name in the Google search is ''slave trader''. To someone who didn't know who he was, I imagine those omissions would look strange.

    The English Wikipedia does mention that he was a general in addition to being a slave trader and the founder of the KKK, as I imagine any proper reference to him does. It still omits, in the first paragraph of the lede, that white soldiers were also massacred at Fort Pillow, but does mention them later on.

    , @Marcus
    Thanks for the laugh. All his ventures failed except for the excellently named "Negro Mart." Also his testimony before Congress during the Klan investigation was a masterpiece of obfuscation and dissimulation
  241. Anon[181] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Blank
    Would someone kindly explain to me why South Asians seem so heavily overrepresented among the ranks of SJW cultural enforcers? Why do they all seem to aspire to be the Woke Joseph Goebbels?

    It’s becoming really, really tiresome. Anti-semites are forever putting (((echoes))) around the names of Jews, but personally I’m more struck by the fact that every time I read an article or see a book or a video clip of someone lecturing me about how I’m both a bad person and a bad American, it’s nearly always someone who’s barely off the boat from New Delhi. My roots stretch back to Colonial times and my ancestors fought in the American Revolution, but a guy named “Saikat Chakrabarti” wants to lecture ME about the proper way to be an American. The NERVE!

    Am I the only one who thinks this will end very badly, and is angry at our leaders for allowing this to happen? Sure, call me a “white nationalist” or whatever, if that makes you feel better. But can you point to a single society in human history where importing a highly visible foreign overclass to push around the natives hasn’t ended in a bloody disaster?

    Indians want to push into the US and take over because they know their own society is kaput. It’s going to hit demographic catastrophe pretty soon, and the Brahmans wants a bolt hole where they’ll be on top when millions of people start starving in India and go into a rage-filled ‘off with their heads’ scenario much like of the French Revolution, where the elites were exterminated for screwing up.

    It’s a caste thing. Brahmans cannot accept being lower-caste than a white, so they’re going to try to take over white countries. The US is easier than Britain, which has a hereditary elite because of its nobility.

  242. Allow me to add some further observations which I believe the iSteve Dept of Political Anthropology has overlooked so far.

    Regarding Saikat Chakrabarti:

    For most of the history of British India, the capital was Calcutta, in Bengal. Later Bengal was divided between Hindu and Muslim; the Muslim part became “East Pakistan” and ultimately Bangladesh, the Hindu part became the Indian state of West Bengal. And the national capital was now New Delhi.

    In independent India, for several decades, the state of West Bengal was governed by a coalition led by the Communist Party of India. And in general, it seems that Bengali political culture is known for its leftism. What I have observed, is that the Bengali diaspora also has leftist tendencies. I wrote about this previously.

    Regarding Sharice Davids:

    @HouseDemocrats describes her as a “Native American woman of color”, but if I am interpreting her Wiki bio correctly, she may actually be 3/4 white, 1/4 “colored”. This is also happening in Australia and Canada – numerous people who are mostly white racially and culturally, nonetheless claim the status of Australian Aboriginal, Native American, etc.

    Unfortunately I cannot find the original thread from Chakrabarti that started this, so I cannot tell if he might have singled out Davids for attention, when he accused the House Democrats of supporting racism, because she is so white.

    Regarding the big picture:

    (I feel I should first emphasize, I am Australian, not American, so these are the thoughts of an interested outsider.)

    Evidently this is another episode in the struggle for power between the Clinton and Sanders wings of the Democratic Party (aka the “corporate Democrats” and the “Justice Democrats”, as they say on The Young Turks). On the Sanders side, we have the brahmin ingenuity of Chakrabarti, drawing a parallel between the southern Democrats who opposed desegregation, and the corporate Democrats who oppose outright abolition of ICE. On the Clinton-Pelosi side, we have “populism of color”, with the emoji version of a street-level, finger-wagging demand to shut yo’ mouth, bitch (or however one would express that sentiment today).

    The intricacy of the ways in which race and racial identities are being used in this power struggle, is the way I imagine Indian caste politics must be. I could even claim that, just as Modi’s newly re-hinduized India is uniting under a single civilizational identity, the diversified America of Obama and Trump is splintering into a new caste system, in which intersectional identities are a factor in any political or social situation.

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand

    I could even claim that, just as Modi’s newly re-hinduized India is uniting under a single civilizational identity,
     
    Actually thats not true. Regional identities and sects are up in arms at the centralized upper casteist Brahmin trader mode of Hinduism espoused by the likes of Modi. A couple of years ago BJP had a serious loss of face in Kerala when they took the side of Vishnu against the beloved demigod Bali whom former banished to the netherworlds. Bali is a sort of mascot of Kerala and his outsider status manifests itself in the peculiar customs and social organization of Kerala which is at odds with mainstream Hinduism. BJP also ensured that their another beloved regional diety Ayyappa was compromised when the Supreme court ruled that girls of child bearing age could enter the temple who were hitherto forbidden. Same goes for Tamil Nadu which prizes bullfighting which BJP scoffs at.
    Both these state enjoy eating beef which is a nono in the North Indian brand of Hinduism.

    BJP indulged in these and many other gaffes and the Union is heading for the type of strain that gave rise to the Sikh and Kashmiri seperatist movement in the 1980s and 1990s.
  243. I don’t remember black girls clapping as a big deal in my youth. I have a suspicion it’s behavior they picked up from high school pep rallies and continued to use in their everyday life. A certain amount of black culture is just a tweaking of certain white customs.

  244. @guest
    Canadians are like double-Yankees. Tory Yanks.

    I love how Cruz threw the Democratic Convention in there. Still pushin Dems R da Reel Racists!

    Forrest was one of if not the greatest military commander in U.S. history. Joining the KKK was an act of heroism. Later, that organization steeply declined in discipline and purpose.

    Also, he was creator of perhaps the wisest set of inspirational quotes outside the Bible:

    https://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-no-damn-man-kills-me-and-lives-nathan-bedford-forrest-64134.jpg

    https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/3840x2160/1371033-Nathan-Bedford-Forrest-Quote-Attack-in-all-directions.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b7/f5/2e/b7f52e2b25364f35a6e82cc86faa149b--military-history-american-history.jpg

    NB Forrest and Ariel Sharon were pretty comparable guys.

    • Replies: @guest
    I can see that. War heroes. Accused war criminals. Defenders of ethnic interest (Southrons in America, Jews in Palestine).

    Sharon was a straight-talker, too:

    https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-every-time-we-do-something-you-tell-me-america-will-do-this-and-will-do-that-i-want-ariel-sharon-64-56-68.jpg
    , @Dr Van Nostrand
    Both were forces of nature who earned grudging respect from their enemies. Arabs were terrified of Sharon more than anyone else besides Shamir. Anwar Sadat made it a point to meet him in person when he visited Israel.
  245. Anonymous[171] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr Van Nostrand
    Except the British still didn't wish to leave even as they were flat ass broke and holding on to India was now an asset than a liability. Try explaining that to the imperialist mouth breather Churchill.

    Two things forced Britain out if India

    1. The naval mutiny of 1946 showed that Indians were no longer available to oppress other Indians. For the time being anyway Indians overcame their differences due to a surging national consciousness and divide et impera had run it's course. Bose's adventures and sacrifice inspired the majority of armed forces in India even as his somewhat Quixotic plans didn't materialize

    2. Americans of then unlike today didn't believe in singing praises if the empire. Both parties loathed the imperial project and were no longer willing the delusions of a crippled power like Britain post WWII.

    Gandhi had nothing to do with India's independence.

    You have all of this backwards. The 1946 mutiny was a gift to the ‘die-hard’ imperialists because it seemed to confirm what they always claimed – that the Indian independence movement was a communist front operation, and that ‘independent’ India would be a Russian puppet.

    And the prospect of a Communist take-over in India was the one thing that would have ensured American support for continued British rule in India.

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
    The mutiny may have been supported by the few communists in India but it had absolutely no Soviet backing whatsoever. It was a spontaneous nationalist assertion with no other ideology guiding it.

    There were however communists fighting against the state of Hyderabad, insisting on social reforms in Kerala and Bengal. Indian communists generally were AWOL in their fight against the British.

    Bose like FDR, Mussolini, Hitler et al was a socialist not a communist.
  246. @Steve Sailer
    NB Forrest and Ariel Sharon were pretty comparable guys.

    I can see that. War heroes. Accused war criminals. Defenders of ethnic interest (Southrons in America, Jews in Palestine).

    Sharon was a straight-talker, too:

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The finest light cavalry commanders of their generation. But you didn't want to surrender to them if you were infantry.
    , @Dr Van Nostrand
    That quote is BS. He never said that.
    , @Jack D
    This would be a very damning statement if it was true, but it's just an Islamic hoax:

    https://www.camera.org/article/florida-newspaper-publishes-hoax-quote-accusing-the-jewish-people-of-controlling-america/

    Islamists and other anti-Semites have a lot in common - they are both willing/eager to believe the worst about Jews without any regard for truth.
  247. @PennTothal
    A good visual primer for understanding "clapback":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa2nySiUDA0

    That’s really good, and explains a lot. Kevin Hart – hmmm…must check out.

  248. @Anonymous
    You have all of this backwards. The 1946 mutiny was a gift to the 'die-hard' imperialists because it seemed to confirm what they always claimed - that the Indian independence movement was a communist front operation, and that 'independent' India would be a Russian puppet.

    And the prospect of a Communist take-over in India was the one thing that would have ensured American support for continued British rule in India.

    The mutiny may have been supported by the few communists in India but it had absolutely no Soviet backing whatsoever. It was a spontaneous nationalist assertion with no other ideology guiding it.

    There were however communists fighting against the state of Hyderabad, insisting on social reforms in Kerala and Bengal. Indian communists generally were AWOL in their fight against the British.

    Bose like FDR, Mussolini, Hitler et al was a socialist not a communist.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    >Bose like FDR, Mussolini, Hitler et al was a socialist not a communist.

    Inherently, absolutist capitalism and authentic nationalism are incompatible. This used to be obvious to anyone with half a political brain.
  249. @guest
    Canadians are like double-Yankees. Tory Yanks.

    I love how Cruz threw the Democratic Convention in there. Still pushin Dems R da Reel Racists!

    Forrest was one of if not the greatest military commander in U.S. history. Joining the KKK was an act of heroism. Later, that organization steeply declined in discipline and purpose.

    Also, he was creator of perhaps the wisest set of inspirational quotes outside the Bible:

    https://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-no-damn-man-kills-me-and-lives-nathan-bedford-forrest-64134.jpg

    https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/3840x2160/1371033-Nathan-Bedford-Forrest-Quote-Attack-in-all-directions.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b7/f5/2e/b7f52e2b25364f35a6e82cc86faa149b--military-history-american-history.jpg

    Forrest disavowed the Klan in later years and founded a college for black women and even shook their hands to the horror of white onlookers.

  250. @CCZ
    Pelosi's 2020 primary challenger, Paki born Shahid Buttar “Resistance for Real.”

    https://shahidforchange.us/

    https://www.shahidbuttar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/cropped-DWn5ZpLVQAAJuTX.jpg

    He looks like Sundar Pichai’s long lost Mullah twin.

  251. @guest
    I can see that. War heroes. Accused war criminals. Defenders of ethnic interest (Southrons in America, Jews in Palestine).

    Sharon was a straight-talker, too:

    https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-every-time-we-do-something-you-tell-me-america-will-do-this-and-will-do-that-i-want-ariel-sharon-64-56-68.jpg

    The finest light cavalry commanders of their generation. But you didn’t want to surrender to them if you were infantry.

  252. @Steve Sailer
    NB Forrest and Ariel Sharon were pretty comparable guys.

    Both were forces of nature who earned grudging respect from their enemies. Arabs were terrified of Sharon more than anyone else besides Shamir. Anwar Sadat made it a point to meet him in person when he visited Israel.

  253. @Dave Pinsen

    Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?
     
    The Germans and Japanese would have been far more brutal in suppressing them. In the case of the Germans, Hitler told Lord Halifax in 1937 how he'd handle India:

    Shoot Gandhi! If that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress, and if that does not suffice, shoot 200 and so on until order is established.
     

    Shoot Gandhi! If that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress, and if that does not suffice, shoot 200 and so on until order is established.

    Interesting…was it Lord Cromer who said something to the effect that all he needed to control Egypt was the unquestioned right to shoot one person per year, at his whim? And that, given said right, he’d never actually have to exercise it?

    But Hitler had neither the time nor the established colonial infrastructure for such subtlety.

  254. @Gabe Ruth
    You've written several comments in this vein, regarding our current practice of looting the country to prop up urban cities. Any blog or book recommendations? Sounds a little like Kunstler, who I haven't read in a while but who I found often convincing, sometimes incisive.

    You’ve written several comments in this vein, regarding our current practice of looting the country to prop up urban cities. Any blog or book recommendations?

    Sorry about the long reply. What you’re getting below is a few book references and a research methodology. Hope it helps.

    The only book I’ve seen that describes this is the one I’ve recommended previously [1].

    I’m gifted with what Dutton calls a “Genius personality” [0], which in big 5 means:
    C: low conscientiousness in routine tasks. If I don’t see a reason for it, I usually won’t do it.
    A: Low agreeableness, polite, but willing to disagree.
    N: Low neuroticism (low fear, stable as granite).
    O: High openness (to new concepts)
    E: Low extroversion. More interested in concepts than people.

    Unfortunately, I don’t have the 160 IQ needed to make a real genius, so I sort of wander around turning over rocks. While quite a few of them have been in in engineering and computer systems, I’m also interested in social matters. I’m _particularly_ interested in why the casualty rate among the people I do know has been so high. The more education and the more service to community, the higher the casualty rate has been, and I’ve been hard put at times to escape becoming a casualty myself. At the same time, I’ve had an inside seat or been a participant in quite a few of the more significant events of the past 60 years or so.

    One of the things I’ve had forced upon me is that the formal goals of an organization are seldom its real goals. NASA, fo example, has a formal statement of purpose. That purpose has been whatever the Federal government assigned it, such as “establishing better relations with the USSR” and “Establishing better relations with the Islamic world”. If you hear senior NASA officials griping about their jobs, the purpose of NASA is to get enough funding to meet payroll and let them progress through their careers [1]. None of this has anything to do with space travel, nor did it ever. JFK wanted a “stunt” to counter Sputnik, and to do that he dismantled a very effective USAF high altitude / space vehicle program and created NASA. Kennedy’s intent was to shut down NASA after the “stunt”, but lobbyists and US public opinion kept it open. NASA was actually the _end_ of a space program, not the start of one. NASA was (and is) public relations. This is more or less public knowledge among those who work or worked with it, and is fairly well documented [2,3].

    The above sort of thing also a typical sort of thing [4]. Most of the important things in life are (a) obvious once you see them, (b) not mentioned in the media, and (c) guaranteed to make people very angry once stated, but thanks to the “genius personality”, I don’t really care that much. I’d rather have people upset with me than get hit by a phenomenon that’s obviously dangerous.
    One of the things that I’ve had forced upon me is that (a) prior to the 1950s Western capitals lived off of tax money, but after about 1970 all the American cities (and apparently all Western cities) either live off tax money, or they don’t live. Also, even today’s most successful cities are very poor compared to their past (e.g. LA, New York) [5], and appear to believe that the poor are their most important citizens.
    One can sometimes understand what’s happening by simply listening to what the people in charge are saying. They use a different word definition, but they have to make sense to their own people. The poor, the CATO4321 people [6] -_are_ vital parts of the city’s funding. Assuming 10^5 (that’s 100,000) $/(homeless person *year) cost for homeless, and 3.6*10^4 ( that’s 36,000) homeless in LA, we get 3.6*10^(5+4) = 3.6*10^9, or about 3.6 billion $/year _tax revenues for LA_. There’s money in poverty. The homeless are an important source of revenue that supports headcount and stimulates secondary taxes that can be used on deteriorating infrastructure. You see how this works. You can also see that this is killing the homeless, and that nobody in this 3.6 billion $/yr. revenue stream cares enough to take chances with the revenue stream. They don’t dare – the cities are poor and need money. I’ve met several former Civil Service employees who now drive cabs in the DC area, and if the revenue stream dried up, some city workers would find themselves competing with other Lyft drivers.
    So, yes, you can _see_ that the cities are poor and that the cities depend on tax money once the idea is introduced. I’ve just been giving an historical background for the phenomenon.
    However – I can’t do much more than the above without funding, which is not available. This is _not_ a plea for funding, just a statement of fact. So far, I’ve had three major (and several minor) research results suppressed, and I can recognize the situation. If you want to run with the idea, you might be able to do so, but be warned that the idea that “the cities are parasites and have been your entire life” isn’t going to make anybody in the cities or suburbs happy with you.
    Why am I here? Well, I’m interested in discussing the various ideas so that I can find weak points in my reasoning and observation. I recognize that quite a few plausible hypotheses are falsified by new data, so I’m looking for new data. My idea is to spot real hazards to be avoided, not to imagine hazards.
    I’m also trying to keep readers from being hurt. I’ve seen way too many people get hurt, I _really_ don’t want to see any more.
    Counterinsurgency

    0] Edward Dutton.
    “The Genius Famine”
    Search Amazon.com for Kindle book.
    You don’t hear the word “Genius” anymore, and there is a rather strange reason.
    1] Marc Levinson.
    _The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger_.
    1st ed 2006; 2nd ed. has additional material.
    2] Marc Logsdon.
    _The Decision to Go to the Moon: Project Apollo and the National Interest_.
    1st ed. 1970, out of print but available from used book sources. See description in Amazon.com

    3] Walter Froelhich.
    _Space Station: The Next Logical Step NASA_.
    1987.
    Note that this book never gives any use for the space station, merely saying that it is necessary because it is “the next logical step”. This is the ideal bureaucratic argument – plausible, and a single sentence – but meant that the original space station design failed, as did the original space station implementation.

    4] In the past cities build infrastructure that these same cities cannot even keep in repair today. This extends to public health (on the West Coast) and the electrical grid (NYC, Baltimore). This poverty is spreading to entire states: consider California’s inability to institute controlled burns in its forests and the decline of PG&E’s physical infrastructure.

    5] Policy towards soldiers and veterans during the Vietnam War was conditioned by the political influence of returning veterans in WW II and the Korean war. Previously, the veterans had organized into political lobbies. The Democrats decided to avoid creating rivals drafting kids, using individual rotation, and demonizing troops upon their return from duty. They did, and it worked – no politically effective veterans’ groups outside of those supported by a Democratic faction. Of course, the sheer horror of the policy led to the gradual erosion of White support for the Democrats and their eventual policy of flooding the US with POC, but the Democrats have never been known for thinking things out.

    6] CATO4321, also “homeless”: Crazy 40%, Addicted 30%, Thinkers 20%, 0 assets/income 10%. The “Thinkers” are people who choose to live in the for whatever reason, good or bad.

    • Replies: @Jack D

    One of the things I’ve had forced upon me is that the formal goals of an organization are seldom its real goals
     
    This is related to Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy:

    In any bureaucracy, the people devoted to the benefit of the bureaucracy itself always get in control and those dedicated to the goals the bureaucracy is supposed to accomplish have less and less influence, and sometimes are eliminated entirely.
     
    This is why schools are not "about" teaching, hospitals are not "about" healing the sick, etc. Indians seem to have an instinctive understanding of this and devote their main efforts to gaining control of, perpetuating and increasing the power the bureaucracy (sucking up to superiors, undermining rivals, promoting allies, etc.) and bother as little as possible with serving its ostensible goals - that gets in the way of Job #1 (OTOH give the APPEARANCE of working may be important).

    People who are naive enough to mistake the actual goals of an organization for its stated goals get eliminated because they are not playing the game. In some cases, they don't even realize that there IS a game - it's like wandering onto a battlefield and believing you are there for a picnic. The snipers will pick you off while you are still setting up the potato salad. Eventually some of the survivors realize what the real game is after seeing their best friends picked off, but they are still too idealistic to devote themselves too it fully and eventually get outplayed by those who aren't or they give up and do something else.
    , @Thea
    A few years ago NASA hired performance artist Laurie Anderson to be their artist in residence. Neither she not anyone she spoke with there had any idea why or what she was supposed to create for them. She gave an interesting interview about it.

    Perhaps one of her fans was in charge of budgeting and that is how it came about.
    , @Gabe Ruth
    Where do you get the conversation of one homeless person to $100k? Fed programs? While it's easy to see such money as cynical rent seeking by urban elites, whatever the conversation rate, a good fraction goes to its intended target (i.e. gets at on fire). So while losing money on each unit but making up for it in volume is typical of our alleged elite's thought process, I don't think money explains the urge to increase urbanization beyond our current insanely unbalanced state.

    I think it's more about social control, and preventing any areas in fly over country from becoming attractive to people that need to work for a living. Because our state religion is utilitarianism, efficiency is the primary objective of our priest caste, the managerial elite. Now we get to the reason for alot of their insanity, as you put it, holding the net consumers to be their most important citizens. In the eyes of the elite, it is their job to spread the goods of our nation to all, and if that is your objective urbanization is one way to homogenize outcomes, both by collecting all goods to cities, and regulating their dispensation.
  255. @guest
    Presumably all you've ever heard of the man is that he was a slave trader and on the losing side of the Civil War.

    Hey, did you know he had superiors in that war? Or that he also excelled at enterprises beyond slavery ? Or that he excelled at basically everything he did, beyond the wildest dreams of most every human being ever?

    Searching for ”Nathan Bedford Forrest” in my country’s version of Google returns his Wikipedia article in my native language, which does not mention that he was a Confederate general in the lede, despite the Google search listing his Civil War battles and suggesting other Confederate generals as related searches. The infobox mentions he was a lieutenant general, and ”General Forrest” is said to be referenced in the Forrest Gump film. No further details are given about his military service.

    What the Wikipedia article does mention in detail is that he was a slave trader, that he founded the Ku Klux Klan after the Civil War (in the article, excluding the references, that’s the only mention of the American Civil War), and that his troops massacred black soldiers who had surrendered at Fort Pillow. The first thing after his name in the Google search is ”slave trader”. To someone who didn’t know who he was, I imagine those omissions would look strange.

    The English Wikipedia does mention that he was a general in addition to being a slave trader and the founder of the KKK, as I imagine any proper reference to him does. It still omits, in the first paragraph of the lede, that white soldiers were also massacred at Fort Pillow, but does mention them later on.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    You really have to put these facts into context. History is not black and white. In the case of Ft. Pillow, Forrest had the fort surrounded and called for its surrender. The Union commander stalled, knowing that reinforcements were on their way. Forrest gave the Yankees 20 minutes to surrender and when they didn't do so, he order the fort to be stormed.

    Arguably, because the fort had not formally surrendered, the troops were fair game. No doubt the feeling that the Union commander had been playing dirty pool by stalling instead of honorably surrendering when he had the chance influenced the Confederate actions. It is generally not in the interest of armies to kill troops who surrender, both for reasons of reciprocity and also because if the other side knows that the enemy will take no prisoners they will fight to the last man and it will require more sacrifices of your own troops to defeat them.

    In the case of the KKK, it has to be understood that several different (and largely unrelated) organizations have carried that name (just as "Nazis" today have little to do with the Nazis of the Third Reich). The original KKK was formed in reaction to the excesses of the triumphant Yankees who put unqualified black people in charge of entire states. Black people didn't have the background or experience at that point to run an orderly society (putting aside whether there are other factors that will prevent this from ever happening anywhere outside of movie fantasies) - the result would have been Zimbabwe - like if they had been allowed to continue without resistance. Everyone, even the blacks themselves, would have ended up being worse off. Nevertheless, when the Klan itself spiraled into excess and terrorism, Forrest quickly distanced himself from it.

    , @guest
    The Ft. Pillow "massacre" was a real event blown entirely out of proportion by Northern propaganda. History continues to play it up because of its animus against Forrest.
  256. @Mitchell Porter
    Allow me to add some further observations which I believe the iSteve Dept of Political Anthropology has overlooked so far.

    Regarding Saikat Chakrabarti:

    For most of the history of British India, the capital was Calcutta, in Bengal. Later Bengal was divided between Hindu and Muslim; the Muslim part became "East Pakistan" and ultimately Bangladesh, the Hindu part became the Indian state of West Bengal. And the national capital was now New Delhi.

    In independent India, for several decades, the state of West Bengal was governed by a coalition led by the Communist Party of India. And in general, it seems that Bengali political culture is known for its leftism. What I have observed, is that the Bengali diaspora also has leftist tendencies. I wrote about this previously.

    Regarding Sharice Davids:

    @HouseDemocrats describes her as a "Native American woman of color", but if I am interpreting her Wiki bio correctly, she may actually be 3/4 white, 1/4 "colored". This is also happening in Australia and Canada - numerous people who are mostly white racially and culturally, nonetheless claim the status of Australian Aboriginal, Native American, etc.

    Unfortunately I cannot find the original thread from Chakrabarti that started this, so I cannot tell if he might have singled out Davids for attention, when he accused the House Democrats of supporting racism, because she is so white.

    Regarding the big picture:

    (I feel I should first emphasize, I am Australian, not American, so these are the thoughts of an interested outsider.)

    Evidently this is another episode in the struggle for power between the Clinton and Sanders wings of the Democratic Party (aka the "corporate Democrats" and the "Justice Democrats", as they say on The Young Turks). On the Sanders side, we have the brahmin ingenuity of Chakrabarti, drawing a parallel between the southern Democrats who opposed desegregation, and the corporate Democrats who oppose outright abolition of ICE. On the Clinton-Pelosi side, we have "populism of color", with the emoji version of a street-level, finger-wagging demand to shut yo' mouth, bitch (or however one would express that sentiment today).

    The intricacy of the ways in which race and racial identities are being used in this power struggle, is the way I imagine Indian caste politics must be. I could even claim that, just as Modi's newly re-hinduized India is uniting under a single civilizational identity, the diversified America of Obama and Trump is splintering into a new caste system, in which intersectional identities are a factor in any political or social situation.

    I could even claim that, just as Modi’s newly re-hinduized India is uniting under a single civilizational identity,

    Actually thats not true. Regional identities and sects are up in arms at the centralized upper casteist Brahmin trader mode of Hinduism espoused by the likes of Modi. A couple of years ago BJP had a serious loss of face in Kerala when they took the side of Vishnu against the beloved demigod Bali whom former banished to the netherworlds. Bali is a sort of mascot of Kerala and his outsider status manifests itself in the peculiar customs and social organization of Kerala which is at odds with mainstream Hinduism. BJP also ensured that their another beloved regional diety Ayyappa was compromised when the Supreme court ruled that girls of child bearing age could enter the temple who were hitherto forbidden. Same goes for Tamil Nadu which prizes bullfighting which BJP scoffs at.
    Both these state enjoy eating beef which is a nono in the North Indian brand of Hinduism.

    BJP indulged in these and many other gaffes and the Union is heading for the type of strain that gave rise to the Sikh and Kashmiri seperatist movement in the 1980s and 1990s.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan

    Brahmin trader mode of Hinduism
     
    What's a Brahmin trader?

    There are Brahmins and there are traders, I thought. Brahmins and Vaishyas, in the heirarchy, with the latter ranking #3, below warrior-farmers.
    , @Jack D
    India is a wildly complicated place that few outsiders have any hope of understanding. It's not a coincidence that the story of the blind men and the elephant originated in India. India IS that elephant. Any attempt to generalize India after touching one part of it is bound to end in failure. For every moon rocket there is a herd of cows wandering in the streets (or a thousand of them). For every high tech campus there is a smoldering garbage dump with people picking thru the trash. For every national myth there are a hundred regional differences.
  257. @guest
    I can see that. War heroes. Accused war criminals. Defenders of ethnic interest (Southrons in America, Jews in Palestine).

    Sharon was a straight-talker, too:

    https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-every-time-we-do-something-you-tell-me-america-will-do-this-and-will-do-that-i-want-ariel-sharon-64-56-68.jpg

    That quote is BS. He never said that.

  258. @Clyde

    Yet another is a big name English Literature professor.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayatri_Chakravorty_Spivak
     
    What a sickening deranged poMo bitch. Imported from India. And she has been paid by American universities to spread her madness. btw 50% of PoMo and Post Colonial theory is careerism gone wild in the University. iow they are base money grabbers.

    Agree. Such rubbish programs should be eliminated. And Im an anti colonialist.

    • Replies: @Clyde

    Agree. Such rubbish programs should be eliminated. And Im an anti colonialist.
     
    Then you are against the current legal/illegal immigration invasions, of the third world colonizing the first world. And then crying racism against the natives. The first world being developed nations such as US, Canada, Australia, Europe nations, Japan and so on.

    Just yesterday a huge mob of Africans occupied the Parthenon in France. Demanding jobs, welfare, housing, legal status.

    France arrests 21 after hundreds of African migrants ...
    France arrests 21 after hundreds of African migrants occupy Pantheon
    https://www.france24.com/en/20190713-undocumented...
    1 day ago · France on Saturday detained 21 African migrants who surged into the Pantheon in Paris to push their claims for regularised status, police said. ... they briefly occupied the headquarters of the ...
     
  259. @Whiskey
    This is why we always lose. The point is not if India could have retained independence from the Man in the High Castle. That's dewaponized autusm.

    The point is that chief of staff and main money man for the most famous Congresscritter is a weird foreigner with a hard on for an even weirder icky foreigner. Nazis for Brown people really. That's beyond Che t shirt stupid. At least Che had great lines in the Andrew Lloyd Weber musical. This is Springtime for Hitler in real life.

    That's where we are at. Weirdo foreigners with weird heroes deciding our future.

    You would know weird and icky best Whiskey.

    • LOL: Marcus
    • Troll: HammerJack
  260. @Dr Van Nostrand

    I could even claim that, just as Modi’s newly re-hinduized India is uniting under a single civilizational identity,
     
    Actually thats not true. Regional identities and sects are up in arms at the centralized upper casteist Brahmin trader mode of Hinduism espoused by the likes of Modi. A couple of years ago BJP had a serious loss of face in Kerala when they took the side of Vishnu against the beloved demigod Bali whom former banished to the netherworlds. Bali is a sort of mascot of Kerala and his outsider status manifests itself in the peculiar customs and social organization of Kerala which is at odds with mainstream Hinduism. BJP also ensured that their another beloved regional diety Ayyappa was compromised when the Supreme court ruled that girls of child bearing age could enter the temple who were hitherto forbidden. Same goes for Tamil Nadu which prizes bullfighting which BJP scoffs at.
    Both these state enjoy eating beef which is a nono in the North Indian brand of Hinduism.

    BJP indulged in these and many other gaffes and the Union is heading for the type of strain that gave rise to the Sikh and Kashmiri seperatist movement in the 1980s and 1990s.

    Brahmin trader mode of Hinduism

    What’s a Brahmin trader?

    There are Brahmins and there are traders, I thought. Brahmins and Vaishyas, in the heirarchy, with the latter ranking #3, below warrior-farmers.

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
    Sorry I meant Brahmin, trader. It's the sedentary upper caste mode of Hinduism that they wish to inflict on the country with it's Puritan ethos.
  261. @guest
    Presumably all you've ever heard of the man is that he was a slave trader and on the losing side of the Civil War.

    Hey, did you know he had superiors in that war? Or that he also excelled at enterprises beyond slavery ? Or that he excelled at basically everything he did, beyond the wildest dreams of most every human being ever?

    Thanks for the laugh. All his ventures failed except for the excellently named “Negro Mart.” Also his testimony before Congress during the Klan investigation was a masterpiece of obfuscation and dissimulation

  262. @Dr Van Nostrand
    Agree. Such rubbish programs should be eliminated. And Im an anti colonialist.

    Agree. Such rubbish programs should be eliminated. And Im an anti colonialist.

    Then you are against the current legal/illegal immigration invasions, of the third world colonizing the first world. And then crying racism against the natives. The first world being developed nations such as US, Canada, Australia, Europe nations, Japan and so on.

    Just yesterday a huge mob of Africans occupied the Parthenon in France. Demanding jobs, welfare, housing, legal status.

    France arrests 21 after hundreds of African migrants …
    France arrests 21 after hundreds of African migrants occupy Pantheon
    https://www.france24.com/en/20190713-undocumented&#8230;
    1 day ago · France on Saturday detained 21 African migrants who surged into the Pantheon in Paris to push their claims for regularised status, police said. … they briefly occupied the headquarters of the …

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1149906874436915206
    , @Dr Van Nostrand

    Just yesterday a huge mob of Africans occupied the Parthenon in France. Demanding jobs, welfare, housing, legal status.
     
    Lol. Why do u think I would be for this?
  263. anonymous[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist

    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?

    I’m lost.
     
    Why try to understand dumbassery?

    You may not be interested in dumbassery, but dumbassery is interested in you.

    See Ayanna Presley or A. Ocasio-Cortez, generally. This is the future of American politics.

    • Replies: @Realist
    If white people would wise up, this could be eliminated.
  264. @Dr Van Nostrand

    I could even claim that, just as Modi’s newly re-hinduized India is uniting under a single civilizational identity,
     
    Actually thats not true. Regional identities and sects are up in arms at the centralized upper casteist Brahmin trader mode of Hinduism espoused by the likes of Modi. A couple of years ago BJP had a serious loss of face in Kerala when they took the side of Vishnu against the beloved demigod Bali whom former banished to the netherworlds. Bali is a sort of mascot of Kerala and his outsider status manifests itself in the peculiar customs and social organization of Kerala which is at odds with mainstream Hinduism. BJP also ensured that their another beloved regional diety Ayyappa was compromised when the Supreme court ruled that girls of child bearing age could enter the temple who were hitherto forbidden. Same goes for Tamil Nadu which prizes bullfighting which BJP scoffs at.
    Both these state enjoy eating beef which is a nono in the North Indian brand of Hinduism.

    BJP indulged in these and many other gaffes and the Union is heading for the type of strain that gave rise to the Sikh and Kashmiri seperatist movement in the 1980s and 1990s.

    India is a wildly complicated place that few outsiders have any hope of understanding. It’s not a coincidence that the story of the blind men and the elephant originated in India. India IS that elephant. Any attempt to generalize India after touching one part of it is bound to end in failure. For every moon rocket there is a herd of cows wandering in the streets (or a thousand of them). For every high tech campus there is a smoldering garbage dump with people picking thru the trash. For every national myth there are a hundred regional differences.

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
    It will be easier to understand and less confusingif you don't treat India as a country but as a collection of nation states. same goes for Hinduism which varies from region and caste. Examine them separately and you get a clear picture.
    , @Lurker
    Not forgetting the millions crapping in the streets.
  265. @Philethenes
    have you seen this Steve, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjVVwMGJ9S8

    Wow – that was really hard to listen to, that vocal inflection just screams “I’m earnest and I want you to believe that I’ve found the truth”

    I’ve tried to avoid Vox content, which unfortunately shows up in some of my news feeds and I inadvertently hate-click on the headline, only to immediately back out when I see the source.

    I struggled to watch this video all the way through, but just had to comment on “what a bunch of garbage”. Obviously, a rebuttal could be made on every point made in the video, but what’s really scary is that THIS IS the narrative out there today. Plenty of well-meaning people see this and come away thinking “The System” (as it’s referred to in the video numerous times) is biased in favor of wealthy white people.

    I loved the graphic where it purported that low income who attend selective colleges come away making “just as much” as their colleagues. Clearly, everyone is above-average then! I believe the narrator cited the work of our favorite economist Raj Chetty there.

  266. @guest
    I can see that. War heroes. Accused war criminals. Defenders of ethnic interest (Southrons in America, Jews in Palestine).

    Sharon was a straight-talker, too:

    https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-every-time-we-do-something-you-tell-me-america-will-do-this-and-will-do-that-i-want-ariel-sharon-64-56-68.jpg

    This would be a very damning statement if it was true, but it’s just an Islamic hoax:

    https://www.camera.org/article/florida-newspaper-publishes-hoax-quote-accusing-the-jewish-people-of-controlling-america/

    Islamists and other anti-Semites have a lot in common – they are both willing/eager to believe the worst about Jews without any regard for truth.

    • Troll: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Most Muslims are Semites.
    , @gabriel alberton
    I'm a fan of the ''Ouze Merham'' ''interview'' myself.
  267. @Dave Pinsen
    All the famous Indian nationalists wanted the British out of India, but only Bose, AFAIK, allied himself with Hitler, and, later, Tojo. Morality aside, this was dumb for two reasons. Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British. And second, Bose stuck with the Axis when it was obvious they were losing the war.

    There’s a neat alternate history novella I read where exactly that happens: Gandhi’s crew helps the Germans (who win the war overall), and he asks Model (I think) when the Germans are leaving. From there things continue to go downhill with Gandhi trying non violence against the Wehrmacht, which almost works until a bunch of SS with extensive time on the Eastern Front come around the corner and it ends how you’d expect.

    Gandhi’s followers are all pissed at him and he’s telling then “yeah but wait until the MEDIA reports it!”. And he’s shocked to hear what happened described as a failed terrorist attack. From there it keeps getting worst with the Muslims turning on Gandhi and handing him over to the Germans for summary execution.

  268. @Counterinsurgency

    You’ve written several comments in this vein, regarding our current practice of looting the country to prop up urban cities. Any blog or book recommendations?
     
    Sorry about the long reply. What you're getting below is a few book references and a research methodology. Hope it helps.

    The only book I've seen that describes this is the one I've recommended previously [1].

    I'm gifted with what Dutton calls a "Genius personality" [0], which in big 5 means:
    C: low conscientiousness in routine tasks. If I don't see a reason for it, I usually won't do it.
    A: Low agreeableness, polite, but willing to disagree.
    N: Low neuroticism (low fear, stable as granite).
    O: High openness (to new concepts)
    E: Low extroversion. More interested in concepts than people.

    Unfortunately, I don't have the 160 IQ needed to make a real genius, so I sort of wander around turning over rocks. While quite a few of them have been in in engineering and computer systems, I'm also interested in social matters. I'm _particularly_ interested in why the casualty rate among the people I do know has been so high. The more education and the more service to community, the higher the casualty rate has been, and I've been hard put at times to escape becoming a casualty myself. At the same time, I've had an inside seat or been a participant in quite a few of the more significant events of the past 60 years or so.

    One of the things I've had forced upon me is that the formal goals of an organization are seldom its real goals. NASA, fo example, has a formal statement of purpose. That purpose has been whatever the Federal government assigned it, such as "establishing better relations with the USSR" and "Establishing better relations with the Islamic world". If you hear senior NASA officials griping about their jobs, the purpose of NASA is to get enough funding to meet payroll and let them progress through their careers [1]. None of this has anything to do with space travel, nor did it ever. JFK wanted a "stunt" to counter Sputnik, and to do that he dismantled a very effective USAF high altitude / space vehicle program and created NASA. Kennedy's intent was to shut down NASA after the "stunt", but lobbyists and US public opinion kept it open. NASA was actually the _end_ of a space program, not the start of one. NASA was (and is) public relations. This is more or less public knowledge among those who work or worked with it, and is fairly well documented [2,3].

    The above sort of thing also a typical sort of thing [4]. Most of the important things in life are (a) obvious once you see them, (b) not mentioned in the media, and (c) guaranteed to make people very angry once stated, but thanks to the "genius personality", I don’t really care that much. I’d rather have people upset with me than get hit by a phenomenon that’s obviously dangerous.
    One of the things that I've had forced upon me is that (a) prior to the 1950s Western capitals lived off of tax money, but after about 1970 all the American cities (and apparently all Western cities) either live off tax money, or they don’t live. Also, even today’s most successful cities are very poor compared to their past (e.g. LA, New York) [5], and appear to believe that the poor are their most important citizens.
    One can sometimes understand what’s happening by simply listening to what the people in charge are saying. They use a different word definition, but they have to make sense to their own people. The poor, the CATO4321 people [6] -_are_ vital parts of the city’s funding. Assuming 10^5 (that’s 100,000) $/(homeless person *year) cost for homeless, and 3.6*10^4 ( that’s 36,000) homeless in LA, we get 3.6*10^(5+4) = 3.6*10^9, or about 3.6 billion $/year _tax revenues for LA_. There’s money in poverty. The homeless are an important source of revenue that supports headcount and stimulates secondary taxes that can be used on deteriorating infrastructure. You see how this works. You can also see that this is killing the homeless, and that nobody in this 3.6 billion $/yr. revenue stream cares enough to take chances with the revenue stream. They don’t dare – the cities are poor and need money. I’ve met several former Civil Service employees who now drive cabs in the DC area, and if the revenue stream dried up, some city workers would find themselves competing with other Lyft drivers.
    So, yes, you can _see_ that the cities are poor and that the cities depend on tax money once the idea is introduced. I’ve just been giving an historical background for the phenomenon.
    However – I can’t do much more than the above without funding, which is not available. This is _not_ a plea for funding, just a statement of fact. So far, I’ve had three major (and several minor) research results suppressed, and I can recognize the situation. If you want to run with the idea, you might be able to do so, but be warned that the idea that “the cities are parasites and have been your entire life” isn’t going to make anybody in the cities or suburbs happy with you.
    Why am I here? Well, I’m interested in discussing the various ideas so that I can find weak points in my reasoning and observation. I recognize that quite a few plausible hypotheses are falsified by new data, so I’m looking for new data. My idea is to spot real hazards to be avoided, not to imagine hazards.
    I’m also trying to keep readers from being hurt. I’ve seen way too many people get hurt, I _really_ don’t want to see any more.
    Counterinsurgency

    0] Edward Dutton.
    "The Genius Famine"
    Search Amazon.com for Kindle book.
    You don't hear the word "Genius" anymore, and there is a rather strange reason.
    1] Marc Levinson.
    _The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger_.
    1st ed 2006; 2nd ed. has additional material.
    2] Marc Logsdon.
    _The Decision to Go to the Moon: Project Apollo and the National Interest_.
    1st ed. 1970, out of print but available from used book sources. See description in Amazon.com

    3] Walter Froelhich.
    _Space Station: The Next Logical Step NASA_.
    1987.
    Note that this book never gives any use for the space station, merely saying that it is necessary because it is “the next logical step”. This is the ideal bureaucratic argument – plausible, and a single sentence – but meant that the original space station design failed, as did the original space station implementation.

    4] In the past cities build infrastructure that these same cities cannot even keep in repair today. This extends to public health (on the West Coast) and the electrical grid (NYC, Baltimore). This poverty is spreading to entire states: consider California’s inability to institute controlled burns in its forests and the decline of PG&E’s physical infrastructure.

    5] Policy towards soldiers and veterans during the Vietnam War was conditioned by the political influence of returning veterans in WW II and the Korean war. Previously, the veterans had organized into political lobbies. The Democrats decided to avoid creating rivals drafting kids, using individual rotation, and demonizing troops upon their return from duty. They did, and it worked – no politically effective veterans’ groups outside of those supported by a Democratic faction. Of course, the sheer horror of the policy led to the gradual erosion of White support for the Democrats and their eventual policy of flooding the US with POC, but the Democrats have never been known for thinking things out.

    6] CATO4321, also “homeless”: Crazy 40%, Addicted 30%, Thinkers 20%, 0 assets/income 10%. The “Thinkers” are people who choose to live in the for whatever reason, good or bad.

    One of the things I’ve had forced upon me is that the formal goals of an organization are seldom its real goals

    This is related to Pournelle’s Iron Law of Bureaucracy:

    In any bureaucracy, the people devoted to the benefit of the bureaucracy itself always get in control and those dedicated to the goals the bureaucracy is supposed to accomplish have less and less influence, and sometimes are eliminated entirely.

    This is why schools are not “about” teaching, hospitals are not “about” healing the sick, etc. Indians seem to have an instinctive understanding of this and devote their main efforts to gaining control of, perpetuating and increasing the power the bureaucracy (sucking up to superiors, undermining rivals, promoting allies, etc.) and bother as little as possible with serving its ostensible goals – that gets in the way of Job #1 (OTOH give the APPEARANCE of working may be important).

    People who are naive enough to mistake the actual goals of an organization for its stated goals get eliminated because they are not playing the game. In some cases, they don’t even realize that there IS a game – it’s like wandering onto a battlefield and believing you are there for a picnic. The snipers will pick you off while you are still setting up the potato salad. Eventually some of the survivors realize what the real game is after seeing their best friends picked off, but they are still too idealistic to devote themselves too it fully and eventually get outplayed by those who aren’t or they give up and do something else.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency

    Eventually some of the survivors realize what the real game is after seeing their best friends picked off, but they are still too idealistic to devote themselves too it fully and eventually get outplayed by those who aren’t or they give up and do something else.
     
    Next stage is that the organization becomes unable to function. The West has, historically, destroyed these organizations periodically (~each 70-80 years), usually as a block. Most recent time was the WW I and WW II time interval, which destroyed the old European Empires and (as became apparent after c.a. AD 1990) destroyed ideological empires outside the West also.
    Now we have anarchy [1] with roving predatory bands (sorry - should have read "tolerant governments with uncontrollable bureaucracies and Non Governmental Organizations such as Antifa"). It's been over 70 years, time to reorganize.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] Catchphrase: Anarchy isn't good, but it's better than no government at all.
  269. @istevefan

    Had the Axis won the war, India wouldn’t have been independent, and occupation by the Germans or the Japanese would have been worse than by the British.
     
    That is a big assumption. Given that the Indians were waking up to being colonized in the first place, would they have sat back and allowed the Germans or Japanese to simply replace the British as their colonial masters?

    Either Germany or Japan would have been worn out even if they had won the war, and would not have been in a position to subdue such a large nation like India that was not close to their borders. Logistics was not the strong point of Germany or Japan like it was with the US.

    Either Germany or Japan would have been worn out even if they had won the war, and would not have been in a position to subdue such a large nation like India that was not close to their borders.

    I’m sure they would have been quite content with an independent India with a government prepared to be a reasonably compliant ally. Sort of a puppet state. You know, the way postwar Britain was theoretically independent but in practice a U.S. puppet state.

  270. Anonymous[242] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    This would be a very damning statement if it was true, but it's just an Islamic hoax:

    https://www.camera.org/article/florida-newspaper-publishes-hoax-quote-accusing-the-jewish-people-of-controlling-america/

    Islamists and other anti-Semites have a lot in common - they are both willing/eager to believe the worst about Jews without any regard for truth.

    Most Muslims are Semites.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Africans, Persians, Turkics, subcontinentals, Austro-Polynesians...

    And some of these groups, like the Iranians, tend to dislike Arabs almost as much as they dislike Jews.
  271. @Mr. Blank
    Would someone kindly explain to me why South Asians seem so heavily overrepresented among the ranks of SJW cultural enforcers? Why do they all seem to aspire to be the Woke Joseph Goebbels?

    It’s becoming really, really tiresome. Anti-semites are forever putting (((echoes))) around the names of Jews, but personally I’m more struck by the fact that every time I read an article or see a book or a video clip of someone lecturing me about how I’m both a bad person and a bad American, it’s nearly always someone who’s barely off the boat from New Delhi. My roots stretch back to Colonial times and my ancestors fought in the American Revolution, but a guy named “Saikat Chakrabarti” wants to lecture ME about the proper way to be an American. The NERVE!

    Am I the only one who thinks this will end very badly, and is angry at our leaders for allowing this to happen? Sure, call me a “white nationalist” or whatever, if that makes you feel better. But can you point to a single society in human history where importing a highly visible foreign overclass to push around the natives hasn’t ended in a bloody disaster?

    Something in their culture makes humiliating others seem desirable. The way they treat the Dalit and widows is really hard to swallow as a moral person. But if humiliating other people is seen as a virtue, the such behavior is acceptable. Whites are the untouchables now.

    I’ve said before that Islam from the Mogul invasion was a vast improvement over Hindu morality.

    • Agree: nebulafox
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    I will give Islam (and Christianity) this much, there's no caste system and everybody is supposedly equal in the eyes of the Lord.

    I think fellow atheists from a monotheistic background, in their recoiling from their own religions, tend to compulsively boost Eastern religions. Often, they miss the features that would be downright retrograde compared to the Abrahamic ones.

  272. @gabriel alberton
    Searching for ''Nathan Bedford Forrest'' in my country's version of Google returns his Wikipedia article in my native language, which does not mention that he was a Confederate general in the lede, despite the Google search listing his Civil War battles and suggesting other Confederate generals as related searches. The infobox mentions he was a lieutenant general, and ''General Forrest'' is said to be referenced in the Forrest Gump film. No further details are given about his military service.

    What the Wikipedia article does mention in detail is that he was a slave trader, that he founded the Ku Klux Klan after the Civil War (in the article, excluding the references, that's the only mention of the American Civil War), and that his troops massacred black soldiers who had surrendered at Fort Pillow. The first thing after his name in the Google search is ''slave trader''. To someone who didn't know who he was, I imagine those omissions would look strange.

    The English Wikipedia does mention that he was a general in addition to being a slave trader and the founder of the KKK, as I imagine any proper reference to him does. It still omits, in the first paragraph of the lede, that white soldiers were also massacred at Fort Pillow, but does mention them later on.

    You really have to put these facts into context. History is not black and white. In the case of Ft. Pillow, Forrest had the fort surrounded and called for its surrender. The Union commander stalled, knowing that reinforcements were on their way. Forrest gave the Yankees 20 minutes to surrender and when they didn’t do so, he order the fort to be stormed.

    Arguably, because the fort had not formally surrendered, the troops were fair game. No doubt the feeling that the Union commander had been playing dirty pool by stalling instead of honorably surrendering when he had the chance influenced the Confederate actions. It is generally not in the interest of armies to kill troops who surrender, both for reasons of reciprocity and also because if the other side knows that the enemy will take no prisoners they will fight to the last man and it will require more sacrifices of your own troops to defeat them.

    In the case of the KKK, it has to be understood that several different (and largely unrelated) organizations have carried that name (just as “Nazis” today have little to do with the Nazis of the Third Reich). The original KKK was formed in reaction to the excesses of the triumphant Yankees who put unqualified black people in charge of entire states. Black people didn’t have the background or experience at that point to run an orderly society (putting aside whether there are other factors that will prevent this from ever happening anywhere outside of movie fantasies) – the result would have been Zimbabwe – like if they had been allowed to continue without resistance. Everyone, even the blacks themselves, would have ended up being worse off. Nevertheless, when the Klan itself spiraled into excess and terrorism, Forrest quickly distanced himself from it.

    • Replies: @gabriel alberton

    You really have to put these facts into context. History is not black and white.
     
    It appears to be for whoever wrote that Wikipedia article. And some of those do not appear to be facts. I don't think Forrest was among the founders of the first Klan, despite being their leader. I guess if it's repeated enough times that he founded the KKK, then he did found it.

    But whatever were the circunstances at Fort Pillow, and whatever was the American situation when the Klan was first founded, et cetera, those are just details; Forrest was an evil, evil man, he's guilty of being evil, and that's all we need to know about him -- so I'm told.

  273. @PiltdownMan

    Brahmin trader mode of Hinduism
     
    What's a Brahmin trader?

    There are Brahmins and there are traders, I thought. Brahmins and Vaishyas, in the heirarchy, with the latter ranking #3, below warrior-farmers.

    Sorry I meant Brahmin, trader. It’s the sedentary upper caste mode of Hinduism that they wish to inflict on the country with it’s Puritan ethos.

  274. @istevefan
    Many users have pointed out that the Germans and Japanese were tougher than the English, and Gandhi's tactics would not have worked with them or the Japanese.

    I simply point to the fact that India was too populous and too far away from Germany or Japan for either to effectively colonize it at the conclusion of WW2 had they been on the winning side. The Germans were notorious for not being able to keep their forces properly supplied. They never developed the type of logistical system that the US did.

    What the US did in supplying its own forces and those of its allies, across the two largest oceans and in multiple fronts was truly something to behold. Germany or Japan were not remotely close to having that capability in WW2. Additionally, even if they had won, they would have been licking their wounds and trying to consolidate their gains around their own nations. They would not have been in position to colonize India.

    India at that time had over 350 million people. If the Indians had gotten a taste of freedom with the departure of the Brits, why would they have sat back for either the Germans or the Japanese? If 350 million people don't want to be ruled by foreigners, they won't. How the British were able to do it as long as they did is something I don't have an answer for. But once it became clear the Indians did not want British rule, even the British knew the time was up. There were just too many people to control.

    Others have pointed to Japan's conquest of part of China. And of course China had even more people than India. But Japan would never have been able to hold on to that possession. There were just too many Chinese, and there were millions of them under arms with either Mao or Chiang Kai Shek. Despite killing millions of Chinese, those forces were growing and the Japanese would simply have not been able to hold on to its conquered Chinese territory long term.

    By the time of WW2 colonialism was fading and colonized peoples were no longer willing to be colonized. Just look at what happened to the victors after WW2. The French, Brits and other Euros all eventually lost their colonies because the cost of keeping them became too great. Had the Germans or Japanese won, that same growing resistance to colonialism would have been present as well. Other than weaker nations in their near abroad, I just don't see them being able to takeover giants like India or China.

    Part of the reason Hitler seems so anachronistic to observers is because his war against the USSR was, at heart, an old-style 18th/19th Century style colonial war of conquest. Crusade against Bolshevism it might have been, but in the peculiarly dual character Barbarossa took, it was the colonial impetus-and here, Hitler shows his link with the bygone 19th Century-that really drove it. The only difference was that the target was an old European power: and the scale of destruction enabled by modern technology and ideology was far greater than any comparable enterprise. The Nazis also did not understand the intricate bureaucracy and, even more vitally, the cooperation with local elites that enabled British rule in India under the surface.

    Hitler’s own favored analogy on what he intended for the Russians, Ukrainians, et all, was how the United States dealt with the natives. The Jews were thought of as too much of a threat (essentially akin to negative Ubermenschen) to the new order of things to be given this treatment, so they were to be exterminated preemptively.

    • Replies: @istevefan

    Hitler’s own favored analogy on what he intended for the Russians, Ukrainians, et all, was how the United States dealt with the natives
     
    I recall reading about that in a history class about Nazi Germany. A big flaw in this thinking is that it did not take into consideration the extremely sparse population of hunter-gathers in the USA as opposed to the multitude of agrarians in Slavic Europe.
    , @dfordoom

    Part of the reason Hitler seems so anachronistic to observers is because his war against the USSR was, at heart, an old-style 18th/19th Century style colonial war of conquest.
     
    Sort of. But not quite like the British in India. Hitler had dreams of a world in which Germans would live an idyllic rural life on small family farms. He thought urban life was evil and destructive. He wanted an agrarian utopia. That's why in the long term his plans required the removal (one way or another) of the existing inhabitants of the conquered lands. A bit like the pioneer days in the U.S. - get rid of the subhuman natives and every German would have a little house on the prairie.

    Hitler was kind of like an imperialist environmentalist hippie. Right down to the vegetarianism and the animal rights agenda.

    His plans were of course totally insane. He was typical of many radical environmentalists really - get rid of the surplus people and the remainder would live a back-to-nature existence. There seemed to be a lot of this kind of craziness in early 20th century Germany. The nudist cult was very big there.
  275. @Alden
    And Germans are our largest ethnic grouo

    And Germans are our largest ethnic grouo

    And they got to be our largest group through the immigration of around 7 million Germans throughout our colonial and national history. Mexico has just sent about 11 million in the past 40 years. In a few generations they will probably be our largest ethnic group.

  276. @Jack D
    India is a wildly complicated place that few outsiders have any hope of understanding. It's not a coincidence that the story of the blind men and the elephant originated in India. India IS that elephant. Any attempt to generalize India after touching one part of it is bound to end in failure. For every moon rocket there is a herd of cows wandering in the streets (or a thousand of them). For every high tech campus there is a smoldering garbage dump with people picking thru the trash. For every national myth there are a hundred regional differences.

    It will be easier to understand and less confusingif you don’t treat India as a country but as a collection of nation states. same goes for Hinduism which varies from region and caste. Examine them separately and you get a clear picture.

  277. @nebulafox
    Part of the reason Hitler seems so anachronistic to observers is because his war against the USSR was, at heart, an old-style 18th/19th Century style colonial war of conquest. Crusade against Bolshevism it might have been, but in the peculiarly dual character Barbarossa took, it was the colonial impetus-and here, Hitler shows his link with the bygone 19th Century-that really drove it. The only difference was that the target was an old European power: and the scale of destruction enabled by modern technology and ideology was far greater than any comparable enterprise. The Nazis also did not understand the intricate bureaucracy and, even more vitally, the cooperation with local elites that enabled British rule in India under the surface.

    Hitler's own favored analogy on what he intended for the Russians, Ukrainians, et all, was how the United States dealt with the natives. The Jews were thought of as too much of a threat (essentially akin to negative Ubermenschen) to the new order of things to be given this treatment, so they were to be exterminated preemptively.

    Hitler’s own favored analogy on what he intended for the Russians, Ukrainians, et all, was how the United States dealt with the natives

    I recall reading about that in a history class about Nazi Germany. A big flaw in this thinking is that it did not take into consideration the extremely sparse population of hunter-gathers in the USA as opposed to the multitude of agrarians in Slavic Europe.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Agree. A better analogy would have been what the Spanish ended up doing in Latin America. Or would have if Montezuma had thousands of T-34s.
  278. @Counterinsurgency

    You’ve written several comments in this vein, regarding our current practice of looting the country to prop up urban cities. Any blog or book recommendations?
     
    Sorry about the long reply. What you're getting below is a few book references and a research methodology. Hope it helps.

    The only book I've seen that describes this is the one I've recommended previously [1].

    I'm gifted with what Dutton calls a "Genius personality" [0], which in big 5 means:
    C: low conscientiousness in routine tasks. If I don't see a reason for it, I usually won't do it.
    A: Low agreeableness, polite, but willing to disagree.
    N: Low neuroticism (low fear, stable as granite).
    O: High openness (to new concepts)
    E: Low extroversion. More interested in concepts than people.

    Unfortunately, I don't have the 160 IQ needed to make a real genius, so I sort of wander around turning over rocks. While quite a few of them have been in in engineering and computer systems, I'm also interested in social matters. I'm _particularly_ interested in why the casualty rate among the people I do know has been so high. The more education and the more service to community, the higher the casualty rate has been, and I've been hard put at times to escape becoming a casualty myself. At the same time, I've had an inside seat or been a participant in quite a few of the more significant events of the past 60 years or so.

    One of the things I've had forced upon me is that the formal goals of an organization are seldom its real goals. NASA, fo example, has a formal statement of purpose. That purpose has been whatever the Federal government assigned it, such as "establishing better relations with the USSR" and "Establishing better relations with the Islamic world". If you hear senior NASA officials griping about their jobs, the purpose of NASA is to get enough funding to meet payroll and let them progress through their careers [1]. None of this has anything to do with space travel, nor did it ever. JFK wanted a "stunt" to counter Sputnik, and to do that he dismantled a very effective USAF high altitude / space vehicle program and created NASA. Kennedy's intent was to shut down NASA after the "stunt", but lobbyists and US public opinion kept it open. NASA was actually the _end_ of a space program, not the start of one. NASA was (and is) public relations. This is more or less public knowledge among those who work or worked with it, and is fairly well documented [2,3].

    The above sort of thing also a typical sort of thing [4]. Most of the important things in life are (a) obvious once you see them, (b) not mentioned in the media, and (c) guaranteed to make people very angry once stated, but thanks to the "genius personality", I don’t really care that much. I’d rather have people upset with me than get hit by a phenomenon that’s obviously dangerous.
    One of the things that I've had forced upon me is that (a) prior to the 1950s Western capitals lived off of tax money, but after about 1970 all the American cities (and apparently all Western cities) either live off tax money, or they don’t live. Also, even today’s most successful cities are very poor compared to their past (e.g. LA, New York) [5], and appear to believe that the poor are their most important citizens.
    One can sometimes understand what’s happening by simply listening to what the people in charge are saying. They use a different word definition, but they have to make sense to their own people. The poor, the CATO4321 people [6] -_are_ vital parts of the city’s funding. Assuming 10^5 (that’s 100,000) $/(homeless person *year) cost for homeless, and 3.6*10^4 ( that’s 36,000) homeless in LA, we get 3.6*10^(5+4) = 3.6*10^9, or about 3.6 billion $/year _tax revenues for LA_. There’s money in poverty. The homeless are an important source of revenue that supports headcount and stimulates secondary taxes that can be used on deteriorating infrastructure. You see how this works. You can also see that this is killing the homeless, and that nobody in this 3.6 billion $/yr. revenue stream cares enough to take chances with the revenue stream. They don’t dare – the cities are poor and need money. I’ve met several former Civil Service employees who now drive cabs in the DC area, and if the revenue stream dried up, some city workers would find themselves competing with other Lyft drivers.
    So, yes, you can _see_ that the cities are poor and that the cities depend on tax money once the idea is introduced. I’ve just been giving an historical background for the phenomenon.
    However – I can’t do much more than the above without funding, which is not available. This is _not_ a plea for funding, just a statement of fact. So far, I’ve had three major (and several minor) research results suppressed, and I can recognize the situation. If you want to run with the idea, you might be able to do so, but be warned that the idea that “the cities are parasites and have been your entire life” isn’t going to make anybody in the cities or suburbs happy with you.
    Why am I here? Well, I’m interested in discussing the various ideas so that I can find weak points in my reasoning and observation. I recognize that quite a few plausible hypotheses are falsified by new data, so I’m looking for new data. My idea is to spot real hazards to be avoided, not to imagine hazards.
    I’m also trying to keep readers from being hurt. I’ve seen way too many people get hurt, I _really_ don’t want to see any more.
    Counterinsurgency

    0] Edward Dutton.
    "The Genius Famine"
    Search Amazon.com for Kindle book.
    You don't hear the word "Genius" anymore, and there is a rather strange reason.
    1] Marc Levinson.
    _The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger_.
    1st ed 2006; 2nd ed. has additional material.
    2] Marc Logsdon.
    _The Decision to Go to the Moon: Project Apollo and the National Interest_.
    1st ed. 1970, out of print but available from used book sources. See description in Amazon.com

    3] Walter Froelhich.
    _Space Station: The Next Logical Step NASA_.
    1987.
    Note that this book never gives any use for the space station, merely saying that it is necessary because it is “the next logical step”. This is the ideal bureaucratic argument – plausible, and a single sentence – but meant that the original space station design failed, as did the original space station implementation.

    4] In the past cities build infrastructure that these same cities cannot even keep in repair today. This extends to public health (on the West Coast) and the electrical grid (NYC, Baltimore). This poverty is spreading to entire states: consider California’s inability to institute controlled burns in its forests and the decline of PG&E’s physical infrastructure.

    5] Policy towards soldiers and veterans during the Vietnam War was conditioned by the political influence of returning veterans in WW II and the Korean war. Previously, the veterans had organized into political lobbies. The Democrats decided to avoid creating rivals drafting kids, using individual rotation, and demonizing troops upon their return from duty. They did, and it worked – no politically effective veterans’ groups outside of those supported by a Democratic faction. Of course, the sheer horror of the policy led to the gradual erosion of White support for the Democrats and their eventual policy of flooding the US with POC, but the Democrats have never been known for thinking things out.

    6] CATO4321, also “homeless”: Crazy 40%, Addicted 30%, Thinkers 20%, 0 assets/income 10%. The “Thinkers” are people who choose to live in the for whatever reason, good or bad.

    A few years ago NASA hired performance artist Laurie Anderson to be their artist in residence. Neither she not anyone she spoke with there had any idea why or what she was supposed to create for them. She gave an interesting interview about it.

    Perhaps one of her fans was in charge of budgeting and that is how it came about.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency

    A few years ago NASA hired performance artist Laurie Anderson to be their artist in residence. Neither she not anyone she spoke with there had any idea why or what she was supposed to create for them.
     
    Yes, they've been doing that for some time. They know that art is important, so they hire an artist. Bing, that box is checked.

    Once they hired a fairly well known architect to consider the interior design of the proposed space station. The architect delivered a picture of a ball in a box (as i remember), which was filed and forgotten.

    Then there was the "Berkley collective" that was asked about Skylab and delivered a real (rotating through at two sentences each to avoid hierarchy) that the single seat on Skylab symolied a throne was (apparently) put in as a symbol of social domination. The NASA rep pointed out that it was put there at the insistence of the mission commander, that nobody else in space or on the ground wanted it, and that it wasn't used.

    So: Authority X says NASA needs an outside opinion, NASA gets an outside opinion, mission accomplished, check, on to the next task. Not an uncommon way for bureaucracies to operate pretty much anywhere. Boss says do "x", they don't know what "x" means, so, not knowing what to do, they do what they know.

    Counterinsurgency
  279. @Dr Van Nostrand
    The mutiny may have been supported by the few communists in India but it had absolutely no Soviet backing whatsoever. It was a spontaneous nationalist assertion with no other ideology guiding it.

    There were however communists fighting against the state of Hyderabad, insisting on social reforms in Kerala and Bengal. Indian communists generally were AWOL in their fight against the British.

    Bose like FDR, Mussolini, Hitler et al was a socialist not a communist.

    >Bose like FDR, Mussolini, Hitler et al was a socialist not a communist.

    Inherently, absolutist capitalism and authentic nationalism are incompatible. This used to be obvious to anyone with half a political brain.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    So Stalin was a socialist-nationalist and Hitler was a national-socialist. At some point it's all the same stuff. This reminds me of Polonius's introduction of the visiting players in Hamlet (it's really Shakespeare talking about his own troupe):

    The best actors in the world, either for tragedy,
    comedy, history, pastoral, pastoral-comical,
    historical-pastoral, tragical-historical, tragical-
    comical-historical-pastoral....
     
    Any combination you want. It's all the same gruel, we just put a different label on it - whatever the customer wants.
  280. @Flip
    White flight on a continental level

    https://missoulian.com/news/local/missoula-s-home-prices-soar-to-new-record-high-of/article_49a8cc41-f8ec-54ff-ade0-099276f3bdba.html

    "John Brauer, a past president of the Missoula Organization of Realtors, said out-of-state buyers with money are definitely helping to push up prices."

    Missoula is 92% white. Jobs will follow the internal refugees as European Americans rebuild their civilization away from the coastal cities.

    Fucking-a. I’ve been plotting to move back to the region for years but at this rate it’ll be unaffordable. I’ll be damned if I spend the rest of my life in the dmv.

  281. @WowJustWow
    I think it's like when you scold a dog. Bad dog! Don't 👏🏾Jump 👏🏾On 👏🏾The 👏🏾Kitchen 👏🏾Counter.

    This is what it is. They’re a cult. Always humiliate when presenting new information.

  282. @Anonymousse
    Here’s a dramatic imagining of Congressional debate circa 2119

    https://youtu.be/94RGsTvipXs

    “raised a point of order around members who are making animal noises”

    LOL

  283. @Marcus
    Yeah what kind of madmen would object to being displaced by a tiny minority of planters and their hordes of negroes?

    You’re saying Kansas Abolitionism was like contemporary NIMBY Envirolunacy? It’s crypto-segregationist? That’s an awesome thought, whether true or not.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    The platform of Freesoilers and most Republicans (not most abolitionists per se) was "land for free white labor." They were also very nativist, even some of the abolitionists were Know-Nothings.
  284. @Anonymous
    India is what the U.S. would look like today if the Revolution had failed, and the U.S. is what India would look like today if the British had been successfully ejected in 1857.

    India is what the U.S. would look like today if the Revolution had failed

    India, Canada, one of those places.

  285. @AndrewR
    You're a strong competitor for the Most Dishonest Unz.com Commenter award, and that's really saying something

    Several people don’t like that comment. What’s dishonest about it? The 13 yo vs 17 yo thing?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Obviously the relationship between the lesbian teacher and her student is far from ideal on many levels, but that doesn't mean the relationship is abusive. Miss me with the dishonesty and false dichotomies.
  286. @istevefan

    Hitler’s own favored analogy on what he intended for the Russians, Ukrainians, et all, was how the United States dealt with the natives
     
    I recall reading about that in a history class about Nazi Germany. A big flaw in this thinking is that it did not take into consideration the extremely sparse population of hunter-gathers in the USA as opposed to the multitude of agrarians in Slavic Europe.

    Agree. A better analogy would have been what the Spanish ended up doing in Latin America. Or would have if Montezuma had thousands of T-34s.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    The Founders of the USA, Canada and Australia literally won the lottery. To be able to find resource-rich, continental-sized nations so sparsely occupied by hunter-gatherers, as late as the 1600s (1700s for Australia), was truly something. The fact that their descendants squandered it away by inviting the entire world is probably analogous to worthless heirs blowing their inheritance .
  287. @Flip
    White flight on a continental level

    https://missoulian.com/news/local/missoula-s-home-prices-soar-to-new-record-high-of/article_49a8cc41-f8ec-54ff-ade0-099276f3bdba.html

    "John Brauer, a past president of the Missoula Organization of Realtors, said out-of-state buyers with money are definitely helping to push up prices."

    Missoula is 92% white. Jobs will follow the internal refugees as European Americans rebuild their civilization away from the coastal cities.

    Yes, it’s an under-discussed phenomenon. White flight / ethnic cleansing is now happening at the State level.

  288. @nebulafox
    >Bose like FDR, Mussolini, Hitler et al was a socialist not a communist.

    Inherently, absolutist capitalism and authentic nationalism are incompatible. This used to be obvious to anyone with half a political brain.

    So Stalin was a socialist-nationalist and Hitler was a national-socialist. At some point it’s all the same stuff. This reminds me of Polonius’s introduction of the visiting players in Hamlet (it’s really Shakespeare talking about his own troupe):

    The best actors in the world, either for tragedy,
    comedy, history, pastoral, pastoral-comical,
    historical-pastoral, tragical-historical, tragical-
    comical-historical-pastoral….

    Any combination you want. It’s all the same gruel, we just put a different label on it – whatever the customer wants.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Well, essentially yeah. Stalin took Bolshevism and remade it with Russian nationalist characteristics. Hitler did something of the opposite, in institutionalizing upper-bourgeois German nationalism for the masses. Both of them got the chance to do so because the previous ruling classes had lost the right to rule, and both of them proved to have the best understanding at how to exercise power compared to the plausible alternatives.

    Politics does not take brilliance, but it does take intuition, which does need to be honed and practiced, or it'll get rusty: the last few years have been evidence enough of that. If you rest on your laurels and assume the masses will respect a clearly rotten structure when a few serious accidents happen just out of some lingering sense of social hierarchy, as they must given human nature, you won't have it when you need it. People generally don't deeply think, but they do have a rather primordial sense of what constitutes as legitimacy, and that's usually enough. America's margin for error and accumulated points to spend are probably wider and deeper than any other nation in any other point in history. But they are finite.

  289. @Jack D
    India is a wildly complicated place that few outsiders have any hope of understanding. It's not a coincidence that the story of the blind men and the elephant originated in India. India IS that elephant. Any attempt to generalize India after touching one part of it is bound to end in failure. For every moon rocket there is a herd of cows wandering in the streets (or a thousand of them). For every high tech campus there is a smoldering garbage dump with people picking thru the trash. For every national myth there are a hundred regional differences.

    Not forgetting the millions crapping in the streets.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    I have no experience with India (I do know the government has at least tried to stop the practice over the last five years), but what I can tell you is that I never saw slum-dwellers take a dump on the streets in Indonesia or the Philippines. We're talking seriously gut-wrenching poverty here, worse than anybody in America could envision for themselves, yet they still don't do it. They have social standards and some dignity. Same goes for South America, although the ghettoes aren't as poor there. (Way more violent though!)

    When I was walking through the Tenderloin, guess what I nearly stepped in... not to mention the needles and the piss bottles and other lovely artifacts.

    *Sigh*... it's so freaking embarrassing. Probably the most obvious sign of the rot, but try explaining to someone in China that the DC Metro can't get a basic extension done in 40 years, and you don't wonder why our PR stock has declined in recent decades.

  290. @The Alarmist

    And what’s the deal with the brown hands clapping emojis? Is that some Black Woman of Color thing like snapping your fingers while making the shape of a Z was back during In Living Color era?
     
    I thought that represents her bitch-slapping the fool.

    The Pirates used to do this Z thing after a big base hit —
    it’s from Dude Where’s My Car?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoltan_(hand_gesture)

  291. @Anonymous
    India is what the U.S. would look like today if the Revolution had failed, and the U.S. is what India would look like today if the British had been successfully ejected in 1857.

    Yeah right. So what about Canada?

  292. @jimmyriddle
    https://twitter.com/godblesstoto/status/1126935500961525761

    https://www.battleofideas.org.uk/speaker/lisa-graves/

    Lisa Graves is a satirist, visual artist, fine artist and graphic designer. For the past two years she has been co-writer of the infamous ‘Godfrey Elfwick’ character on Twitter, a satirical representation of ‘woke’ politics.

    https://twitter.com/godblesstoto?lang=en

  293. @Cowboy shaw
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakraborty

    There's a Chakrabati trouble maker in UK politics too:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shami_Chakrabarti

    You wait all day for a Chakrabarti and then two come along at once.

  294. @Autochthon
    I don't get it. Wait, were concentration camps filled with obese, uppity, Guateraguan men? I seem to remember from all the films and images I have seen a bunch of docile, emaciated Hebrews and Slavs of all ages and both sexes. And from the conversations I had as a child with people who escaped such places, if they'd behaved like the Guateraguans here depicted, they would not have behaved that way for long, for one of two reasons.

    Still and all, she may be on to something: perhaps it would not be a bad idea to make our facilities for detention more like the Germans' in those days. If nothing else, think of the savings on food! We don't even have to leave the detainees emaciated; we can just throttle back until they aren't chubby – which would be a benefit to their health, to boot!

    LOL

    perhaps it would not be a bad idea to make our facilities for detention more like the [Nazis’] in those days

    That’s the thing about all politics in this country today: anything the Left disagrees with gets labeled Nazism. Might be time for a movement to try some political judo and announce that they are proudly Nazis, but the good kind, who will fix the economy and get the trains to run on time.

  295. @SunBakedSuburb
    Yep, you nailed it. I hope the Justice Democrats continue their Jacobin reign of terror in the Democratic Party. It would be most illuminative for the progressive Beckys/Betsys in the party to take a gander at the hate emanating from the black and brown faces of the Squad. The Democratic Party needs to implode and moderate from the wreckage. It's obvious by now but bears repeating: Saikat Chakrabarti is the son of Indian immigrants.

    The battle is black (African-American, emphasis on American) vs brown (post-American).

  296. @Jack D
    So Stalin was a socialist-nationalist and Hitler was a national-socialist. At some point it's all the same stuff. This reminds me of Polonius's introduction of the visiting players in Hamlet (it's really Shakespeare talking about his own troupe):

    The best actors in the world, either for tragedy,
    comedy, history, pastoral, pastoral-comical,
    historical-pastoral, tragical-historical, tragical-
    comical-historical-pastoral....
     
    Any combination you want. It's all the same gruel, we just put a different label on it - whatever the customer wants.

    Well, essentially yeah. Stalin took Bolshevism and remade it with Russian nationalist characteristics. Hitler did something of the opposite, in institutionalizing upper-bourgeois German nationalism for the masses. Both of them got the chance to do so because the previous ruling classes had lost the right to rule, and both of them proved to have the best understanding at how to exercise power compared to the plausible alternatives.

    Politics does not take brilliance, but it does take intuition, which does need to be honed and practiced, or it’ll get rusty: the last few years have been evidence enough of that. If you rest on your laurels and assume the masses will respect a clearly rotten structure when a few serious accidents happen just out of some lingering sense of social hierarchy, as they must given human nature, you won’t have it when you need it. People generally don’t deeply think, but they do have a rather primordial sense of what constitutes as legitimacy, and that’s usually enough. America’s margin for error and accumulated points to spend are probably wider and deeper than any other nation in any other point in history. But they are finite.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    In both cases, the previous corrupt ruling classes were finally topped by the pressures of losing external conflict. Whiskey’s latest hobgoblin (war) has something to it.
  297. @Lurker
    Not forgetting the millions crapping in the streets.

    I have no experience with India (I do know the government has at least tried to stop the practice over the last five years), but what I can tell you is that I never saw slum-dwellers take a dump on the streets in Indonesia or the Philippines. We’re talking seriously gut-wrenching poverty here, worse than anybody in America could envision for themselves, yet they still don’t do it. They have social standards and some dignity. Same goes for South America, although the ghettoes aren’t as poor there. (Way more violent though!)

    When I was walking through the Tenderloin, guess what I nearly stepped in… not to mention the needles and the piss bottles and other lovely artifacts.

    *Sigh*… it’s so freaking embarrassing. Probably the most obvious sign of the rot, but try explaining to someone in China that the DC Metro can’t get a basic extension done in 40 years, and you don’t wonder why our PR stock has declined in recent decades.

  298. @Jack D

    One of the things I’ve had forced upon me is that the formal goals of an organization are seldom its real goals
     
    This is related to Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy:

    In any bureaucracy, the people devoted to the benefit of the bureaucracy itself always get in control and those dedicated to the goals the bureaucracy is supposed to accomplish have less and less influence, and sometimes are eliminated entirely.
     
    This is why schools are not "about" teaching, hospitals are not "about" healing the sick, etc. Indians seem to have an instinctive understanding of this and devote their main efforts to gaining control of, perpetuating and increasing the power the bureaucracy (sucking up to superiors, undermining rivals, promoting allies, etc.) and bother as little as possible with serving its ostensible goals - that gets in the way of Job #1 (OTOH give the APPEARANCE of working may be important).

    People who are naive enough to mistake the actual goals of an organization for its stated goals get eliminated because they are not playing the game. In some cases, they don't even realize that there IS a game - it's like wandering onto a battlefield and believing you are there for a picnic. The snipers will pick you off while you are still setting up the potato salad. Eventually some of the survivors realize what the real game is after seeing their best friends picked off, but they are still too idealistic to devote themselves too it fully and eventually get outplayed by those who aren't or they give up and do something else.

    Eventually some of the survivors realize what the real game is after seeing their best friends picked off, but they are still too idealistic to devote themselves too it fully and eventually get outplayed by those who aren’t or they give up and do something else.

    Next stage is that the organization becomes unable to function. The West has, historically, destroyed these organizations periodically (~each 70-80 years), usually as a block. Most recent time was the WW I and WW II time interval, which destroyed the old European Empires and (as became apparent after c.a. AD 1990) destroyed ideological empires outside the West also.
    Now we have anarchy [1] with roving predatory bands (sorry – should have read “tolerant governments with uncontrollable bureaucracies and Non Governmental Organizations such as Antifa”). It’s been over 70 years, time to reorganize.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] Catchphrase: Anarchy isn’t good, but it’s better than no government at all.

  299. @Counterinsurgency

    You’ve written several comments in this vein, regarding our current practice of looting the country to prop up urban cities. Any blog or book recommendations?
     
    Sorry about the long reply. What you're getting below is a few book references and a research methodology. Hope it helps.

    The only book I've seen that describes this is the one I've recommended previously [1].

    I'm gifted with what Dutton calls a "Genius personality" [0], which in big 5 means:
    C: low conscientiousness in routine tasks. If I don't see a reason for it, I usually won't do it.
    A: Low agreeableness, polite, but willing to disagree.
    N: Low neuroticism (low fear, stable as granite).
    O: High openness (to new concepts)
    E: Low extroversion. More interested in concepts than people.

    Unfortunately, I don't have the 160 IQ needed to make a real genius, so I sort of wander around turning over rocks. While quite a few of them have been in in engineering and computer systems, I'm also interested in social matters. I'm _particularly_ interested in why the casualty rate among the people I do know has been so high. The more education and the more service to community, the higher the casualty rate has been, and I've been hard put at times to escape becoming a casualty myself. At the same time, I've had an inside seat or been a participant in quite a few of the more significant events of the past 60 years or so.

    One of the things I've had forced upon me is that the formal goals of an organization are seldom its real goals. NASA, fo example, has a formal statement of purpose. That purpose has been whatever the Federal government assigned it, such as "establishing better relations with the USSR" and "Establishing better relations with the Islamic world". If you hear senior NASA officials griping about their jobs, the purpose of NASA is to get enough funding to meet payroll and let them progress through their careers [1]. None of this has anything to do with space travel, nor did it ever. JFK wanted a "stunt" to counter Sputnik, and to do that he dismantled a very effective USAF high altitude / space vehicle program and created NASA. Kennedy's intent was to shut down NASA after the "stunt", but lobbyists and US public opinion kept it open. NASA was actually the _end_ of a space program, not the start of one. NASA was (and is) public relations. This is more or less public knowledge among those who work or worked with it, and is fairly well documented [2,3].

    The above sort of thing also a typical sort of thing [4]. Most of the important things in life are (a) obvious once you see them, (b) not mentioned in the media, and (c) guaranteed to make people very angry once stated, but thanks to the "genius personality", I don’t really care that much. I’d rather have people upset with me than get hit by a phenomenon that’s obviously dangerous.
    One of the things that I've had forced upon me is that (a) prior to the 1950s Western capitals lived off of tax money, but after about 1970 all the American cities (and apparently all Western cities) either live off tax money, or they don’t live. Also, even today’s most successful cities are very poor compared to their past (e.g. LA, New York) [5], and appear to believe that the poor are their most important citizens.
    One can sometimes understand what’s happening by simply listening to what the people in charge are saying. They use a different word definition, but they have to make sense to their own people. The poor, the CATO4321 people [6] -_are_ vital parts of the city’s funding. Assuming 10^5 (that’s 100,000) $/(homeless person *year) cost for homeless, and 3.6*10^4 ( that’s 36,000) homeless in LA, we get 3.6*10^(5+4) = 3.6*10^9, or about 3.6 billion $/year _tax revenues for LA_. There’s money in poverty. The homeless are an important source of revenue that supports headcount and stimulates secondary taxes that can be used on deteriorating infrastructure. You see how this works. You can also see that this is killing the homeless, and that nobody in this 3.6 billion $/yr. revenue stream cares enough to take chances with the revenue stream. They don’t dare – the cities are poor and need money. I’ve met several former Civil Service employees who now drive cabs in the DC area, and if the revenue stream dried up, some city workers would find themselves competing with other Lyft drivers.
    So, yes, you can _see_ that the cities are poor and that the cities depend on tax money once the idea is introduced. I’ve just been giving an historical background for the phenomenon.
    However – I can’t do much more than the above without funding, which is not available. This is _not_ a plea for funding, just a statement of fact. So far, I’ve had three major (and several minor) research results suppressed, and I can recognize the situation. If you want to run with the idea, you might be able to do so, but be warned that the idea that “the cities are parasites and have been your entire life” isn’t going to make anybody in the cities or suburbs happy with you.
    Why am I here? Well, I’m interested in discussing the various ideas so that I can find weak points in my reasoning and observation. I recognize that quite a few plausible hypotheses are falsified by new data, so I’m looking for new data. My idea is to spot real hazards to be avoided, not to imagine hazards.
    I’m also trying to keep readers from being hurt. I’ve seen way too many people get hurt, I _really_ don’t want to see any more.
    Counterinsurgency

    0] Edward Dutton.
    "The Genius Famine"
    Search Amazon.com for Kindle book.
    You don't hear the word "Genius" anymore, and there is a rather strange reason.
    1] Marc Levinson.
    _The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger_.
    1st ed 2006; 2nd ed. has additional material.
    2] Marc Logsdon.
    _The Decision to Go to the Moon: Project Apollo and the National Interest_.
    1st ed. 1970, out of print but available from used book sources. See description in Amazon.com

    3] Walter Froelhich.
    _Space Station: The Next Logical Step NASA_.
    1987.
    Note that this book never gives any use for the space station, merely saying that it is necessary because it is “the next logical step”. This is the ideal bureaucratic argument – plausible, and a single sentence – but meant that the original space station design failed, as did the original space station implementation.

    4] In the past cities build infrastructure that these same cities cannot even keep in repair today. This extends to public health (on the West Coast) and the electrical grid (NYC, Baltimore). This poverty is spreading to entire states: consider California’s inability to institute controlled burns in its forests and the decline of PG&E’s physical infrastructure.

    5] Policy towards soldiers and veterans during the Vietnam War was conditioned by the political influence of returning veterans in WW II and the Korean war. Previously, the veterans had organized into political lobbies. The Democrats decided to avoid creating rivals drafting kids, using individual rotation, and demonizing troops upon their return from duty. They did, and it worked – no politically effective veterans’ groups outside of those supported by a Democratic faction. Of course, the sheer horror of the policy led to the gradual erosion of White support for the Democrats and their eventual policy of flooding the US with POC, but the Democrats have never been known for thinking things out.

    6] CATO4321, also “homeless”: Crazy 40%, Addicted 30%, Thinkers 20%, 0 assets/income 10%. The “Thinkers” are people who choose to live in the for whatever reason, good or bad.

    Where do you get the conversation of one homeless person to $100k? Fed programs? While it’s easy to see such money as cynical rent seeking by urban elites, whatever the conversation rate, a good fraction goes to its intended target (i.e. gets at on fire). So while losing money on each unit but making up for it in volume is typical of our alleged elite’s thought process, I don’t think money explains the urge to increase urbanization beyond our current insanely unbalanced state.

    I think it’s more about social control, and preventing any areas in fly over country from becoming attractive to people that need to work for a living. Because our state religion is utilitarianism, efficiency is the primary objective of our priest caste, the managerial elite. Now we get to the reason for alot of their insanity, as you put it, holding the net consumers to be their most important citizens. In the eyes of the elite, it is their job to spread the goods of our nation to all, and if that is your objective urbanization is one way to homogenize outcomes, both by collecting all goods to cities, and regulating their dispensation.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency

    I don’t think money explains the urge to increase urbanization beyond our current insanely unbalanced state.
     
    Every successful political idea makes money for its adherence. That's the art of politics - getting enough money to pay off the party workers and reward the blocks that vote for you. Even ideological voting blocks need some money, pittance though it be, to pay the expenses of their liaisons with the national and regional Party. Again, see Riordon's _Plunkett of Tammany Hall_ for a detailed description.

    social control, and preventing any areas in fly over country from becoming attractive to people that need to work for a living.
     
    Sure, that's part of it. The question is how to make money enough to meet payroll while accomplishing the control/flyover goals you cite. _My_ point is that the _only_ source of income for cities is political now, and has been since they lost light manufacturing and shipping. For example, social control and keeping city people in the city (as opposed to in flyover country) is clearly _not_ helped by homeless populations (CATO4321 people). The homeless people are encouraged because they are a major source of revenue _and the city must have that revenue_. Money isn't everything, but it's not nothing either.

    Where do you get the conversation of one homeless person to $100k?
    Various media reports. They range from 65K$/(person year) to 100K$/(person year). Number of homeless also is from media and varies. this morning an article claimed 58,936 CATO4321 people in Austin [1], somewhat higher than "official number" of 36,000 in LA, which was supposedly 60% of the CATO4321 people in the US. Multiply any two numbers from this range of cost and CATO4321 and you get a very large number of $/yr. Paid for by tax that would otherwise not be "necessary".
  300. @nebulafox
    Well, essentially yeah. Stalin took Bolshevism and remade it with Russian nationalist characteristics. Hitler did something of the opposite, in institutionalizing upper-bourgeois German nationalism for the masses. Both of them got the chance to do so because the previous ruling classes had lost the right to rule, and both of them proved to have the best understanding at how to exercise power compared to the plausible alternatives.

    Politics does not take brilliance, but it does take intuition, which does need to be honed and practiced, or it'll get rusty: the last few years have been evidence enough of that. If you rest on your laurels and assume the masses will respect a clearly rotten structure when a few serious accidents happen just out of some lingering sense of social hierarchy, as they must given human nature, you won't have it when you need it. People generally don't deeply think, but they do have a rather primordial sense of what constitutes as legitimacy, and that's usually enough. America's margin for error and accumulated points to spend are probably wider and deeper than any other nation in any other point in history. But they are finite.

    In both cases, the previous corrupt ruling classes were finally topped by the pressures of losing external conflict. Whiskey’s latest hobgoblin (war) has something to it.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Indeed. I am on record as stating that the Bolsheviks and Fascists would have never came to power but for a civilizational catastrophe that completely discredited old elites beyond repair-which is exactly what WWI was. It didn't just that, but it mortally wounded Old Europe for good.

    In the case of the Bolsheviks, their constant infighting over what to ordinary people is nothing more than jargon is disturbingly reminiscent of future generations of inferior leftists. But they had the Tsarist secret police doing everything they could to-quite successfully under Stolypin-encourage their innately self-destructive tendencies. The Tsarist autocracy had very deep structural issues that probably were going to force it to eventually change or die by the 1900s, and unlike England or France, they were coming to the change away from absolutism too late to not involve the masses. But there's a big gap between that and Lenin in power.

  301. @PiltdownMan

    Okay, but why are the emojis clapping between what the House Democrats are saying to insult the AOC crowd?
     
    Perhaps the emojis are meant to convey that Saikat is being slapped in the face once after each word as he's being told to shut up?

    lol

  302. @Hunsdon
    In a similar vein, when in Ulaan Bator, one does not talk smack about Genghis. He is regarded, unapologetically, as a national hero. Genghis Khan is one of my favorite people ever.

    How many murders, rapes, burnings, civilization destruction, genocide, total domination of an entire continent does a guy have to commit to get a little respect?

    I thought something like 20% of Asia descends from GK due to his and his immediate male relatives rape and pillage campaigns. Where’s the Me Too of central Asia?

  303. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde

    Trump poured fuel on the fire by sticking up for Pelosi
     
    ahahahhahhah Trump at his finest! Helping out San Fran Nan in her time of need.

    What’s the 4D chess here?

  304. @Altai
    OT: The 'Black Vests' strike again.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48969438

    Hundreds of undocumented migrants have stormed the Panthéon in Paris and demanded the right to remain in France.

    The protesters, who were mainly from West Africa, surged into the building at around midday (11:00 GMT) on Friday.

    Tourists were evacuated from the mausoleum, where many of France's most famous figures are buried.

    The group called themselves the "black vests" - a reference to the yellow vest protest movement that spread through much of France earlier this year.

    They waved papers in the air, chanted, and demanded to hold talks with Prime Minister Édouard Philippe over their immigration status.
     
    Their famous slogan "France does not belong to the French!" sounds like a war goad if ever I heard one.
    Who is putting them up to this? They're getting more international press than the yellow vests anyway.

  305. @Jack D
    You really have to put these facts into context. History is not black and white. In the case of Ft. Pillow, Forrest had the fort surrounded and called for its surrender. The Union commander stalled, knowing that reinforcements were on their way. Forrest gave the Yankees 20 minutes to surrender and when they didn't do so, he order the fort to be stormed.

    Arguably, because the fort had not formally surrendered, the troops were fair game. No doubt the feeling that the Union commander had been playing dirty pool by stalling instead of honorably surrendering when he had the chance influenced the Confederate actions. It is generally not in the interest of armies to kill troops who surrender, both for reasons of reciprocity and also because if the other side knows that the enemy will take no prisoners they will fight to the last man and it will require more sacrifices of your own troops to defeat them.

    In the case of the KKK, it has to be understood that several different (and largely unrelated) organizations have carried that name (just as "Nazis" today have little to do with the Nazis of the Third Reich). The original KKK was formed in reaction to the excesses of the triumphant Yankees who put unqualified black people in charge of entire states. Black people didn't have the background or experience at that point to run an orderly society (putting aside whether there are other factors that will prevent this from ever happening anywhere outside of movie fantasies) - the result would have been Zimbabwe - like if they had been allowed to continue without resistance. Everyone, even the blacks themselves, would have ended up being worse off. Nevertheless, when the Klan itself spiraled into excess and terrorism, Forrest quickly distanced himself from it.

    You really have to put these facts into context. History is not black and white.

    It appears to be for whoever wrote that Wikipedia article. And some of those do not appear to be facts. I don’t think Forrest was among the founders of the first Klan, despite being their leader. I guess if it’s repeated enough times that he founded the KKK, then he did found it.

    But whatever were the circunstances at Fort Pillow, and whatever was the American situation when the Klan was first founded, et cetera, those are just details; Forrest was an evil, evil man, he’s guilty of being evil, and that’s all we need to know about him — so I’m told.

  306. @gabriel alberton
    Searching for ''Nathan Bedford Forrest'' in my country's version of Google returns his Wikipedia article in my native language, which does not mention that he was a Confederate general in the lede, despite the Google search listing his Civil War battles and suggesting other Confederate generals as related searches. The infobox mentions he was a lieutenant general, and ''General Forrest'' is said to be referenced in the Forrest Gump film. No further details are given about his military service.

    What the Wikipedia article does mention in detail is that he was a slave trader, that he founded the Ku Klux Klan after the Civil War (in the article, excluding the references, that's the only mention of the American Civil War), and that his troops massacred black soldiers who had surrendered at Fort Pillow. The first thing after his name in the Google search is ''slave trader''. To someone who didn't know who he was, I imagine those omissions would look strange.

    The English Wikipedia does mention that he was a general in addition to being a slave trader and the founder of the KKK, as I imagine any proper reference to him does. It still omits, in the first paragraph of the lede, that white soldiers were also massacred at Fort Pillow, but does mention them later on.

    The Ft. Pillow “massacre” was a real event blown entirely out of proportion by Northern propaganda. History continues to play it up because of its animus against Forrest.

  307. @Jack D
    This would be a very damning statement if it was true, but it's just an Islamic hoax:

    https://www.camera.org/article/florida-newspaper-publishes-hoax-quote-accusing-the-jewish-people-of-controlling-america/

    Islamists and other anti-Semites have a lot in common - they are both willing/eager to believe the worst about Jews without any regard for truth.

    I’m a fan of the ”Ouze Merham” ”interview” myself.

  308. @Lot
    The British were are lot better at imperialism than Germany or Japan, allowing them to keep India for a long time without much force. “Axis wins the war” already implies Japanese occupation of China, Korea, parts of Siberia, Philippines and Indochina. Add India to this?

    France, Spain and Holland are the only other nations to show even close to that skill level at non-European Imperialism.

    The British were are lot better at imperialism than Germany or Japan, allowing them to keep India for a long time without much force.

    Due to constant practice on the part of the English, initially within the archipelago. I’d rather tackle angry rice-farmers, no matter how numerous, than native Scots, Irish and Welsh (occasionally in combination) with the added spice of extremely violent Danish and Norse colonists. We learned to ride the tiger fairly early on. Easy does it, only apply the iron fist in the last resort. Use the Law (before which all are equal) instead. A lesson the Prussians, for instance, are apparently incapable of absorbing.

    And anyway, Brit imperialism was latterly a desperate attempt to front-run the blasted French, to all corners of the world including India, the Pacific and North America.
    Probably still is.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Use the Law (before which all are equal) instead. A lesson the Prussians, for instance, are apparently incapable of absorbing.

    That's presumably whom Kipling called "Lesser breeds without the Law".

    , @Desiderius

    And anyway, Brit imperialism was latterly a desperate attempt to front-run the blasted French
     
    Or to keep pace with the Dutch.
    , @Dr Van Nostrand

    Due to constant practice on the part of the English, initially within the archipelago. I’d rather tackle angry rice-farmers, no matter how numerous, than native Scots, Irish and Welsh (occasionally in combination) with the added spice of extremely violent Danish and Norse colonists. We learned to ride the tiger fairly early on. Easy does it, only apply the iron fist in the last resort. Use the Law (before which all are equal) instead. A lesson the Prussians, for instance, are apparently incapable of absorbing.
     
    Your English history is a bit off. England had paid Danegeld but no sooner they were rid of them in came the Normans and ruled England with barely any resistance for a few hundred years so much so that AngloSaxon farmers and herders werent even allowed to enjoy the fruit of their efforts. Hence the word for cow is Anglo Saxon but cow meat is beef which is French.
    .025
    British conquest of India was hardly a cake walk. Also Indias population density was actually rather low in those days. It really took off in the late 1800s.It took approximately more than 120 years to gain control of the entire subcontinent and that too was only possible due to India not being a nation state but a collection of warring ethnic groups who were used against each other. Generally speaking apart from say Wellington and Munro, English were more Ulysses than Achilles.
    The "rice farmers" lost not because they were bad warriors .Au contraire they were great warriors as attested to by Dutch, Portuguese(who called Nairs the best soldiers in the world) and British observers. But they were terrible soldiers. A distinction lost on many. British trained and retained the best native soldiery and hence won in the end.
  309. @Mr. Blank
    Would someone kindly explain to me why South Asians seem so heavily overrepresented among the ranks of SJW cultural enforcers? Why do they all seem to aspire to be the Woke Joseph Goebbels?

    It’s becoming really, really tiresome. Anti-semites are forever putting (((echoes))) around the names of Jews, but personally I’m more struck by the fact that every time I read an article or see a book or a video clip of someone lecturing me about how I’m both a bad person and a bad American, it’s nearly always someone who’s barely off the boat from New Delhi. My roots stretch back to Colonial times and my ancestors fought in the American Revolution, but a guy named “Saikat Chakrabarti” wants to lecture ME about the proper way to be an American. The NERVE!

    Am I the only one who thinks this will end very badly, and is angry at our leaders for allowing this to happen? Sure, call me a “white nationalist” or whatever, if that makes you feel better. But can you point to a single society in human history where importing a highly visible foreign overclass to push around the natives hasn’t ended in a bloody disaster?

    Would someone kindly explain to me why South Asians seem so heavily overrepresented among the ranks of SJW cultural enforcers?

    they’re taking over from Jews as the leaders of the anti-white coalition.

  310. @Expletive Deleted

    The British were are lot better at imperialism than Germany or Japan, allowing them to keep India for a long time without much force.
     
    Due to constant practice on the part of the English, initially within the archipelago. I'd rather tackle angry rice-farmers, no matter how numerous, than native Scots, Irish and Welsh (occasionally in combination) with the added spice of extremely violent Danish and Norse colonists. We learned to ride the tiger fairly early on. Easy does it, only apply the iron fist in the last resort. Use the Law (before which all are equal) instead. A lesson the Prussians, for instance, are apparently incapable of absorbing.

    And anyway, Brit imperialism was latterly a desperate attempt to front-run the blasted French, to all corners of the world including India, the Pacific and North America.
    Probably still is.

    Use the Law (before which all are equal) instead. A lesson the Prussians, for instance, are apparently incapable of absorbing.

    That’s presumably whom Kipling called “Lesser breeds without the Law”.

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    Always been a bit of argy-bargy here over what old Rudders actually meant.
    Depends on the emphasis.
    Lesser breeds (ok, understood) sans (o god that's french I think I'm going to spew) any legal or moral encumbrance and therefore expected to be savages ..
    versus
    The same, but placed "beyond the Pale" (e.g. Irish, Welsh, Scots &c.) and therefore not benefitting from English Law even though nominal Christians (benefit of clergy if churchmen, i.e. the right not to be dismembered on the spot). Legitimate targets.

    Preussers fall into the first category.

    Sorry for the incoherence. Still 'recovering' from the horrid stress of this afternoon at Lord's. Thank goodness that the Kiwis are proper gentlemen. "A damn' close-run thing" and all that.
  311. @nebulafox
    Part of the reason Hitler seems so anachronistic to observers is because his war against the USSR was, at heart, an old-style 18th/19th Century style colonial war of conquest. Crusade against Bolshevism it might have been, but in the peculiarly dual character Barbarossa took, it was the colonial impetus-and here, Hitler shows his link with the bygone 19th Century-that really drove it. The only difference was that the target was an old European power: and the scale of destruction enabled by modern technology and ideology was far greater than any comparable enterprise. The Nazis also did not understand the intricate bureaucracy and, even more vitally, the cooperation with local elites that enabled British rule in India under the surface.

    Hitler's own favored analogy on what he intended for the Russians, Ukrainians, et all, was how the United States dealt with the natives. The Jews were thought of as too much of a threat (essentially akin to negative Ubermenschen) to the new order of things to be given this treatment, so they were to be exterminated preemptively.

    Part of the reason Hitler seems so anachronistic to observers is because his war against the USSR was, at heart, an old-style 18th/19th Century style colonial war of conquest.

    Sort of. But not quite like the British in India. Hitler had dreams of a world in which Germans would live an idyllic rural life on small family farms. He thought urban life was evil and destructive. He wanted an agrarian utopia. That’s why in the long term his plans required the removal (one way or another) of the existing inhabitants of the conquered lands. A bit like the pioneer days in the U.S. – get rid of the subhuman natives and every German would have a little house on the prairie.

    Hitler was kind of like an imperialist environmentalist hippie. Right down to the vegetarianism and the animal rights agenda.

    His plans were of course totally insane. He was typical of many radical environmentalists really – get rid of the surplus people and the remainder would live a back-to-nature existence. There seemed to be a lot of this kind of craziness in early 20th century Germany. The nudist cult was very big there.

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