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From PBS.org:

The Missing Papers

One of the more controversial topics involving Nikola Tesla is what became of many of his technical and scientific papers after he died in 1943. Just before his death at the height of World War II, he claimed that he had perfected his so-called “death beam.” So it was natural that the FBI and other U.S. Government agencies would be interested in any scientific ideas involving weaponry. Some were concerned that Tesla’s papers might fall into the hands of the Axis powers or the Soviets.

The morning after the inventor’s death, his nephew Sava Kosanovic´ hurried to his uncle’s room at the Hotel New Yorker. He was an up-and-coming Yugoslav official with suspected connections to the communist party in his country. By the time he arrived, Tesla’s body had already been removed, and Kosanovic suspected that someone had already gone through his uncle’s effects. Technical papers were missing as well as a black notebook he knew Tesla kept—a notebook with several hundred pages, some of which were marked “Government.”

P. E. Foxworth, assistant director of the New York FBI office, was called in to investigate. According to Foxworth, the government was “vitally interested” in preserving Tesla’s papers. Two days after Tesla’s death, representatives of the Office of Alien Property went to his room at the New Yorker Hotel and seized all his possessions.

This is a rather boringly bureaucratic way of putting it. The FBI was run by J. Edgar Hoover.

Dr. John G. Trump, an electrical engineer with the National Defense Research Committee of the Office of Scientific Research and Development, was called in to analyze the Tesla papers in OAP custody. Following a three-day investigation, Dr. Trump concluded:

His [Tesla’s] thoughts and efforts during at least the past 15 years were primarily of a speculative, philosophical, and somewhat promotional character often concerned with the production and wireless transmission of power; but did not include new, sound, workable principles or methods for realizing such results.

Or so Dr. Trump said …

Where have we heard that name before?

From Wikipedia:

John George Trump (August 21, 1907 – February 21, 1985) was an American electrical engineer, inventor, and physicist. A professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology from 1936 to 1973, he was a recipient of U.S. President Ronald Reagan’s National Medal of Science and a member of the National Academy of Engineering.[3][4][5] John Trump was noted for developing rotational radiation therapy.[3] Together with Robert J. Van de Graaff, he developed one of the first million-volt X-ray generators. He was the paternal uncle of Donald Trump, who would later go on to become the 45th president of the United States.

I don’t really like comic books, but I like history that sounds like a comic book. That J. Edgar Hoover sent Donald Trump’s uncle to investigate Nikola Tesla’s secret papers sounds like the plot for a Captain America movie.

 
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  1. Chances that the papers Trump found there led directly to some of his own work? Over 50%?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Death Rays? I bet Dr. Trump discovered Mind Control Rays.
    , @Polynikes
    Guessing he didn't get to solely view them in a vacuum. He just wrote the final report. As we've seen from the FBI recently, you don't even have to know what is in a report to have authored it.
    , @Oddsbodkins
    I doubt it. Despite the claims of the weird clutch of Tesla-worshippers, he was pretty useless as an inventor after 1900.
    , @Anonymous
    Trump and his family are obviously intelligent, but there is also a dastardly streak that seems to run in the family that would raise the odds of this sort of thing.

    Trump's grandfather emigrated from his native Germany without notifying authorities and avoided mandatory military service. In the US, his grandfather ran a hotel and brothel out West.

    Trump's father pretended to be Swedish and was of course in real estate development, which is a sleazy industry that tends to attract and reward dastardly types, especially in New York City. Trump went into real estate and developed a reputation for stiffing contractors and creditors. Then went on to succeed in showbiz and politics.
  2. Is it OK to say Trump was right?

  3. @AlexT
    Chances that the papers Trump found there led directly to some of his own work? Over 50%?

    Death Rays? I bet Dr. Trump discovered Mind Control Rays.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Gordo

    Death Rays? I bet Dr. Trump discovered Mind Control Rays.
     
    Nah, it was John Logie Baird who invented television.
    , @AlexT
    Have any of the Tesla papers been released? Do we really know what was in them? I tend to be suspicious of govt. agencies saying 'nothing to see here'. That isn't proof that there was something to see but still.
    , @bored identity
    Also Trump provides Open Wireless for Third Shi!tholes' enthusiasts ...
    , @Redneck farmer
    Don't forget the Deplorable Wave Theory.
    , @Verymuchalive
    So that his nephew could use them to get elected President in the 21st Century.
    The Democrats really are moronic. They've spent the last 3 years hyperventilating over non-existent Russian interference when they should have been looking at the Trump Mind Control Rays. I bet Donny uses them again in 2020 and wins even bigger.
    , @syonredux
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_gsfQS7oxY
  4. Quite obviously the top floor of Trump Tower is a Tesla time machine. Now that really does explain a lot.

  5. @Steve Sailer
    Death Rays? I bet Dr. Trump discovered Mind Control Rays.

    Death Rays? I bet Dr. Trump discovered Mind Control Rays.

    Nah, it was John Logie Baird who invented television.

    • LOL: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    LOL

    BTW John Logie Baird heroically picked up the earliest concepts and took them to their limits to create and refine electro-mechanical television. The best it could provide was an extremely low resolution image of a simple subject. A barely-recognizeable, talking face was all you got.

    Philo Farnsworth came up with an all-electronic solution to that problem. Vladimir Zworykin and David Sarnoff then stole Farnsworth's invention and improved it and added to it for RCA. That company, its NBC network, and others then went on to develop a monster that served the powers that be. NBC television was born a bastard and still is.

    , @syonredux

    Philo Taylor Farnsworth (August 19, 1906 – March 11, 1971) was an American inventor and television pioneer.[2][3] He made many crucial contributions to the early development of all-electronic television.[4] He is best known for his 1927 invention of the first fully functional all-electronic image pickup device (video camera tube), the image dissector, as well as the first fully functional and complete all-electronic television system.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo_Farnsworth
  6. @Steve Sailer
    Death Rays? I bet Dr. Trump discovered Mind Control Rays.

    Have any of the Tesla papers been released? Do we really know what was in them? I tend to be suspicious of govt. agencies saying ‘nothing to see here’. That isn’t proof that there was something to see but still.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    It would be amazing if it turned out Tesla helped with the Manhattan project.
  7. Seriously, though, it perhaps says something about Trump’s IQ. His dad must have been 130+, his uncle 150+. His kids are well-spoken and I’m guessing about 135.

    Yet he, the most wildly successful of the bunch, based on accomplishments a historically great figure, who ran and won a Quixotic one-man campaign against the arrayed forces of evil and temporal power, which no-one else could conceivably have done, invariably sounds like a complete effing moron. With a tenuous grasp of the facts or legal principles or ideology or the underlying reasons for things being as they are.

    If you listened to him without knowledge of his achievements, you would judge him a generous 110 IQ, but with an EQ (Energy Quotient) of 250.

    Is he:
    1) An idiot savant at winning;
    2) So smart we can’t fathom his ways;
    3) Acting dumb;
    4) The luckiest bastard ever born;
    5) Divinely blessed; or
    6) All of the above.

    • Replies: @pater eusebius tenebrarum
    @ PseudonymousMe - There is no need to speculate or attempt an analysis. The God Emperor's mind is beyond the ken of mere mortals. We can only watch slack-jawed as he smites his enemies and performs his MAGA magic. Whether Tesla death rays are part of his arsenal is likely to remain a secret as well.
    , @bomag
    I'd vote for 1) An idiot savant at winning.

    I've known successful people who didn't have polish or book smarts, but they had focus and an "eye for the battlefield".

    Trump has a knack for quickly reading people and situations that pretty much carries him through.
    , @Flip
    "Clown genius" per Scott Adams

    https://www.scottadamssays.com/2015/08/13/clown-genius/
    , @BengaliCanadianDude

    his uncle 150+
     
    Talk about a badestimate. No way its above a 150. People really dont understand how big these numbers are.


    Ivanka and Eric are definitely not "well-spoken".

    Intelligence is also not a hundred percent genetic.

    There is also regression to the mean.

    4 is your best bet
    , @Counterinsurgency
    A language is composed of dialects. Each dialect is used by a particular group, and is (in a way) a professional patois. A dialect's expresses common abstractions of common situations for the dialect using group, and is learned through immersion and practice.

    Example: A non-native speaker might ask a Mexican grocer "Tiene huevos hoy?" (do you have any eggs today?), but the answer will occasionally be "Si! Dos Grandes!" (Yes! Two big ones!). No real way to predict this unless you actually use the language.

    Trump speaks NYC Real Estate when addressing his followers, and NYC Trash Talk when addressing his political opponents. Trump is proficient in both dialects. What else would be possible, considering his life history? Strangely enough, both dialects contain the basics of political discourse and economics, although expressed with less circumspection than the same basics expressed in, say, sociology dialect, and more realism than, say, Marxist dialect.

    Counterinsurgency
    , @Anonymous

    Is he:
    1) An idiot savant at winning;
    2) So smart we can’t fathom his ways;
    3) Acting dumb;
    4) The luckiest bastard ever born;
    5) Divinely blessed; or
    6) All of the above.
     
    Trump can’t see into the future or play 5-D chess, etc. Please, so stupid. It’s obvious that Trump taps into a loop in the space-time continuum so he can access one of the parallel inverse mirror universes in the multiverse . For Trump ever day is kind of like the recursion in Groundhog Day. That also explains his inhuman confidence level.

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/media.muckrack.com/portfolio/images/592329/469994_groundhog.jpg.220x220_q85_crop.jpg
    , @Don't Look at Me
    If you look at older video of him on talk shows in the early 1990s, he is very well spoken and sharp. I think he's just gotten older and senility is setting in.

    Even so, still better than Hillary.
    , @AnonAnon
    3 - acting dumb [as a fox]

    If you listen to him answer the press he’s pretty quick on his feet, unlike Obama, who truly is in the 110 range. My guesstimate of Trump’s IQ is he’s in the 138 range. I don’t think you can call any billionaire dumb, but if we’re going to submit not-so-bright billionaires my top pick is Tom Steyer.

    , @Olorin
    Despite being a New Yorker, DJT is a Philly punk.

    Which is to say a Quantum Punk.

    https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/punk-city-robert-laird/1125287001

    A bit like a member of the Sailer commentariat, Discordian faith, or Church of the SubGenius. Only much earlier, and while "the internet" was merely some gawky and quirky emergent technical interface spritzed out of DARPA for experimental use by a handful of geeks at places like Penn Engineering, Wharton, and Annenberg to compare big ugly sets of numbers across the continent or seas.

    , @Anon
    One thing Howard Gardner did not really talk about was Executive Intelligence. There is a type of practical intelligence in which a person sees a human problem and gets it fixed. A good executive can see a solution during an emergency in one split second and start solving it while everyone else is still in shock and is too dazed to figure out what to do. A good general shows this in battle. Trump does not lose his head or nerves in a crisis or under any amount of pressure. He just goes on the attack when other people would be reeling back.
    , @anonymous

    If you listened to him without knowledge of his achievements, you would judge him a generous 110 IQ, but with an EQ (Energy Quotient) of 250.
     
    Since we are listing "quotients" distribution, let me add a couple for the pompous Orange-utan;

    Morality Quotient 25
    Spirituality Quotient 26
    ... ?

    A sorry excuse for a human, indeed!!

  8. Anon[294] • Disclaimer says:

    I give Tesla credit for alternating current. Immigrants get the job done! But wireless transmission of power: After a century and still no wireless transmission of power, I can only assume that this was an unfortunate left turn and brain fart on his part, right? Have physicists or engineers ever explained why his ideas were bunk?

    • Replies: @guest
    Tesla had more than one brain fart. For instance, he figured radio static must be proof of intelligent alien life.

    That's a peril of drawing wild conclusions on things no one understands, I suppose.
    , @Alfa158
    Wireless transmission of power would work, and you could simply put up antenna to get electrical power out of thin air.
    All you have to do is saturate the environment in lethal levels of microwave radiation. Tesla never saw a microwave oven, and apparently it didn’t occur to him that high levels of RF might damage your tissues.
  9. Armed with the power of death rays, zero-point energy, anti-gravity, and teleportation, the Trump Dynasty proceeded to…build stuff? Then get a t.v. show. Then…Make America Great Again, just as Hoover would want.

  10. One of the more controversial topics involving Nikola Tesla is what became of many of his technical and scientific papers after he died in 1943. Just before his death at the height of World War II, he claimed that he had perfected his so-called “death beam.”

    Yeah, well, at least the FBI didn’t entrap him and give him thirty years after a bogus show trial…

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/06/fbi-alleged-kkk-member-wacky-terrorist-death-ray-plot/314087/

  11. Tesla was right – he promoted high-voltage alternating current solutions for power distribution.

    Edison was being the Microsoft of his day.

    But “Death Rays” were a 100% fantasy construct.

    • LOL: George
  12. Any chance that the FBI tried to recruit Dr. Trump’s nephew, Donald?

  13. Meanwhile, the Modern Reboot of the 90s crypto war is going into higher gear:

    Backdoors won’t weaken your encryption, wails FBI boss. And he’s right. They won’t – they’ll fscking torpedo it: Give it a Wray, give it a Wray, give it a Wray now: Big Chris steps in to defend blowing a hole in personal crypto

    “I know we’ve started hearing increasingly from experts like cryptographers and cryptologists that there are solutions to be had that account for both strong cybersecurity and the need for lawful access,” he rumbled on. “And I believe those solutions will be even better if we seek them together.”

    We are also hearing increasingly from experts that the Earth is actually flat. Doesn’t make it true. For now, no politicial carriage could be leashed to that idea, so it hasn’t been used yet. It’s probably just a matter of time until someone in administration will officially endorse that idea to get some law passed.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    We are also hearing increasingly from experts that the Earth is actually flat.
     
    I hate to nitpick, but I feel confident that no one any reasonable person would characterize as "an expert" on much of anything, is promoting the idea that the world is flat.
  14. @Steve Sailer
    Death Rays? I bet Dr. Trump discovered Mind Control Rays.

    Also Trump provides Open Wireless for Third Shi!tholes’ enthusiasts …

  15. The fact that the Government seized his papers was probably a big factor in the construction of the Tesla Cult. Tesla was a gifted, if weird, electrical engineer, who invented a lot of useful equipment for AC power transmission. Then he became simply a dapper, eccentric crank. He did not invent a bunch of Buck Rogers technology that the government (or the Free Masons, or the Illuminati, or the Jews) then suppressed. I think a lot of the cultish hype built up around Tesla is due to the fact that he was exotically ethnic and gave off a Svengali vibe – he looked like Frank Zappa (or vice versa). If he looked like Peter Lorre, and his name had been Irving Krantz, he’d have been just another nameless inventor of yore.

  16. @AlexT
    Chances that the papers Trump found there led directly to some of his own work? Over 50%?

    Guessing he didn’t get to solely view them in a vacuum. He just wrote the final report. As we’ve seen from the FBI recently, you don’t even have to know what is in a report to have authored it.

  17. @Steve Sailer
    Death Rays? I bet Dr. Trump discovered Mind Control Rays.

    Don’t forget the Deplorable Wave Theory.

  18. A few things here:

    1. Trump obviously comes from a bright, intellectual family – uncle MIT professor, sister Federal judge, Trump graduates from Penn. But his image among Leftists is that he is childlike.

    2. Tesla died at 86 (in the days when that was even older than today). It’s a nice movie plot to imagine that Tesla really did have the secret of Death Rays in his notes but chances are that his best inventing days were over by the time he died and what Uncle Trump said was true.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    These secret death rays, apart from being at odds with known-true principle of physics, surely would have been unpacked at the latest during Reagan's SDI...
    , @PiltdownMan

    Trump obviously comes from a bright, intellectual family – uncle MIT professor, sister Federal judge, Trump graduates from Penn. But his image among Leftists is that he is childlike.
     
    I agree, and mentioned something along the same lines in a comment last year.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/tesla-trump-and-death-rays/#comment-2632446


    Mr. Sailer replied


    The last President to have a distinguished relative outside of politics might have been Eisenhower, whose brother Milton was a famous university president.

    The two Romneys were highly successful in business but they didn’t get to be President, the earlier two McCains in the navy. Dukakis had a cousin who won a Best Supporting Actress Oscar in “Moonstruck.”

    Teddy Roosevelt had numerous descendants who rose high in the military and the deep state. As far down as Teddy Roosevelt V was I think a Navy SEAL before becoming a Wall Streeter.

    President Taft’s son Robert was another politician, but a distinguished one.

    It’s pretty interesting how few really distinguished relatives presidents and their opponents have had.
     

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/tesla-trump-and-death-rays/#comment-2632641
    , @syonredux

    Trump obviously comes from a bright, intellectual family – uncle MIT professor, sister Federal judge, Trump graduates from Penn. But his image among Leftists is that he is childlike.
     
    The problem there is that people confuse intelligence with possessing intellectual interests. Some very smart people are simply not interested in matters pertaining to the arts and the sciences. For example, I know a guy who has a law degree from Boalt Hall (did quite well, graduated in the top ten percent of his class, etc), but he has no interest in intellectual matters. He doesn't read books that do not pertain to his field, never goes to art galleries, only watches low-brow films and tv, etc.
  19. John says: • Website

    What I’ll be doing after work, over my sundowner: decoding the Serbian Wikipedia article on Sava Kosanovic. Like many people from that part of the world, he packed a lot of…something into a not very long life. At some point after WWII he happened to be Yugoslavia’s ambassador to Mexico. At some point before WWII he was sentenced under a Law Concerning The Protection Of The Country and confined to the region of his birth. 1943 would have been a most interesting time to be representing Yugoslavia at all, as the country was presumed by many to have gone out of existence, pretty much only the Communists had the vision and the will to keep it going, but even the existence of Tito was uncertain.

    Yugoslavia lasted, one way or another, only from 1929 to 1991; and yet it abides somehow and may be a permanently remarkable place. If only to its talkative heirs: besides Serbian Wikipedia there are Croatian and Serbo-Croatian and they are not the same. I for one contrast the place with many Central American countries, which were around before Yugoslavia, still are, and have accomplished nothing memorable; and with many African countries, which were conceived well after Yugoslavia was and should’ve had their tickets punched sooner. Yet there is no indication that any of this is ever going to change. If Zaire and Honduras were totally depopulated, First-Worlders would insist that they were still on the map, still sovereign nations.

    • Replies: @Epigon
    The guy was a total piece of subversive shit.
    He was a member of a fifth column “Serb” party that undermined the government and Serb interests in Yugoslavia.
    He was implicated in the British- and Black Hand remnant-orchestrated March 1941 coup.
    Even worse, he falsified the nature of Croat genocidal state by claiming they were going after Croats as well, and that Serbs and Croats should fight together.

    You guessed it correctly, he was a prominent Freemason and Yugocommunist as well.

    His final impact? Ordering the cremation of Nikola Tesla’s body against his own wishes - a devout Orthodox Christian born to a Orthodox priest family wanted Christian burial.

    His descendants live in Croatia, where Serbs went from 30% to 3% - what a surprise.
  20. anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:

    long-running 4chan joke that he discovered a time machine. how else to explain just how lucky Donald seems to be vis a vis his enemies?

    • Replies: @prime noticer
    "how else to explain just how lucky Donald seems to be vis a vis his enemies?"

    a few months ago the governor of Puerto Rico was threatening to punch Trump in the mouth, now he's resigning.

    Trump luck is astronomical. or it's a time machine. one or the other.
  21. @Steve Sailer
    Death Rays? I bet Dr. Trump discovered Mind Control Rays.

    So that his nephew could use them to get elected President in the 21st Century.
    The Democrats really are moronic. They’ve spent the last 3 years hyperventilating over non-existent Russian interference when they should have been looking at the Trump Mind Control Rays. I bet Donny uses them again in 2020 and wins even bigger.

  22. I can see President Trump taking over global television and smart phone transmissions sometime soon, demanding that the world get rid of his political enemies or else! And then giving us all a demonstration of his new death ray by destroying the UN building (the UN building, mainly because they spent way too much money on a remodel back in the 90s).

  23. That J. Edgar Hoover sent Donald Trump’s uncle to investigate Nikola Tesla’s secret papers sounds like the plot for a Captain America movie.

    Or a Little Richard song:

    Gonna tell Aunt Elora ’bout Uncle John
    He claim he has the death Ray but he’s havin’ a lot of fun
    Oh baby, yeah baby, woo
    Havin’ me some fun tonight, yeah

    As for Aunt Elora, it looks like Ivanka wasn’t the first Trump to marry a Jew. Laura’s mother was a Gordon, a surname split approximately 2-1 among Scottish and Jewish bearers. Elora, Ontario, home to a famous gorge, was founded by Scots. Maybe John was taken in? After all, brother Fred married a Scot.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    I doubt this. Elora's maiden name was Sauerbrun, which is an echt German name carried by approximately 0 Jews. Intermarriage was once much more rare than it is now. Chances are much greater that he married a fellow German-Scot.
  24. @Jack D
    A few things here:

    1. Trump obviously comes from a bright, intellectual family - uncle MIT professor, sister Federal judge, Trump graduates from Penn. But his image among Leftists is that he is childlike.

    2. Tesla died at 86 (in the days when that was even older than today). It's a nice movie plot to imagine that Tesla really did have the secret of Death Rays in his notes but chances are that his best inventing days were over by the time he died and what Uncle Trump said was true.

    These secret death rays, apart from being at odds with known-true principle of physics, surely would have been unpacked at the latest during Reagan’s SDI…

  25. Regarding Death Rays (I think the following quote is relevant, both with regard to Uncle John and with regard to the attitude of his nephew (and partial namesake) toward war:

    James Melcher, Trump’s lab director, is quoted as saying: “John, over a period of three decades, would be approached by people of all sorts because he could make megavolt beams of ions and electrons – death rays. … What did he do with it? Cancer research, sterilizing sludge out in Deer Island [a waste disposal facility], all sorts of wondrous things. He didn’t touch the weapons stuff.”

    The usual Dem party line is that Republicans are war mongers even though most wars are started by Democrats. This is one angle that they have not really been able to play effectively against Trump.

  26. The family resemblance between the young John G. Trump and his nephew, Donald, is easy to see.

  27. @Jack D
    A few things here:

    1. Trump obviously comes from a bright, intellectual family - uncle MIT professor, sister Federal judge, Trump graduates from Penn. But his image among Leftists is that he is childlike.

    2. Tesla died at 86 (in the days when that was even older than today). It's a nice movie plot to imagine that Tesla really did have the secret of Death Rays in his notes but chances are that his best inventing days were over by the time he died and what Uncle Trump said was true.

    Trump obviously comes from a bright, intellectual family – uncle MIT professor, sister Federal judge, Trump graduates from Penn. But his image among Leftists is that he is childlike.

    I agree, and mentioned something along the same lines in a comment last year.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/tesla-trump-and-death-rays/#comment-2632446

    Mr. Sailer replied

    The last President to have a distinguished relative outside of politics might have been Eisenhower, whose brother Milton was a famous university president.

    The two Romneys were highly successful in business but they didn’t get to be President, the earlier two McCains in the navy. Dukakis had a cousin who won a Best Supporting Actress Oscar in “Moonstruck.”

    Teddy Roosevelt had numerous descendants who rose high in the military and the deep state. As far down as Teddy Roosevelt V was I think a Navy SEAL before becoming a Wall Streeter.

    President Taft’s son Robert was another politician, but a distinguished one.

    It’s pretty interesting how few really distinguished relatives presidents and their opponents have had.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/tesla-trump-and-death-rays/#comment-2632641

    • Replies: @snorlax
    Gerald Ford's grandfather was pretty impressive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Henry_King
    , @Doc Dynamo
    "The last President to have a distinguished relative outside of politics might have been Eisenhower, whose brother Milton was a famous university president."


    You're forgetting Billy Carter, the renowned philosopher and beer entrepreneur.
    , @Barnard
    Of course if it hadn't been for the prestige of his father and grandfather, John McCain would have been dishonorably discharged long before he even made it to Vietnam.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    The last President to have a distinguished relative outside of politics might have been Eisenhower, whose brother Milton was a famous university president
     
    That depends on how far out you stretch "relative". Jimmy Carter is related to Elvis Presley, whose name derives from the Pressler Palatine ancestor they share.



    http://www.germanheritage.com/biographies/mtoz/presley.html

    http://www.idreamof.com/famous/bios/presley_elvis_aaron.html

    http://www.grosser-apfel.com/usa-presidents/index_48.htm

    Übrigens hat Carter - der erste Präsident, der in einem Krankenhaus zur Welt gekommen war - einen deutschen Vorfahren, den Winzer Valentin Pressler aus der Pfalz. Der hat noch einen anderen Nachkommen in den USA: Elvis Presley.
     
    He was the first president born in a hospital. Fancy that. He is the first president who could vote before he was 21; Obama is only the second.
    , @Flip
    I suppose Joe Kennedy Sr. would count.
  28. @PiltdownMan

    Trump obviously comes from a bright, intellectual family – uncle MIT professor, sister Federal judge, Trump graduates from Penn. But his image among Leftists is that he is childlike.
     
    I agree, and mentioned something along the same lines in a comment last year.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/tesla-trump-and-death-rays/#comment-2632446


    Mr. Sailer replied


    The last President to have a distinguished relative outside of politics might have been Eisenhower, whose brother Milton was a famous university president.

    The two Romneys were highly successful in business but they didn’t get to be President, the earlier two McCains in the navy. Dukakis had a cousin who won a Best Supporting Actress Oscar in “Moonstruck.”

    Teddy Roosevelt had numerous descendants who rose high in the military and the deep state. As far down as Teddy Roosevelt V was I think a Navy SEAL before becoming a Wall Streeter.

    President Taft’s son Robert was another politician, but a distinguished one.

    It’s pretty interesting how few really distinguished relatives presidents and their opponents have had.
     

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/tesla-trump-and-death-rays/#comment-2632641

    Gerald Ford’s grandfather was pretty impressive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Henry_King

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive

    King was born in Perry Township, Fayette County, Pennsylvania, the son of Lynch King and Rebecca Shepherd
     
    Gerald Ford's great granddad was Lynch King and this was even before the KKK. I'm surprised Wikipedia haven't whitewashed.....er scrubbed this entry.
  29. @AlexT
    Chances that the papers Trump found there led directly to some of his own work? Over 50%?

    I doubt it. Despite the claims of the weird clutch of Tesla-worshippers, he was pretty useless as an inventor after 1900.

  30. Lurry…..again…and DON’T TEXT AND DRIVE!!!!

    One late Saturday afternoon, right after leaving a comment…..posted right in font of the Little Windmill that in a photo Steve(isteve fundraising appeal) had his head sticking out of(The Warf in Sag Harbor)waiting for Steve to approve my comment…….

    I drove down 25A to visit my sister’s family in radioactive Shoreman….as a drove down 25A I had a sudden impulse to leave another comment on isteve…..sooooo, I pulled over….right in front of Tesla’s SECRET DEATH RAY LAB in Shoreman…..where upon I left my very famous comment about WHIT BISSELL….LURRY….AND THE TEENAGE WEREWOLF!!!……

    Absolutely true story Steve….The strange thing about it all was that as I was typing out my comments, there were at least 50 white cottontail Dear STARING AT ME from behind the fence…their large ears, self-organized and aligned into a large parabolic SETI antenna array…………..So I says to me self:”Patrick….there be something mighty creepy looking about these two toed ungulate fuckers….I think you better be getting outa here…..they may be using their large ear antennas(1977 WOW!!! SIGNAL) to focus the crazy Serbo-Croatian’s DEATH RAYS at your delicate brain…..So off I went…..back onto 25A…Absolutely true story Steve….

    Another true story:Noble Prize winning Physicist Max Born….one of the creators of Quantum Mechanics…..is the Grandfather of John Travolta’s co-Star in the Movie GREASE!!!…….Who was Lesbian Hillary Clinton’s Lesbian girlfriend Markey Posts’ Father?

    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    Absolutely true story Steve...So don’t skimp on my comments...
  31. @War for Blair Mountain
    Lurry.....again...and DON’T TEXT AND DRIVE!!!!

    One late Saturday afternoon, right after leaving a comment.....posted right in font of the Little Windmill that in a photo Steve(isteve fundraising appeal) had his head sticking out of(The Warf in Sag Harbor)waiting for Steve to approve my comment.......

    I drove down 25A to visit my sister’s family in radioactive Shoreman....as a drove down 25A I had a sudden impulse to leave another comment on isteve.....sooooo, I pulled over....right in front of Tesla’s SECRET DEATH RAY LAB in Shoreman.....where upon I left my very famous comment about WHIT BISSELL....LURRY....AND THE TEENAGE WEREWOLF!!!......

    Absolutely true story Steve....The strange thing about it all was that as I was typing out my comments, there were at least 50 white cottontail Dear STARING AT ME from behind the fence...their large ears, self-organized and aligned into a large parabolic SETI antenna array..............So I says to me self:”Patrick....there be something mighty creepy looking about these two toed ungulate fuckers....I think you better be getting outa here.....they may be using their large ear antennas(1977 WOW!!! SIGNAL) to focus the crazy Serbo-Croatian’s DEATH RAYS at your delicate brain.....So off I went.....back onto 25A...Absolutely true story Steve....

    Another true story:Noble Prize winning Physicist Max Born....one of the creators of Quantum Mechanics.....is the Grandfather of John Travolta’s co-Star in the Movie GREASE!!!.......Who was Lesbian Hillary Clinton’s Lesbian girlfriend Markey Posts’ Father?

    Absolutely true story Steve…So don’t skimp on my comments…

  32. @snorlax
    Gerald Ford's grandfather was pretty impressive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Henry_King

    King was born in Perry Township, Fayette County, Pennsylvania, the son of Lynch King and Rebecca Shepherd

    Gerald Ford’s great granddad was Lynch King and this was even before the KKK. I’m surprised Wikipedia haven’t whitewashed…..er scrubbed this entry.

    • Replies: @Charlesz Martel
    I think Gerald Ford was adopted, no?
  33. @PiltdownMan

    Trump obviously comes from a bright, intellectual family – uncle MIT professor, sister Federal judge, Trump graduates from Penn. But his image among Leftists is that he is childlike.
     
    I agree, and mentioned something along the same lines in a comment last year.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/tesla-trump-and-death-rays/#comment-2632446


    Mr. Sailer replied


    The last President to have a distinguished relative outside of politics might have been Eisenhower, whose brother Milton was a famous university president.

    The two Romneys were highly successful in business but they didn’t get to be President, the earlier two McCains in the navy. Dukakis had a cousin who won a Best Supporting Actress Oscar in “Moonstruck.”

    Teddy Roosevelt had numerous descendants who rose high in the military and the deep state. As far down as Teddy Roosevelt V was I think a Navy SEAL before becoming a Wall Streeter.

    President Taft’s son Robert was another politician, but a distinguished one.

    It’s pretty interesting how few really distinguished relatives presidents and their opponents have had.
     

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/tesla-trump-and-death-rays/#comment-2632641

    “The last President to have a distinguished relative outside of politics might have been Eisenhower, whose brother Milton was a famous university president.”

    You’re forgetting Billy Carter, the renowned philosopher and beer entrepreneur.

    • Agree: Paleo Liberal
  34. Yes, and then he taught his nephew how to use them.

    They work like Jedi mind tricks. “These aren’t the droids you’re looking for.”

    At rallies:

    “We’ve made America great again, now it’s time to Keep America Great.” (Cue loud cheers from rally crowd.)

    During interviews:

    [MORE]

    Trump – “We’ve made tremendous progress. We have the greatest economy ever.”

    Reporter – “But, but …”

    Trump – “Excuse me! We’ve created the greatest economy in the history of this country.”

    Reporter – “But you said…”

    Trump – “Excuse me. Excuse me. The is the greatest economy in the history of mankind. Before I came in, it was a disaster.”

    Reporter – “What about…”

    Trump – “Jobs. Jobs. Low unemployment.”

    Reporter – “But when you ran, you said those numbers lie. They don’t count all the…”

    Trump – “Excuse me. Excuse me. The lowest unemployment since the stone age. Jobs are pouring back into our country. Their pouring back in. I’ve brought thousands of manufacturing companies back in. Stock market.”

    Reporter — “During your campain, you said the stock market…”

    Trump – “Highest stock market ever. The economy is the greatest ever in our history. Stock market. Jobs. Lowest unemployment for blacks, hispanics, martians, LGBQXQWERTY… These aren’t the droids you’re looking for.”

    Reporter – “I give up. Mommy please come help me!”

    Trump – “I moved the capital of Israel to Jeruselem, all by myself. Moved every building for our greatest ally ever.”

    Reporter – “You’ve created the greatest economy ever in history. Jobs are pouring back. Let’s Keep America Great Again. Thank you, Mr. President.”

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    You forgot:

    Reporter: "You said you were going to stop illegal aliens from entering the country, build a wall (and have Mexico finance it), avoid foreign military adventures, and impose tariffs and other measures to punish corporations who avoid taxes and the employment of Americans via foreign operations. Yet none of this has happened, and in fact you attacked Syria, illegal aliens are pouring in, those foreign operations are going gangbusters, and you endorse flooding the nation with foreigners "leeegally" to take jobs from Americans and make property unaffordable for Americans."

    Trump: "I like China."

    https://youtu.be/HL7o6np84pg
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    My mediocre attempt at cleverness was in reply to Steve's comment,

    Death Rays? I bet Dr. Trump discovered Mind Control Rays.
     
  35. @Buzz Mohawk
    Yes, and then he taught his nephew how to use them.

    They work like Jedi mind tricks. "These aren't the droids you're looking for."

    At rallies:

    "We've made America great again, now it's time to Keep America Great." (Cue loud cheers from rally crowd.)

    During interviews:



    Trump - "We've made tremendous progress. We have the greatest economy ever."

    Reporter - "But, but ..."

    Trump - "Excuse me! We've created the greatest economy in the history of this country."

    Reporter - "But you said..."

    Trump - "Excuse me. Excuse me. The is the greatest economy in the history of mankind. Before I came in, it was a disaster."

    Reporter - "What about..."

    Trump - "Jobs. Jobs. Low unemployment."

    Reporter - "But when you ran, you said those numbers lie. They don't count all the..."

    Trump - "Excuse me. Excuse me. The lowest unemployment since the stone age. Jobs are pouring back into our country. Their pouring back in. I've brought thousands of manufacturing companies back in. Stock market."

    Reporter -- "During your campain, you said the stock market..."

    Trump - "Highest stock market ever. The economy is the greatest ever in our history. Stock market. Jobs. Lowest unemployment for blacks, hispanics, martians, LGBQXQWERTY... These aren't the droids you're looking for."

    Reporter - "I give up. Mommy please come help me!"

    Trump - "I moved the capital of Israel to Jeruselem, all by myself. Moved every building for our greatest ally ever."

    Reporter - "You've created the greatest economy ever in history. Jobs are pouring back. Let's Keep America Great Again. Thank you, Mr. President."

    You forgot:

    Reporter: “You said you were going to stop illegal aliens from entering the country, build a wall (and have Mexico finance it), avoid foreign military adventures, and impose tariffs and other measures to punish corporations who avoid taxes and the employment of Americans via foreign operations. Yet none of this has happened, and in fact you attacked Syria, illegal aliens are pouring in, those foreign operations are going gangbusters, and you endorse flooding the nation with foreigners “leeegally” to take jobs from Americans and make property unaffordable for Americans.”

    Trump: “I like China.”

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
  36. @Jack D
    A few things here:

    1. Trump obviously comes from a bright, intellectual family - uncle MIT professor, sister Federal judge, Trump graduates from Penn. But his image among Leftists is that he is childlike.

    2. Tesla died at 86 (in the days when that was even older than today). It's a nice movie plot to imagine that Tesla really did have the secret of Death Rays in his notes but chances are that his best inventing days were over by the time he died and what Uncle Trump said was true.

    Trump obviously comes from a bright, intellectual family – uncle MIT professor, sister Federal judge, Trump graduates from Penn. But his image among Leftists is that he is childlike.

    The problem there is that people confuse intelligence with possessing intellectual interests. Some very smart people are simply not interested in matters pertaining to the arts and the sciences. For example, I know a guy who has a law degree from Boalt Hall (did quite well, graduated in the top ten percent of his class, etc), but he has no interest in intellectual matters. He doesn’t read books that do not pertain to his field, never goes to art galleries, only watches low-brow films and tv, etc.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Trump probably isn't as intelligent as his uncle was, though. There's variation within families too. It's not like every in families is equally intelligent.
  37. @Steve Sailer
    Death Rays? I bet Dr. Trump discovered Mind Control Rays.

  38. I don’t really like comic books, but I like history that sounds like a comic book.

    This is more like a Tijuana bible:

    While the scientist Nikola Tesla
    Did it doggy-style with Marie Dressler,
    He said “Tugboat Annie,
    The size of your fanny
    Exceeds that of a Japanese wrestler!”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Our Unabashed Dictionary defines Fanny :

    In America, the hindmost part.
    In the UK, the part most Hynde.

    , @Twodees Partain
    Where did you find that picture of Tiny Duck's mom?
  39. @Buzz Mohawk
    Yes, and then he taught his nephew how to use them.

    They work like Jedi mind tricks. "These aren't the droids you're looking for."

    At rallies:

    "We've made America great again, now it's time to Keep America Great." (Cue loud cheers from rally crowd.)

    During interviews:



    Trump - "We've made tremendous progress. We have the greatest economy ever."

    Reporter - "But, but ..."

    Trump - "Excuse me! We've created the greatest economy in the history of this country."

    Reporter - "But you said..."

    Trump - "Excuse me. Excuse me. The is the greatest economy in the history of mankind. Before I came in, it was a disaster."

    Reporter - "What about..."

    Trump - "Jobs. Jobs. Low unemployment."

    Reporter - "But when you ran, you said those numbers lie. They don't count all the..."

    Trump - "Excuse me. Excuse me. The lowest unemployment since the stone age. Jobs are pouring back into our country. Their pouring back in. I've brought thousands of manufacturing companies back in. Stock market."

    Reporter -- "During your campain, you said the stock market..."

    Trump - "Highest stock market ever. The economy is the greatest ever in our history. Stock market. Jobs. Lowest unemployment for blacks, hispanics, martians, LGBQXQWERTY... These aren't the droids you're looking for."

    Reporter - "I give up. Mommy please come help me!"

    Trump - "I moved the capital of Israel to Jeruselem, all by myself. Moved every building for our greatest ally ever."

    Reporter - "You've created the greatest economy ever in history. Jobs are pouring back. Let's Keep America Great Again. Thank you, Mr. President."

    My mediocre attempt at cleverness was in reply to Steve’s comment,

    Death Rays? I bet Dr. Trump discovered Mind Control Rays.

  40. @PiltdownMan

    Trump obviously comes from a bright, intellectual family – uncle MIT professor, sister Federal judge, Trump graduates from Penn. But his image among Leftists is that he is childlike.
     
    I agree, and mentioned something along the same lines in a comment last year.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/tesla-trump-and-death-rays/#comment-2632446


    Mr. Sailer replied


    The last President to have a distinguished relative outside of politics might have been Eisenhower, whose brother Milton was a famous university president.

    The two Romneys were highly successful in business but they didn’t get to be President, the earlier two McCains in the navy. Dukakis had a cousin who won a Best Supporting Actress Oscar in “Moonstruck.”

    Teddy Roosevelt had numerous descendants who rose high in the military and the deep state. As far down as Teddy Roosevelt V was I think a Navy SEAL before becoming a Wall Streeter.

    President Taft’s son Robert was another politician, but a distinguished one.

    It’s pretty interesting how few really distinguished relatives presidents and their opponents have had.
     

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/tesla-trump-and-death-rays/#comment-2632641

    Of course if it hadn’t been for the prestige of his father and grandfather, John McCain would have been dishonorably discharged long before he even made it to Vietnam.

  41. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux

    Trump obviously comes from a bright, intellectual family – uncle MIT professor, sister Federal judge, Trump graduates from Penn. But his image among Leftists is that he is childlike.
     
    The problem there is that people confuse intelligence with possessing intellectual interests. Some very smart people are simply not interested in matters pertaining to the arts and the sciences. For example, I know a guy who has a law degree from Boalt Hall (did quite well, graduated in the top ten percent of his class, etc), but he has no interest in intellectual matters. He doesn't read books that do not pertain to his field, never goes to art galleries, only watches low-brow films and tv, etc.

    Trump probably isn’t as intelligent as his uncle was, though. There’s variation within families too. It’s not like every in families is equally intelligent.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Trump probably isn’t as intelligent as his uncle was, though. There’s variation within families too. It’s not like every in families is equally intelligent.
     
    Sure. But all the signs do point to him having an above average IQ, say 115+
    , @anonymous2space
    trump became a billionaire in a ruthless field where he was known for running rings around people in complicated deals/schemes.
  42. Interesting that PBS is covering this story.

    Those of us who have not been too prissy to wade into “The Ridiculous Terrible No Good Very Rotten Conspiracy Theory Known as Qanon” have been hip to the Uncle John/Tesla connection for a while now. Here’s an interesting take on it.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1099515180008955904.html

  43. What’s even more comical is that just yesterday I managed to revive a company involved with this after 3 of its principles died of various causes a few years ago shortly after an experiment replicating the phenomenon.

  44. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @AlexT
    Chances that the papers Trump found there led directly to some of his own work? Over 50%?

    Trump and his family are obviously intelligent, but there is also a dastardly streak that seems to run in the family that would raise the odds of this sort of thing.

    Trump’s grandfather emigrated from his native Germany without notifying authorities and avoided mandatory military service. In the US, his grandfather ran a hotel and brothel out West.

    Trump’s father pretended to be Swedish and was of course in real estate development, which is a sleazy industry that tends to attract and reward dastardly types, especially in New York City. Trump went into real estate and developed a reputation for stiffing contractors and creditors. Then went on to succeed in showbiz and politics.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    So basically you're saying that the Trump family history in the US basically proves the central thesis of the book, "Be Slightly Evil?"
  45. We are told in the article excerpts above that Tesla’s papers were supposedly reviewed by a scientist hired by the FBI.

    We are not told what happened to those papers. Seems like a obvious thing to mention or ask about. So does anyone know? Surely they aren’t still locked up.

  46. @PseudonymousMe
    Seriously, though, it perhaps says something about Trump’s IQ. His dad must have been 130+, his uncle 150+. His kids are well-spoken and I’m guessing about 135.

    Yet he, the most wildly successful of the bunch, based on accomplishments a historically great figure, who ran and won a Quixotic one-man campaign against the arrayed forces of evil and temporal power, which no-one else could conceivably have done, invariably sounds like a complete effing moron. With a tenuous grasp of the facts or legal principles or ideology or the underlying reasons for things being as they are.

    If you listened to him without knowledge of his achievements, you would judge him a generous 110 IQ, but with an EQ (Energy Quotient) of 250.

    Is he:
    1) An idiot savant at winning;
    2) So smart we can’t fathom his ways;
    3) Acting dumb;
    4) The luckiest bastard ever born;
    5) Divinely blessed; or
    6) All of the above.

    @ PseudonymousMe – There is no need to speculate or attempt an analysis. The God Emperor’s mind is beyond the ken of mere mortals. We can only watch slack-jawed as he smites his enemies and performs his MAGA magic. Whether Tesla death rays are part of his arsenal is likely to remain a secret as well.

    • Agree: Kronos, Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    Man, 2016 was a lot of fun.

    I really wanted to be a space marine...
  47. Now, make Uncle John a time-travelling Don and you’ve got a story.

  48. @PiltdownMan

    Trump obviously comes from a bright, intellectual family – uncle MIT professor, sister Federal judge, Trump graduates from Penn. But his image among Leftists is that he is childlike.
     
    I agree, and mentioned something along the same lines in a comment last year.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/tesla-trump-and-death-rays/#comment-2632446


    Mr. Sailer replied


    The last President to have a distinguished relative outside of politics might have been Eisenhower, whose brother Milton was a famous university president.

    The two Romneys were highly successful in business but they didn’t get to be President, the earlier two McCains in the navy. Dukakis had a cousin who won a Best Supporting Actress Oscar in “Moonstruck.”

    Teddy Roosevelt had numerous descendants who rose high in the military and the deep state. As far down as Teddy Roosevelt V was I think a Navy SEAL before becoming a Wall Streeter.

    President Taft’s son Robert was another politician, but a distinguished one.

    It’s pretty interesting how few really distinguished relatives presidents and their opponents have had.
     

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/tesla-trump-and-death-rays/#comment-2632641

    The last President to have a distinguished relative outside of politics might have been Eisenhower, whose brother Milton was a famous university president

    That depends on how far out you stretch “relative”. Jimmy Carter is related to Elvis Presley, whose name derives from the Pressler Palatine ancestor they share.

    http://www.germanheritage.com/biographies/mtoz/presley.html

    http://www.idreamof.com/famous/bios/presley_elvis_aaron.html

    http://www.grosser-apfel.com/usa-presidents/index_48.htm

    Übrigens hat Carter – der erste Präsident, der in einem Krankenhaus zur Welt gekommen war – einen deutschen Vorfahren, den Winzer Valentin Pressler aus der Pfalz. Der hat noch einen anderen Nachkommen in den USA: Elvis Presley.

    He was the first president born in a hospital. Fancy that. He is the first president who could vote before he was 21; Obama is only the second.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan

    He is the first president who could vote before he was 21; Obama is only the second.
     
    I'm not sure I understand that.

    The 26th Amendment was passed in July 1971, and so, for a president to have been able to vote before he was 21, he would have had to be born after July 1950. Carter was born in 1924.
    , @Flip
    Carter was also a cousin of Berry Gordy, founder of Motown Records through his mother.

    https://famouskin.com/famous-kin-chart.php?name=12937+jimmy+carter&kin=35588+berry+gordy&via=27904+james+thomas+gordy
  49. @PseudonymousMe
    Seriously, though, it perhaps says something about Trump’s IQ. His dad must have been 130+, his uncle 150+. His kids are well-spoken and I’m guessing about 135.

    Yet he, the most wildly successful of the bunch, based on accomplishments a historically great figure, who ran and won a Quixotic one-man campaign against the arrayed forces of evil and temporal power, which no-one else could conceivably have done, invariably sounds like a complete effing moron. With a tenuous grasp of the facts or legal principles or ideology or the underlying reasons for things being as they are.

    If you listened to him without knowledge of his achievements, you would judge him a generous 110 IQ, but with an EQ (Energy Quotient) of 250.

    Is he:
    1) An idiot savant at winning;
    2) So smart we can’t fathom his ways;
    3) Acting dumb;
    4) The luckiest bastard ever born;
    5) Divinely blessed; or
    6) All of the above.

    I’d vote for 1) An idiot savant at winning.

    I’ve known successful people who didn’t have polish or book smarts, but they had focus and an “eye for the battlefield”.

    Trump has a knack for quickly reading people and situations that pretty much carries him through.

    • Replies: @International Jew

    Trump has a knack for quickly reading people and situations that pretty much carries him through.
     
    Dunno about that. Look at all the people he's hired who've undermined his policies and even turned against him in the most vicious ways — https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/04/trumps-insults-idiot-woodward-806455
  50. Hairy Old Farting Bulldyke Hillary Clinton had a Lesbian girlfriend named Markey Post…the actress….whose father was the well known…If you are a Plasma Physcist……Plasma Physcist Richard Post……History has not recorded if Bill Clinton had first li……..oh, never mind….

  51. @Gordo

    Death Rays? I bet Dr. Trump discovered Mind Control Rays.
     
    Nah, it was John Logie Baird who invented television.

    LOL

    BTW John Logie Baird heroically picked up the earliest concepts and took them to their limits to create and refine electro-mechanical television. The best it could provide was an extremely low resolution image of a simple subject. A barely-recognizeable, talking face was all you got.

    Philo Farnsworth came up with an all-electronic solution to that problem. Vladimir Zworykin and David Sarnoff then stole Farnsworth’s invention and improved it and added to it for RCA. That company, its NBC network, and others then went on to develop a monster that served the powers that be. NBC television was born a bastard and still is.

    • Agree: syonredux
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    GE was involved in all this, too. WGY in Schenectady is the second-oldest station after KDKA, and was the genesis of the NBC radio network. The triad NBC used as its calling card was G-E-C. General Electric Corporation.
  52. In more interested in what was in the papers in Sandy Berger’s pants or socks.

  53. @Anonymous
    Trump probably isn't as intelligent as his uncle was, though. There's variation within families too. It's not like every in families is equally intelligent.

    Trump probably isn’t as intelligent as his uncle was, though. There’s variation within families too. It’s not like every in families is equally intelligent.

    Sure. But all the signs do point to him having an above average IQ, say 115+

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    No it really doesnt. Intelligence is between 60-70, and there is regression to the mean. There's his mom too and we dont know much about that. 110-115 is where he would be
  54. @Gordo

    Death Rays? I bet Dr. Trump discovered Mind Control Rays.
     
    Nah, it was John Logie Baird who invented television.

    Philo Taylor Farnsworth (August 19, 1906 – March 11, 1971) was an American inventor and television pioneer.[2][3] He made many crucial contributions to the early development of all-electronic television.[4] He is best known for his 1927 invention of the first fully functional all-electronic image pickup device (video camera tube), the image dissector, as well as the first fully functional and complete all-electronic television system.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo_Farnsworth

    • Replies: @95Theses
    Sigh. Philo Farnsworth – another brilliant White male. Another contributor to the modern world and Western civilization.

    Oh the humanity! Where will all this White Privilege end?!
  55. @Verymuchalive

    King was born in Perry Township, Fayette County, Pennsylvania, the son of Lynch King and Rebecca Shepherd
     
    Gerald Ford's great granddad was Lynch King and this was even before the KKK. I'm surprised Wikipedia haven't whitewashed.....er scrubbed this entry.

    I think Gerald Ford was adopted, no?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    King was his birth father. His birth dad was a violent drunk whom his mother left shortly after he was born but grandpa King paid child support. Gerald Ford Sr. was his stepdad.
  56. @Anon
    I give Tesla credit for alternating current. Immigrants get the job done! But wireless transmission of power: After a century and still no wireless transmission of power, I can only assume that this was an unfortunate left turn and brain fart on his part, right? Have physicists or engineers ever explained why his ideas were bunk?

    Tesla had more than one brain fart. For instance, he figured radio static must be proof of intelligent alien life.

    That’s a peril of drawing wild conclusions on things no one understands, I suppose.

  57. @PseudonymousMe
    Seriously, though, it perhaps says something about Trump’s IQ. His dad must have been 130+, his uncle 150+. His kids are well-spoken and I’m guessing about 135.

    Yet he, the most wildly successful of the bunch, based on accomplishments a historically great figure, who ran and won a Quixotic one-man campaign against the arrayed forces of evil and temporal power, which no-one else could conceivably have done, invariably sounds like a complete effing moron. With a tenuous grasp of the facts or legal principles or ideology or the underlying reasons for things being as they are.

    If you listened to him without knowledge of his achievements, you would judge him a generous 110 IQ, but with an EQ (Energy Quotient) of 250.

    Is he:
    1) An idiot savant at winning;
    2) So smart we can’t fathom his ways;
    3) Acting dumb;
    4) The luckiest bastard ever born;
    5) Divinely blessed; or
    6) All of the above.
  58. @PseudonymousMe
    Seriously, though, it perhaps says something about Trump’s IQ. His dad must have been 130+, his uncle 150+. His kids are well-spoken and I’m guessing about 135.

    Yet he, the most wildly successful of the bunch, based on accomplishments a historically great figure, who ran and won a Quixotic one-man campaign against the arrayed forces of evil and temporal power, which no-one else could conceivably have done, invariably sounds like a complete effing moron. With a tenuous grasp of the facts or legal principles or ideology or the underlying reasons for things being as they are.

    If you listened to him without knowledge of his achievements, you would judge him a generous 110 IQ, but with an EQ (Energy Quotient) of 250.

    Is he:
    1) An idiot savant at winning;
    2) So smart we can’t fathom his ways;
    3) Acting dumb;
    4) The luckiest bastard ever born;
    5) Divinely blessed; or
    6) All of the above.

    his uncle 150+

    Talk about a badestimate. No way its above a 150. People really dont understand how big these numbers are.

    Ivanka and Eric are definitely not “well-spoken”.

    Intelligence is also not a hundred percent genetic.

    There is also regression to the mean.

    4 is your best bet

    • Agree: 95Theses
    • Replies: @Jack D
    I think the others are way high but 150 is not out of the question for someone who has a PhD from MIT and is a professor there.

    Trump was also the recipient of the National Medal of Science for Engineering, a significant honor that is award to 3 or fewer engineers per year. Other recipients have been von Karman, Claude Shannon, Edwin Land, Igor Sikorsky, Presper Eckert, Jack Kilby, etc. A very distinguished group (of mostly white men, assuming that Jews count as white).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Medal_of_Science_laureates

    150 IQ is at roughly the 1 in 10,000 level and I would say that he was even above that.
  59. @syonredux

    Trump probably isn’t as intelligent as his uncle was, though. There’s variation within families too. It’s not like every in families is equally intelligent.
     
    Sure. But all the signs do point to him having an above average IQ, say 115+

    No it really doesnt. Intelligence is between 60-70, and there is regression to the mean. There’s his mom too and we dont know much about that. 110-115 is where he would be

    • Replies: @syonredux

    No it really doesnt. Intelligence is between 60-70,
     
    White American mean is 100, with the bulk of the White population occupying the 85-115 range.

    and there is regression to the mean. There’s his mom too and we dont know much about that. 110-115 is where he would be
     
    Not impossible, but that sounds too low. For example, George W Bush's IQ seems to have been around 125:



    http://www.unz.com/isteve/my-article-on-john-f-kerrys-iq/
    , @Jack D

    Intelligence is between 60-70
     
    What? Maybe in Bengal. In the US an IQ below 70 is considered mentally retarded. Maybe there is some different scale used in India because we are not on the same page here.
    , @Counterinsurgency

    Intelligence is between 60-70, and there is regression to the mean.
     
    Definitely ROMA data.

    Counterinsurgency
  60. @syonredux

    Philo Taylor Farnsworth (August 19, 1906 – March 11, 1971) was an American inventor and television pioneer.[2][3] He made many crucial contributions to the early development of all-electronic television.[4] He is best known for his 1927 invention of the first fully functional all-electronic image pickup device (video camera tube), the image dissector, as well as the first fully functional and complete all-electronic television system.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo_Farnsworth

    Sigh. Philo Farnsworth – another brilliant White male. Another contributor to the modern world and Western civilization.

    Oh the humanity! Where will all this White Privilege end?!

  61. @BengaliCanadianDude
    No it really doesnt. Intelligence is between 60-70, and there is regression to the mean. There's his mom too and we dont know much about that. 110-115 is where he would be

    No it really doesnt. Intelligence is between 60-70,

    White American mean is 100, with the bulk of the White population occupying the 85-115 range.

    and there is regression to the mean. There’s his mom too and we dont know much about that. 110-115 is where he would be

    Not impossible, but that sounds too low. For example, George W Bush’s IQ seems to have been around 125:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/my-article-on-john-f-kerrys-iq/

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    If you read my comment I did mention regression to the mean so that should pretty much mean I was talking about the heritability, which is between that range. I mention it in another comment on this thread. Plus, George Bush was smart. So what? You do know he faked his accent right? To basically make himself out to be the humble Texas guy or whatever to appeal to his numbskull voter base.
  62. @pater eusebius tenebrarum
    @ PseudonymousMe - There is no need to speculate or attempt an analysis. The God Emperor's mind is beyond the ken of mere mortals. We can only watch slack-jawed as he smites his enemies and performs his MAGA magic. Whether Tesla death rays are part of his arsenal is likely to remain a secret as well.

    Man, 2016 was a lot of fun.

    I really wanted to be a space marine…

    • Agree: Jack Hanson
    • Replies: @Kronos
    https://youtu.be/VI9c_PbdfD4

    For the God-Emperor!
  63. @BengaliCanadianDude

    his uncle 150+
     
    Talk about a badestimate. No way its above a 150. People really dont understand how big these numbers are.


    Ivanka and Eric are definitely not "well-spoken".

    Intelligence is also not a hundred percent genetic.

    There is also regression to the mean.

    4 is your best bet

    I think the others are way high but 150 is not out of the question for someone who has a PhD from MIT and is a professor there.

    Trump was also the recipient of the National Medal of Science for Engineering, a significant honor that is award to 3 or fewer engineers per year. Other recipients have been von Karman, Claude Shannon, Edwin Land, Igor Sikorsky, Presper Eckert, Jack Kilby, etc. A very distinguished group (of mostly white men, assuming that Jews count as white).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Medal_of_Science_laureates

    150 IQ is at roughly the 1 in 10,000 level and I would say that he was even above that.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
  64. @BengaliCanadianDude
    No it really doesnt. Intelligence is between 60-70, and there is regression to the mean. There's his mom too and we dont know much about that. 110-115 is where he would be

    Intelligence is between 60-70

    What? Maybe in Bengal. In the US an IQ below 70 is considered mentally retarded. Maybe there is some different scale used in India because we are not on the same page here.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    YOu really aren't. You seem even more retarded. Intelligence is 60-70 percent genetic. That is exactly what is taken from my words if you read it, because I literally mention regression to the mean after
  65. @PseudonymousMe
    Seriously, though, it perhaps says something about Trump’s IQ. His dad must have been 130+, his uncle 150+. His kids are well-spoken and I’m guessing about 135.

    Yet he, the most wildly successful of the bunch, based on accomplishments a historically great figure, who ran and won a Quixotic one-man campaign against the arrayed forces of evil and temporal power, which no-one else could conceivably have done, invariably sounds like a complete effing moron. With a tenuous grasp of the facts or legal principles or ideology or the underlying reasons for things being as they are.

    If you listened to him without knowledge of his achievements, you would judge him a generous 110 IQ, but with an EQ (Energy Quotient) of 250.

    Is he:
    1) An idiot savant at winning;
    2) So smart we can’t fathom his ways;
    3) Acting dumb;
    4) The luckiest bastard ever born;
    5) Divinely blessed; or
    6) All of the above.

    A language is composed of dialects. Each dialect is used by a particular group, and is (in a way) a professional patois. A dialect’s expresses common abstractions of common situations for the dialect using group, and is learned through immersion and practice.

    Example: A non-native speaker might ask a Mexican grocer “Tiene huevos hoy?” (do you have any eggs today?), but the answer will occasionally be “Si! Dos Grandes!” (Yes! Two big ones!). No real way to predict this unless you actually use the language.

    Trump speaks NYC Real Estate when addressing his followers, and NYC Trash Talk when addressing his political opponents. Trump is proficient in both dialects. What else would be possible, considering his life history? Strangely enough, both dialects contain the basics of political discourse and economics, although expressed with less circumspection than the same basics expressed in, say, sociology dialect, and more realism than, say, Marxist dialect.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Perhaps a strange comparison but I have recently been watching The Sopranos and think Trump resembles Tony quite a bit. Takes a 'down to earth' approach to most problems. Need someone you can trust? Place family members in lieutenant positions. Need to bind someone to yourself? Put them in compromising positions and leverage aggressively, etc.

    Notably, when Sopranos was originally airing, of the criticisms for Tony his 'dialect'(intelligence) was not one of them. As long as it was a fictional character, "good" people could relate and even cheer for this strongman mobster. It is only because Trump is a flesh and blood ideological enemy that now people express concern with his mannerisms, in spite of it winning him the election.
  66. Just before his death at the height of World War II, he claimed that he had perfected his so-called “death beam.”

    Tesla was also a scammer in his old age, which tends to muddy the waters.

    He was late paying his hotel bill and tendered a large box of saleable patents, he claimed, as collateral till he got his royalty payments. Then he died. Still owing the money. At which point the box was opened and found to contain nothing but old newspaper clippings.

    A/C was a major contribution but Westinghouse scammed him, like Edison did earlier. The answer might be psychological,. Revenge for being stiffed for real accomplishments might consist of stringing together a rack of fake ones.

  67. @BengaliCanadianDude
    No it really doesnt. Intelligence is between 60-70, and there is regression to the mean. There's his mom too and we dont know much about that. 110-115 is where he would be

    Intelligence is between 60-70, and there is regression to the mean.

    Definitely ROMA data.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    The inheritance. Shouldve been clearer because I did mention regression to the mean right after.
  68. @Reg Cæsar

    That J. Edgar Hoover sent Donald Trump’s uncle to investigate Nikola Tesla’s secret papers sounds like the plot for a Captain America movie.
     
    Or a Little Richard song:



    Gonna tell Aunt Elora 'bout Uncle John
    He claim he has the death Ray but he's havin' a lot of fun
    Oh baby, yeah baby, woo
    Havin' me some fun tonight, yeah



    As for Aunt Elora, it looks like Ivanka wasn't the first Trump to marry a Jew. Laura's mother was a Gordon, a surname split approximately 2-1 among Scottish and Jewish bearers. Elora, Ontario, home to a famous gorge, was founded by Scots. Maybe John was taken in? After all, brother Fred married a Scot.

    I doubt this. Elora’s maiden name was Sauerbrun, which is an echt German name carried by approximately 0 Jews. Intermarriage was once much more rare than it is now. Chances are much greater that he married a fellow German-Scot.

  69. @Anon
    I give Tesla credit for alternating current. Immigrants get the job done! But wireless transmission of power: After a century and still no wireless transmission of power, I can only assume that this was an unfortunate left turn and brain fart on his part, right? Have physicists or engineers ever explained why his ideas were bunk?

    Wireless transmission of power would work, and you could simply put up antenna to get electrical power out of thin air.
    All you have to do is saturate the environment in lethal levels of microwave radiation. Tesla never saw a microwave oven, and apparently it didn’t occur to him that high levels of RF might damage your tissues.

  70. Modern physics is a house of cards built on assumptions “proving” other assumptions yet I’m being told something with a generic description of “death ray” is impossible.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Modern physics is a house of cards built on assumptions “proving” other assumptions
     
    I hope that you're not another relativity denier....

    yet I’m being told something with a generic description of “death ray” is impossible.
     
    Because it's too vague. "Death rays" have a genealogy going back at least to the heat-rays used by the invading Martians in Wells' The War of the Worlds.If we're going to take such claims seriously, we first need details (What kind of rays?How are they produced? What's the power source?).
    , @HA
    " I’m being told something with a generic description of 'death ray' is impossible."

    Who says? Assuming your wallet is fat, you can go out today and buy yourself a laser -- i.e. a device that emits very intense EM radiation -- that can cut through steel. How is that not a death ray?

    , @Anon
    @Ron Unz

    Modern physics is a house of cards built on assumptions “proving” other assumptions yet I’m being told something with a generic description of “death ray” is impossible.
     
    Lol, I noticed that to. They’re very deft at dismissing theories which don’t come with the imprimatur of the academy or establishment (which would include any theory advanced by anyone outside of the academy or establishment). In Ron Unz’s discussion with Steve Hsu— was a podcast which Sailer posted last month— Ron mentions meeting Richard Feynman and discussing an idea he (Unz) had been developing on black holes and electromagnetic radiation and the implication it would have on the inflationary universe hypothesis. Ron said he was impressed by Feynman immediately countering with implications and suggestions. IMHO, I think Ron mistook Feynman’s honed apologetics skills for his brilliance.
  71. @AlexT
    Have any of the Tesla papers been released? Do we really know what was in them? I tend to be suspicious of govt. agencies saying 'nothing to see here'. That isn't proof that there was something to see but still.

    It would be amazing if it turned out Tesla helped with the Manhattan project.

  72. @BenKenobi
    Man, 2016 was a lot of fun.

    I really wanted to be a space marine...

    For the God-Emperor!

  73. @Jack Hanson
    Modern physics is a house of cards built on assumptions "proving" other assumptions yet I'm being told something with a generic description of "death ray" is impossible.

    Modern physics is a house of cards built on assumptions “proving” other assumptions

    I hope that you’re not another relativity denier….

    yet I’m being told something with a generic description of “death ray” is impossible.

    Because it’s too vague. “Death rays” have a genealogy going back at least to the heat-rays used by the invading Martians in Wells’ The War of the Worlds.If we’re going to take such claims seriously, we first need details (What kind of rays?How are they produced? What’s the power source?).

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    Funny that I said house of cards built on assumptions proving other assumptions and you knew exactly what I meant, as well as responded defensively.

    What's that saying about the dog that yelps is the one you hit when you throw a rock?

    Also, that something is "too vague" is not the same as "impossible".

  74. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @PseudonymousMe
    Seriously, though, it perhaps says something about Trump’s IQ. His dad must have been 130+, his uncle 150+. His kids are well-spoken and I’m guessing about 135.

    Yet he, the most wildly successful of the bunch, based on accomplishments a historically great figure, who ran and won a Quixotic one-man campaign against the arrayed forces of evil and temporal power, which no-one else could conceivably have done, invariably sounds like a complete effing moron. With a tenuous grasp of the facts or legal principles or ideology or the underlying reasons for things being as they are.

    If you listened to him without knowledge of his achievements, you would judge him a generous 110 IQ, but with an EQ (Energy Quotient) of 250.

    Is he:
    1) An idiot savant at winning;
    2) So smart we can’t fathom his ways;
    3) Acting dumb;
    4) The luckiest bastard ever born;
    5) Divinely blessed; or
    6) All of the above.

    Is he:
    1) An idiot savant at winning;
    2) So smart we can’t fathom his ways;
    3) Acting dumb;
    4) The luckiest bastard ever born;
    5) Divinely blessed; or
    6) All of the above.

    Trump can’t see into the future or play 5-D chess, etc. Please, so stupid. It’s obvious that Trump taps into a loop in the space-time continuum so he can access one of the parallel inverse mirror universes in the multiverse . For Trump ever day is kind of like the recursion in Groundhog Day. That also explains his inhuman confidence level.

  75. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @the one they call Desanex

    I don’t really like comic books, but I like history that sounds like a comic book.
     
    This is more like a Tijuana bible:

    While the scientist Nikola Tesla
    Did it doggy-style with Marie Dressler,
    He said “Tugboat Annie,
    The size of your fanny
    Exceeds that of a Japanese wrestler!”

    https://www.altfg.com/film/wp-content/uploads/images/dressler-marie.jpg

    Our Unabashed Dictionary defines Fanny :

    In America, the hindmost part.
    In the UK, the part most Hynde.

  76. Anonymous[334] • Disclaimer says:
    @Counterinsurgency
    A language is composed of dialects. Each dialect is used by a particular group, and is (in a way) a professional patois. A dialect's expresses common abstractions of common situations for the dialect using group, and is learned through immersion and practice.

    Example: A non-native speaker might ask a Mexican grocer "Tiene huevos hoy?" (do you have any eggs today?), but the answer will occasionally be "Si! Dos Grandes!" (Yes! Two big ones!). No real way to predict this unless you actually use the language.

    Trump speaks NYC Real Estate when addressing his followers, and NYC Trash Talk when addressing his political opponents. Trump is proficient in both dialects. What else would be possible, considering his life history? Strangely enough, both dialects contain the basics of political discourse and economics, although expressed with less circumspection than the same basics expressed in, say, sociology dialect, and more realism than, say, Marxist dialect.

    Counterinsurgency

    Perhaps a strange comparison but I have recently been watching The Sopranos and think Trump resembles Tony quite a bit. Takes a ‘down to earth’ approach to most problems. Need someone you can trust? Place family members in lieutenant positions. Need to bind someone to yourself? Put them in compromising positions and leverage aggressively, etc.

    Notably, when Sopranos was originally airing, of the criticisms for Tony his ‘dialect'(intelligence) was not one of them. As long as it was a fictional character, “good” people could relate and even cheer for this strongman mobster. It is only because Trump is a flesh and blood ideological enemy that now people express concern with his mannerisms, in spite of it winning him the election.

  77. HA says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Modern physics is a house of cards built on assumptions "proving" other assumptions yet I'm being told something with a generic description of "death ray" is impossible.

    ” I’m being told something with a generic description of ‘death ray’ is impossible.”

    Who says? Assuming your wallet is fat, you can go out today and buy yourself a laser — i.e. a device that emits very intense EM radiation — that can cut through steel. How is that not a death ray?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    An X ray machine or linear accelerator could be called a "death ray" because if misused it could kill people, but they aren't particularly suited to that, especially at any distance. Lasers, of the right type and sufficient power, would be little more efective, but they are awkward as weapons, at least at present.
    , @Jack Hanson
    "Who says?"

    The crop of autists/experts at everything here at eye steve dawt com.
  78. @Reg Cæsar

    The last President to have a distinguished relative outside of politics might have been Eisenhower, whose brother Milton was a famous university president
     
    That depends on how far out you stretch "relative". Jimmy Carter is related to Elvis Presley, whose name derives from the Pressler Palatine ancestor they share.



    http://www.germanheritage.com/biographies/mtoz/presley.html

    http://www.idreamof.com/famous/bios/presley_elvis_aaron.html

    http://www.grosser-apfel.com/usa-presidents/index_48.htm

    Übrigens hat Carter - der erste Präsident, der in einem Krankenhaus zur Welt gekommen war - einen deutschen Vorfahren, den Winzer Valentin Pressler aus der Pfalz. Der hat noch einen anderen Nachkommen in den USA: Elvis Presley.
     
    He was the first president born in a hospital. Fancy that. He is the first president who could vote before he was 21; Obama is only the second.

    He is the first president who could vote before he was 21; Obama is only the second.

    I’m not sure I understand that.

    The 26th Amendment was passed in July 1971, and so, for a president to have been able to vote before he was 21, he would have had to be born after July 1950. Carter was born in 1924.

    • Replies: @Glaivester
    Georgia lowered the voting age to 18 in 1943.

    Jimmy Carter is from Georgia.

    , @Glaivester
    Rule of thumb:

    If something is said to have happened and the dates do not line up with the famous date that allowed such things to happen, always look to see if some states did it before it was made national (e.g. female suffrage).
  79. @PiltdownMan

    He is the first president who could vote before he was 21; Obama is only the second.
     
    I'm not sure I understand that.

    The 26th Amendment was passed in July 1971, and so, for a president to have been able to vote before he was 21, he would have had to be born after July 1950. Carter was born in 1924.

    Georgia lowered the voting age to 18 in 1943.

    Jimmy Carter is from Georgia.

  80. @PiltdownMan

    He is the first president who could vote before he was 21; Obama is only the second.
     
    I'm not sure I understand that.

    The 26th Amendment was passed in July 1971, and so, for a president to have been able to vote before he was 21, he would have had to be born after July 1950. Carter was born in 1924.

    Rule of thumb:

    If something is said to have happened and the dates do not line up with the famous date that allowed such things to happen, always look to see if some states did it before it was made national (e.g. female suffrage).

  81. @PseudonymousMe
    Seriously, though, it perhaps says something about Trump’s IQ. His dad must have been 130+, his uncle 150+. His kids are well-spoken and I’m guessing about 135.

    Yet he, the most wildly successful of the bunch, based on accomplishments a historically great figure, who ran and won a Quixotic one-man campaign against the arrayed forces of evil and temporal power, which no-one else could conceivably have done, invariably sounds like a complete effing moron. With a tenuous grasp of the facts or legal principles or ideology or the underlying reasons for things being as they are.

    If you listened to him without knowledge of his achievements, you would judge him a generous 110 IQ, but with an EQ (Energy Quotient) of 250.

    Is he:
    1) An idiot savant at winning;
    2) So smart we can’t fathom his ways;
    3) Acting dumb;
    4) The luckiest bastard ever born;
    5) Divinely blessed; or
    6) All of the above.

    If you look at older video of him on talk shows in the early 1990s, he is very well spoken and sharp. I think he’s just gotten older and senility is setting in.

    Even so, still better than Hillary.

    • Agree: International Jew
    • Replies: @syonredux

    If you look at older video of him on talk shows in the early 1990s, he is very well spoken and sharp. I think he’s just gotten older and senility is setting in.
     
    I've heard people make similar comments about George W Bush, that he was far more articulate prior to running for the Presidency.
    , @Twodees Partain
    I think it's all those Diet Cokes. Both aspartame and sucralose are neurotoxic.
  82. Thank you! I did wonder about that vaguely, but did not follow up.

  83. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @HA
    " I’m being told something with a generic description of 'death ray' is impossible."

    Who says? Assuming your wallet is fat, you can go out today and buy yourself a laser -- i.e. a device that emits very intense EM radiation -- that can cut through steel. How is that not a death ray?

    An X ray machine or linear accelerator could be called a “death ray” because if misused it could kill people, but they aren’t particularly suited to that, especially at any distance. Lasers, of the right type and sufficient power, would be little more efective, but they are awkward as weapons, at least at present.

    • Replies: @HA
    "Lasers, of the right type and sufficient power, would be little more efective, but they are awkward as weapons..."

    So what?, I say. A cannon that needed to be drawn by a team of mules was a very awkward weapon. So was a catapult. So was an elephant. The awkwardness did prevent them becoming deadly weapons. Admittedly, if one has plentiful access to guns, as is the case, a death ray amounts to overkill, but that's a side issue.

    Moreover:


    The US navy demonstrated its new 30-kilowatt laser weapon system in the Persian Gulf, near Iranian waters. The device, which is 30 million times more powerful than a laser pointer, is capable of targeting mounted weapons systems on fast-moving boats, and destroying drones in mid-flight. According to the navy, a much more powerful 150 kilowatt system is currently in development
     
  84. @Jack D

    Intelligence is between 60-70
     
    What? Maybe in Bengal. In the US an IQ below 70 is considered mentally retarded. Maybe there is some different scale used in India because we are not on the same page here.

    YOu really aren’t. You seem even more retarded. Intelligence is 60-70 percent genetic. That is exactly what is taken from my words if you read it, because I literally mention regression to the mean after

    • Replies: @Alden
    I just re read your post. We’re standard American English speakers here. In standard American English your post meant intelligence is 60-70. You meant 60-70 percent hereditary but you didn’t complete your sentence.
  85. @Counterinsurgency

    Intelligence is between 60-70, and there is regression to the mean.
     
    Definitely ROMA data.

    Counterinsurgency

    The inheritance. Shouldve been clearer because I did mention regression to the mean right after.

  86. @syonredux

    No it really doesnt. Intelligence is between 60-70,
     
    White American mean is 100, with the bulk of the White population occupying the 85-115 range.

    and there is regression to the mean. There’s his mom too and we dont know much about that. 110-115 is where he would be
     
    Not impossible, but that sounds too low. For example, George W Bush's IQ seems to have been around 125:



    http://www.unz.com/isteve/my-article-on-john-f-kerrys-iq/

    If you read my comment I did mention regression to the mean so that should pretty much mean I was talking about the heritability, which is between that range. I mention it in another comment on this thread. Plus, George Bush was smart. So what? You do know he faked his accent right? To basically make himself out to be the humble Texas guy or whatever to appeal to his numbskull voter base.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    If you read my comment I did mention regression to the mean so that should pretty much mean I was talking about the heritability, which is between that range.
     
    Is English your second language?

    Plus, George Bush was smart. So what? You do know he faked his accent right? To basically make himself out to be the humble Texas guy or whatever to appeal to his numbskull voter base.
     
    The point is that Bush's manner tricked people into underestimating his IQ. I suspect that something similar is at work where Trump is concerned.
  87. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Modern physics is a house of cards built on assumptions "proving" other assumptions yet I'm being told something with a generic description of "death ray" is impossible.

    @Ron Unz

    Modern physics is a house of cards built on assumptions “proving” other assumptions yet I’m being told something with a generic description of “death ray” is impossible.

    Lol, I noticed that to. They’re very deft at dismissing theories which don’t come with the imprimatur of the academy or establishment (which would include any theory advanced by anyone outside of the academy or establishment). In Ron Unz’s discussion with Steve Hsu— was a podcast which Sailer posted last month— Ron mentions meeting Richard Feynman and discussing an idea he (Unz) had been developing on black holes and electromagnetic radiation and the implication it would have on the inflationary universe hypothesis. Ron said he was impressed by Feynman immediately countering with implications and suggestions. IMHO, I think Ron mistook Feynman’s honed apologetics skills for his brilliance.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I think Ron mistook Feynman’s honed apologetics skills for his brilliance.

    How many others honed their apologetics skills to Feynman's level? Gell-Mann?

  88. HA says:
    @Anonymous
    An X ray machine or linear accelerator could be called a "death ray" because if misused it could kill people, but they aren't particularly suited to that, especially at any distance. Lasers, of the right type and sufficient power, would be little more efective, but they are awkward as weapons, at least at present.

    “Lasers, of the right type and sufficient power, would be little more efective, but they are awkward as weapons…”

    So what?, I say. A cannon that needed to be drawn by a team of mules was a very awkward weapon. So was a catapult. So was an elephant. The awkwardness did prevent them becoming deadly weapons. Admittedly, if one has plentiful access to guns, as is the case, a death ray amounts to overkill, but that’s a side issue.

    Moreover:

    The US navy demonstrated its new 30-kilowatt laser weapon system in the Persian Gulf, near Iranian waters. The device, which is 30 million times more powerful than a laser pointer, is capable of targeting mounted weapons systems on fast-moving boats, and destroying drones in mid-flight. According to the navy, a much more powerful 150 kilowatt system is currently in development

  89. @BengaliCanadianDude
    If you read my comment I did mention regression to the mean so that should pretty much mean I was talking about the heritability, which is between that range. I mention it in another comment on this thread. Plus, George Bush was smart. So what? You do know he faked his accent right? To basically make himself out to be the humble Texas guy or whatever to appeal to his numbskull voter base.

    If you read my comment I did mention regression to the mean so that should pretty much mean I was talking about the heritability, which is between that range.

    Is English your second language?

    Plus, George Bush was smart. So what? You do know he faked his accent right? To basically make himself out to be the humble Texas guy or whatever to appeal to his numbskull voter base.

    The point is that Bush’s manner tricked people into underestimating his IQ. I suspect that something similar is at work where Trump is concerned.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    English is my first language, and I don't really apply my intelligence on here as much as I should. ANyways, thats for another day. My sentence made sense, just had some punctuation problems
    , @Reg Cæsar

    The point is that Bush’s manner tricked people into underestimating his IQ. I suspect that something similar is at work where Trump is concerned.
     
    Worked wonderfully for Reagan. A degree from Eureka made it all the more effective.

    What is Eureka's seal? If it isn't a naked Archimedes running dripping through the stoa, it should be.
    , @Twodees Partain
    "The point is that Bush’s manner tricked people into underestimating his IQ."

    I don't think that anyone has ever really underestimated W's intelligence. It may not even be possible.
  90. @Don't Look at Me
    If you look at older video of him on talk shows in the early 1990s, he is very well spoken and sharp. I think he's just gotten older and senility is setting in.

    Even so, still better than Hillary.

    If you look at older video of him on talk shows in the early 1990s, he is very well spoken and sharp. I think he’s just gotten older and senility is setting in.

    I’ve heard people make similar comments about George W Bush, that he was far more articulate prior to running for the Presidency.

  91. @Charlesz Martel
    I think Gerald Ford was adopted, no?

    King was his birth father. His birth dad was a violent drunk whom his mother left shortly after he was born but grandpa King paid child support. Gerald Ford Sr. was his stepdad.

  92. @anonymous
    long-running 4chan joke that he discovered a time machine. how else to explain just how lucky Donald seems to be vis a vis his enemies?

    “how else to explain just how lucky Donald seems to be vis a vis his enemies?”

    a few months ago the governor of Puerto Rico was threatening to punch Trump in the mouth, now he’s resigning.

    Trump luck is astronomical. or it’s a time machine. one or the other.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Evil people have the habit of hating, despising, and making enemies of so many good people that it always looks like a random good person has a run of luck when the evil guy goes down for the count. It's not luck--that's just an illusion--it's just that the evil person covers too much territory with that excess hateful energy of theirs.
  93. @syonredux

    Modern physics is a house of cards built on assumptions “proving” other assumptions
     
    I hope that you're not another relativity denier....

    yet I’m being told something with a generic description of “death ray” is impossible.
     
    Because it's too vague. "Death rays" have a genealogy going back at least to the heat-rays used by the invading Martians in Wells' The War of the Worlds.If we're going to take such claims seriously, we first need details (What kind of rays?How are they produced? What's the power source?).

    Funny that I said house of cards built on assumptions proving other assumptions and you knew exactly what I meant, as well as responded defensively.

    What’s that saying about the dog that yelps is the one you hit when you throw a rock?

    Also, that something is “too vague” is not the same as “impossible”.

  94. @HA
    " I’m being told something with a generic description of 'death ray' is impossible."

    Who says? Assuming your wallet is fat, you can go out today and buy yourself a laser -- i.e. a device that emits very intense EM radiation -- that can cut through steel. How is that not a death ray?

    “Who says?”

    The crop of autists/experts at everything here at eye steve dawt com.

  95. @the one they call Desanex

    I don’t really like comic books, but I like history that sounds like a comic book.
     
    This is more like a Tijuana bible:

    While the scientist Nikola Tesla
    Did it doggy-style with Marie Dressler,
    He said “Tugboat Annie,
    The size of your fanny
    Exceeds that of a Japanese wrestler!”

    https://www.altfg.com/film/wp-content/uploads/images/dressler-marie.jpg

    Where did you find that picture of Tiny Duck’s mom?

  96. @Don't Look at Me
    If you look at older video of him on talk shows in the early 1990s, he is very well spoken and sharp. I think he's just gotten older and senility is setting in.

    Even so, still better than Hillary.

    I think it’s all those Diet Cokes. Both aspartame and sucralose are neurotoxic.

  97. @syonredux

    If you read my comment I did mention regression to the mean so that should pretty much mean I was talking about the heritability, which is between that range.
     
    Is English your second language?

    Plus, George Bush was smart. So what? You do know he faked his accent right? To basically make himself out to be the humble Texas guy or whatever to appeal to his numbskull voter base.
     
    The point is that Bush's manner tricked people into underestimating his IQ. I suspect that something similar is at work where Trump is concerned.

    English is my first language, and I don’t really apply my intelligence on here as much as I should. ANyways, thats for another day. My sentence made sense, just had some punctuation problems

  98. @syonredux

    If you read my comment I did mention regression to the mean so that should pretty much mean I was talking about the heritability, which is between that range.
     
    Is English your second language?

    Plus, George Bush was smart. So what? You do know he faked his accent right? To basically make himself out to be the humble Texas guy or whatever to appeal to his numbskull voter base.
     
    The point is that Bush's manner tricked people into underestimating his IQ. I suspect that something similar is at work where Trump is concerned.

    The point is that Bush’s manner tricked people into underestimating his IQ. I suspect that something similar is at work where Trump is concerned.

    Worked wonderfully for Reagan. A degree from Eureka made it all the more effective.

    What is Eureka’s seal? If it isn’t a naked Archimedes running dripping through the stoa, it should be.

  99. @syonredux

    If you read my comment I did mention regression to the mean so that should pretty much mean I was talking about the heritability, which is between that range.
     
    Is English your second language?

    Plus, George Bush was smart. So what? You do know he faked his accent right? To basically make himself out to be the humble Texas guy or whatever to appeal to his numbskull voter base.
     
    The point is that Bush's manner tricked people into underestimating his IQ. I suspect that something similar is at work where Trump is concerned.

    “The point is that Bush’s manner tricked people into underestimating his IQ.”

    I don’t think that anyone has ever really underestimated W’s intelligence. It may not even be possible.

  100. @Buzz Mohawk
    LOL

    BTW John Logie Baird heroically picked up the earliest concepts and took them to their limits to create and refine electro-mechanical television. The best it could provide was an extremely low resolution image of a simple subject. A barely-recognizeable, talking face was all you got.

    Philo Farnsworth came up with an all-electronic solution to that problem. Vladimir Zworykin and David Sarnoff then stole Farnsworth's invention and improved it and added to it for RCA. That company, its NBC network, and others then went on to develop a monster that served the powers that be. NBC television was born a bastard and still is.

    GE was involved in all this, too. WGY in Schenectady is the second-oldest station after KDKA, and was the genesis of the NBC radio network. The triad NBC used as its calling card was G-E-C. General Electric Corporation.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    RCA owned NBC, and RCA was a GE subsidiary in a deal with Westinghouse...under the auspices of the US Navy:

    https://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Bookshelf/History/RCA-A-Historical-Perspective-1919-1984.pdf

    (What you don't find online, yowza. I have a photocopy of that somewhere in my files--given to me by an engineer friend who worked at the USN/RCA AEGIS site in New Jersey. The publication was new at the time; the AT&T Consent Decree/1982 and Bell breakup/1984+ was in full swing and much discussed by some. A large new frontier of telcoms technology and corporate bidness was opening, and you'll see this publication closes in consideration of all that.)

    The notes "G-E-C" comprised one form of NBC's switching cue and later audial logo; there was also a "C-A-F" version. The cues were produced by both Deagan chimes and the Rangertone machine...and other devices as well. Other networks and stations used these chimes for various attention-getting functions.

    http://www.nbcchimes.info/nbcsounds.php

    http://www.nbcchimes.info/radiochimes.php
  101. @PseudonymousMe
    Seriously, though, it perhaps says something about Trump’s IQ. His dad must have been 130+, his uncle 150+. His kids are well-spoken and I’m guessing about 135.

    Yet he, the most wildly successful of the bunch, based on accomplishments a historically great figure, who ran and won a Quixotic one-man campaign against the arrayed forces of evil and temporal power, which no-one else could conceivably have done, invariably sounds like a complete effing moron. With a tenuous grasp of the facts or legal principles or ideology or the underlying reasons for things being as they are.

    If you listened to him without knowledge of his achievements, you would judge him a generous 110 IQ, but with an EQ (Energy Quotient) of 250.

    Is he:
    1) An idiot savant at winning;
    2) So smart we can’t fathom his ways;
    3) Acting dumb;
    4) The luckiest bastard ever born;
    5) Divinely blessed; or
    6) All of the above.

    3 – acting dumb [as a fox]

    If you listen to him answer the press he’s pretty quick on his feet, unlike Obama, who truly is in the 110 range. My guesstimate of Trump’s IQ is he’s in the 138 range. I don’t think you can call any billionaire dumb, but if we’re going to submit not-so-bright billionaires my top pick is Tom Steyer.

  102. @PseudonymousMe
    Seriously, though, it perhaps says something about Trump’s IQ. His dad must have been 130+, his uncle 150+. His kids are well-spoken and I’m guessing about 135.

    Yet he, the most wildly successful of the bunch, based on accomplishments a historically great figure, who ran and won a Quixotic one-man campaign against the arrayed forces of evil and temporal power, which no-one else could conceivably have done, invariably sounds like a complete effing moron. With a tenuous grasp of the facts or legal principles or ideology or the underlying reasons for things being as they are.

    If you listened to him without knowledge of his achievements, you would judge him a generous 110 IQ, but with an EQ (Energy Quotient) of 250.

    Is he:
    1) An idiot savant at winning;
    2) So smart we can’t fathom his ways;
    3) Acting dumb;
    4) The luckiest bastard ever born;
    5) Divinely blessed; or
    6) All of the above.

    Despite being a New Yorker, DJT is a Philly punk.

    Which is to say a Quantum Punk.

    https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/punk-city-robert-laird/1125287001

    A bit like a member of the Sailer commentariat, Discordian faith, or Church of the SubGenius. Only much earlier, and while “the internet” was merely some gawky and quirky emergent technical interface spritzed out of DARPA for experimental use by a handful of geeks at places like Penn Engineering, Wharton, and Annenberg to compare big ugly sets of numbers across the continent or seas.

  103. @Reg Cæsar
    GE was involved in all this, too. WGY in Schenectady is the second-oldest station after KDKA, and was the genesis of the NBC radio network. The triad NBC used as its calling card was G-E-C. General Electric Corporation.

    RCA owned NBC, and RCA was a GE subsidiary in a deal with Westinghouse…under the auspices of the US Navy:

    https://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Bookshelf/History/RCA-A-Historical-Perspective-1919-1984.pdf

    (What you don’t find online, yowza. I have a photocopy of that somewhere in my files–given to me by an engineer friend who worked at the USN/RCA AEGIS site in New Jersey. The publication was new at the time; the AT&T Consent Decree/1982 and Bell breakup/1984+ was in full swing and much discussed by some. A large new frontier of telcoms technology and corporate bidness was opening, and you’ll see this publication closes in consideration of all that.)

    The notes “G-E-C” comprised one form of NBC’s switching cue and later audial logo; there was also a “C-A-F” version. The cues were produced by both Deagan chimes and the Rangertone machine…and other devices as well. Other networks and stations used these chimes for various attention-getting functions.

    http://www.nbcchimes.info/nbcsounds.php

    http://www.nbcchimes.info/radiochimes.php

  104. @Anon
    @Ron Unz

    Modern physics is a house of cards built on assumptions “proving” other assumptions yet I’m being told something with a generic description of “death ray” is impossible.
     
    Lol, I noticed that to. They’re very deft at dismissing theories which don’t come with the imprimatur of the academy or establishment (which would include any theory advanced by anyone outside of the academy or establishment). In Ron Unz’s discussion with Steve Hsu— was a podcast which Sailer posted last month— Ron mentions meeting Richard Feynman and discussing an idea he (Unz) had been developing on black holes and electromagnetic radiation and the implication it would have on the inflationary universe hypothesis. Ron said he was impressed by Feynman immediately countering with implications and suggestions. IMHO, I think Ron mistook Feynman’s honed apologetics skills for his brilliance.

    I think Ron mistook Feynman’s honed apologetics skills for his brilliance.

    How many others honed their apologetics skills to Feynman’s level? Gell-Mann?

  105. @Reg Cæsar

    The last President to have a distinguished relative outside of politics might have been Eisenhower, whose brother Milton was a famous university president
     
    That depends on how far out you stretch "relative". Jimmy Carter is related to Elvis Presley, whose name derives from the Pressler Palatine ancestor they share.



    http://www.germanheritage.com/biographies/mtoz/presley.html

    http://www.idreamof.com/famous/bios/presley_elvis_aaron.html

    http://www.grosser-apfel.com/usa-presidents/index_48.htm

    Übrigens hat Carter - der erste Präsident, der in einem Krankenhaus zur Welt gekommen war - einen deutschen Vorfahren, den Winzer Valentin Pressler aus der Pfalz. Der hat noch einen anderen Nachkommen in den USA: Elvis Presley.
     
    He was the first president born in a hospital. Fancy that. He is the first president who could vote before he was 21; Obama is only the second.

    Carter was also a cousin of Berry Gordy, founder of Motown Records through his mother.

    https://famouskin.com/famous-kin-chart.php?name=12937+jimmy+carter&kin=35588+berry+gordy&via=27904+james+thomas+gordy

  106. @PiltdownMan

    Trump obviously comes from a bright, intellectual family – uncle MIT professor, sister Federal judge, Trump graduates from Penn. But his image among Leftists is that he is childlike.
     
    I agree, and mentioned something along the same lines in a comment last year.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/tesla-trump-and-death-rays/#comment-2632446


    Mr. Sailer replied


    The last President to have a distinguished relative outside of politics might have been Eisenhower, whose brother Milton was a famous university president.

    The two Romneys were highly successful in business but they didn’t get to be President, the earlier two McCains in the navy. Dukakis had a cousin who won a Best Supporting Actress Oscar in “Moonstruck.”

    Teddy Roosevelt had numerous descendants who rose high in the military and the deep state. As far down as Teddy Roosevelt V was I think a Navy SEAL before becoming a Wall Streeter.

    President Taft’s son Robert was another politician, but a distinguished one.

    It’s pretty interesting how few really distinguished relatives presidents and their opponents have had.
     

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/tesla-trump-and-death-rays/#comment-2632641

    I suppose Joe Kennedy Sr. would count.

  107. @bomag
    I'd vote for 1) An idiot savant at winning.

    I've known successful people who didn't have polish or book smarts, but they had focus and an "eye for the battlefield".

    Trump has a knack for quickly reading people and situations that pretty much carries him through.

    Trump has a knack for quickly reading people and situations that pretty much carries him through.

    Dunno about that. Look at all the people he’s hired who’ve undermined his policies and even turned against him in the most vicious ways — https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/04/trumps-insults-idiot-woodward-806455

    • Agree: Mr. Anon
    • Replies: @bomag
    Well, political types are a critical, carping bunch; plus, it's mostly swamp types available for these jobs.

    Highlights that Trump is an instinct guy; he is not going to inspire by deep thought.
  108. @El Dato
    Meanwhile, the Modern Reboot of the 90s crypto war is going into higher gear:

    Backdoors won't weaken your encryption, wails FBI boss. And he's right. They won't – they'll fscking torpedo it: Give it a Wray, give it a Wray, give it a Wray now: Big Chris steps in to defend blowing a hole in personal crypto

    “I know we’ve started hearing increasingly from experts like cryptographers and cryptologists that there are solutions to be had that account for both strong cybersecurity and the need for lawful access,” he rumbled on. “And I believe those solutions will be even better if we seek them together.”
     
    We are also hearing increasingly from experts that the Earth is actually flat. Doesn't make it true. For now, no politicial carriage could be leashed to that idea, so it hasn't been used yet. It's probably just a matter of time until someone in administration will officially endorse that idea to get some law passed.

    We are also hearing increasingly from experts that the Earth is actually flat.

    I hate to nitpick, but I feel confident that no one any reasonable person would characterize as “an expert” on much of anything, is promoting the idea that the world is flat.

  109. Anon[109] • Disclaimer says:
    @PseudonymousMe
    Seriously, though, it perhaps says something about Trump’s IQ. His dad must have been 130+, his uncle 150+. His kids are well-spoken and I’m guessing about 135.

    Yet he, the most wildly successful of the bunch, based on accomplishments a historically great figure, who ran and won a Quixotic one-man campaign against the arrayed forces of evil and temporal power, which no-one else could conceivably have done, invariably sounds like a complete effing moron. With a tenuous grasp of the facts or legal principles or ideology or the underlying reasons for things being as they are.

    If you listened to him without knowledge of his achievements, you would judge him a generous 110 IQ, but with an EQ (Energy Quotient) of 250.

    Is he:
    1) An idiot savant at winning;
    2) So smart we can’t fathom his ways;
    3) Acting dumb;
    4) The luckiest bastard ever born;
    5) Divinely blessed; or
    6) All of the above.

    One thing Howard Gardner did not really talk about was Executive Intelligence. There is a type of practical intelligence in which a person sees a human problem and gets it fixed. A good executive can see a solution during an emergency in one split second and start solving it while everyone else is still in shock and is too dazed to figure out what to do. A good general shows this in battle. Trump does not lose his head or nerves in a crisis or under any amount of pressure. He just goes on the attack when other people would be reeling back.

  110. Anon[109] • Disclaimer says:
    @prime noticer
    "how else to explain just how lucky Donald seems to be vis a vis his enemies?"

    a few months ago the governor of Puerto Rico was threatening to punch Trump in the mouth, now he's resigning.

    Trump luck is astronomical. or it's a time machine. one or the other.

    Evil people have the habit of hating, despising, and making enemies of so many good people that it always looks like a random good person has a run of luck when the evil guy goes down for the count. It’s not luck–that’s just an illusion–it’s just that the evil person covers too much territory with that excess hateful energy of theirs.

  111. @Anonymous
    Trump and his family are obviously intelligent, but there is also a dastardly streak that seems to run in the family that would raise the odds of this sort of thing.

    Trump's grandfather emigrated from his native Germany without notifying authorities and avoided mandatory military service. In the US, his grandfather ran a hotel and brothel out West.

    Trump's father pretended to be Swedish and was of course in real estate development, which is a sleazy industry that tends to attract and reward dastardly types, especially in New York City. Trump went into real estate and developed a reputation for stiffing contractors and creditors. Then went on to succeed in showbiz and politics.

    So basically you’re saying that the Trump family history in the US basically proves the central thesis of the book, “Be Slightly Evil?”

  112. @John
    What I'll be doing after work, over my sundowner: decoding the Serbian Wikipedia article on Sava Kosanovic. Like many people from that part of the world, he packed a lot of...something into a not very long life. At some point after WWII he happened to be Yugoslavia's ambassador to Mexico. At some point before WWII he was sentenced under a Law Concerning The Protection Of The Country and confined to the region of his birth. 1943 would have been a most interesting time to be representing Yugoslavia at all, as the country was presumed by many to have gone out of existence, pretty much only the Communists had the vision and the will to keep it going, but even the existence of Tito was uncertain.

    Yugoslavia lasted, one way or another, only from 1929 to 1991; and yet it abides somehow and may be a permanently remarkable place. If only to its talkative heirs: besides Serbian Wikipedia there are Croatian and Serbo-Croatian and they are not the same. I for one contrast the place with many Central American countries, which were around before Yugoslavia, still are, and have accomplished nothing memorable; and with many African countries, which were conceived well after Yugoslavia was and should've had their tickets punched sooner. Yet there is no indication that any of this is ever going to change. If Zaire and Honduras were totally depopulated, First-Worlders would insist that they were still on the map, still sovereign nations.

    The guy was a total piece of subversive shit.
    He was a member of a fifth column “Serb” party that undermined the government and Serb interests in Yugoslavia.
    He was implicated in the British- and Black Hand remnant-orchestrated March 1941 coup.
    Even worse, he falsified the nature of Croat genocidal state by claiming they were going after Croats as well, and that Serbs and Croats should fight together.

    You guessed it correctly, he was a prominent Freemason and Yugocommunist as well.

    His final impact? Ordering the cremation of Nikola Tesla’s body against his own wishes – a devout Orthodox Christian born to a Orthodox priest family wanted Christian burial.

    His descendants live in Croatia, where Serbs went from 30% to 3% – what a surprise.

    • Replies: @HA
    "Ordering the cremation of Nikola Tesla’s body against his own wishes – a devout Orthodox Christian

    He was neither devout, nor, really, a Christian in any traditional sense.


    "To me, the universe is simply a great machine which never came into being and never will end"

    "what we call 'soul' or 'spirit,' is nothing more than the sum of the functionings of the body. When this functioning ceases, the 'soul' or the 'spirit' ceases likewise".
     

  113. @Anonymous
    Trump probably isn't as intelligent as his uncle was, though. There's variation within families too. It's not like every in families is equally intelligent.

    trump became a billionaire in a ruthless field where he was known for running rings around people in complicated deals/schemes.

  114. @BengaliCanadianDude
    YOu really aren't. You seem even more retarded. Intelligence is 60-70 percent genetic. That is exactly what is taken from my words if you read it, because I literally mention regression to the mean after

    I just re read your post. We’re standard American English speakers here. In standard American English your post meant intelligence is 60-70. You meant 60-70 percent hereditary but you didn’t complete your sentence.

  115. HA says:
    @Epigon
    The guy was a total piece of subversive shit.
    He was a member of a fifth column “Serb” party that undermined the government and Serb interests in Yugoslavia.
    He was implicated in the British- and Black Hand remnant-orchestrated March 1941 coup.
    Even worse, he falsified the nature of Croat genocidal state by claiming they were going after Croats as well, and that Serbs and Croats should fight together.

    You guessed it correctly, he was a prominent Freemason and Yugocommunist as well.

    His final impact? Ordering the cremation of Nikola Tesla’s body against his own wishes - a devout Orthodox Christian born to a Orthodox priest family wanted Christian burial.

    His descendants live in Croatia, where Serbs went from 30% to 3% - what a surprise.

    “Ordering the cremation of Nikola Tesla’s body against his own wishes – a devout Orthodox Christian

    He was neither devout, nor, really, a Christian in any traditional sense.

    “To me, the universe is simply a great machine which never came into being and never will end”

    “what we call ‘soul’ or ‘spirit,’ is nothing more than the sum of the functionings of the body. When this functioning ceases, the ‘soul’ or the ‘spirit’ ceases likewise”.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  116. anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @PseudonymousMe
    Seriously, though, it perhaps says something about Trump’s IQ. His dad must have been 130+, his uncle 150+. His kids are well-spoken and I’m guessing about 135.

    Yet he, the most wildly successful of the bunch, based on accomplishments a historically great figure, who ran and won a Quixotic one-man campaign against the arrayed forces of evil and temporal power, which no-one else could conceivably have done, invariably sounds like a complete effing moron. With a tenuous grasp of the facts or legal principles or ideology or the underlying reasons for things being as they are.

    If you listened to him without knowledge of his achievements, you would judge him a generous 110 IQ, but with an EQ (Energy Quotient) of 250.

    Is he:
    1) An idiot savant at winning;
    2) So smart we can’t fathom his ways;
    3) Acting dumb;
    4) The luckiest bastard ever born;
    5) Divinely blessed; or
    6) All of the above.

    If you listened to him without knowledge of his achievements, you would judge him a generous 110 IQ, but with an EQ (Energy Quotient) of 250.

    Since we are listing “quotients” distribution, let me add a couple for the pompous Orange-utan;

    Morality Quotient 25
    Spirituality Quotient 26
    … ?

    A sorry excuse for a human, indeed!!

  117. @International Jew

    Trump has a knack for quickly reading people and situations that pretty much carries him through.
     
    Dunno about that. Look at all the people he's hired who've undermined his policies and even turned against him in the most vicious ways — https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/04/trumps-insults-idiot-woodward-806455

    Well, political types are a critical, carping bunch; plus, it’s mostly swamp types available for these jobs.

    Highlights that Trump is an instinct guy; he is not going to inspire by deep thought.

  118. Now I know where Joseph Heller boosted the idea for the Lepage Glue Gun in “Catch 22”

  119. From Peep Show’s Mitchell & Webb:

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