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While Toronto celebrates the triumph of Globo-American Lowest Common Denominator culture over Canadian traditions, Quebec is going in a different direction. From CTVNews:

Quebec passes controversial immigration reform bill in rare overnight vote

McGill University professor Robert Lekey says there may be backlash to the controversial bill and enforcing it may be difficult.

Immigration advocates are speaking out after the CAQ passed Bill 9, leaving 18,000 hopeful Canadians with denied applications.

Quebec scraps thousands of immigration applicants

Cillian O’Brien, CTVNews.ca writer

Published Sunday, June 16, 2019 9:29AM EDT

The Quebec government has passed a controversial immigration reform bill which will scrap thousands of ongoing applications to live and work in the province. …

Opposition parties said the measure, which scraps immigration applications from 18,000 skilled workers and refunds their fees, forcing them to start over again, is extreme and undemocratic. …

The legislation gives the province more authority over who receives permanent residency, which will involve a “values test” for would-be immigrants.

Liberal MNA Dominique Anglade slammed the CAQ government for forcing the bill through in a rush before politicians take their summer vacation.

“We are trying to attract the best talent in the world,” she said.

“We are a welcoming society and with this we are sending a very wrong message, and they’re underestimating the impact long-term.”

… The province’s minister for immigration, Simon Jolin-Barrette, said the bill will help Quebec’s economy.

“At 4:08 am this morning, Bill 9, An Act to enhance Québec’s economic prosperity and respond adequately to the needs of the labor market through the successful integration of immigrants, was adopted,” he tweeted. …

Toronto-based immigration lawyer Max Chaudhary told CTV News Channel the government is well within its authority to pass the law.

“The amount of fairness owed to foreign nationals seeking immigration to Quebec is quite limited, and as such this is consistent with an economic focus for Quebec,” he said.

He said the values test could be subject to a challenge under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms but it depends on “how specific and how culturally-driven the criteria is.”

“It is a reality that there are too many people immigrating to the urban centres of Quebec so it does make logical common sense for the government to try to incentivize the candidates to go to rural parts of Quebec, assuming there is an economic need,” he added.

The legislature continues sitting Sunday to debate Bill 21, controversial secularism legislation that would ban public servants including teachers, police officers, Crown prosecutors and prison guards from wearing religious symbols on the job.

And from Canadian Press:

Quebec bans religious symbols for state workers in new law
By Staff The Canadian Press
Sunday, June 16, 2019.

Quebec’s contentious secularism bill banning religious symbols for teachers, police officers and other public servants in positions of authority was voted into law late Sunday.

… The bill prohibits public servants in positions of authority from wearing religious symbols on the job. Its opponents say the law targets religious minorities while the government argues it affirms the Quebecois people’s secular identity. …

Liberal member Marc Tanguay said the changes would result in a “secularism police.”

Just before the final vote, the bill’s sponsor, Simon Jolin-Barrette, minister of immigration, diversity and inclusiveness, asked all legislators to “convey the principles of state secularism with calm and respect.” …

Bill 21 also forbids anyone giving or receiving a state service with their face covered — largely seen as a measure targeting full-face Islamic veils. …

Legault and his ministers have proclaimed that the bill will go down in history alongside other major pieces of legislation affirming the Quebecois nation’s values and way of life, such as the 1977 Charter of the French Language, known as Bill 101.

… The premier said Friday the bill has allowed many Quebecers to regain a sense of pride. But Pierre Arcand, interim Liberal leader, said Sunday Legault’s legacy will be “this botched bill, that can’t be applied, that violates the rights of minorities. Mr. Premier, we will remember you for this.”

Bill 21 was the second law debated and passed over the weekend. In a 62 to 42 vote, the government used its majority around 4 a.m. Sunday to push through Bill 9, which reforms the province’s immigration system….

The bill is controversial because it creates a legal framework that allows the government to force newly arrived immigrants to pass a French-language and so-called values test before becoming eligible for permanent residency.

 
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  1. “18,000 hopeful Canadians ”

    Meaning, 18,000 coolies who aren’t actually Canadians at all.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    India’s population to surpass China’s in 6yrs, nearly 10 billion total on Earth by 2050 – UN

    A newly released report by the HOPEFUL CANADIAN Division of the UN Department of Economic and Social Affairs (DESA) titled ‘The World HOPEFUL CANADIAN Prospects 2019: Highlights’ estimates that a mind-boggling 9.7 billion HOPEFUL CANADIANS will inhabit the Earth by 2050, an increase of two billion from now.

    Nine countries are projected to be responsible for over the half of that surge. Leading the way is India, which is projected to add 273 million to its already massive 1.37 billion HOPEFUL CANADIANS and overtake China, whose HOPEFUL CANADIANS are expected to shrink by 31.4 million between 2019 and 2050.

    Runner-up Nigeria is not lagging far behind, and is expected to add 200 million HOPEFUL CANADIANS by 2050 [stats probably vague]. Pakistan, Ethiopia, Tanzania, Indonesia, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Egypt, and the US are the other seven countries that will be driving the world HOPEFUL CANADIANS' growth in the next 30 years, according to the report.

    But the biggest jump in HOPEFUL CANADIAN size will happen in sub-Saharan Africa, where it will grow two-fold by 2050, a development that might further strain the fragile social systems of the countries.
     

    , @Bubba
    "Coolie" - now that brings back memories of a great movie...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91KFzLvPSJ4
  2. Wow! At first I thought Max Chaudhary is advocating common sense! The diverse get unwoke! But then

    “It is a reality that there are too many people immigrating to the urban centres of Quebec so it does make logical common sense for the government to try to incentivize the candidates to go to rural parts of Quebec, assuming there is an economic need,” he added.

    so maybe not.

    It is safe to assume that there is NO economic need for them in rural parts of Quebec.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Define "rural". Look how cities of 50,000 become "small towns" when it's convenient for The Narrative.
    , @Corn
    “It is safe to assume that there is NO economic need for them in rural parts of Quebec.”

    NYT: Crops Rot in Quebec Fields, Cows Die from Burst Unmilked Udders
    , @BengaliCanadianDude
    Lots of family doctor shortages in Canada all round, not saying we should take too many, but maybe we should have new skilled immigrants with the relevant degrees relocate to these rural desolate zones, to kind of cool down the pricing in the major agglomerations of Canada, as part of a legal mandate.
  3. I’ve thought in the past that at some point I need to figure out how to emigrate to New Zealand or something, but it seems to me Quebec could attract a lot of residents and money by reaching out to disaffected Americans. I’d trade learning to use Quebecois French to communicate for a trans-Pacific journey, although NZ probably still wins based on its climate.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    I moved to a Maritime province about a year ago and it's a lot like moving to an English speaking version of Quebec. I have my White ethnostate, my Whitemanistan right here already. Nothing is guaranteed in this life but I feel like I've bought back decades on the doomsday clock.

    We've even got this jazzy flag and coat of arms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Nova_Scotia
    , @Houston 1992
    I have heard some negative feedback about New Z. Ecological preservation is a myth--the dairy industry is careless, and contaminates the water often.
    Building construction is shoddy, and work ethic can be lousy.
    dont over commit --temp move first.
    , @Paleo Liberal
    They make it very hard to emigrate to New Zealand. I looked at what it would take to retire there. It takes an aggregate of 1 1/4 million, some of which must be invested, the rest in a rainy day fund. That is for just a temporary visa.
  4. Here’s the Premier (aks Prime Minister, aka Governor) of Quebec speaking to the press after the law was passed. I bookmarked it yesterday just because I found the staffer behind him in the saffron blazer to be kind of cute, what with all the smiling and winking and stuff:

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    She is a tranny.
    , @Cagey Beast
    Around the 3:50 mark in the video, the Premier gets a question concerning the crucifix being moved from its place above the Speaker's chair in the National Assembly,

    "Yes .... but it's still a compromise. I personally would have preferred to keep it there but it was decided to make a compromise, to be consistent. The four parties were unanimously in favour of keeping the crucifix, to move it, in effect, to another location in the Blue Chamber. It's now up to the Office of the National Assembly to decide where it is placed"

    His assistant says "in English now", meaning it's now the turn of Anglo journalists to ask questions but another reporter seems to ask a follow-up question about the crucifix.

    "It's a question ... as I see it, it's a part of our heritage. But I think everyone needs to make a compromise. We made a compromise. Everyone should make a compromise".

    https://postmediamontrealgazette2.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/que-secularism-20181009.jpg

    Here's a Montreal Gazette article on it and other crucifixes on public property around Quebec:


    The crucifix in Quebec's National Assembly: Why its symbolism matters
    Is the legislature's cross a relic of Quebec’s Catholic past? Ultimately, what place does it have in a secular society?
    ANDY RIGA Updated: February 7, 2019
    [....]
    After a complaint from the public in 2017, Saint-Sacrament hospital in Quebec City removed a crucifix but quickly put it back up after a dressing down by the health minister, a violent threat and a 13,000-name petition.
     
    https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/the-crucifix-in-quebecs-national-assembly-why-its-symbolism-matters
  5. Anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:

    Is this some sort of meritocrat protection racket: Before the fully-credentialed “best talent” will move to your unvibrant burg, you must agree to take in a treble or quadruple amount of the cheap-labor worst talent as well? That’s just the talented’s opening ante of course. It would be cruel to not admit entire “families.” Can’t you just taste the crucial variety of ethnic dining options?

  6. The intransigence of immigrationists on those bills is almost counter-productive. I suppose they thought total victory had been achieved and getting any kind of push back is impairing they ability to think straight.

    Because, in the long run, those are little more than symbolic gestures. Okay cops and teachers won’t be allowed to wear religious symbols for a while, but after another decade or two of mass immigration (and premier Legault is absolutely fine with that—our God, the economy, demands it), another decade or two of French Canadian boomers dying off and the liberal party will be back in power with enough backing to rescind the law. Sort of like how forcing immigrant children to go to french language schools didn’t make them “quebecois francophones” in any meaningful way, but did convince a sizable portion of the population that the assimilation problem was solved.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    It does have a below-replacement fertility rate:

    Went from 2.1 in 1970 to 1.36 in 1987. It rebounded to 1.6, then down to 1.4. Then it hit 1.7 in the late 2000s, now is 1.54. Far too low. However, outside of degenerate Anglo, cuck Frenchie and immigrant Montreal the TFR has always been much better. Still, work must be done.

    Interestingly: Morocco, Algeria, Haiti, and LatAm, traditionally immigrant sources have been declining to Quebec under Trudeau. Replaced by, his favorites, the Indians and the Chinese. We will see next year if this government will change the mix to increase the number of French coming in (always been a solid source of immigrants too). And Indians/Chinese are just unacceptable to Quebecois. They still hate the other immigrants too but... there's always the language.

    http://www.stat.gouv.qc.ca/statistiques/population-demographie/bilan2018.pdf

    Very interesting data is there, if you can read French.
    , @AnotherDad

    Because, in the long run, those are little more than symbolic gestures. Okay cops and teachers won’t be allowed to wear religious symbols for a while, but after another decade or two of mass immigration (and premier Legault is absolutely fine with that—our God, the economy, demands it), another decade or two of French Canadian boomers dying off and the liberal party will be back in power with enough backing to rescind the law.
     
    Exactly. I was going to say that this is just death via the mail train, rather than the express.

    Immigration--truly foreign immigration from another race or culture--when you have sub-replacement fertility is just population replacement.

    This "insight" doesn't tax my analytic abilities (even age eroded). This is literally 5th grade math. How we can have our "leaders" blathering on while failing to grasp this incredibly obvious fact is beyond me. At least the Democrat--or Canadian Liberal Party--leaders, i can understand. The smarter Chuck Schummer types do grasp it perfectly well, they are just genocidally evil.

    But what of these so-called "conservative" "leaders". What about a supposed "nationalist" leader like Legault? This is his big win--"let's die slower."?
    , @BengaliCanadianDude

    another decade or two of French Canadian boomers dying off and the liberal party will be back in power
     
    They've been voting for Liberal for a long time and they enthusiastically voted in TrudeauSR
  7. @Arclight
    I've thought in the past that at some point I need to figure out how to emigrate to New Zealand or something, but it seems to me Quebec could attract a lot of residents and money by reaching out to disaffected Americans. I'd trade learning to use Quebecois French to communicate for a trans-Pacific journey, although NZ probably still wins based on its climate.

    I moved to a Maritime province about a year ago and it’s a lot like moving to an English speaking version of Quebec. I have my White ethnostate, my Whitemanistan right here already. Nothing is guaranteed in this life but I feel like I’ve bought back decades on the doomsday clock.

    We’ve even got this jazzy flag and coat of arms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Nova_Scotia

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    Took a couple of driving trips round Nova Scotia in the 1970s. Was lucky enough to get to know some of the people. I hope that it hasn’t changed too much since then.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    How is the Gaelic language faring there?
    , @The Alarmist
    And its own version of Sydney, but without gang violence and drive-by shootings?
  8. How is Quebec, a province, able to set its own immigration policy?

    U.S. states should consider following suit.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    They are the OG oppressed minority, oppressed before it was cool. They are also exceptional at whining and screaming.

    They have all kinds of privileges.

    Right now the Anglo media is desperately in damage control mode - almost absolutely nothing appearing.

    In 2014 a similar Bill was introduced - and it provoked nonstop fury in the media and it was defeated. Now, the people have turned against immigration, even many Anglos, so the media is silent and will keep it from spilling into Ontario.

    I say BAN ALL IMMIGRATION. They are still letting in 40,000 immigrants per year, instead of 50,000.
    , @Dr. X

    U.S. states should consider following suit.
     
    They did... during the Articles of Confederation.
    , @Anonymous
    This echoes the era where, in Canada, immigration was viewed as a simple policy matter. Each province decided the net cost benefits of permitting small groups to enter and settle in the area on a periodic basis or not.

    Not the current attempt to displace dispossess and ultimately subjugate the historic Canadian peoples via mass immigration. Literally dredging the slums of Asia, Africa, the Caribbean and Latin America then dumping them on the environment schools, roads, hospitals.

    # mass immigration
    , @Brobert
    The Canadian constitution allows for both the federal government and provinces to legislate on immigration. It's a kind of messy dual-jurisdiction area and Quebec is the only province to bother exerting that right.

    I think a good avenue for citizens of the smaller, less diversified, provinces should be to get their provincial governments to demand more control on immigration instead of just taking what the feds give.
    , @Macumazahn
    You're kidding, right?
    Setting its own immigration policy is exactly what California has done.
  9. Anon[297] • Disclaimer says:

    Outside of Montreal, Quebec is overwhelmingly White.

    Even when you do see diversity outside of Montreal, it’s mainly confined to the Anglo English-speaking neighbothoods. Non-Montreal Francophone neighborhoods are oceans of Whiteness.

    Outside of Montreal, Francophone Whites tend to be very racially conscious too. If you tried to run a Rotherham or play the knockout game with them, they’d beat the tar out of you.

  10. God Bless Quebec. Vive le Quebec libre!

    Quebec used to take so much shit from the Ontario rednecks. “Fags”, “Frogs”, “Pepsis”, etc… But who is laughing now. These people are standing up and taking a stand for their culture, race, and language, while those same rednecks in Ontario are competing with millions of aliens for increasingly scarce jobs.

    The English media is almost *completely* silent on this. They would hate for Anglo-Canadians, especially Ontarians who are largely fed up, to get any ideas.

    Here is the thing. Quebeckers don’t give a fuck about you, they don’t give a fuck about me (I’m Franco-Ontarian), they don’t give a fuck about Jews. They only care about their own people. Their elites support Le Quebec. Any criticism they take only furthers their resolve to shove a fist up your ass, just to spite you. They have hundreds of years of resisting Anglo imperialism and, unlike Ireland, aren’t giving it up now.

    God Bless. A real step in the right direction. Who knew it would be Quebec doing it. All the Muslims will be moving to vibrant Toronto now.

    • Replies: @Pontius
    Pretty much stuck with the Haitians though, so a Pyrrhic victory at best.
    , @anon19
    What you are saying is wrong, rude and the opposite of the truth. Quebec is almost 100% to blame for Canada's immigration nightmare and racial mess. Quebec ZEALOUSLY - ZEALOUSLY - supported the federal Liberal party, especially chief asshole Francophone Pierre Trudeau. And it was the Liberals who opened Canada's doors to the world.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    (I’m Franco-Ontarian),
     
    Are you folks still breeding like the Dionnes? Or is Avril Lavigne more the rule now?
    , @BengaliCanadianDude

    All the Muslims will be moving to vibrant Toronto now.
     
    Nope lol they are stuck with them.

    “Fags”, “Frogs”, “Pepsis”,
     
    Still very much applicable LOL

    Vive le Quebec libre!
     
    YES!! LET THESE FROGGIES STARVE!! VIVE!!
  11. @Hail
    How is Quebec, a province, able to set its own immigration policy?

    U.S. states should consider following suit.

    They are the OG oppressed minority, oppressed before it was cool. They are also exceptional at whining and screaming.

    They have all kinds of privileges.

    Right now the Anglo media is desperately in damage control mode – almost absolutely nothing appearing.

    In 2014 a similar Bill was introduced – and it provoked nonstop fury in the media and it was defeated. Now, the people have turned against immigration, even many Anglos, so the media is silent and will keep it from spilling into Ontario.

    I say BAN ALL IMMIGRATION. They are still letting in 40,000 immigrants per year, instead of 50,000.

  12. The English and their diaspora have too much confidence. Having been on the winning side in WWI, WWII, and the cold war, they think they can’t possibly lose what they have. So they do all sorts of reckless things with their societies. The Quebecois, the Russians, they will be saved by their humility.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Yes, I think they have a far better chance than we do right now. Along with what you mentioned, I'd add that Quebecers (and other Francophone communities in the Maritimes, Manitoba and Ontario) have a crucial advantage over us Anglos: they have a professional managerial class that fights for them.

    They have politicians, journalists, lawyers and professors arguing the case for their communities while we have grinning or scolding fools just bursting with pride for constantly selling us out. We in the Anglosphere are still stuck acting like grand and generous 1960's liberals, no matter how much it hurts us. We need to wise up immediately and have a look at what other people are doing; from Quebec to Hungary, to Russia and Italy.
  13. , is extreme and undemocratic. …

    I thought passing legislation though an elected legislature was the epitome of democratic. In today’s parlance, undemocratic means legislation I do not like.

    “We are trying to attract the best talent in the world,” she said.

    In other words you are a neo-colonialist trying to extract human resources from the developing world. Shame on you.

    Quebec’s contentious secularism bill banning religious symbols for teachers, police officers and other public servants in positions of authority was voted into law late Sunday.

    Liberal member Marc Tanguay said the changes would result in a “secularism police.”

    All my life the left has pushed secularism with their own version of the secularism police. These police have hounded schools over Christmas concerts and the like for years. These police are even trying to tear down a 40 foot cross in Maryland that was erected as a memorial to the locals who died in WW1.

    Yet now when secularism is directed towards non-Christians they have a problem. This just goes to show that the push for secularism was merely an attack on Christianity.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast, utu, Dtbb
    • Replies: @Fidelios Automata
    Undemocratic is any legislation the globalists don't pre-approve.
  14. @Cagey Beast
    I moved to a Maritime province about a year ago and it's a lot like moving to an English speaking version of Quebec. I have my White ethnostate, my Whitemanistan right here already. Nothing is guaranteed in this life but I feel like I've bought back decades on the doomsday clock.

    We've even got this jazzy flag and coat of arms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Nova_Scotia

    Took a couple of driving trips round Nova Scotia in the 1970s. Was lucky enough to get to know some of the people. I hope that it hasn’t changed too much since then.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    No it's likely much the same. It's not booming but it's not stagnating either. The cars are new, the houses are generally well maintained and the main streets are doing alright. I see new residential and commercial construction all over the place. Quebec also had a huge number of "hiring" signs along my route here.

    "All along my route" made me think of de Gaulle's famous speech from the balcony of Montreal city hall:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Uv5XGq4Iyo
  15. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    God Bless Quebec. Vive le Quebec libre!

    Quebec used to take so much shit from the Ontario rednecks. "Fags", "Frogs", "Pepsis", etc... But who is laughing now. These people are standing up and taking a stand for their culture, race, and language, while those same rednecks in Ontario are competing with millions of aliens for increasingly scarce jobs.

    The English media is almost *completely* silent on this. They would hate for Anglo-Canadians, especially Ontarians who are largely fed up, to get any ideas.

    Here is the thing. Quebeckers don't give a fuck about you, they don't give a fuck about me (I'm Franco-Ontarian), they don't give a fuck about Jews. They only care about their own people. Their elites support Le Quebec. Any criticism they take only furthers their resolve to shove a fist up your ass, just to spite you. They have hundreds of years of resisting Anglo imperialism and, unlike Ireland, aren't giving it up now.

    God Bless. A real step in the right direction. Who knew it would be Quebec doing it. All the Muslims will be moving to vibrant Toronto now.

    Pretty much stuck with the Haitians though, so a Pyrrhic victory at best.

    • Replies: @anon19
    Quebec - by supporting the Liberal party and keeping it in power - is responsible for Canada's immigration mess. Without Quebec the Liberals would NEVER have established their political domination and imposed their immigrant-multicultural agenda on Canada. Google the 1972 Canadian election for example when the French tribe saved Trudeau's ass. 1972 also saw a record number of non-white immigrants arrive in Canada.
  16. Anon[373] • Disclaimer says:

    China , India, Russia, India, Korea(s), Indonesia, and the “Stans” all dont seem to have this problem of would be applicants from all over the world wanting to move there.

    Whats their secret?

    Their media is on the side of their peoples. Ours is not. No sob stories. No intelligentsia scolding from academia.

    Dont pretend to know how well this is gonna go over the next 40 years. We dont know. Nobody does. It hasnt been done before on this scale with establishment approval.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    But, muh freedom of the press!
    , @BengaliCanadianDude
    You guys could always implement a "Burmiputera" type of positive affirmative action policy like the Malays in Malaysia, which as the name suggests, favours the native Malays of said country. This type of legislation effectuates certain quotas in different lines of industry, civil service positions, and other areas for the aboriginals, and they(referring to the different races of the nation) live in relative harmony with each other.
  17. @Brobert
    The intransigence of immigrationists on those bills is almost counter-productive. I suppose they thought total victory had been achieved and getting any kind of push back is impairing they ability to think straight.

    Because, in the long run, those are little more than symbolic gestures. Okay cops and teachers won't be allowed to wear religious symbols for a while, but after another decade or two of mass immigration (and premier Legault is absolutely fine with that—our God, the economy, demands it), another decade or two of French Canadian boomers dying off and the liberal party will be back in power with enough backing to rescind the law. Sort of like how forcing immigrant children to go to french language schools didn't make them "quebecois francophones" in any meaningful way, but did convince a sizable portion of the population that the assimilation problem was solved.

    It does have a below-replacement fertility rate:

    Went from 2.1 in 1970 to 1.36 in 1987. It rebounded to 1.6, then down to 1.4. Then it hit 1.7 in the late 2000s, now is 1.54. Far too low. However, outside of degenerate Anglo, cuck Frenchie and immigrant Montreal the TFR has always been much better. Still, work must be done.

    Interestingly: Morocco, Algeria, Haiti, and LatAm, traditionally immigrant sources have been declining to Quebec under Trudeau. Replaced by, his favorites, the Indians and the Chinese. We will see next year if this government will change the mix to increase the number of French coming in (always been a solid source of immigrants too). And Indians/Chinese are just unacceptable to Quebecois. They still hate the other immigrants too but… there’s always the language.

    http://www.stat.gouv.qc.ca/statistiques/population-demographie/bilan2018.pdf

    Very interesting data is there, if you can read French.

  18. @MBlanc46
    Took a couple of driving trips round Nova Scotia in the 1970s. Was lucky enough to get to know some of the people. I hope that it hasn’t changed too much since then.

    No it’s likely much the same. It’s not booming but it’s not stagnating either. The cars are new, the houses are generally well maintained and the main streets are doing alright. I see new residential and commercial construction all over the place. Quebec also had a huge number of “hiring” signs along my route here.

    “All along my route” made me think of de Gaulle’s famous speech from the balcony of Montreal city hall:

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    Thanks. Glad to hear it.
  19. Anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:

    Toronto-based immigration lawyer Max Chaudhary told CTV News Channel the government is well within its authority to pass the law.

    “The amount of fairness owed to foreign nationals seeking immigration to Quebec is quite limited, and as such this is consistent with an economic focus for Quebec,” he said.

    He said the values test could be subject to a challenge under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms but it depends on “how specific and how culturally-driven the criteria is.”

    “It is a reality that there are too many people immigrating to the urban centres of Quebec so it does make logical common sense for the government to try to incentivize the candidates to go to rural parts of Quebec, assuming there is an economic need,” he added.

    This guy actually sounds a whole lot less extreme than most pro-immigration voices in Canada, which is slightly terrifying considering he’s an immigration lawyer.

    That being said, why should any sort of government incentivize people to move to dwindling small towns and loser cities(as Steve calls them)? Surely the logical thing is for such places to adopt policies and exploit the few advantages such status does provide(cheap cost of living) to turn themselves into municipalities that some people actually want to move to. I’ve met many people on the centre and right who vociferously oppose government policies that favour one corporation over another, but many of these same people advocate the opposite strategy when it comes to immigration policies for “revitalizing” the heartland(even though the Canadian experience is that they rarely work in the long run).

    Last month I watched a respected TV host interview a bloviating urban planner. Within 10 minutes this guy went from singing the praises of Shanghai as the city of the future to saying that a city can only be considered successful and world-class if it’s an “immigrant city”. Less than 1% of Shanghai’s population was born outside of China. So where does it get the hundreds of thousands of new Shanghainese every year? Easy, the dying villages and loser cities of China.

    But thanks to massive immigration in virtually every western country, the advantages to moving from the dying towns to the winner cities are reduced or even negated when you factor in things like crime and social isolation.

    If America’s elites hadn’t consciously decided to replace poor whites and black with poor Mexicans, you might see more mobility, especially if this were accompanied by taking a machete to planning restrictions. Some cities and towns would die off, but so did some car brands and movie studios.

  20. @SimpleSong
    The English and their diaspora have too much confidence. Having been on the winning side in WWI, WWII, and the cold war, they think they can't possibly lose what they have. So they do all sorts of reckless things with their societies. The Quebecois, the Russians, they will be saved by their humility.

    Yes, I think they have a far better chance than we do right now. Along with what you mentioned, I’d add that Quebecers (and other Francophone communities in the Maritimes, Manitoba and Ontario) have a crucial advantage over us Anglos: they have a professional managerial class that fights for them.

    They have politicians, journalists, lawyers and professors arguing the case for their communities while we have grinning or scolding fools just bursting with pride for constantly selling us out. We in the Anglosphere are still stuck acting like grand and generous 1960’s liberals, no matter how much it hurts us. We need to wise up immediately and have a look at what other people are doing; from Quebec to Hungary, to Russia and Italy.

    • Replies: @RVBlake
    This is certainly surprising and heartening news. Sometime ago, however, I read a news article featuring the smiling features of New Brunswick's premier, assuring readers of the absolute necessity of stuffing job-hungry Third Worlders into the province. He was Anglo, by the way. Is New Brunswick more cucked than the other Maritimes?
    , @Anonymous
    I was just in Budapest. The place is crawling with Vietnamese and Chinese to the point that I saw billboards in Vietnamese and signs wishing happy Chinese New Year. I was told that many of these are tourists but as they were attending primary schools and running dollar stores that seemed hard to believe. There were also African hustlers on many street corners trying to drum up business for guided tours of Hungary. This "Hungarian model" doesn't seem like anything to aspire to.
    , @franktremb
    After the British Conquest, the elite of New France almost all went back to France. Having no elite had an impact on their accent(which is an evolution of Northern France's peasant dialect) and the fact that nowadays the elite and the lowest class all have the same surnames. It created a more egalitarian society.
  21. >>“We are trying to attract the best talent in the world,” she said.

    Cucks love this idea, that the west should roam the world and hoover up the best and brightest from each and every country, and they think (correctly) that they can pull one over on the people with this appeal. I ask, though, how less disastrous is it to be replaced by smart browns/yellows/blacks than by stupid ones?

    • Replies: @istevefan
    Not to mention that by extracting their top talent, you are punishing the 99 percent or more who are left behind by reducing their chances at economic development and removing their community leaders.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Cucks love this idea, that the west should roam the world and hoover up the best and brightest from each and every country
     
    I would think this qualifies as an act of war. Let's call it such.

    A U.N. resolution calling on us to stop would at least embarrass them.
  22. Meanwhile, in respectable conservatism we have Charlie Kirk, the world’s youngest Boomer. I’m certain we could find Canadian, Brit and Australian “conservatives” singing the same song for their supper:

    • Replies: @istevefan
    It's painful to watch him.
    , @anon
    Seems like there is always an "israel" exception, no?
  23. @Hail
    How is Quebec, a province, able to set its own immigration policy?

    U.S. states should consider following suit.

    U.S. states should consider following suit.

    They did… during the Articles of Confederation.

  24. Un Quebecois: A Canadian with balls.

  25. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    God Bless Quebec. Vive le Quebec libre!

    Quebec used to take so much shit from the Ontario rednecks. "Fags", "Frogs", "Pepsis", etc... But who is laughing now. These people are standing up and taking a stand for their culture, race, and language, while those same rednecks in Ontario are competing with millions of aliens for increasingly scarce jobs.

    The English media is almost *completely* silent on this. They would hate for Anglo-Canadians, especially Ontarians who are largely fed up, to get any ideas.

    Here is the thing. Quebeckers don't give a fuck about you, they don't give a fuck about me (I'm Franco-Ontarian), they don't give a fuck about Jews. They only care about their own people. Their elites support Le Quebec. Any criticism they take only furthers their resolve to shove a fist up your ass, just to spite you. They have hundreds of years of resisting Anglo imperialism and, unlike Ireland, aren't giving it up now.

    God Bless. A real step in the right direction. Who knew it would be Quebec doing it. All the Muslims will be moving to vibrant Toronto now.

    What you are saying is wrong, rude and the opposite of the truth. Quebec is almost 100% to blame for Canada’s immigration nightmare and racial mess. Quebec ZEALOUSLY – ZEALOUSLY – supported the federal Liberal party, especially chief asshole Francophone Pierre Trudeau. And it was the Liberals who opened Canada’s doors to the world.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    Dont expect Franco to admit that though because he's an ignorant franco(slightly redundant). What about that Franco? Are they still based?
    , @Cagey Beast
    Is Quebec also responsible for Australia's abandonment of the White Australia Policy? Is it responsible for West Germany, the Netherlands and France adopting policies that allowed guest workers' families join them in Europe? Are they responsible for the 1965 Immigration Act in the US? I ask because all that happened during or just before the Trudeau era. Maybe there was a larger trend that Trudeau's government was only a part of?
  26. @Cagey Beast
    I moved to a Maritime province about a year ago and it's a lot like moving to an English speaking version of Quebec. I have my White ethnostate, my Whitemanistan right here already. Nothing is guaranteed in this life but I feel like I've bought back decades on the doomsday clock.

    We've even got this jazzy flag and coat of arms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Nova_Scotia

    How is the Gaelic language faring there?

    • Replies: @anon19
    Just a question. Why would preserving Gaelic in Nova Scotia be a good thing?
    , @Cagey Beast
    I haven't had a look around Cape Breton myself but I've heard it's doing alright:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDQt9x2sgaA
  27. The legislation gives the province more authority over who receives permanent residency, which will involve a “values test” for would-be immigrants.

    What would a “values test” have looked like sixty years ago? Reciting the Catechism in joual French?

  28. @Pontius
    Pretty much stuck with the Haitians though, so a Pyrrhic victory at best.

    Quebec – by supporting the Liberal party and keeping it in power – is responsible for Canada’s immigration mess. Without Quebec the Liberals would NEVER have established their political domination and imposed their immigrant-multicultural agenda on Canada. Google the 1972 Canadian election for example when the French tribe saved Trudeau’s ass. 1972 also saw a record number of non-white immigrants arrive in Canada.

    • Agree: LondonBob
  29. Quebec and French-Canadians generally, are very largely to blame for Canada’s immigration disaster. HOW SO? Quebec voted for and through its very highly cohesive vote, kept the federal Liberal party in power for many, many, many decades.

    It was the Liberal party, especially under globalist (“it doesn’t matter where the immigrants come from”.) Pierre Trudeau who opened Canada’s doors to the (third) world.

    Quebec supported the Liberals. Quebec KEPT them in power. It was the Liberals who decided to flood Canada with non-whites. If Quebec had been smart it would have supported an immigration restrictionist party. Because the vast majority of immigrants to Canada learn English, not “Joual” (the crap they call “French” in Quebec.) In 1867 Quebec had 36% of the seats in the house of commons, now just 23% and sinking fast. Without immigration Quebec would have a much higher share of Canada’s population. Yet they chose to support an open doors immigration party. They suceeded in watering down English Canada but at the cost of marginalizing themselves.

    • Replies: @Peter Frost
    It was the Liberal party, especially under globalist (“it doesn’t matter where the immigrants come from”.) Pierre Trudeau who opened Canada’s doors to the (third) world.

    A lot of Canadians believe this, but it's not true. The doors were opened by the Conservative government of John Diefenbaker in 1962:


    When the Progressive Conservatives came to power in 1957, they began a thorough review of immigration policy, intending to make extensive modifications to the existing act. Following the Second World War and the Holocaust, there was increased awareness and sensitivity to matters of racial discrimination. Prime Minister John Diefenbaker introduced the Bill of Rights in 1960, which rejected discrimination on the basis of race, colour, national origin, religion or sex. As such, the selection of immigrants on the basis of ethnicity and national origin became difficult to justify

     

    Diefenbaker could have made this change through a new immigration act, but he was afraid of not getting parliamentary approval:

    While the government originally intended to develop a new immigration act, this policy was introduced as a separate set of regulations. New regulations could be implemented quickly by the authority of cabinet whereas acts had to pass through various stages of approval in Parliament. By drafting these regulations, Fairclough likely introduced a more liberal policy than could have been achieved through a new immigration act.

     

    https://pier21.ca/research/immigration-history/immigration-regulations-order-in-council-pc-1962-86-1962

    When these changes were incorporated into the Immigration Act of 1967 (under the Liberal government of Lester Pearson), there was no criticism from the Conservative opposition. Pierre Elliot Trudeau took over the following year, but he made no further legislative changes. He simply carried out an immigration policy that was already in place.

    When Trudeau's long reign ended, he was eventually replaced by the Conservative Brian Mulroney. In 1987, Mulroney considerably increased immigration:


    A symbolic turning point was 1987. This was the year when the Progressive Conservative government of Brian Mulroney started to increase the numbers of immigrants admitted, and kept right on increasing them through the subsequent 1990-1992 recession abandoning the previous tap-on, tap-off policy whereby the number of immigrants admitted was cut back during recessions, when the economy was unable to absorb them.

     

    https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/mawkish-view-immigration-overlooks-facts

    Moral of the story: Immigration policy will not substantially change if we replace a Liberal government with a Conservative government. The current policy is the outcome of a bipartisan consensus.

    , @Anonymous
    If they're a third or less of the population how could they have imposed anything on the country? Anglos need to fix the problem with their own people instead of blaming the French.
    , @Jake
    The vomit of Peter Brimelow and his ilk regurgitated. If only WASP Elites ruled the world, then what a paradise it would be, because WASP Elites have never acted to harm any non-WASP whites and their cultures, nor have WASPs ever used blacks and Jews and Mohammedans and other non-whites and non-Christians as weapons and tools against the white Christians that WASPs hate. WASPs such the most pure Brit kind would never, under any circumstances, bash whites to create something like black ruled South Africa or Zimbabwe.

    So being white and trusting WASPs and marching to tune of WASP Elites is the only logical choice.

    Right?
  30. @Reg Cæsar
    How is the Gaelic language faring there?

    Just a question. Why would preserving Gaelic in Nova Scotia be a good thing?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    If immigrants avoid French-speaking areas, imagine how they feel about the Gàidhealtachd.

    They'd rather live in Bhancoubhair.


    https://vancouvergaelic.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/4-Norman-Finlayson-50th-Anniversary-1958-2-768x1082.jpg



    Welsh is doing fine in Patagonia:



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TrDh6F9j0mk
    , @Truth
    Because the country's name translates to "New Scotland?"
  31. @Cagey Beast
    Meanwhile, in respectable conservatism we have Charlie Kirk, the world's youngest Boomer. I'm certain we could find Canadian, Brit and Australian "conservatives" singing the same song for their supper:

    https://twitter.com/SoylentMerchant/status/1140703058403450885

    It’s painful to watch him.

  32. @Daniel H
    >>“We are trying to attract the best talent in the world,” she said.

    Cucks love this idea, that the west should roam the world and hoover up the best and brightest from each and every country, and they think (correctly) that they can pull one over on the people with this appeal. I ask, though, how less disastrous is it to be replaced by smart browns/yellows/blacks than by stupid ones?

    Not to mention that by extracting their top talent, you are punishing the 99 percent or more who are left behind by reducing their chances at economic development and removing their community leaders.

    • Agree: anon19
    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    In the old days it was called the “Brian Drain “
  33. In Quebec, the elites are only one generation removed from everybody else. They don’t feel different from most people, and they don’t feel the same contempt for Jos and Johanne Bleau that elites elsewhere feel. There are private schools in Quebec, but most elite individuals still send their kids to the same schools and daycare centers as everyone else.

    So they tend to share the same concerns as everyone else. And if they don’t, they soon get reminded by relatives and in-laws — who are usually ordinary people. This is something that Quebecois celebrities sometimes complain about: if they act too special, they get reminded that they’re not so special.

    The situation is similar to that of Eastern Europe, where the elites were eliminated by postwar socialist governments. The current elites are simply too new to engage in the sort of shenanigans that we see in much of the West. There’s a lesson in this, but I’m afraid to say it.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    As old Karol Wojtyla used to say, “Be not afraid.”
  34. I’m American, so Canadian issues are largely opaque to me. However, I’ve always tended to view Quebec with a sort of benign contempt — perhaps it’s a prejudice I’ve unconsciously picked up from Anglophone Canadians. I’ve always tended to think of Quebec as a bunch of dirty, smelly, snobby Frenchmen all huddled together in a handful of gorgeous cities where the architecture is awesome and the winters are brutally cold.

    Maybe I’ve been too hasty in my judgement. This post makes me think I should give them a second look…

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    I’ve always tended to think of Quebec as a bunch of dirty, smelly, snobby Frenchmen

    Hardly. Québécois are culturally more like Appalachian rednecks than Parisians, except they don’t speak English. It’s still a very rural culture where people enjoy hunting, snowmobiling, drinking beer and playing ice hockey. The main differences between Quebec and Red State Americans are a) Québécois are much better cooks (a benefit of being French) and b) they are mostly post-Catholic secularists, like a lot of Europeans, the Americanist religious heresies never took hold up there.
    , @Triumph104
    Louisiana Cajuns are descended from French Canadians.
  35. @anon19
    Just a question. Why would preserving Gaelic in Nova Scotia be a good thing?

    If immigrants avoid French-speaking areas, imagine how they feel about the Gàidhealtachd.

    They’d rather live in Bhancoubhair.

    Welsh is doing fine in Patagonia:

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
  36. @anon19
    Quebec and French-Canadians generally, are very largely to blame for Canada's immigration disaster. HOW SO? Quebec voted for and through its very highly cohesive vote, kept the federal Liberal party in power for many, many, many decades.


    It was the Liberal party, especially under globalist ("it doesn't matter where the immigrants come from".) Pierre Trudeau who opened Canada's doors to the (third) world.

    Quebec supported the Liberals. Quebec KEPT them in power. It was the Liberals who decided to flood Canada with non-whites. If Quebec had been smart it would have supported an immigration restrictionist party. Because the vast majority of immigrants to Canada learn English, not "Joual" (the crap they call "French" in Quebec.) In 1867 Quebec had 36% of the seats in the house of commons, now just 23% and sinking fast. Without immigration Quebec would have a much higher share of Canada's population. Yet they chose to support an open doors immigration party. They suceeded in watering down English Canada but at the cost of marginalizing themselves.

    It was the Liberal party, especially under globalist (“it doesn’t matter where the immigrants come from”.) Pierre Trudeau who opened Canada’s doors to the (third) world.

    A lot of Canadians believe this, but it’s not true. The doors were opened by the Conservative government of John Diefenbaker in 1962:

    When the Progressive Conservatives came to power in 1957, they began a thorough review of immigration policy, intending to make extensive modifications to the existing act. Following the Second World War and the Holocaust, there was increased awareness and sensitivity to matters of racial discrimination. Prime Minister John Diefenbaker introduced the Bill of Rights in 1960, which rejected discrimination on the basis of race, colour, national origin, religion or sex. As such, the selection of immigrants on the basis of ethnicity and national origin became difficult to justify

    Diefenbaker could have made this change through a new immigration act, but he was afraid of not getting parliamentary approval:

    While the government originally intended to develop a new immigration act, this policy was introduced as a separate set of regulations. New regulations could be implemented quickly by the authority of cabinet whereas acts had to pass through various stages of approval in Parliament. By drafting these regulations, Fairclough likely introduced a more liberal policy than could have been achieved through a new immigration act.

    https://pier21.ca/research/immigration-history/immigration-regulations-order-in-council-pc-1962-86-1962

    When these changes were incorporated into the Immigration Act of 1967 (under the Liberal government of Lester Pearson), there was no criticism from the Conservative opposition. Pierre Elliot Trudeau took over the following year, but he made no further legislative changes. He simply carried out an immigration policy that was already in place.

    When Trudeau’s long reign ended, he was eventually replaced by the Conservative Brian Mulroney. In 1987, Mulroney considerably increased immigration:

    A symbolic turning point was 1987. This was the year when the Progressive Conservative government of Brian Mulroney started to increase the numbers of immigrants admitted, and kept right on increasing them through the subsequent 1990-1992 recession abandoning the previous tap-on, tap-off policy whereby the number of immigrants admitted was cut back during recessions, when the economy was unable to absorb them.

    https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/mawkish-view-immigration-overlooks-facts

    Moral of the story: Immigration policy will not substantially change if we replace a Liberal government with a Conservative government. The current policy is the outcome of a bipartisan consensus.

    • Replies: @Jake
    'Conservatives' in CA in 1962 embraced globalist people policy because that is what the 'Conservatives' in the UK did, most importantly in regard to South Africa. UK 'Conservatives' are based first and foremost on the faith that the WASAP Elite must rule the world, which begins at hime, which means that all non-WASP cultures native to the British Isles must be stomped and staved into blind submission. And that means that Brit WASP 'conservatism' is erected upon total contempt, violent contempt, culturally genocidal contempt, for the vast majority of whites.

    All such basic foundations of a culture requite a good deal of time to work through issues to understand the culture's prime directive and then get on to the business of fulfilling it.
    , @anon19
    I agree there is a bipartisan consensus among the corrupt and degenerate elites but the rest of what you say is basically incorrect. The changes introduced by Diefenbaker in 1962 were actually very modest. He opened up Canada to a small amount of immigration from the Commonwealth, but Canada remained heavily European in its immigration pool. The REAL CHANGES occurred in 1967 when Pearson and Kent introduced the points system and closed down immigration offices across Europe and opened them everywhere throughout the third world. 1967 is the TRUE turning point in Canadian immigration. Trudeau was only too happy to carry out the policy since watering down the Anglos made it easier for him to impose his bilingual agenda on the country.

    "The slection of immigrants on the basis of ethnicity became difficult to justify".

    It shouldn't have. Immigration is a privilege, not a right, and it makes no sense to create an ethnic minority needlessly.
  37. @Daniel H
    >>“We are trying to attract the best talent in the world,” she said.

    Cucks love this idea, that the west should roam the world and hoover up the best and brightest from each and every country, and they think (correctly) that they can pull one over on the people with this appeal. I ask, though, how less disastrous is it to be replaced by smart browns/yellows/blacks than by stupid ones?

    Cucks love this idea, that the west should roam the world and hoover up the best and brightest from each and every country

    I would think this qualifies as an act of war. Let’s call it such.

    A U.N. resolution calling on us to stop would at least embarrass them.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Reg, why do Turd-World bureaucrats try to get UN jobs? So they can go to NYC. This is one area where they won't screw over their countrymen.
  38. Anonymous[294] • Disclaimer says:

    ‘We are a welcoming society’ and ‘we are trying to attract the very best talent in the world’.

    Well, obviously you couldn’t give a shit about ‘welcoming’ the ‘untalented’ portion of the world’s population, the six billion or so with IQs below 110 or whatever you ajudge to be your threshold for ‘talent’. As far as you are concerned they can stay behind and starve in their own misery.

  39. Anonymous[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon19
    Quebec and French-Canadians generally, are very largely to blame for Canada's immigration disaster. HOW SO? Quebec voted for and through its very highly cohesive vote, kept the federal Liberal party in power for many, many, many decades.


    It was the Liberal party, especially under globalist ("it doesn't matter where the immigrants come from".) Pierre Trudeau who opened Canada's doors to the (third) world.

    Quebec supported the Liberals. Quebec KEPT them in power. It was the Liberals who decided to flood Canada with non-whites. If Quebec had been smart it would have supported an immigration restrictionist party. Because the vast majority of immigrants to Canada learn English, not "Joual" (the crap they call "French" in Quebec.) In 1867 Quebec had 36% of the seats in the house of commons, now just 23% and sinking fast. Without immigration Quebec would have a much higher share of Canada's population. Yet they chose to support an open doors immigration party. They suceeded in watering down English Canada but at the cost of marginalizing themselves.

    If they’re a third or less of the population how could they have imposed anything on the country? Anglos need to fix the problem with their own people instead of blaming the French.

    • Replies: @Brobert
    I see you don't know your Canadian politics. At some point this century, the last shred of this country will be sold off to a Chinese transexual and the only debate among old stock citizens will be about whether this was a plot by the dastardly frenchies to destroy anglo Canada or if it was the work of the evil anglos who did it to eradicate french canadians.
    , @Cagey Beast
    I think we need to check to see what was happening in other countries to judge how much we can blame on Quebec, Pierre Trudeau or Mulroney. It's much harder to blame one region or faction in our home country if we see Australia, West Germany, France, the UK and US running quite similar plays back in the Seventies and Eighties.
    , @anon19
    Two reasons.

    1) The French-Canadian vote was/is EXTREMELY COHESIVE. The anglophone population is not.

    2) The Liberals have always pursued a strategy of "Unite the French and divide the English." They have it down to a science. May i suggest you read the book THE PATRIOT GAME by Peter Brimlow. Another good book is FRENCH POWER.
  40. @Brobert
    The intransigence of immigrationists on those bills is almost counter-productive. I suppose they thought total victory had been achieved and getting any kind of push back is impairing they ability to think straight.

    Because, in the long run, those are little more than symbolic gestures. Okay cops and teachers won't be allowed to wear religious symbols for a while, but after another decade or two of mass immigration (and premier Legault is absolutely fine with that—our God, the economy, demands it), another decade or two of French Canadian boomers dying off and the liberal party will be back in power with enough backing to rescind the law. Sort of like how forcing immigrant children to go to french language schools didn't make them "quebecois francophones" in any meaningful way, but did convince a sizable portion of the population that the assimilation problem was solved.

    Because, in the long run, those are little more than symbolic gestures. Okay cops and teachers won’t be allowed to wear religious symbols for a while, but after another decade or two of mass immigration (and premier Legault is absolutely fine with that—our God, the economy, demands it), another decade or two of French Canadian boomers dying off and the liberal party will be back in power with enough backing to rescind the law.

    Exactly. I was going to say that this is just death via the mail train, rather than the express.

    Immigration–truly foreign immigration from another race or culture–when you have sub-replacement fertility is just population replacement.

    This “insight” doesn’t tax my analytic abilities (even age eroded). This is literally 5th grade math. How we can have our “leaders” blathering on while failing to grasp this incredibly obvious fact is beyond me. At least the Democrat–or Canadian Liberal Party–leaders, i can understand. The smarter Chuck Schummer types do grasp it perfectly well, they are just genocidally evil.

    But what of these so-called “conservative” “leaders”. What about a supposed “nationalist” leader like Legault? This is his big win–“let’s die slower.”?

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Immigration–truly foreign immigration from another race or culture–when you have sub-replacement fertility is just population replacement.
     
    Constant immigration means population replacement even when the indigenous population's fertility is at replacement. That is the unyielding math of situation.
  41. @Arclight
    I've thought in the past that at some point I need to figure out how to emigrate to New Zealand or something, but it seems to me Quebec could attract a lot of residents and money by reaching out to disaffected Americans. I'd trade learning to use Quebecois French to communicate for a trans-Pacific journey, although NZ probably still wins based on its climate.

    I have heard some negative feedback about New Z. Ecological preservation is a myth–the dairy industry is careless, and contaminates the water often.
    Building construction is shoddy, and work ethic can be lousy.
    dont over commit –temp move first.

  42. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "18,000 hopeful Canadians "

    Meaning, 18,000 coolies who aren't actually Canadians at all.

    India’s population to surpass China’s in 6yrs, nearly 10 billion total on Earth by 2050 – UN

    A newly released report by the HOPEFUL CANADIAN Division of the UN Department of Economic and Social Affairs (DESA) titled ‘The World HOPEFUL CANADIAN Prospects 2019: Highlights’ estimates that a mind-boggling 9.7 billion HOPEFUL CANADIANS will inhabit the Earth by 2050, an increase of two billion from now.

    Nine countries are projected to be responsible for over the half of that surge. Leading the way is India, which is projected to add 273 million to its already massive 1.37 billion HOPEFUL CANADIANS and overtake China, whose HOPEFUL CANADIANS are expected to shrink by 31.4 million between 2019 and 2050.

    Runner-up Nigeria is not lagging far behind, and is expected to add 200 million HOPEFUL CANADIANS by 2050 [stats probably vague]. Pakistan, Ethiopia, Tanzania, Indonesia, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Egypt, and the US are the other seven countries that will be driving the world HOPEFUL CANADIANS’ growth in the next 30 years, according to the report.

    But the biggest jump in HOPEFUL CANADIAN size will happen in sub-Saharan Africa, where it will grow two-fold by 2050, a development that might further strain the fragile social systems of the countries.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    LOL. Well done, El Dato!

    (Though if truth be told most of them are actually HOPEFUL AMERICANS and only end up as HOPEFUL CANADIANS when that's the easier route.)
  43. @Mr. Blank
    I’m American, so Canadian issues are largely opaque to me. However, I’ve always tended to view Quebec with a sort of benign contempt — perhaps it’s a prejudice I’ve unconsciously picked up from Anglophone Canadians. I’ve always tended to think of Quebec as a bunch of dirty, smelly, snobby Frenchmen all huddled together in a handful of gorgeous cities where the architecture is awesome and the winters are brutally cold.

    Maybe I’ve been too hasty in my judgement. This post makes me think I should give them a second look...

    I’ve always tended to think of Quebec as a bunch of dirty, smelly, snobby Frenchmen

    Hardly. Québécois are culturally more like Appalachian rednecks than Parisians, except they don’t speak English. It’s still a very rural culture where people enjoy hunting, snowmobiling, drinking beer and playing ice hockey. The main differences between Quebec and Red State Americans are a) Québécois are much better cooks (a benefit of being French) and b) they are mostly post-Catholic secularists, like a lot of Europeans, the Americanist religious heresies never took hold up there.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Whose women look better? Southern or Quebecois?
    , @Jake
    Your analogy of Quebecois to Appalachian hillbillies and other middle American rednecks is spot on.

    If the people of Quebec were to adopt 'Americanist religious heresies' then they would be adopting heresies that come straight from the Judaizing heresies of the English Reformation, most specifically the Anglo-Saxon Puritans. And that lies in the very heart of the problem.

    Quebecois must cast aside secularism for Traditional Catholicism - not the chicken excrement that is Vatican II - in order to survive as a distinct people and rule themselves.
    , @Cagey Beast
    Hardly. Québécois are culturally more like Appalachian rednecks than Parisians, except they don’t speak English. It’s still a very rural culture where people enjoy hunting, snowmobiling, drinking beer and playing ice hockey.

    True. You reminded me of an old cartoon broadcast on Radio-Canada a decade ago. Her'e the background to it:


    What we can learn from Hérouxville, the Quebec town that became shorthand for intolerance
    Hérouxville is a hamlet off a little-travelled highway in central Quebec and, for the past ten years, shorthand for the province's difficulties with diversity.

    At a town council meeting on this day in 2007, councillors unanimously adopted a code of conduct for its nonexistent immigrant population.

    The code included warning immigrants against stoning and burning women. It included, too, an explanation of the importance of Christmas trees.
     

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/herouxville-quebec-reasonable-accommodation-1.3950390

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUzY7tNEFg0

    - It starts with an intro that gives a mild scolding to Hérouxville and then we're off to the races.
    - The town's sign says "1,300 inhabitants. Real inhabitants" [Habitants, ie. "settlers" is another name for old stock Quebecers.]
    - The chorus is "hang on, goddamn it, we don't do accommodation"
    - A Sikh wants to go into a school with a dagger
    - A Muslim wants to buy firewood. The mayor doesn't want to sell it to him because he doesn't want him to use it to burn his wife to death
    - An Hasidic Jew tells him he doesn't want to eat pork. The sign on the wall says "pork. not expensive" but it's misspelled to make a pun on the French word for "kosher".
    - A group of outsiders: "a Buddhist, a Hebrew, a Mormon, a [?], a Baptist and the whole gang" arrive.
    - The mayor asks what the heck they want. "Are you kidding? We don't want to celebrate Christmas"
    - Lyrics: "hang on, goddamn it, we don't do accommodation. Celebrate Christmas like the rest of us with the little Jesus, presents and a Christmas tree".
    - The mayor ends with "don't mind them!"

    , @Truth
    I would liken the Montreal contingent as more like Italians from New Jersey, with a lot less warmth. Northern Quebecois, you are correct, but more like hillbillies (mid-Americans) then southern rednecks.
  44. @Charles Erwin Wilson 3
    Wow! At first I thought Max Chaudhary is advocating common sense! The diverse get unwoke! But then

    "It is a reality that there are too many people immigrating to the urban centres of Quebec so it does make logical common sense for the government to try to incentivize the candidates to go to rural parts of Quebec, assuming there is an economic need,” he added.
     
    so maybe not.

    It is safe to assume that there is NO economic need for them in rural parts of Quebec.

    Define “rural”. Look how cities of 50,000 become “small towns” when it’s convenient for The Narrative.

  45. @Cagey Beast
    I moved to a Maritime province about a year ago and it's a lot like moving to an English speaking version of Quebec. I have my White ethnostate, my Whitemanistan right here already. Nothing is guaranteed in this life but I feel like I've bought back decades on the doomsday clock.

    We've even got this jazzy flag and coat of arms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Nova_Scotia

    And its own version of Sydney, but without gang violence and drive-by shootings?

  46. @Anon
    China , India, Russia, India, Korea(s), Indonesia, and the "Stans" all dont seem to have this problem of would be applicants from all over the world wanting to move there.

    Whats their secret?

    Their media is on the side of their peoples. Ours is not. No sob stories. No intelligentsia scolding from academia.

    Dont pretend to know how well this is gonna go over the next 40 years. We dont know. Nobody does. It hasnt been done before on this scale with establishment approval.

    But, muh freedom of the press!

  47. @Reg Cæsar

    Cucks love this idea, that the west should roam the world and hoover up the best and brightest from each and every country
     
    I would think this qualifies as an act of war. Let's call it such.

    A U.N. resolution calling on us to stop would at least embarrass them.

    Reg, why do Turd-World bureaucrats try to get UN jobs? So they can go to NYC. This is one area where they won’t screw over their countrymen.

  48. Anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    Because, in the long run, those are little more than symbolic gestures. Okay cops and teachers won’t be allowed to wear religious symbols for a while, but after another decade or two of mass immigration (and premier Legault is absolutely fine with that—our God, the economy, demands it), another decade or two of French Canadian boomers dying off and the liberal party will be back in power with enough backing to rescind the law.
     
    Exactly. I was going to say that this is just death via the mail train, rather than the express.

    Immigration--truly foreign immigration from another race or culture--when you have sub-replacement fertility is just population replacement.

    This "insight" doesn't tax my analytic abilities (even age eroded). This is literally 5th grade math. How we can have our "leaders" blathering on while failing to grasp this incredibly obvious fact is beyond me. At least the Democrat--or Canadian Liberal Party--leaders, i can understand. The smarter Chuck Schummer types do grasp it perfectly well, they are just genocidally evil.

    But what of these so-called "conservative" "leaders". What about a supposed "nationalist" leader like Legault? This is his big win--"let's die slower."?

    Immigration–truly foreign immigration from another race or culture–when you have sub-replacement fertility is just population replacement.

    Constant immigration means population replacement even when the indigenous population’s fertility is at replacement. That is the unyielding math of situation.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad


    Immigration–truly foreign immigration from another race or culture–when you have sub-replacement fertility is just population replacement.
     
    Constant immigration means population replacement even when the indigenous population’s fertility is at replacement. That is the unyielding math of situation.
     
    Exactly. I was pointing out what is now *glaringly* obvious with sub-replacement fertility in the West.

    But "immigration" itself--the current post-modern conception--is just a mathematical bogus idea.

    What we actually had in the Americas was conquest. And "immigration" was simply the idea of allowing more white people--same race and culture (Western Christendom)--to come and help complete the conquest. By about 1890 the Native Indians had been thoroughly subdued, all the territory settled, railroads stretching across the nation--the frontier was essentially closed. To the extent additional people were ever needed at all--just to speed things up--they weren't needed anymore.

    Basically the Jewish "nation of immigrants" ideology has been a terrific mind virus--ideological coup--against white people. First simply an ideology of you-must-let-me-in penetration. But fleshing out into a "multicultural" anti-majoritarian ideology of balkanization and destruction of cohesive white nations.

    Basic math/common sense--continual immigration is the replacement of your population, your people, with foreigners.
  49. Meanwhile in DC, Europe’s most successful immigration restrictionist rolls into town and the hysterical left doesn’t even notice.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-washington-italys-salvini-touts-common-cause-with-trump-and-israel/

    Salvini is stealthier than a WWII era Italian frogman.

  50. Quebec has a problem of creeping Anglophone encroachment in the major cities. Since French already deters somewhat the supposedly dynamic ever striving South Asians and Chinese these additional laws will generally send a nice negative signal to Muslims in general and any deterrence to immigration deters the strong pioneering immigrants.

    Like with Denmark and Sweden, you don’t have to outrun the lion, just outrun the other guy. (Anglo-Canada) Since contra to economist drivel, immigration doesn’t seek out virgin opportunities or alien places, it seeks out the already established diaspora or societies already terraformed economically into low wage Dubais where they go into whatever jobs their co-ethnics do and do them the exact same way. (Why this high human capital never thrives in high wage egalitarian setups where they have to compete with natives is still yet a mystery)

    Contra the ‘immigration is fine so long as they’re white’ nonsense, Quebec has such a good conservation of ingroupness due to a highly constrained founding period of it’s population base with little additional immigration since. Quebecois are not white people who speak French on the North American continent, they are Quebecois. They are a defined ethnicity like Canadians used to be before becoming white people who speak English in North America and aren’t Americans. Tie this in with heightened sense of group identity from being minorities and it’s not surprising.

    • Replies: @Anon
    The Chinese and Indians settle in Anglo neighborhoods in Quebec. So as Anglo encroachment increases, expect more to settle down.

    Montreal has a huge number of Anglo neighborhoods.
  51. The “values test” I’m sure will make the immigrants’ culture look appealing by comparison.

  52. Due to an organic founding from a small group disproportionately from same few regions of France along with existing as an annexed minority, the Quebecois have maintained a conservation of ingroupness highly useful in the current times to weather the current storm of the internet and cheap international flights.

    By contrast Toronto and Vancouver has been terraformed into hives of IKEA Humans or Starbucks-Canadians. I love this Jacobite piece about ‘IKEA Humans’.
    https://jacobitemag.com/2017/09/13/the-ikea-humans-the-social-base-of-contemporary-liberalism/

    Rather, they have no concept of foreignness at all

    More fundamentally, Jennifer and Jason are untraceable, a “composite material” made from numberless scraps and pieces. They have a long catalog of home towns, and their accents are NPR neutral. They can probably rattle off the various nationalities in their family trees — Dutch, Norwegian, Greek, and Jewish, maybe some Venezuelan or Honduran for a little color. From these backgrounds they retain no more than a humorous word or phrase, a recipe, or an Ellis Island anecdote, if that. They grew up amidst a scramble of white-collar professionals and went to college with a scramble of white-collar professionals’ kids. Their values are defined mainly by mass media, their tastes adorably quirky but never straying too far from their peers’, and like the IKEA furniture that they buy in boxes, they too cut themselves into manageable, packaged pieces and market themselves online. They are probably “spiritual but not religious.” They have no pattern or model of life that bears any relation to the past before the internet. For all intents and purposes, they sprang up de novo in the modern city. Whereas the Veneerings’ high fashion covered over an essential vulgarity, Jennifer’s and Jason’s urbane style masks a hollowness.

    For Jennifer and Jason, cuisines, musical styles, meditative practices, and other long-developed customs are not threads in a comprehensive or enduring way of life, but accessories like cheap sunglasses, to be casually picked up and discarded from day to day. Unmoored, undefined, and unaware of any other way of being, Jennifer and Jason are no one. They are the living equivalents of the particle board that makes up the IKEA dressers and IKEA nightstands next to their IKEA beds. In short, they are IKEA humans.

    If one is not attached to a way of life structured by inherited values and customs, then one is unlikely to be attached to anything at all. Jennifer and Jason illustrate this: life choices follow arbitrary taste, friends come and go, ties with family are thin, and superficial interactions (largely online) with peers fill the gap.

    The presence of such ‘hodge-podges’ of new immigrants prevents going back to anything normal. Very sad, Canada was a very cool country with a very cool people.

  53. @Peter Akuleyev
    I’ve always tended to think of Quebec as a bunch of dirty, smelly, snobby Frenchmen

    Hardly. Québécois are culturally more like Appalachian rednecks than Parisians, except they don’t speak English. It’s still a very rural culture where people enjoy hunting, snowmobiling, drinking beer and playing ice hockey. The main differences between Quebec and Red State Americans are a) Québécois are much better cooks (a benefit of being French) and b) they are mostly post-Catholic secularists, like a lot of Europeans, the Americanist religious heresies never took hold up there.

    Whose women look better? Southern or Quebecois?

    • Replies: @AP
    Quebec girls are a lot thinner.
  54. @Altai
    Quebec has a problem of creeping Anglophone encroachment in the major cities. Since French already deters somewhat the supposedly dynamic ever striving South Asians and Chinese these additional laws will generally send a nice negative signal to Muslims in general and any deterrence to immigration deters the strong pioneering immigrants.

    Like with Denmark and Sweden, you don't have to outrun the lion, just outrun the other guy. (Anglo-Canada) Since contra to economist drivel, immigration doesn't seek out virgin opportunities or alien places, it seeks out the already established diaspora or societies already terraformed economically into low wage Dubais where they go into whatever jobs their co-ethnics do and do them the exact same way. (Why this high human capital never thrives in high wage egalitarian setups where they have to compete with natives is still yet a mystery)

    Contra the 'immigration is fine so long as they're white' nonsense, Quebec has such a good conservation of ingroupness due to a highly constrained founding period of it's population base with little additional immigration since. Quebecois are not white people who speak French on the North American continent, they are Quebecois. They are a defined ethnicity like Canadians used to be before becoming white people who speak English in North America and aren't Americans. Tie this in with heightened sense of group identity from being minorities and it's not surprising.

    The Chinese and Indians settle in Anglo neighborhoods in Quebec. So as Anglo encroachment increases, expect more to settle down.

    Montreal has a huge number of Anglo neighborhoods.

  55. The Calgary-Edmonton corridor is just as bad these days. The whole place has abandoned traditional Albertan culture and embraced IKEA/Globohomo. No different from Vancouver or Toronto.

  56. This is a big step. Historically, Quebec “looked the other way” on immigration as a way to put more francophones in the country. Bolstering French was the Quebec goal.
    Now, I think they just see the writing on the wall. There legitimately are some French speaking Algerian doctors, but there have got to be 100 Near-Native English speaking Sub-Con doctors for every one of them.
    Also, in the late 60’s French just had a broader footprint. There were oceans of administrative tier South East Asians, as an example, who were fluent in French. How many bright Viets speak French in 2019? None?
    This is them switching to defensive posturing as French loses global standing.

    • Agree: Triumph104
  57. @Cagey Beast
    Here's the Premier (aks Prime Minister, aka Governor) of Quebec speaking to the press after the law was passed. I bookmarked it yesterday just because I found the staffer behind him in the saffron blazer to be kind of cute, what with all the smiling and winking and stuff:

    https://twitter.com/RadioCanadaInfo/status/1140273389912887296

    She is a tranny.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    If you mean she's a Transalpine Gaul, I suppose you're correct.
  58. @Reg Cæsar
    How is the Gaelic language faring there?

    I haven’t had a look around Cape Breton myself but I’ve heard it’s doing alright:

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    Home of one of my favorite fiddlers:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzP_kIXsuvA

    And a hearty thanks to the people of Nova Scotia for the Christmas tree they send us every year!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Christmas_Tree
  59. Quebec must continue that path of opposition to immigration (save to peoples descended from French Canadians, and move to secede. And then in order for its people to survive not merely to rule themselves but to survive as cultural determinants, Quebec must rediscover and embrace Traditional Catholicism.

    Everything else is at best delaying the inevitable. And the inevitable is that London cares about Quebecois as much as London – meaning Brit WASP Elites – by the early 1960s cared about white South Africans, and that Canadian WASP Elites always ape both Brit WASP Elites and Yank WASP Elites (invariably grumbling about the latter and denying they do so).

    And the mass of whites across Anglophone Canada? They are seen by the Canadian WASP Elites the way that Brit WASP Elites in, say, 1790 saw especially the Irish and the Scottish Highlanders: trash to be used as much as possible and then disbursed, scattered across the globe, so they their local cultures could never again say no to the Brit WASP Elite.

    • Replies: @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    ...Quebec must rediscover and embrace Traditional Catholicism.
     
    Jesus founded His Church to protect his sheep against the snares of the devil and the devil's spiritual children for generations to come as He is quoted describing them at John 8:44.

    Nothing's changed in two thousand years and nothing will until He returns. The devil's children have no hope of escaping their own evil and their spiritual father's ensnarement unless they embrace the Divinity of Jesus.
  60. @Cagey Beast
    Yes, I think they have a far better chance than we do right now. Along with what you mentioned, I'd add that Quebecers (and other Francophone communities in the Maritimes, Manitoba and Ontario) have a crucial advantage over us Anglos: they have a professional managerial class that fights for them.

    They have politicians, journalists, lawyers and professors arguing the case for their communities while we have grinning or scolding fools just bursting with pride for constantly selling us out. We in the Anglosphere are still stuck acting like grand and generous 1960's liberals, no matter how much it hurts us. We need to wise up immediately and have a look at what other people are doing; from Quebec to Hungary, to Russia and Italy.

    This is certainly surprising and heartening news. Sometime ago, however, I read a news article featuring the smiling features of New Brunswick’s premier, assuring readers of the absolute necessity of stuffing job-hungry Third Worlders into the province. He was Anglo, by the way. Is New Brunswick more cucked than the other Maritimes?

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    No people seem about the same. I saw the main Halifax newspaper pushing immigration too. Such are the times in which we live.
  61. @Peter Frost
    It was the Liberal party, especially under globalist (“it doesn’t matter where the immigrants come from”.) Pierre Trudeau who opened Canada’s doors to the (third) world.

    A lot of Canadians believe this, but it's not true. The doors were opened by the Conservative government of John Diefenbaker in 1962:


    When the Progressive Conservatives came to power in 1957, they began a thorough review of immigration policy, intending to make extensive modifications to the existing act. Following the Second World War and the Holocaust, there was increased awareness and sensitivity to matters of racial discrimination. Prime Minister John Diefenbaker introduced the Bill of Rights in 1960, which rejected discrimination on the basis of race, colour, national origin, religion or sex. As such, the selection of immigrants on the basis of ethnicity and national origin became difficult to justify

     

    Diefenbaker could have made this change through a new immigration act, but he was afraid of not getting parliamentary approval:

    While the government originally intended to develop a new immigration act, this policy was introduced as a separate set of regulations. New regulations could be implemented quickly by the authority of cabinet whereas acts had to pass through various stages of approval in Parliament. By drafting these regulations, Fairclough likely introduced a more liberal policy than could have been achieved through a new immigration act.

     

    https://pier21.ca/research/immigration-history/immigration-regulations-order-in-council-pc-1962-86-1962

    When these changes were incorporated into the Immigration Act of 1967 (under the Liberal government of Lester Pearson), there was no criticism from the Conservative opposition. Pierre Elliot Trudeau took over the following year, but he made no further legislative changes. He simply carried out an immigration policy that was already in place.

    When Trudeau's long reign ended, he was eventually replaced by the Conservative Brian Mulroney. In 1987, Mulroney considerably increased immigration:


    A symbolic turning point was 1987. This was the year when the Progressive Conservative government of Brian Mulroney started to increase the numbers of immigrants admitted, and kept right on increasing them through the subsequent 1990-1992 recession abandoning the previous tap-on, tap-off policy whereby the number of immigrants admitted was cut back during recessions, when the economy was unable to absorb them.

     

    https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/mawkish-view-immigration-overlooks-facts

    Moral of the story: Immigration policy will not substantially change if we replace a Liberal government with a Conservative government. The current policy is the outcome of a bipartisan consensus.

    ‘Conservatives’ in CA in 1962 embraced globalist people policy because that is what the ‘Conservatives’ in the UK did, most importantly in regard to South Africa. UK ‘Conservatives’ are based first and foremost on the faith that the WASAP Elite must rule the world, which begins at hime, which means that all non-WASP cultures native to the British Isles must be stomped and staved into blind submission. And that means that Brit WASP ‘conservatism’ is erected upon total contempt, violent contempt, culturally genocidal contempt, for the vast majority of whites.

    All such basic foundations of a culture requite a good deal of time to work through issues to understand the culture’s prime directive and then get on to the business of fulfilling it.

    • Replies: @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    ...WASP ‘conservatism’ is erected upon total contempt, violent contempt, culturally genocidal contempt, for the vast majority of whites.
     
    "(T)he vast majority of whites" of Christendom having been Roman Catholic.
  62. @Cagey Beast
    Here's the Premier (aks Prime Minister, aka Governor) of Quebec speaking to the press after the law was passed. I bookmarked it yesterday just because I found the staffer behind him in the saffron blazer to be kind of cute, what with all the smiling and winking and stuff:

    https://twitter.com/RadioCanadaInfo/status/1140273389912887296

    Around the 3:50 mark in the video, the Premier gets a question concerning the crucifix being moved from its place above the Speaker’s chair in the National Assembly,

    “Yes …. but it’s still a compromise. I personally would have preferred to keep it there but it was decided to make a compromise, to be consistent. The four parties were unanimously in favour of keeping the crucifix, to move it, in effect, to another location in the Blue Chamber. It’s now up to the Office of the National Assembly to decide where it is placed”

    His assistant says “in English now”, meaning it’s now the turn of Anglo journalists to ask questions but another reporter seems to ask a follow-up question about the crucifix.

    “It’s a question … as I see it, it’s a part of our heritage. But I think everyone needs to make a compromise. We made a compromise. Everyone should make a compromise”.

    Here’s a Montreal Gazette article on it and other crucifixes on public property around Quebec:

    The crucifix in Quebec’s National Assembly: Why its symbolism matters
    Is the legislature’s cross a relic of Quebec’s Catholic past? Ultimately, what place does it have in a secular society?
    ANDY RIGA Updated: February 7, 2019
    [….]
    After a complaint from the public in 2017, Saint-Sacrament hospital in Quebec City removed a crucifix but quickly put it back up after a dressing down by the health minister, a violent threat and a 13,000-name petition.

    https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/the-crucifix-in-quebecs-national-assembly-why-its-symbolism-matters

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    I should have translated it as: "The four parties were unanimously in favour of removing the crucifix, to move it, in effect, to another location in the Blue Chamber". They're removing it from above the Speaker's chair but keeping it in the same parliamentary chamber.
  63. @Peter Akuleyev
    I’ve always tended to think of Quebec as a bunch of dirty, smelly, snobby Frenchmen

    Hardly. Québécois are culturally more like Appalachian rednecks than Parisians, except they don’t speak English. It’s still a very rural culture where people enjoy hunting, snowmobiling, drinking beer and playing ice hockey. The main differences between Quebec and Red State Americans are a) Québécois are much better cooks (a benefit of being French) and b) they are mostly post-Catholic secularists, like a lot of Europeans, the Americanist religious heresies never took hold up there.

    Your analogy of Quebecois to Appalachian hillbillies and other middle American rednecks is spot on.

    If the people of Quebec were to adopt ‘Americanist religious heresies’ then they would be adopting heresies that come straight from the Judaizing heresies of the English Reformation, most specifically the Anglo-Saxon Puritans. And that lies in the very heart of the problem.

    Quebecois must cast aside secularism for Traditional Catholicism – not the chicken excrement that is Vatican II – in order to survive as a distinct people and rule themselves.

    • Replies: @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    ...the Judaizing heresies of the English Reformation, most specifically the Anglo-Saxon Puritan(ism)...lies in the very heart of the problem.
     
    Six centuries of internal decay in The West distilled to a single phrase.
  64. @RVBlake
    This is certainly surprising and heartening news. Sometime ago, however, I read a news article featuring the smiling features of New Brunswick's premier, assuring readers of the absolute necessity of stuffing job-hungry Third Worlders into the province. He was Anglo, by the way. Is New Brunswick more cucked than the other Maritimes?

    No people seem about the same. I saw the main Halifax newspaper pushing immigration too. Such are the times in which we live.

    • Replies: @Jake
    Who owns the main newspaper in Halifax? And who began, who created and pushed, globalism?
    , @RVBlake
    That's good news.
  65. @Jake
    Quebec must continue that path of opposition to immigration (save to peoples descended from French Canadians, and move to secede. And then in order for its people to survive not merely to rule themselves but to survive as cultural determinants, Quebec must rediscover and embrace Traditional Catholicism.

    Everything else is at best delaying the inevitable. And the inevitable is that London cares about Quebecois as much as London - meaning Brit WASP Elites - by the early 1960s cared about white South Africans, and that Canadian WASP Elites always ape both Brit WASP Elites and Yank WASP Elites (invariably grumbling about the latter and denying they do so).

    And the mass of whites across Anglophone Canada? They are seen by the Canadian WASP Elites the way that Brit WASP Elites in, say, 1790 saw especially the Irish and the Scottish Highlanders: trash to be used as much as possible and then disbursed, scattered across the globe, so they their local cultures could never again say no to the Brit WASP Elite.

    …Quebec must rediscover and embrace Traditional Catholicism.

    Jesus founded His Church to protect his sheep against the snares of the devil and the devil’s spiritual children for generations to come as He is quoted describing them at John 8:44.

    Nothing’s changed in two thousand years and nothing will until He returns. The devil’s children have no hope of escaping their own evil and their spiritual father’s ensnarement unless they embrace the Divinity of Jesus.

  66. @Cagey Beast
    I haven't had a look around Cape Breton myself but I've heard it's doing alright:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDQt9x2sgaA

    Home of one of my favorite fiddlers:

    And a hearty thanks to the people of Nova Scotia for the Christmas tree they send us every year!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Christmas_Tree

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    Natalie MacMaster and the Bara MacNeils!

    Good fun!
  67. @anon19
    Quebec and French-Canadians generally, are very largely to blame for Canada's immigration disaster. HOW SO? Quebec voted for and through its very highly cohesive vote, kept the federal Liberal party in power for many, many, many decades.


    It was the Liberal party, especially under globalist ("it doesn't matter where the immigrants come from".) Pierre Trudeau who opened Canada's doors to the (third) world.

    Quebec supported the Liberals. Quebec KEPT them in power. It was the Liberals who decided to flood Canada with non-whites. If Quebec had been smart it would have supported an immigration restrictionist party. Because the vast majority of immigrants to Canada learn English, not "Joual" (the crap they call "French" in Quebec.) In 1867 Quebec had 36% of the seats in the house of commons, now just 23% and sinking fast. Without immigration Quebec would have a much higher share of Canada's population. Yet they chose to support an open doors immigration party. They suceeded in watering down English Canada but at the cost of marginalizing themselves.

    The vomit of Peter Brimelow and his ilk regurgitated. If only WASP Elites ruled the world, then what a paradise it would be, because WASP Elites have never acted to harm any non-WASP whites and their cultures, nor have WASPs ever used blacks and Jews and Mohammedans and other non-whites and non-Christians as weapons and tools against the white Christians that WASPs hate. WASPs such the most pure Brit kind would never, under any circumstances, bash whites to create something like black ruled South Africa or Zimbabwe.

    So being white and trusting WASPs and marching to tune of WASP Elites is the only logical choice.

    Right?

    • Replies: @anon19
    How you got any of this or reach these ludicrous conclusions from my post is beyond me sport.
  68. @Cagey Beast
    No people seem about the same. I saw the main Halifax newspaper pushing immigration too. Such are the times in which we live.

    Who owns the main newspaper in Halifax? And who began, who created and pushed, globalism?

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    I just looked it up and it turns out it's owned by a prominent conservative, Nova Scotian family*. I'm a little surprised just because it contains so much content from the Postmedia Group.

    Globalism comes out of the mercantile and banking traditions of us Anglosphericals and the Dutch. The Jews came to play a greater and greater role in this system as the years rolled on. Now we're here trying to figure out how to tame globalism or at least survive it.

    * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SaltWire_Network
  69. @Mr. Blank
    I’m American, so Canadian issues are largely opaque to me. However, I’ve always tended to view Quebec with a sort of benign contempt — perhaps it’s a prejudice I’ve unconsciously picked up from Anglophone Canadians. I’ve always tended to think of Quebec as a bunch of dirty, smelly, snobby Frenchmen all huddled together in a handful of gorgeous cities where the architecture is awesome and the winters are brutally cold.

    Maybe I’ve been too hasty in my judgement. This post makes me think I should give them a second look...

    Louisiana Cajuns are descended from French Canadians.

    • Replies: @RVBlake
    Yes, Acadians to be exact. One notable exception was Gen. Pierre-Gustave-Toutant Beauregard, descended from Quebecois, and the Confederate officer who oversaw the assault on Fort Sumter.
  70. @Jake
    Your analogy of Quebecois to Appalachian hillbillies and other middle American rednecks is spot on.

    If the people of Quebec were to adopt 'Americanist religious heresies' then they would be adopting heresies that come straight from the Judaizing heresies of the English Reformation, most specifically the Anglo-Saxon Puritans. And that lies in the very heart of the problem.

    Quebecois must cast aside secularism for Traditional Catholicism - not the chicken excrement that is Vatican II - in order to survive as a distinct people and rule themselves.

    …the Judaizing heresies of the English Reformation, most specifically the Anglo-Saxon Puritan(ism)…lies in the very heart of the problem.

    Six centuries of internal decay in The West distilled to a single phrase.

  71. @Peter Frost
    In Quebec, the elites are only one generation removed from everybody else. They don't feel different from most people, and they don't feel the same contempt for Jos and Johanne Bleau that elites elsewhere feel. There are private schools in Quebec, but most elite individuals still send their kids to the same schools and daycare centers as everyone else.

    So they tend to share the same concerns as everyone else. And if they don't, they soon get reminded by relatives and in-laws -- who are usually ordinary people. This is something that Quebecois celebrities sometimes complain about: if they act too special, they get reminded that they're not so special.

    The situation is similar to that of Eastern Europe, where the elites were eliminated by postwar socialist governments. The current elites are simply too new to engage in the sort of shenanigans that we see in much of the West. There's a lesson in this, but I'm afraid to say it.

    As old Karol Wojtyla used to say, “Be not afraid.”

  72. @Jake
    'Conservatives' in CA in 1962 embraced globalist people policy because that is what the 'Conservatives' in the UK did, most importantly in regard to South Africa. UK 'Conservatives' are based first and foremost on the faith that the WASAP Elite must rule the world, which begins at hime, which means that all non-WASP cultures native to the British Isles must be stomped and staved into blind submission. And that means that Brit WASP 'conservatism' is erected upon total contempt, violent contempt, culturally genocidal contempt, for the vast majority of whites.

    All such basic foundations of a culture requite a good deal of time to work through issues to understand the culture's prime directive and then get on to the business of fulfilling it.

    …WASP ‘conservatism’ is erected upon total contempt, violent contempt, culturally genocidal contempt, for the vast majority of whites.

    “(T)he vast majority of whites” of Christendom having been Roman Catholic.

  73. Anonymous[189] • Disclaimer says:

    Wasn’t there a controversy years ago when some U.S. presidential candidate insulted French-Americans up in some northeastern state? He used an offensive slang term for them, IIRC. The details escape me.

  74. @Cagey Beast
    No people seem about the same. I saw the main Halifax newspaper pushing immigration too. Such are the times in which we live.

    That’s good news.

  75. @Triumph104
    Louisiana Cajuns are descended from French Canadians.

    Yes, Acadians to be exact. One notable exception was Gen. Pierre-Gustave-Toutant Beauregard, descended from Quebecois, and the Confederate officer who oversaw the assault on Fort Sumter.

  76. @Arclight
    I've thought in the past that at some point I need to figure out how to emigrate to New Zealand or something, but it seems to me Quebec could attract a lot of residents and money by reaching out to disaffected Americans. I'd trade learning to use Quebecois French to communicate for a trans-Pacific journey, although NZ probably still wins based on its climate.

    They make it very hard to emigrate to New Zealand. I looked at what it would take to retire there. It takes an aggregate of 1 1/4 million, some of which must be invested, the rest in a rainy day fund. That is for just a temporary visa.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Seems sensible. Tiny island with limited resources and free from the conflicts associated with over population and foreign peoples with barbaric beliefs customs etc.
    , @peterike

    They make it very hard to emigrate to New Zealand.

     

    Do they? Then how does this happen:

    Just over 25 percent of New Zealand's population at the 2013 census was born overseas, up from 23 percent in 2006 and 20 percent in 2001
    , @Whiskey
    Not if you are Muslim or African. You get paid to come there. No place on earth wants White people and that goes double for White men. White men are despised and loathed all over the planet.

    Which is my point. Civ nat stuff has already failed. It been a failure for over a hundred years. And every place on the planet is White minority.

    Either Whites and especially White men are serfs or non Whites are. Domination or slavery are the only two choices.

    Look at NZ. The pm has gone full Muslim like a stereotype Eat Pray Love chick. White women will come around if every non White has to grovel. It's why Muslims and Africans swagger so much
  77. @Peter Akuleyev
    I’ve always tended to think of Quebec as a bunch of dirty, smelly, snobby Frenchmen

    Hardly. Québécois are culturally more like Appalachian rednecks than Parisians, except they don’t speak English. It’s still a very rural culture where people enjoy hunting, snowmobiling, drinking beer and playing ice hockey. The main differences between Quebec and Red State Americans are a) Québécois are much better cooks (a benefit of being French) and b) they are mostly post-Catholic secularists, like a lot of Europeans, the Americanist religious heresies never took hold up there.

    Hardly. Québécois are culturally more like Appalachian rednecks than Parisians, except they don’t speak English. It’s still a very rural culture where people enjoy hunting, snowmobiling, drinking beer and playing ice hockey.

    True. You reminded me of an old cartoon broadcast on Radio-Canada a decade ago. Her’e the background to it:

    What we can learn from Hérouxville, the Quebec town that became shorthand for intolerance
    Hérouxville is a hamlet off a little-travelled highway in central Quebec and, for the past ten years, shorthand for the province’s difficulties with diversity.

    At a town council meeting on this day in 2007, councillors unanimously adopted a code of conduct for its nonexistent immigrant population.

    The code included warning immigrants against stoning and burning women. It included, too, an explanation of the importance of Christmas trees.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/herouxville-quebec-reasonable-accommodation-1.3950390

    – It starts with an intro that gives a mild scolding to Hérouxville and then we’re off to the races.
    – The town’s sign says “1,300 inhabitants. Real inhabitants” [Habitants, ie. “settlers” is another name for old stock Quebecers.]
    – The chorus is “hang on, goddamn it, we don’t do accommodation”
    – A Sikh wants to go into a school with a dagger
    – A Muslim wants to buy firewood. The mayor doesn’t want to sell it to him because he doesn’t want him to use it to burn his wife to death
    – An Hasidic Jew tells him he doesn’t want to eat pork. The sign on the wall says “pork. not expensive” but it’s misspelled to make a pun on the French word for “kosher”.
    – A group of outsiders: “a Buddhist, a Hebrew, a Mormon, a [?], a Baptist and the whole gang” arrive.
    – The mayor asks what the heck they want. “Are you kidding? We don’t want to celebrate Christmas”
    – Lyrics: “hang on, goddamn it, we don’t do accommodation. Celebrate Christmas like the rest of us with the little Jesus, presents and a Christmas tree”.
    – The mayor ends with “don’t mind them!”

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    So basically this cartoon is telling us that Hérouxville is the coolest place on Earth.
    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    I'm not sure if I laughed harder when:

    Les Habitants ripped the hijab and turban off the Muslims, forcibly shaved the guy then slapped Montreal Canadiens hats on the couple!

    or

    Les Habitants pinned the Hasidic Jew to the ground and force fed him an entire package of bacon!

    Coolest place on Earth - CONFIRMED

  78. @istevefan
    Not to mention that by extracting their top talent, you are punishing the 99 percent or more who are left behind by reducing their chances at economic development and removing their community leaders.

    In the old days it was called the “Brian Drain “

  79. @istevefan

    , is extreme and undemocratic. …
     
    I thought passing legislation though an elected legislature was the epitome of democratic. In today's parlance, undemocratic means legislation I do not like.

    “We are trying to attract the best talent in the world,” she said.
     
    In other words you are a neo-colonialist trying to extract human resources from the developing world. Shame on you.

    Quebec’s contentious secularism bill banning religious symbols for teachers, police officers and other public servants in positions of authority was voted into law late Sunday.

    ...

    Liberal member Marc Tanguay said the changes would result in a “secularism police.”
     
    All my life the left has pushed secularism with their own version of the secularism police. These police have hounded schools over Christmas concerts and the like for years. These police are even trying to tear down a 40 foot cross in Maryland that was erected as a memorial to the locals who died in WW1.

    Yet now when secularism is directed towards non-Christians they have a problem. This just goes to show that the push for secularism was merely an attack on Christianity.

    Undemocratic is any legislation the globalists don’t pre-approve.

  80. @Cagey Beast
    Around the 3:50 mark in the video, the Premier gets a question concerning the crucifix being moved from its place above the Speaker's chair in the National Assembly,

    "Yes .... but it's still a compromise. I personally would have preferred to keep it there but it was decided to make a compromise, to be consistent. The four parties were unanimously in favour of keeping the crucifix, to move it, in effect, to another location in the Blue Chamber. It's now up to the Office of the National Assembly to decide where it is placed"

    His assistant says "in English now", meaning it's now the turn of Anglo journalists to ask questions but another reporter seems to ask a follow-up question about the crucifix.

    "It's a question ... as I see it, it's a part of our heritage. But I think everyone needs to make a compromise. We made a compromise. Everyone should make a compromise".

    https://postmediamontrealgazette2.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/que-secularism-20181009.jpg

    Here's a Montreal Gazette article on it and other crucifixes on public property around Quebec:


    The crucifix in Quebec's National Assembly: Why its symbolism matters
    Is the legislature's cross a relic of Quebec’s Catholic past? Ultimately, what place does it have in a secular society?
    ANDY RIGA Updated: February 7, 2019
    [....]
    After a complaint from the public in 2017, Saint-Sacrament hospital in Quebec City removed a crucifix but quickly put it back up after a dressing down by the health minister, a violent threat and a 13,000-name petition.
     
    https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/the-crucifix-in-quebecs-national-assembly-why-its-symbolism-matters

    I should have translated it as: “The four parties were unanimously in favour of removing the crucifix, to move it, in effect, to another location in the Blue Chamber”. They’re removing it from above the Speaker’s chair but keeping it in the same parliamentary chamber.

  81. @Jake
    Who owns the main newspaper in Halifax? And who began, who created and pushed, globalism?

    I just looked it up and it turns out it’s owned by a prominent conservative, Nova Scotian family*. I’m a little surprised just because it contains so much content from the Postmedia Group.

    Globalism comes out of the mercantile and banking traditions of us Anglosphericals and the Dutch. The Jews came to play a greater and greater role in this system as the years rolled on. Now we’re here trying to figure out how to tame globalism or at least survive it.

    * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SaltWire_Network

  82. @Father O'Hara
    She is a tranny.

    If you mean she’s a Transalpine Gaul, I suppose you’re correct.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    Why yes,that's exactly what I meant. A Transalpine Gaul...with a dick.
  83. Part of this is continuing harassment of Quebec’s committed Catholics. Not too pleasant. Quebec’s gone from one of the most culturally Catholic places on Earth to a public culture resembling Republican Spain.

    Current residents of Quebec need to have more children than they are having at present. About a 20% increase in live births annually might cover it.

    Two simple culture tests: require every person over the age of 14 on an immigration application pass a written and oral examination in the French language and (2) accept applications from those originating in problems countries only from married couples with children or from older married couples (with a dispensation granted to Egyptian Copts and other cultural minorities in such countries).

    The most important thing is to arrange commercial law, labor law, civil service recruitment, and welfare policies so that the reception of new immigrants influences them in salutary ways. To wit: one acquires access to common provision only incrementally; it should require about 12 years worth of f/t labor on the part of a head of household for he and his dependents to have full access to benefits; naturalization requires one be 25 years of age, have spent the majority of one’s natural life as a lawful resident of the territory, have passed a civics test given in French, and have issued a written and notarized statement renouncing one’s claims to citizenship in any other country; that select public sector positions (as well as the legal profession) are barred to resident aliens; that pubic sector recruitment and promotion be according to the results of competitive examinations; and that there be no anti-discrimination law binding on private parties – immigrants have to navigate Quebec society themselves without the courts and the legal profession intervening.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    for he and his dependents
     
    I'm shocked. You, of all commenters!
  84. I went to Montreal in the 1990s when it was easy to pass through the border.

    I was used to all the non-Whites in New York City and Philadelphia and Newark, New Jersey, and I was happy to see all the french people in Montreal.

    I thought this was a real European city full of Europeans and it was very nice. I remained mostly sober and I didn’t speak English too loud and I really loved all those French people.

    After I come to power in the American Empire, I will help the White Core Canadians remove and deport all of the non-Whites from Canada. Young White Core American and young White Core Canadians will really enjoy all the AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION that will come about when the foreigners and their spawn are removed from the USA and Canada. The greedy, human filth rat scum in the FIRE sector won’t like it, and they’ll call us racists, but that will be good because annoying accusations of racism by rancid globalizer Whites against other Whites will lead to the evil globalizer Whites being immediately deported to sub-Saharan Africa.

    Remember, millions of White globalizer scum in the USA will be forcibly deported to sub-Saharan Africa when the White Core American Patriots come to power.

    God Bless The French, Wherever They Live!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I went to Montreal in the 1990s when it was easy to pass through the border
     
    Do not go to Montreal at Columbus Day weekend. That's true Thanksgiving, and the last nice-weather holiday at the cabin or in the hometown. We made that mistake in 2007. The traffic jam we hit merely skirting the suburbs made us four hours late to Quebec City.
  85. @Anon
    Whose women look better? Southern or Quebecois?

    Quebec girls are a lot thinner.

  86. Anonymous[115] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cagey Beast
    Yes, I think they have a far better chance than we do right now. Along with what you mentioned, I'd add that Quebecers (and other Francophone communities in the Maritimes, Manitoba and Ontario) have a crucial advantage over us Anglos: they have a professional managerial class that fights for them.

    They have politicians, journalists, lawyers and professors arguing the case for their communities while we have grinning or scolding fools just bursting with pride for constantly selling us out. We in the Anglosphere are still stuck acting like grand and generous 1960's liberals, no matter how much it hurts us. We need to wise up immediately and have a look at what other people are doing; from Quebec to Hungary, to Russia and Italy.

    I was just in Budapest. The place is crawling with Vietnamese and Chinese to the point that I saw billboards in Vietnamese and signs wishing happy Chinese New Year. I was told that many of these are tourists but as they were attending primary schools and running dollar stores that seemed hard to believe. There were also African hustlers on many street corners trying to drum up business for guided tours of Hungary. This “Hungarian model” doesn’t seem like anything to aspire to.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Who do you recommend as a role model? Who do you think is doing it right? Feel free to include fictional places, like Wakanda or the Emerald City.
  87. @Brutusale
    Home of one of my favorite fiddlers:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzP_kIXsuvA

    And a hearty thanks to the people of Nova Scotia for the Christmas tree they send us every year!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Christmas_Tree

    Natalie MacMaster and the Bara MacNeils!

    Good fun!

  88. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail
    How is Quebec, a province, able to set its own immigration policy?

    U.S. states should consider following suit.

    This echoes the era where, in Canada, immigration was viewed as a simple policy matter. Each province decided the net cost benefits of permitting small groups to enter and settle in the area on a periodic basis or not.

    Not the current attempt to displace dispossess and ultimately subjugate the historic Canadian peoples via mass immigration. Literally dredging the slums of Asia, Africa, the Caribbean and Latin America then dumping them on the environment schools, roads, hospitals.

    # mass immigration

  89. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paleo Liberal
    They make it very hard to emigrate to New Zealand. I looked at what it would take to retire there. It takes an aggregate of 1 1/4 million, some of which must be invested, the rest in a rainy day fund. That is for just a temporary visa.

    Seems sensible. Tiny island with limited resources and free from the conflicts associated with over population and foreign peoples with barbaric beliefs customs etc.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Yes, good for New Zealand. One of the few western countries that doesn't have to worry about black rioters or Muslim bombers. Only madmen would try to change this.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Tiny island with limited resources and free from the conflicts associated with over population and foreign peoples with barbaric beliefs customs etc.
     
    New Zealand is hardly tiny or limited in resources. It's the size of Colorado with a similar population, and would stretch from Erie to Mobile, or Lake of the Woods to Lubbock.


    https://www.aboutnewzealand.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/NZ-size-Compared-to-USA-1024x791.png

    Wool doesn't make their top ten list of exports:


    Dairy, eggs, honey: US$10.2 billion (26.5% of total exports)
    Meat: $5.2 billion (13.5%)
    Wood: $3.6 billion (9.4%)
    Fruits, nuts: $2.2 billion (5.8%)
    Beverages, spirits, vinegar: $1.4 billion (3.5%)
    Cereal/milk preparations: $1.3 billion (3.3%)
    Fish: $1.1 billion (2.9%)
    Machinery including computers: $1 billion (2.7%)
    Aluminum: $850.9 million (2.2%)
    Miscellaneous food preparations: $842.9 million (2.2%)

    http://www.worldstopexports.com/new-zealands-top-10-exports/
     

    They used to export locally mined jade, until the Maoris seized a monopoly on it. There is a jade processing industry which had built up beforehand, which now survives by importing the raw jade. Kind of a coals-to-Newcastle situation.
  90. The reality is, Muslims and Hindus belong in Muslim and Hindu countries. Sorry. Just being an adult. Start packing.

  91. @Anonymous
    I was just in Budapest. The place is crawling with Vietnamese and Chinese to the point that I saw billboards in Vietnamese and signs wishing happy Chinese New Year. I was told that many of these are tourists but as they were attending primary schools and running dollar stores that seemed hard to believe. There were also African hustlers on many street corners trying to drum up business for guided tours of Hungary. This "Hungarian model" doesn't seem like anything to aspire to.

    Who do you recommend as a role model? Who do you think is doing it right? Feel free to include fictional places, like Wakanda or the Emerald City.

  92. @anon19
    Just a question. Why would preserving Gaelic in Nova Scotia be a good thing?

    Because the country’s name translates to “New Scotland?”

  93. @Charles Pewitt
    I went to Montreal in the 1990s when it was easy to pass through the border.

    I was used to all the non-Whites in New York City and Philadelphia and Newark, New Jersey, and I was happy to see all the french people in Montreal.

    I thought this was a real European city full of Europeans and it was very nice. I remained mostly sober and I didn't speak English too loud and I really loved all those French people.

    After I come to power in the American Empire, I will help the White Core Canadians remove and deport all of the non-Whites from Canada. Young White Core American and young White Core Canadians will really enjoy all the AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION that will come about when the foreigners and their spawn are removed from the USA and Canada. The greedy, human filth rat scum in the FIRE sector won't like it, and they'll call us racists, but that will be good because annoying accusations of racism by rancid globalizer Whites against other Whites will lead to the evil globalizer Whites being immediately deported to sub-Saharan Africa.

    Remember, millions of White globalizer scum in the USA will be forcibly deported to sub-Saharan Africa when the White Core American Patriots come to power.

    God Bless The French, Wherever They Live!

    I went to Montreal in the 1990s when it was easy to pass through the border

    Do not go to Montreal at Columbus Day weekend. That’s true Thanksgiving, and the last nice-weather holiday at the cabin or in the hometown. We made that mistake in 2007. The traffic jam we hit merely skirting the suburbs made us four hours late to Quebec City.

  94. @Peter Akuleyev
    I’ve always tended to think of Quebec as a bunch of dirty, smelly, snobby Frenchmen

    Hardly. Québécois are culturally more like Appalachian rednecks than Parisians, except they don’t speak English. It’s still a very rural culture where people enjoy hunting, snowmobiling, drinking beer and playing ice hockey. The main differences between Quebec and Red State Americans are a) Québécois are much better cooks (a benefit of being French) and b) they are mostly post-Catholic secularists, like a lot of Europeans, the Americanist religious heresies never took hold up there.

    I would liken the Montreal contingent as more like Italians from New Jersey, with a lot less warmth. Northern Quebecois, you are correct, but more like hillbillies (mid-Americans) then southern rednecks.

  95. @Art Deco
    Part of this is continuing harassment of Quebec's committed Catholics. Not too pleasant. Quebec's gone from one of the most culturally Catholic places on Earth to a public culture resembling Republican Spain.

    Current residents of Quebec need to have more children than they are having at present. About a 20% increase in live births annually might cover it.

    Two simple culture tests: require every person over the age of 14 on an immigration application pass a written and oral examination in the French language and (2) accept applications from those originating in problems countries only from married couples with children or from older married couples (with a dispensation granted to Egyptian Copts and other cultural minorities in such countries).

    The most important thing is to arrange commercial law, labor law, civil service recruitment, and welfare policies so that the reception of new immigrants influences them in salutary ways. To wit: one acquires access to common provision only incrementally; it should require about 12 years worth of f/t labor on the part of a head of household for he and his dependents to have full access to benefits; naturalization requires one be 25 years of age, have spent the majority of one's natural life as a lawful resident of the territory, have passed a civics test given in French, and have issued a written and notarized statement renouncing one's claims to citizenship in any other country; that select public sector positions (as well as the legal profession) are barred to resident aliens; that pubic sector recruitment and promotion be according to the results of competitive examinations; and that there be no anti-discrimination law binding on private parties - immigrants have to navigate Quebec society themselves without the courts and the legal profession intervening.

    for he and his dependents

    I’m shocked. You, of all commenters!

  96. Anonymous[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Seems sensible. Tiny island with limited resources and free from the conflicts associated with over population and foreign peoples with barbaric beliefs customs etc.

    Yes, good for New Zealand. One of the few western countries that doesn’t have to worry about black rioters or Muslim bombers. Only madmen would try to change this.

  97. @Charles Erwin Wilson 3
    Wow! At first I thought Max Chaudhary is advocating common sense! The diverse get unwoke! But then

    "It is a reality that there are too many people immigrating to the urban centres of Quebec so it does make logical common sense for the government to try to incentivize the candidates to go to rural parts of Quebec, assuming there is an economic need,” he added.
     
    so maybe not.

    It is safe to assume that there is NO economic need for them in rural parts of Quebec.

    “It is safe to assume that there is NO economic need for them in rural parts of Quebec.”

    NYT: Crops Rot in Quebec Fields, Cows Die from Burst Unmilked Udders

  98. @Paleo Liberal
    They make it very hard to emigrate to New Zealand. I looked at what it would take to retire there. It takes an aggregate of 1 1/4 million, some of which must be invested, the rest in a rainy day fund. That is for just a temporary visa.

    They make it very hard to emigrate to New Zealand.

    Do they? Then how does this happen:

    Just over 25 percent of New Zealand’s population at the 2013 census was born overseas, up from 23 percent in 2006 and 20 percent in 2001

  99. @Anonymous
    If they're a third or less of the population how could they have imposed anything on the country? Anglos need to fix the problem with their own people instead of blaming the French.

    I see you don’t know your Canadian politics. At some point this century, the last shred of this country will be sold off to a Chinese transexual and the only debate among old stock citizens will be about whether this was a plot by the dastardly frenchies to destroy anglo Canada or if it was the work of the evil anglos who did it to eradicate french canadians.

  100. @Paleo Liberal
    They make it very hard to emigrate to New Zealand. I looked at what it would take to retire there. It takes an aggregate of 1 1/4 million, some of which must be invested, the rest in a rainy day fund. That is for just a temporary visa.

    Not if you are Muslim or African. You get paid to come there. No place on earth wants White people and that goes double for White men. White men are despised and loathed all over the planet.

    Which is my point. Civ nat stuff has already failed. It been a failure for over a hundred years. And every place on the planet is White minority.

    Either Whites and especially White men are serfs or non Whites are. Domination or slavery are the only two choices.

    Look at NZ. The pm has gone full Muslim like a stereotype Eat Pray Love chick. White women will come around if every non White has to grovel. It’s why Muslims and Africans swagger so much

    • Replies: @istevefan
    And how did Whites go from conquerors to pussies in such a short time? And would you support a return to how Whites acted about 60-plus years ago?
  101. @Hail
    How is Quebec, a province, able to set its own immigration policy?

    U.S. states should consider following suit.

    The Canadian constitution allows for both the federal government and provinces to legislate on immigration. It’s a kind of messy dual-jurisdiction area and Quebec is the only province to bother exerting that right.

    I think a good avenue for citizens of the smaller, less diversified, provinces should be to get their provincial governments to demand more control on immigration instead of just taking what the feds give.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Yes, I believe the provinces got their foot in the door by insisting that immigration policy had to harmonise with industrial skills training, which falls under education which, in turn, is a provincial domain. At least, I think that's how it worked.
    , @Cagey Beast
    Here's the webpage on the federal government's website describing its arrangement with the province of Quebec:

    Quebec-selected skilled workers: About the process

    This is the application process for skilled workers who want to become permanent residents of Canada and live in Quebec.

    Quebec has a special agreement on immigration with the Government of Canada. The province has its own rules for choosing immigrants who will adapt well to living there.

    To immigrate to Canada as a Quebec-selected skilled worker, you must apply in the following 2 stages:

    1) Apply to the Government of Quebec for a Quebec Selection Certificate (Certificat de sélection du Québec [CSQ]).
    - The Province of Quebec will assess you, using its own rules.
    - The certificate shows that the Province of Quebec has accepted you as an immigrant.

    2) If the Province of Quebec chooses you and gives you a CSQ, you must apply to Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada for permanent residence.

     

    https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/quebec-skilled-workers.html
  102. Progressives in Quebec are fine with secularism but only if solely Christian symbols are suppressed from public view.

  103. @Cagey Beast
    Meanwhile, in respectable conservatism we have Charlie Kirk, the world's youngest Boomer. I'm certain we could find Canadian, Brit and Australian "conservatives" singing the same song for their supper:

    https://twitter.com/SoylentMerchant/status/1140703058403450885

    Seems like there is always an “israel” exception, no?

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Yeah, isn't it neat how he catches himself on the fly there and makes clear that America and Israel are identical on this issue, except Israel is entirely different.
  104. @Hail
    How is Quebec, a province, able to set its own immigration policy?

    U.S. states should consider following suit.

    You’re kidding, right?
    Setting its own immigration policy is exactly what California has done.

  105. @Cagey Beast
    Hardly. Québécois are culturally more like Appalachian rednecks than Parisians, except they don’t speak English. It’s still a very rural culture where people enjoy hunting, snowmobiling, drinking beer and playing ice hockey.

    True. You reminded me of an old cartoon broadcast on Radio-Canada a decade ago. Her'e the background to it:


    What we can learn from Hérouxville, the Quebec town that became shorthand for intolerance
    Hérouxville is a hamlet off a little-travelled highway in central Quebec and, for the past ten years, shorthand for the province's difficulties with diversity.

    At a town council meeting on this day in 2007, councillors unanimously adopted a code of conduct for its nonexistent immigrant population.

    The code included warning immigrants against stoning and burning women. It included, too, an explanation of the importance of Christmas trees.
     

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/herouxville-quebec-reasonable-accommodation-1.3950390

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUzY7tNEFg0

    - It starts with an intro that gives a mild scolding to Hérouxville and then we're off to the races.
    - The town's sign says "1,300 inhabitants. Real inhabitants" [Habitants, ie. "settlers" is another name for old stock Quebecers.]
    - The chorus is "hang on, goddamn it, we don't do accommodation"
    - A Sikh wants to go into a school with a dagger
    - A Muslim wants to buy firewood. The mayor doesn't want to sell it to him because he doesn't want him to use it to burn his wife to death
    - An Hasidic Jew tells him he doesn't want to eat pork. The sign on the wall says "pork. not expensive" but it's misspelled to make a pun on the French word for "kosher".
    - A group of outsiders: "a Buddhist, a Hebrew, a Mormon, a [?], a Baptist and the whole gang" arrive.
    - The mayor asks what the heck they want. "Are you kidding? We don't want to celebrate Christmas"
    - Lyrics: "hang on, goddamn it, we don't do accommodation. Celebrate Christmas like the rest of us with the little Jesus, presents and a Christmas tree".
    - The mayor ends with "don't mind them!"

    So basically this cartoon is telling us that Hérouxville is the coolest place on Earth.

    • LOL: Cagey Beast
  106. Here’s an article from today outlining Quebec’s immigration plan going forward. Google Translate did a surprisingly good job converting this to English: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fici.radio-canada.ca%2Fnouvelle%2F1188617%2Fimmigration-quebec-selection-arrima-legault

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Okay, now I get what Quebec is doing with this new legislation. Under its arrangement with the federal government, Quebec can certify immigrants based on their skills. Now with the new law:

    The law, which was sanctioned by the Lieutenant Governor Sunday night, ends the "first come, first served" procedure. Foreign nationals wishing to come to Quebec under the Regular Skilled Worker Program (PRTQ) must now complete a declaration of interest form.

    In this declaration of interest, the applicant is asked for information about his family situation, his career, his schooling and his knowledge of French and English. The candidate can also mention if he has a job offer.

    The Ministry of Immigration, Diversity and Inclusion (MIDI) subsequently invites applicants meeting the needs of the labor market to complete their file, which will be analyzed later according to a selection grid.
     

    (from the Radio-Canada article I posted above)

    So, before Quebec asks the skills related questions the federal government has agreed is in Quebec's domain, Quebec now will ask the applicant its own additional questions as the first hurdle they must clear. Very clever.

  107. @anon
    Seems like there is always an "israel" exception, no?

    Yeah, isn’t it neat how he catches himself on the fly there and makes clear that America and Israel are identical on this issue, except Israel is entirely different.

  108. @Anonymous
    Seems sensible. Tiny island with limited resources and free from the conflicts associated with over population and foreign peoples with barbaric beliefs customs etc.

    Tiny island with limited resources and free from the conflicts associated with over population and foreign peoples with barbaric beliefs customs etc.

    New Zealand is hardly tiny or limited in resources. It’s the size of Colorado with a similar population, and would stretch from Erie to Mobile, or Lake of the Woods to Lubbock.


    Wool doesn’t make their top ten list of exports:

    Dairy, eggs, honey: US$10.2 billion (26.5% of total exports)
    Meat: $5.2 billion (13.5%)
    Wood: $3.6 billion (9.4%)
    Fruits, nuts: $2.2 billion (5.8%)
    Beverages, spirits, vinegar: $1.4 billion (3.5%)
    Cereal/milk preparations: $1.3 billion (3.3%)
    Fish: $1.1 billion (2.9%)
    Machinery including computers: $1 billion (2.7%)
    Aluminum: $850.9 million (2.2%)
    Miscellaneous food preparations: $842.9 million (2.2%)

    http://www.worldstopexports.com/new-zealands-top-10-exports/

    They used to export locally mined jade, until the Maoris seized a monopoly on it. There is a jade processing industry which had built up beforehand, which now survives by importing the raw jade. Kind of a coals-to-Newcastle situation.

  109. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    God Bless Quebec. Vive le Quebec libre!

    Quebec used to take so much shit from the Ontario rednecks. "Fags", "Frogs", "Pepsis", etc... But who is laughing now. These people are standing up and taking a stand for their culture, race, and language, while those same rednecks in Ontario are competing with millions of aliens for increasingly scarce jobs.

    The English media is almost *completely* silent on this. They would hate for Anglo-Canadians, especially Ontarians who are largely fed up, to get any ideas.

    Here is the thing. Quebeckers don't give a fuck about you, they don't give a fuck about me (I'm Franco-Ontarian), they don't give a fuck about Jews. They only care about their own people. Their elites support Le Quebec. Any criticism they take only furthers their resolve to shove a fist up your ass, just to spite you. They have hundreds of years of resisting Anglo imperialism and, unlike Ireland, aren't giving it up now.

    God Bless. A real step in the right direction. Who knew it would be Quebec doing it. All the Muslims will be moving to vibrant Toronto now.

    (I’m Franco-Ontarian),

    Are you folks still breeding like the Dionnes? Or is Avril Lavigne more the rule now?

  110. @Anonymous
    If they're a third or less of the population how could they have imposed anything on the country? Anglos need to fix the problem with their own people instead of blaming the French.

    I think we need to check to see what was happening in other countries to judge how much we can blame on Quebec, Pierre Trudeau or Mulroney. It’s much harder to blame one region or faction in our home country if we see Australia, West Germany, France, the UK and US running quite similar plays back in the Seventies and Eighties.

  111. @Brobert
    The Canadian constitution allows for both the federal government and provinces to legislate on immigration. It's a kind of messy dual-jurisdiction area and Quebec is the only province to bother exerting that right.

    I think a good avenue for citizens of the smaller, less diversified, provinces should be to get their provincial governments to demand more control on immigration instead of just taking what the feds give.

    Yes, I believe the provinces got their foot in the door by insisting that immigration policy had to harmonise with industrial skills training, which falls under education which, in turn, is a provincial domain. At least, I think that’s how it worked.

  112. @Anonymous

    Immigration–truly foreign immigration from another race or culture–when you have sub-replacement fertility is just population replacement.
     
    Constant immigration means population replacement even when the indigenous population's fertility is at replacement. That is the unyielding math of situation.

    Immigration–truly foreign immigration from another race or culture–when you have sub-replacement fertility is just population replacement.

    Constant immigration means population replacement even when the indigenous population’s fertility is at replacement. That is the unyielding math of situation.

    Exactly. I was pointing out what is now *glaringly* obvious with sub-replacement fertility in the West.

    But “immigration” itself–the current post-modern conception–is just a mathematical bogus idea.

    What we actually had in the Americas was conquest. And “immigration” was simply the idea of allowing more white people–same race and culture (Western Christendom)–to come and help complete the conquest. By about 1890 the Native Indians had been thoroughly subdued, all the territory settled, railroads stretching across the nation–the frontier was essentially closed. To the extent additional people were ever needed at all–just to speed things up–they weren’t needed anymore.

    Basically the Jewish “nation of immigrants” ideology has been a terrific mind virus–ideological coup–against white people. First simply an ideology of you-must-let-me-in penetration. But fleshing out into a “multicultural” anti-majoritarian ideology of balkanization and destruction of cohesive white nations.

    Basic math/common sense–continual immigration is the replacement of your population, your people, with foreigners.

    • Replies: @anon19
    Immigration is colonization. It can reinforce an existing culture and population. Or replace it.



    No other outcomes are possible.
  113. @Brobert
    The Canadian constitution allows for both the federal government and provinces to legislate on immigration. It's a kind of messy dual-jurisdiction area and Quebec is the only province to bother exerting that right.

    I think a good avenue for citizens of the smaller, less diversified, provinces should be to get their provincial governments to demand more control on immigration instead of just taking what the feds give.

    Here’s the webpage on the federal government’s website describing its arrangement with the province of Quebec:

    Quebec-selected skilled workers: About the process

    This is the application process for skilled workers who want to become permanent residents of Canada and live in Quebec.

    Quebec has a special agreement on immigration with the Government of Canada. The province has its own rules for choosing immigrants who will adapt well to living there.

    To immigrate to Canada as a Quebec-selected skilled worker, you must apply in the following 2 stages:

    1) Apply to the Government of Quebec for a Quebec Selection Certificate (Certificat de sélection du Québec [CSQ]).
    – The Province of Quebec will assess you, using its own rules.
    – The certificate shows that the Province of Quebec has accepted you as an immigrant.

    2) If the Province of Quebec chooses you and gives you a CSQ, you must apply to Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada for permanent residence.

    https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/quebec-skilled-workers.html

  114. @Cagey Beast
    Here's an article from today outlining Quebec's immigration plan going forward. Google Translate did a surprisingly good job converting this to English: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fici.radio-canada.ca%2Fnouvelle%2F1188617%2Fimmigration-quebec-selection-arrima-legault

    https://twitter.com/RadioCanadaInfo/status/1140946874289065984

    Okay, now I get what Quebec is doing with this new legislation. Under its arrangement with the federal government, Quebec can certify immigrants based on their skills. Now with the new law:

    The law, which was sanctioned by the Lieutenant Governor Sunday night, ends the “first come, first served” procedure. Foreign nationals wishing to come to Quebec under the Regular Skilled Worker Program (PRTQ) must now complete a declaration of interest form.

    In this declaration of interest, the applicant is asked for information about his family situation, his career, his schooling and his knowledge of French and English. The candidate can also mention if he has a job offer.

    The Ministry of Immigration, Diversity and Inclusion (MIDI) subsequently invites applicants meeting the needs of the labor market to complete their file, which will be analyzed later according to a selection grid.

    (from the Radio-Canada article I posted above)

    So, before Quebec asks the skills related questions the federal government has agreed is in Quebec’s domain, Quebec now will ask the applicant its own additional questions as the first hurdle they must clear. Very clever.

  115. @Charles Erwin Wilson 3
    Wow! At first I thought Max Chaudhary is advocating common sense! The diverse get unwoke! But then

    "It is a reality that there are too many people immigrating to the urban centres of Quebec so it does make logical common sense for the government to try to incentivize the candidates to go to rural parts of Quebec, assuming there is an economic need,” he added.
     
    so maybe not.

    It is safe to assume that there is NO economic need for them in rural parts of Quebec.

    Lots of family doctor shortages in Canada all round, not saying we should take too many, but maybe we should have new skilled immigrants with the relevant degrees relocate to these rural desolate zones, to kind of cool down the pricing in the major agglomerations of Canada, as part of a legal mandate.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    Lots of family doctor shortages in Canada all round, not saying we should take too many, but maybe we should have new skilled immigrants with the relevant degrees relocate to these rural desolate zones, to kind of cool down the pricing in the major agglomerations of Canada, as part of a legal mandate.
     
    No need.

    We have this concept called a "market". If something is in short supply, then it's market price can rise and people rush in to fill the gap.

    The idea that there's some sort of shortage of native Canadians capable of being doctors is a joke. If there's a problem it's a pricing problem. Make it worthwhile. If there's a targetting--i.e. rural--issue, make that worthwhile. (The government is running this show up there, so this isn't even difficult.)

    Furthermore ... there's a long secular trend to not needing so many doctors. Half of the med school process is trying to jam into a bunch of kids' brains enough knowledge to tackle a lot of medical problems. But the truth is *no* individual doctor is going to be better figuring things out than an expert system based on the gelled knowledge we've accumulated.

    Five or so years back i diagnosed AnotherChild2's appendicitis when he was up in the middle of the night sick, right before we launched on a long vacation (Germany for a week then on to India) in the morning. Talking to him, reading WebMD, talking some more, and i told him "you have appendicitis, this trip isn't happening, we're going to the hospital". Sure 'nough.

    I'm not pissing on the whole doctor thing. AnotherChild1 is in med school now. But i told her before she launched: expert systems are what's coming down the road. A lot of the "hands on patients"--for the vast majority of simple cases--will be done by nurse practioners and physician assistants, backed by expert systems at lower cost; with fewer doctors backing them up for the more complicated interventions--still backed by expert systems.

    ~~

    Bottom line: No nation--certainly no Western nation full of white people--needs any foreign people, including skilled people. We've been producing the most highly skilled people in the world for a few thousand years.

    If some Indian docs don't want to live in the 'ohm land, they can pack their bags and go practice somewhere there's a real IQ/skills deficit. Say Botswana.
  116. @anon19
    What you are saying is wrong, rude and the opposite of the truth. Quebec is almost 100% to blame for Canada's immigration nightmare and racial mess. Quebec ZEALOUSLY - ZEALOUSLY - supported the federal Liberal party, especially chief asshole Francophone Pierre Trudeau. And it was the Liberals who opened Canada's doors to the world.

    Dont expect Franco to admit that though because he’s an ignorant franco(slightly redundant). What about that Franco? Are they still based?

  117. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    God Bless Quebec. Vive le Quebec libre!

    Quebec used to take so much shit from the Ontario rednecks. "Fags", "Frogs", "Pepsis", etc... But who is laughing now. These people are standing up and taking a stand for their culture, race, and language, while those same rednecks in Ontario are competing with millions of aliens for increasingly scarce jobs.

    The English media is almost *completely* silent on this. They would hate for Anglo-Canadians, especially Ontarians who are largely fed up, to get any ideas.

    Here is the thing. Quebeckers don't give a fuck about you, they don't give a fuck about me (I'm Franco-Ontarian), they don't give a fuck about Jews. They only care about their own people. Their elites support Le Quebec. Any criticism they take only furthers their resolve to shove a fist up your ass, just to spite you. They have hundreds of years of resisting Anglo imperialism and, unlike Ireland, aren't giving it up now.

    God Bless. A real step in the right direction. Who knew it would be Quebec doing it. All the Muslims will be moving to vibrant Toronto now.

    All the Muslims will be moving to vibrant Toronto now.

    Nope lol they are stuck with them.

    “Fags”, “Frogs”, “Pepsis”,

    Still very much applicable LOL

    Vive le Quebec libre!

    YES!! LET THESE FROGGIES STARVE!! VIVE!!

  118. “Just before the final vote, the bill’s sponsor, Simon Jolin-Barrette, minister of immigration, diversity and inclusiveness, asked all legislators to “convey the principles of state secularism with calm and respect.” …”

    If you’ve got one of those in your government, you’re already f***ed.

  119. @Brobert
    The intransigence of immigrationists on those bills is almost counter-productive. I suppose they thought total victory had been achieved and getting any kind of push back is impairing they ability to think straight.

    Because, in the long run, those are little more than symbolic gestures. Okay cops and teachers won't be allowed to wear religious symbols for a while, but after another decade or two of mass immigration (and premier Legault is absolutely fine with that—our God, the economy, demands it), another decade or two of French Canadian boomers dying off and the liberal party will be back in power with enough backing to rescind the law. Sort of like how forcing immigrant children to go to french language schools didn't make them "quebecois francophones" in any meaningful way, but did convince a sizable portion of the population that the assimilation problem was solved.

    another decade or two of French Canadian boomers dying off and the liberal party will be back in power

    They’ve been voting for Liberal for a long time and they enthusiastically voted in TrudeauSR

  120. @Anon
    China , India, Russia, India, Korea(s), Indonesia, and the "Stans" all dont seem to have this problem of would be applicants from all over the world wanting to move there.

    Whats their secret?

    Their media is on the side of their peoples. Ours is not. No sob stories. No intelligentsia scolding from academia.

    Dont pretend to know how well this is gonna go over the next 40 years. We dont know. Nobody does. It hasnt been done before on this scale with establishment approval.

    You guys could always implement a “Burmiputera” type of positive affirmative action policy like the Malays in Malaysia, which as the name suggests, favours the native Malays of said country. This type of legislation effectuates certain quotas in different lines of industry, civil service positions, and other areas for the aboriginals, and they(referring to the different races of the nation) live in relative harmony with each other.

  121. A positive opinion piece from English Canada’s National Post:

    Barbara Kay: Why Quebec’s immigration and secularism bills get it right
    I think many Canadians, not just Québécois, feel that policies like Bill 21 will be a positive force for social integration of immigrants
    https://nationalpost.com/opinion/barbara-kay-why-quebecs-immigration-and-secularism-bills-get-it-right

  122. @anon19
    What you are saying is wrong, rude and the opposite of the truth. Quebec is almost 100% to blame for Canada's immigration nightmare and racial mess. Quebec ZEALOUSLY - ZEALOUSLY - supported the federal Liberal party, especially chief asshole Francophone Pierre Trudeau. And it was the Liberals who opened Canada's doors to the world.

    Is Quebec also responsible for Australia’s abandonment of the White Australia Policy? Is it responsible for West Germany, the Netherlands and France adopting policies that allowed guest workers’ families join them in Europe? Are they responsible for the 1965 Immigration Act in the US? I ask because all that happened during or just before the Trudeau era. Maybe there was a larger trend that Trudeau’s government was only a part of?

    • Replies: @anon19
    My immediate answer would be no. Quebec is 100% responsible for Canada's immigration disaster and only Canada's. To some extent the events you describe were part of the prevailing ZEITGEIST of the period. The elite globalists now had a new playground - the UN - and the nazis had made mention of race especially among whites a shibboleth.
  123. Praise be to Allah. Finally! North American governance with some cojones. I will even forgive them for being Canadian.

  124. @Cagey Beast
    If you mean she's a Transalpine Gaul, I suppose you're correct.

    Why yes,that’s exactly what I meant. A Transalpine Gaul…with a dick.

  125. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "18,000 hopeful Canadians "

    Meaning, 18,000 coolies who aren't actually Canadians at all.

    “Coolie” – now that brings back memories of a great movie…

  126. @El Dato
    India’s population to surpass China’s in 6yrs, nearly 10 billion total on Earth by 2050 – UN

    A newly released report by the HOPEFUL CANADIAN Division of the UN Department of Economic and Social Affairs (DESA) titled ‘The World HOPEFUL CANADIAN Prospects 2019: Highlights’ estimates that a mind-boggling 9.7 billion HOPEFUL CANADIANS will inhabit the Earth by 2050, an increase of two billion from now.

    Nine countries are projected to be responsible for over the half of that surge. Leading the way is India, which is projected to add 273 million to its already massive 1.37 billion HOPEFUL CANADIANS and overtake China, whose HOPEFUL CANADIANS are expected to shrink by 31.4 million between 2019 and 2050.

    Runner-up Nigeria is not lagging far behind, and is expected to add 200 million HOPEFUL CANADIANS by 2050 [stats probably vague]. Pakistan, Ethiopia, Tanzania, Indonesia, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Egypt, and the US are the other seven countries that will be driving the world HOPEFUL CANADIANS' growth in the next 30 years, according to the report.

    But the biggest jump in HOPEFUL CANADIAN size will happen in sub-Saharan Africa, where it will grow two-fold by 2050, a development that might further strain the fragile social systems of the countries.
     

    LOL. Well done, El Dato!

    (Though if truth be told most of them are actually HOPEFUL AMERICANS and only end up as HOPEFUL CANADIANS when that’s the easier route.)

  127. @Cagey Beast
    Hardly. Québécois are culturally more like Appalachian rednecks than Parisians, except they don’t speak English. It’s still a very rural culture where people enjoy hunting, snowmobiling, drinking beer and playing ice hockey.

    True. You reminded me of an old cartoon broadcast on Radio-Canada a decade ago. Her'e the background to it:


    What we can learn from Hérouxville, the Quebec town that became shorthand for intolerance
    Hérouxville is a hamlet off a little-travelled highway in central Quebec and, for the past ten years, shorthand for the province's difficulties with diversity.

    At a town council meeting on this day in 2007, councillors unanimously adopted a code of conduct for its nonexistent immigrant population.

    The code included warning immigrants against stoning and burning women. It included, too, an explanation of the importance of Christmas trees.
     

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/herouxville-quebec-reasonable-accommodation-1.3950390

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUzY7tNEFg0

    - It starts with an intro that gives a mild scolding to Hérouxville and then we're off to the races.
    - The town's sign says "1,300 inhabitants. Real inhabitants" [Habitants, ie. "settlers" is another name for old stock Quebecers.]
    - The chorus is "hang on, goddamn it, we don't do accommodation"
    - A Sikh wants to go into a school with a dagger
    - A Muslim wants to buy firewood. The mayor doesn't want to sell it to him because he doesn't want him to use it to burn his wife to death
    - An Hasidic Jew tells him he doesn't want to eat pork. The sign on the wall says "pork. not expensive" but it's misspelled to make a pun on the French word for "kosher".
    - A group of outsiders: "a Buddhist, a Hebrew, a Mormon, a [?], a Baptist and the whole gang" arrive.
    - The mayor asks what the heck they want. "Are you kidding? We don't want to celebrate Christmas"
    - Lyrics: "hang on, goddamn it, we don't do accommodation. Celebrate Christmas like the rest of us with the little Jesus, presents and a Christmas tree".
    - The mayor ends with "don't mind them!"

    I’m not sure if I laughed harder when:

    Les Habitants ripped the hijab and turban off the Muslims, forcibly shaved the guy then slapped Montreal Canadiens hats on the couple!

    or

    Les Habitants pinned the Hasidic Jew to the ground and force fed him an entire package of bacon!

    Coolest place on Earth – CONFIRMED

  128. @Whiskey
    Not if you are Muslim or African. You get paid to come there. No place on earth wants White people and that goes double for White men. White men are despised and loathed all over the planet.

    Which is my point. Civ nat stuff has already failed. It been a failure for over a hundred years. And every place on the planet is White minority.

    Either Whites and especially White men are serfs or non Whites are. Domination or slavery are the only two choices.

    Look at NZ. The pm has gone full Muslim like a stereotype Eat Pray Love chick. White women will come around if every non White has to grovel. It's why Muslims and Africans swagger so much

    And how did Whites go from conquerors to pussies in such a short time? And would you support a return to how Whites acted about 60-plus years ago?

  129. @BengaliCanadianDude
    Lots of family doctor shortages in Canada all round, not saying we should take too many, but maybe we should have new skilled immigrants with the relevant degrees relocate to these rural desolate zones, to kind of cool down the pricing in the major agglomerations of Canada, as part of a legal mandate.

    Lots of family doctor shortages in Canada all round, not saying we should take too many, but maybe we should have new skilled immigrants with the relevant degrees relocate to these rural desolate zones, to kind of cool down the pricing in the major agglomerations of Canada, as part of a legal mandate.

    No need.

    We have this concept called a “market”. If something is in short supply, then it’s market price can rise and people rush in to fill the gap.

    The idea that there’s some sort of shortage of native Canadians capable of being doctors is a joke. If there’s a problem it’s a pricing problem. Make it worthwhile. If there’s a targetting–i.e. rural–issue, make that worthwhile. (The government is running this show up there, so this isn’t even difficult.)

    Furthermore … there’s a long secular trend to not needing so many doctors. Half of the med school process is trying to jam into a bunch of kids’ brains enough knowledge to tackle a lot of medical problems. But the truth is *no* individual doctor is going to be better figuring things out than an expert system based on the gelled knowledge we’ve accumulated.

    Five or so years back i diagnosed AnotherChild2’s appendicitis when he was up in the middle of the night sick, right before we launched on a long vacation (Germany for a week then on to India) in the morning. Talking to him, reading WebMD, talking some more, and i told him “you have appendicitis, this trip isn’t happening, we’re going to the hospital”. Sure ‘nough.

    I’m not pissing on the whole doctor thing. AnotherChild1 is in med school now. But i told her before she launched: expert systems are what’s coming down the road. A lot of the “hands on patients”–for the vast majority of simple cases–will be done by nurse practioners and physician assistants, backed by expert systems at lower cost; with fewer doctors backing them up for the more complicated interventions–still backed by expert systems.

    ~~

    Bottom line: No nation–certainly no Western nation full of white people–needs any foreign people, including skilled people. We’ve been producing the most highly skilled people in the world for a few thousand years.

    If some Indian docs don’t want to live in the ‘ohm land, they can pack their bags and go practice somewhere there’s a real IQ/skills deficit. Say Botswana.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  130. Canada has a different system to the United States, so the situations are not comparable. The wait times are bad enough as it is, and there are severe lingering backlogs for the application list needed to obtain a family physician. Rural areas are hit the hardest because they have a shortage of doctors in the first place, and because they are not tenaciously attractive to the young professional(or the old one) out of his/her residency. I’m not saying higher levels of immigration, I’m saying keep the current status quo, or have it reduced, but basically introduce mandates which stipulate that new immigrants coming in from the express entry program must relocate to these deprived rural zones.

  131. @Cagey Beast
    No it's likely much the same. It's not booming but it's not stagnating either. The cars are new, the houses are generally well maintained and the main streets are doing alright. I see new residential and commercial construction all over the place. Quebec also had a huge number of "hiring" signs along my route here.

    "All along my route" made me think of de Gaulle's famous speech from the balcony of Montreal city hall:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Uv5XGq4Iyo

    Thanks. Glad to hear it.

  132. @Peter Frost
    It was the Liberal party, especially under globalist (“it doesn’t matter where the immigrants come from”.) Pierre Trudeau who opened Canada’s doors to the (third) world.

    A lot of Canadians believe this, but it's not true. The doors were opened by the Conservative government of John Diefenbaker in 1962:


    When the Progressive Conservatives came to power in 1957, they began a thorough review of immigration policy, intending to make extensive modifications to the existing act. Following the Second World War and the Holocaust, there was increased awareness and sensitivity to matters of racial discrimination. Prime Minister John Diefenbaker introduced the Bill of Rights in 1960, which rejected discrimination on the basis of race, colour, national origin, religion or sex. As such, the selection of immigrants on the basis of ethnicity and national origin became difficult to justify

     

    Diefenbaker could have made this change through a new immigration act, but he was afraid of not getting parliamentary approval:

    While the government originally intended to develop a new immigration act, this policy was introduced as a separate set of regulations. New regulations could be implemented quickly by the authority of cabinet whereas acts had to pass through various stages of approval in Parliament. By drafting these regulations, Fairclough likely introduced a more liberal policy than could have been achieved through a new immigration act.

     

    https://pier21.ca/research/immigration-history/immigration-regulations-order-in-council-pc-1962-86-1962

    When these changes were incorporated into the Immigration Act of 1967 (under the Liberal government of Lester Pearson), there was no criticism from the Conservative opposition. Pierre Elliot Trudeau took over the following year, but he made no further legislative changes. He simply carried out an immigration policy that was already in place.

    When Trudeau's long reign ended, he was eventually replaced by the Conservative Brian Mulroney. In 1987, Mulroney considerably increased immigration:


    A symbolic turning point was 1987. This was the year when the Progressive Conservative government of Brian Mulroney started to increase the numbers of immigrants admitted, and kept right on increasing them through the subsequent 1990-1992 recession abandoning the previous tap-on, tap-off policy whereby the number of immigrants admitted was cut back during recessions, when the economy was unable to absorb them.

     

    https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/mawkish-view-immigration-overlooks-facts

    Moral of the story: Immigration policy will not substantially change if we replace a Liberal government with a Conservative government. The current policy is the outcome of a bipartisan consensus.

    I agree there is a bipartisan consensus among the corrupt and degenerate elites but the rest of what you say is basically incorrect. The changes introduced by Diefenbaker in 1962 were actually very modest. He opened up Canada to a small amount of immigration from the Commonwealth, but Canada remained heavily European in its immigration pool. The REAL CHANGES occurred in 1967 when Pearson and Kent introduced the points system and closed down immigration offices across Europe and opened them everywhere throughout the third world. 1967 is the TRUE turning point in Canadian immigration. Trudeau was only too happy to carry out the policy since watering down the Anglos made it easier for him to impose his bilingual agenda on the country.

    “The slection of immigrants on the basis of ethnicity became difficult to justify”.

    It shouldn’t have. Immigration is a privilege, not a right, and it makes no sense to create an ethnic minority needlessly.

    • Replies: @Peter Frost
    You sound like my mother. I can assure you that nothing would have changed if the Conservative Robert Stanfield had been elected in 1968, instead of the Liberal Pierre Elliot Trudeau.

    Why would Stanfield have repealed the Immigration Act of 1967? He voted for it! As did his party. Would his party have reduced the overall level of immigration? Very unlikely. They had a chance to reduce immigration in 1979 when they formed the government under Joe Clark. They didn't. They had another chance in 1984 when they formed the government under Brian Mulroney. He actually increased immigration.

    Everything indicates that the Conservatives would have been more pro-immigration, not less.

    As Canada braces for the arrival of 25,000 Syrian refugees, the man who served as immigration minister during the Vietnamese boat people crisis says Ottawa should be doing much more.

    Ron Atkey believes the 25,000 Syrians Ottawa is promising to re-settle initially is a “noble objective” but he wants Canada to up the ante.

    “If Canada can do another 25,000 — that would make a significant contribution in line with Canada’s contribution with the Vietnamese boat people in 1979 to 1980. It will demonstrate to the Americans that they have to do more. We’ll shame them into it, similarly the Australians,” says Atkey, who was immigration minister in the Joe Clark government in 1979 when 50,000 Vietnamese refugees were granted asylum in Canada. By the end of 1980, that number had risen to 60,000

     

    https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2015/12/01/ex-immigration-minister-urges-canada-to-double-intake-of-syrian-refugees.html
  133. @Anonymous
    If they're a third or less of the population how could they have imposed anything on the country? Anglos need to fix the problem with their own people instead of blaming the French.

    Two reasons.

    1) The French-Canadian vote was/is EXTREMELY COHESIVE. The anglophone population is not.

    2) The Liberals have always pursued a strategy of “Unite the French and divide the English.” They have it down to a science. May i suggest you read the book THE PATRIOT GAME by Peter Brimlow. Another good book is FRENCH POWER.

  134. @Jake
    The vomit of Peter Brimelow and his ilk regurgitated. If only WASP Elites ruled the world, then what a paradise it would be, because WASP Elites have never acted to harm any non-WASP whites and their cultures, nor have WASPs ever used blacks and Jews and Mohammedans and other non-whites and non-Christians as weapons and tools against the white Christians that WASPs hate. WASPs such the most pure Brit kind would never, under any circumstances, bash whites to create something like black ruled South Africa or Zimbabwe.

    So being white and trusting WASPs and marching to tune of WASP Elites is the only logical choice.

    Right?

    How you got any of this or reach these ludicrous conclusions from my post is beyond me sport.

  135. @AnotherDad


    Immigration–truly foreign immigration from another race or culture–when you have sub-replacement fertility is just population replacement.
     
    Constant immigration means population replacement even when the indigenous population’s fertility is at replacement. That is the unyielding math of situation.
     
    Exactly. I was pointing out what is now *glaringly* obvious with sub-replacement fertility in the West.

    But "immigration" itself--the current post-modern conception--is just a mathematical bogus idea.

    What we actually had in the Americas was conquest. And "immigration" was simply the idea of allowing more white people--same race and culture (Western Christendom)--to come and help complete the conquest. By about 1890 the Native Indians had been thoroughly subdued, all the territory settled, railroads stretching across the nation--the frontier was essentially closed. To the extent additional people were ever needed at all--just to speed things up--they weren't needed anymore.

    Basically the Jewish "nation of immigrants" ideology has been a terrific mind virus--ideological coup--against white people. First simply an ideology of you-must-let-me-in penetration. But fleshing out into a "multicultural" anti-majoritarian ideology of balkanization and destruction of cohesive white nations.

    Basic math/common sense--continual immigration is the replacement of your population, your people, with foreigners.

    Immigration is colonization. It can reinforce an existing culture and population. Or replace it.

    No other outcomes are possible.

  136. @Cagey Beast
    Is Quebec also responsible for Australia's abandonment of the White Australia Policy? Is it responsible for West Germany, the Netherlands and France adopting policies that allowed guest workers' families join them in Europe? Are they responsible for the 1965 Immigration Act in the US? I ask because all that happened during or just before the Trudeau era. Maybe there was a larger trend that Trudeau's government was only a part of?

    My immediate answer would be no. Quebec is 100% responsible for Canada’s immigration disaster and only Canada’s. To some extent the events you describe were part of the prevailing ZEITGEIST of the period. The elite globalists now had a new playground – the UN – and the nazis had made mention of race especially among whites a shibboleth.

  137. @anon19
    I agree there is a bipartisan consensus among the corrupt and degenerate elites but the rest of what you say is basically incorrect. The changes introduced by Diefenbaker in 1962 were actually very modest. He opened up Canada to a small amount of immigration from the Commonwealth, but Canada remained heavily European in its immigration pool. The REAL CHANGES occurred in 1967 when Pearson and Kent introduced the points system and closed down immigration offices across Europe and opened them everywhere throughout the third world. 1967 is the TRUE turning point in Canadian immigration. Trudeau was only too happy to carry out the policy since watering down the Anglos made it easier for him to impose his bilingual agenda on the country.

    "The slection of immigrants on the basis of ethnicity became difficult to justify".

    It shouldn't have. Immigration is a privilege, not a right, and it makes no sense to create an ethnic minority needlessly.

    You sound like my mother. I can assure you that nothing would have changed if the Conservative Robert Stanfield had been elected in 1968, instead of the Liberal Pierre Elliot Trudeau.

    Why would Stanfield have repealed the Immigration Act of 1967? He voted for it! As did his party. Would his party have reduced the overall level of immigration? Very unlikely. They had a chance to reduce immigration in 1979 when they formed the government under Joe Clark. They didn’t. They had another chance in 1984 when they formed the government under Brian Mulroney. He actually increased immigration.

    Everything indicates that the Conservatives would have been more pro-immigration, not less.

    As Canada braces for the arrival of 25,000 Syrian refugees, the man who served as immigration minister during the Vietnamese boat people crisis says Ottawa should be doing much more.

    Ron Atkey believes the 25,000 Syrians Ottawa is promising to re-settle initially is a “noble objective” but he wants Canada to up the ante.

    “If Canada can do another 25,000 — that would make a significant contribution in line with Canada’s contribution with the Vietnamese boat people in 1979 to 1980. It will demonstrate to the Americans that they have to do more. We’ll shame them into it, similarly the Australians,” says Atkey, who was immigration minister in the Joe Clark government in 1979 when 50,000 Vietnamese refugees were granted asylum in Canada. By the end of 1980, that number had risen to 60,000

    https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2015/12/01/ex-immigration-minister-urges-canada-to-double-intake-of-syrian-refugees.html

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    I agree completely. I was thinking about this myself while away from the keyboard. If, on an alternate timeline, Brian Mulroney had won the PC leadership the first time he ran, he might have brought his ex-Union Nationale back-benchers to Ottawa a few years sooner. Ironically, only they could have influenced the federal government to cool down the flow of immigrants. Even in that scenario, Bay St. and the Chamber of Commerce crowd would have joined with the one-worlders to demand that Mulroney tame his Quebec MPs.
    , @franktremb
    Multiculturalism was a concept originally created by the Ukrainian community in Western Canada and pushed by their leaders and first talked by a federal politician by Diefenbaker's Senator Paul Yuzyk. It's not just the Trudeau Liberals who thought Multiculturalism and Immigration was a "brilliant" way to deny Canada was a Bi-National country and say to a more asservative Quebec: "You're not a Nation, you're just a part of the cultural mosaic that is Canada".
  138. @Peter Frost
    You sound like my mother. I can assure you that nothing would have changed if the Conservative Robert Stanfield had been elected in 1968, instead of the Liberal Pierre Elliot Trudeau.

    Why would Stanfield have repealed the Immigration Act of 1967? He voted for it! As did his party. Would his party have reduced the overall level of immigration? Very unlikely. They had a chance to reduce immigration in 1979 when they formed the government under Joe Clark. They didn't. They had another chance in 1984 when they formed the government under Brian Mulroney. He actually increased immigration.

    Everything indicates that the Conservatives would have been more pro-immigration, not less.

    As Canada braces for the arrival of 25,000 Syrian refugees, the man who served as immigration minister during the Vietnamese boat people crisis says Ottawa should be doing much more.

    Ron Atkey believes the 25,000 Syrians Ottawa is promising to re-settle initially is a “noble objective” but he wants Canada to up the ante.

    “If Canada can do another 25,000 — that would make a significant contribution in line with Canada’s contribution with the Vietnamese boat people in 1979 to 1980. It will demonstrate to the Americans that they have to do more. We’ll shame them into it, similarly the Australians,” says Atkey, who was immigration minister in the Joe Clark government in 1979 when 50,000 Vietnamese refugees were granted asylum in Canada. By the end of 1980, that number had risen to 60,000

     

    https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2015/12/01/ex-immigration-minister-urges-canada-to-double-intake-of-syrian-refugees.html

    I agree completely. I was thinking about this myself while away from the keyboard. If, on an alternate timeline, Brian Mulroney had won the PC leadership the first time he ran, he might have brought his ex-Union Nationale back-benchers to Ottawa a few years sooner. Ironically, only they could have influenced the federal government to cool down the flow of immigrants. Even in that scenario, Bay St. and the Chamber of Commerce crowd would have joined with the one-worlders to demand that Mulroney tame his Quebec MPs.

  139. @Peter Frost
    You sound like my mother. I can assure you that nothing would have changed if the Conservative Robert Stanfield had been elected in 1968, instead of the Liberal Pierre Elliot Trudeau.

    Why would Stanfield have repealed the Immigration Act of 1967? He voted for it! As did his party. Would his party have reduced the overall level of immigration? Very unlikely. They had a chance to reduce immigration in 1979 when they formed the government under Joe Clark. They didn't. They had another chance in 1984 when they formed the government under Brian Mulroney. He actually increased immigration.

    Everything indicates that the Conservatives would have been more pro-immigration, not less.

    As Canada braces for the arrival of 25,000 Syrian refugees, the man who served as immigration minister during the Vietnamese boat people crisis says Ottawa should be doing much more.

    Ron Atkey believes the 25,000 Syrians Ottawa is promising to re-settle initially is a “noble objective” but he wants Canada to up the ante.

    “If Canada can do another 25,000 — that would make a significant contribution in line with Canada’s contribution with the Vietnamese boat people in 1979 to 1980. It will demonstrate to the Americans that they have to do more. We’ll shame them into it, similarly the Australians,” says Atkey, who was immigration minister in the Joe Clark government in 1979 when 50,000 Vietnamese refugees were granted asylum in Canada. By the end of 1980, that number had risen to 60,000

     

    https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2015/12/01/ex-immigration-minister-urges-canada-to-double-intake-of-syrian-refugees.html

    Multiculturalism was a concept originally created by the Ukrainian community in Western Canada and pushed by their leaders and first talked by a federal politician by Diefenbaker’s Senator Paul Yuzyk. It’s not just the Trudeau Liberals who thought Multiculturalism and Immigration was a “brilliant” way to deny Canada was a Bi-National country and say to a more asservative Quebec: “You’re not a Nation, you’re just a part of the cultural mosaic that is Canada”.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
  140. @Cagey Beast
    Yes, I think they have a far better chance than we do right now. Along with what you mentioned, I'd add that Quebecers (and other Francophone communities in the Maritimes, Manitoba and Ontario) have a crucial advantage over us Anglos: they have a professional managerial class that fights for them.

    They have politicians, journalists, lawyers and professors arguing the case for their communities while we have grinning or scolding fools just bursting with pride for constantly selling us out. We in the Anglosphere are still stuck acting like grand and generous 1960's liberals, no matter how much it hurts us. We need to wise up immediately and have a look at what other people are doing; from Quebec to Hungary, to Russia and Italy.

    After the British Conquest, the elite of New France almost all went back to France. Having no elite had an impact on their accent(which is an evolution of Northern France’s peasant dialect) and the fact that nowadays the elite and the lowest class all have the same surnames. It created a more egalitarian society.

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