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Sorry, Nancy, you’re just not intersectional enough

From the Jerusalem Post:

DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES WILL NOT ATTEND AIPAC

Some of the Democratic candidates for the US presidential elections said on Thursday they would skip annual AIPAC conference in Washington DC next week amid concerns of extremism.
BY ALON EINHORN MARCH 22, 2019 11:33

Some of the Democratic candidates for the US presidential elections said on Thursday they would not attend the annual AIPAC conference in Washington, D.C. next week.

Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, former House of Representatives member Beto O’Rourke and Senator Kamala Harris of California, all of whom announced they would run for the Democratic primaries next year, decided not to attend the conference….

On Thursday, Trump announced in a historic step that the time has come for the US to recognize Israel’s sovereignty on the Golan Heights.

AIPAC has refused to comment on the absence of the presidential candidates, but noted that some of the Democratic candidates in the current primaries have already attended the conference, including Harris, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey and Senator Amy Klobuchar.

In 2007, the most equivalent year to 2019 for Democrats in terms of having a large number of potential candidates, both Hillary and Obama attended AIPAC.

Of course, as Pelosi understands even better than Omar, it really is all about the Benjamins. As I quantified in my Taki’s Magazine column “Truth or Trope?” among the Top 50 donors in 2018, Democrats got 76% of their campaign contributions from Jewish funders.

The Center-Left billboard looks like the prequel: “Anchorman 1968.”

But if the GOP-affiliated Bibi loses on April 9th to the Democrat-affiliated Gen. Benny Gantz and his posse of Straight White Men, expect most American Democrats to kiss and make up over Israel.

Temporarily.

 
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  1. anon[415] • Disclaimer says:

    The AIPAC conference is the holy of holys. The financial and media blessings of the global Jewish elite will go to the chosen few who most successfully kiss ass at this conference. To skip this conference is a brazen insult to those elites. The miscreants will be cursed and cast out of politics.
    These lefty upstarts who skip this conference are going to get a harsh lesson in Jewish reality.

    • Replies: @Lot
    “These lefty upstarts who skip this conference are going to get a harsh lesson in Jewish reality.”

    Deus vult!
    , @Anonymous

    These lefty upstarts who skip this conference are going to get a harsh lesson in Jewish reality.
     
    But it is a harbinger of things to come. There will come a time when the new imported masses simply won't listen to the people who had assumed they would be their masters.
  2. Lots of interesting questions here:
    – Will Jewish voters switch to the Republican Party? Or at least stay home in 2020?
    – Will Jewish campaign contributions shift away from the Democrats in 2020?
    – Even if the answer to the above two questions is yes, will it impact the election?

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
    I can count the number of jewish people I've been acquainted with on my fingers, so I can't opine on the question of how much jews are jewish vs. how much they are lefty's.

    But jews being a neglible amount of the electorate, even NY, mean the real question is is the second one, which is will jews not be ponying up campaign cash for the 2020 election cycle? Since they fund about half of the dems national elections even a small amount could hurt Kamala or whoever. I'd bet somewhat of an impact, but jews are like blacks in that they view it as an article of faith that you have to be a dem voter.

    They've learned how to navigate the political waters even when the wind is seemingly against them, so I wouldn't look for a big shift.

    , @anon
    >Will Jewish voters switch to the Republican Party? Or at least stay home in 2020?

    No-- they'll still accept Dems as lesser of two evils until it's something more than rhetoric. Will hold steady hoping things blow over.

    In the short/medium term the same thing will happen to the BDS wing of Dems as happens to immigration restrictionist R's: lip service will be paid during campaign season then reversal/inaction during actual governance.

    > will it impact the election?

    More important impact would be in R party policy. It would become more cuckish than already is--renewed life for neo cons, billionaires/chamber of commerce factions.

    The whole "becoming the white party" is a Pyrrhic victory. By the time it happens, voting for the other party will be completely off the table. Thus, you're locked-in: you have to swallow a lot of unacceptable stuff within your own party. And once there is no reasonable alternative choice (flipping your vote in the general) the elites can then use the party apparatus to garner even more power than they already wield in our nominally party-fluid present circumstances.

    , @Anonymous
    Ha ha hell no

    Learn the diaspora strategy.
    , @MBlanc46
    No and no.
  3. Jeremy Corbyn was for a long time seen as an isolated British problem. And the “Guardian” orchestrated a seemingly successful campaign against him (damaging his image in the public, albeit not in the party).
    But now Corbyn looks more like a forerunner of a general trend. And will the NYT be able to orchestrate such a successful campaign against a Democrat leader as the “Guardian” against a Labour leader?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The Guardian is pro-Corbyn.
  4. The feather, the dot, the fecal avocado, and Methuselah aren’t going. The boring ones are.

    Anyone know if Dickenlooper will be there? I’d love to see him and Beto in a poetry-slam debate!

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Failed Rap Battles Of History!
    , @Peripatetic Commenter
    Are you John and Ken?

    https://kfiam640.iheart.com/content/2019-03-22-2020-democratic-candidates-autobiography-details-his-sexual-conquests/

    Maybe Dickenlooper thinks it will help him with the vital African American female voters.
  5. Surely there are not enough Muslims in America to make them a group worth pursuing;

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    We used to say the same thing about trannies. But we were wrong.
    , @The Alarmist

    "Surely there are not enough Muslims in America to make them a group worth pursuing...."
     
    You haven't been paying attention. Muslim immigration to the US was allowed to increase after 2001. This is how Omar became possible; this is why we have Dearbornistan.
    , @bomag
    Small pills can have a large effect.

    There's, what?, three mosques in New Zealand, and the place is turning inside out to cater.

    Ilhan Omar has affected more debate than 430 other reps.
    , @Louis Renault
    There are now almost as many Muslims in America as there are Jewish Americans. Lost on most is that the largest contingent are converts following Louis Farrakhan.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/03/new-estimates-show-u-s-muslim-population-continues-to-grow/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews

    Black+Hispanic+LGBTQ+liberal+Muslim means the left thinks they can discard Jews; at least the ones with power and influence in/with the current Democratic party leadership.
    , @AnotherDad

    Surely there are not enough Muslims in America to make them a group worth pursuing;
     
    Go to Costco on a Saturday.
    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    There are enough in a few states with high elector counts.
  6. But the Lord is not on their side.

    ‘I am confident the Lord is at work here’: Mike Pompeo says ‘it’s possible’ Trump is on a mission from God to save Israel from Iran as U.S. hits mullahs with MORE sanctions
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6839219/Mike-Pompeo-says-possible-Trump-mission-God-save-Israel-Iran.html

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Well, they've got a better car than Jake and Elmo, so maybe that's a sign.
    , @The Alarmist
    Trump and Pompeo: The New Blues Brothers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMoD2m5pzZU
    , @International Jew
    I don't think God's instrument of choice would be economic sanctions.
    , @Mr. Anon
    Does anybody really believe that Mike Pompeo - USMA graduate, Harvard Law Graduate, Harvard Law Review Editor, Williams & Connolly lawyer, and Koch-Brothers beneficiary - believes all that God talk? I rather tend to believe that Pompeo is a shamelessly cynical hack.

    One of those pictures from that Daily Mail article is pretty funny. It's the standard "Here I am at the wailing wall with my kippah, paying homage to my masters" photo. It appears as though there are hands guiding him. He has actual handlers. Go on, Mike. Touch the Wall. Kiss the Wall. It won't hurt. There you go. Good goy. Now we own you.

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/22/14/11326602-6839219-image-a-24_1553265394985.jpg

    Parenthetically I would note that Pompeo looks like "Norm" from Cheers
  7. We could shorten it to …………OW! ……Omar wins

  8. @anon
    The AIPAC conference is the holy of holys. The financial and media blessings of the global Jewish elite will go to the chosen few who most successfully kiss ass at this conference. To skip this conference is a brazen insult to those elites. The miscreants will be cursed and cast out of politics.
    These lefty upstarts who skip this conference are going to get a harsh lesson in Jewish reality.

    “These lefty upstarts who skip this conference are going to get a harsh lesson in Jewish reality.”

    Deus vult!

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    '“These lefty upstarts who skip this conference are going to get a harsh lesson in Jewish reality.”

    Deus vult!

    That's what just happened. I'm opening a good bottle of wine tonight.
  9. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Lots of interesting questions here:
    - Will Jewish voters switch to the Republican Party? Or at least stay home in 2020?
    - Will Jewish campaign contributions shift away from the Democrats in 2020?
    - Even if the answer to the above two questions is yes, will it impact the election?

    I can count the number of jewish people I’ve been acquainted with on my fingers, so I can’t opine on the question of how much jews are jewish vs. how much they are lefty’s.

    But jews being a neglible amount of the electorate, even NY, mean the real question is is the second one, which is will jews not be ponying up campaign cash for the 2020 election cycle? Since they fund about half of the dems national elections even a small amount could hurt Kamala or whoever. I’d bet somewhat of an impact, but jews are like blacks in that they view it as an article of faith that you have to be a dem voter.

    They’ve learned how to navigate the political waters even when the wind is seemingly against them, so I wouldn’t look for a big shift.

    • Replies: @M. Hartley
    Yep. It's not the number of voters you can bring to the polls, it's the number of politicians you can buy. Which number is somewhere between the vast majority and virtually all.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    The very philo-Semitic NYC radio show host Bob Grant used to say that Jews were genetically programmed to vote Democrat.
    , @Lot
    “I can count the number of jewish people I’ve been acquainted with on my fingers”

    South Texas is one of the least Jewish parts of the USA. I believe the very least is Oklahoma. (Though your Mexican population is about 5% Sephardi Jewish by blood, nearly 10% for your white Mexicans, but that mixing happened in the 1500s.)

    Per this chart, Texas as a whole is 0.6% Jewish compared to 2.1% for the whole USA:

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-population-in-the-united-states-by-state

    One interesting part of this chart is it also has Jewish population by state in 1899.

    For many states, the population declined. Some of this was people moving away, but the decline in places like Montana and Mississippi were mainly due to assimilation into the Christian population.

    , @Svigor

    I can count the number of jewish people I’ve been acquainted with on my fingers, so I can’t opine on the question of how much jews are jewish vs. how much they are lefty’s.
     
    I know what you mean. I've never been to the Moon, so I can't say whether it even has a surface.
    , @Colin Wright
    'They’ve learned how to navigate the political waters even when the wind is seemingly against them, so I wouldn’t look for a big shift.

    Perhaps not, but as Churchill said in the course of a previous struggle against evil, this may not be the beginning of the end, but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.

    Immediately, my expectation is that that Israel's going to quit riding high, wide, and handsome for a bit. The Zionists are going to retrench and make nice until they've stabilized the foundation. Look for a 'peace plan' calculated to be just barely unacceptable to their victims. A cut back on the gratuitous murders. Very mild criticism of Israel may be permitted for a bit.

    Still, maybe they'll be stupid. One can always hope.

  10. OT: I saw this in David Frum’s Twitter feed. “Link to rather testy interview with @NPR Morning Edition broadcast this AM re my immigration story”:

    ‘The Atlantic’: If Liberals Won’t Enforce Borders, Fascists Will
    March 22, 20195:05 AM ET
    Heard on Morning Edition

    Rachel Martin talks to David Frum, staff writer at The Atlantic and former speech writer for George W. Bush, about his essay proposing new limits on immigration.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/22/705729699/the-atlantic-if-liberals-wont-enforce-borders-fascists-will

    Hopefully Frum will have more influence on immigration policy here in Canada than he appears to be having in his preferred country. He does get invited to “respectable” events here. If he manages to get the Conservative Party to modify its support for our pyramid scheme immigration policy, then he will have done one useful thing in politics.

  11. “On Thursday, Trump announced in a historic step that the time has come for the US to recognize Israel’s sovereignty on the Golan Heights.”

    Why such hostility from so many Jews toward Donald Trump? He will readily grovel.

    And Trump must therefore accept Russia’s claims to Crimea. Does territory seized by force become one’s own? Does he think things through, or is everything a matter of impulse with him?

    • Replies: @El Dato

    Why such hostility from so many Jews toward Donald Trump? He will readily grovel.
     
    You have to keep the hostility up so that he grovels more. There is probably a Jewish Biblical Tale about grabbing someone's balls from behind to shake him down.

    Does he think things through, or is everything a matter of impulse with him?
     
    We will never know.
    , @Anonymous

    Why such hostility from so many Jews toward Donald Trump? He will readily grovel.
     
    Because their far bigger priorities are destroying White cohesion and destroying talented White ethnic groups.
    , @Mr. Anon

    And Trump must therefore accept Russia’s claims to Crimea. Does territory seized by force become one’s own? Does he think things through, or is everything a matter of impulse with him?
     
    I have no problem with the US recognizing both claims. Crimea was russian before, is essentially russian now. And the Golan heights are important to Israel's security. However I don't want America to get involved in guaranteeing anybody's grab of new territory.
    , @Bill Jones
    "And Trump must therefore accept Russia’s claims to Crimea. Does territory seized by force become one’s own?"

    You are stunningly ignorant. There is no semblance of similarity between the Golan Heights and Crimea.
    The people of Crimea voted - about 90% in favor, to secede from Ukraine and apply to admittance (actual re-admittance) to Russia.

    Where was there any "seizure by force"?
    On Golan.

    , @AnotherDad

    “On Thursday, Trump announced in a historic step that the time has come for the US to recognize Israel’s sovereignty on the Golan Heights.”
     
    Lemme see ...

    So we've got one party where the pols traditionally pledge allegiance to a foreign nation because it's of intense interest to a tiny tribal minority group that funds that party ... but are skipping it this year because ... it annoys another competing, smaller but faster growing, minority group.

    Or

    In the other party, the--supposedly "nationalist"--leader--our President--spends cycles to pledge support for said foreign nation in the disposition of its border disputes.... having just caved to the other party on protecting our own border.

    Oy vey!

    Imagine living in an actual healthy nation where politics does not revolve around the primitive ethnic resenetments of a tiny minority group and nor its allegiance to a small nation on the other side of the world ... but rather with the interests--the border, the security, the prosperity, the future of the people of the nation itself!

    Damn, that would be awesome!

    Just imagine!

  12. anon[166] • Disclaimer says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter
    Lots of interesting questions here:
    - Will Jewish voters switch to the Republican Party? Or at least stay home in 2020?
    - Will Jewish campaign contributions shift away from the Democrats in 2020?
    - Even if the answer to the above two questions is yes, will it impact the election?

    >Will Jewish voters switch to the Republican Party? Or at least stay home in 2020?

    No– they’ll still accept Dems as lesser of two evils until it’s something more than rhetoric. Will hold steady hoping things blow over.

    In the short/medium term the same thing will happen to the BDS wing of Dems as happens to immigration restrictionist R’s: lip service will be paid during campaign season then reversal/inaction during actual governance.

    > will it impact the election?

    More important impact would be in R party policy. It would become more cuckish than already is–renewed life for neo cons, billionaires/chamber of commerce factions.

    The whole “becoming the white party” is a Pyrrhic victory. By the time it happens, voting for the other party will be completely off the table. Thus, you’re locked-in: you have to swallow a lot of unacceptable stuff within your own party. And once there is no reasonable alternative choice (flipping your vote in the general) the elites can then use the party apparatus to garner even more power than they already wield in our nominally party-fluid present circumstances.

    • Replies: @bomag

    By the time it happens, voting for the other party will be completely off the table. Thus, you’re locked-in: you have to swallow a lot of unacceptable stuff within your own party.
     
    We pretty much have that now.

    When Elizabeth Warren promises 5 trillion in reparations, the Mitt Romneys on the R side promise 4.9 trillion and tout their economic conservatism.

    When Kamala Harris promises 2.4 million immigrants a year, the John McCains promise no more than 2.3 million and call themselves immigration restrictionists.

    Etc.

    It's a Coke-Pepsi game now. Maybe when things are starker, it will be more of an either/or game.

    , @Desiderius
    We’re already there and have been since 2009.
  13. @Reg Cæsar
    The feather, the dot, the fecal avocado, and Methuselah aren't going. The boring ones are.

    Anyone know if Dickenlooper will be there? I'd love to see him and Beto in a poetry-slam debate!

    Failed Rap Battles Of History!

  14. @utu
    But the Lord is not on their side.

    'I am confident the Lord is at work here': Mike Pompeo says 'it's possible' Trump is on a mission from God to save Israel from Iran as U.S. hits mullahs with MORE sanctions
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6839219/Mike-Pompeo-says-possible-Trump-mission-God-save-Israel-Iran.html

    Well, they’ve got a better car than Jake and Elmo, so maybe that’s a sign.

    • Replies: @njguy73
    Jake and Elwood.

    No red Muppets were in the Blues Brothers.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Wait, who are we talking about here?

    Elmo?

    https://www.peakstupidity.com/images/ELMO.jpg

    OR

    Elwood?

    https://www.peakstupidity.com/images/ELWOOD.jpg

    ;-}

    ... and good morning to you all!
  15. @jim jones
    Surely there are not enough Muslims in America to make them a group worth pursuing;

    We used to say the same thing about trannies. But we were wrong.

    • Agree: jim jones
  16. Anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    The AIPAC conference is the holy of holys. The financial and media blessings of the global Jewish elite will go to the chosen few who most successfully kiss ass at this conference. To skip this conference is a brazen insult to those elites. The miscreants will be cursed and cast out of politics.
    These lefty upstarts who skip this conference are going to get a harsh lesson in Jewish reality.

    These lefty upstarts who skip this conference are going to get a harsh lesson in Jewish reality.

    But it is a harbinger of things to come. There will come a time when the new imported masses simply won’t listen to the people who had assumed they would be their masters.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Dr. X
    The imported brown masses won't "listen" to their masters, they will be bought off with welfare, the cost of which will be merely added to the $22 trillion debt... money talks.
  17. Money talks, but air power shouts. The S-400 system in Syria pretty much negated anything Bibi wanted to do there, and as Nassan Nasrallah (also known as one of the adults in the room) has made clear, Israel’s stupid ploy to get Syrian land for itself will soon turn into a Russian plan to reclaim the headwaters of the Jordan River for Syria.

    Whereas (((they))) blister, shout, and brag about how powerful they are, SAA and RAF merely shoot to kill, one target at a time. Does no one here realize the game ended in 2015?

    Republican = deck chairs port side on the Titanic
    Democratic = deeck chairs strboard side.

    Russian and Chinese gold reserves and investment in ME, Venezuela and Africa = ice berg.

    Put another way, Benjamins may talk, but compared to the sound gold makes, no one will listen.

    • LOL: IHTG
    • Troll: Ibound1
    • Replies: @Lot
    “Benjamins may talk, but compared to the sound gold makes, no one will listen.”

    I love it, a combined Putinbot, Muslimist, China Troll, Anti-Semite, Chavista, AND Goldbug.

    Good work sir.
  18. @utu
    But the Lord is not on their side.

    'I am confident the Lord is at work here': Mike Pompeo says 'it's possible' Trump is on a mission from God to save Israel from Iran as U.S. hits mullahs with MORE sanctions
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6839219/Mike-Pompeo-says-possible-Trump-mission-God-save-Israel-Iran.html

    Trump and Pompeo: The New Blues Brothers.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    LOL
  19. @jim jones
    Surely there are not enough Muslims in America to make them a group worth pursuing;

    “Surely there are not enough Muslims in America to make them a group worth pursuing….”

    You haven’t been paying attention. Muslim immigration to the US was allowed to increase after 2001. This is how Omar became possible; this is why we have Dearbornistan.

    • Replies: @SBaker
    Actually there are quite a number of muslim posters on this site. Inbred Omar has captured the hearts and minds of them all. She/it is their new hero even if she was genitally mutilated.
    , @Ian M.
    No, Dearborn has had a large Muslim population long before 2001. I grew up there.
  20. Russian plan to reclaim the headwaters of the Jordan River for Syria

    That’s adorable.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    Israel has been neutered.
    , @Lot
    Syria will get right on that after it stops massacres of its own citizens and civil warring and achieves Sunni-Shiite and Arab-Turk internal peace. Any day now soon that will happen.

    Putinbots are so aroused now that Assad has the latest Russian equipment. Hmm, what happened the last time an Assad led Syrians with the latest Russian equipment:

    “Once the SAM crews fired missiles at the drones, the F-15s and F-16s provided air cover while F-4 Phantoms attacked the SAM batteries, destroying them with AGM-78 and AGM-45 anti-radiation missiles. The rapid flight time of the missiles minimized the F-4s' exposure to the SAMs. The Syrians reportedly fired 57 SA-6s, to no effect.

    By noon on Friday, when the ceasefire took effect, the IAF had shot down 82 aircraft without losing any in air combat.

    In 1991, Ivry met a Czech general who had been serving in Moscow in 1982. He told Ivry that the operation made the Soviets understand that Western technology was superior to theirs, and that in his view, the blow to the Beqaa Valley SAMs was an impetus to Glasnost and the Soviet Union's collapse.“

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1wP0LfrhGU

    http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2002/June%202002/0602bekaa.aspx
  21. “Surely there are not enough Muslims in America.” There aren’t enough Jews in Vermont, but Sanders was elected over and over. My guess is a Muslim would be considered an honorary non white by most of the electorate. Muslims might also be popular with typical American Whites as they are religious but not one of those religions with some sort of scandal or end of the world eschatology. I think brand White and brand Jewish are tarnished. Obama destroyed the Black branding. That leaves Muslims and Asians.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    “Pew Research Center estimates that there were about 3.45 million Muslims of all ages living in the U.S. in 2017, and that Muslims made up about 1.1% of the total U.S. population.

    “Muslims in the U.S. are not as numerous as the number of Americans who identify as Jewish by religion, according to our estimate. At the same time, our projections suggest that the U.S. Muslim population will grow much faster than the country’s Jewish population. By 2040, Muslims will replace Jews as the nation’s second-largest religious group after Christians. And by 2050, the U.S. Muslim population is projected to reach 8.1 million, or 2.1% of the nation’s total population — nearly twice the share of today.”

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/03/new-estimates-show-u-s-muslim-population-continues-to-grow/
    , @donut
    They do have a whole lot of Hadiths and sayings of the prophet SBUH regarding the last days . In one he says that in the last days the barefoot Arabs of the desert will compete with each other in raising tall buildings , in another he states that in the last days a man will kill another man and the neither man who kills nor the man who is killed will know why . And of course there is my personal favorite :

    Narrated Abu Huraira:
    Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    "Muslims might also be popular with typical American Whites"

    Especially whites with short memories?
    , @IC8
    "Muslims might also be popular with typical American Whites as they are religious but not one of those religions with some sort of scandal or end of the world eschatology. I think brand White and brand Jewish are tarnished. Obama destroyed the Black branding. That leaves Muslims and Asians."

    Your comments are consistently bizarrely disconnected from reality. What bizarro-universe are you living in where Muslims are "popular with typical American Whites". Muslims are by far the most disliked religious group in America (and for good reason). Evangelicals are a distant second. Also, Muslims have no "scandals"!? They've literally murdered thousands of Americans in terrorist attacks.
  22. @jim jones
    Surely there are not enough Muslims in America to make them a group worth pursuing;

    Small pills can have a large effect.

    There’s, what?, three mosques in New Zealand, and the place is turning inside out to cater.

    Ilhan Omar has affected more debate than 430 other reps.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    "We've always been at war with East Asia."

    The manifesto has been banned in New Zealand. Diversity if our new God and blasphemers will be punished.

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/435416-new-zealand-bans-possession-distribution-of-shooting-suspects
    , @a reader

    There’s, what?, three mosques in New Zealand
     
    Unfortunately...
  23. @utu
    But the Lord is not on their side.

    'I am confident the Lord is at work here': Mike Pompeo says 'it's possible' Trump is on a mission from God to save Israel from Iran as U.S. hits mullahs with MORE sanctions
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6839219/Mike-Pompeo-says-possible-Trump-mission-God-save-Israel-Iran.html

    I don’t think God’s instrument of choice would be economic sanctions.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    I don’t think God’s instrument of choice would be economic sanctions.
     
    This isn't the Old Testament--kill them all! women, children oxen and asses--god.

    This is a New Age, somewhat rainbow tinged god, who works with policy papers, negotiations, economic sanctions--and ocassional drone strikes.
  24. @The Alarmist

    "Surely there are not enough Muslims in America to make them a group worth pursuing...."
     
    You haven't been paying attention. Muslim immigration to the US was allowed to increase after 2001. This is how Omar became possible; this is why we have Dearbornistan.

    Actually there are quite a number of muslim posters on this site. Inbred Omar has captured the hearts and minds of them all. She/it is their new hero even if she was genitally mutilated.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Gordo

    She/it is their new hero even if she was genitally mutilated.
     
    I suspect many of the men commenting here are also genitally mutilated.

    It has not done them any favours.
    , @stillCARealist
    She was mutilated? How do you know that? And how do you know she was inbred?

    Reading her Wikipedia page makes her look like a standard Commie Muslim with a big mouth. She was born to rule and now she's exercising that privilege.

    Also, her marital life is pretty unique. Not a very consistently moral woman for a Muslim.
    , @Colin Wright
    ' She/it is their new hero even if she was genitally mutilated...'

    The mutilation must have been relatively minor. It's apparent she's the only one in Congress with any balls.
  25. @anon
    >Will Jewish voters switch to the Republican Party? Or at least stay home in 2020?

    No-- they'll still accept Dems as lesser of two evils until it's something more than rhetoric. Will hold steady hoping things blow over.

    In the short/medium term the same thing will happen to the BDS wing of Dems as happens to immigration restrictionist R's: lip service will be paid during campaign season then reversal/inaction during actual governance.

    > will it impact the election?

    More important impact would be in R party policy. It would become more cuckish than already is--renewed life for neo cons, billionaires/chamber of commerce factions.

    The whole "becoming the white party" is a Pyrrhic victory. By the time it happens, voting for the other party will be completely off the table. Thus, you're locked-in: you have to swallow a lot of unacceptable stuff within your own party. And once there is no reasonable alternative choice (flipping your vote in the general) the elites can then use the party apparatus to garner even more power than they already wield in our nominally party-fluid present circumstances.

    By the time it happens, voting for the other party will be completely off the table. Thus, you’re locked-in: you have to swallow a lot of unacceptable stuff within your own party.

    We pretty much have that now.

    When Elizabeth Warren promises 5 trillion in reparations, the Mitt Romneys on the R side promise 4.9 trillion and tout their economic conservatism.

    When Kamala Harris promises 2.4 million immigrants a year, the John McCains promise no more than 2.3 million and call themselves immigration restrictionists.

    Etc.

    It’s a Coke-Pepsi game now. Maybe when things are starker, it will be more of an either/or game.

    • Replies: @Louis Renault
    It may be a Coke-Pepsi game but we all know who gets stuck with the Tab.
  26. @South Texas Guy
    I can count the number of jewish people I've been acquainted with on my fingers, so I can't opine on the question of how much jews are jewish vs. how much they are lefty's.

    But jews being a neglible amount of the electorate, even NY, mean the real question is is the second one, which is will jews not be ponying up campaign cash for the 2020 election cycle? Since they fund about half of the dems national elections even a small amount could hurt Kamala or whoever. I'd bet somewhat of an impact, but jews are like blacks in that they view it as an article of faith that you have to be a dem voter.

    They've learned how to navigate the political waters even when the wind is seemingly against them, so I wouldn't look for a big shift.

    Yep. It’s not the number of voters you can bring to the polls, it’s the number of politicians you can buy. Which number is somewhere between the vast majority and virtually all.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    Yeah but what happens when we start combining the two? It's not like there's a physical law against the little guy bundling together big fat bribes and handing them to pols. Strictly speaking, the little guy is capable of outspending the fat cats. The problem is organization, security, etc., which become a lot more complicated when you have that many people involved in the decision-making.

    Of course, traditionally the problem has been "oh the fat cat bribes your middle man, too," but what happens when we cut out the middle man?

    , @Anonymous
    Votes are one sort of power. Money is another. Mobs in the streets are yet another. The latter two are both 'undemocratic' but for complicated reasons only one is denounced as such. It's a mystery.
  27. @International Jew
    I don't think God's instrument of choice would be economic sanctions.

    I don’t think God’s instrument of choice would be economic sanctions.

    This isn’t the Old Testament–kill them all! women, children oxen and asses–god.

    This is a New Age, somewhat rainbow tinged god, who works with policy papers, negotiations, economic sanctions–and ocassional drone strikes.

    • Replies: @donut
    "This isn’t the Old Testament–kill them all! women, children oxen and asses–god."

    You think not ?
    , @Lot
    “This is a New Age, somewhat rainbow tinged god, who works with policy papers, negotiations, economic sanctions–and ocassional drone strikes.”

    Archangel Michael was an early proponent of airpower.

    Here Sir Jacob Epstein’s 1950s sculpture of St Michael’s Victory in Coventry, England.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Cathedral_St_Michaels_Victory.jpg

    Too modern for my taste. This German 19th Century one is the best, by August Kiss:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/St_Michael_Berlin_Engel_Statue_Kiss.JPG

    St. Michael in art is kind of disappointing. Some top tier artists have depicted him, but none that well. In many he looks girly. Modern folk art paintings are better, like this:

    https://www.catholicgentleman.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/st-michael-the-archangel.jpg
  28. @Paul
    "On Thursday, Trump announced in a historic step that the time has come for the US to recognize Israel’s sovereignty on the Golan Heights."


    Why such hostility from so many Jews toward Donald Trump? He will readily grovel.

    And Trump must therefore accept Russia's claims to Crimea. Does territory seized by force become one's own? Does he think things through, or is everything a matter of impulse with him?

    Why such hostility from so many Jews toward Donald Trump? He will readily grovel.

    You have to keep the hostility up so that he grovels more. There is probably a Jewish Biblical Tale about grabbing someone’s balls from behind to shake him down.

    Does he think things through, or is everything a matter of impulse with him?

    We will never know.

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    There is probably a Jewish Biblical Tale about grabbing someone’s balls from behind to shake him down.
     
    There is.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_wrestling_with_the_angel

    It’s actually where the name Israel (“contends with God”) comes from. Jacob’s grabs God’s thigh (i.e. balls). Now whether he shakes Him down is a matter of interpretation.
  29. @The Alarmist
    Trump and Pompeo: The New Blues Brothers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMoD2m5pzZU

    LOL

  30. Anonymous[379] • Disclaimer says:
    @Stogumber
    Jeremy Corbyn was for a long time seen as an isolated British problem. And the "Guardian" orchestrated a seemingly successful campaign against him (damaging his image in the public, albeit not in the party).
    But now Corbyn looks more like a forerunner of a general trend. And will the NYT be able to orchestrate such a successful campaign against a Democrat leader as the "Guardian" against a Labour leader?

    The Guardian is pro-Corbyn.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    "The Guardian is pro-Corbyn."
     
    Cobblers. The Guardian was pro-Corbyn in the days when the IRA leadership were round to tea i.e. when his ever becoming Labour leader was unthinkable.

    When he became leader the campaign against him started.

    "We don't give a crap about his friendship withe the IRA, but he once shared a platform with Hamas!"

    Same with Ken Livingstone, former GLC leader in the Thatcher years. When he was upsetting Tories he was great. When he spoke for the Palestinians he was suddenly that embarrassing uncle at the family party.

    (My view is that it's not our scrap, we have no more paratroopers to drop on Suez, and benevolent neutrality should be our policy.)
  31. Omar, Tlaib, and AOC have the potential to be hugely beneficial to the right and we should hope 2020 ushers in more Democrats who think like them. As Steve points out, the left’s coalition is held together by hatred directed outward at whites, but the beauty of Omar and AOC is that they are trigging intra-left infighting. It’s going to take an internal battle to tear apart the left, the right cannot do it from outside.

    • Replies: @Anon
    With all due respect: you think that communists and Muslims, both Jewish creations along with the modern Left, are ultimately going to hurt the Left for the benefit of the Right?

    No. These are transitionary Leftists. The first minor further-Left sinewave in response to Trump, who was himself a (nominal) transitionary-wave response to the further-Left Obama. Just as occurred in the post WWI period, Leftist extremist politics are causing reactions and then there are counter reactions. You're only witnessing transition pains.

    In the next decade or two at minimum (but perhaps much sooner), you'll witness a fundamental transformation of the democrats to a full-on neo-communist technocrat party rather than the slow moving (to communism) Jewish Neocon party that is now is.

    Don't cheer these people on. Centrism at least means no outright communist oppression. Once they gain full power, the Leninists will be back in full control, as was always the plan of the Neocons, and there will be no more soft oppression but rather a full return of new and much improved Semitic-communist oppression system of Whites. The empowered new-majority will be the eternal victims of the dis-empowered new-minority (Whites) and justify their oppression of us from that narrative.

    The only hope is to fight all of it without concessions to Jews. If we can stall Jew-incited world war long enough to do that. Right Wing Judaism wants our destruction as much or maybe even more than the Left (Left Wing Judaism being an Oxymoron). This fact has to be hammered into the public consciousness.
  32. @Anonymous

    These lefty upstarts who skip this conference are going to get a harsh lesson in Jewish reality.
     
    But it is a harbinger of things to come. There will come a time when the new imported masses simply won't listen to the people who had assumed they would be their masters.

    The imported brown masses won’t “listen” to their masters, they will be bought off with welfare, the cost of which will be merely added to the $22 trillion debt… money talks.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    Are we to believe there are not a whole horde of white trash losers living on welfare? Yeah, right!
  33. @IHTG

    Russian plan to reclaim the headwaters of the Jordan River for Syria
     
    That's adorable.

    Israel has been neutered.

  34. Let’s wait to see what the contribution totals from Jewish groups are for each candidate before we decide whether this truancy is anything more than calculated politicking.

    • Agree: donut
  35. @George
    "Surely there are not enough Muslims in America." There aren't enough Jews in Vermont, but Sanders was elected over and over. My guess is a Muslim would be considered an honorary non white by most of the electorate. Muslims might also be popular with typical American Whites as they are religious but not one of those religions with some sort of scandal or end of the world eschatology. I think brand White and brand Jewish are tarnished. Obama destroyed the Black branding. That leaves Muslims and Asians.

    “Pew Research Center estimates that there were about 3.45 million Muslims of all ages living in the U.S. in 2017, and that Muslims made up about 1.1% of the total U.S. population.

    “Muslims in the U.S. are not as numerous as the number of Americans who identify as Jewish by religion, according to our estimate. At the same time, our projections suggest that the U.S. Muslim population will grow much faster than the country’s Jewish population. By 2040, Muslims will replace Jews as the nation’s second-largest religious group after Christians. And by 2050, the U.S. Muslim population is projected to reach 8.1 million, or 2.1% of the nation’s total population — nearly twice the share of today.”

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/03/new-estimates-show-u-s-muslim-population-continues-to-grow/

  36. Anonymous[302] • Disclaimer says:

    Some of the Democratic candidates for the US presidential elections said on Thursday they would not attend the annual AIPAC conference in Washington, D.C. next week.

    A win for these United States.

  37. Anonymous[302] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paul
    "On Thursday, Trump announced in a historic step that the time has come for the US to recognize Israel’s sovereignty on the Golan Heights."


    Why such hostility from so many Jews toward Donald Trump? He will readily grovel.

    And Trump must therefore accept Russia's claims to Crimea. Does territory seized by force become one's own? Does he think things through, or is everything a matter of impulse with him?

    Why such hostility from so many Jews toward Donald Trump? He will readily grovel.

    Because their far bigger priorities are destroying White cohesion and destroying talented White ethnic groups.

  38. @jim jones
    Surely there are not enough Muslims in America to make them a group worth pursuing;

    There are now almost as many Muslims in America as there are Jewish Americans. Lost on most is that the largest contingent are converts following Louis Farrakhan.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/03/new-estimates-show-u-s-muslim-population-continues-to-grow/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews

    Black+Hispanic+LGBTQ+liberal+Muslim means the left thinks they can discard Jews; at least the ones with power and influence in/with the current Democratic party leadership.

  39. @SBaker
    Actually there are quite a number of muslim posters on this site. Inbred Omar has captured the hearts and minds of them all. She/it is their new hero even if she was genitally mutilated.

    She/it is their new hero even if she was genitally mutilated.

    I suspect many of the men commenting here are also genitally mutilated.

    It has not done them any favours.

    • Replies: @donut
    OT : when I was in nursing school there was once an older black gentleman admitted who for whatever reason every one assumed was sort of AFK . He had , I am told an enormous member . So word got around and throughout one shift the female staff would make their way to the pts. room to lift the sheet and see for themselves . It turns out that he wasn't as out of it as they thought . After a good number of sightseers had come by he finally said to one of them "you girls should be ashamed of yourselves" .
  40. When people have repressed resentments, they can turn fast. Dam breaks. Once the dam breaks, the reservoir is never getting filled again. That’s what’s going to happen here with the Dems and the Jews and Israel. It doesnt matter who wins the election in Israel. Trump is having a good time trying to get some of the fund raising turned off.

  41. @bomag

    By the time it happens, voting for the other party will be completely off the table. Thus, you’re locked-in: you have to swallow a lot of unacceptable stuff within your own party.
     
    We pretty much have that now.

    When Elizabeth Warren promises 5 trillion in reparations, the Mitt Romneys on the R side promise 4.9 trillion and tout their economic conservatism.

    When Kamala Harris promises 2.4 million immigrants a year, the John McCains promise no more than 2.3 million and call themselves immigration restrictionists.

    Etc.

    It's a Coke-Pepsi game now. Maybe when things are starker, it will be more of an either/or game.

    It may be a Coke-Pepsi game but we all know who gets stuck with the Tab.

  42. AIPAC thinks they can reel these D-politicians back into the fold by money and pressure once elected. But as the decades have rolled by, more thoughtful and curious Americans have realized the corrupting influence that AIPAC has had on the American republic. The game is changing, and APAIC had better stop doubling down and start compromising more.

  43. It Has Been Reported That US House Rep. And Presidential Candidate, TULSI GABBARD, Will Not Be Attending The Annual American Israel Public Affairs Committee Meeting Set To Begin March 24, 2019.

    Young puppy scribbler, Michael Tracey, in a Tweet, sees fit to just use Tulsi when the full TULSI GABBARD is in order. Living on Tulsi time, Tracey?

    This Tracey guy is an overly sensitive reporter who almost had a breakdown when he saw a picture of Kirsten Gillibrand doing butterfly curls. Didn’t reporters used to be hard-bitten guys who drank whiskey and cast a cold eye on the wicked and horrible ways of the world?

    For a reporter and writer who has a cynical, world-weary style, it seemed out of character for Michael Tracey to react to Gillibrand’s ostentatious display of her butterfly curl technique in a manner similar to Oliver Reed’s character’s reaction in the final scene of the movie Burnt Offerings when he swan dives through an upper floor window, or is thrown out, by the spirit-possessed character of Mrs. Allardyce as played by Karen Black.

    Michael Tracey’s Reaction To The Butterfly Curl Girl Kirsten Gillibrand:

  44. bored identity would just like to clarify, for the few- if any at all- on this forum, <i.non-professional, Hebrew challenged commentators that the original reads on the left billboard “The nation of Israel lives” and on the right billboard “Kahana Lives” in a reference to a banned ultranationalist party in the 1994:

    But seriously, what kind of anti-semiotic Israeli Central Elections Committee approved this shandful zikh-opnar ?

    bored identity smells fartsveyflung on both sides.

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    The "good guys" are these serious men in Western suits? And the "bad guys" are smirking slobs with beards and wearing the traditional men's head covering (kippah)?

    How distant is that portrayal of Likud from those Mardi Gras caricatures in Liege?

    Anyone else doing this would have to answer for anti-semitism? And Israelis do this kind of thing -- to themselves?
    , @donut
    The bill board on the right (no pun ...) looks like a 1930s NAZI caricature of the "Eternal Jew" .
  45. The word is that the Tulsi Gabbard campaign needs people to donate a dollar or more to Tulsi Gabbard so Gabbard can qualify to be in the Democrat Party presidential primary debates. Gabbard needs to get 65,000 individual donors in 20 or more states to qualify for the debates. Gabbard is a veteran of the US military who served in George W Bush’s Iraq War debacle and she is pledging to keep the United States out of unnecessary wars that do not advance the national security interests of the USA.

    Michael Tracey is reporting on presidential candidate TULSI GABBARD in NEW HAMPSHIRE.

    Tulsi Gabbard is a solid woman of reserve and dignity and she won’t jump onto a counter like that hyperactive and spastic Ritalin kid Beta O’Rourke.

    • Replies: @donut
    Could she be a credible threat to Trump ? Or might she do better to move right on immigration and gun control downplay "women's" issues switch to the GOP and challenge Trump , then support him for 2020 and position herself for a 2024 run as the Republican candidate ?
    , @res
    More at https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/candidates-reach-for-the-magic-ticket-to-democratic-debates-65000-donors/2019/03/19/9a1f80e0-4a4b-11e9-9663-00ac73f49662_story.html

    It seems like it might be worth a few dollars to get Gabbard and Yang (any others?) into the Democratic debates. I wonder how much opportunity the debaters will have to influence the topics discussed.
  46. Democrats snub AIPAC, could this be the start of the Chexodus?

  47. @James Speaks
    Money talks, but air power shouts. The S-400 system in Syria pretty much negated anything Bibi wanted to do there, and as Nassan Nasrallah (also known as one of the adults in the room) has made clear, Israel's stupid ploy to get Syrian land for itself will soon turn into a Russian plan to reclaim the headwaters of the Jordan River for Syria.

    Whereas (((they))) blister, shout, and brag about how powerful they are, SAA and RAF merely shoot to kill, one target at a time. Does no one here realize the game ended in 2015?

    Republican = deck chairs port side on the Titanic
    Democratic = deeck chairs strboard side.

    Russian and Chinese gold reserves and investment in ME, Venezuela and Africa = ice berg.

    Put another way, Benjamins may talk, but compared to the sound gold makes, no one will listen.

    “Benjamins may talk, but compared to the sound gold makes, no one will listen.”

    I love it, a combined Putinbot, Muslimist, China Troll, Anti-Semite, Chavista, AND Goldbug.

    Good work sir.

    • Replies: @donut
    Yeah , we're crackpots to a man right Lot ? Maybe so but you're known by the company you keep . BTW I'm personally offended that you left NAZIs out .
    , @James Speaks

    I love it, a combined Putinbot, Muslimist, China Troll, Anti-Semite, Chavista, AND Goldbug.
     
    Shorter Lot: I love poetry.

    Capice this: Southern Democrat and Christian; when a European who lays claim to ancient ancestry (not) calls me anti-Semite, that is rich. It's like the pot holder calling the kettle black.
  48. I can think up a pretty broad range definitions for “wins” here, without trying too hard.

    E.g.,

    Scenario 1, AIPAC is seething because the Democrats are publicly shunning them.

    Scenario 2, AIPAC is peeved because they had to optics-cuck this year, tell their bitches not to come in and bend the knee for the cameras, because of the political climate in general, and Omar in particular. Some extra heat this year, but otherwise, business as usual.

    On the other hand, an awful lot of Dem candidates have jumped on the “no corporate PAC money” bandwagon this year.

    On the other, other hand, AIPAC’s donations have long been carefully laundered…

    • Replies: @Svigor
    Like I said, business as usual. It was strictly about the optics. Happy merchants probably got thrills up their legs from the subterfuge, made sure to put dim lighting and extra cigar smoke in their back rooms.

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/after-boycott-claims-four-democratic-presidential-hopefuls-meet-aipac-delegates

    After 'Boycott' Claims, Four Democratic Presidential Candidates Meet AIPAC Delegates

    Corey Booker, Kamala Harris, Kirsten Gillibrand and Amy Klobuchar all met with delegations of AIPAC activists from their home states in Washington

    WASHINGTON – Four Democratic Senators who are seeking their party’s presidential nomination in 2020, met this week with delegations of AIPAC activists from their home states. The meetings took place after eight presidential candidates announced they would not attend AIPAC’s conference, which took place this week in Washington.
     

  49. Anon[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arclight
    Omar, Tlaib, and AOC have the potential to be hugely beneficial to the right and we should hope 2020 ushers in more Democrats who think like them. As Steve points out, the left's coalition is held together by hatred directed outward at whites, but the beauty of Omar and AOC is that they are trigging intra-left infighting. It's going to take an internal battle to tear apart the left, the right cannot do it from outside.

    With all due respect: you think that communists and Muslims, both Jewish creations along with the modern Left, are ultimately going to hurt the Left for the benefit of the Right?

    No. These are transitionary Leftists. The first minor further-Left sinewave in response to Trump, who was himself a (nominal) transitionary-wave response to the further-Left Obama. Just as occurred in the post WWI period, Leftist extremist politics are causing reactions and then there are counter reactions. You’re only witnessing transition pains.

    In the next decade or two at minimum (but perhaps much sooner), you’ll witness a fundamental transformation of the democrats to a full-on neo-communist technocrat party rather than the slow moving (to communism) Jewish Neocon party that is now is.

    Don’t cheer these people on. Centrism at least means no outright communist oppression. Once they gain full power, the Leninists will be back in full control, as was always the plan of the Neocons, and there will be no more soft oppression but rather a full return of new and much improved Semitic-communist oppression system of Whites. The empowered new-majority will be the eternal victims of the dis-empowered new-minority (Whites) and justify their oppression of us from that narrative.

    The only hope is to fight all of it without concessions to Jews. If we can stall Jew-incited world war long enough to do that. Right Wing Judaism wants our destruction as much or maybe even more than the Left (Left Wing Judaism being an Oxymoron). This fact has to be hammered into the public consciousness.

  50. @anon
    >Will Jewish voters switch to the Republican Party? Or at least stay home in 2020?

    No-- they'll still accept Dems as lesser of two evils until it's something more than rhetoric. Will hold steady hoping things blow over.

    In the short/medium term the same thing will happen to the BDS wing of Dems as happens to immigration restrictionist R's: lip service will be paid during campaign season then reversal/inaction during actual governance.

    > will it impact the election?

    More important impact would be in R party policy. It would become more cuckish than already is--renewed life for neo cons, billionaires/chamber of commerce factions.

    The whole "becoming the white party" is a Pyrrhic victory. By the time it happens, voting for the other party will be completely off the table. Thus, you're locked-in: you have to swallow a lot of unacceptable stuff within your own party. And once there is no reasonable alternative choice (flipping your vote in the general) the elites can then use the party apparatus to garner even more power than they already wield in our nominally party-fluid present circumstances.

    We’re already there and have been since 2009.

  51. @M. Hartley
    Yep. It's not the number of voters you can bring to the polls, it's the number of politicians you can buy. Which number is somewhere between the vast majority and virtually all.

    Yeah but what happens when we start combining the two? It’s not like there’s a physical law against the little guy bundling together big fat bribes and handing them to pols. Strictly speaking, the little guy is capable of outspending the fat cats. The problem is organization, security, etc., which become a lot more complicated when you have that many people involved in the decision-making.

    Of course, traditionally the problem has been “oh the fat cat bribes your middle man, too,” but what happens when we cut out the middle man?

  52. @George
    "Surely there are not enough Muslims in America." There aren't enough Jews in Vermont, but Sanders was elected over and over. My guess is a Muslim would be considered an honorary non white by most of the electorate. Muslims might also be popular with typical American Whites as they are religious but not one of those religions with some sort of scandal or end of the world eschatology. I think brand White and brand Jewish are tarnished. Obama destroyed the Black branding. That leaves Muslims and Asians.

    They do have a whole lot of Hadiths and sayings of the prophet SBUH regarding the last days . In one he says that in the last days the barefoot Arabs of the desert will compete with each other in raising tall buildings , in another he states that in the last days a man will kill another man and the neither man who kills nor the man who is killed will know why . And of course there is my personal favorite :

    Narrated Abu Huraira:
    Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

  53. @AnotherDad

    I don’t think God’s instrument of choice would be economic sanctions.
     
    This isn't the Old Testament--kill them all! women, children oxen and asses--god.

    This is a New Age, somewhat rainbow tinged god, who works with policy papers, negotiations, economic sanctions--and ocassional drone strikes.

    “This isn’t the Old Testament–kill them all! women, children oxen and asses–god.”

    You think not ?

  54. @IHTG

    Russian plan to reclaim the headwaters of the Jordan River for Syria
     
    That's adorable.

    Syria will get right on that after it stops massacres of its own citizens and civil warring and achieves Sunni-Shiite and Arab-Turk internal peace. Any day now soon that will happen.

    Putinbots are so aroused now that Assad has the latest Russian equipment. Hmm, what happened the last time an Assad led Syrians with the latest Russian equipment:

    “Once the SAM crews fired missiles at the drones, the F-15s and F-16s provided air cover while F-4 Phantoms attacked the SAM batteries, destroying them with AGM-78 and AGM-45 anti-radiation missiles. The rapid flight time of the missiles minimized the F-4s’ exposure to the SAMs. The Syrians reportedly fired 57 SA-6s, to no effect.

    By noon on Friday, when the ceasefire took effect, the IAF had shot down 82 aircraft without losing any in air combat.

    In 1991, Ivry met a Czech general who had been serving in Moscow in 1982. He told Ivry that the operation made the Soviets understand that Western technology was superior to theirs, and that in his view, the blow to the Beqaa Valley SAMs was an impetus to Glasnost and the Soviet Union’s collapse.“

    http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2002/June%202002/0602bekaa.aspx

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Putinbots are so aroused now that Assad has the latest Russian equipment. Hmm, what happened the last time an Assad led Syrians with the latest Russian equipment:

    “Once the SAM crews fired missiles at the drones, the F-15s and F-16s provided air cover while F-4 Phantoms attacked the SAM batteries, destroying them with AGM-78 and AGM-45 anti-radiation missiles. The rapid flight time of the missiles minimized the F-4s’ exposure to the SAMs. The Syrians reportedly fired 57 SA-6s, to no effect.
     

    That was almost forty years ago. Back then, American warships mostly didn't crash into things too. That was back when all the fighter pilots were men, and they didn't fly LockMart pork-projects like the F-35. I would not so casually assume that russian military technology has not improved in all that time. The hallmark of modern American military thinking appears to be arrogance, self-satisfaction, and overreach.
    , @Peripatetic Commenter

    Syria will get right on that after it stops massacres of its own citizens and civil warring and achieves Sunni-Shiite and Arab-Turk internal peace. Any day now soon that will happen.

    Yeah. Not long after Trump stops being Putin's puppet and ceases colluding with Russia and so forth.

    Can you tell us all the conspiracy theories you believe in and those you don't?
     

     
    , @Autochthon
    To be sure, the Israelis are indomitable warriors with no equal in technology and mettle; thank goodness the F.U.S.A. allies with them, since they can clearly best any force in the world, even the formidible Russian military, all by thenselves.

    F-15s, F-16s, F-4s – wow! I never realised the astronomically improbable coincidence that the Israelis used alphanumeric designations exactly matching those of American aircraft.

    What's that? Oh....

    , @James Speaks

    Syria will get right on that after it stops massacres of its own citizens and civil warring and achieves Sunni-Shiite and Arab-Turk internal peace. Any day now soon that will happen.
     
    The only "nation" in the Levant that routinely murders its own citizens is Israel, only they pretend they aren't really citizens, just refugees who happen to have lived there, like for millennia.

    What Israel does is called genocide.

    , @Jack Hanson
    Whew. Purim has you all in a lather. Between accusing everyone saying the center cannot hold of "Turner Diaries", and insisting everyone having a Big Think regarding the Left and the Jews is a "Putinbot", you must be pulling down double shifts at Hasbara HQ.
  55. @Lot
    “Benjamins may talk, but compared to the sound gold makes, no one will listen.”

    I love it, a combined Putinbot, Muslimist, China Troll, Anti-Semite, Chavista, AND Goldbug.

    Good work sir.

    Yeah , we’re crackpots to a man right Lot ? Maybe so but you’re known by the company you keep . BTW I’m personally offended that you left NAZIs out .

    • Agree: James Speaks
    • Replies: @James Speaks

    Syria will get right on that after it stops massacres of its own citizens and civil warring and achieves Sunni-Shiite and Arab-Turk internal peace. Any day now soon that will happen.
     
    Lot's ilk can be known by their propensity to smear. It's who they are.
  56. Golan Heights: A great place to ski! Now officially recognized by the USA as part of Israel.

    • LOL: Z-man
  57. @Lot
    “Benjamins may talk, but compared to the sound gold makes, no one will listen.”

    I love it, a combined Putinbot, Muslimist, China Troll, Anti-Semite, Chavista, AND Goldbug.

    Good work sir.

    I love it, a combined Putinbot, Muslimist, China Troll, Anti-Semite, Chavista, AND Goldbug.

    Shorter Lot: I love poetry.

    Capice this: Southern Democrat and Christian; when a European who lays claim to ancient ancestry (not) calls me anti-Semite, that is rich. It’s like the pot holder calling the kettle black.

    • Replies: @Lot
    “Lays claim to ancient ancestry”

    If that is an allusion to the old Jihadi claim that European Jews are not related to the ancient Israelites, science has now refuted this. Ashkenazi are about 35-40% descended from them, Sephardi Jews even more.
  58. Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, former House of Representatives member Beto O’Rourke and Senator Kamala Harris of California, all of whom announced they would run for the Democratic primaries next year, decided not to attend the conference….

    I would wager that any of them who are still in the primaries this time next year will attend.

  59. Whereas an eeny-meany Benjamins trope brought mighty AJC to rope:

  60. @Paul
    "On Thursday, Trump announced in a historic step that the time has come for the US to recognize Israel’s sovereignty on the Golan Heights."


    Why such hostility from so many Jews toward Donald Trump? He will readily grovel.

    And Trump must therefore accept Russia's claims to Crimea. Does territory seized by force become one's own? Does he think things through, or is everything a matter of impulse with him?

    And Trump must therefore accept Russia’s claims to Crimea. Does territory seized by force become one’s own? Does he think things through, or is everything a matter of impulse with him?

    I have no problem with the US recognizing both claims. Crimea was russian before, is essentially russian now. And the Golan heights are important to Israel’s security. However I don’t want America to get involved in guaranteeing anybody’s grab of new territory.

  61. @South Texas Guy
    I can count the number of jewish people I've been acquainted with on my fingers, so I can't opine on the question of how much jews are jewish vs. how much they are lefty's.

    But jews being a neglible amount of the electorate, even NY, mean the real question is is the second one, which is will jews not be ponying up campaign cash for the 2020 election cycle? Since they fund about half of the dems national elections even a small amount could hurt Kamala or whoever. I'd bet somewhat of an impact, but jews are like blacks in that they view it as an article of faith that you have to be a dem voter.

    They've learned how to navigate the political waters even when the wind is seemingly against them, so I wouldn't look for a big shift.

    The very philo-Semitic NYC radio show host Bob Grant used to say that Jews were genetically programmed to vote Democrat.

  62. @Paul
    "On Thursday, Trump announced in a historic step that the time has come for the US to recognize Israel’s sovereignty on the Golan Heights."


    Why such hostility from so many Jews toward Donald Trump? He will readily grovel.

    And Trump must therefore accept Russia's claims to Crimea. Does territory seized by force become one's own? Does he think things through, or is everything a matter of impulse with him?

    “And Trump must therefore accept Russia’s claims to Crimea. Does territory seized by force become one’s own?”

    You are stunningly ignorant. There is no semblance of similarity between the Golan Heights and Crimea.
    The people of Crimea voted – about 90% in favor, to secede from Ukraine and apply to admittance (actual re-admittance) to Russia.

    Where was there any “seizure by force”?
    On Golan.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    That's like the Falklands. A lot of people say they belong to Argentina, but the residents are overwhelmingly British and don't want to be a part of Argentina.
    , @Hark hark the snark
    “...Seizure by force...On Golan.” In response to the attack on Israel by Syria.

    Expansion of borders after a nation wins a war has happened throughout history. For instance, the U.S. defeat of Mexico in a 19th century war led to the annexation of California.
    , @anonymous
    Since simply staking claim (however illegal) to the land of others is enough, I take immense pleasure that so many unwanted immigrants are staking claim to your lands.

    In fact more and more Syrians, Palestinians, Libyans and heck everybody else, should make their way to Europe. Your lands are their lands now.

    Who gives a crap about the Golan Heights, when the whole of Europe is up for grabs. ;) Rofl!

  63. This is all being driven by POC rising in the Democratic party. The truth is that Jews have little hard power. Their power is almost entirely their ability to manipulate white Europeans. No other group has any real susceptibility to Jewish demands for special treatment, only us.

    An influx of Israel First liberals into the GOP will be the end of any possibility of the GOP becoming a vehicle for white interests.

    White Americans need to form our own ethno-nationalist political party like all European nations have. That party has to be explicitly pro-Palestine to prevent infiltration of neocon types.

  64. But if the GOP-affiliated Bibi loses on April 9th to the Democrat-affiliated Gen. Benny Gantz and his posse of Straight White Men, expect most American Democrats to kiss and make up over Israel.

    The Democrats know that it would be a waste of time trying to get AIPAC endorsement against Trump. Israel has already receive two huge and invaluable gifts from Uncle Trump’s first term, what might he be willing to give before leaves office? Its a good thing that Trump is in the good graces of Israel for everyone that voted for him.

  65. @South Texas Guy
    I can count the number of jewish people I've been acquainted with on my fingers, so I can't opine on the question of how much jews are jewish vs. how much they are lefty's.

    But jews being a neglible amount of the electorate, even NY, mean the real question is is the second one, which is will jews not be ponying up campaign cash for the 2020 election cycle? Since they fund about half of the dems national elections even a small amount could hurt Kamala or whoever. I'd bet somewhat of an impact, but jews are like blacks in that they view it as an article of faith that you have to be a dem voter.

    They've learned how to navigate the political waters even when the wind is seemingly against them, so I wouldn't look for a big shift.

    “I can count the number of jewish people I’ve been acquainted with on my fingers”

    South Texas is one of the least Jewish parts of the USA. I believe the very least is Oklahoma. (Though your Mexican population is about 5% Sephardi Jewish by blood, nearly 10% for your white Mexicans, but that mixing happened in the 1500s.)

    Per this chart, Texas as a whole is 0.6% Jewish compared to 2.1% for the whole USA:

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-population-in-the-united-states-by-state

    One interesting part of this chart is it also has Jewish population by state in 1899.

    For many states, the population declined. Some of this was people moving away, but the decline in places like Montana and Mississippi were mainly due to assimilation into the Christian population.

  66. @utu
    But the Lord is not on their side.

    'I am confident the Lord is at work here': Mike Pompeo says 'it's possible' Trump is on a mission from God to save Israel from Iran as U.S. hits mullahs with MORE sanctions
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6839219/Mike-Pompeo-says-possible-Trump-mission-God-save-Israel-Iran.html

    Does anybody really believe that Mike Pompeo – USMA graduate, Harvard Law Graduate, Harvard Law Review Editor, Williams & Connolly lawyer, and Koch-Brothers beneficiary – believes all that God talk? I rather tend to believe that Pompeo is a shamelessly cynical hack.

    One of those pictures from that Daily Mail article is pretty funny. It’s the standard “Here I am at the wailing wall with my kippah, paying homage to my masters” photo. It appears as though there are hands guiding him. He has actual handlers. Go on, Mike. Touch the Wall. Kiss the Wall. It won’t hurt. There you go. Good goy. Now we own you.

    Parenthetically I would note that Pompeo looks like “Norm” from Cheers

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    Does anybody really believe that Mike Pompeo – USMA graduate, Harvard Law Graduate, Harvard Law Review Editor, Williams & Connolly lawyer, and Koch-Brothers beneficiary – believes all that God talk?
     
    Yes.

    Your question betrays your (lack of) class.
  67. @South Texas Guy
    I can count the number of jewish people I've been acquainted with on my fingers, so I can't opine on the question of how much jews are jewish vs. how much they are lefty's.

    But jews being a neglible amount of the electorate, even NY, mean the real question is is the second one, which is will jews not be ponying up campaign cash for the 2020 election cycle? Since they fund about half of the dems national elections even a small amount could hurt Kamala or whoever. I'd bet somewhat of an impact, but jews are like blacks in that they view it as an article of faith that you have to be a dem voter.

    They've learned how to navigate the political waters even when the wind is seemingly against them, so I wouldn't look for a big shift.

    I can count the number of jewish people I’ve been acquainted with on my fingers, so I can’t opine on the question of how much jews are jewish vs. how much they are lefty’s.

    I know what you mean. I’ve never been to the Moon, so I can’t say whether it even has a surface.

  68. Happy Merchant is Far Right?

  69. Voting against Trump should be not only possible in 2020, but even irresistible.

    It might help me atone for past sins…

  70. Corey Booker and Joe Biden are rancid politician whores for the treasonous rats at AIPAC.

    Booker and Biden are two peas in a treasonous ZOGPAC pod.

    The American Israel Public Affairs Committee — also known as Zionist Occupied Government Political Action Committee — is a disgusting collection of anti-American treasonites who put the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States.

    Booker is bald and he shaves his head; Biden is bald and he took hair plug transplants from his armpits and had them surgically implanted into his bald scalp. Booker and Biden are treasonous politician whores who put the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States. That is TREASON!

  71. @Lot
    Syria will get right on that after it stops massacres of its own citizens and civil warring and achieves Sunni-Shiite and Arab-Turk internal peace. Any day now soon that will happen.

    Putinbots are so aroused now that Assad has the latest Russian equipment. Hmm, what happened the last time an Assad led Syrians with the latest Russian equipment:

    “Once the SAM crews fired missiles at the drones, the F-15s and F-16s provided air cover while F-4 Phantoms attacked the SAM batteries, destroying them with AGM-78 and AGM-45 anti-radiation missiles. The rapid flight time of the missiles minimized the F-4s' exposure to the SAMs. The Syrians reportedly fired 57 SA-6s, to no effect.

    By noon on Friday, when the ceasefire took effect, the IAF had shot down 82 aircraft without losing any in air combat.

    In 1991, Ivry met a Czech general who had been serving in Moscow in 1982. He told Ivry that the operation made the Soviets understand that Western technology was superior to theirs, and that in his view, the blow to the Beqaa Valley SAMs was an impetus to Glasnost and the Soviet Union's collapse.“

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1wP0LfrhGU

    http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2002/June%202002/0602bekaa.aspx

    Putinbots are so aroused now that Assad has the latest Russian equipment. Hmm, what happened the last time an Assad led Syrians with the latest Russian equipment:

    “Once the SAM crews fired missiles at the drones, the F-15s and F-16s provided air cover while F-4 Phantoms attacked the SAM batteries, destroying them with AGM-78 and AGM-45 anti-radiation missiles. The rapid flight time of the missiles minimized the F-4s’ exposure to the SAMs. The Syrians reportedly fired 57 SA-6s, to no effect.

    That was almost forty years ago. Back then, American warships mostly didn’t crash into things too. That was back when all the fighter pilots were men, and they didn’t fly LockMart pork-projects like the F-35. I would not so casually assume that russian military technology has not improved in all that time. The hallmark of modern American military thinking appears to be arrogance, self-satisfaction, and overreach.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Sure man, Russian tech is teh awesome.

    In reality, there are no peers:

    http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal11/10101-10200/gal10115-F-22-Chuang/01.jpg
    , @Svigor
    Don't forget treachery:

    Marine Corps commandant says deploying troops to the border poses ‘unacceptable risk’

    That's when they aren't saying crap like this:

    US general says no military threat on southern border

    God forbid these reprobates actually protect the United States; Israel and the military-industrial complex are all that matter, damnit.

    White American reverence for the military is way past its sell-by date. The brass is hopelessly corrupt, and the ranks need a good red-pilling.

  72. bored identity is mad as hell to learn that the Israel’s Supreme Court, by vote 8-1, had reversed previous decision of Israeli Central Elections Committee to allow leader of Jewish Power party, Michael Ben Ari participating in the country’s April 9. elections, as a part of Bibi’s Do The Right Thing coalition.

    If bored identity understood well, Otzma Yehudit’s (JP) focus on using renewable energy from exclusively local resources is quite similar to what SCE, PG&E, or Duke Energy are trying to achieve here in US .

    bored identity just doesn’t understand why would anyone prevent Steve Jobs from becoming a member of Knesset?

  73. @AnotherDad

    I don’t think God’s instrument of choice would be economic sanctions.
     
    This isn't the Old Testament--kill them all! women, children oxen and asses--god.

    This is a New Age, somewhat rainbow tinged god, who works with policy papers, negotiations, economic sanctions--and ocassional drone strikes.

    “This is a New Age, somewhat rainbow tinged god, who works with policy papers, negotiations, economic sanctions–and ocassional drone strikes.”

    Archangel Michael was an early proponent of airpower.

    Here Sir Jacob Epstein’s 1950s sculpture of St Michael’s Victory in Coventry, England.

    Too modern for my taste. This German 19th Century one is the best, by August Kiss:

    St. Michael in art is kind of disappointing. Some top tier artists have depicted him, but none that well. In many he looks girly. Modern folk art paintings are better, like this:

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    All of the statues of half-naked, winged men look gay. Gee, I wonder why that is? I wonder what kind of sculptor would be drawn to such a topic?

    Archangel Michael was an early proponent of airpower.
     
    By the way, St. Michael is the patron saint of the German nation, so I guess your team will have to find yourself another avatar.
    , @Simply Simon
    One of the great stories involving St Michael is John Milton's Paradise Lost. He describes the epic battle in which Michael and the good angels drive Lucifer and his cohorts out of Heaven. They are all thrown into the pits of Hell on which the entrance gate has a sign stating, " Hope is lost to all who enter here." But somehow Lucifer, who has been renamed Satan manages to escape and is free to plague human beings on the planet Earth.
  74. @Lot
    “This is a New Age, somewhat rainbow tinged god, who works with policy papers, negotiations, economic sanctions–and ocassional drone strikes.”

    Archangel Michael was an early proponent of airpower.

    Here Sir Jacob Epstein’s 1950s sculpture of St Michael’s Victory in Coventry, England.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Cathedral_St_Michaels_Victory.jpg

    Too modern for my taste. This German 19th Century one is the best, by August Kiss:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/St_Michael_Berlin_Engel_Statue_Kiss.JPG

    St. Michael in art is kind of disappointing. Some top tier artists have depicted him, but none that well. In many he looks girly. Modern folk art paintings are better, like this:

    https://www.catholicgentleman.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/st-michael-the-archangel.jpg

    All of the statues of half-naked, winged men look gay. Gee, I wonder why that is? I wonder what kind of sculptor would be drawn to such a topic?

    Archangel Michael was an early proponent of airpower.

    By the way, St. Michael is the patron saint of the German nation, so I guess your team will have to find yourself another avatar.

  75. @jim jones
    Surely there are not enough Muslims in America to make them a group worth pursuing;

    Surely there are not enough Muslims in America to make them a group worth pursuing;

    Go to Costco on a Saturday.

  76. @SBaker
    Actually there are quite a number of muslim posters on this site. Inbred Omar has captured the hearts and minds of them all. She/it is their new hero even if she was genitally mutilated.

    She was mutilated? How do you know that? And how do you know she was inbred?

    Reading her Wikipedia page makes her look like a standard Commie Muslim with a big mouth. She was born to rule and now she’s exercising that privilege.

    Also, her marital life is pretty unique. Not a very consistently moral woman for a Muslim.

    • Replies: @Sbaker
    She is a Somali, many of which are Inbred, her name is Somali Muslim for inbred and she is from a 3rd world dump. Genital mutilation is a Muslim tradition whether females like it or not. Just look at what Somalis have done with their own country and now we give them power to yield a similar result here.
  77. This seems pretty significant, that a major candidate would consider not kissing the ring. But even if one of them were to win, they would be brought to heel once in office. Just like what’s happened with Trump, and even happened to Obama to some extent. The idea of someone like Kamala or Beto resisting the deep state is totally laughable.

    The Israel lobby might even be happy to have it appear on the surface like their control isn’t absolute. Just like they were happy to let people assume neo-con foreign policy would be dead for several generations after Bush.

  78. I guess this another one of those stories that proves the trope of Jews and Israel being overly important in US politics is false. And given there are similar controversies taking place in the UK, I guess it also shows they are really unimportant in the UK too.

    Rush Limbaugh seemed excited about this yesterday. He seems to think that these candidates not showing up will somehow seal their fate in 2020.

    You notice the one thing we aren’t really discussing anymore; the border. It is literally being breached at will now, and our border agents are so overwhelmed that people are being released into the US. It’s actually worse now that it was when candidate Trump was running on shutting it down.

    It seems those south of the border took Trump for his campaign promises in early 2017, and their crossings dropped early in Trump’s tenure based upon the threat of what he campaigned on. But as time went on, they concluded Trump was not totally committed to the border, and so they began to come in again. They seemed to learn faster than a lot of Trump supporters that closing down the border was not happening. Many Trump supporters I talk to still think illegal crossings are down based upon those early reports in 2017.

    It seems in retrospect that one cannot talk tough on the border if one is not going to follow through. For it appears to have put a fear in those down south that the border might be closed, so they redouble their efforts to get in before that happens. And then when word gets back home that the crossing is really not that hard after all, and that you will be dropped off in the interior upon contact with US officials, that just stimulates more traffic.

    So ironically had Trump not promoted the fact he was shutting down the border, illegals would have just probably come in the numbers they were coming in the previous decade.

    It goes to show don’t make threats you can’t back up.

    PS. I know the media, democrats, GOPe and lower courts are all against him. But I still feel he did not put enough into the border early on. It is not all his fault. But he certainly did not help himself with his hires. Why is Kris Kobach not in his administration? Why is Kirstjen Nielsen instead?

    I won’t rehash anymore. I know he is facing monumental headwinds, but he has not used monumental effort on this issue either.

    • Agree: RebelWriter
    • Replies: @Ibound1
    Agree.
    He needed to have gone for the fence first (pun intended).
    , @Jack Hanson
    It amazes me that the Border Patrol has reverted to "own recognizance" (OR) releases directly from the station and all the oxygen in the room is being taken up discussing Israel.
  79. Are Gantz and his Israeli military junta really any more affiliated with American Democrats than Bibi is? As far as the matter of how to treat Palestinians is concerned (and this seems to be the core of the leftist objections to Israel), Gantz doesn’t even pretend to be any less anti-Palestinian than Bibi. He even posted a now notorious campaign video boasting of how he had run up the Palestinian body count and bombed parts of Gaza back into the stone age. He won’t be any more popular than Bibi is with Omar and any candidates of the Demos whom she influences.

  80. @istevefan
    I guess this another one of those stories that proves the trope of Jews and Israel being overly important in US politics is false. And given there are similar controversies taking place in the UK, I guess it also shows they are really unimportant in the UK too.

    Rush Limbaugh seemed excited about this yesterday. He seems to think that these candidates not showing up will somehow seal their fate in 2020.

    You notice the one thing we aren't really discussing anymore; the border. It is literally being breached at will now, and our border agents are so overwhelmed that people are being released into the US. It's actually worse now that it was when candidate Trump was running on shutting it down.

    It seems those south of the border took Trump for his campaign promises in early 2017, and their crossings dropped early in Trump's tenure based upon the threat of what he campaigned on. But as time went on, they concluded Trump was not totally committed to the border, and so they began to come in again. They seemed to learn faster than a lot of Trump supporters that closing down the border was not happening. Many Trump supporters I talk to still think illegal crossings are down based upon those early reports in 2017.

    It seems in retrospect that one cannot talk tough on the border if one is not going to follow through. For it appears to have put a fear in those down south that the border might be closed, so they redouble their efforts to get in before that happens. And then when word gets back home that the crossing is really not that hard after all, and that you will be dropped off in the interior upon contact with US officials, that just stimulates more traffic.

    So ironically had Trump not promoted the fact he was shutting down the border, illegals would have just probably come in the numbers they were coming in the previous decade.

    It goes to show don't make threats you can't back up.

    PS. I know the media, democrats, GOPe and lower courts are all against him. But I still feel he did not put enough into the border early on. It is not all his fault. But he certainly did not help himself with his hires. Why is Kris Kobach not in his administration? Why is Kirstjen Nielsen instead?

    I won't rehash anymore. I know he is facing monumental headwinds, but he has not used monumental effort on this issue either.

    Agree.
    He needed to have gone for the fence first (pun intended).

    • Replies: @istevefan
    Yep, for us that would have been a home run. The tax cut at best is a ground-out, double-play that might advance a runner, but kills the potential big inning.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell made sure that nothing would happen as far as the wall.
  81. @Lot
    Syria will get right on that after it stops massacres of its own citizens and civil warring and achieves Sunni-Shiite and Arab-Turk internal peace. Any day now soon that will happen.

    Putinbots are so aroused now that Assad has the latest Russian equipment. Hmm, what happened the last time an Assad led Syrians with the latest Russian equipment:

    “Once the SAM crews fired missiles at the drones, the F-15s and F-16s provided air cover while F-4 Phantoms attacked the SAM batteries, destroying them with AGM-78 and AGM-45 anti-radiation missiles. The rapid flight time of the missiles minimized the F-4s' exposure to the SAMs. The Syrians reportedly fired 57 SA-6s, to no effect.

    By noon on Friday, when the ceasefire took effect, the IAF had shot down 82 aircraft without losing any in air combat.

    In 1991, Ivry met a Czech general who had been serving in Moscow in 1982. He told Ivry that the operation made the Soviets understand that Western technology was superior to theirs, and that in his view, the blow to the Beqaa Valley SAMs was an impetus to Glasnost and the Soviet Union's collapse.“

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1wP0LfrhGU

    http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2002/June%202002/0602bekaa.aspx

    Syria will get right on that after it stops massacres of its own citizens and civil warring and achieves Sunni-Shiite and Arab-Turk internal peace. Any day now soon that will happen.

    Yeah. Not long after Trump stops being Putin’s puppet and ceases colluding with Russia and so forth.

    Can you tell us all the conspiracy theories you believe in and those you don’t?

  82. They’ve learned nothing and forgotten nothing.


  83. http://www.unz.com/isteve/ilhan-omar-wins-again/#comment-3110536

    “(Though your Mexican population is about 5% Sephardi Jewish by blood, nearly 10% for your white Mexicans, but that mixing happened in the 1500s.)”

    Mixing happened?

    bored identity wonders if there was anything your retconquistadoring crypto-ancestors wouldn’t happen to press against?

    • Replies: @Lot
    “your retconquistadoring crypto-ancestors”

    Not my ancestors, crypto or direct. I am Ashkenazi and NW European. No Sephardi or Iberian.
  84. Well it’s nice to see people stop kowtowing to AIPAC, but the way this came about (alien cultures bringing their old grudges into America while the old stock natives shuffle their feet uncomfortably…) raises some questions.

    Anyway have y’all given up on democracy yet? Electoral this and blue wave that and demographics this, everyone can see in our current system the situation is impossible for the historical American population, and we are headed towards ruin. There is no way out using the current system. Of course Plato could have told you this was going to happen, it is striking how accurately he describes the way a democracy implodes.

    America has now been a true democracy for, what, maybe 50 years? For much of its history the franchise was explicitly limited to property owning white men; then slowly expanded. In each case there was a lag between groups being given the vote and starting to vote their interests as a block. For example women got the franchise in the ’20s but their votes didn’t start diverging significantly from their co-ethnic males until at least 50 years later. Blacks got the franchise after the civil war but were practically limited in their ability to exercise political power by Jim Crow.

    So I would say we became a ‘true’ democracy with a universal franchise, everyone voting their interests, in maybe 1955-1975.

    Does anyone like the results? I think we can officially say democracy has now been tried in America, for around 50 years, and it doesn’t work. It managed to wreck a great civilization that had lasted since Jamestown colony, and is in the process of wrecking European Christendom as well.

    Currently it appears the most durable form of government would be the Chinese system of ethno-nationalism headed by an absolute ruler, whose legitimacy comes from the ability to provide materially for his people (a.k.a. ‘the mandate of heaven.’) The current CCP looks pretty much like a modern version of the old empire, without the concubinage/eunuchs. This system has worked since the Bronze Age–the Han are still the Han, and they have slowly expanded their territory and influence over the millenia, and I don’t doubt they will be here in 1000 more years. Historically the Chinese don’t tend to fetishize any particular system of government or economic arrangement* (“it doesn’t matter if a cat is a black cat or a white cat, so long as it catches mice”). They have never been particularly religious. But they care a lot about their co-ethnics and their culture.

    My personal preference would be democracy with a tightly limited franchise. But regardless, I think it’s time to start thinking about building parallel societies that do not rely on the current system, and don’t support it. It is clearly possible (the Amish have done it.) There is no need for violent revolution. If you want to kill a lion, don’t fight the lion, kill what it eats, then stand back as it starves. Right now the Imperium Americanum eats white people, who are (barely) holding this experiment together with their tax dollars, their blood, and their infinite patience for brown dysfunction.

    *Yes, I know, cultural revolution, great leap forward. The early days of the CCP were pretty anomalous compared to the rest of Chinese history and I think you could argue they were having a Malthusian collapse during that period, during which lots of weird stuff is bound to happen.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    America has now been a true democracy for, what, maybe 50 years? For much of its history the franchise was explicitly limited to property owning white men; then slowly expanded.

    During the federal period, ca. 1815, about 40% of the adult male population had the vote. By 1835, there was a residue of poll taxes here and there, but pretty much the entire male population could vote bar resident aliens, tribal Indians and blacks. Blacks were about 15% of the population at that point, Indians mostly resident beyond the frontier (and < 1% of the total), and aliens a single-digit minority as well. After the Civil War, blacks were excluded from the electoral roll in about 9 Southern states. Blacks living elsewhere could cast ballots. Again, blacks in toto constituted about 12% of the population in the post-bellum period. General if not universal suffrage for men was the mode throughout Europe after 1870, btw.
    , @Arclight
    I used to think the commentators who claim we are headed toward dissolution were nuts, but as the demographic that foots most of the tax bill becomes a smaller share of the population while being asked to fork over more and more over time, I'm coming around to the idea that there will some kind of revolt against our 'democracy' at some point within a generation or so.
    , @Crawfurdmuir

    So I would say we became a ‘true’ democracy with a universal franchise, everyone voting their interests, in maybe 1955-1975.
     
    You can pinpoint the date as January 23, 1964. That's when the Twenty-Fourth Amendment was ratified, forbidding any tax qualification for eligibility to vote in Federal elections.

    The American Revolution was fought because of taxation without representation - in 1964 the official policy became one of representation without taxation. The decline of the United States can be dated to when we began to allow people without "skin in the game" to vote.
    , @MBlanc46
    The negative part of your analysis is bang on. Historic America is finished. Whether we can be a parallel society without violence isn’t clear to me.
  85. But if the GOP-affiliated Bibi loses on April 9th to the Democrat-affiliated Gen. Benny Gantz and his posse of Straight White Men, expect most American Democrats to kiss and make up over Israel.

    The survey research over the last several weeks suggests the Gantz-Lapid list and the 3 lists most inclined to cooperate with them will win about 46 seats in the Knesset. They’d need 61. Another story in the election is the gradual but relentless implosion of the Labor Party. The largest opposition bloc is now an inchoate social-liberal vote which has not settled on any abiding political organization but shifts from one promoter to another from one election to the next (Sharon, Olmert, Livni, Kahlon, Lapid, and now Gantz). Labor was for 40 years the pre-eminent political force in mandatory Palestine and then in Israel, and a vigorous competitor for 70. Now it’s a sect which has slightly more followers than the Ashkenazic religious parties and the squish-green element.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  86. @SimpleSong
    Well it's nice to see people stop kowtowing to AIPAC, but the way this came about (alien cultures bringing their old grudges into America while the old stock natives shuffle their feet uncomfortably...) raises some questions.

    Anyway have y'all given up on democracy yet? Electoral this and blue wave that and demographics this, everyone can see in our current system the situation is impossible for the historical American population, and we are headed towards ruin. There is no way out using the current system. Of course Plato could have told you this was going to happen, it is striking how accurately he describes the way a democracy implodes.

    America has now been a true democracy for, what, maybe 50 years? For much of its history the franchise was explicitly limited to property owning white men; then slowly expanded. In each case there was a lag between groups being given the vote and starting to vote their interests as a block. For example women got the franchise in the '20s but their votes didn't start diverging significantly from their co-ethnic males until at least 50 years later. Blacks got the franchise after the civil war but were practically limited in their ability to exercise political power by Jim Crow.

    So I would say we became a 'true' democracy with a universal franchise, everyone voting their interests, in maybe 1955-1975.

    Does anyone like the results? I think we can officially say democracy has now been tried in America, for around 50 years, and it doesn't work. It managed to wreck a great civilization that had lasted since Jamestown colony, and is in the process of wrecking European Christendom as well.

    Currently it appears the most durable form of government would be the Chinese system of ethno-nationalism headed by an absolute ruler, whose legitimacy comes from the ability to provide materially for his people (a.k.a. 'the mandate of heaven.') The current CCP looks pretty much like a modern version of the old empire, without the concubinage/eunuchs. This system has worked since the Bronze Age--the Han are still the Han, and they have slowly expanded their territory and influence over the millenia, and I don't doubt they will be here in 1000 more years. Historically the Chinese don't tend to fetishize any particular system of government or economic arrangement* ("it doesn't matter if a cat is a black cat or a white cat, so long as it catches mice"). They have never been particularly religious. But they care a lot about their co-ethnics and their culture.

    My personal preference would be democracy with a tightly limited franchise. But regardless, I think it's time to start thinking about building parallel societies that do not rely on the current system, and don't support it. It is clearly possible (the Amish have done it.) There is no need for violent revolution. If you want to kill a lion, don't fight the lion, kill what it eats, then stand back as it starves. Right now the Imperium Americanum eats white people, who are (barely) holding this experiment together with their tax dollars, their blood, and their infinite patience for brown dysfunction.

    *Yes, I know, cultural revolution, great leap forward. The early days of the CCP were pretty anomalous compared to the rest of Chinese history and I think you could argue they were having a Malthusian collapse during that period, during which lots of weird stuff is bound to happen.

    America has now been a true democracy for, what, maybe 50 years? For much of its history the franchise was explicitly limited to property owning white men; then slowly expanded.

    During the federal period, ca. 1815, about 40% of the adult male population had the vote. By 1835, there was a residue of poll taxes here and there, but pretty much the entire male population could vote bar resident aliens, tribal Indians and blacks. Blacks were about 15% of the population at that point, Indians mostly resident beyond the frontier (and < 1% of the total), and aliens a single-digit minority as well. After the Civil War, blacks were excluded from the electoral roll in about 9 Southern states. Blacks living elsewhere could cast ballots. Again, blacks in toto constituted about 12% of the population in the post-bellum period. General if not universal suffrage for men was the mode throughout Europe after 1870, btw.

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    That's true, but again I define America differently than you do, and I should clarify. I define it as a people, not a political system. So for me, America starts with the founding of Jamestown colony in 1607. It does not start in 1776 or 1787: those are just political transitions.

    If the constitution doesn't get ratified 'America' and 'Americans' are still a thing and would probably mostly go on as before. Heck if the revolution doesn't happen probably things would have been mostly the same (look how similar Canada and Australia are to the U.S.)

    If Jamestown doesn't get founded Americans are not a thing and America looks very different depending on which other European country takes over. So I would put the start date at 1607. (Or the birth of Virginia Dare in 1587.)

    So I would say (1587-1607)-(1815-1830) is a slight majority of American, if not US history. But USian =/= American.

    Don't get me wrong I love Andrew Jackson tho.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    America has now been a true democracy for, what, maybe 50 years? For much of its history the franchise was explicitly limited to property-owning white men;

    That's the only way democracy could have functioned properly. The universal adult franchise we have now has led to national self-destruction.
  87. The Republicrat party belongs in the 20th century along with all the other leftovers from WWII.

  88. @SimpleSong
    Well it's nice to see people stop kowtowing to AIPAC, but the way this came about (alien cultures bringing their old grudges into America while the old stock natives shuffle their feet uncomfortably...) raises some questions.

    Anyway have y'all given up on democracy yet? Electoral this and blue wave that and demographics this, everyone can see in our current system the situation is impossible for the historical American population, and we are headed towards ruin. There is no way out using the current system. Of course Plato could have told you this was going to happen, it is striking how accurately he describes the way a democracy implodes.

    America has now been a true democracy for, what, maybe 50 years? For much of its history the franchise was explicitly limited to property owning white men; then slowly expanded. In each case there was a lag between groups being given the vote and starting to vote their interests as a block. For example women got the franchise in the '20s but their votes didn't start diverging significantly from their co-ethnic males until at least 50 years later. Blacks got the franchise after the civil war but were practically limited in their ability to exercise political power by Jim Crow.

    So I would say we became a 'true' democracy with a universal franchise, everyone voting their interests, in maybe 1955-1975.

    Does anyone like the results? I think we can officially say democracy has now been tried in America, for around 50 years, and it doesn't work. It managed to wreck a great civilization that had lasted since Jamestown colony, and is in the process of wrecking European Christendom as well.

    Currently it appears the most durable form of government would be the Chinese system of ethno-nationalism headed by an absolute ruler, whose legitimacy comes from the ability to provide materially for his people (a.k.a. 'the mandate of heaven.') The current CCP looks pretty much like a modern version of the old empire, without the concubinage/eunuchs. This system has worked since the Bronze Age--the Han are still the Han, and they have slowly expanded their territory and influence over the millenia, and I don't doubt they will be here in 1000 more years. Historically the Chinese don't tend to fetishize any particular system of government or economic arrangement* ("it doesn't matter if a cat is a black cat or a white cat, so long as it catches mice"). They have never been particularly religious. But they care a lot about their co-ethnics and their culture.

    My personal preference would be democracy with a tightly limited franchise. But regardless, I think it's time to start thinking about building parallel societies that do not rely on the current system, and don't support it. It is clearly possible (the Amish have done it.) There is no need for violent revolution. If you want to kill a lion, don't fight the lion, kill what it eats, then stand back as it starves. Right now the Imperium Americanum eats white people, who are (barely) holding this experiment together with their tax dollars, their blood, and their infinite patience for brown dysfunction.

    *Yes, I know, cultural revolution, great leap forward. The early days of the CCP were pretty anomalous compared to the rest of Chinese history and I think you could argue they were having a Malthusian collapse during that period, during which lots of weird stuff is bound to happen.

    I used to think the commentators who claim we are headed toward dissolution were nuts, but as the demographic that foots most of the tax bill becomes a smaller share of the population while being asked to fork over more and more over time, I’m coming around to the idea that there will some kind of revolt against our ‘democracy’ at some point within a generation or so.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    The cases of South Africa and Malaysia say "don't count on it."
    , @anon
    >I’m coming around to the idea that there will some kind of revolt against our ‘democracy’ at some point within a generation or so.

    I doubt a literal revolt (as in violence/civil war). Standard of living is too high and tech mollifies by offering abundant means of escapism. We're an extremely SOFT people (not entirely a bad thing). The specter of fighting remotely control drones has a way of sapping morale.

    I think there is also a family size effect. If you're one of 10 kids it's a lot easier to say "eff it, let's fight". When it's only you and your sis-- well, who's going to take care of mom and dad?

    , @MBlanc46
    Disaggregation seems impossible until one sees that it’s the only way forward for whites.
    , @Anonymous
    The idea of dissolution does seem crazy, until you realize it is empirically the most likely scenario. When you have two populations, divided by geography, culture and 8-10 IQ points, it is pretty much a given that you end up with two different nation states.

    In 30 years, California and the Southwest will seem alien to the rest of the country. It has yet to sink in for people what an entire region of 92 IQ's looks like in the US. The closest thing we have now is Mississippi or Appalachia.

    Think this will arrive quicker than most people anticipate for a few reasons. 1) intelligent, ambitious Mexicans will leave the Southwest, marry into the white population, creating a brain drain. Similar thing plays out in Appalachia currently. 2) Genetic screening will likely boost White and Asian IQ's some, exacerbating the current IQ divide. 3) global warming will make much of the Southwest a wasteland, with summer temps in the 110's.

    California becoming autonomous is probably a no-go, since it has a tourist-friendly climate and it has strategic importance, occupying much of the Pacific coast. As for other Southwest states, suspect there will be some sort of carve-out status for them, where they nominally remain states, but are closer to a hybrid of Native-American / Hispanic reservations.
  89. @Arclight
    I used to think the commentators who claim we are headed toward dissolution were nuts, but as the demographic that foots most of the tax bill becomes a smaller share of the population while being asked to fork over more and more over time, I'm coming around to the idea that there will some kind of revolt against our 'democracy' at some point within a generation or so.

    The cases of South Africa and Malaysia say “don’t count on it.”

  90. @Paul
    "On Thursday, Trump announced in a historic step that the time has come for the US to recognize Israel’s sovereignty on the Golan Heights."


    Why such hostility from so many Jews toward Donald Trump? He will readily grovel.

    And Trump must therefore accept Russia's claims to Crimea. Does territory seized by force become one's own? Does he think things through, or is everything a matter of impulse with him?

    “On Thursday, Trump announced in a historic step that the time has come for the US to recognize Israel’s sovereignty on the Golan Heights.”

    Lemme see …

    So we’ve got one party where the pols traditionally pledge allegiance to a foreign nation because it’s of intense interest to a tiny tribal minority group that funds that party … but are skipping it this year because … it annoys another competing, smaller but faster growing, minority group.

    Or

    In the other party, the–supposedly “nationalist”–leader–our President–spends cycles to pledge support for said foreign nation in the disposition of its border disputes…. having just caved to the other party on protecting our own border.

    Oy vey!

    Imagine living in an actual healthy nation where politics does not revolve around the primitive ethnic resenetments of a tiny minority group and nor its allegiance to a small nation on the other side of the world … but rather with the interests–the border, the security, the prosperity, the future of the people of the nation itself!

    Damn, that would be awesome!

    Just imagine!

    • Agree: MBlanc46
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    # mass immigration
    , @istevefan
    I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but another dad became the kernel of a recent post at Heartiste
    , @Anon
    No need to imagine.

    You can travel to Israel and see what such a country looks like.
  91. @Lot
    Syria will get right on that after it stops massacres of its own citizens and civil warring and achieves Sunni-Shiite and Arab-Turk internal peace. Any day now soon that will happen.

    Putinbots are so aroused now that Assad has the latest Russian equipment. Hmm, what happened the last time an Assad led Syrians with the latest Russian equipment:

    “Once the SAM crews fired missiles at the drones, the F-15s and F-16s provided air cover while F-4 Phantoms attacked the SAM batteries, destroying them with AGM-78 and AGM-45 anti-radiation missiles. The rapid flight time of the missiles minimized the F-4s' exposure to the SAMs. The Syrians reportedly fired 57 SA-6s, to no effect.

    By noon on Friday, when the ceasefire took effect, the IAF had shot down 82 aircraft without losing any in air combat.

    In 1991, Ivry met a Czech general who had been serving in Moscow in 1982. He told Ivry that the operation made the Soviets understand that Western technology was superior to theirs, and that in his view, the blow to the Beqaa Valley SAMs was an impetus to Glasnost and the Soviet Union's collapse.“

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1wP0LfrhGU

    http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2002/June%202002/0602bekaa.aspx

    To be sure, the Israelis are indomitable warriors with no equal in technology and mettle; thank goodness the F.U.S.A. allies with them, since they can clearly best any force in the world, even the formidible Russian military, all by thenselves.

    F-15s, F-16s, F-4s – wow! I never realised the astronomically improbable coincidence that the Israelis used alphanumeric designations exactly matching those of American aircraft.

    What’s that? Oh….

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    F-15s, F-16s, F-4s – wow! I never realised the astronomically improbable coincidence that the Israelis used alphanumeric designations exactly matching those of American aircraft.

    What’s that? Oh….
     
    Hey, they still had to pay for them with their own hard-earned...........

    What's that? Oh.............
    , @Lot
    Not sure your point, but it is a good thing Israel is on Team USA.

    https://uslawblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/unnamed-30.jpg
  92. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter
    Lots of interesting questions here:
    - Will Jewish voters switch to the Republican Party? Or at least stay home in 2020?
    - Will Jewish campaign contributions shift away from the Democrats in 2020?
    - Even if the answer to the above two questions is yes, will it impact the election?

    Ha ha hell no

    Learn the diaspora strategy.

  93. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    “On Thursday, Trump announced in a historic step that the time has come for the US to recognize Israel’s sovereignty on the Golan Heights.”
     
    Lemme see ...

    So we've got one party where the pols traditionally pledge allegiance to a foreign nation because it's of intense interest to a tiny tribal minority group that funds that party ... but are skipping it this year because ... it annoys another competing, smaller but faster growing, minority group.

    Or

    In the other party, the--supposedly "nationalist"--leader--our President--spends cycles to pledge support for said foreign nation in the disposition of its border disputes.... having just caved to the other party on protecting our own border.

    Oy vey!

    Imagine living in an actual healthy nation where politics does not revolve around the primitive ethnic resenetments of a tiny minority group and nor its allegiance to a small nation on the other side of the world ... but rather with the interests--the border, the security, the prosperity, the future of the people of the nation itself!

    Damn, that would be awesome!

    Just imagine!

    # mass immigration

  94. @Art Deco
    America has now been a true democracy for, what, maybe 50 years? For much of its history the franchise was explicitly limited to property owning white men; then slowly expanded.

    During the federal period, ca. 1815, about 40% of the adult male population had the vote. By 1835, there was a residue of poll taxes here and there, but pretty much the entire male population could vote bar resident aliens, tribal Indians and blacks. Blacks were about 15% of the population at that point, Indians mostly resident beyond the frontier (and < 1% of the total), and aliens a single-digit minority as well. After the Civil War, blacks were excluded from the electoral roll in about 9 Southern states. Blacks living elsewhere could cast ballots. Again, blacks in toto constituted about 12% of the population in the post-bellum period. General if not universal suffrage for men was the mode throughout Europe after 1870, btw.

    That’s true, but again I define America differently than you do, and I should clarify. I define it as a people, not a political system. So for me, America starts with the founding of Jamestown colony in 1607. It does not start in 1776 or 1787: those are just political transitions.

    If the constitution doesn’t get ratified ‘America’ and ‘Americans’ are still a thing and would probably mostly go on as before. Heck if the revolution doesn’t happen probably things would have been mostly the same (look how similar Canada and Australia are to the U.S.)

    If Jamestown doesn’t get founded Americans are not a thing and America looks very different depending on which other European country takes over. So I would put the start date at 1607. (Or the birth of Virginia Dare in 1587.)

    So I would say (1587-1607)-(1815-1830) is a slight majority of American, if not US history. But USian =/= American.

    Don’t get me wrong I love Andrew Jackson tho.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    Some Boston cad named Nat Philprick wrote a book on the Mayflower and he put that bastard out in 2007 solely to steal some thunder from the Quadricentennial of the Jamestown founding in 1607. That is the kind of stuff that the AIPAC people pull in their various propaganda outlets such as the NY Times and the Wall Street Journal.

    That's not very nice, Mr. Philbrick!

    And now this Philbrick guy has me thinking about his underhanded deed while I should be thinking about Virginia and the start of Colonial America, English version. The Dutch, Swedes, Spaniards and others graciously ceded the land to the English -- Thank You!

    https://twitter.com/PenguinBooks/status/776775588837224449
  95. @Autochthon
    To be sure, the Israelis are indomitable warriors with no equal in technology and mettle; thank goodness the F.U.S.A. allies with them, since they can clearly best any force in the world, even the formidible Russian military, all by thenselves.

    F-15s, F-16s, F-4s – wow! I never realised the astronomically improbable coincidence that the Israelis used alphanumeric designations exactly matching those of American aircraft.

    What's that? Oh....

    F-15s, F-16s, F-4s – wow! I never realised the astronomically improbable coincidence that the Israelis used alphanumeric designations exactly matching those of American aircraft.

    What’s that? Oh….

    Hey, they still had to pay for them with their own hard-earned………..

    What’s that? Oh………….

  96. @Ibound1
    Agree.
    He needed to have gone for the fence first (pun intended).

    Yep, for us that would have been a home run. The tax cut at best is a ground-out, double-play that might advance a runner, but kills the potential big inning.

  97. @AnotherDad

    “On Thursday, Trump announced in a historic step that the time has come for the US to recognize Israel’s sovereignty on the Golan Heights.”
     
    Lemme see ...

    So we've got one party where the pols traditionally pledge allegiance to a foreign nation because it's of intense interest to a tiny tribal minority group that funds that party ... but are skipping it this year because ... it annoys another competing, smaller but faster growing, minority group.

    Or

    In the other party, the--supposedly "nationalist"--leader--our President--spends cycles to pledge support for said foreign nation in the disposition of its border disputes.... having just caved to the other party on protecting our own border.

    Oy vey!

    Imagine living in an actual healthy nation where politics does not revolve around the primitive ethnic resenetments of a tiny minority group and nor its allegiance to a small nation on the other side of the world ... but rather with the interests--the border, the security, the prosperity, the future of the people of the nation itself!

    Damn, that would be awesome!

    Just imagine!

    I don’t know if anyone mentioned it, but another dad became the kernel of a recent post at Heartiste

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    I thought the same thing but did not post it when the learned counselor's case against amicable separation was America in the 1860s. Now that's relevant.
    One way or another the elite are hamsterwheeling on meth around the inescapable waterfall that is nobody wanting (or being able) to pay for all their dumb utopian plans. Separation would avoid bloodshed but the elites will demand war because their nightmare scenario is the idea that somebody somewhere is getting along without being told what to do by experts, taxed for every action by lerners, and watched by armored police.
    , @Autochthon
    JackD (uncharacteristically goofily; I'm disappointed in him) claims Another Dad's idea of separation is a call for (or at least must be inevitably accompanied by) civil war.

    While the latter may be for the reasons cited by others (GloboHomo's frothing , religious rage to dominate all), it certainly is not so by historical standards.

    Gran Colombia became Colombia, Ecuador, and Venezuela; Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and India departed Britain; Norway and Sweden separated; the Chechs and the Slovaks did it. Even even Filipinos and 'Mericans did it. Let's do it: let's fall apart!

    (I might have made that clever if I had an hour to, but, hey, I'm no Cole Porter.)
  98. @SimpleSong
    That's true, but again I define America differently than you do, and I should clarify. I define it as a people, not a political system. So for me, America starts with the founding of Jamestown colony in 1607. It does not start in 1776 or 1787: those are just political transitions.

    If the constitution doesn't get ratified 'America' and 'Americans' are still a thing and would probably mostly go on as before. Heck if the revolution doesn't happen probably things would have been mostly the same (look how similar Canada and Australia are to the U.S.)

    If Jamestown doesn't get founded Americans are not a thing and America looks very different depending on which other European country takes over. So I would put the start date at 1607. (Or the birth of Virginia Dare in 1587.)

    So I would say (1587-1607)-(1815-1830) is a slight majority of American, if not US history. But USian =/= American.

    Don't get me wrong I love Andrew Jackson tho.

    Some Boston cad named Nat Philprick wrote a book on the Mayflower and he put that bastard out in 2007 solely to steal some thunder from the Quadricentennial of the Jamestown founding in 1607. That is the kind of stuff that the AIPAC people pull in their various propaganda outlets such as the NY Times and the Wall Street Journal.

    That’s not very nice, Mr. Philbrick!

    And now this Philbrick guy has me thinking about his underhanded deed while I should be thinking about Virginia and the start of Colonial America, English version. The Dutch, Swedes, Spaniards and others graciously ceded the land to the English — Thank You!

  99. @Bill Jones
    "And Trump must therefore accept Russia’s claims to Crimea. Does territory seized by force become one’s own?"

    You are stunningly ignorant. There is no semblance of similarity between the Golan Heights and Crimea.
    The people of Crimea voted - about 90% in favor, to secede from Ukraine and apply to admittance (actual re-admittance) to Russia.

    Where was there any "seizure by force"?
    On Golan.

    That’s like the Falklands. A lot of people say they belong to Argentina, but the residents are overwhelmingly British and don’t want to be a part of Argentina.

  100. @Lot
    Syria will get right on that after it stops massacres of its own citizens and civil warring and achieves Sunni-Shiite and Arab-Turk internal peace. Any day now soon that will happen.

    Putinbots are so aroused now that Assad has the latest Russian equipment. Hmm, what happened the last time an Assad led Syrians with the latest Russian equipment:

    “Once the SAM crews fired missiles at the drones, the F-15s and F-16s provided air cover while F-4 Phantoms attacked the SAM batteries, destroying them with AGM-78 and AGM-45 anti-radiation missiles. The rapid flight time of the missiles minimized the F-4s' exposure to the SAMs. The Syrians reportedly fired 57 SA-6s, to no effect.

    By noon on Friday, when the ceasefire took effect, the IAF had shot down 82 aircraft without losing any in air combat.

    In 1991, Ivry met a Czech general who had been serving in Moscow in 1982. He told Ivry that the operation made the Soviets understand that Western technology was superior to theirs, and that in his view, the blow to the Beqaa Valley SAMs was an impetus to Glasnost and the Soviet Union's collapse.“

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1wP0LfrhGU

    http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2002/June%202002/0602bekaa.aspx

    Syria will get right on that after it stops massacres of its own citizens and civil warring and achieves Sunni-Shiite and Arab-Turk internal peace. Any day now soon that will happen.

    The only “nation” in the Levant that routinely murders its own citizens is Israel, only they pretend they aren’t really citizens, just refugees who happen to have lived there, like for millennia.

    What Israel does is called genocide.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Biafrans killed by Nigeria 2.5 mil
    Darfuris killed by Sudan 800k
    West Papuans killed by Indonesia 500k
    Syrians killed by Assad regime 500k+
    Chechens killed by Russia 150k
    Kurds and Cypriots killed by Turkish 80k
    Western Saharans killed by Morocco 40k
    PaLie$tinians killed by Israel 24k

    Oh yes genocide indeed, and without equal I must add.
    , @MBlanc46
    I’ve just used my Agree/Disagree/Etc. quota, so I’ll have to use a Reply to say, “Troll”.
  101. @Reg Cæsar
    The feather, the dot, the fecal avocado, and Methuselah aren't going. The boring ones are.

    Anyone know if Dickenlooper will be there? I'd love to see him and Beto in a poetry-slam debate!

    Are you John and Ken?

    https://kfiam640.iheart.com/content/2019-03-22-2020-democratic-candidates-autobiography-details-his-sexual-conquests/

    Maybe Dickenlooper thinks it will help him with the vital African American female voters.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Someone wrote an article with a link on Drudge about how weird the Democratic candidates are. I think they're suffering from the hiving-off effect. All the sane people with sense have left the Democrats by now, and the only people who are still Democratic politicians are genuinely neurotic individuals with no sense of how weird they are, because they live in a bubble of other weird liberals. 2 or 3 elections in the future, they will be even crazier. The Democrats can't offer anything that a sane person would want-or rather, what is actually possible to achieve without destroying the economy.
  102. @donut
    Yeah , we're crackpots to a man right Lot ? Maybe so but you're known by the company you keep . BTW I'm personally offended that you left NAZIs out .

    Syria will get right on that after it stops massacres of its own citizens and civil warring and achieves Sunni-Shiite and Arab-Turk internal peace. Any day now soon that will happen.

    Lot’s ilk can be known by their propensity to smear. It’s who they are.

  103. @Ibound1
    Agree.
    He needed to have gone for the fence first (pun intended).

    Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell made sure that nothing would happen as far as the wall.

    • Agree: BB753
  104. I’m surprised no one has taken to calling her “Mullah Omar”. I must be getting old, but then again I haven’t checked Breitbart yet.

  105. @Art Deco
    America has now been a true democracy for, what, maybe 50 years? For much of its history the franchise was explicitly limited to property owning white men; then slowly expanded.

    During the federal period, ca. 1815, about 40% of the adult male population had the vote. By 1835, there was a residue of poll taxes here and there, but pretty much the entire male population could vote bar resident aliens, tribal Indians and blacks. Blacks were about 15% of the population at that point, Indians mostly resident beyond the frontier (and < 1% of the total), and aliens a single-digit minority as well. After the Civil War, blacks were excluded from the electoral roll in about 9 Southern states. Blacks living elsewhere could cast ballots. Again, blacks in toto constituted about 12% of the population in the post-bellum period. General if not universal suffrage for men was the mode throughout Europe after 1870, btw.

    America has now been a true democracy for, what, maybe 50 years? For much of its history the franchise was explicitly limited to property-owning white men;

    That’s the only way democracy could have functioned properly. The universal adult franchise we have now has led to national self-destruction.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Commenter
    Wait until they extend the franchise to AIs.

    I think someone wrote about that.
  106. @Harry Baldwin
    America has now been a true democracy for, what, maybe 50 years? For much of its history the franchise was explicitly limited to property-owning white men;

    That's the only way democracy could have functioned properly. The universal adult franchise we have now has led to national self-destruction.

    Wait until they extend the franchise to AIs.

    I think someone wrote about that.

  107. Anonymous[310] • Disclaimer says:

    @istevefun

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/ilhan-omar-wins-again/#comment-3110759

    “…another dad became the kernel of a recent post at Heartiste.”

    Which confirms bored identity’s axiom #6.000.000:

    “The Order of the Binary Singularity shall not prevail over yellow vested interest of Alt-intersectional Inteligence”

    (…)

    Paging Tdzak D

  108. anon[166] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arclight
    I used to think the commentators who claim we are headed toward dissolution were nuts, but as the demographic that foots most of the tax bill becomes a smaller share of the population while being asked to fork over more and more over time, I'm coming around to the idea that there will some kind of revolt against our 'democracy' at some point within a generation or so.

    >I’m coming around to the idea that there will some kind of revolt against our ‘democracy’ at some point within a generation or so.

    I doubt a literal revolt (as in violence/civil war). Standard of living is too high and tech mollifies by offering abundant means of escapism. We’re an extremely SOFT people (not entirely a bad thing). The specter of fighting remotely control drones has a way of sapping morale.

    I think there is also a family size effect. If you’re one of 10 kids it’s a lot easier to say “eff it, let’s fight”. When it’s only you and your sis– well, who’s going to take care of mom and dad?

  109. @George
    "Surely there are not enough Muslims in America." There aren't enough Jews in Vermont, but Sanders was elected over and over. My guess is a Muslim would be considered an honorary non white by most of the electorate. Muslims might also be popular with typical American Whites as they are religious but not one of those religions with some sort of scandal or end of the world eschatology. I think brand White and brand Jewish are tarnished. Obama destroyed the Black branding. That leaves Muslims and Asians.

    “Muslims might also be popular with typical American Whites”

    Especially whites with short memories?

  110. @Bill Jones
    "And Trump must therefore accept Russia’s claims to Crimea. Does territory seized by force become one’s own?"

    You are stunningly ignorant. There is no semblance of similarity between the Golan Heights and Crimea.
    The people of Crimea voted - about 90% in favor, to secede from Ukraine and apply to admittance (actual re-admittance) to Russia.

    Where was there any "seizure by force"?
    On Golan.

    “…Seizure by force…On Golan.” In response to the attack on Israel by Syria.

    Expansion of borders after a nation wins a war has happened throughout history. For instance, the U.S. defeat of Mexico in a 19th century war led to the annexation of California.

  111. @Mr. Anon
    Does anybody really believe that Mike Pompeo - USMA graduate, Harvard Law Graduate, Harvard Law Review Editor, Williams & Connolly lawyer, and Koch-Brothers beneficiary - believes all that God talk? I rather tend to believe that Pompeo is a shamelessly cynical hack.

    One of those pictures from that Daily Mail article is pretty funny. It's the standard "Here I am at the wailing wall with my kippah, paying homage to my masters" photo. It appears as though there are hands guiding him. He has actual handlers. Go on, Mike. Touch the Wall. Kiss the Wall. It won't hurt. There you go. Good goy. Now we own you.

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/22/14/11326602-6839219-image-a-24_1553265394985.jpg

    Parenthetically I would note that Pompeo looks like "Norm" from Cheers

    Does anybody really believe that Mike Pompeo – USMA graduate, Harvard Law Graduate, Harvard Law Review Editor, Williams & Connolly lawyer, and Koch-Brothers beneficiary – believes all that God talk?

    Yes.

    Your question betrays your (lack of) class.

    • Replies: @Sbaker
    I have a friend that is a Harvard Law grad and he and his wife, also a lawyer are devout Chrisitans. Belief in God is found only in humans, not in lower life forms.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Yes.

    Your question betrays your (lack of) class.
     
    Your answer betrays your naive foolishness.

    You really think that Mike Pompeo believes that Donald Trump is an Instrument of God? He was sent by God to be the shield and sword of Israel? I think he's just saying that for the rubes back in Kansas.
    , @Mr. Anon
    Do you find anything remotely distasteful about all the American (non-jewish) politicians who symbollically pay obeisance to a foreign state by taking part in a (to them) alien religious ritual? Bear in mind, no American politician did this until - what? - about 20 or 30 years ago. You find nothing odd in this at all?
  112. @stillCARealist
    She was mutilated? How do you know that? And how do you know she was inbred?

    Reading her Wikipedia page makes her look like a standard Commie Muslim with a big mouth. She was born to rule and now she's exercising that privilege.

    Also, her marital life is pretty unique. Not a very consistently moral woman for a Muslim.

    She is a Somali, many of which are Inbred, her name is Somali Muslim for inbred and she is from a 3rd world dump. Genital mutilation is a Muslim tradition whether females like it or not. Just look at what Somalis have done with their own country and now we give them power to yield a similar result here.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    As Steve pointed out so ably recently, Omar was a member of Somalia's privileged elite under their tin pot dictator. Her group ran Somalia (even further) into the ground and now she's making a positive contribution to this country's further demise. She's quite the leader.
  113. Straight White Men Without Hats.

    Don’t think the Safety Dance is getting it done in high-TFR-land.

  114. @Desiderius

    Does anybody really believe that Mike Pompeo – USMA graduate, Harvard Law Graduate, Harvard Law Review Editor, Williams & Connolly lawyer, and Koch-Brothers beneficiary – believes all that God talk?
     
    Yes.

    Your question betrays your (lack of) class.

    I have a friend that is a Harvard Law grad and he and his wife, also a lawyer are devout Chrisitans. Belief in God is found only in humans, not in lower life forms.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Yeah, casual atheism is really downmarket these days. That's why online nerds are just now picking up on it.
    , @Mr. Anon

    I have a friend that is a Harvard Law grad and he and his wife, also a lawyer are devout Chrisitans.
     
    I once knew a woman who was about 6 feet 3 inches tall. I guess that all women are tall, huh?
    , @lavoisier

    I have a friend that is a Harvard Law grad and he and his wife, also a lawyer are devout Chrisitans. Belief in God is found only in humans, not in lower life forms.
     
    How do you know what lower life forms believe?
    , @Peripatetic Commenter

    I have a friend that is a Harvard Law grad and he and his wife, also a lawyer are devout Chrisitans.
     
    Just as there was no Jesus Judeo-Christ there also was no Jesus Chrisit!
  115. @bomag
    Small pills can have a large effect.

    There's, what?, three mosques in New Zealand, and the place is turning inside out to cater.

    Ilhan Omar has affected more debate than 430 other reps.

    “We’ve always been at war with East Asia.”

    The manifesto has been banned in New Zealand. Diversity if our new God and blasphemers will be punished.

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/435416-new-zealand-bans-possession-distribution-of-shooting-suspects

    • Replies: @RationalExpressions
    From the article you linked to:”It also allegedly included a line calling President Trump "a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose." The White House rejected the suspect's remarks.”

    Of course this statement is not completely accurate, but now no one can refute it without being accused of being pro-terrorist. Never thought 1984 would start happening so suddenly.

    P.S. I love the “allegedly” modifier - the reporter can’t even admit to having seen the document.
  116. @AnotherDad

    “On Thursday, Trump announced in a historic step that the time has come for the US to recognize Israel’s sovereignty on the Golan Heights.”
     
    Lemme see ...

    So we've got one party where the pols traditionally pledge allegiance to a foreign nation because it's of intense interest to a tiny tribal minority group that funds that party ... but are skipping it this year because ... it annoys another competing, smaller but faster growing, minority group.

    Or

    In the other party, the--supposedly "nationalist"--leader--our President--spends cycles to pledge support for said foreign nation in the disposition of its border disputes.... having just caved to the other party on protecting our own border.

    Oy vey!

    Imagine living in an actual healthy nation where politics does not revolve around the primitive ethnic resenetments of a tiny minority group and nor its allegiance to a small nation on the other side of the world ... but rather with the interests--the border, the security, the prosperity, the future of the people of the nation itself!

    Damn, that would be awesome!

    Just imagine!

    No need to imagine.

    You can travel to Israel and see what such a country looks like.

  117. An unexpectedly good week, except for the loss of this fellow. Between Andre Williams dying at 82 and Chuck Berry going in his 90s is it time to doubt modern medical advice and enjoy a nice steak?

  118. So the bad guys wear kippahs? I guess the bar is higher for anti-Semitism in Israel.

  119. ‘Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, former House of Representatives member Beto O’Rourke and Senator Kamala Harris of California, all of whom announced they would run for the Democratic primaries next year, decided not to attend the conference….’

    This is actually one of the effects I hoped for from Trump’s victory.

    Had Clinton won, Israel would have continued to be something like motherhood — a non-partisan good, which all must revere.

    Trump won instead, and Trump wuvs Israel too — but all that Trump loves is evil, so…

    Israel becomes a partisan issue. Issue that are partisan issues get looked at critically.

    Looked at critically, Israel is dead.

  120. @SBaker
    Actually there are quite a number of muslim posters on this site. Inbred Omar has captured the hearts and minds of them all. She/it is their new hero even if she was genitally mutilated.

    ‘ She/it is their new hero even if she was genitally mutilated…’

    The mutilation must have been relatively minor. It’s apparent she’s the only one in Congress with any balls.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Her balls only look big to you Colin because you are comparing them to your own pair.
  121. @Lot
    “These lefty upstarts who skip this conference are going to get a harsh lesson in Jewish reality.”

    Deus vult!

    ‘“These lefty upstarts who skip this conference are going to get a harsh lesson in Jewish reality.”

    Deus vult!

    That’s what just happened. I’m opening a good bottle of wine tonight.

  122. @South Texas Guy
    I can count the number of jewish people I've been acquainted with on my fingers, so I can't opine on the question of how much jews are jewish vs. how much they are lefty's.

    But jews being a neglible amount of the electorate, even NY, mean the real question is is the second one, which is will jews not be ponying up campaign cash for the 2020 election cycle? Since they fund about half of the dems national elections even a small amount could hurt Kamala or whoever. I'd bet somewhat of an impact, but jews are like blacks in that they view it as an article of faith that you have to be a dem voter.

    They've learned how to navigate the political waters even when the wind is seemingly against them, so I wouldn't look for a big shift.

    ‘They’ve learned how to navigate the political waters even when the wind is seemingly against them, so I wouldn’t look for a big shift.

    Perhaps not, but as Churchill said in the course of a previous struggle against evil, this may not be the beginning of the end, but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.

    Immediately, my expectation is that that Israel’s going to quit riding high, wide, and handsome for a bit. The Zionists are going to retrench and make nice until they’ve stabilized the foundation. Look for a ‘peace plan’ calculated to be just barely unacceptable to their victims. A cut back on the gratuitous murders. Very mild criticism of Israel may be permitted for a bit.

    Still, maybe they’ll be stupid. One can always hope.

  123. @istevefan
    I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but another dad became the kernel of a recent post at Heartiste

    I thought the same thing but did not post it when the learned counselor’s case against amicable separation was America in the 1860s. Now that’s relevant.
    One way or another the elite are hamsterwheeling on meth around the inescapable waterfall that is nobody wanting (or being able) to pay for all their dumb utopian plans. Separation would avoid bloodshed but the elites will demand war because their nightmare scenario is the idea that somebody somewhere is getting along without being told what to do by experts, taxed for every action by lerners, and watched by armored police.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    Good Whites will never let bad Whites leave voluntarily. As Auster once wrote, to them life is a morality play in which they must forever protect minorities from the depravities of the bad Whites. Additionally they like that the bad Whites can be used as a buffer between them and their minority minions which is why they are so keen on using housing vouchers to locate them in bad White areas. If bad Whites left they'd have to rub shoulders with those minorities and wouldn't be able to tell bad Whites what to do or think. The thought of that would be intolerable.
  124. @bored identity
    @Lot
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/ilhan-omar-wins-again/#comment-3110536



    "(Though your Mexican population is about 5% Sephardi Jewish by blood, nearly 10% for your white Mexicans, but that mixing happened in the 1500s.)"

     

    Mixing happened?

    bored identity wonders if there was anything your retconquistadoring crypto-ancestors wouldn't happen to press against?

    “your retconquistadoring crypto-ancestors”

    Not my ancestors, crypto or direct. I am Ashkenazi and NW European. No Sephardi or Iberian.

  125. @Autochthon
    To be sure, the Israelis are indomitable warriors with no equal in technology and mettle; thank goodness the F.U.S.A. allies with them, since they can clearly best any force in the world, even the formidible Russian military, all by thenselves.

    F-15s, F-16s, F-4s – wow! I never realised the astronomically improbable coincidence that the Israelis used alphanumeric designations exactly matching those of American aircraft.

    What's that? Oh....

    Not sure your point, but it is a good thing Israel is on Team USA.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    '...Not sure your point, but it is a good thing Israel is on Team USA...'

    Kind of like having a tape worm. All sorts of benefits.
    , @istevefan

    but it is a good thing Israel is on Team USA.
     
    The USS Liberty learned that the hard way.
    , @Mr. Anon
    Why would they burn something they own?
    , @Mr. Anon
    They tried to burn this one:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/USS_Liberty_flag_-_National_Cryptologic_Museum_-_DSC07641.JPG
  126. @James Speaks

    I love it, a combined Putinbot, Muslimist, China Troll, Anti-Semite, Chavista, AND Goldbug.
     
    Shorter Lot: I love poetry.

    Capice this: Southern Democrat and Christian; when a European who lays claim to ancient ancestry (not) calls me anti-Semite, that is rich. It's like the pot holder calling the kettle black.

    “Lays claim to ancient ancestry”

    If that is an allusion to the old Jihadi claim that European Jews are not related to the ancient Israelites, science has now refuted this. Ashkenazi are about 35-40% descended from them, Sephardi Jews even more.

    • Replies: @James Speaks

    If that is an allusion to the old Jihadi claim that European Jews are not related to the ancient Israelites, science has now refuted this. Ashkenazi are about 35-40% descended from them, Sephardi Jews even more.
     
    The only problem with this revelation is that the people the 60% European settlers are displacing are 100% Levantine. Your people no longer belong there. It is that simple.
  127. @cagey beast
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/ilhan-omar-wins-again/#comment-3110028

    Frum is enough frum to understand that “every devoted Jewish person now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the New Democratic Majority.”

    bored identity believes how this particular experience was the last straw that, at least for now, had straightened Frum’s zeligous back. Watching as a haze slowly covered his beady eyes, while his disbelieving noddle got redder than that remembrance poppy in his lapel , bored identity knew that Frum is ready to walk away from the left side of the history:

    At the beginning of the debate, only 28% of two thousand strong audience of prevalently white, mid-class boomers had agreed with Steve Bannon that populism was the future, while 72% agreed with Frum.

    An hour and half later – 57% agreed with Bannon.

    The funniest part was that Bannon won Toronto’s debate by literally echoing talking points of Sailer’s Citizenism from circa 2005.

  128. @Lot
    “Lays claim to ancient ancestry”

    If that is an allusion to the old Jihadi claim that European Jews are not related to the ancient Israelites, science has now refuted this. Ashkenazi are about 35-40% descended from them, Sephardi Jews even more.

    If that is an allusion to the old Jihadi claim that European Jews are not related to the ancient Israelites, science has now refuted this. Ashkenazi are about 35-40% descended from them, Sephardi Jews even more.

    The only problem with this revelation is that the people the 60% European settlers are displacing are 100% Levantine. Your people no longer belong there. It is that simple.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Palis are rarely 100% Levantine. The Egyptian, Circassian, Albanian, and Arabian ones are 0%. Others are mixed to various degrees.

    The closest people to the ancient Hebrews are Samaritans and Syrian Jews. Next are Druze and Greek Jews.
  129. @Mr. Anon

    Putinbots are so aroused now that Assad has the latest Russian equipment. Hmm, what happened the last time an Assad led Syrians with the latest Russian equipment:

    “Once the SAM crews fired missiles at the drones, the F-15s and F-16s provided air cover while F-4 Phantoms attacked the SAM batteries, destroying them with AGM-78 and AGM-45 anti-radiation missiles. The rapid flight time of the missiles minimized the F-4s’ exposure to the SAMs. The Syrians reportedly fired 57 SA-6s, to no effect.
     

    That was almost forty years ago. Back then, American warships mostly didn't crash into things too. That was back when all the fighter pilots were men, and they didn't fly LockMart pork-projects like the F-35. I would not so casually assume that russian military technology has not improved in all that time. The hallmark of modern American military thinking appears to be arrogance, self-satisfaction, and overreach.

    Sure man, Russian tech is teh awesome.

    In reality, there are no peers:

    • Replies: @istevefan
    Lot,

    Why show a model of the F-22 in Israeli markings? They don't have the F-22. Only the USAF flies the F-22. Israel has the F-35 which is a different plane, though still made by Lockheed-Martin.
    , @Mr. Anon

    In reality, there are no peers:
     
    You're right, I'm sure. Israelamerica has the toughest, bad-assiest bunch of armchair video-game model-airplane-building warriors the World has ever seen.

    The forces of darkness tremble:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/israel-s-first-openly-transgender-soldier-paves-way-others-n742876
  130. Blacks had the vote during reconstruction. In North Carolina they didn’t lose it until after the Wilmington insurrection and return of Democrats to power over the fusionists in 1898.

  131. @Lot
    Not sure your point, but it is a good thing Israel is on Team USA.

    https://uslawblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/unnamed-30.jpg

    ‘…Not sure your point, but it is a good thing Israel is on Team USA…’

    Kind of like having a tape worm. All sorts of benefits.

  132. @Clifford Brown
    "We've always been at war with East Asia."

    The manifesto has been banned in New Zealand. Diversity if our new God and blasphemers will be punished.

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/435416-new-zealand-bans-possession-distribution-of-shooting-suspects

    From the article you linked to:”It also allegedly included a line calling President Trump “a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose.” The White House rejected the suspect’s remarks.”

    Of course this statement is not completely accurate, but now no one can refute it without being accused of being pro-terrorist. Never thought 1984 would start happening so suddenly.

    P.S. I love the “allegedly” modifier – the reporter can’t even admit to having seen the document.

  133. @Redneck farmer
    Well, they've got a better car than Jake and Elmo, so maybe that's a sign.

    Jake and Elwood.

    No red Muppets were in the Blues Brothers.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Missed your comment, New Jersey guy, as I had an old page loaded up, and just wanted to give R.F. a hard time about it.
  134. This is pretty funny. Clickbait journalists shilling for Jordan Peele’s latest groundbreaking masterpiece that has never been done before (ie, Possession stripped of everything good) beg an immediate question of affirmative action:

    In “Us,” Jordan Peele employs point-of-view shots to put audience members in the position of the characters, to conjure subjective and fragmentary experience that reverberates with the metaphysical eeriness of their suddenly doubled world.

    Russian hackers seeking to divide us:

    stuff every other movie does is suddenly genius because a brotha did it
    what did they mean by this

    But then on reflection, run the Lincoln commercial backwards, because it’s stupider than that:

    point-of-view shots to put audience members in the position of the characters
    Remember that according to [SJWs] like Peele and his clique, you are literally unable to do this if you are not black.

  135. @George
    "Surely there are not enough Muslims in America." There aren't enough Jews in Vermont, but Sanders was elected over and over. My guess is a Muslim would be considered an honorary non white by most of the electorate. Muslims might also be popular with typical American Whites as they are religious but not one of those religions with some sort of scandal or end of the world eschatology. I think brand White and brand Jewish are tarnished. Obama destroyed the Black branding. That leaves Muslims and Asians.

    “Muslims might also be popular with typical American Whites as they are religious but not one of those religions with some sort of scandal or end of the world eschatology. I think brand White and brand Jewish are tarnished. Obama destroyed the Black branding. That leaves Muslims and Asians.”

    Your comments are consistently bizarrely disconnected from reality. What bizarro-universe are you living in where Muslims are “popular with typical American Whites”. Muslims are by far the most disliked religious group in America (and for good reason). Evangelicals are a distant second. Also, Muslims have no “scandals”!? They’ve literally murdered thousands of Americans in terrorist attacks.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Sbaker
    Actually Muslims have mass murdered unarmed men, women, and children in at least 2 dozen countries in the last year. This has been standard practice for these Islamic pigs for centuries.. Mass murder and serial killing is standard fare for these primitive psychopaths. Blackjack Pershing was right when he captured 50 Muslim fighters, dug a pit, slaughtered several pigs, shot 49 Muslim pigs, dumped them in the pit and let the last one go.
    , @Desiderius
    The one where Omar was elected with 78% of the vote?

    Do try to keep up.

    See also the hysteria in NZ.
  136. @SimpleSong
    Well it's nice to see people stop kowtowing to AIPAC, but the way this came about (alien cultures bringing their old grudges into America while the old stock natives shuffle their feet uncomfortably...) raises some questions.

    Anyway have y'all given up on democracy yet? Electoral this and blue wave that and demographics this, everyone can see in our current system the situation is impossible for the historical American population, and we are headed towards ruin. There is no way out using the current system. Of course Plato could have told you this was going to happen, it is striking how accurately he describes the way a democracy implodes.

    America has now been a true democracy for, what, maybe 50 years? For much of its history the franchise was explicitly limited to property owning white men; then slowly expanded. In each case there was a lag between groups being given the vote and starting to vote their interests as a block. For example women got the franchise in the '20s but their votes didn't start diverging significantly from their co-ethnic males until at least 50 years later. Blacks got the franchise after the civil war but were practically limited in their ability to exercise political power by Jim Crow.

    So I would say we became a 'true' democracy with a universal franchise, everyone voting their interests, in maybe 1955-1975.

    Does anyone like the results? I think we can officially say democracy has now been tried in America, for around 50 years, and it doesn't work. It managed to wreck a great civilization that had lasted since Jamestown colony, and is in the process of wrecking European Christendom as well.

    Currently it appears the most durable form of government would be the Chinese system of ethno-nationalism headed by an absolute ruler, whose legitimacy comes from the ability to provide materially for his people (a.k.a. 'the mandate of heaven.') The current CCP looks pretty much like a modern version of the old empire, without the concubinage/eunuchs. This system has worked since the Bronze Age--the Han are still the Han, and they have slowly expanded their territory and influence over the millenia, and I don't doubt they will be here in 1000 more years. Historically the Chinese don't tend to fetishize any particular system of government or economic arrangement* ("it doesn't matter if a cat is a black cat or a white cat, so long as it catches mice"). They have never been particularly religious. But they care a lot about their co-ethnics and their culture.

    My personal preference would be democracy with a tightly limited franchise. But regardless, I think it's time to start thinking about building parallel societies that do not rely on the current system, and don't support it. It is clearly possible (the Amish have done it.) There is no need for violent revolution. If you want to kill a lion, don't fight the lion, kill what it eats, then stand back as it starves. Right now the Imperium Americanum eats white people, who are (barely) holding this experiment together with their tax dollars, their blood, and their infinite patience for brown dysfunction.

    *Yes, I know, cultural revolution, great leap forward. The early days of the CCP were pretty anomalous compared to the rest of Chinese history and I think you could argue they were having a Malthusian collapse during that period, during which lots of weird stuff is bound to happen.

    So I would say we became a ‘true’ democracy with a universal franchise, everyone voting their interests, in maybe 1955-1975.

    You can pinpoint the date as January 23, 1964. That’s when the Twenty-Fourth Amendment was ratified, forbidding any tax qualification for eligibility to vote in Federal elections.

    The American Revolution was fought because of taxation without representation – in 1964 the official policy became one of representation without taxation. The decline of the United States can be dated to when we began to allow people without “skin in the game” to vote.

  137. @Lot
    Not sure your point, but it is a good thing Israel is on Team USA.

    https://uslawblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/unnamed-30.jpg

    but it is a good thing Israel is on Team USA.

    The USS Liberty learned that the hard way.

  138. @Lot
    Sure man, Russian tech is teh awesome.

    In reality, there are no peers:

    http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal11/10101-10200/gal10115-F-22-Chuang/01.jpg

    Lot,

    Why show a model of the F-22 in Israeli markings? They don’t have the F-22. Only the USAF flies the F-22. Israel has the F-35 which is a different plane, though still made by Lockheed-Martin.

    • Replies: @Lot
    So the photo is a fake? I didn’t know.
  139. @Lot
    Syria will get right on that after it stops massacres of its own citizens and civil warring and achieves Sunni-Shiite and Arab-Turk internal peace. Any day now soon that will happen.

    Putinbots are so aroused now that Assad has the latest Russian equipment. Hmm, what happened the last time an Assad led Syrians with the latest Russian equipment:

    “Once the SAM crews fired missiles at the drones, the F-15s and F-16s provided air cover while F-4 Phantoms attacked the SAM batteries, destroying them with AGM-78 and AGM-45 anti-radiation missiles. The rapid flight time of the missiles minimized the F-4s' exposure to the SAMs. The Syrians reportedly fired 57 SA-6s, to no effect.

    By noon on Friday, when the ceasefire took effect, the IAF had shot down 82 aircraft without losing any in air combat.

    In 1991, Ivry met a Czech general who had been serving in Moscow in 1982. He told Ivry that the operation made the Soviets understand that Western technology was superior to theirs, and that in his view, the blow to the Beqaa Valley SAMs was an impetus to Glasnost and the Soviet Union's collapse.“

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1wP0LfrhGU

    http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2002/June%202002/0602bekaa.aspx

    Whew. Purim has you all in a lather. Between accusing everyone saying the center cannot hold of “Turner Diaries”, and insisting everyone having a Big Think regarding the Left and the Jews is a “Putinbot”, you must be pulling down double shifts at Hasbara HQ.

  140. @istevefan
    I guess this another one of those stories that proves the trope of Jews and Israel being overly important in US politics is false. And given there are similar controversies taking place in the UK, I guess it also shows they are really unimportant in the UK too.

    Rush Limbaugh seemed excited about this yesterday. He seems to think that these candidates not showing up will somehow seal their fate in 2020.

    You notice the one thing we aren't really discussing anymore; the border. It is literally being breached at will now, and our border agents are so overwhelmed that people are being released into the US. It's actually worse now that it was when candidate Trump was running on shutting it down.

    It seems those south of the border took Trump for his campaign promises in early 2017, and their crossings dropped early in Trump's tenure based upon the threat of what he campaigned on. But as time went on, they concluded Trump was not totally committed to the border, and so they began to come in again. They seemed to learn faster than a lot of Trump supporters that closing down the border was not happening. Many Trump supporters I talk to still think illegal crossings are down based upon those early reports in 2017.

    It seems in retrospect that one cannot talk tough on the border if one is not going to follow through. For it appears to have put a fear in those down south that the border might be closed, so they redouble their efforts to get in before that happens. And then when word gets back home that the crossing is really not that hard after all, and that you will be dropped off in the interior upon contact with US officials, that just stimulates more traffic.

    So ironically had Trump not promoted the fact he was shutting down the border, illegals would have just probably come in the numbers they were coming in the previous decade.

    It goes to show don't make threats you can't back up.

    PS. I know the media, democrats, GOPe and lower courts are all against him. But I still feel he did not put enough into the border early on. It is not all his fault. But he certainly did not help himself with his hires. Why is Kris Kobach not in his administration? Why is Kirstjen Nielsen instead?

    I won't rehash anymore. I know he is facing monumental headwinds, but he has not used monumental effort on this issue either.

    It amazes me that the Border Patrol has reverted to “own recognizance” (OR) releases directly from the station and all the oxygen in the room is being taken up discussing Israel.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    What’s amazing about it? That’s been SOP for a generation - Israel is a great distraction from everything that matters.
    , @istevefan
    What's also amazing is that guys like Rush and Hannity seem to be OK with not publicizing it. They probably don't want to get treated like Ann Coulter. I realize people like Trump and want to defend him from the many, many unfair attacks. But we also need to keep him focused on what got him elected, and it wasn't moving the embassy to Jerusalem or recognizing Israel as the owner of the Golan Heights.

    I recall in the primaries when Trump stated to the oligarchs that he did not need their money, and so would not be beholden to them. Well it appears he doesn't want to self-fund his reelection. I can understand somewhat, but he is a billionaire and he should not have to spend as much this time around. He has AF1 at his disposal and all the attention he needs as the President. He also won't have to fight any primary battles. So funding wise, 2020 should not cost near as much as 2016. And if he would just follow through on the key promise, immigration, he'd get a lot of donations from people like me. I donated a tidy sum in 2016 directly to him on his website. At this rate, I won't donate in 2020 even though I will vote for him.
  141. @Lot
    “This is a New Age, somewhat rainbow tinged god, who works with policy papers, negotiations, economic sanctions–and ocassional drone strikes.”

    Archangel Michael was an early proponent of airpower.

    Here Sir Jacob Epstein’s 1950s sculpture of St Michael’s Victory in Coventry, England.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Cathedral_St_Michaels_Victory.jpg

    Too modern for my taste. This German 19th Century one is the best, by August Kiss:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/St_Michael_Berlin_Engel_Statue_Kiss.JPG

    St. Michael in art is kind of disappointing. Some top tier artists have depicted him, but none that well. In many he looks girly. Modern folk art paintings are better, like this:

    https://www.catholicgentleman.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/st-michael-the-archangel.jpg

    One of the great stories involving St Michael is John Milton’s Paradise Lost. He describes the epic battle in which Michael and the good angels drive Lucifer and his cohorts out of Heaven. They are all thrown into the pits of Hell on which the entrance gate has a sign stating, ” Hope is lost to all who enter here.” But somehow Lucifer, who has been renamed Satan manages to escape and is free to plague human beings on the planet Earth.

  142. @jim jones
    Surely there are not enough Muslims in America to make them a group worth pursuing;

    There are enough in a few states with high elector counts.

  143. @IC8
    "Muslims might also be popular with typical American Whites as they are religious but not one of those religions with some sort of scandal or end of the world eschatology. I think brand White and brand Jewish are tarnished. Obama destroyed the Black branding. That leaves Muslims and Asians."

    Your comments are consistently bizarrely disconnected from reality. What bizarro-universe are you living in where Muslims are "popular with typical American Whites". Muslims are by far the most disliked religious group in America (and for good reason). Evangelicals are a distant second. Also, Muslims have no "scandals"!? They've literally murdered thousands of Americans in terrorist attacks.

    Actually Muslims have mass murdered unarmed men, women, and children in at least 2 dozen countries in the last year. This has been standard practice for these Islamic pigs for centuries.. Mass murder and serial killing is standard fare for these primitive psychopaths. Blackjack Pershing was right when he captured 50 Muslim fighters, dug a pit, slaughtered several pigs, shot 49 Muslim pigs, dumped them in the pit and let the last one go.

    • Replies: @res
    Any idea if that Pershing story is really true? Consensus on the internet appears to be no.
    For example: https://www.thoughtco.com/gen-black-jack-pershing-vs-muslim-terrorists-4052491
    , @anonymous
    Yeah, and you believe the whitey scum of your kind are saints, who wouldn't hurt a fly. All the stories of innocents murdered by whitey evil, in Iraq, Syria, Libya..., are simply figments of our imaginations.

    Projecting your kind's psychopathy on others, as delusional as it is, can be briefly cathartic for your rotten soul, but remember that the soul-rot will continue unabated.

    When your time runs out, and I wish you a long life for maximum soul-rot, you will basically be "screwed!" :D
  144. @El Dato

    Why such hostility from so many Jews toward Donald Trump? He will readily grovel.
     
    You have to keep the hostility up so that he grovels more. There is probably a Jewish Biblical Tale about grabbing someone's balls from behind to shake him down.

    Does he think things through, or is everything a matter of impulse with him?
     
    We will never know.

    There is probably a Jewish Biblical Tale about grabbing someone’s balls from behind to shake him down.

    There is.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_wrestling_with_the_angel

    It’s actually where the name Israel (“contends with God”) comes from. Jacob’s grabs God’s thigh (i.e. balls). Now whether he shakes Him down is a matter of interpretation.

  145. @Jack Hanson
    It amazes me that the Border Patrol has reverted to "own recognizance" (OR) releases directly from the station and all the oxygen in the room is being taken up discussing Israel.

    What’s amazing about it? That’s been SOP for a generation – Israel is a great distraction from everything that matters.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    That you have hundreds of Central Americans showing up across the street from Bowie High School in El Paso and we are still talking about Are Greetest Alley.
    , @Lot
    “That’s been SOP for a generation”

    Not really. 10 to 30 years ago most illegals were Mexicans that could be put on a bus and immediately returned.

    The new wave of Central Americans, plus some random Arabs and Africans who flew to Mexico first before crossing, all claim asylum. The numbers used to be low enough they’d often be detained. Now there is no room. This is a smaller scale of the Syrian invasion of Europe. Unlike the old Mexican migrants, they want to be caught so they can be released with housing and food benefits and work permits to get on-the-books jobs.

    Trump should simply bar entry and immediately return asylum seekers who cross illegally. District courts would stop him initially, but in a year he’d win before the USSC.
  146. @Desiderius

    Does anybody really believe that Mike Pompeo – USMA graduate, Harvard Law Graduate, Harvard Law Review Editor, Williams & Connolly lawyer, and Koch-Brothers beneficiary – believes all that God talk?
     
    Yes.

    Your question betrays your (lack of) class.

    Yes.

    Your question betrays your (lack of) class.

    Your answer betrays your naive foolishness.

    You really think that Mike Pompeo believes that Donald Trump is an Instrument of God? He was sent by God to be the shield and sword of Israel? I think he’s just saying that for the rubes back in Kansas.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    The reference is to Cyrus in the OT. You’re way out of your depth.
  147. @Lot
    Sure man, Russian tech is teh awesome.

    In reality, there are no peers:

    http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal11/10101-10200/gal10115-F-22-Chuang/01.jpg

    In reality, there are no peers:

    You’re right, I’m sure. Israelamerica has the toughest, bad-assiest bunch of armchair video-game model-airplane-building warriors the World has ever seen.

    The forces of darkness tremble:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/israel-s-first-openly-transgender-soldier-paves-way-others-n742876

  148. @Desiderius
    What’s amazing about it? That’s been SOP for a generation - Israel is a great distraction from everything that matters.

    That you have hundreds of Central Americans showing up across the street from Bowie High School in El Paso and we are still talking about Are Greetest Alley.

  149. @Lot
    Not sure your point, but it is a good thing Israel is on Team USA.

    https://uslawblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/unnamed-30.jpg

    Why would they burn something they own?

  150. @J.Ross
    I thought the same thing but did not post it when the learned counselor's case against amicable separation was America in the 1860s. Now that's relevant.
    One way or another the elite are hamsterwheeling on meth around the inescapable waterfall that is nobody wanting (or being able) to pay for all their dumb utopian plans. Separation would avoid bloodshed but the elites will demand war because their nightmare scenario is the idea that somebody somewhere is getting along without being told what to do by experts, taxed for every action by lerners, and watched by armored police.

    Good Whites will never let bad Whites leave voluntarily. As Auster once wrote, to them life is a morality play in which they must forever protect minorities from the depravities of the bad Whites. Additionally they like that the bad Whites can be used as a buffer between them and their minority minions which is why they are so keen on using housing vouchers to locate them in bad White areas. If bad Whites left they’d have to rub shoulders with those minorities and wouldn’t be able to tell bad Whites what to do or think. The thought of that would be intolerable.

  151. The GOP should continue to treat AOC as the Democrats’ head of domestic policy and Omar as head of foreign policy.

    A reporter friend was texting a prominent NYC Dem yesterday, and the politician was complaining that the GOP was doing exactly that. He said it was ‘unfair.’ Reporter asked why shouldn’t they? It’s true, and it’s working. Pol had no answer.

    The Dem convention is going to be a riot. Socialists on the floor waving Palestinian flags, shvartzes ready to burn it all down to stick it to whitey, illegals telling us they’re more American than we are, AOC and Omar in prime speaking spots saying whatever pops into their heads, Chuck and Nancy frantically trying to put the djinn back in the bottle.

    They already had socialists rioting outside the Wells Fargo Center in Philly in 2016; in 2020 they’ll be rioting inside.

    The GOP lanced the boil somewhat when Trump took over the party via the immigration issue. They managed to chase away Kristol and many other war poodle neocon shitbags, who all supported fellow neocon Hillary. The Dems are having their reckoning now, and we should enjoy the show.

    Israel is not going to decide the election. Immigration and the economy are much more important to voters. The Israel issue is good for division and discord within the Democrat party, and that discord is good for America. I hope the Israel firsters and Israel obsessives tear each others’ throats out.

  152. @Desiderius

    Does anybody really believe that Mike Pompeo – USMA graduate, Harvard Law Graduate, Harvard Law Review Editor, Williams & Connolly lawyer, and Koch-Brothers beneficiary – believes all that God talk?
     
    Yes.

    Your question betrays your (lack of) class.

    Do you find anything remotely distasteful about all the American (non-jewish) politicians who symbollically pay obeisance to a foreign state by taking part in a (to them) alien religious ritual? Bear in mind, no American politician did this until – what? – about 20 or 30 years ago. You find nothing odd in this at all?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    The faithful have found odd bedfellows among the followers of other faith traditions and needed them to weather the tsunami of arrogant ignorance of those like yourself.

    This too shall pass.

    It’s also good diplomacy.

    Plus Israel isn’t really foreign to the American Empire. Of course it is to the nation but that’s not really a thing right now.

    Would that it were.
    , @Shmendrix
    I'm Israeli, and I find the obligatory kipa-clad visit to the Wall odd af.
  153. @Jack Hanson
    It amazes me that the Border Patrol has reverted to "own recognizance" (OR) releases directly from the station and all the oxygen in the room is being taken up discussing Israel.

    What’s also amazing is that guys like Rush and Hannity seem to be OK with not publicizing it. They probably don’t want to get treated like Ann Coulter. I realize people like Trump and want to defend him from the many, many unfair attacks. But we also need to keep him focused on what got him elected, and it wasn’t moving the embassy to Jerusalem or recognizing Israel as the owner of the Golan Heights.

    I recall in the primaries when Trump stated to the oligarchs that he did not need their money, and so would not be beholden to them. Well it appears he doesn’t want to self-fund his reelection. I can understand somewhat, but he is a billionaire and he should not have to spend as much this time around. He has AF1 at his disposal and all the attention he needs as the President. He also won’t have to fight any primary battles. So funding wise, 2020 should not cost near as much as 2016. And if he would just follow through on the key promise, immigration, he’d get a lot of donations from people like me. I donated a tidy sum in 2016 directly to him on his website. At this rate, I won’t donate in 2020 even though I will vote for him.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Rush is in the same position all patriots are: we are stuck with whatever Trump feels like.
  154. @Lot
    Not sure your point, but it is a good thing Israel is on Team USA.

    https://uslawblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/unnamed-30.jpg

    They tried to burn this one:

  155. All of you know that deep down you love Ilhan. All of you would happily kiss her on the lips if given the chance. She’s done what all of you have been begging those traitors in the GOP to do for decades, you just don’t know how to express your appreciation for her bravery. So I’ll do it for all you hardasses.

    We love you Ilhan. All of us at Unz love you. We appreciate what you did, slapping Elliot Abrams around, calling out AIPAC, calling out the thieving Zionists. Keep up the good work Ilhan!!

    Everyone should donate to Tulsi, she called out Trump and Netanyahu on the Golan.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  156. @istevefan
    Lot,

    Why show a model of the F-22 in Israeli markings? They don't have the F-22. Only the USAF flies the F-22. Israel has the F-35 which is a different plane, though still made by Lockheed-Martin.

    So the photo is a fake? I didn’t know.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    The photo appears to be a real picture of a model airplane whose builder took the liberty of putting Israeli markings on a plane used exclusively by the USAF.
    , @Mr. Anon

    So the photo is a fake? I didn’t know.
     
    You couldn't tell that it was a plastic model? It was pretty obvious from the picture itself. If not that, consider the website you took it from:

    http://www.arcair.com/

    But - don't worry - you're still a better military expert than Max Boot.
  157. @istevefan
    What's also amazing is that guys like Rush and Hannity seem to be OK with not publicizing it. They probably don't want to get treated like Ann Coulter. I realize people like Trump and want to defend him from the many, many unfair attacks. But we also need to keep him focused on what got him elected, and it wasn't moving the embassy to Jerusalem or recognizing Israel as the owner of the Golan Heights.

    I recall in the primaries when Trump stated to the oligarchs that he did not need their money, and so would not be beholden to them. Well it appears he doesn't want to self-fund his reelection. I can understand somewhat, but he is a billionaire and he should not have to spend as much this time around. He has AF1 at his disposal and all the attention he needs as the President. He also won't have to fight any primary battles. So funding wise, 2020 should not cost near as much as 2016. And if he would just follow through on the key promise, immigration, he'd get a lot of donations from people like me. I donated a tidy sum in 2016 directly to him on his website. At this rate, I won't donate in 2020 even though I will vote for him.

    Rush is in the same position all patriots are: we are stuck with whatever Trump feels like.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    'Rush is in the same position all patriots are: we are stuck with whatever Trump feels like.'

    ? Netanyahu, surely -- not Trump. It's Israel you're loyal to, not the United States.
  158. Defending illegal aliens from Central America while manifesting hostility toward ethnically-cleansed Palestinians does make Democrats look ridiculous. Simply avoiding the AIPAC conference seems like a rational choice for them.

  159. @Desiderius
    What’s amazing about it? That’s been SOP for a generation - Israel is a great distraction from everything that matters.

    “That’s been SOP for a generation”

    Not really. 10 to 30 years ago most illegals were Mexicans that could be put on a bus and immediately returned.

    The new wave of Central Americans, plus some random Arabs and Africans who flew to Mexico first before crossing, all claim asylum. The numbers used to be low enough they’d often be detained. Now there is no room. This is a smaller scale of the Syrian invasion of Europe. Unlike the old Mexican migrants, they want to be caught so they can be released with housing and food benefits and work permits to get on-the-books jobs.

    Trump should simply bar entry and immediately return asylum seekers who cross illegally. District courts would stop him initially, but in a year he’d win before the USSC.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    You missed my point. Using Israel as a distraction has been SOP.
  160. @bored identity
    bored identity would just like to clarify, for the few- if any at all- on this forum, <i.non-professional, Hebrew challenged commentators that the original reads on the left billboard "The nation of Israel lives" and on the right billboard "Kahana Lives" in a reference to a banned ultranationalist party in the 1994:

    https://wtop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Israel_Elections_30329-780x520.jpg


    But seriously, what kind of anti-semiotic Israeli Central Elections Committee approved this shandful zikh-opnar ?

    bored identity smells fartsveyflung on both sides.

    The “good guys” are these serious men in Western suits? And the “bad guys” are smirking slobs with beards and wearing the traditional men’s head covering (kippah)?

    How distant is that portrayal of Likud from those Mardi Gras caricatures in Liege?

    Anyone else doing this would have to answer for anti-semitism? And Israelis do this kind of thing — to themselves?

  161. @Gordo

    She/it is their new hero even if she was genitally mutilated.
     
    I suspect many of the men commenting here are also genitally mutilated.

    It has not done them any favours.

    OT : when I was in nursing school there was once an older black gentleman admitted who for whatever reason every one assumed was sort of AFK . He had , I am told an enormous member . So word got around and throughout one shift the female staff would make their way to the pts. room to lift the sheet and see for themselves . It turns out that he wasn’t as out of it as they thought . After a good number of sightseers had come by he finally said to one of them “you girls should be ashamed of yourselves” .

  162. @James Speaks

    If that is an allusion to the old Jihadi claim that European Jews are not related to the ancient Israelites, science has now refuted this. Ashkenazi are about 35-40% descended from them, Sephardi Jews even more.
     
    The only problem with this revelation is that the people the 60% European settlers are displacing are 100% Levantine. Your people no longer belong there. It is that simple.

    Palis are rarely 100% Levantine. The Egyptian, Circassian, Albanian, and Arabian ones are 0%. Others are mixed to various degrees.

    The closest people to the ancient Hebrews are Samaritans and Syrian Jews. Next are Druze and Greek Jews.

    • Replies: @James Speaks

    The closest people to the ancient Hebrews
     
    ... except it's not important that the indigenous people be like "ancient Hebrews" which is a canard if ever there was one. The indigenous people are the indigenous people. Deal with it.

    The mighty kingdom lasted about, what, fifty years? All the rest of the stories are pure hype.

    You also forgot to mention that the whole Abraham thing was a myth, and that the "ancient Hebrews" were a subset of the indigenous people of that time. I know this is all so inconvenient for you. Be brave and finally admit that there is nothing special about your DNA.

    And about that ancient DNA. If your European Jewish DNA is different than that of the indigenous people of Palestine, then it is your DNA that is suspect, not theirs. Because they were living there, that's why.
  163. @bored identity
    bored identity would just like to clarify, for the few- if any at all- on this forum, <i.non-professional, Hebrew challenged commentators that the original reads on the left billboard "The nation of Israel lives" and on the right billboard "Kahana Lives" in a reference to a banned ultranationalist party in the 1994:

    https://wtop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Israel_Elections_30329-780x520.jpg


    But seriously, what kind of anti-semiotic Israeli Central Elections Committee approved this shandful zikh-opnar ?

    bored identity smells fartsveyflung on both sides.

    The bill board on the right (no pun …) looks like a 1930s NAZI caricature of the “Eternal Jew” .

  164. @Sbaker
    I have a friend that is a Harvard Law grad and he and his wife, also a lawyer are devout Chrisitans. Belief in God is found only in humans, not in lower life forms.

    Yeah, casual atheism is really downmarket these days. That’s why online nerds are just now picking up on it.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    I have nothing against religious faith, Christian or otherwise. And I wasn't saying that Pompeo isn't a genuinely believing Christian. I was saying I don't believe that he believes this prophetic bullshit about Trump being an annointed angel of the lord. And if you believe it he does believe it, then you're probably rather dim.
  165. @Lot
    “That’s been SOP for a generation”

    Not really. 10 to 30 years ago most illegals were Mexicans that could be put on a bus and immediately returned.

    The new wave of Central Americans, plus some random Arabs and Africans who flew to Mexico first before crossing, all claim asylum. The numbers used to be low enough they’d often be detained. Now there is no room. This is a smaller scale of the Syrian invasion of Europe. Unlike the old Mexican migrants, they want to be caught so they can be released with housing and food benefits and work permits to get on-the-books jobs.

    Trump should simply bar entry and immediately return asylum seekers who cross illegally. District courts would stop him initially, but in a year he’d win before the USSC.

    You missed my point. Using Israel as a distraction has been SOP.

  166. @IC8
    "Muslims might also be popular with typical American Whites as they are religious but not one of those religions with some sort of scandal or end of the world eschatology. I think brand White and brand Jewish are tarnished. Obama destroyed the Black branding. That leaves Muslims and Asians."

    Your comments are consistently bizarrely disconnected from reality. What bizarro-universe are you living in where Muslims are "popular with typical American Whites". Muslims are by far the most disliked religious group in America (and for good reason). Evangelicals are a distant second. Also, Muslims have no "scandals"!? They've literally murdered thousands of Americans in terrorist attacks.

    The one where Omar was elected with 78% of the vote?

    Do try to keep up.

    See also the hysteria in NZ.

  167. @Charles Pewitt
    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1109182206851928064

    The word is that the Tulsi Gabbard campaign needs people to donate a dollar or more to Tulsi Gabbard so Gabbard can qualify to be in the Democrat Party presidential primary debates. Gabbard needs to get 65,000 individual donors in 20 or more states to qualify for the debates. Gabbard is a veteran of the US military who served in George W Bush's Iraq War debacle and she is pledging to keep the United States out of unnecessary wars that do not advance the national security interests of the USA.

    Michael Tracey is reporting on presidential candidate TULSI GABBARD in NEW HAMPSHIRE.

    Tulsi Gabbard is a solid woman of reserve and dignity and she won't jump onto a counter like that hyperactive and spastic Ritalin kid Beta O'Rourke.

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1109149370673446914

    Could she be a credible threat to Trump ? Or might she do better to move right on immigration and gun control downplay “women’s” issues switch to the GOP and challenge Trump , then support him for 2020 and position herself for a 2024 run as the Republican candidate ?

  168. @Lot
    Palis are rarely 100% Levantine. The Egyptian, Circassian, Albanian, and Arabian ones are 0%. Others are mixed to various degrees.

    The closest people to the ancient Hebrews are Samaritans and Syrian Jews. Next are Druze and Greek Jews.

    The closest people to the ancient Hebrews

    … except it’s not important that the indigenous people be like “ancient Hebrews” which is a canard if ever there was one. The indigenous people are the indigenous people. Deal with it.

    The mighty kingdom lasted about, what, fifty years? All the rest of the stories are pure hype.

    You also forgot to mention that the whole Abraham thing was a myth, and that the “ancient Hebrews” were a subset of the indigenous people of that time. I know this is all so inconvenient for you. Be brave and finally admit that there is nothing special about your DNA.

    And about that ancient DNA. If your European Jewish DNA is different than that of the indigenous people of Palestine, then it is your DNA that is suspect, not theirs. Because they were living there, that’s why.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Who cares about 'indigenous?' Europeans aren't indigenous to America, but it's ours now.

    The same people who insist that Muslims get a 51st majority-Muslim country to screw up in Palestine will tell you that Europe has no indigenous people, and that anyone who says otherwise is just an Islamophobe. Every post-nationalist leftist fruitcake who wants to eradicate majority-white countries is a nationalist when it comes to the Pals.

    Of course, if you called an Arab living in the Levant a 'Palestinian' any time before about 1955 they'd try and cut your throat. They called themselves South Syrians. The people known as 'Palestinians' were of course the Jewish settlers.
  169. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Lots of interesting questions here:
    - Will Jewish voters switch to the Republican Party? Or at least stay home in 2020?
    - Will Jewish campaign contributions shift away from the Democrats in 2020?
    - Even if the answer to the above two questions is yes, will it impact the election?

    No and no.

  170. @Mr. Anon

    Yes.

    Your question betrays your (lack of) class.
     
    Your answer betrays your naive foolishness.

    You really think that Mike Pompeo believes that Donald Trump is an Instrument of God? He was sent by God to be the shield and sword of Israel? I think he's just saying that for the rubes back in Kansas.

    The reference is to Cyrus in the OT. You’re way out of your depth.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    The reference is to Cyrus in the OT. You’re way out of your depth.
     
    I've been out of touch since he stopped sending me birthday cards.

    So you're a pompous ass then. Noted.
  171. @Mr. Anon
    Do you find anything remotely distasteful about all the American (non-jewish) politicians who symbollically pay obeisance to a foreign state by taking part in a (to them) alien religious ritual? Bear in mind, no American politician did this until - what? - about 20 or 30 years ago. You find nothing odd in this at all?

    The faithful have found odd bedfellows among the followers of other faith traditions and needed them to weather the tsunami of arrogant ignorance of those like yourself.

    This too shall pass.

    It’s also good diplomacy.

    Plus Israel isn’t really foreign to the American Empire. Of course it is to the nation but that’s not really a thing right now.

    Would that it were.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    So I take it you don't find it distasteful. To each his own. You are a willing cuck. Hey, it's a lifestyle.
  172. @SimpleSong
    Well it's nice to see people stop kowtowing to AIPAC, but the way this came about (alien cultures bringing their old grudges into America while the old stock natives shuffle their feet uncomfortably...) raises some questions.

    Anyway have y'all given up on democracy yet? Electoral this and blue wave that and demographics this, everyone can see in our current system the situation is impossible for the historical American population, and we are headed towards ruin. There is no way out using the current system. Of course Plato could have told you this was going to happen, it is striking how accurately he describes the way a democracy implodes.

    America has now been a true democracy for, what, maybe 50 years? For much of its history the franchise was explicitly limited to property owning white men; then slowly expanded. In each case there was a lag between groups being given the vote and starting to vote their interests as a block. For example women got the franchise in the '20s but their votes didn't start diverging significantly from their co-ethnic males until at least 50 years later. Blacks got the franchise after the civil war but were practically limited in their ability to exercise political power by Jim Crow.

    So I would say we became a 'true' democracy with a universal franchise, everyone voting their interests, in maybe 1955-1975.

    Does anyone like the results? I think we can officially say democracy has now been tried in America, for around 50 years, and it doesn't work. It managed to wreck a great civilization that had lasted since Jamestown colony, and is in the process of wrecking European Christendom as well.

    Currently it appears the most durable form of government would be the Chinese system of ethno-nationalism headed by an absolute ruler, whose legitimacy comes from the ability to provide materially for his people (a.k.a. 'the mandate of heaven.') The current CCP looks pretty much like a modern version of the old empire, without the concubinage/eunuchs. This system has worked since the Bronze Age--the Han are still the Han, and they have slowly expanded their territory and influence over the millenia, and I don't doubt they will be here in 1000 more years. Historically the Chinese don't tend to fetishize any particular system of government or economic arrangement* ("it doesn't matter if a cat is a black cat or a white cat, so long as it catches mice"). They have never been particularly religious. But they care a lot about their co-ethnics and their culture.

    My personal preference would be democracy with a tightly limited franchise. But regardless, I think it's time to start thinking about building parallel societies that do not rely on the current system, and don't support it. It is clearly possible (the Amish have done it.) There is no need for violent revolution. If you want to kill a lion, don't fight the lion, kill what it eats, then stand back as it starves. Right now the Imperium Americanum eats white people, who are (barely) holding this experiment together with their tax dollars, their blood, and their infinite patience for brown dysfunction.

    *Yes, I know, cultural revolution, great leap forward. The early days of the CCP were pretty anomalous compared to the rest of Chinese history and I think you could argue they were having a Malthusian collapse during that period, during which lots of weird stuff is bound to happen.

    The negative part of your analysis is bang on. Historic America is finished. Whether we can be a parallel society without violence isn’t clear to me.

  173. @Arclight
    I used to think the commentators who claim we are headed toward dissolution were nuts, but as the demographic that foots most of the tax bill becomes a smaller share of the population while being asked to fork over more and more over time, I'm coming around to the idea that there will some kind of revolt against our 'democracy' at some point within a generation or so.

    Disaggregation seems impossible until one sees that it’s the only way forward for whites.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Except nukes and reserve currency. Other that that though, yeah, sure you’re all good.
  174. @Lot
    So the photo is a fake? I didn’t know.

    The photo appears to be a real picture of a model airplane whose builder took the liberty of putting Israeli markings on a plane used exclusively by the USAF.

    • Replies: @Lot
    That explains the 15ft high grass in the background.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Lockheed_Martin_F-22A_Raptor_JSOH.jpg/1920px-Lockheed_Martin_F-22A_Raptor_JSOH.jpg
  175. @MBlanc46
    Disaggregation seems impossible until one sees that it’s the only way forward for whites.

    Except nukes and reserve currency. Other that that though, yeah, sure you’re all good.

  176. @istevefan
    The photo appears to be a real picture of a model airplane whose builder took the liberty of putting Israeli markings on a plane used exclusively by the USAF.

    That explains the 15ft high grass in the background.

  177. Anonymous[310] • Disclaimer says:

    @ Lot
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/ilhan-omar-wins-again/#comment-3111007

    bored identity will snopes you with one and a half pinocchios on this flag burning issue;

    Although no auto-da-fé of The Stars and Stripes has been detected in Israel among law obeying pioneers, immigrants, or settlers, this barbaric tradition it is still considered to be an unofficial olympic discipline among some aboriginal tribes in Judea and Samaria.

    And Judea and Samaria ARE in Israel.

    As a matter of facts and feelings, the recent MEMRI study shows that West Bank annual carbon footprint would decline by whopping 38251.67%, once when Hamas decides to shutdown underground incineration plants whose only purpose is industrial-scale burning of Old Glory.

    The only downside is that local US Flags “R” Us mall would be out of business as well, so the
    restless rugrats will have to learn hardway that puting Star-Spangled Banner on fire is bad for business and life expectancy.

    As bored identity’s wise bubbie, he never had, used to say :

    “The only difference that separates savage from civilized is that former uses your flag for a torch, while the latter uses your money for the Samson Option.

  178. @Charles Pewitt
    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1109182206851928064

    The word is that the Tulsi Gabbard campaign needs people to donate a dollar or more to Tulsi Gabbard so Gabbard can qualify to be in the Democrat Party presidential primary debates. Gabbard needs to get 65,000 individual donors in 20 or more states to qualify for the debates. Gabbard is a veteran of the US military who served in George W Bush's Iraq War debacle and she is pledging to keep the United States out of unnecessary wars that do not advance the national security interests of the USA.

    Michael Tracey is reporting on presidential candidate TULSI GABBARD in NEW HAMPSHIRE.

    Tulsi Gabbard is a solid woman of reserve and dignity and she won't jump onto a counter like that hyperactive and spastic Ritalin kid Beta O'Rourke.

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1109149370673446914

    More at https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/candidates-reach-for-the-magic-ticket-to-democratic-debates-65000-donors/2019/03/19/9a1f80e0-4a4b-11e9-9663-00ac73f49662_story.html

    It seems like it might be worth a few dollars to get Gabbard and Yang (any others?) into the Democratic debates. I wonder how much opportunity the debaters will have to influence the topics discussed.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    it is wrong to spend a single cent to support someone who is pro-abortion.

    if you don't know this, and you are an adult, you were not raised right, and you are stupid.

    Read again, in case you have forgotten, what God said to the Israelites who sought help from the vile belated Pharaonic Egyptians of their day.

    The Old Testament is your friend, and if it isn't, people who know the Old Testament well are your friend.

  179. @Sbaker
    Actually Muslims have mass murdered unarmed men, women, and children in at least 2 dozen countries in the last year. This has been standard practice for these Islamic pigs for centuries.. Mass murder and serial killing is standard fare for these primitive psychopaths. Blackjack Pershing was right when he captured 50 Muslim fighters, dug a pit, slaughtered several pigs, shot 49 Muslim pigs, dumped them in the pit and let the last one go.

    Any idea if that Pershing story is really true? Consensus on the internet appears to be no.
    For example: https://www.thoughtco.com/gen-black-jack-pershing-vs-muslim-terrorists-4052491

    • Replies: @anonymous
    the number of people who understand that period of history and who speak English is less than ten.

    I am one of them, the story is true, sort of, is my best guess. Probably the orders did not come from Pershing but he overlooked what his underlings did, in an excess of zeal and hatred for people who had committed war crimes against their allies.

    That is the way the world has always worked, hopefully the world will be a better place someday, that is why God asks us to pray for justice.

  180. @James Speaks

    The closest people to the ancient Hebrews
     
    ... except it's not important that the indigenous people be like "ancient Hebrews" which is a canard if ever there was one. The indigenous people are the indigenous people. Deal with it.

    The mighty kingdom lasted about, what, fifty years? All the rest of the stories are pure hype.

    You also forgot to mention that the whole Abraham thing was a myth, and that the "ancient Hebrews" were a subset of the indigenous people of that time. I know this is all so inconvenient for you. Be brave and finally admit that there is nothing special about your DNA.

    And about that ancient DNA. If your European Jewish DNA is different than that of the indigenous people of Palestine, then it is your DNA that is suspect, not theirs. Because they were living there, that's why.

    Who cares about ‘indigenous?’ Europeans aren’t indigenous to America, but it’s ours now.

    The same people who insist that Muslims get a 51st majority-Muslim country to screw up in Palestine will tell you that Europe has no indigenous people, and that anyone who says otherwise is just an Islamophobe. Every post-nationalist leftist fruitcake who wants to eradicate majority-white countries is a nationalist when it comes to the Pals.

    Of course, if you called an Arab living in the Levant a ‘Palestinian’ any time before about 1955 they’d try and cut your throat. They called themselves South Syrians. The people known as ‘Palestinians’ were of course the Jewish settlers.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    What a steaming pile of nonsense. Post nationalism in the West was created by a power structure that that was wildly pro-Israel. Pro-Palestinian leftists have had virtually no power in the West. The damage was done by people like Lyndon Johnson, Ronald Reagan and Tony Blair who were strong supporters of Israel.
  181. Who cares about ‘indigenous?’ Europeans aren’t indigenous to America, but it’s ours now.

    So you think genocide is A-O-K?

  182. Anon[934] • Disclaimer says:
    @Peripatetic Commenter
    Are you John and Ken?

    https://kfiam640.iheart.com/content/2019-03-22-2020-democratic-candidates-autobiography-details-his-sexual-conquests/

    Maybe Dickenlooper thinks it will help him with the vital African American female voters.

    Someone wrote an article with a link on Drudge about how weird the Democratic candidates are. I think they’re suffering from the hiving-off effect. All the sane people with sense have left the Democrats by now, and the only people who are still Democratic politicians are genuinely neurotic individuals with no sense of how weird they are, because they live in a bubble of other weird liberals. 2 or 3 elections in the future, they will be even crazier. The Democrats can’t offer anything that a sane person would want-or rather, what is actually possible to achieve without destroying the economy.

  183. anonymous[342] • Disclaimer says:
    @res
    More at https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/candidates-reach-for-the-magic-ticket-to-democratic-debates-65000-donors/2019/03/19/9a1f80e0-4a4b-11e9-9663-00ac73f49662_story.html

    It seems like it might be worth a few dollars to get Gabbard and Yang (any others?) into the Democratic debates. I wonder how much opportunity the debaters will have to influence the topics discussed.

    it is wrong to spend a single cent to support someone who is pro-abortion.

    if you don’t know this, and you are an adult, you were not raised right, and you are stupid.

    Read again, in case you have forgotten, what God said to the Israelites who sought help from the vile belated Pharaonic Egyptians of their day.

    The Old Testament is your friend, and if it isn’t, people who know the Old Testament well are your friend.

    • Replies: @res

    it is wrong to spend a single cent to support someone who is pro-abortion.
     
    Perhaps you fail to understand my point? The idea is to have people in the debates who will hold the other Democratic candidates' feet to the fire on a variety of issues. Making the Dem frontrunners look bad (e.g. by forcing them to tack so far left they can't swerve back for the general) would likely serve your ends.

    Single issue voters like you are one of the reasons the GOP is so successful.

    if you don’t know this, and you are an adult, you were not raised right, and you are stupid.
     
    Now there is a good example of how to win friends and influence people.
  184. anonymous[479] • Disclaimer says:
    @res
    Any idea if that Pershing story is really true? Consensus on the internet appears to be no.
    For example: https://www.thoughtco.com/gen-black-jack-pershing-vs-muslim-terrorists-4052491

    the number of people who understand that period of history and who speak English is less than ten.

    I am one of them, the story is true, sort of, is my best guess. Probably the orders did not come from Pershing but he overlooked what his underlings did, in an excess of zeal and hatred for people who had committed war crimes against their allies.

    That is the way the world has always worked, hopefully the world will be a better place someday, that is why God asks us to pray for justice.

    • Replies: @res

    the story is true, sort of, is my best guess.
     
    That is actually my best guess as well. But I would like to know what the real story is. And some substantiation would be nice as well.
  185. @Desiderius
    The faithful have found odd bedfellows among the followers of other faith traditions and needed them to weather the tsunami of arrogant ignorance of those like yourself.

    This too shall pass.

    It’s also good diplomacy.

    Plus Israel isn’t really foreign to the American Empire. Of course it is to the nation but that’s not really a thing right now.

    Would that it were.

    So I take it you don’t find it distasteful. To each his own. You are a willing cuck. Hey, it’s a lifestyle.

  186. @Desiderius
    The reference is to Cyrus in the OT. You’re way out of your depth.

    The reference is to Cyrus in the OT. You’re way out of your depth.

    I’ve been out of touch since he stopped sending me birthday cards.

    So you’re a pompous ass then. Noted.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Arrogant ignorance exhibit bazillion.

    Natural consequence of the status anxiety produced by a sham meritocracy based on test scores and pull rather than accomplishment or character.

    The comparison of Trump to Cyrus is actually a brilliant one in the Jewish context. Don’t have to support him (and risk ostracism) to recognize that he could still be good for the Jews.
  187. @Lot
    So the photo is a fake? I didn’t know.

    So the photo is a fake? I didn’t know.

    You couldn’t tell that it was a plastic model? It was pretty obvious from the picture itself. If not that, consider the website you took it from:

    http://www.arcair.com/

    But – don’t worry – you’re still a better military expert than Max Boot.

  188. @Sbaker
    I have a friend that is a Harvard Law grad and he and his wife, also a lawyer are devout Chrisitans. Belief in God is found only in humans, not in lower life forms.

    I have a friend that is a Harvard Law grad and he and his wife, also a lawyer are devout Chrisitans.

    I once knew a woman who was about 6 feet 3 inches tall. I guess that all women are tall, huh?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Your original claim was that none are.
  189. @Desiderius
    Yeah, casual atheism is really downmarket these days. That's why online nerds are just now picking up on it.

    I have nothing against religious faith, Christian or otherwise. And I wasn’t saying that Pompeo isn’t a genuinely believing Christian. I was saying I don’t believe that he believes this prophetic bullshit about Trump being an annointed angel of the lord. And if you believe it he does believe it, then you’re probably rather dim.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    It is entirely possible that you are correct. That is life in imperial America. The idea that a USMC background means sincere faith is impossible though is frankly daft.

    In this day and age such faith means going overboard on all things Hebrew so yeah he probably believes it. If Trump weren’t such an ineffectual boomercon I might too.
  190. Anonymous[287] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arclight
    I used to think the commentators who claim we are headed toward dissolution were nuts, but as the demographic that foots most of the tax bill becomes a smaller share of the population while being asked to fork over more and more over time, I'm coming around to the idea that there will some kind of revolt against our 'democracy' at some point within a generation or so.

    The idea of dissolution does seem crazy, until you realize it is empirically the most likely scenario. When you have two populations, divided by geography, culture and 8-10 IQ points, it is pretty much a given that you end up with two different nation states.

    In 30 years, California and the Southwest will seem alien to the rest of the country. It has yet to sink in for people what an entire region of 92 IQ’s looks like in the US. The closest thing we have now is Mississippi or Appalachia.

    Think this will arrive quicker than most people anticipate for a few reasons. 1) intelligent, ambitious Mexicans will leave the Southwest, marry into the white population, creating a brain drain. Similar thing plays out in Appalachia currently. 2) Genetic screening will likely boost White and Asian IQ’s some, exacerbating the current IQ divide. 3) global warming will make much of the Southwest a wasteland, with summer temps in the 110’s.

    California becoming autonomous is probably a no-go, since it has a tourist-friendly climate and it has strategic importance, occupying much of the Pacific coast. As for other Southwest states, suspect there will be some sort of carve-out status for them, where they nominally remain states, but are closer to a hybrid of Native-American / Hispanic reservations.

    • Replies: @anon
    My argument against separation is that it cannot be stable.
    The separated Southwest states will be failure states. They will have open borders to the world and fill up with more failure people. The failure people will spill over into your state.
    Sooner or later you will have to draw a line and fight a war to defeat these invaders because they will continue to invade you even after separation.
    Better to draw the line now.
  191. @Anonymous
    The Guardian is pro-Corbyn.

    “The Guardian is pro-Corbyn.”

    Cobblers. The Guardian was pro-Corbyn in the days when the IRA leadership were round to tea i.e. when his ever becoming Labour leader was unthinkable.

    When he became leader the campaign against him started.

    “We don’t give a crap about his friendship withe the IRA, but he once shared a platform with Hamas!”

    Same with Ken Livingstone, former GLC leader in the Thatcher years. When he was upsetting Tories he was great. When he spoke for the Palestinians he was suddenly that embarrassing uncle at the family party.

    (My view is that it’s not our scrap, we have no more paratroopers to drop on Suez, and benevolent neutrality should be our policy.)

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  192. @bomag
    Small pills can have a large effect.

    There's, what?, three mosques in New Zealand, and the place is turning inside out to cater.

    Ilhan Omar has affected more debate than 430 other reps.

    There’s, what?, three mosques in New Zealand

    Unfortunately…

  193. @Mr. Anon
    Do you find anything remotely distasteful about all the American (non-jewish) politicians who symbollically pay obeisance to a foreign state by taking part in a (to them) alien religious ritual? Bear in mind, no American politician did this until - what? - about 20 or 30 years ago. You find nothing odd in this at all?

    I’m Israeli, and I find the obligatory kipa-clad visit to the Wall odd af.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    It is a little try-hard. That’s boomercons for you.
    , @Mr. Anon

    I’m Israeli, and I find the obligatory kipa-clad visit to the Wall odd af.
     
    So it isn't just me. Thanks. I would also find it odd if every American candidate for President felt obliged to watch the sunrise on Mt. Fuji, or bathe himself in the Ganges, or go to Mecca and throw pebbles at the Jamarat.
    , @anonymous
    It is hilarious what kind of iron grip of the nethers, your beggar nation has over the "greatest power the world has ever known."

    Greatest power... Lol!
  194. @Sbaker
    I have a friend that is a Harvard Law grad and he and his wife, also a lawyer are devout Chrisitans. Belief in God is found only in humans, not in lower life forms.

    I have a friend that is a Harvard Law grad and he and his wife, also a lawyer are devout Chrisitans. Belief in God is found only in humans, not in lower life forms.

    How do you know what lower life forms believe?

  195. @Mr. Anon

    The reference is to Cyrus in the OT. You’re way out of your depth.
     
    I've been out of touch since he stopped sending me birthday cards.

    So you're a pompous ass then. Noted.

    Arrogant ignorance exhibit bazillion.

    Natural consequence of the status anxiety produced by a sham meritocracy based on test scores and pull rather than accomplishment or character.

    The comparison of Trump to Cyrus is actually a brilliant one in the Jewish context. Don’t have to support him (and risk ostracism) to recognize that he could still be good for the Jews.

  196. @Shmendrix
    I'm Israeli, and I find the obligatory kipa-clad visit to the Wall odd af.

    It is a little try-hard. That’s boomercons for you.

  197. @Mr. Anon

    I have a friend that is a Harvard Law grad and he and his wife, also a lawyer are devout Chrisitans.
     
    I once knew a woman who was about 6 feet 3 inches tall. I guess that all women are tall, huh?

    Your original claim was that none are.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Your original claim was that none are.
     
    No, my claim was that Pompeo, given his background doesn't believe the kind of Christian zionist hoo-doo he was spouting. And I don't believe he does.
  198. @Mr. Anon
    I have nothing against religious faith, Christian or otherwise. And I wasn't saying that Pompeo isn't a genuinely believing Christian. I was saying I don't believe that he believes this prophetic bullshit about Trump being an annointed angel of the lord. And if you believe it he does believe it, then you're probably rather dim.

    It is entirely possible that you are correct. That is life in imperial America. The idea that a USMC background means sincere faith is impossible though is frankly daft.

    In this day and age such faith means going overboard on all things Hebrew so yeah he probably believes it. If Trump weren’t such an ineffectual boomercon I might too.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    It is entirely possible that you are correct. That is life in imperial America. The idea that a USMC background means sincere faith is impossible though is frankly daft.
     
    USMA, not USMC.
  199. @Redneck farmer
    Well, they've got a better car than Jake and Elmo, so maybe that's a sign.

    Wait, who are we talking about here?

    Elmo?

    OR

    Elwood?

    ;-}

    … and good morning to you all!

  200. @njguy73
    Jake and Elwood.

    No red Muppets were in the Blues Brothers.

    Missed your comment, New Jersey guy, as I had an old page loaded up, and just wanted to give R.F. a hard time about it.

    • Replies: @njguy73

    Missed your comment, New Jersey guy, as I had an old page loaded up, and just wanted to give R.F. a hard time about it.
     
    Never let me stop you. There's always room for more nitpicking on Unz.com.
  201. @Desiderius
    Your original claim was that none are.

    Your original claim was that none are.

    No, my claim was that Pompeo, given his background doesn’t believe the kind of Christian zionist hoo-doo he was spouting. And I don’t believe he does.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    This the first thing you’ve said about Christian Zionism. Your original question was about God talk and nothing Pompeo said would be out of place in run-of-the-mill Christianity sans Zionism.

    Maybe figure out who Cyrus was and go from there.
  202. @Desiderius
    It is entirely possible that you are correct. That is life in imperial America. The idea that a USMC background means sincere faith is impossible though is frankly daft.

    In this day and age such faith means going overboard on all things Hebrew so yeah he probably believes it. If Trump weren’t such an ineffectual boomercon I might too.

    It is entirely possible that you are correct. That is life in imperial America. The idea that a USMC background means sincere faith is impossible though is frankly daft.

    USMA, not USMC.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    And? You think that godless commies have taken over the Academy?

    Wait, don’t answer that.

    They hadn’t in Pompeo’s day though. Look, the kind of balls it takes to tell the world to fuck off I’m with Trump is rare.

    My money’s on deep faith. That’s where I’ve seen it.
  203. @Shmendrix
    I'm Israeli, and I find the obligatory kipa-clad visit to the Wall odd af.

    I’m Israeli, and I find the obligatory kipa-clad visit to the Wall odd af.

    So it isn’t just me. Thanks. I would also find it odd if every American candidate for President felt obliged to watch the sunrise on Mt. Fuji, or bathe himself in the Ganges, or go to Mecca and throw pebbles at the Jamarat.

  204. @Sbaker
    I have a friend that is a Harvard Law grad and he and his wife, also a lawyer are devout Chrisitans. Belief in God is found only in humans, not in lower life forms.

    I have a friend that is a Harvard Law grad and he and his wife, also a lawyer are devout Chrisitans.

    Just as there was no Jesus Judeo-Christ there also was no Jesus Chrisit!

  205. @Lot
    Rush is in the same position all patriots are: we are stuck with whatever Trump feels like.

    ‘Rush is in the same position all patriots are: we are stuck with whatever Trump feels like.’

    ? Netanyahu, surely — not Trump. It’s Israel you’re loyal to, not the United States.

  206. “Jihad Them With Kindness “, colorized by SABO :

  207. @anonymous
    the number of people who understand that period of history and who speak English is less than ten.

    I am one of them, the story is true, sort of, is my best guess. Probably the orders did not come from Pershing but he overlooked what his underlings did, in an excess of zeal and hatred for people who had committed war crimes against their allies.

    That is the way the world has always worked, hopefully the world will be a better place someday, that is why God asks us to pray for justice.

    the story is true, sort of, is my best guess.

    That is actually my best guess as well. But I would like to know what the real story is. And some substantiation would be nice as well.

  208. @anonymous
    it is wrong to spend a single cent to support someone who is pro-abortion.

    if you don't know this, and you are an adult, you were not raised right, and you are stupid.

    Read again, in case you have forgotten, what God said to the Israelites who sought help from the vile belated Pharaonic Egyptians of their day.

    The Old Testament is your friend, and if it isn't, people who know the Old Testament well are your friend.

    it is wrong to spend a single cent to support someone who is pro-abortion.

    Perhaps you fail to understand my point? The idea is to have people in the debates who will hold the other Democratic candidates’ feet to the fire on a variety of issues. Making the Dem frontrunners look bad (e.g. by forcing them to tack so far left they can’t swerve back for the general) would likely serve your ends.

    Single issue voters like you are one of the reasons the GOP is so successful.

    if you don’t know this, and you are an adult, you were not raised right, and you are stupid.

    Now there is a good example of how to win friends and influence people.

  209. I think she is really getting under their skin:

  210. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    The idea of dissolution does seem crazy, until you realize it is empirically the most likely scenario. When you have two populations, divided by geography, culture and 8-10 IQ points, it is pretty much a given that you end up with two different nation states.

    In 30 years, California and the Southwest will seem alien to the rest of the country. It has yet to sink in for people what an entire region of 92 IQ's looks like in the US. The closest thing we have now is Mississippi or Appalachia.

    Think this will arrive quicker than most people anticipate for a few reasons. 1) intelligent, ambitious Mexicans will leave the Southwest, marry into the white population, creating a brain drain. Similar thing plays out in Appalachia currently. 2) Genetic screening will likely boost White and Asian IQ's some, exacerbating the current IQ divide. 3) global warming will make much of the Southwest a wasteland, with summer temps in the 110's.

    California becoming autonomous is probably a no-go, since it has a tourist-friendly climate and it has strategic importance, occupying much of the Pacific coast. As for other Southwest states, suspect there will be some sort of carve-out status for them, where they nominally remain states, but are closer to a hybrid of Native-American / Hispanic reservations.

    My argument against separation is that it cannot be stable.
    The separated Southwest states will be failure states. They will have open borders to the world and fill up with more failure people. The failure people will spill over into your state.
    Sooner or later you will have to draw a line and fight a war to defeat these invaders because they will continue to invade you even after separation.
    Better to draw the line now.

  211. @istevefan
    I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but another dad became the kernel of a recent post at Heartiste

    JackD (uncharacteristically goofily; I’m disappointed in him) claims Another Dad’s idea of separation is a call for (or at least must be inevitably accompanied by) civil war.

    While the latter may be for the reasons cited by others (GloboHomo’s frothing , religious rage to dominate all), it certainly is not so by historical standards.

    Gran Colombia became Colombia, Ecuador, and Venezuela; Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and India departed Britain; Norway and Sweden separated; the Chechs and the Slovaks did it. Even even Filipinos and ‘Mericans did it. Let’s do it: let’s fall apart!

    (I might have made that clever if I had an hour to, but, hey, I’m no Cole Porter.)

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    Civil war is more likely if we don’t separate than if we do.
  212. @Colin Wright
    ' She/it is their new hero even if she was genitally mutilated...'

    The mutilation must have been relatively minor. It's apparent she's the only one in Congress with any balls.

    Her balls only look big to you Colin because you are comparing them to your own pair.

  213. Anon[148] • Disclaimer says:
    @James Speaks

    Syria will get right on that after it stops massacres of its own citizens and civil warring and achieves Sunni-Shiite and Arab-Turk internal peace. Any day now soon that will happen.
     
    The only "nation" in the Levant that routinely murders its own citizens is Israel, only they pretend they aren't really citizens, just refugees who happen to have lived there, like for millennia.

    What Israel does is called genocide.

    Biafrans killed by Nigeria 2.5 mil
    Darfuris killed by Sudan 800k
    West Papuans killed by Indonesia 500k
    Syrians killed by Assad regime 500k+
    Chechens killed by Russia 150k
    Kurds and Cypriots killed by Turkish 80k
    Western Saharans killed by Morocco 40k
    PaLie$tinians killed by Israel 24k

    Oh yes genocide indeed, and without equal I must add.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    Your list is debatable, highly suspect, but two things stand out:

    1) You smear, therefore you are ....

    2) Of all those horrble, terbil nations, only one is mostly outsiders who don't belong.
    , @Colin Wright
    'Oh yes genocide indeed, and without equal I must add.'

    Now, multiply by the number of standing ovations Congress gave to the leaders of the countries you list, and tell me the values you get.

    It's not the evil in the world that we need to address. It's the evil that we support that we have to address.
  214. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Who cares about 'indigenous?' Europeans aren't indigenous to America, but it's ours now.

    The same people who insist that Muslims get a 51st majority-Muslim country to screw up in Palestine will tell you that Europe has no indigenous people, and that anyone who says otherwise is just an Islamophobe. Every post-nationalist leftist fruitcake who wants to eradicate majority-white countries is a nationalist when it comes to the Pals.

    Of course, if you called an Arab living in the Levant a 'Palestinian' any time before about 1955 they'd try and cut your throat. They called themselves South Syrians. The people known as 'Palestinians' were of course the Jewish settlers.

    What a steaming pile of nonsense. Post nationalism in the West was created by a power structure that that was wildly pro-Israel. Pro-Palestinian leftists have had virtually no power in the West. The damage was done by people like Lyndon Johnson, Ronald Reagan and Tony Blair who were strong supporters of Israel.

  215. anonymous[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill Jones
    "And Trump must therefore accept Russia’s claims to Crimea. Does territory seized by force become one’s own?"

    You are stunningly ignorant. There is no semblance of similarity between the Golan Heights and Crimea.
    The people of Crimea voted - about 90% in favor, to secede from Ukraine and apply to admittance (actual re-admittance) to Russia.

    Where was there any "seizure by force"?
    On Golan.

    Since simply staking claim (however illegal) to the land of others is enough, I take immense pleasure that so many unwanted immigrants are staking claim to your lands.

    In fact more and more Syrians, Palestinians, Libyans and heck everybody else, should make their way to Europe. Your lands are their lands now.

    Who gives a crap about the Golan Heights, when the whole of Europe is up for grabs. 😉 Rofl!

  216. @Mr. Anon

    Putinbots are so aroused now that Assad has the latest Russian equipment. Hmm, what happened the last time an Assad led Syrians with the latest Russian equipment:

    “Once the SAM crews fired missiles at the drones, the F-15s and F-16s provided air cover while F-4 Phantoms attacked the SAM batteries, destroying them with AGM-78 and AGM-45 anti-radiation missiles. The rapid flight time of the missiles minimized the F-4s’ exposure to the SAMs. The Syrians reportedly fired 57 SA-6s, to no effect.
     

    That was almost forty years ago. Back then, American warships mostly didn't crash into things too. That was back when all the fighter pilots were men, and they didn't fly LockMart pork-projects like the F-35. I would not so casually assume that russian military technology has not improved in all that time. The hallmark of modern American military thinking appears to be arrogance, self-satisfaction, and overreach.

    Don’t forget treachery:

    Marine Corps commandant says deploying troops to the border poses ‘unacceptable risk’

    That’s when they aren’t saying crap like this:

    US general says no military threat on southern border

    God forbid these reprobates actually protect the United States; Israel and the military-industrial complex are all that matter, damnit.

    White American reverence for the military is way past its sell-by date. The brass is hopelessly corrupt, and the ranks need a good red-pilling.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    White American reverence for the military is way past its sell-by date. The brass is hopelessly corrupt, and the ranks need a good red-pilling.
     
    Agreed. I don't thank soldiers for their service. I would rather just ask them "Do you know what you are really fighting for?"

    And as far as senior officers go, the old 60s saying "Never trust anyone over 30" should be amended for the military: "Never trust anyone over Major".
  217. anonymous[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. X
    The imported brown masses won't "listen" to their masters, they will be bought off with welfare, the cost of which will be merely added to the $22 trillion debt... money talks.

    Are we to believe there are not a whole horde of white trash losers living on welfare? Yeah, right!

  218. anonymous[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sbaker
    Actually Muslims have mass murdered unarmed men, women, and children in at least 2 dozen countries in the last year. This has been standard practice for these Islamic pigs for centuries.. Mass murder and serial killing is standard fare for these primitive psychopaths. Blackjack Pershing was right when he captured 50 Muslim fighters, dug a pit, slaughtered several pigs, shot 49 Muslim pigs, dumped them in the pit and let the last one go.

    Yeah, and you believe the whitey scum of your kind are saints, who wouldn’t hurt a fly. All the stories of innocents murdered by whitey evil, in Iraq, Syria, Libya…, are simply figments of our imaginations.

    Projecting your kind’s psychopathy on others, as delusional as it is, can be briefly cathartic for your rotten soul, but remember that the soul-rot will continue unabated.

    When your time runs out, and I wish you a long life for maximum soul-rot, you will basically be “screwed!” 😀

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Objection: not responsive.

    People come here to converse, discuss, debate, and argue. To reply to a point about the viability of peacefully dividing sovereign nations into news ones with a rant that war is destructive is puerile at best, stupid or insane at worst.

    You had might as well say to a man who says pizza is tasty with "I can't stand Mongolians, and floods kill people!"
  219. anonymous[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @Shmendrix
    I'm Israeli, and I find the obligatory kipa-clad visit to the Wall odd af.

    It is hilarious what kind of iron grip of the nethers, your beggar nation has over the “greatest power the world has ever known.”

    Greatest power… Lol!

  220. Anonymous[195] • Disclaimer says:
    @M. Hartley
    Yep. It's not the number of voters you can bring to the polls, it's the number of politicians you can buy. Which number is somewhere between the vast majority and virtually all.

    Votes are one sort of power. Money is another. Mobs in the streets are yet another. The latter two are both ‘undemocratic’ but for complicated reasons only one is denounced as such. It’s a mystery.

  221. @Mr. Anon

    Your original claim was that none are.
     
    No, my claim was that Pompeo, given his background doesn't believe the kind of Christian zionist hoo-doo he was spouting. And I don't believe he does.

    This the first thing you’ve said about Christian Zionism. Your original question was about God talk and nothing Pompeo said would be out of place in run-of-the-mill Christianity sans Zionism.

    Maybe figure out who Cyrus was and go from there.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    C'mon, man! E'erbody know who Cyrus be:

    https://youtu.be/M11SvDtPBhA
    , @Mr. Anon

    This the first thing you’ve said about Christian Zionism.
     
    That's what I meant by "God Talk". Perhaps that wasn't clear. Nolo Contendere.

    I have nothing against "God Talk" per se. In fact - though I myself am not a believer - I'm all for it , if it is sincere.
  222. @Mr. Anon

    It is entirely possible that you are correct. That is life in imperial America. The idea that a USMC background means sincere faith is impossible though is frankly daft.
     
    USMA, not USMC.

    And? You think that godless commies have taken over the Academy?

    Wait, don’t answer that.

    They hadn’t in Pompeo’s day though. Look, the kind of balls it takes to tell the world to fuck off I’m with Trump is rare.

    My money’s on deep faith. That’s where I’ve seen it.

  223. @Desiderius
    This the first thing you’ve said about Christian Zionism. Your original question was about God talk and nothing Pompeo said would be out of place in run-of-the-mill Christianity sans Zionism.

    Maybe figure out who Cyrus was and go from there.

    C’mon, man! E’erbody know who Cyrus be:

  224. @Anon
    Biafrans killed by Nigeria 2.5 mil
    Darfuris killed by Sudan 800k
    West Papuans killed by Indonesia 500k
    Syrians killed by Assad regime 500k+
    Chechens killed by Russia 150k
    Kurds and Cypriots killed by Turkish 80k
    Western Saharans killed by Morocco 40k
    PaLie$tinians killed by Israel 24k

    Oh yes genocide indeed, and without equal I must add.

    Your list is debatable, highly suspect, but two things stand out:

    1) You smear, therefore you are ….

    2) Of all those horrble, terbil nations, only one is mostly outsiders who don’t belong.

    • Replies: @Anon

    2) Of all those horrble, terbil nations, only one is mostly outsiders who don’t belong.
     
    1. Its good to know you categorize Russia , Turkey, Indonesia,and Morocco as " horrible,terbil(sic) nations. Its good to have this admission for reference.

    2. You also say that Russia belongs in Chechnya killing hundreds of thousands , Indonesia belongs in West Papua killing hundreds of thousands and Morocco belongs on Western Sahara killing tens of thousands. So what then makes them horriblr , terrible countries to you if you are in full support of their occupations and genocides ?
  225. @Anon
    Biafrans killed by Nigeria 2.5 mil
    Darfuris killed by Sudan 800k
    West Papuans killed by Indonesia 500k
    Syrians killed by Assad regime 500k+
    Chechens killed by Russia 150k
    Kurds and Cypriots killed by Turkish 80k
    Western Saharans killed by Morocco 40k
    PaLie$tinians killed by Israel 24k

    Oh yes genocide indeed, and without equal I must add.

    ‘Oh yes genocide indeed, and without equal I must add.’

    Now, multiply by the number of standing ovations Congress gave to the leaders of the countries you list, and tell me the values you get.

    It’s not the evil in the world that we need to address. It’s the evil that we support that we have to address.

    • Agree: James Speaks
    • Replies: @Anon

    Now, multiply by the number of standing ovations Congress gave to the leaders of the countries you list, and tell me the values you get.
     
    Killing millions of people is ok if you don't get as many ovations . By the way despite the lack of ovations what has congress done to stop these multiple genocides ? Zero.

    It’s not the evil in the world that we need to address. It’s the evil that we support that we have to address.
     
    Every country on the list ,sans Russia gets aid from America. I guess now thats been established we start addressing the worst offenders first. Too easy mhamad lol.
  226. @Achmed E. Newman
    Missed your comment, New Jersey guy, as I had an old page loaded up, and just wanted to give R.F. a hard time about it.

    Missed your comment, New Jersey guy, as I had an old page loaded up, and just wanted to give R.F. a hard time about it.

    Never let me stop you. There’s always room for more nitpicking on Unz.com.

  227. @James Speaks

    Syria will get right on that after it stops massacres of its own citizens and civil warring and achieves Sunni-Shiite and Arab-Turk internal peace. Any day now soon that will happen.
     
    The only "nation" in the Levant that routinely murders its own citizens is Israel, only they pretend they aren't really citizens, just refugees who happen to have lived there, like for millennia.

    What Israel does is called genocide.

    I’ve just used my Agree/Disagree/Etc. quota, so I’ll have to use a Reply to say, “Troll”.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    You can smear all you want, but that won't affect the wholesale criminality of Israel. On the one hand its leaders complain about unfair press, and on then other they subject their prisoners, the rightful owners of Palestine, to demeaning and destructive practices that would get anyone in the US arrested.

    We do not tolerate collective punishment, displacement, starvation, theft of land and money, dehydration (namely pumping Palestinian water out of the ground to supply resorts), arbitrary detention, random killing by either sniper fire or by aerial bombardment, or cover ups.

    The strategy is no secret. Israel is trying to kill off as many Palestinians as they can in order to force the remaining citizens to flee.

    This is, simply, genocide. Either you do not understand, or you do understand and resort to a clumsy smear campaign b/c anything good for Israel is good.

    genocide was "a coordinated strategy to destroy a group of people, a process that could be accomplished through total annihilation as well as strategies that eliminate key elements of the group's basic existence, including language, culture, and economic infrastructure". Lemkin defined genocide as follows:
     
  228. @Autochthon
    JackD (uncharacteristically goofily; I'm disappointed in him) claims Another Dad's idea of separation is a call for (or at least must be inevitably accompanied by) civil war.

    While the latter may be for the reasons cited by others (GloboHomo's frothing , religious rage to dominate all), it certainly is not so by historical standards.

    Gran Colombia became Colombia, Ecuador, and Venezuela; Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and India departed Britain; Norway and Sweden separated; the Chechs and the Slovaks did it. Even even Filipinos and 'Mericans did it. Let's do it: let's fall apart!

    (I might have made that clever if I had an hour to, but, hey, I'm no Cole Porter.)

    Civil war is more likely if we don’t separate than if we do.

  229. @MBlanc46
    I’ve just used my Agree/Disagree/Etc. quota, so I’ll have to use a Reply to say, “Troll”.

    You can smear all you want, but that won’t affect the wholesale criminality of Israel. On the one hand its leaders complain about unfair press, and on then other they subject their prisoners, the rightful owners of Palestine, to demeaning and destructive practices that would get anyone in the US arrested.

    We do not tolerate collective punishment, displacement, starvation, theft of land and money, dehydration (namely pumping Palestinian water out of the ground to supply resorts), arbitrary detention, random killing by either sniper fire or by aerial bombardment, or cover ups.

    The strategy is no secret. Israel is trying to kill off as many Palestinians as they can in order to force the remaining citizens to flee.

    This is, simply, genocide. Either you do not understand, or you do understand and resort to a clumsy smear campaign b/c anything good for Israel is good.

    genocide was “a coordinated strategy to destroy a group of people, a process that could be accomplished through total annihilation as well as strategies that eliminate key elements of the group’s basic existence, including language, culture, and economic infrastructure”. Lemkin defined genocide as follows:

    • Replies: @Shmendrix
    Most. Inept. Genocide. Ever.

    There are exponentially more "Palestinians" than there were in 1967, and they are healthier, better educated and have a much higher standard of living. Check obesity stats for the "Palestinian" territories. www.kfc.ps

    That's some genocide.

  230. @Desiderius
    This the first thing you’ve said about Christian Zionism. Your original question was about God talk and nothing Pompeo said would be out of place in run-of-the-mill Christianity sans Zionism.

    Maybe figure out who Cyrus was and go from there.

    This the first thing you’ve said about Christian Zionism.

    That’s what I meant by “God Talk”. Perhaps that wasn’t clear. Nolo Contendere.

    I have nothing against “God Talk” per se. In fact – though I myself am not a believer – I’m all for it , if it is sincere.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Fair enough.

    Pompeo is almost certainly more sincere than the alternatives.
  231. @Svigor
    Don't forget treachery:

    Marine Corps commandant says deploying troops to the border poses ‘unacceptable risk’

    That's when they aren't saying crap like this:

    US general says no military threat on southern border

    God forbid these reprobates actually protect the United States; Israel and the military-industrial complex are all that matter, damnit.

    White American reverence for the military is way past its sell-by date. The brass is hopelessly corrupt, and the ranks need a good red-pilling.

    White American reverence for the military is way past its sell-by date. The brass is hopelessly corrupt, and the ranks need a good red-pilling.

    Agreed. I don’t thank soldiers for their service. I would rather just ask them “Do you know what you are really fighting for?”

    And as far as senior officers go, the old 60s saying “Never trust anyone over 30” should be amended for the military: “Never trust anyone over Major”.

  232. @James Speaks
    You can smear all you want, but that won't affect the wholesale criminality of Israel. On the one hand its leaders complain about unfair press, and on then other they subject their prisoners, the rightful owners of Palestine, to demeaning and destructive practices that would get anyone in the US arrested.

    We do not tolerate collective punishment, displacement, starvation, theft of land and money, dehydration (namely pumping Palestinian water out of the ground to supply resorts), arbitrary detention, random killing by either sniper fire or by aerial bombardment, or cover ups.

    The strategy is no secret. Israel is trying to kill off as many Palestinians as they can in order to force the remaining citizens to flee.

    This is, simply, genocide. Either you do not understand, or you do understand and resort to a clumsy smear campaign b/c anything good for Israel is good.

    genocide was "a coordinated strategy to destroy a group of people, a process that could be accomplished through total annihilation as well as strategies that eliminate key elements of the group's basic existence, including language, culture, and economic infrastructure". Lemkin defined genocide as follows:
     

    Most. Inept. Genocide. Ever.

    There are exponentially more “Palestinians” than there were in 1967, and they are healthier, better educated and have a much higher standard of living. Check obesity stats for the “Palestinian” territories. http://www.kfc.ps

    That’s some genocide.

    • Replies: @James Speaks

    There are exponentially more “Palestinians” than there were in 1967
     
    From Wiki:

    Genocide is intentional action to destroy a people (usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group) in whole or in part
     
    Typical (((smear artist))) response. Redefine the word, then deny the obvious. You are a very good liar, but your kind is known by your behavior.
  233. @Shmendrix
    Most. Inept. Genocide. Ever.

    There are exponentially more "Palestinians" than there were in 1967, and they are healthier, better educated and have a much higher standard of living. Check obesity stats for the "Palestinian" territories. www.kfc.ps

    That's some genocide.

    There are exponentially more “Palestinians” than there were in 1967

    From Wiki:

    Genocide is intentional action to destroy a people (usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group) in whole or in part

    Typical (((smear artist))) response. Redefine the word, then deny the obvious. You are a very good liar, but your kind is known by your behavior.

    • Replies: @Shmendrix
    Aside from you yourself redefining genocide to fit your sad little hateful agenda, your clever use of parentheses leaves no doubt as to your true motivations.
  234. Anon[180] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright
    'Oh yes genocide indeed, and without equal I must add.'

    Now, multiply by the number of standing ovations Congress gave to the leaders of the countries you list, and tell me the values you get.

    It's not the evil in the world that we need to address. It's the evil that we support that we have to address.

    Now, multiply by the number of standing ovations Congress gave to the leaders of the countries you list, and tell me the values you get.

    Killing millions of people is ok if you don’t get as many ovations . By the way despite the lack of ovations what has congress done to stop these multiple genocides ? Zero.

    It’s not the evil in the world that we need to address. It’s the evil that we support that we have to address.

    Every country on the list ,sans Russia gets aid from America. I guess now thats been established we start addressing the worst offenders first. Too easy mhamad lol.

  235. Anon[180] • Disclaimer says:
    @James Speaks
    Your list is debatable, highly suspect, but two things stand out:

    1) You smear, therefore you are ....

    2) Of all those horrble, terbil nations, only one is mostly outsiders who don't belong.

    2) Of all those horrble, terbil nations, only one is mostly outsiders who don’t belong.

    1. Its good to know you categorize Russia , Turkey, Indonesia,and Morocco as ” horrible,terbil(sic) nations. Its good to have this admission for reference.

    2. You also say that Russia belongs in Chechnya killing hundreds of thousands , Indonesia belongs in West Papua killing hundreds of thousands and Morocco belongs on Western Sahara killing tens of thousands. So what then makes them horriblr , terrible countries to you if you are in full support of their occupations and genocides ?

  236. @Sbaker
    She is a Somali, many of which are Inbred, her name is Somali Muslim for inbred and she is from a 3rd world dump. Genital mutilation is a Muslim tradition whether females like it or not. Just look at what Somalis have done with their own country and now we give them power to yield a similar result here.

    As Steve pointed out so ably recently, Omar was a member of Somalia’s privileged elite under their tin pot dictator. Her group ran Somalia (even further) into the ground and now she’s making a positive contribution to this country’s further demise. She’s quite the leader.

  237. @anonymous
    Yeah, and you believe the whitey scum of your kind are saints, who wouldn't hurt a fly. All the stories of innocents murdered by whitey evil, in Iraq, Syria, Libya..., are simply figments of our imaginations.

    Projecting your kind's psychopathy on others, as delusional as it is, can be briefly cathartic for your rotten soul, but remember that the soul-rot will continue unabated.

    When your time runs out, and I wish you a long life for maximum soul-rot, you will basically be "screwed!" :D

    Objection: not responsive.

    People come here to converse, discuss, debate, and argue. To reply to a point about the viability of peacefully dividing sovereign nations into news ones with a rant that war is destructive is puerile at best, stupid or insane at worst.

    You had might as well say to a man who says pizza is tasty with “I can’t stand Mongolians, and floods kill people!”

  238. @Mr. Anon

    This the first thing you’ve said about Christian Zionism.
     
    That's what I meant by "God Talk". Perhaps that wasn't clear. Nolo Contendere.

    I have nothing against "God Talk" per se. In fact - though I myself am not a believer - I'm all for it , if it is sincere.

    Fair enough.

    Pompeo is almost certainly more sincere than the alternatives.

  239. @James Speaks

    There are exponentially more “Palestinians” than there were in 1967
     
    From Wiki:

    Genocide is intentional action to destroy a people (usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group) in whole or in part
     
    Typical (((smear artist))) response. Redefine the word, then deny the obvious. You are a very good liar, but your kind is known by your behavior.

    Aside from you yourself redefining genocide to fit your sad little hateful agenda, your clever use of parentheses leaves no doubt as to your true motivations.

  240. Aside from you yourself redefining genocide to fit your sad little hateful agenda, your clever use of parentheses leaves no doubt as to your true motivations.

    My true motivation is to stop the genocide of the rightful inhabitants of Palestine by (((your kind.)))

    My use of (((you))) is to make clear who it is who has no conscience regarding genocide, which also tends to negate the Holocaust angle. Not that I wish to minimize the Holocaust. Quite the contrary; I think it is abhorrent that 15 to 18 million innocent people were sytematically murdered by NAZI’s. I do find it curious that (((you))) ignore the 10 to 12 million who were not MOT.

    To be blunt: I abhor the murder of 15,000,000 to 18,000,000 people.

    You use the murder of (((5,000,000) to your own ends and ignore the other 10,000,000 whom you think us as chattel.

    The definition of genocide that I quoted comes from Wikipedia.

    The term genocide was coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe;[4][5] it has been applied to the Holocaust, and many other mass killings including the genocide of indigenous peoples in the Americas, the Armenian Genocide, the Greek genocide, the Assyrian genocide, the Serbian genocide, the Holodomor, the Indonesian genocide,[6] the Guatemalan genocide, the 1971 Bangladesh genocide, the Cambodian genocide, and after 1980 the Bosnian genocide, the Anfal genocide, the Darfur genocide, and the Rwandan genocide.

    … and…

    Origin of the term[edit]
    Before 1944, various terms, including “massacre”, “crimes against humanity”, and “extermination”[8] were used to describe intentional, systematic killings. In 1941, Winston Churchill, when describing the German invasion of the Soviet Union, spoke of “a crime without a name”.[9]
    In 1944, Raphael Lemkin created the term genocide in his book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe. The book describes the implementation of Nazi policies in occupied Europe, and cites earlier mass killings.[10] The term described the systematic destruction of a nation or people,[11] and the word was quickly adopted by many in the international community. The word genocide is the combination of the Greek prefix geno- (γένος, meaning ‘race’ or ‘people’) and caedere (the Latin word for “to kill”).[12] The word genocide was used in indictments at the Nuremberg trials, held from 1945, but solely as a descriptive term, not yet as a formal legal term.[13]
    According to Lemkin, genocide was “a coordinated strategy to destroy a group of people, a process that could be accomplished through total annihilation as well as strategies that eliminate key elements of the group’s basic existence, including language, culture, and economic infrastructure”. Lemkin defined genocide as follows:
    Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups.[12]

    Typical of (((you))) to embrace an idea when it suits you and to smear someo9ne else who applies the same idea in a way that hinders (((your))) selfish, narcissistic goals.

  241. @The Alarmist

    "Surely there are not enough Muslims in America to make them a group worth pursuing...."
     
    You haven't been paying attention. Muslim immigration to the US was allowed to increase after 2001. This is how Omar became possible; this is why we have Dearbornistan.

    No, Dearborn has had a large Muslim population long before 2001. I grew up there.

  242. @Svigor
    I can think up a pretty broad range definitions for "wins" here, without trying too hard.

    E.g.,

    Scenario 1, AIPAC is seething because the Democrats are publicly shunning them.

    Scenario 2, AIPAC is peeved because they had to optics-cuck this year, tell their bitches not to come in and bend the knee for the cameras, because of the political climate in general, and Omar in particular. Some extra heat this year, but otherwise, business as usual.

    On the other hand, an awful lot of Dem candidates have jumped on the "no corporate PAC money" bandwagon this year.

    On the other, other hand, AIPAC's donations have long been carefully laundered...

    Like I said, business as usual. It was strictly about the optics. Happy merchants probably got thrills up their legs from the subterfuge, made sure to put dim lighting and extra cigar smoke in their back rooms.

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/after-boycott-claims-four-democratic-presidential-hopefuls-meet-aipac-delegates

    After ‘Boycott’ Claims, Four Democratic Presidential Candidates Meet AIPAC Delegates

    Corey Booker, Kamala Harris, Kirsten Gillibrand and Amy Klobuchar all met with delegations of AIPAC activists from their home states in Washington

    WASHINGTON – Four Democratic Senators who are seeking their party’s presidential nomination in 2020, met this week with delegations of AIPAC activists from their home states. The meetings took place after eight presidential candidates announced they would not attend AIPAC’s conference, which took place this week in Washington.

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Are elite university admissions based on meritocracy and diversity as claimed?