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From Madden 20 NFL video game:

McCaffrey, a speedy running back out of Stanford, was third in the NFL last year in Yards from Scrimmage with 1098 yards rushing and 867 yards receiving.

It’s not surprising he has NFL speed.

His father Ed McCaffrey caught 55 touchdown passes as a wide receiver, mostly in Denver. Before, at Stanford, Ed McCaffrey helped end Senator Cory Booker’s football career by being so much faster that Booker was cut from the team for his senior season.

And his maternal grandfather Dave Sime won the silver medal in the 100 meter dash at the 1960 Olympics in Rome.

But it was a good learning moment for Christian, as his mom pointed out:

 
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  1. Is there any way in which white people aren’t just … cooler?

    No wonder these other folks are so pissed.

  2. I know coaching can help some people run faster. I even saw an example of a track coach increase the speed of news reporter by instructing him to push down to increase his vertical distance off the ground between each stride but there are limits to this which is why West Africans dominate sprinting.

    There’s no great mystery to this, though there once was. Film photography was famously used to show that a galloping horse had all four hooves off the ground to reach its maximum speed, being airborne obviously increased speed.

    What is curious to me is that, if McCaffery’s height at 5′ 11″ is correct, to be so fleet of foot would require extraordinary leg strength to increase his stride.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Top Olympic 100m dash men come in a variety of heights. Usain Bolt showed, once again, that a great big man beats a great little man, but black speedsters don't conform all that much to the old stereotype of white sprinters like McCaffrey's grandfather Dave Sime and his rival Billie Joe Morrow of long and lean.
    , @War for Blair Mountain
    No...it’s the Jamaican Yams.....not genetics.....

    What ever happened to John Teeters?
  3. He failed to use SPF 50 this Summer.

  4. Notice Lisa doesn’t get the blue check. Next stop: deplatformed! That’ll teach her to be snarky. Especially about race! Which doesn’t even exist.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    She's not just "snarky" about race, savor her whole snarky tweet:


    Sorry you had to find out this way. @87ed may not be your real dad
     
    .

    This is a woman who believes race is biological!
  5. • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    He's more of a speed back than a power back.
    , @Hypnotoad666

    Isn’t 5’11”/207 lbs kinda small?
     
    Not a problem, it's more important to hit the hole fast enough when it opens so you don't end up having to push someone out the way to gain yardage. There've been lots of great running backs about that size.
  6. Is this post (and the comments) a form of modern art, like Finnegans Wake? Can someone please explain what is going on.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Finnegans Wake is Modern art, not modern art. But yeah, I can sympathize.

    "can someone please explain what is going on"

    For the best explanation, read the notorious "Night-town" episode of Ulysses.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Is this post (and the comments) a form of modern art, like Finnegans Wake? Can someone please explain what is going on.
     
    You must be far from the Madden crowd.
    , @Forbes
    Christian McCaffrey is a white football player--and is transformed into a black player in the most popular pro football video game.
    , @obwandiyag
    Yeah, it's total unadulterated bullshit. I love how these guys opine very expertly about, I don't know, size and ancestry and, whatever else I can't quite suss out (just like you, both of us unable to find an actual gist of a thread of a thrust because there is no there there), as if they have one iota of a clue.
    , @Lurker
    Glad to hear it's not just me! I have literally no idea what's going on here.
  7. @unit472
    I know coaching can help some people run faster. I even saw an example of a track coach increase the speed of news reporter by instructing him to push down to increase his vertical distance off the ground between each stride but there are limits to this which is why West Africans dominate sprinting.

    There's no great mystery to this, though there once was. Film photography was famously used to show that a galloping horse had all four hooves off the ground to reach its maximum speed, being airborne obviously increased speed.

    What is curious to me is that, if McCaffery's height at 5' 11" is correct, to be so fleet of foot would require extraordinary leg strength to increase his stride.
    '

    Top Olympic 100m dash men come in a variety of heights. Usain Bolt showed, once again, that a great big man beats a great little man, but black speedsters don’t conform all that much to the old stereotype of white sprinters like McCaffrey’s grandfather Dave Sime and his rival Billie Joe Morrow of long and lean.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    Bobby Joe, not Billie. You must have been listening to Green Day.
    , @Unladen Swallow
    Matthew Boling conforms to a similar body type of David Sime and Bobby Morrow, he is 6' 2" and 154 lbs. Following up his Texas high school success, he won four golds this summer in the Pan American Games U20 Athletics Championship ( The international term for track and field ). He won the 100m, 200m, and ran anchor leg for the 4X100 team's gold and the second leg on the 4X400m team's gold, which were both U20 records.
    , @FPD72
    I assume you mean Bobby Joe Morrow, who raced at Abilene Christian and won three gold medals in the 1956 Olympics.
    , @War for Blair Mountain
    How bout in a Jamaican-Yams-Balco-free race?

    Slightly off topic:The son of the homosexual Carl Lewis sure don’t resemble Carl at all.....very little information on the mother.....very wierd

  8. I just had to burn my Thomas Mann when I lurned from “the Times” that Toni Morrison was the greatest novelist of the 20th century.

  9. @Anonymous
    SI has him ranked 5th best NFL running back.

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/06/15/top-running-backs-rbs-ranking-elliott-kamara-saquon-barkley-leveon-gurley-derrick-henry

    https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn-s3.si.com%2Fs3fs-public%2Fstyles%2Fmarquee_large_2x%2Fpublic%2F2019%2F06%2F15%2Ftop-10-running-backs-2019.jpg
     
    Isn’t 5’11”/207 lbs kinda small?

    He’s more of a speed back than a power back.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    Yes, McCaffrey has suitable size for the type of game he plays.
  10. Lamar Jackson, QB of the Baltimore Ravens, also got the same treatment (except he was turned into a white dude)…which led to this laugher:

  11. I’m having a hard time believing that John Madden uses the word “Archetypes.”

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    I used to see Madden wandering the streets every few weeks when I was young. He was always drunk.
  12. Being an NFL running back is a good way to have a short career, not get paid real well, and afterwards have trouble walking for the rest of your life. Ask Earl Campbell.

    I predict we will see more “early” retirements like Luck and Gronk. Make enough money and then GTFO before you are crippled.

    • Agree: unit472
    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson 3

    I predict we will see more “early” retirements like Luck and Gronk. Make enough money and then GTFO before you are crippled.
     
    I hope you are right.
    , @War for Blair Mountain
    Luck’s Father....Oliver Luck was a piece shit Libertarian US Congressman who voted for the H1B...L1B Visa Program and all around increases in Nonwhite Legal Immigration....
    , @black sea

    I predict we will see more “early” retirements like Luck and Gronk.
     
    Chris Borland may be the ultimate example of this. He played one season -- very successfully -- for the 49ers, then retired due to concerns about the long-term effects of brain trauma. Unfortunately for the 49ers, he started researching traumatic encephalopathy in the off-season.
    , @Unladen Swallow
    The star WR Calvin Johnson, aka Megatron, also retired at 30 in 2016 as well.
    , @Dark
    There was a guy on the Colts' practice squad who retired after a few years. He probably won't have as cushy of a retirement as some of the guys who got paid the big bucks for years on end, but he's better off than a lot of people. I think he said he was going to travel around the US in an RV for a while and chill out.
  13. In Madden, is McCaffery’s touchdown celebration Mammy?

  14. @martin2
    Is this post (and the comments) a form of modern art, like Finnegans Wake? Can someone please explain what is going on.

    Finnegans Wake is Modern art, not modern art. But yeah, I can sympathize.

    “can someone please explain what is going on”

    For the best explanation, read the notorious “Night-town” episode of Ulysses.

    • Replies: @Vinteuil

    Finnegans Wake is Modern art, not modern art.
     
    Deep.
  15. Once in a long while…. ROTFL

  16. @martin2
    Is this post (and the comments) a form of modern art, like Finnegans Wake? Can someone please explain what is going on.

    Is this post (and the comments) a form of modern art, like Finnegans Wake? Can someone please explain what is going on.

    You must be far from the Madden crowd.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Joe Montana SportsTalk Football or GTFO.

    https://server.emulator.games/images/sega-genesis/joe-montana-sports-talk-football.jpg
  17. @Steve Sailer
    Top Olympic 100m dash men come in a variety of heights. Usain Bolt showed, once again, that a great big man beats a great little man, but black speedsters don't conform all that much to the old stereotype of white sprinters like McCaffrey's grandfather Dave Sime and his rival Billie Joe Morrow of long and lean.

    Bobby Joe, not Billie. You must have been listening to Green Day.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I have been known to.
    , @dr kill
    Did he jump off the Tallahatchie bridge?
  18. @Jim Don Bob
    Being an NFL running back is a good way to have a short career, not get paid real well, and afterwards have trouble walking for the rest of your life. Ask Earl Campbell.

    I predict we will see more "early" retirements like Luck and Gronk. Make enough money and then GTFO before you are crippled.

    I predict we will see more “early” retirements like Luck and Gronk. Make enough money and then GTFO before you are crippled.

    I hope you are right.

  19. OT (sorry) but I finally broke down and let myself be hauled away to see QT’s “Once Upon A Time In Hollywood”. Despite a lot of very dreary badly-done sequences, it was totally worth it just for Brad Pitt’s beautiful deadpan showdowns with Bruce Lee, and then the Manson Family. Greatest deadpan line in a decade: “No, it was a lot dumber than that.” Second greatest: “Yeah, I got one (meaning a flamethrower) in my garage.”

    Good Points: the “Evil Hamlet” bit, Brad Pitt visits blind Bruce Dern, Bruce Lee’s hilariously pompous monologue, DiCaprio slurping frozen margaritas while yelling at the Manson Family in his driveway, the whole Three Stooges-style counterattack against Tex and friends.

    Bad Points: the entire first 45 minutes, Sharon Tate Goes To The Movies, the embarrassing Al Pacino moment, the dreadful Playboy Mansion bit, Damien Lewis’s terrible Steve McQueen impersonation, tiresome parody of The Great Escape, and the dreadfully intrusive soundtrack at every single moment.

    Was that really a Hatori Hanzo sword? Meh, not really.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Greatest deadpan line in a decade: “No, it was a lot dumber than that.”
     
    Hanlon's (or Heinlein's) Razor:

    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.


    https://quoteinvestigator.com/2016/12/30/not-malice/
  20. @Reg Cæsar

    Is this post (and the comments) a form of modern art, like Finnegans Wake? Can someone please explain what is going on.
     
    You must be far from the Madden crowd.

    Joe Montana SportsTalk Football or GTFO.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    For those wondering what the Mega Drive is, it was marketed in North America as Genesis, the system that gave us Sonic the Hedgehog.
  21. @martin2
    Is this post (and the comments) a form of modern art, like Finnegans Wake? Can someone please explain what is going on.

    Christian McCaffrey is a white football player–and is transformed into a black player in the most popular pro football video game.

  22. @unit472
    I know coaching can help some people run faster. I even saw an example of a track coach increase the speed of news reporter by instructing him to push down to increase his vertical distance off the ground between each stride but there are limits to this which is why West Africans dominate sprinting.

    There's no great mystery to this, though there once was. Film photography was famously used to show that a galloping horse had all four hooves off the ground to reach its maximum speed, being airborne obviously increased speed.

    What is curious to me is that, if McCaffery's height at 5' 11" is correct, to be so fleet of foot would require extraordinary leg strength to increase his stride.
    '

    No…it’s the Jamaican Yams…..not genetics…..

    What ever happened to John Teeters?

  23. @Steve Sailer
    Top Olympic 100m dash men come in a variety of heights. Usain Bolt showed, once again, that a great big man beats a great little man, but black speedsters don't conform all that much to the old stereotype of white sprinters like McCaffrey's grandfather Dave Sime and his rival Billie Joe Morrow of long and lean.

    Matthew Boling conforms to a similar body type of David Sime and Bobby Morrow, he is 6′ 2″ and 154 lbs. Following up his Texas high school success, he won four golds this summer in the Pan American Games U20 Athletics Championship ( The international term for track and field ). He won the 100m, 200m, and ran anchor leg for the 4X100 team’s gold and the second leg on the 4X400m team’s gold, which were both U20 records.

  24. Without a doubt Bolt is a roid cheater….Bolt be going Tranny….just like Bruce Jenner…..And Powell and Blake also…..Maybe Don Quarrie was clean…..

  25. OMG, you mean that’s not a hoax and there really IS such a thing as a white RB starter in the NFL who’s actually pretty good?

    Someone tell Bill Bellichick to get NE to sign him when he goes to free agency.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    The Patriots already have two white guys in their running back corps. I think adding another would violate NFL rules!
  26. @Jim Don Bob
    Being an NFL running back is a good way to have a short career, not get paid real well, and afterwards have trouble walking for the rest of your life. Ask Earl Campbell.

    I predict we will see more "early" retirements like Luck and Gronk. Make enough money and then GTFO before you are crippled.

    Luck’s Father….Oliver Luck was a piece shit Libertarian US Congressman who voted for the H1B…L1B Visa Program and all around increases in Nonwhite Legal Immigration….

  27. @Anonymous
    SI has him ranked 5th best NFL running back.

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/06/15/top-running-backs-rbs-ranking-elliott-kamara-saquon-barkley-leveon-gurley-derrick-henry

    https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn-s3.si.com%2Fs3fs-public%2Fstyles%2Fmarquee_large_2x%2Fpublic%2F2019%2F06%2F15%2Ftop-10-running-backs-2019.jpg
     
    Isn’t 5’11”/207 lbs kinda small?

    Isn’t 5’11”/207 lbs kinda small?

    Not a problem, it’s more important to hit the hole fast enough when it opens so you don’t end up having to push someone out the way to gain yardage. There’ve been lots of great running backs about that size.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    There’ve been lots of great running backs about that size.
     
    Plus the big 6 ft+ defensive lineman have to lean down a bit to tackle you. It's great until you get hit going across the middle.
  28. Cardinals rookie WR Andy Isabella, who is 5’9”, ran a 4.31s 40 yard dash at the combine for third fastest and had won the Ohio high school state title for the 100m. He finished his college work early with a degree in mathematics.

  29. @Joe, Averaged
    I’m having a hard time believing that John Madden uses the word “Archetypes.”

    I used to see Madden wandering the streets every few weeks when I was young. He was always drunk.

  30. @martin2
    Is this post (and the comments) a form of modern art, like Finnegans Wake? Can someone please explain what is going on.

    Yeah, it’s total unadulterated bullshit. I love how these guys opine very expertly about, I don’t know, size and ancestry and, whatever else I can’t quite suss out (just like you, both of us unable to find an actual gist of a thread of a thrust because there is no there there), as if they have one iota of a clue.

    • Replies: @More R1b, Less H1B
    LOL, if the greatest minds in the room can't find "the gist of the thread of the thrust," there must really be no hope for the schlubs who understand why it's funny!
  31. @Steve Sailer
    He's more of a speed back than a power back.

    Yes, McCaffrey has suitable size for the type of game he plays.

  32. @martin2
    Is this post (and the comments) a form of modern art, like Finnegans Wake? Can someone please explain what is going on.

    Glad to hear it’s not just me! I have literally no idea what’s going on here.

    • Replies: @Hans
    We're looking for the Trump supporters who assaulted Jussie and bleached him and noosed him.
  33. @Steve Sailer
    Top Olympic 100m dash men come in a variety of heights. Usain Bolt showed, once again, that a great big man beats a great little man, but black speedsters don't conform all that much to the old stereotype of white sprinters like McCaffrey's grandfather Dave Sime and his rival Billie Joe Morrow of long and lean.

    I assume you mean Bobby Joe Morrow, who raced at Abilene Christian and won three gold medals in the 1956 Olympics.

  34. Back when Ed McCaffrey began his pro career with the Giants, he was the fastest player on the team, running a 4.3 40. However, he was still white. He used to joke about people referring to him as “the slow, white guy.”

  35. Anonymous[417] • Disclaimer says:

    Part of the reason for the dirth of honkey rb’s is the higher player IQ and the greed of the sports agent. The two forces at work means any other playing position than rb is the probable outcome.

    A. The agent knows the guy can play for 7+ years IF the guy avoids rb…otherwise 3 years avg.

    B. The white guy player has more future oriented brainpower and is more open to rational sports agent arguments for avoiding the rb position which has the shortest lifespan in the nfl…

    So this kid is an anomaly both physically and mentally. Not saying he’s stupid but all of the data concerning the rb position has been laid out for him and he still chooses to play it.

    There hasn’t been a DURABLE white rb in the NFL in forever. Riggins? If I were the agent I would have the guy meet with a few retired rb’s now in their 50s.

    Head full of rocks? Hands made of stone? I don’t think it’s such a great cultural victory to have him at rb. The rb position is a dumb position.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber

    There hasn’t been a DURABLE white rb in the NFL in forever. Riggins?
     
    I guess you don't count the great Italian Franco Harris...
    , @prime noticer
    "There hasn’t been a DURABLE white rb in the NFL in forever."

    Mike Alstott was the last one. before him, Merill Hoge.

    there's other guys who could do it, but they aren't allowed to play much. Zach Zenner is the guy who i think could carry 15 times a game every game, but he'll never be allowed to play. the few guys who are allowed to run the ball today, aren't as durable, and that matters as you point out. Rex Burkhead is injured every year. then again, half the african players are injured every year - it's a normal part of the position. Le'Veon Bell never made it thru an entire season, despite being one of the best players at the position. Todd Gurley was limited thru the playoffs, and that affected the team.

    the weeding out process for toughness, from high school, to FBS, to NFL, is a never discussed, but that's one of the most important parts of football ability. west africans are tougher than everybody else and handle the collisions better. people don't talk about that part much. they have thicker bones, and smaller, less intelligent brains that aren't affected as much by concussions. they come back faster from concussion protocol because of this. concussion protocol is about you returning to your baseline brain function. the smarter you are, the longer it takes you to get back to where you should be on the test. they aren't immune to brain hits and their brains get turned to mush just like everybody else, but they experience it less while it's happening, that seems to be clear.
  36. @Jim Don Bob
    Being an NFL running back is a good way to have a short career, not get paid real well, and afterwards have trouble walking for the rest of your life. Ask Earl Campbell.

    I predict we will see more "early" retirements like Luck and Gronk. Make enough money and then GTFO before you are crippled.

    I predict we will see more “early” retirements like Luck and Gronk.

    Chris Borland may be the ultimate example of this. He played one season — very successfully — for the 49ers, then retired due to concerns about the long-term effects of brain trauma. Unfortunately for the 49ers, he started researching traumatic encephalopathy in the off-season.

  37. I’m surprised everyone is being so blase about cuckolding jokes. Christian was conceived when his dad first got to Denver, so people on Twitter are making cracks that his real father is Shannon Sharpe.

    Anyway, they were never teammates, but Jason Sehorn was the last white CB in the NFL.

    Ed broke his leg in the first game ever played in the Broncos’ current stadium. This game fell through the cracks and was completely forgotten about. Why? Because it was played Monday, September 10, 2001. They were playing the Giants that night, which probably saved some lives as I’m sure some fans went to work late the next day.

  38. @Charon
    Notice Lisa doesn't get the blue check. Next stop: deplatformed! That'll teach her to be snarky. Especially about race! Which doesn't even exist.

    She’s not just “snarky” about race, savor her whole snarky tweet:

    Sorry you had to find out this way. @87ed may not be your real dad

    .

    This is a woman who believes race is biological!

  39. @Jim Don Bob
    Being an NFL running back is a good way to have a short career, not get paid real well, and afterwards have trouble walking for the rest of your life. Ask Earl Campbell.

    I predict we will see more "early" retirements like Luck and Gronk. Make enough money and then GTFO before you are crippled.

    The star WR Calvin Johnson, aka Megatron, also retired at 30 in 2016 as well.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    Barry Sanders also retired early, although in both those cases they had specific complaints about the Detroit Lions as an organization.
  40. @Anonymous
    Part of the reason for the dirth of honkey rb's is the higher player IQ and the greed of the sports agent. The two forces at work means any other playing position than rb is the probable outcome.

    A. The agent knows the guy can play for 7+ years IF the guy avoids rb...otherwise 3 years avg.

    B. The white guy player has more future oriented brainpower and is more open to rational sports agent arguments for avoiding the rb position which has the shortest lifespan in the nfl...

    So this kid is an anomaly both physically and mentally. Not saying he's stupid but all of the data concerning the rb position has been laid out for him and he still chooses to play it.

    There hasn't been a DURABLE white rb in the NFL in forever. Riggins? If I were the agent I would have the guy meet with a few retired rb's now in their 50s.

    Head full of rocks? Hands made of stone? I don't think it's such a great cultural victory to have him at rb. The rb position is a dumb position.

    There hasn’t been a DURABLE white rb in the NFL in forever. Riggins?

    I guess you don’t count the great Italian Franco Harris…

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    Judging by his doppelgangers, Franco might have been Jewish (Gabe Kaplan) or Saudi (Prince Salman).
  41. Why can’t there be legal penalties for adulturous women? In medieval times it made sense for a man to take care of his wife’s kid. Now, it’s just collusion between liberals and bible thumpers. It’s just really theft. People are in jail right now for far less.

    • Replies: @BB753
    In classical Athens, the penalty for adultery was death for the adulterer and social death for the adulteress. Nowadays, for a woman to have an affair is like winning the jackpot: you get the house, the kids, alimony, and a sizable chunk of the cuckolded husband's asset as a reward. And she can keep boffing her beau, even invite him in her marital home. The incentive is there. It wouldn't surprise me if 90% of women today were unfaithful. I'd do it too if I were a woman. But for a man to be adulterous is plain suicide. Oh, the joys of heteropatriarchy!
  42. @Ron Mexico
    Bobby Joe, not Billie. You must have been listening to Green Day.

    I have been known to.

  43. @Lurker
    Glad to hear it's not just me! I have literally no idea what's going on here.

    We’re looking for the Trump supporters who assaulted Jussie and bleached him and noosed him.

  44. @obwandiyag
    Yeah, it's total unadulterated bullshit. I love how these guys opine very expertly about, I don't know, size and ancestry and, whatever else I can't quite suss out (just like you, both of us unable to find an actual gist of a thread of a thrust because there is no there there), as if they have one iota of a clue.

    LOL, if the greatest minds in the room can’t find “the gist of the thread of the thrust,” there must really be no hope for the schlubs who understand why it’s funny!

  45. @South Texas Guy
    Why can't there be legal penalties for adulturous women? In medieval times it made sense for a man to take care of his wife's kid. Now, it's just collusion between liberals and bible thumpers. It's just really theft. People are in jail right now for far less.

    In classical Athens, the penalty for adultery was death for the adulterer and social death for the adulteress. Nowadays, for a woman to have an affair is like winning the jackpot: you get the house, the kids, alimony, and a sizable chunk of the cuckolded husband’s asset as a reward. And she can keep boffing her beau, even invite him in her marital home. The incentive is there. It wouldn’t surprise me if 90% of women today were unfaithful. I’d do it too if I were a woman. But for a man to be adulterous is plain suicide. Oh, the joys of heteropatriarchy!

  46. @Steve Sailer
    Top Olympic 100m dash men come in a variety of heights. Usain Bolt showed, once again, that a great big man beats a great little man, but black speedsters don't conform all that much to the old stereotype of white sprinters like McCaffrey's grandfather Dave Sime and his rival Billie Joe Morrow of long and lean.

    How bout in a Jamaican-Yams-Balco-free race?

    Slightly off topic:The son of the homosexual Carl Lewis sure don’t resemble Carl at all…..very little information on the mother…..very wierd

  47. @Jim Don Bob
    Being an NFL running back is a good way to have a short career, not get paid real well, and afterwards have trouble walking for the rest of your life. Ask Earl Campbell.

    I predict we will see more "early" retirements like Luck and Gronk. Make enough money and then GTFO before you are crippled.

    There was a guy on the Colts’ practice squad who retired after a few years. He probably won’t have as cushy of a retirement as some of the guys who got paid the big bucks for years on end, but he’s better off than a lot of people. I think he said he was going to travel around the US in an RV for a while and chill out.

  48. @Unladen Swallow
    The star WR Calvin Johnson, aka Megatron, also retired at 30 in 2016 as well.

    Barry Sanders also retired early, although in both those cases they had specific complaints about the Detroit Lions as an organization.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    I don't think Barry Sanders "retired early." He had played 10 seasons and averaged 4.3 yards per carry in 1998, low for him. Sanders would have been 31 in 1999 had he played an 11th year.

    And the Lions were nowhere near being a Super Bowl contender, which also played a role in Sanders leaving the game.
  49. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    OMG, you mean that’s not a hoax and there really IS such a thing as a white RB starter in the NFL who’s actually pretty good?

    Someone tell Bill Bellichick to get NE to sign him when he goes to free agency.

    The Patriots already have two white guys in their running back corps. I think adding another would violate NFL rules!

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    The Patriots have consistently had more white players and starting white players than any other team in the league, this goes back to the beginning of Belichick's tenure in New England. Since they have been to 4 out of the last 5 Super Bowls and won 3 of them you would think the rest of the league would take notice. The Colts during the Manning era where similar in having more white players than the league average as well, but I don't think they have since he left.
  50. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    OT (sorry) but I finally broke down and let myself be hauled away to see QT's "Once Upon A Time In Hollywood". Despite a lot of very dreary badly-done sequences, it was totally worth it just for Brad Pitt's beautiful deadpan showdowns with Bruce Lee, and then the Manson Family. Greatest deadpan line in a decade: "No, it was a lot dumber than that." Second greatest: "Yeah, I got one (meaning a flamethrower) in my garage."

    Good Points: the "Evil Hamlet" bit, Brad Pitt visits blind Bruce Dern, Bruce Lee's hilariously pompous monologue, DiCaprio slurping frozen margaritas while yelling at the Manson Family in his driveway, the whole Three Stooges-style counterattack against Tex and friends.

    Bad Points: the entire first 45 minutes, Sharon Tate Goes To The Movies, the embarrassing Al Pacino moment, the dreadful Playboy Mansion bit, Damien Lewis's terrible Steve McQueen impersonation, tiresome parody of The Great Escape, and the dreadfully intrusive soundtrack at every single moment.

    Was that really a Hatori Hanzo sword? Meh, not really.

    Greatest deadpan line in a decade: “No, it was a lot dumber than that.”

    Hanlon’s (or Heinlein’s) Razor:

    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

    https://quoteinvestigator.com/2016/12/30/not-malice/

  51. Ed McCaffrey was a weird dude. He wore children’s shoulder pads, and almost no other pads. To shed weight, he even wore shoes that were too small; he cut an x in the end so he could get his toes in.

    “That’s why Ed and I got together–so we could breed fast white guys.”. -Lisa McCaffrey, when Christian was two years old

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
    Did Mrs. McCaffrey run track or something? She looks sporty in the family pic.
    , @Dennis Dale
    I don't think you understand what "weird" means. Or "commitment".
    , @ScarletNumber
    Also, as stated multiple times on this blog, including in the OP, Mrs. McCaffrey's father won the silver medal in the 100m dash in Rome 60.
  52. @Barnard
    Barry Sanders also retired early, although in both those cases they had specific complaints about the Detroit Lions as an organization.

    I don’t think Barry Sanders “retired early.” He had played 10 seasons and averaged 4.3 yards per carry in 1998, low for him. Sanders would have been 31 in 1999 had he played an 11th year.

    And the Lions were nowhere near being a Super Bowl contender, which also played a role in Sanders leaving the game.

  53. @Anonymous
    Part of the reason for the dirth of honkey rb's is the higher player IQ and the greed of the sports agent. The two forces at work means any other playing position than rb is the probable outcome.

    A. The agent knows the guy can play for 7+ years IF the guy avoids rb...otherwise 3 years avg.

    B. The white guy player has more future oriented brainpower and is more open to rational sports agent arguments for avoiding the rb position which has the shortest lifespan in the nfl...

    So this kid is an anomaly both physically and mentally. Not saying he's stupid but all of the data concerning the rb position has been laid out for him and he still chooses to play it.

    There hasn't been a DURABLE white rb in the NFL in forever. Riggins? If I were the agent I would have the guy meet with a few retired rb's now in their 50s.

    Head full of rocks? Hands made of stone? I don't think it's such a great cultural victory to have him at rb. The rb position is a dumb position.

    “There hasn’t been a DURABLE white rb in the NFL in forever.”

    Mike Alstott was the last one. before him, Merill Hoge.

    there’s other guys who could do it, but they aren’t allowed to play much. Zach Zenner is the guy who i think could carry 15 times a game every game, but he’ll never be allowed to play. the few guys who are allowed to run the ball today, aren’t as durable, and that matters as you point out. Rex Burkhead is injured every year. then again, half the african players are injured every year – it’s a normal part of the position. Le’Veon Bell never made it thru an entire season, despite being one of the best players at the position. Todd Gurley was limited thru the playoffs, and that affected the team.

    the weeding out process for toughness, from high school, to FBS, to NFL, is a never discussed, but that’s one of the most important parts of football ability. west africans are tougher than everybody else and handle the collisions better. people don’t talk about that part much. they have thicker bones, and smaller, less intelligent brains that aren’t affected as much by concussions. they come back faster from concussion protocol because of this. concussion protocol is about you returning to your baseline brain function. the smarter you are, the longer it takes you to get back to where you should be on the test. they aren’t immune to brain hits and their brains get turned to mush just like everybody else, but they experience it less while it’s happening, that seems to be clear.

    • Replies: @GU
    I strongly disagree that black football players are tougher than white (or other race) football players. West African blacks (as a group, individual cases vary) have the best traits to excel in football, with notable exceptions being QB, kicker, and punter. When you are the most gifted, you don’t have to be the toughest to succeed.

    The guys who are less physically gifted but who make the team and earn playing time anyway are the toughest. Put another way, toughness is the ability to suffer pain and physical adversity and keep on going. The most gifted players (usually black) are mostly dealing out the punishment, not taking it.

    In my personal experience playing high school football and college rugby (admittedly not the same as NFL), blacks relish dishing out punishment but have less tolerance than whites for taking some of their own medicine. It may just be less of a team orientation than a lack of toughness, but I’ve noticed a similar pattern in viewing MMA.
  54. @ScarletNumber

    There hasn’t been a DURABLE white rb in the NFL in forever. Riggins?
     
    I guess you don't count the great Italian Franco Harris...

    Judging by his doppelgangers, Franco might have been Jewish (Gabe Kaplan) or Saudi (Prince Salman).

  55. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Finnegans Wake is Modern art, not modern art. But yeah, I can sympathize.

    "can someone please explain what is going on"

    For the best explanation, read the notorious "Night-town" episode of Ulysses.

    Finnegans Wake is Modern art, not modern art.

    Deep.

  56. @Brutusale
    The Patriots already have two white guys in their running back corps. I think adding another would violate NFL rules!

    The Patriots have consistently had more white players and starting white players than any other team in the league, this goes back to the beginning of Belichick’s tenure in New England. Since they have been to 4 out of the last 5 Super Bowls and won 3 of them you would think the rest of the league would take notice. The Colts during the Manning era where similar in having more white players than the league average as well, but I don’t think they have since he left.

  57. @Hypnotoad666

    Isn’t 5’11”/207 lbs kinda small?
     
    Not a problem, it's more important to hit the hole fast enough when it opens so you don't end up having to push someone out the way to gain yardage. There've been lots of great running backs about that size.

    There’ve been lots of great running backs about that size.

    Plus the big 6 ft+ defensive lineman have to lean down a bit to tackle you. It’s great until you get hit going across the middle.

  58. @Ozymandias
    Ed McCaffrey was a weird dude. He wore children's shoulder pads, and almost no other pads. To shed weight, he even wore shoes that were too small; he cut an x in the end so he could get his toes in.

    "That's why Ed and I got together--so we could breed fast white guys.". -Lisa McCaffrey, when Christian was two years old

    Did Mrs. McCaffrey run track or something? She looks sporty in the family pic.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Mrs. McCaffrey played soccer in college.
  59. @Lockean Proviso
    Did Mrs. McCaffrey run track or something? She looks sporty in the family pic.

    Mrs. McCaffrey played soccer in college.

  60. @Ron Mexico
    Bobby Joe, not Billie. You must have been listening to Green Day.

    Did he jump off the Tallahatchie bridge?

  61. @prime noticer
    "There hasn’t been a DURABLE white rb in the NFL in forever."

    Mike Alstott was the last one. before him, Merill Hoge.

    there's other guys who could do it, but they aren't allowed to play much. Zach Zenner is the guy who i think could carry 15 times a game every game, but he'll never be allowed to play. the few guys who are allowed to run the ball today, aren't as durable, and that matters as you point out. Rex Burkhead is injured every year. then again, half the african players are injured every year - it's a normal part of the position. Le'Veon Bell never made it thru an entire season, despite being one of the best players at the position. Todd Gurley was limited thru the playoffs, and that affected the team.

    the weeding out process for toughness, from high school, to FBS, to NFL, is a never discussed, but that's one of the most important parts of football ability. west africans are tougher than everybody else and handle the collisions better. people don't talk about that part much. they have thicker bones, and smaller, less intelligent brains that aren't affected as much by concussions. they come back faster from concussion protocol because of this. concussion protocol is about you returning to your baseline brain function. the smarter you are, the longer it takes you to get back to where you should be on the test. they aren't immune to brain hits and their brains get turned to mush just like everybody else, but they experience it less while it's happening, that seems to be clear.

    I strongly disagree that black football players are tougher than white (or other race) football players. West African blacks (as a group, individual cases vary) have the best traits to excel in football, with notable exceptions being QB, kicker, and punter. When you are the most gifted, you don’t have to be the toughest to succeed.

    The guys who are less physically gifted but who make the team and earn playing time anyway are the toughest. Put another way, toughness is the ability to suffer pain and physical adversity and keep on going. The most gifted players (usually black) are mostly dealing out the punishment, not taking it.

    In my personal experience playing high school football and college rugby (admittedly not the same as NFL), blacks relish dishing out punishment but have less tolerance than whites for taking some of their own medicine. It may just be less of a team orientation than a lack of toughness, but I’ve noticed a similar pattern in viewing MMA.

    • Replies: @Charon
    Telling facts.
  62. @Ozymandias
    Ed McCaffrey was a weird dude. He wore children's shoulder pads, and almost no other pads. To shed weight, he even wore shoes that were too small; he cut an x in the end so he could get his toes in.

    "That's why Ed and I got together--so we could breed fast white guys.". -Lisa McCaffrey, when Christian was two years old

    I don’t think you understand what “weird” means. Or “commitment”.

  63. @GU
    I strongly disagree that black football players are tougher than white (or other race) football players. West African blacks (as a group, individual cases vary) have the best traits to excel in football, with notable exceptions being QB, kicker, and punter. When you are the most gifted, you don’t have to be the toughest to succeed.

    The guys who are less physically gifted but who make the team and earn playing time anyway are the toughest. Put another way, toughness is the ability to suffer pain and physical adversity and keep on going. The most gifted players (usually black) are mostly dealing out the punishment, not taking it.

    In my personal experience playing high school football and college rugby (admittedly not the same as NFL), blacks relish dishing out punishment but have less tolerance than whites for taking some of their own medicine. It may just be less of a team orientation than a lack of toughness, but I’ve noticed a similar pattern in viewing MMA.

    Telling facts.

  64. @Ozymandias
    Ed McCaffrey was a weird dude. He wore children's shoulder pads, and almost no other pads. To shed weight, he even wore shoes that were too small; he cut an x in the end so he could get his toes in.

    "That's why Ed and I got together--so we could breed fast white guys.". -Lisa McCaffrey, when Christian was two years old

    Also, as stated multiple times on this blog, including in the OP, Mrs. McCaffrey’s father won the silver medal in the 100m dash in Rome 60.

  65. @Lot
    Joe Montana SportsTalk Football or GTFO.

    https://server.emulator.games/images/sega-genesis/joe-montana-sports-talk-football.jpg

    For those wondering what the Mega Drive is, it was marketed in North America as Genesis, the system that gave us Sonic the Hedgehog.

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