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I knew the Alt Lite was a shit show, but this is “wow just wow” territory.

Here is the expose by Milo Yiannopoulos on the Alt Lite’s video editors Caolan Robertson and George Llewelyn-John: https://www.dangerous.com/50638/say-farewell-to-the-klepto-queens-of-the-british-far-right/

‣ Stole Bitcoin worth $20,000 from Tommy Robinson, while the activist was in jail, to fund their jet-set lifestyle
‣ Booked a luxury Airbnb and bought six bottles of Dom Pérignon champagne on Tommy Robinson’s wife’s credit card
‣ Swapped camera equipment worth thousands of dollars for second-hand models they found on eBay
‣ Worked with Hope not Hate, an Antifa-affiliated far-Left organization, for years
‣ Defrauded Alex Jones with inflated expense claims
‣ Risked the life of Tommy Robinson by sharing his location with Hope not Hate
‣ Risked the life of Gavin McInnes by sharing his travel itinerary with the same group
‣ Circulated a fake “email leak” about Milo Yiannopoulos, doxing his husband—while being paid by Yiannopoulos’s tour operator for PR work

‣ Defrauded Lauren Southern with inflated invoices—while being paid by her to produce a documentary
‣ Defrauded rental companies by failing to return equipment and returning inferior models and broken units
‣ Made a fake rape claim against a far-Left activist
‣ Bragged about having TV shows canceled with bogus suicide threats
‣ Doctored their clients’ videos to embarrass them, including pitch shifting male voices upward
‣ Gloated about their exploits while showering far-Left activists with gifts, food and drinks at London’s most expensive hotels—paid for by the conservatives they were working with
‣ Shared their misdeeds with Lauren Southern, who laughed and egged them on

‣ Disavowed Southern and Robinson when we challenged them about their crimes, claiming they’d been ‘radicalized’ by the far right online

Basically there were at least three people in the Alt Lite – Tommy Robinson, Lauren Southern, and Milo himself – who retained the services of these degenerates well past the point at which anyone else would have bailed.

In particular, there are further allegations that Lauren went beyond just willful blindness, and used their help in destroying rivals in the movement. Though that didn’t prevent them from scamming her as well.

Funnily enough, it is Zionist-chan Laura Loomer who comes off looking the least bad of the lot:

But one thing that hasn’t changed is Robertson’s taste for the finer things in life—so long as someone else is paying. Investigative journalist Laura Loomer met Robertson in January 2019 about a potential filming project. She says Robertson kept pushing her to book a more expensive restaurant, and, when they got there, ordered bottles of champagne and expected her to cover the $800 check. “He kept pressuring me to drink, saying, ‘It’s hard to trust people who don’t drink,’” she remembers. “I said, too fucking bad.”

Loomer insisted that they split the bill, whereupon Robertson turned to the table next to them and proceeded to invent an outlandish yarn out of nowhere. “He told them a sob story about how he and his husband were getting a divorce,” Loomer recalls. He told them he thought George would kill himself and they felt bad for him so they kept buying him drinks. It was so fucking weird. He was lying right in front of my face, telling the couple he had a condo on Wall Street when we were staying at a local Hilton.” Loomer said that’s when she got up and left in disgust.

Anyhow, there’s seriously too many WTF moments like these to adequately summarize it all. Just read the whole thing if you like drama.

I am not sure about the extent to which I buy the argument that these two grifters were only kept on by all these people on account of their video editing prowess. It’s not that rare of a talent.

Surely not to the extent that people would pay $10,000’s to support their addictions to luxury spas and Dom Perignon, anyway.

My guess is that Caolan Robertson was one of those people, like Trump, who maxed out their the Charisma stats, enabling him to hold people in his thrall well past the moment when all warning lights should have been flashing red.

Also reminder that Tommy Robinson has a thing for trannies:

Perhaps they entertained them for so long to prove that it is the leftists who are the real transphobes.

 
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  1. Please keep off topic posts to the current Open Thread.

    If you are new to my work, start here.

  2. Mark [Collett] was in the BNP for its formative years in the early 2000s and he talks about an almost identical incident where an infiltrator ended up getting people imprisoned and they were only able to do it because a more respected member vouched for them. That’s exactly what Lauren did for the two sodomites. I think the Canadian right is just fucked and filled with charlatans trying to bank on American conservatives

    http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/215898693/#q215901673

    • Agree: Kent Nationalist
    • Replies: @El Dato
    Dat /pol/ thread. I haven't been over there in some time.

    http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/215898693/#q215908306

    >>215907605
    It's not a coincidence those two [Brittany Pettibone and Martin Sellner] have essentially cut her [Lauren] off not been seen together for almost 12 months.

    Lauren appears and this happens to Martin and Brittany:

    >Rapidly growing organisation
    >She gets full access to the inner workings of the organisation
    >Meets and secretly records ALL leaders and branch leaders across Europe via Caolan.
    >Martin and Britt get arrested,detained in a migrant centre and banned from the UK for "extremist views"(apparently pro ethnic European is extreme) while trying to attend the opening of GI England
    >GI Austria gets raided by authorities for "criminial activities" after evidence from a "tip off"
    >Major trial to prove or disprove GI are a criminal group(Later found not guilty but new seperate individual trials are ongoing)
    >GI leaders being firebombed by antifa on a regular basis in Germany,Austria and France.
    >Getting shut down by every major company. For example Martin has had 15 banks shut their accounts with him.
     
    Something something Julia got Winston first.
  3. Not so long ago people in these circles were very paranoid about sophisticated fed impostors and infiltrators.
    Turns out the rot inside was infinitely more basic bitch, sort of like with Heimbach, lol.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    ..... and Richard Spencer's marriage problems.
    ..... and Eli Moseley lying about being in the military.
    ..... and leading their supporters into Unite the Right.
    ..... and throwing the Roman salute just when they were gathered to take the alt-right to the next level.
    .... and having anything to do with Chris Cantwell.
    .... and Andrew Anglin crowing about having friends inside Cloudflare.

    The list really does go on.
  4. Anatoly, as a Russian you should be more sceptical of some faggot’s blog.

    I couldn’t care less about the two faggots – their reputation was already low, what with being faggots and all. And if they did credit card and other financial fraud, there should be court cases about this.

    But I really don’t like the attacks on Lauren, based just on some faggot’s blog. Call me a white knight or whatever, tell me “she’ll never sleep with you brah” – as if the people attacking her are not just bitter that they will never sleep with her.

    Ultimately, we have the things we know for certain, and other things that are just rumors. A tree is known by its fruits. Lauren has produced two excellent and important documentaries, she did valuable journalism even back when she was employed by the kikes at Rebel Media.
    Attacking her based on a blogpost by fucking Milo that’s quite literally about gay intrigue is disgraceful.
    And even if some, or even all, allegations were true , her worth must still be judged along with all of her positive contributions weighted against that.

    In one of the twitter threads someone also mentioned a gangbang video of Brittany Pettibone that noone has (as if it wouldn’t spread like fire on /pol/ if someone had it) but everybody started basically posting what a fucking whore she is and how they always knew.
    I have no words how retarded this is. And I’m not talking about the leftist infiltrators who are certainly among the people eagerly agreeing with any rumor, the more disgusting the better.

    • Agree: Thulean Friend
    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    I think I rather expressly reserved judgment about Lauren, only pointing out that these are allegations about her. (That's one of the central claims here, after all).

    But certainly there are some people obsessed with the WQ.

    https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1138123528891437056
    , @Mitleser

    I couldn’t care less about the two faggots
     
    But Lauren did and that is the problem.

    Supposedly, she kept paying them because Borderless wasn't finished yet, and she was completely reliant upon them for it to get done.

    I remember them dragging their feet on Farmlands, too. Specifically when Generation Identity did an action on the French border, Southern was there with Brittany Pettibone talking about it. At one point she looked off camera and said, "Caolan is here too, though I'm not sure why." since he was supposed to be getting Farmlands done, since it was already overdue.
     
    http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/215898693/#q215908805
  5. @Spisarevski
    Anatoly, as a Russian you should be more sceptical of some faggot's blog.

    https://i.imgur.com/bIZNaUs.png

    I couldn't care less about the two faggots - their reputation was already low, what with being faggots and all. And if they did credit card and other financial fraud, there should be court cases about this.

    But I really don't like the attacks on Lauren, based just on some faggot's blog. Call me a white knight or whatever, tell me "she'll never sleep with you brah" - as if the people attacking her are not just bitter that they will never sleep with her.

    Ultimately, we have the things we know for certain, and other things that are just rumors. A tree is known by its fruits. Lauren has produced two excellent and important documentaries, she did valuable journalism even back when she was employed by the kikes at Rebel Media.
    Attacking her based on a blogpost by fucking Milo that's quite literally about gay intrigue is disgraceful.
    And even if some, or even all, allegations were true , her worth must still be judged along with all of her positive contributions weighted against that.

    In one of the twitter threads someone also mentioned a gangbang video of Brittany Pettibone that noone has (as if it wouldn't spread like fire on /pol/ if someone had it) but everybody started basically posting what a fucking whore she is and how they always knew.
    I have no words how retarded this is. And I'm not talking about the leftist infiltrators who are certainly among the people eagerly agreeing with any rumor, the more disgusting the better.

    I think I rather expressly reserved judgment about Lauren, only pointing out that these are allegations about her. (That’s one of the central claims here, after all).

    But certainly there are some people obsessed with the WQ.

    • Agree: Spisarevski, Anonymoose
    • Replies: @Anonymoose
    The eternal affluent white woman
    , @Rosie
    On what grounds does Roosh claim that Southern's misconduct (if there is any) rules out the idea of women leading anything? Men disgrace the movement all the time for various reasons. There are too few women in the movement to draw any such conclusion.
    , @Dmitry
    That Twitter is Roosh - the same scamming brown immigrant to America we talked about here:
    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/based-putler/#comment-3244420

    After I watched the Ukrainian talkshow video of him on YouTube - YouTube started putting his videos on my recommended videos for about a week. I didn't want to clear cookies, but after a few days YouTube stops recommending them to me.

    The issue here is instead solving his real life problem (washing regularly, having a hair cut, etc), he spams YouTube with videos of his face, which YouTube then promotes to people who do not want to watch him.

    It's predictable his emotions on Twitter will feel angry that this woman is having sex with men, just as a symptom that women do not want to have sex with him except when he pays for prostitutes in Ukraine.

    , @neutral
    Roosh is a middle easterner, Louren Southern is an Aryan. Call it "white knighting", or whatever new terminology is used these days, but I would never pick a non white male over a white female as a leader.
  6. @Spisarevski
    Anatoly, as a Russian you should be more sceptical of some faggot's blog.

    https://i.imgur.com/bIZNaUs.png

    I couldn't care less about the two faggots - their reputation was already low, what with being faggots and all. And if they did credit card and other financial fraud, there should be court cases about this.

    But I really don't like the attacks on Lauren, based just on some faggot's blog. Call me a white knight or whatever, tell me "she'll never sleep with you brah" - as if the people attacking her are not just bitter that they will never sleep with her.

    Ultimately, we have the things we know for certain, and other things that are just rumors. A tree is known by its fruits. Lauren has produced two excellent and important documentaries, she did valuable journalism even back when she was employed by the kikes at Rebel Media.
    Attacking her based on a blogpost by fucking Milo that's quite literally about gay intrigue is disgraceful.
    And even if some, or even all, allegations were true , her worth must still be judged along with all of her positive contributions weighted against that.

    In one of the twitter threads someone also mentioned a gangbang video of Brittany Pettibone that noone has (as if it wouldn't spread like fire on /pol/ if someone had it) but everybody started basically posting what a fucking whore she is and how they always knew.
    I have no words how retarded this is. And I'm not talking about the leftist infiltrators who are certainly among the people eagerly agreeing with any rumor, the more disgusting the better.

    I couldn’t care less about the two faggots

    But Lauren did and that is the problem.

    Supposedly, she kept paying them because Borderless wasn’t finished yet, and she was completely reliant upon them for it to get done.

    I remember them dragging their feet on Farmlands, too. Specifically when Generation Identity did an action on the French border, Southern was there with Brittany Pettibone talking about it. At one point she looked off camera and said, “Caolan is here too, though I’m not sure why.” since he was supposed to be getting Farmlands done, since it was already overdue.

    http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/215898693/#q215908805

    • Replies: @Spisarevski
    Weeks before Milo's post (which I actually haven't read yet) I thought to myself "where is Borderless, it was supposed to be released at least a few days before the EU election, the faggot operator probably didn't do his job".

    In the end they released it too late for it to have an impact on the election, which was the original stated goal. And yes, I remember the delay with Farmlands too.

    Well, she is a woman, and having a mulatto boyfriend in the past does point to her being genuinely lacking in prejudice and being tolerant of people she should be wary of.

    Hell, I'm a man who never lacked testosterone and even I was kind of a liberal until my early twenties (isn't Lauren like 22?), wisdom comes with age.
    Anyway being another victim of a couple of faggot scammers is not something I would hold against her.
  7. This is a hilarious story.

    Milo is an unreliable narrator to say the least.

  8. @Mitleser

    I couldn’t care less about the two faggots
     
    But Lauren did and that is the problem.

    Supposedly, she kept paying them because Borderless wasn't finished yet, and she was completely reliant upon them for it to get done.

    I remember them dragging their feet on Farmlands, too. Specifically when Generation Identity did an action on the French border, Southern was there with Brittany Pettibone talking about it. At one point she looked off camera and said, "Caolan is here too, though I'm not sure why." since he was supposed to be getting Farmlands done, since it was already overdue.
     
    http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/215898693/#q215908805

    Weeks before Milo’s post (which I actually haven’t read yet) I thought to myself “where is Borderless, it was supposed to be released at least a few days before the EU election, the faggot operator probably didn’t do his job”.

    In the end they released it too late for it to have an impact on the election, which was the original stated goal. And yes, I remember the delay with Farmlands too.

    Well, she is a woman, and having a mulatto boyfriend in the past does point to her being genuinely lacking in prejudice and being tolerant of people she should be wary of.

    Hell, I’m a man who never lacked testosterone and even I was kind of a liberal until my early twenties (isn’t Lauren like 22?), wisdom comes with age.
    Anyway being another victim of a couple of faggot scammers is not something I would hold against her.

    • Replies: @Anonymoose
    Did you read that part about Caolan's boyfriend being a former transgender who now identifies as male. Also [email protected] that pic of those two sipping champagne together. Awww how cute!!!!
  9. Perhaps a good time to remind people that those who associate with low quality people are usually low quality themselves.

  10. @Spisarevski
    Weeks before Milo's post (which I actually haven't read yet) I thought to myself "where is Borderless, it was supposed to be released at least a few days before the EU election, the faggot operator probably didn't do his job".

    In the end they released it too late for it to have an impact on the election, which was the original stated goal. And yes, I remember the delay with Farmlands too.

    Well, she is a woman, and having a mulatto boyfriend in the past does point to her being genuinely lacking in prejudice and being tolerant of people she should be wary of.

    Hell, I'm a man who never lacked testosterone and even I was kind of a liberal until my early twenties (isn't Lauren like 22?), wisdom comes with age.
    Anyway being another victim of a couple of faggot scammers is not something I would hold against her.

    Did you read that part about Caolan’s boyfriend being a former transgender who now identifies as male. Also [email protected] that pic of those two sipping champagne together. Awww how cute!!!!

    • Replies: @Mitleser
    His "boyfriend" without make-up.

    https://twitter.com/RoloLeBrun/status/1137367118385688579
    , @Alfa158
    I’m confused, in that photo which one is Robertson and which one is George?
    On second thought, never mind, it doesn’t matter to anyone including themselves. It’s all just protoplasm.
  11. I remember people shitting on Roosh for warning “tradthots” are not trad. What a suprise. Such “tradthots” are no different to the shameles, licentious sluts one can find at the nightclub.

    • Replies: @Rosie

    I remember people shitting on Roosh for warning “tradthots” are not trad. What a suprise. Such “tradthots” are no different to the shameles, licentious sluts one can find at the nightclub.
     
    Roosh can go straight to hell.

    A movement composed entirely of men hax literally no chance whatsoever of ever influencing the mainstream. Roosh doesn't care about that. He's not white and has no reason to care about that.
  12. @WHAT
    Not so long ago people in these circles were very paranoid about sophisticated fed impostors and infiltrators.
    Turns out the rot inside was infinitely more basic bitch, sort of like with Heimbach, lol.

    ….. and Richard Spencer’s marriage problems.
    ….. and Eli Moseley lying about being in the military.
    ….. and leading their supporters into Unite the Right.
    ….. and throwing the Roman salute just when they were gathered to take the alt-right to the next level.
    …. and having anything to do with Chris Cantwell.
    …. and Andrew Anglin crowing about having friends inside Cloudflare.

    The list really does go on.

    • Replies: @Rosie

    The list really does go on.
     
    Indeed.
  13. This thread should come with rainbow decorations.

  14. If your thinking of starting a far-right, nationalist based organization don’t allow it to be led or hijacked by aspiring cock sucking whore journalists or by a duo of mentally ill drama queen pederasts and trannies. And there’s no shortage of such trash in the Alt-lite like Gavin Mcinnes, an embarrassing 48 nearing 50 year old manchild with a family whose whole career revolves around spreading his ass crack live on camera and flashing his cock.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    As Mr. Karlin once referred to WN “leaders” - “only the best people.”
    , @Craig Nelsen

    such trash in the Alt-lite like Gavin Mcinnes,
     
    Gavin accomplishes more in a typical weekend than you have in your entire sorry life. He's put himself on the line publicly over and over, taking the position that was right even if it wasn't popular, while you don't even have the balls to post under your real name. So go fuck yourself, troll.
  15. How did those gay scam artists get hold Robinson’s wife’s credit card? Did they steal it or did they take advantage of a lapse in the online account database security?

  16. @Anatoly Karlin
    I think I rather expressly reserved judgment about Lauren, only pointing out that these are allegations about her. (That's one of the central claims here, after all).

    But certainly there are some people obsessed with the WQ.

    https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1138123528891437056

    The eternal affluent white woman

  17. Anybody who was ever interested in these ‘e-celebs’ only has themselves to blame. The whole alt-right LARP was clearly a joke from the start.

    • Replies: @216
    Dissident politics is dominated (right, left, etc.) by socially maladjusted beta males. This status makes them vulnerable to both female guile, and the occasional alpha like R. Spencer that comes along.

    The story of the Alt-Right is one of absent adult supervision, and apparent alcoholism and sexual debauchery among many of its leaders.

    Future movements should be strictly hierarchical, but decentralized, and hostile to any contact with mainstream media.
  18. No one who is actually red-pill (a term that applies to gender realism, which is far harder to grok than race realism) was fooled by Lauren Southern and Tomi Lahren for a minute. Everyone from Roosh to Captain Capitalism called Lauren Southern out for what she was.

    The problem is that the WN wing of the ‘alt right’ is not ‘right’ at all, but is rather just a new incarnation of the paleo-left.

    More specifically, race-centric ideologies always agree with feminism on 99% of issues. They are among the biggest whiteknights around. It is no secret that WN is about 95% male, with the few women present just to bilk the needy omega males.

    • Replies: @216
    Its comparable to black lives matter.

    BLM had a lot of women/gay leaders, odd for a movement that was about defending young and straight black men. It hasn't been reported as much, but there was considerable affinity fraud, much like what has occured in the Alt-Right/Lite.

    Criticizing women is difficult in mainstream feminist society, so any Dissident that does it gets an automatic edginess. But what we need to be doing is shaming beta males from being thirsty towards any woman that seems agreeable. That carries a lot of risk, as you are attacking your own audience.
    , @Anonymous
    There are a lot of beta males who want watch videos made by attractive women. Thus, attractive women can achieve great fame even if they don't have anything original to say. That is the situation and no amount of jealous whining from Roosh is going to change it. It doesn't mean that these women are necessarily insincere. You should treat them like you'd treat a man doing the same thing. If he doesn't have anything interesting to say, don't say anything about him. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference, and the guys who are personally miffed at Lauren Southern's popularity look just as pathetic as the white knights who eagerly defend her.
  19. @Anonymoose
    Did you read that part about Caolan's boyfriend being a former transgender who now identifies as male. Also [email protected] that pic of those two sipping champagne together. Awww how cute!!!!

    His “boyfriend” without make-up.

    https://twitter.com/RoloLeBrun/status/1137367118385688579

    • LOL: Anonymoose
  20. • LOL: Tusk
  21. anon[149] • Disclaimer says:

    “If your thinking of starting a far-right, nationalist based organization don’t allow it to be led or hijacked”

    That’s a nearly impossible task between grifters, intelligence service proxies like HNH/SPLC/ADL/etc, and the government seeking to infiltrate your group. Probably the only thing that would work at this point is a partition of the United States. That option would essentially deplatform the entirety of the left, along with most of the grifters and the government, in one swoop. When the democrats retake the White House in 2020, this will be the only option remaining for the American right, and I predict that it will begin to be taken seriously at that point due to demographic changes. Even just two months ago I would have discounted that possibility; however, the willingness of Florida to rescind the First Amendment over antisemitism (even if it’s wrong) and states like Alabama, Mississippi, and Georgia to thumb their noses at the reigning orthodoxy over abortion tells me that there is a growing number of people in moderately powerful positions on the right spoiling for a fight with their racist, left-wing enemies – sick of being used by Conservatism Inc. and unwilling to be controlled by the national GOP.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Here's my idea of some good ground-rules. In your organization, people get prestige by doing these things:

    1. Writing books or articles or youtube videos which reflect a high reading level.
    2. Running for office and actually getting votes.

    The following do not give people prestige:

    1. Being featured on the mainstream media as an example of the Evil People.
    2. Leading a riot or demonstration or street fight.
    3. Making youtube videos with youtube-typical levels of vocabulary.
    4. Forming a political party which doesn't actually run in elections.
    5. Having a website with a high alexa rating.
  22. 216 says:
    @Tusk
    Anybody who was ever interested in these 'e-celebs' only has themselves to blame. The whole alt-right LARP was clearly a joke from the start.

    Dissident politics is dominated (right, left, etc.) by socially maladjusted beta males. This status makes them vulnerable to both female guile, and the occasional alpha like R. Spencer that comes along.

    The story of the Alt-Right is one of absent adult supervision, and apparent alcoholism and sexual debauchery among many of its leaders.

    Future movements should be strictly hierarchical, but decentralized, and hostile to any contact with mainstream media.

    • Replies: @Tusk
    Spencer acted like a spook the entire time, legitimate or not, whoever fell for him should probably just give up and join the globohomo.
    , @SFG
    Hierarchical but decentralized? How would that even work? Communists had the cell technique where the cells didn't know about each other, but they had an outside controller in the form of the Soviet Union.
  23. 216 says:
    @Thomm
    No one who is actually red-pill (a term that applies to gender realism, which is far harder to grok than race realism) was fooled by Lauren Southern and Tomi Lahren for a minute. Everyone from Roosh to Captain Capitalism called Lauren Southern out for what she was.

    The problem is that the WN wing of the 'alt right' is not 'right' at all, but is rather just a new incarnation of the paleo-left.

    More specifically, race-centric ideologies always agree with feminism on 99% of issues. They are among the biggest whiteknights around. It is no secret that WN is about 95% male, with the few women present just to bilk the needy omega males.

    Its comparable to black lives matter.

    BLM had a lot of women/gay leaders, odd for a movement that was about defending young and straight black men. It hasn’t been reported as much, but there was considerable affinity fraud, much like what has occured in the Alt-Right/Lite.

    Criticizing women is difficult in mainstream feminist society, so any Dissident that does it gets an automatic edginess. But what we need to be doing is shaming beta males from being thirsty towards any woman that seems agreeable. That carries a lot of risk, as you are attacking your own audience.

  24. @216
    Dissident politics is dominated (right, left, etc.) by socially maladjusted beta males. This status makes them vulnerable to both female guile, and the occasional alpha like R. Spencer that comes along.

    The story of the Alt-Right is one of absent adult supervision, and apparent alcoholism and sexual debauchery among many of its leaders.

    Future movements should be strictly hierarchical, but decentralized, and hostile to any contact with mainstream media.

    Spencer acted like a spook the entire time, legitimate or not, whoever fell for him should probably just give up and join the globohomo.

  25. @Anonymoose
    If your thinking of starting a far-right, nationalist based organization don't allow it to be led or hijacked by aspiring cock sucking whore journalists or by a duo of mentally ill drama queen pederasts and trannies. And there's no shortage of such trash in the Alt-lite like Gavin Mcinnes, an embarrassing 48 nearing 50 year old manchild with a family whose whole career revolves around spreading his ass crack live on camera and flashing his cock.

    As Mr. Karlin once referred to WN “leaders” – “only the best people.”

  26. anonymous[113] • Disclaimer says:

    typical alt-right gathering

    As Mr. Karlin said many times, right and alt-right have, to put it mildly, human capital problem.

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/the-rights-human-capital-problem/

    https://sceptremag.com/2017/11/22/eastern-europe-and-the-swine-right/

    Movement of low IQ morons, lunatics, psychos and grifters will not move forward without some high IQ, well educated, well adjusted and sane people.
    But why should these people join alt-right?

    Until alt-right HBDIQ movement finds some way to recruit actual high IQ, genetically superior people, it is doomed.

    • Replies: @DreadIlk
    You think establishment has smart people? People in general are low IQ compared to the tasks that need to be done. The blow ups that have been happening in alt right are not even that big. What at most 5% of total audience. It is still a problem that needs to be addressed but this is how you eliminate grifters like this with time and due diligence.

    This is why Milo is burning them with napalm and everyone associated with them.
    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Agreed. It's high IQ, successful people like me that should be playing key roles in the movement. However, they keep proving to be a bunch of jackasses so I'm not about to throw away my career and income to support it.

    I remember before UTR in Charlottesville, I still believed the AR had a chance. So I was thinking that I would be prepared to make major lifestyle changes in the future to support the movement. Obviously this has now totally evaporated.
  27. Hail says: • Website

    Caolan Robertson was one of those people, like Trump, who maxed out their the Charisma stats, enabling him to hold people in his thrall well past the moment when all warning lights should have been flashing red.

    Well stated.

    And, to use a three-letter expression popularized by one of the figures mentioned there:

    Sad!

  28. @Anonymoose
    If your thinking of starting a far-right, nationalist based organization don't allow it to be led or hijacked by aspiring cock sucking whore journalists or by a duo of mentally ill drama queen pederasts and trannies. And there's no shortage of such trash in the Alt-lite like Gavin Mcinnes, an embarrassing 48 nearing 50 year old manchild with a family whose whole career revolves around spreading his ass crack live on camera and flashing his cock.

    such trash in the Alt-lite like Gavin Mcinnes,

    Gavin accomplishes more in a typical weekend than you have in your entire sorry life. He’s put himself on the line publicly over and over, taking the position that was right even if it wasn’t popular, while you don’t even have the balls to post under your real name. So go fuck yourself, troll.

    • LOL: WHAT
    • Replies: @WHAT
    And all that with a dildo up his ass!
  29. @Craig Nelsen

    such trash in the Alt-lite like Gavin Mcinnes,
     
    Gavin accomplishes more in a typical weekend than you have in your entire sorry life. He's put himself on the line publicly over and over, taking the position that was right even if it wasn't popular, while you don't even have the balls to post under your real name. So go fuck yourself, troll.

    And all that with a dildo up his ass!

    • LOL: Denis
  30. By the way, opinions on 21 Convention basically imploding with the ousting of Rollo Tomassi? Are they going after bobs and vagene redpill next? Should all of us order a set of TRM for posterity, while Bezos still carries it?

    • Replies: @SFG
    Already did. ;)
  31. Milo the degenerate narcissist with a negro dong up his bung is whining about other narcissistic homo degenerates given to lies and lavish lifestyles?

    Homos are naturally vain and precious. That’s why they are favored by the globalist uber-rich.

    • Replies: @gate666
    remember homophobia is usually associated with low iq.
  32. Also reminder that Tommy Robinson has a thing for trannies

    The British “far right” is way too gay and way too Zionist. Tommy Robinson may be the most useless of all. His idea of British nationalism is a rainbow unicorn utopia that celebrates every form of sexual degeneracy.

    Maybe the problem is that Britain is just terminally gay.

  33. JL says:

    Can someone please explain to the uninitiated, what is “a former transgender woman who now identifies as male”? It sounds like a triple negative. Is this a man who had surgical procedures to turn himself into a woman and then had more surgical procedures to turn himself (or herself, at this point?) back into a man? Just the general gist will do, no details are either necessary, nor desired.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    Lol - story is about 2 gay men and 1 woman. The photo on the top is just confusing you.

    This "transgender" man - I guess just a gay man, who wanted to be a woman, but now is a man again.

    Story is about two gay men who are friends with the woman in the middle, who makes documentary films for the far right, according to Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Southern

    She has hundreds of thousands of followers on Twitter (because she is blonde?) and the gays are living parasitically on her income.

    https://i.imgur.com/8h296Gp.jpg

    His Twitter:
    twitter.com/georgellewelyn

    Her Twitter:
    twitter.com/lauren_southern

    The two gays sound somewhat clever in their tactics, but not their strategy - if they are living from the income of internet celebrities, instead of richer celebrities.

  34. anon[866] • Disclaimer says:

    The article heavily implies that Lauren Southern is an opportunistic grifter who may have turned rat for the radical left; the author is careful to establish means, motive, opportunity, poor character judgement, and a pattern of behavior on her part. Means: social media. Opportunity: conservative media connections. Motive: financial; Milo states that the cancellation of her Patreon left her financially devastated and this HnH group mentioned in the story reportedly offered to fix the gay duo’s reputation in exchange for cooperation, so it’s a short leap to think that she may also have been offered a similar deal in a secret meeting she reportedly had with them. History: she reportedly delighted in destroying her competition (Milo himself as some have speculated) and reveled in the misdeeds of her partners, which she supposedly knew about. Poor character (establishes the possibility of Southern betraying her “principles”): Milo repeats claims by her former friends and colleagues that she must have known what was going on + her history of sleeping around with numerous men for self-advancement while hypocritically promoting a traditional lifestyle.

    Personally, I think Lauren Southern was offered some kind of incentive to become a conservative mole/gatekeeper to restore her image/finances so she could move onto other things. The idea may have been to have her make propaganda undermining conservative viewpoints while pretending to be on their side. A series of documentaries would be the easiest way to do this. Tellingly, she secretly met with HnH (SPLC equivalent) and was apparently on a first name basis with her “caseworker” in this organization. Damaging leaks concerning Tommy Robinson were made public at around that time along with video manipulation of this man on the part of Southern’s crew to make him look bad.

    In fact, if you think about it, her recent behavior makes a lot of sense in the context of her flipping. I noticed a few months ago that she released a YouTube video announcing she was taking a break from activism (promoting conservative views) in order to focus more on documentaries; this struck me as very odd and the possibility of her retiring or flipping came to mind. And her latest documentary follows a rather bizarre speech she gave in the EU Parliament sympathizing with an African migrant; she even humanized him by relating his name. One of the gay duo wrote her speech, I believe. She then uploaded a video with the provocative title “changing my mind on immigration” concerning this speech; once again I found this suspicious. Her documentary concerning mass migration was later released, and some fans noticed it was sympathetic to immigrants while making no effort to interview Europeans negatively impacted by the African invasion. Tellingly, someone involved with HnH reportedly flew to Italy to meet with some of those involved with the production during filming.*

    The most damning piece of evidence for me is the fact that she publicly announced a few days before this story broke that she was retiring from public life. Who retires at that age after just releasing a documentary she spent months working on and defending post-release in the media? No, it’s clear to me Southern knew she was about to be exposed. I’ve also heard nothing of her preparing a rebuttal. And her gay duo reportedly shopped a “how I was radicalized by the right” come to Jesus opportunity for outlets in the United States just prior to publication. Well, that is before Milo got wind of it and reported them to Homeland Security for violating their Visas and lying about it, ensuring they’ll never be permitted entry into the country again. Savage. Revenge is a gay b*tch.

    *According to Southern, YouTube reportedly took down her documentary almost immediately after it was uploaded. Strangely, she then reuploaded a copy on her own rather than YouTube simply restoring the original themselves after an appeal. That doesn’t make any sense. If YouTube took down the documentary, then how was she able to reupload an identical copy just afterwards? I think she faked this incident to 1) garner publicity for the film, which would fit her profile 2) make the poison pill of a sympathetic invasion documentary go down her viewer’s gullible throats a little easier by making it look as if her supposedly controversial right-wing documentary was being censored by the radical left.

  35. @216
    Dissident politics is dominated (right, left, etc.) by socially maladjusted beta males. This status makes them vulnerable to both female guile, and the occasional alpha like R. Spencer that comes along.

    The story of the Alt-Right is one of absent adult supervision, and apparent alcoholism and sexual debauchery among many of its leaders.

    Future movements should be strictly hierarchical, but decentralized, and hostile to any contact with mainstream media.

    Hierarchical but decentralized? How would that even work? Communists had the cell technique where the cells didn’t know about each other, but they had an outside controller in the form of the Soviet Union.

    • Replies: @iffen
    You would have to have a self-perpetuating "central committee" and hope that they stayed righteous. You absolutely could not have mobocracy.
    , @216
    A decentralized movement of local chapters, organized informally; possibly under the aegis of older established "fraternal organizations" that are top-heavy in age bracket.

    Groups would be focused on politics as a secondary concern to lifestyle matters, to encourage normal people to join and find prospects for cadre development. Also of interest would be to draw in Gen X men that never affiliated with formal organizations, to eliminate the current problem of inexperienced Millennials/Zeds that lack guidance.

    The "national organization" would be little more than a press office, and charter authors. A rotating ceremonial leadership on a state-by-state basis. My idea is to discourage people from expensive public activities, and push them in the direction of mundane local politics as a long-term strategy for growth.

    I would suggest Steve Bannon as the ceremonial leader, on background; the problem is that his main agenda is Zionism. I'm not sure of any other figures of national stature, Tucker Carlson???
  36. @Anon
    Milo the degenerate narcissist with a negro dong up his bung is whining about other narcissistic homo degenerates given to lies and lavish lifestyles?

    Homos are naturally vain and precious. That's why they are favored by the globalist uber-rich.

    remember homophobia is usually associated with low iq.

    • Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    Clearly, then, there is merit in the expression, "Too smart for one's own good."
    , @BengaliCanadianDude
    Proof? How big is the correlation? How big is the sample size? Population? How big is the difference?

    I'll wait
  37. @WHAT
    By the way, opinions on 21 Convention basically imploding with the ousting of Rollo Tomassi? Are they going after bobs and vagene redpill next? Should all of us order a set of TRM for posterity, while Bezos still carries it?

    Already did. 😉

    • Replies: @WHAT
    Same, actually. ^_^
  38. Funnily enough, it is Zionist-chan Laura Loomer who comes off looking the least bad of the lot:

    Hey, she was the one who knew when someone was trying to rip her off. HBD in action!

  39. anon[866] • Disclaimer says:

    “Hierarchical but decentralized? How would that even work? Communists had the cell technique…”

    Unz recently published an article that mentioned an American conservative who tried and failed to replicate this cell technique. Tellingly, this strategy didn’t work for American communists either. Very likely, this was due to the already established presence of powerful, well-connected institutions in the United States (plus relative prosperity discouraging the population), capable of opposing such groups. This kind of strategy in the modern world is doomed to failure for the same reasons. If you want to undermine the system, undermine trust in the institutions while giving people a realistic, achievable and diametrically opposite goal with a plan of action in mind.

    • Replies: @iffen
    while giving people a realistic, achievable and diametrically opposite goal with a plan of action in mind.

    MIA
    , @Hail

    Unz recently published an article that mentioned an American conservative who tried and failed to replicate this cell technique
     
    I think anon[866] refers here to American Pravda: Secrets of Military Intelligence (published June 10, 2019).

    Relevant excerpt:

    By 1958 [Revilo P.] Oliver had established himself as one of National Review‘s leading contributors, and he was contacted by a wealthy Massachusetts businessman named Robert Welch, who had been an early investor in the magazine but was greatly disappointed by its political ineffectiveness, and the two men corresponded and gradually became quite friendly. Welch said he was concerned that the publication focused largely on frivolity and pseudo-literary endeavors, while it increasingly minimized or ignored the conspiratorial role of the Jewish aliens who had gained such a degree of control over the country. The two men eventually met, and according to Oliver seemed to be entirely in agreement about America’s plight, which they discussed in complete candor.

    Late that same year, Welch described his plans for regaining control of the country by the creation of a semi-secret national organization of patriotic individuals, primarily drawn from the upper middle classes and prosperous businessman, which eventually became known as the John Birch Society. With its structure and strategy inspired by the Communist Party, it was to be tightly organized into individual local cells, whose members would then establish a network of front organizations for particular political projects, all seemingly unconnected but actually under their dominant influence. Secret directives would be passed along to each local chapter by the word of mouth via coordinators dispatched from Welch’s central headquarters, a system also modeled after the strict hierarchical discipline of Communist movements.

    Welch privately unveiled his proposal to a small group of prospective co-founders, all of whom with the exception of Oliver were wealthy businessmen. He candidly admitted his own atheism and explained that Christianity would have no role in the project, which cost him a couple of potential supporters; but about a dozen committed themselves, notably including Fred Koch, founding father of Koch Industries. Minimal emphasis was to be placed upon Jewish matters, partly to avoid drawing media fire and partly in hopes that a growing schism between Zionist and non-Zionist Jews might weaken their powerful adversary, or if the former gained the upper hand, perhaps help ensure the removal of all Jews to the Middle East.

    As the project moved forward, a monthly magazine called American Opinion was launched and Oliver took responsibility for a large portion of each issue. Given his academic and political prominence, he also became one of the leading speakers for the organization in public venues and also an influential visitor to many of its local chapters.

    Although Oliver remained a top figure in the organization until 1966, in later years he concluded that Welch’s serious mistakes had doomed the project to failure within just a couple of years after its establishment. Very early on, a Jewish journalist had obtained a copy of some of Welch’s secret, controversial writings and their public disclosure had panicked one of the most prominent Birch leaders, soon producing a major media scandal. Welch repeatedly vacillated between defending and denying his secret manuscript, forcing his associates to take contradictory positions, and making the entire leadership seem both dishonest and ridiculous, a pattern that was to be repeated in future years.
     
  40. @Anatoly Karlin
    I think I rather expressly reserved judgment about Lauren, only pointing out that these are allegations about her. (That's one of the central claims here, after all).

    But certainly there are some people obsessed with the WQ.

    https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1138123528891437056

    On what grounds does Roosh claim that Southern’s misconduct (if there is any) rules out the idea of women leading anything? Men disgrace the movement all the time for various reasons. There are too few women in the movement to draw any such conclusion.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  41. @Anonymoose
    I remember people shitting on Roosh for warning "tradthots" are not trad. What a suprise. Such "tradthots" are no different to the shameles, licentious sluts one can find at the nightclub.

    I remember people shitting on Roosh for warning “tradthots” are not trad. What a suprise. Such “tradthots” are no different to the shameles, licentious sluts one can find at the nightclub.

    Roosh can go straight to hell.

    A movement composed entirely of men hax literally no chance whatsoever of ever influencing the mainstream. Roosh doesn’t care about that. He’s not white and has no reason to care about that.

    • Replies: @JAmes Forrestal

    I remember people shitting on Roosh for warning “tradthots” are not trad. What a suprise. Such “tradthots” are no different to the shameles, licentious sluts one can find at the nightclub.

    Roosh can go straight to hell.
     
    Rosie believes that all TRUE conservatives simply MUST oppose 'slut-shaming'."

    lol
    , @216
    White is not equal to Nordic. It is roughly equal to "Indo European" or "Aryan". His ancestry is Persian and Armenian, also known as "Caucasian".

    Terminology is important. If you mean Nordic, specify it.
  42. @Cagey Beast
    ..... and Richard Spencer's marriage problems.
    ..... and Eli Moseley lying about being in the military.
    ..... and leading their supporters into Unite the Right.
    ..... and throwing the Roman salute just when they were gathered to take the alt-right to the next level.
    .... and having anything to do with Chris Cantwell.
    .... and Andrew Anglin crowing about having friends inside Cloudflare.

    The list really does go on.

    The list really does go on.

    Indeed.

  43. Who are they and why are you interested in them? Are they connected or relatives to any important/rich or powerful people that would be interesting to research?

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    What I got now as return on scraping of Lauren Southern social media.

    Her family is working class people - it does not look like she has interesting connections or relevance to important people.

    Main part of her family is in Canada, and another part is in America (in Texas). There are some South American (brown skin people) which are part of her family, and some branch of her family in America looked like "Evangelicals"

    So, nothing interesting

  44. @Anatoly Karlin
    I think I rather expressly reserved judgment about Lauren, only pointing out that these are allegations about her. (That's one of the central claims here, after all).

    But certainly there are some people obsessed with the WQ.

    https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1138123528891437056

    That Twitter is Roosh – the same scamming brown immigrant to America we talked about here:
    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/based-putler/#comment-3244420

    After I watched the Ukrainian talkshow video of him on YouTube – YouTube started putting his videos on my recommended videos for about a week. I didn’t want to clear cookies, but after a few days YouTube stops recommending them to me.

    The issue here is instead solving his real life problem (washing regularly, having a hair cut, etc), he spams YouTube with videos of his face, which YouTube then promotes to people who do not want to watch him.

    It’s predictable his emotions on Twitter will feel angry that this woman is having sex with men, just as a symptom that women do not want to have sex with him except when he pays for prostitutes in Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Toronto Russian

    After I watched the Ukrainian talkshow video of him on YouTube – YouTube started putting his videos on my recommended videos for about a week.
     
    Some second-hand embarrassment, that video. The TV show of course intended to mock him and they can use camera tricks to make people look ridiculous, but no one forced him to come to the studio with that disheveled hair.

    I think Roosh also wrote that Beauty is Objective and only skinny supermodels were ever considered attractive. Quite ignorant for a self-styled advocate of traditional Western culture, should have visited fewer bars and more museums.

    https://sr.gallerix.ru/_UNK/1265835004/1949469308.jpg

    https://sr.gallerix.ru/_EX/2037947957/460598754.jpg
  45. • Replies: @Swarthy Greek
    The no thot or homo rule applies for all revolutionary groups. The bolsheviks had no women involved in the central comittee and serious party organization, preferring instead strong macho men like Stalin and Dzherzhinsky, whereas the Socialist Revolutionaries let emotional women (ie: Fanny Kaplan) run the party aground/s
  46. It’s predictable his emotions will feel angry that that woman has sex with men, just as a symptom that women do not want to have sex with him except when he pays for prostitutes in Ukraine.

    We need a movement for White people. All this other bullshit is just a divisive distraction. There is in fact no natural affinity between pro-White politics and the degenerate manosphere.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    Do you ever shut up?
    , @iffen
    We need a movement for White people.

    You've got several, Rosie. Your problem is that they are not (and will not be) going anywhere.

  47. @Rosie

    It’s predictable his emotions will feel angry that that woman has sex with men, just as a symptom that women do not want to have sex with him except when he pays for prostitutes in Ukraine.
     
    We need a movement for White people. All this other bullshit is just a divisive distraction. There is in fact no natural affinity between pro-White politics and the degenerate manosphere.

    Do you ever shut up?

    • Replies: @Rosie

    Do you ever shut up?
     
    What can I say? All this stupidity keeps me busy.
  48. @Kent Nationalist
    Do you ever shut up?

    Do you ever shut up?

    What can I say? All this stupidity keeps me busy.

  49. @JL
    Can someone please explain to the uninitiated, what is "a former transgender woman who now identifies as male"? It sounds like a triple negative. Is this a man who had surgical procedures to turn himself into a woman and then had more surgical procedures to turn himself (or herself, at this point?) back into a man? Just the general gist will do, no details are either necessary, nor desired.

    Lol – story is about 2 gay men and 1 woman. The photo on the top is just confusing you.

    This “transgender” man – I guess just a gay man, who wanted to be a woman, but now is a man again.

    Story is about two gay men who are friends with the woman in the middle, who makes documentary films for the far right, according to Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Southern

    She has hundreds of thousands of followers on Twitter (because she is blonde?) and the gays are living parasitically on her income.

    His Twitter:
    twitter.com/georgellewelyn

    Her Twitter:
    twitter.com/lauren_southern

    The two gays sound somewhat clever in their tactics, but not their strategy – if they are living from the income of internet celebrities, instead of richer celebrities.

  50. @SFG
    Hierarchical but decentralized? How would that even work? Communists had the cell technique where the cells didn't know about each other, but they had an outside controller in the form of the Soviet Union.

    You would have to have a self-perpetuating “central committee” and hope that they stayed righteous. You absolutely could not have mobocracy.

  51. @anon
    "Hierarchical but decentralized? How would that even work? Communists had the cell technique..."

    Unz recently published an article that mentioned an American conservative who tried and failed to replicate this cell technique. Tellingly, this strategy didn't work for American communists either. Very likely, this was due to the already established presence of powerful, well-connected institutions in the United States (plus relative prosperity discouraging the population), capable of opposing such groups. This kind of strategy in the modern world is doomed to failure for the same reasons. If you want to undermine the system, undermine trust in the institutions while giving people a realistic, achievable and diametrically opposite goal with a plan of action in mind.

    while giving people a realistic, achievable and diametrically opposite goal with a plan of action in mind.

    MIA

  52. @SFG
    Already did. ;)

    Same, actually. ^_^

  53. @Anatoly Karlin
    I think I rather expressly reserved judgment about Lauren, only pointing out that these are allegations about her. (That's one of the central claims here, after all).

    But certainly there are some people obsessed with the WQ.

    https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1138123528891437056

    Roosh is a middle easterner, Louren Southern is an Aryan. Call it “white knighting”, or whatever new terminology is used these days, but I would never pick a non white male over a white female as a leader.

    • Replies: @Thomm

    but I would never pick a non white male over a white female as a leader.
     
    You are also among those who openly said that you would rather have sex with a white man than a black woman, since race trumps sexual orientation, and producing no baby is better than producing a mulatto baby.

    Hey, that is completely consistent with the pattern in your quote above.

    Thanks for reminding everyone how much homosexuality is inherent to modern White Trashionalism.
  54. @Rosie

    It’s predictable his emotions will feel angry that that woman has sex with men, just as a symptom that women do not want to have sex with him except when he pays for prostitutes in Ukraine.
     
    We need a movement for White people. All this other bullshit is just a divisive distraction. There is in fact no natural affinity between pro-White politics and the degenerate manosphere.

    We need a movement for White people.

    You’ve got several, Rosie. Your problem is that they are not (and will not be) going anywhere.

  55. @gate666
    remember homophobia is usually associated with low iq.

    Clearly, then, there is merit in the expression, “Too smart for one’s own good.”

  56. @Thorfinnsson
    https://twitter.com/ChrisNahr/status/1138135692285026307

    The no thot or homo rule applies for all revolutionary groups. The bolsheviks had no women involved in the central comittee and serious party organization, preferring instead strong macho men like Stalin and Dzherzhinsky, whereas the Socialist Revolutionaries let emotional women (ie: Fanny Kaplan) run the party aground/s

    • Replies: @Anonymoose
    There was also another heavily emotional narodnik female named Maria Spirodinova who was part of the Socialist Revolutionaries. The only prominent female member of the Sovnarkom was Alexandra Kollontai. Even she became obscure and irrelevant after the revolution because she had a crazy and degenerate ideology towards sex and love.
    , @Anatoly Karlin
    Dzerzhinsky was a beta loser who got beaten up by Polish workers while trying to agitate against the Tsar.

    There must be some kind of achievement trophy for that...
  57. Anon[367] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Jews made homos holy, and so, even the Right thinks it’s cool to have homos on their side. Indeed, this is why Milo was welcomed by cons. He was homo… and also Jewish.

    Jews made themselves, homos, and blacks holy. So, even though those groups are most anti-white-right, many white rightists are desperate to have those holies on their side.

    So, American Conservatives allow themselves to be fleeced by Jews on a mega-scale. Candace Owens became an overnight star because of her blackness. And a ‘conservative’ homo will get the red carpet treatment in the GOP.

    Anyway, the homos who defrauded Southern are small potatoes compared to Jewish ‘conservatives’ who robbed American Conservatism blind.

  58. ‘Klepto-Queens’ is good. Milo ought to be an expert in that field.

    ‘Klepto-Semite’ also works. Crypto-Semites and Klepto-Semites.

  59. @Mitleser

    Mark [Collett] was in the BNP for its formative years in the early 2000s and he talks about an almost identical incident where an infiltrator ended up getting people imprisoned and they were only able to do it because a more respected member vouched for them. That's exactly what Lauren did for the two sodomites. I think the Canadian right is just fucked and filled with charlatans trying to bank on American conservatives
     
    http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/215898693/#q215901673
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXj7IS2s59Y

    Dat /pol/ thread. I haven’t been over there in some time.

    http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/215898693/#q215908306

    >>215907605
    It’s not a coincidence those two [Brittany Pettibone and Martin Sellner] have essentially cut her [Lauren] off not been seen together for almost 12 months.

    Lauren appears and this happens to Martin and Brittany:

    >Rapidly growing organisation
    >She gets full access to the inner workings of the organisation
    >Meets and secretly records ALL leaders and branch leaders across Europe via Caolan.
    >Martin and Britt get arrested,detained in a migrant centre and banned from the UK for “extremist views”(apparently pro ethnic European is extreme) while trying to attend the opening of GI England
    >GI Austria gets raided by authorities for “criminial activities” after evidence from a “tip off”
    >Major trial to prove or disprove GI are a criminal group(Later found not guilty but new seperate individual trials are ongoing)
    >GI leaders being firebombed by antifa on a regular basis in Germany,Austria and France.
    >Getting shut down by every major company. For example Martin has had 15 banks shut their accounts with him.

    Something something Julia got Winston first.

  60. Rachel Haywire is another homo fraud.

  61. @anonymous
    https://0.api.artsmia.org/800/126882.jpg
    typical alt-right gathering

    As Mr. Karlin said many times, right and alt-right have, to put it mildly, human capital problem.

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/the-rights-human-capital-problem/

    https://sceptremag.com/2017/11/22/eastern-europe-and-the-swine-right/

    Movement of low IQ morons, lunatics, psychos and grifters will not move forward without some high IQ, well educated, well adjusted and sane people.
    But why should these people join alt-right?

    Until alt-right HBDIQ movement finds some way to recruit actual high IQ, genetically superior people, it is doomed.

    You think establishment has smart people? People in general are low IQ compared to the tasks that need to be done. The blow ups that have been happening in alt right are not even that big. What at most 5% of total audience. It is still a problem that needs to be addressed but this is how you eliminate grifters like this with time and due diligence.

    This is why Milo is burning them with napalm and everyone associated with them.

  62. @neutral
    Roosh is a middle easterner, Louren Southern is an Aryan. Call it "white knighting", or whatever new terminology is used these days, but I would never pick a non white male over a white female as a leader.

    but I would never pick a non white male over a white female as a leader.

    You are also among those who openly said that you would rather have sex with a white man than a black woman, since race trumps sexual orientation, and producing no baby is better than producing a mulatto baby.

    Hey, that is completely consistent with the pattern in your quote above.

    Thanks for reminding everyone how much homosexuality is inherent to modern White Trashionalism.

    • Replies: @neutral

    and producing no baby is better than producing a mulatto baby
     
    Er yes, is this supposed to be some kind of gotcha? Brown third worlders like you are nett negative, worse than nothing.
  63. @Swarthy Greek
    The no thot or homo rule applies for all revolutionary groups. The bolsheviks had no women involved in the central comittee and serious party organization, preferring instead strong macho men like Stalin and Dzherzhinsky, whereas the Socialist Revolutionaries let emotional women (ie: Fanny Kaplan) run the party aground/s

    There was also another heavily emotional narodnik female named Maria Spirodinova who was part of the Socialist Revolutionaries. The only prominent female member of the Sovnarkom was Alexandra Kollontai. Even she became obscure and irrelevant after the revolution because she had a crazy and degenerate ideology towards sex and love.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Lets dredge something up from Wikipedia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_Kollontai#Contributions_to_Marxist_feminism

    Kollontai's views on the role of marriage and the family under Communism were arguably more influential on today's society than her advocacy of "free love." Kollontai believed that, like the state, the family unit would wither away once the second stage of communism became a reality. She viewed marriage and traditional families as legacies of the oppressive, property-rights-based, egoist past. Under Communism, both men and women would work for, and be supported by, society, not their families. Similarly, their children would be wards of, and reared basically by society.
     
    Yeah, that's going to work. Like getting into a retirement home when kid.
    , @JAmes Forrestal

    The only prominent female member of the Sovnarkom was Alexandra Kollontai. Even she became obscure and irrelevant after the revolution because she had a crazy and degenerate ideology towards sex and love.
     
    That crazy and degenerate ideology -- which @El Dato expands upon below -- wasn't that far off from mainstream Communist ideology in the early years after the Bolshevik coup. It wasn't until Stalin came to power that it was fully reversed. Trotsky was pretty bent out of shape about it -- and a few other things, of course. Straight from the horse's mouth:

    Lenin’s Bolshevik Party, which in October 1917 led the only successful proletarian revolution in history, understood that Soviet women would never achieve political and social equality unless they were allowed out of the stultifying isolation of the home and into the workplace. Even in the midst of a civil war and foreign invasion, the early Soviet government did what it could to socialize ‘‘women’s work’’ while instituting, for the first time in history, full legal and political equality for women. Free abortion was available on demand; dining halls, laundries and day-care centers were established, and the new regime sought to ensure equality of economic opportunity in the civil service, in industry, in the party and in the armed forces. In his 1936 book, The Revolution Betrayed, Leon Trotsky explained the aims of the early Soviet workers state in relation to women and the family:

    ‘‘The revolution made a heroic effort to destroy the so-called ‘family hearth’—that archaic, stuffy and stagnant institution in which the woman of the toiling classes performs galley labor from childhood to death. The place of the family as a shut-in petty enterprise was to be occupied, according to the plans, by a finished system of social care and accommodation: maternity houses, creches, kindergartens, schools, social dining rooms, social laundries, first-aid stations, hospitals, sanatoria, athletic organizations, moving-picture theaters, etc. The complete absorption of the house-keeping functions of the family by institutions of the socialist society, uniting all generations in solidarity and mutual aid, was to bring to woman, and thereby to the loving couple, a real liberation from the thousand-year-old fetters.’’

    Eventually the revolution succumbed to international isolation and the social backwardness of peasant dominated Russia; a conservative, parasitic bureaucracy, headed by Joseph Stalin, emerged and usurped the political power of the working class. Under the banner of ‘‘building socialism in one country,’’ the newly-privileged bureaucracy acted as the arbiter of a system of generalized want. Many of the gains for women established in the early years of the revolution were reversed. In 1934 homosexuality, which had been legalized after the revolution, was once again criminalized, and in 1936 legal access to abortion was restricted. In the course of the Stalinist political counterrevolution, women were once again relegated to the nuclear family and the provision of free domestic labor and child care:

    ‘‘It proved impossible to take the old family by storm—not because the will was lacking, and not because the family was so firmly rooted in men’s hearts. On the contrary, after a short period of distrust of the government and its creches, kindergartens and like institutions, the working women, and after them the more advanced peasants, appreciated the immeasurable advantages of the collective care of children as well as the socialization of the whole family economy."
     

  64. @Thomm

    but I would never pick a non white male over a white female as a leader.
     
    You are also among those who openly said that you would rather have sex with a white man than a black woman, since race trumps sexual orientation, and producing no baby is better than producing a mulatto baby.

    Hey, that is completely consistent with the pattern in your quote above.

    Thanks for reminding everyone how much homosexuality is inherent to modern White Trashionalism.

    and producing no baby is better than producing a mulatto baby

    Er yes, is this supposed to be some kind of gotcha? Brown third worlders like you are nett negative, worse than nothing.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    I am neither brown nor a third worlder. Last week, you accused me of being Jewish.

    Get a clue, you 70-IQ buttfuckaroni. You are not a functional member of the white race, but rather a wastematter receptacle therein, as has been explained to you in the past.

    At any rate, your homosexuality has been exposed (not that you were trying to hide it). You have, in fact, openly said that you would rather have sex with a white man rather than a black woman.

    No wonder normal people keep you out of respectable society.

  65. @neutral

    and producing no baby is better than producing a mulatto baby
     
    Er yes, is this supposed to be some kind of gotcha? Brown third worlders like you are nett negative, worse than nothing.

    I am neither brown nor a third worlder. Last week, you accused me of being Jewish.

    Get a clue, you 70-IQ buttfuckaroni. You are not a functional member of the white race, but rather a wastematter receptacle therein, as has been explained to you in the past.

    At any rate, your homosexuality has been exposed (not that you were trying to hide it). You have, in fact, openly said that you would rather have sex with a white man rather than a black woman.

    No wonder normal people keep you out of respectable society.

  66. First, there is a whiff of metoo I doubt anyone can steal 25K and not go to jail. This sort of accusations should be addressed to the police, or shoved up plaintiff’s ass.

    Second, I wonder if this shitshow, comprising the morons listed in this post, and those plotted in that multi-squid plot in the previous post, exist for a reasons. On one hand, their crap could be useful in pushing a handful of idiots to vote Republican. I guess any trick would do for sociopaths with a strong desire for public office. On the other, do we expect Trump or Scott Walker to notice, care, AND act? Do we expect the deplorables to be moved by those clown?

    I once watched two minutes of Lauren Southern. She was crying about that English wanker, who was jailed because he broke an ASBO. She was terrified about the violent thing that were about to happen to that guy in prison. I was terrified to share the planet with people who get their information from her. True, Romania has professional beggars at every corner, so we have resistance to whining since childhood. But AFAIK, our talented Indian minorities are already in London, New York, Toronto, so how could you not tell a panhandler when see one, albeit dyed blonde?

    • Replies: @Mitleser

    I doubt anyone can steal 25K and not go to jail
     
    Depends on connections and usefulness.
  67. @Anonymoose
    There was also another heavily emotional narodnik female named Maria Spirodinova who was part of the Socialist Revolutionaries. The only prominent female member of the Sovnarkom was Alexandra Kollontai. Even she became obscure and irrelevant after the revolution because she had a crazy and degenerate ideology towards sex and love.

    Lets dredge something up from Wikipedia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_Kollontai#Contributions_to_Marxist_feminism

    Kollontai’s views on the role of marriage and the family under Communism were arguably more influential on today’s society than her advocacy of “free love.” Kollontai believed that, like the state, the family unit would wither away once the second stage of communism became a reality. She viewed marriage and traditional families as legacies of the oppressive, property-rights-based, egoist past. Under Communism, both men and women would work for, and be supported by, society, not their families. Similarly, their children would be wards of, and reared basically by society.

    Yeah, that’s going to work. Like getting into a retirement home when kid.

  68. @Dacian Julien Soros
    First, there is a whiff of metoo I doubt anyone can steal 25K and not go to jail. This sort of accusations should be addressed to the police, or shoved up plaintiff's ass.

    Second, I wonder if this shitshow, comprising the morons listed in this post, and those plotted in that multi-squid plot in the previous post, exist for a reasons. On one hand, their crap could be useful in pushing a handful of idiots to vote Republican. I guess any trick would do for sociopaths with a strong desire for public office. On the other, do we expect Trump or Scott Walker to notice, care, AND act? Do we expect the deplorables to be moved by those clown?

    I once watched two minutes of Lauren Southern. She was crying about that English wanker, who was jailed because he broke an ASBO. She was terrified about the violent thing that were about to happen to that guy in prison. I was terrified to share the planet with people who get their information from her. True, Romania has professional beggars at every corner, so we have resistance to whining since childhood. But AFAIK, our talented Indian minorities are already in London, New York, Toronto, so how could you not tell a panhandler when see one, albeit dyed blonde?

    I doubt anyone can steal 25K and not go to jail

    Depends on connections and usefulness.

  69. Many people don’t realize how shambolic of a state contemporary WN is in. Outside of the various Internet abodes, it resides somewhere in a netherworld between degeneracy and non-existence.

    Kevin Crawford Kraft is a prominent White Trashionalist in NorCal. Yet this idiot gets arrested every few months for very negro-like crimes.

    http://mugshotssantacruz.com/search/?last_name=KRAFT&first_name=KEVIN&#prof

    The only time he has a large gap between arrests is when he is incarcerated outright, which appears to be the case at the moment. Once out, he defaults back into arrests every 30-60 days.

    If you want to put a face to what contemporary WN actually is, this is the face you should see.

  70. I first heard about this last night on Nick Fuente’s show. It referenced Milo’s article, which – as Nick said – is extremely long and detailed. Although Lauren really isn’t at the center of the scandal, she’s the reason the scandal is of so much interest to so many people, and her seemingly preemptive retirement (announced, among other places, on Stefan Molyneux’s show the other day) immediately before the story became public only magnifies the speculation.

    Physically beautiful women who are advocates for the “far right” (using that phrase in a popular context) seem to cast a spell over the movement. I suspect that Faith Goldy, Britanny Pettibone, Lana Lokteff and others seem to give some right wingers a sense of validation by being beautiful people who embrace a political worldview that’s loudly proclaimed as “ugly” by the left. (A much broader, milder and more mainstream version of this took center stage in American politics several years ago with Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann and others.) I would imagine there are some young women in the alt-right and it’s periphery who see this an opportunity, of sorts, and try to take advantage of the political climate for personal gain, but it’s hard to know for sure if that’s the case with Lauren.

    Of the “e-girls” I mentioned, Lana Lokteff is the one who seems the most sincere to her cause, even though I don’t really align myself with many of her political views. She’s the one who seems to follow a personal life path that’s most in step with her stated beliefs…most notably with the selection of her husband. The other women have much more secret personal lives – and I don’t blame them for that at all – but it’s hard for fans and donors to assess just how “conservative” these conservative women really are.

    As far as the Hope not Hate connection goes, I suspect (for now, anyway) that Lauren is probably more guilty of blind opportunism than outright betrayal. Her slimy producers do put out a pretty visually impressive product, so she was likely going along with their nonsense in the same way opportunistic Hollywood leftists and feminists went along with Harvey Weinstein for all those years. Still, it’s hard to reconcile her choices given Ezra Levant’s very public condemnation of these two people just a few months ago.

    • Replies: @SFG
    I think the popularity of young, attractive female spokespeople is simpler than that. Who's a large part of the online far right? Young, often single men. What are young, single men more interested in than anything else?
  71. I suspect that Faith Goldy, Britanny Pettibone, Lana Lokteff and others seem to give some right wingers a sense of validation by being beautiful people who embrace a political worldview that’s loudly proclaimed as “ugly” by the left.

    More female presence = less fringe within the society

    Women are, fundamentally, conformists. That is, they choose the “handshakeworthy” option largely regardless of ideology.

    In the West that would be the culturally pozzed mainstream, i.e. anything but nationalism or the hard right.

    This explains the Alt Right’s dim views on women in politics, culminating in memes like “thot patrols” and “white sharia” at its extremes.

    However, what constitutes “handshakeworthy” has differed down the ages.

    Two to three generations ago, it was well known that European women voted relatively more for Christian conservative parties. In most countries, more women than men consider themselves religious, while far more men subscribe to outright atheism; a vast socio-demographic echo from centuries past, when religion was the bedrock of society as opposed to just another consumer item.

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/female-suffrage/

  72. Hail says: • Website
    @anon
    "Hierarchical but decentralized? How would that even work? Communists had the cell technique..."

    Unz recently published an article that mentioned an American conservative who tried and failed to replicate this cell technique. Tellingly, this strategy didn't work for American communists either. Very likely, this was due to the already established presence of powerful, well-connected institutions in the United States (plus relative prosperity discouraging the population), capable of opposing such groups. This kind of strategy in the modern world is doomed to failure for the same reasons. If you want to undermine the system, undermine trust in the institutions while giving people a realistic, achievable and diametrically opposite goal with a plan of action in mind.

    Unz recently published an article that mentioned an American conservative who tried and failed to replicate this cell technique

    I think anon[866] refers here to American Pravda: Secrets of Military Intelligence (published June 10, 2019).

    Relevant excerpt:

    [MORE]

    By 1958 [Revilo P.] Oliver had established himself as one of National Review‘s leading contributors, and he was contacted by a wealthy Massachusetts businessman named Robert Welch, who had been an early investor in the magazine but was greatly disappointed by its political ineffectiveness, and the two men corresponded and gradually became quite friendly. Welch said he was concerned that the publication focused largely on frivolity and pseudo-literary endeavors, while it increasingly minimized or ignored the conspiratorial role of the Jewish aliens who had gained such a degree of control over the country. The two men eventually met, and according to Oliver seemed to be entirely in agreement about America’s plight, which they discussed in complete candor.

    Late that same year, Welch described his plans for regaining control of the country by the creation of a semi-secret national organization of patriotic individuals, primarily drawn from the upper middle classes and prosperous businessman, which eventually became known as the John Birch Society. With its structure and strategy inspired by the Communist Party, it was to be tightly organized into individual local cells, whose members would then establish a network of front organizations for particular political projects, all seemingly unconnected but actually under their dominant influence. Secret directives would be passed along to each local chapter by the word of mouth via coordinators dispatched from Welch’s central headquarters, a system also modeled after the strict hierarchical discipline of Communist movements.

    Welch privately unveiled his proposal to a small group of prospective co-founders, all of whom with the exception of Oliver were wealthy businessmen. He candidly admitted his own atheism and explained that Christianity would have no role in the project, which cost him a couple of potential supporters; but about a dozen committed themselves, notably including Fred Koch, founding father of Koch Industries. Minimal emphasis was to be placed upon Jewish matters, partly to avoid drawing media fire and partly in hopes that a growing schism between Zionist and non-Zionist Jews might weaken their powerful adversary, or if the former gained the upper hand, perhaps help ensure the removal of all Jews to the Middle East.

    As the project moved forward, a monthly magazine called American Opinion was launched and Oliver took responsibility for a large portion of each issue. Given his academic and political prominence, he also became one of the leading speakers for the organization in public venues and also an influential visitor to many of its local chapters.

    Although Oliver remained a top figure in the organization until 1966, in later years he concluded that Welch’s serious mistakes had doomed the project to failure within just a couple of years after its establishment. Very early on, a Jewish journalist had obtained a copy of some of Welch’s secret, controversial writings and their public disclosure had panicked one of the most prominent Birch leaders, soon producing a major media scandal. Welch repeatedly vacillated between defending and denying his secret manuscript, forcing his associates to take contradictory positions, and making the entire leadership seem both dishonest and ridiculous, a pattern that was to be repeated in future years.

  73. @Swarthy Greek
    The no thot or homo rule applies for all revolutionary groups. The bolsheviks had no women involved in the central comittee and serious party organization, preferring instead strong macho men like Stalin and Dzherzhinsky, whereas the Socialist Revolutionaries let emotional women (ie: Fanny Kaplan) run the party aground/s

    Dzerzhinsky was a beta loser who got beaten up by Polish workers while trying to agitate against the Tsar.

    There must be some kind of achievement trophy for that…

    • LOL: Epigon
  74. @Dmitry
    Who are they and why are you interested in them? Are they connected or relatives to any important/rich or powerful people that would be interesting to research?

    What I got now as return on scraping of Lauren Southern social media.

    Her family is working class people – it does not look like she has interesting connections or relevance to important people.

    Main part of her family is in Canada, and another part is in America (in Texas). There are some South American (brown skin people) which are part of her family, and some branch of her family in America looked like “Evangelicals”

    So, nothing interesting

    • Replies: @iffen
    You seem to be pretty good at gathering information, just not any good at what to do with it or think about it.
    , @Epigon
    Did you find her picture before she Aryanized herself? Anne Frank’s cousin appearance.
    Or the detail where her grandparents fled from
    Denmark to escape Nazis?

    Anyone who follows women in politics and ideology, let alone donated money to them is an imbecile.

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    Out of curiosity, what do you use to scrape profiles and identify connections? Free/commercial software, or do you write you own scripts?

    (Feel free not to answer).

    ... Come to think of it, I suspect you've most likely done me. Interesting to know to what extent that "picture" correlates with what I publicly revealed of my biography.
  75. @Dmitry
    What I got now as return on scraping of Lauren Southern social media.

    Her family is working class people - it does not look like she has interesting connections or relevance to important people.

    Main part of her family is in Canada, and another part is in America (in Texas). There are some South American (brown skin people) which are part of her family, and some branch of her family in America looked like "Evangelicals"

    So, nothing interesting

    You seem to be pretty good at gathering information, just not any good at what to do with it or think about it.

  76. @Dmitry
    What I got now as return on scraping of Lauren Southern social media.

    Her family is working class people - it does not look like she has interesting connections or relevance to important people.

    Main part of her family is in Canada, and another part is in America (in Texas). There are some South American (brown skin people) which are part of her family, and some branch of her family in America looked like "Evangelicals"

    So, nothing interesting

    Did you find her picture before she Aryanized herself? Anne Frank’s cousin appearance.
    Or the detail where her grandparents fled from
    Denmark to escape Nazis?

    Anyone who follows women in politics and ideology, let alone donated money to them is an imbecile.

    • Agree: Thomm
    • Replies: @Dmitry
    No it only scraped some her family I think.

    But her family does not look like rich or important people (to understate how they look).

    The interesting thing is maybe that, although she is Canadian, she has American (Texas) family, and also parts of her family which must be married to nationalities like Colombians.


    Did you find her picture before she Aryanized herself? Anne Frank’s cousin appearance
     
    Lol no. I can't search pictures. All I get returned quickly is a lot of connections between profiles.
  77. @J1234
    I first heard about this last night on Nick Fuente's show. It referenced Milo's article, which - as Nick said - is extremely long and detailed. Although Lauren really isn't at the center of the scandal, she's the reason the scandal is of so much interest to so many people, and her seemingly preemptive retirement (announced, among other places, on Stefan Molyneux's show the other day) immediately before the story became public only magnifies the speculation.

    Physically beautiful women who are advocates for the "far right" (using that phrase in a popular context) seem to cast a spell over the movement. I suspect that Faith Goldy, Britanny Pettibone, Lana Lokteff and others seem to give some right wingers a sense of validation by being beautiful people who embrace a political worldview that's loudly proclaimed as "ugly" by the left. (A much broader, milder and more mainstream version of this took center stage in American politics several years ago with Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann and others.) I would imagine there are some young women in the alt-right and it's periphery who see this an opportunity, of sorts, and try to take advantage of the political climate for personal gain, but it's hard to know for sure if that's the case with Lauren.

    Of the "e-girls" I mentioned, Lana Lokteff is the one who seems the most sincere to her cause, even though I don't really align myself with many of her political views. She's the one who seems to follow a personal life path that's most in step with her stated beliefs...most notably with the selection of her husband. The other women have much more secret personal lives - and I don't blame them for that at all - but it's hard for fans and donors to assess just how "conservative" these conservative women really are.

    As far as the Hope not Hate connection goes, I suspect (for now, anyway) that Lauren is probably more guilty of blind opportunism than outright betrayal. Her slimy producers do put out a pretty visually impressive product, so she was likely going along with their nonsense in the same way opportunistic Hollywood leftists and feminists went along with Harvey Weinstein for all those years. Still, it's hard to reconcile her choices given Ezra Levant's very public condemnation of these two people just a few months ago.

    I think the popularity of young, attractive female spokespeople is simpler than that. Who’s a large part of the online far right? Young, often single men. What are young, single men more interested in than anything else?

  78. @Epigon
    Did you find her picture before she Aryanized herself? Anne Frank’s cousin appearance.
    Or the detail where her grandparents fled from
    Denmark to escape Nazis?

    Anyone who follows women in politics and ideology, let alone donated money to them is an imbecile.

    No it only scraped some her family I think.

    But her family does not look like rich or important people (to understate how they look).

    The interesting thing is maybe that, although she is Canadian, she has American (Texas) family, and also parts of her family which must be married to nationalities like Colombians.

    Did you find her picture before she Aryanized herself? Anne Frank’s cousin appearance

    Lol no. I can’t search pictures. All I get returned quickly is a lot of connections between profiles.

  79. @Dmitry
    That Twitter is Roosh - the same scamming brown immigrant to America we talked about here:
    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/based-putler/#comment-3244420

    After I watched the Ukrainian talkshow video of him on YouTube - YouTube started putting his videos on my recommended videos for about a week. I didn't want to clear cookies, but after a few days YouTube stops recommending them to me.

    The issue here is instead solving his real life problem (washing regularly, having a hair cut, etc), he spams YouTube with videos of his face, which YouTube then promotes to people who do not want to watch him.

    It's predictable his emotions on Twitter will feel angry that this woman is having sex with men, just as a symptom that women do not want to have sex with him except when he pays for prostitutes in Ukraine.

    After I watched the Ukrainian talkshow video of him on YouTube – YouTube started putting his videos on my recommended videos for about a week.

    Some second-hand embarrassment, that video. The TV show of course intended to mock him and they can use camera tricks to make people look ridiculous, but no one forced him to come to the studio with that disheveled hair.

    I think Roosh also wrote that Beauty is Objective and only skinny supermodels were ever considered attractive. Quite ignorant for a self-styled advocate of traditional Western culture, should have visited fewer bars and more museums.

    • Replies: @Dmitry

    but no one forced him to come to the studio with that disheveled hair.

     

    And without charm, self-awareness, or ability to talk like normal person.

    After I watched that video of him, YouTube was recommending this loser's videos to me for days later though - so be careful what you click.

    , @Jaakko Raipala
    People do art of ugly fat people even today, actually it seems that people are more likely to make art out of ugly people than beautiful people. Why would yesterday be different? Why should we assume that the fact that some painter painted some bunch of people back in the day means that he considered them especially attractive? Perhaps the old artists often also thought that subverting expectations and painting something other than the standard of beauty would draw attention to their work?
  80. Anonymous[205] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm
    No one who is actually red-pill (a term that applies to gender realism, which is far harder to grok than race realism) was fooled by Lauren Southern and Tomi Lahren for a minute. Everyone from Roosh to Captain Capitalism called Lauren Southern out for what she was.

    The problem is that the WN wing of the 'alt right' is not 'right' at all, but is rather just a new incarnation of the paleo-left.

    More specifically, race-centric ideologies always agree with feminism on 99% of issues. They are among the biggest whiteknights around. It is no secret that WN is about 95% male, with the few women present just to bilk the needy omega males.

    There are a lot of beta males who want watch videos made by attractive women. Thus, attractive women can achieve great fame even if they don’t have anything original to say. That is the situation and no amount of jealous whining from Roosh is going to change it. It doesn’t mean that these women are necessarily insincere. You should treat them like you’d treat a man doing the same thing. If he doesn’t have anything interesting to say, don’t say anything about him. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference, and the guys who are personally miffed at Lauren Southern’s popularity look just as pathetic as the white knights who eagerly defend her.

    • Replies: @Jaakko Raipala
    It's especially sad when it comes from a 40ish year old man who should know by now that the beauty of young women fades really fast. It would be more understandable for some 21 year old video game streamer to resent the fact that any mildly attractive 21 year old woman with no particular skill can get an audience and donations while a young guy has to be either exceptionally talented or entertaining to do the same.
  81. @Dmitry
    What I got now as return on scraping of Lauren Southern social media.

    Her family is working class people - it does not look like she has interesting connections or relevance to important people.

    Main part of her family is in Canada, and another part is in America (in Texas). There are some South American (brown skin people) which are part of her family, and some branch of her family in America looked like "Evangelicals"

    So, nothing interesting

    Out of curiosity, what do you use to scrape profiles and identify connections? Free/commercial software, or do you write you own scripts?

    (Feel free not to answer).

    … Come to think of it, I suspect you’ve most likely done me. Interesting to know to what extent that “picture” correlates with what I publicly revealed of my biography.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    Personally I was not interested to look about your social media, only saw that you have Twitter.

    It would be imbalanced anyway, because you're public, while our social media is not read by you.

    That said, you have some crazy stalkers, so probably you should be careful not to give information too much in general.

    -

    As for analysing peoples' social media, legal situation is actually not very clear.

    Also just because it is easy to see things - does not imply it is a good idea to see them, and it would be better just to warn those people to be less public with their information.

    It would be informative for future historians or political analysts though. .

  82. @anonymous
    https://0.api.artsmia.org/800/126882.jpg
    typical alt-right gathering

    As Mr. Karlin said many times, right and alt-right have, to put it mildly, human capital problem.

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/the-rights-human-capital-problem/

    https://sceptremag.com/2017/11/22/eastern-europe-and-the-swine-right/

    Movement of low IQ morons, lunatics, psychos and grifters will not move forward without some high IQ, well educated, well adjusted and sane people.
    But why should these people join alt-right?

    Until alt-right HBDIQ movement finds some way to recruit actual high IQ, genetically superior people, it is doomed.

    Agreed. It’s high IQ, successful people like me that should be playing key roles in the movement. However, they keep proving to be a bunch of jackasses so I’m not about to throw away my career and income to support it.

    I remember before UTR in Charlottesville, I still believed the AR had a chance. So I was thinking that I would be prepared to make major lifestyle changes in the future to support the movement. Obviously this has now totally evaporated.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude

    It’s high IQ, successful people like me
     
    Didn't you literally admit to being middle class couple posts ago, and how you enjoyed eating scrummy tuna sandwiches in the lunchroom cafeteria, or how you love your 12 year old broken-down car?

    Success is subjective, but godamn if that isnt a low bar. No offense intended, you might really enjoy your line of work idk.

    In all honesty, I do think your IQ is probably between 110-118. Not higher, but there. Which is ok


    Oh btw NAV has a show in Montreal today. or had. Just saw his stories on Instagram. Full of whites. Just thought you might like to know

  83. Anonymous[205] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    "If your thinking of starting a far-right, nationalist based organization don’t allow it to be led or hijacked"

    That's a nearly impossible task between grifters, intelligence service proxies like HNH/SPLC/ADL/etc, and the government seeking to infiltrate your group. Probably the only thing that would work at this point is a partition of the United States. That option would essentially deplatform the entirety of the left, along with most of the grifters and the government, in one swoop. When the democrats retake the White House in 2020, this will be the only option remaining for the American right, and I predict that it will begin to be taken seriously at that point due to demographic changes. Even just two months ago I would have discounted that possibility; however, the willingness of Florida to rescind the First Amendment over antisemitism (even if it's wrong) and states like Alabama, Mississippi, and Georgia to thumb their noses at the reigning orthodoxy over abortion tells me that there is a growing number of people in moderately powerful positions on the right spoiling for a fight with their racist, left-wing enemies - sick of being used by Conservatism Inc. and unwilling to be controlled by the national GOP.

    Here’s my idea of some good ground-rules. In your organization, people get prestige by doing these things:

    1. Writing books or articles or youtube videos which reflect a high reading level.
    2. Running for office and actually getting votes.

    The following do not give people prestige:

    1. Being featured on the mainstream media as an example of the Evil People.
    2. Leading a riot or demonstration or street fight.
    3. Making youtube videos with youtube-typical levels of vocabulary.
    4. Forming a political party which doesn’t actually run in elections.
    5. Having a website with a high alexa rating.

  84. @Anatoly Karlin
    Out of curiosity, what do you use to scrape profiles and identify connections? Free/commercial software, or do you write you own scripts?

    (Feel free not to answer).

    ... Come to think of it, I suspect you've most likely done me. Interesting to know to what extent that "picture" correlates with what I publicly revealed of my biography.

    Personally I was not interested to look about your social media, only saw that you have Twitter.

    It would be imbalanced anyway, because you’re public, while our social media is not read by you.

    That said, you have some crazy stalkers, so probably you should be careful not to give information too much in general.

    As for analysing peoples’ social media, legal situation is actually not very clear.

    Also just because it is easy to see things – does not imply it is a good idea to see them, and it would be better just to warn those people to be less public with their information.

    It would be informative for future historians or political analysts though. .

    • Replies: @Anonymoose
    You yourself seem to be an expert on stalking. You are an exert on internet research digging into people's personal lives.
  85. @Toronto Russian

    After I watched the Ukrainian talkshow video of him on YouTube – YouTube started putting his videos on my recommended videos for about a week.
     
    Some second-hand embarrassment, that video. The TV show of course intended to mock him and they can use camera tricks to make people look ridiculous, but no one forced him to come to the studio with that disheveled hair.

    I think Roosh also wrote that Beauty is Objective and only skinny supermodels were ever considered attractive. Quite ignorant for a self-styled advocate of traditional Western culture, should have visited fewer bars and more museums.

    https://sr.gallerix.ru/_UNK/1265835004/1949469308.jpg

    https://sr.gallerix.ru/_EX/2037947957/460598754.jpg

    but no one forced him to come to the studio with that disheveled hair.

    And without charm, self-awareness, or ability to talk like normal person.

    After I watched that video of him, YouTube was recommending this loser’s videos to me for days later though – so be careful what you click.

  86. @gate666
    remember homophobia is usually associated with low iq.

    Proof? How big is the correlation? How big is the sample size? Population? How big is the difference?

    I’ll wait

  87. @Dmitry
    Personally I was not interested to look about your social media, only saw that you have Twitter.

    It would be imbalanced anyway, because you're public, while our social media is not read by you.

    That said, you have some crazy stalkers, so probably you should be careful not to give information too much in general.

    -

    As for analysing peoples' social media, legal situation is actually not very clear.

    Also just because it is easy to see things - does not imply it is a good idea to see them, and it would be better just to warn those people to be less public with their information.

    It would be informative for future historians or political analysts though. .

    You yourself seem to be an expert on stalking. You are an exert on internet research digging into people’s personal lives.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    He does seem to spend a lot of time 'analysing' the instagrams of the daughters of famous Russians
  88. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Agreed. It's high IQ, successful people like me that should be playing key roles in the movement. However, they keep proving to be a bunch of jackasses so I'm not about to throw away my career and income to support it.

    I remember before UTR in Charlottesville, I still believed the AR had a chance. So I was thinking that I would be prepared to make major lifestyle changes in the future to support the movement. Obviously this has now totally evaporated.

    It’s high IQ, successful people like me

    Didn’t you literally admit to being middle class couple posts ago, and how you enjoyed eating scrummy tuna sandwiches in the lunchroom cafeteria, or how you love your 12 year old broken-down car?

    Success is subjective, but godamn if that isnt a low bar. No offense intended, you might really enjoy your line of work idk.

    In all honesty, I do think your IQ is probably between 110-118. Not higher, but there. Which is ok

    Oh btw NAV has a show in Montreal today. or had. Just saw his stories on Instagram. Full of whites. Just thought you might like to know

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Didn’t you literally admit to being middle class couple posts ago, and how you enjoyed eating scrummy tuna sandwiches in the lunchroom cafeteria, or how you love your 12 year old broken-down car?
     
    I am middle class. Middle class without being $700,000 in debt, like most of the Canadian "middle class" is. Looks are deceiving my Bangla friend.

    The whole point of that conversation was that whites don't feel the need to flex as much as non-whites. You see people up to their eyeballs in debt, not saving any money, but hey they leased an M3 so they must be rich!

    In all honesty, I do think your IQ is probably between 110-118.

     

    I appreciate the honest quote. It's close to that estimate, but slightly higher in fact.

    Full of whites.
     
    That's why the white race is going extinct. I wouldn't hold up much of what "we" do as an example nowadays.
  89. @Anonymoose
    Did you read that part about Caolan's boyfriend being a former transgender who now identifies as male. Also [email protected] that pic of those two sipping champagne together. Awww how cute!!!!

    I’m confused, in that photo which one is Robertson and which one is George?
    On second thought, never mind, it doesn’t matter to anyone including themselves. It’s all just protoplasm.

  90. @Toronto Russian

    After I watched the Ukrainian talkshow video of him on YouTube – YouTube started putting his videos on my recommended videos for about a week.
     
    Some second-hand embarrassment, that video. The TV show of course intended to mock him and they can use camera tricks to make people look ridiculous, but no one forced him to come to the studio with that disheveled hair.

    I think Roosh also wrote that Beauty is Objective and only skinny supermodels were ever considered attractive. Quite ignorant for a self-styled advocate of traditional Western culture, should have visited fewer bars and more museums.

    https://sr.gallerix.ru/_UNK/1265835004/1949469308.jpg

    https://sr.gallerix.ru/_EX/2037947957/460598754.jpg

    People do art of ugly fat people even today, actually it seems that people are more likely to make art out of ugly people than beautiful people. Why would yesterday be different? Why should we assume that the fact that some painter painted some bunch of people back in the day means that he considered them especially attractive? Perhaps the old artists often also thought that subverting expectations and painting something other than the standard of beauty would draw attention to their work?

    • Replies: @melanf

    erhaps the old artists often also thought that subverting expectations and painting something other than the standard of beauty would draw attention to their work?
     
    Standards of beauty really (slightly) changed

    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a76fa4cf14aa12abdf1c4c5/5cdeb5181a2031000176e464/5ce18e780713ee0001674674/1558528361842/retronaut-content-skinny.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d3/cd/e2/d3cde2ffc6a3d90ddd232ac17c51dc33--s-ads-weight-gain.jpg

    _____________________

    By the way - anyone can explain why the wives of Henry 8 was very ugly (judging from portraits)? It's an unsolvable mystery to me.
  91. @Anonymous
    There are a lot of beta males who want watch videos made by attractive women. Thus, attractive women can achieve great fame even if they don't have anything original to say. That is the situation and no amount of jealous whining from Roosh is going to change it. It doesn't mean that these women are necessarily insincere. You should treat them like you'd treat a man doing the same thing. If he doesn't have anything interesting to say, don't say anything about him. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference, and the guys who are personally miffed at Lauren Southern's popularity look just as pathetic as the white knights who eagerly defend her.

    It’s especially sad when it comes from a 40ish year old man who should know by now that the beauty of young women fades really fast. It would be more understandable for some 21 year old video game streamer to resent the fact that any mildly attractive 21 year old woman with no particular skill can get an audience and donations while a young guy has to be either exceptionally talented or entertaining to do the same.

  92. @Jaakko Raipala
    People do art of ugly fat people even today, actually it seems that people are more likely to make art out of ugly people than beautiful people. Why would yesterday be different? Why should we assume that the fact that some painter painted some bunch of people back in the day means that he considered them especially attractive? Perhaps the old artists often also thought that subverting expectations and painting something other than the standard of beauty would draw attention to their work?

    erhaps the old artists often also thought that subverting expectations and painting something other than the standard of beauty would draw attention to their work?

    Standards of beauty really (slightly) changed

    _____________________

    By the way – anyone can explain why the wives of Henry 8 was very ugly (judging from portraits)? It’s an unsolvable mystery to me.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    Women still don't like (actually) skinny women though, only homo photographers.
    , @Jaakko Raipala
    I think what mostly changed is relative perception of what is skinny. The average in the West is much chubbier now than a couple of generations ago with all the easy fast food, soft drinks and so on so being "skinny" relative to our expectations means being "normal" according to our grandparents. The "skinny" of our grandparents would be considered anorexic today.
  93. @melanf

    erhaps the old artists often also thought that subverting expectations and painting something other than the standard of beauty would draw attention to their work?
     
    Standards of beauty really (slightly) changed

    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a76fa4cf14aa12abdf1c4c5/5cdeb5181a2031000176e464/5ce18e780713ee0001674674/1558528361842/retronaut-content-skinny.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d3/cd/e2/d3cde2ffc6a3d90ddd232ac17c51dc33--s-ads-weight-gain.jpg

    _____________________

    By the way - anyone can explain why the wives of Henry 8 was very ugly (judging from portraits)? It's an unsolvable mystery to me.

    Women still don’t like (actually) skinny women though, only homo photographers.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    I meant 'men don't like skinny women', although women also dislike them
  94. @Anonymoose
    You yourself seem to be an expert on stalking. You are an exert on internet research digging into people's personal lives.

    He does seem to spend a lot of time ‘analysing’ the instagrams of the daughters of famous Russians

    • Replies: @Mitleser
    Dmitry is (pro-)Globo, but not Homo.
  95. @Kent Nationalist
    He does seem to spend a lot of time 'analysing' the instagrams of the daughters of famous Russians

    Dmitry is (pro-)Globo, but not Homo.

  96. @Kent Nationalist
    Women still don't like (actually) skinny women though, only homo photographers.

    I meant ‘men don’t like skinny women’, although women also dislike them

  97. The only people who like skinny/barebone/anorexic women/models are pedophillic/homosexual designers because these girls are reminiscent of pre-puberty boys.

  98. @melanf

    erhaps the old artists often also thought that subverting expectations and painting something other than the standard of beauty would draw attention to their work?
     
    Standards of beauty really (slightly) changed

    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a76fa4cf14aa12abdf1c4c5/5cdeb5181a2031000176e464/5ce18e780713ee0001674674/1558528361842/retronaut-content-skinny.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d3/cd/e2/d3cde2ffc6a3d90ddd232ac17c51dc33--s-ads-weight-gain.jpg

    _____________________

    By the way - anyone can explain why the wives of Henry 8 was very ugly (judging from portraits)? It's an unsolvable mystery to me.

    I think what mostly changed is relative perception of what is skinny. The average in the West is much chubbier now than a couple of generations ago with all the easy fast food, soft drinks and so on so being “skinny” relative to our expectations means being “normal” according to our grandparents. The “skinny” of our grandparents would be considered anorexic today.

    • Replies: @melanf

    I think what mostly changed is relative perception of what is skinny
     
    Undoubtedly, but there is a real change in the standard of beauty - the modern ideal has become higher and thinner (which you can see from the images on advertising)
  99. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:

    Here are a couple of interesting (and relevant) posts on Southern from 4chan*:

    “She’s a literal agent. All the pro (((southern))) shills have gone quiet since that full brown love speech she made in the EU. Despite the years we’ve been telling them she’s a controlled op … who gives no shits about white replacement and is feigning interest for popularity and money.

    She actually says how her opinion on it has changed since making her latest documentary and that she feels for the “refugees” now after spending time with them and that Europe shouldn’t turn away good people and that many of them aren’t a threat, it just needs to be legislated properly. She even said she found one of the migrants attractive. Then we have random brown people in the audience saying “You’ve made such great progress miss Southern!”

    Simonsen (her real name) also assists the authorities in raids on nationalist groups (GI, NA and SoO) just days or weeks after she went there with cameras and subverts her own colleagues (Faith Goldy and the South Africa scandal or the deportation and banning scandal in the UK with Sellner and Pettibone) for money and to control the narrative. She also knows the HnH leaders (directly funded by Soros and are the public face of the communist thugs Antifa) by first name as if she’s personally familiar with [them] and fully aware that her gay cameraman records every conversation with pro white figures.* He and his boyfriend did meet the leaders in private hotel rooms repeatedly as well as did she. … Caolan and the George (think thats his name) disavowed their politics and affiliations in a preprepared PDF document over the weekend saying they were radicalised by the far right and alt right. Calling it now. All 3 of them will be shilling for the left in time for the 2020 cycle.”

    AND

    “It’s not a coincidence those two have essentially cut her off not been seen together for almost 12 months. Lauren appears and this happens to Martin and Brittany:
    >Rapidly growing organisation
    >She gets full access to the inner workings of the organisation
    >Meets and secretly records ALL leaders and branch leaders across Europe via Caolan.
    >Martin and Britt get arrested,detained in a migrant centre and banned from the UK for “extremist views”(apparently pro ethnic European is extreme) while trying to attend the opening of GI England
    >GI Austria gets raided by authorities for “criminal activities” after evidence from a “tip off”
    >Major trial to prove or disprove GI are a criminal group (later found not guilty but new separate individual trials are ongoing)
    >GI leaders being firebombed by antifa on a regular basis in Germany, Austria and France.
    >Getting shut down by every major company. For example Martin has had 15 banks shut their accounts with him.”

    https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/215898693/#q215908306

    *(1) The Milo article demonstrates that she knew the gay duo were talking to HnH and meeting with them. She could not have been unaware that the two possessed potentially damaging video on HnH opponents and might have been asked for it in these meetings. She either knew and dismissed the issue because she was a grifter only interested in money or she was directly in on it. Don’t be naive.
    (2) I think it should be clear by now that these various NGOs (ADL, SPLC, etc.) are all third party proxies for the intelligence services of various state regimes. Of course, MI5/6 & CIA/FBI can’t just spy on and interfere with domestic political groups, but as with the 5 Eyes arrangement, they can use a technicality to get others to do their dirty work on their behalf. That’s what these groups do; they are contractors, so to speak. You’re fighting the state and not simply liberals or political correctness anymore.

    The FBI, for instance, had deep links for many years with the SPLC; they often accepted information from this group that they would have been hard-pressed to collect themselves without being accused of impropriety. That’s exactly what happens under the 5 Eyes arrangement where the CIA and NSA collect information on Americans through foreign groups that they can’t legally collect themselves.

    Think about it. They do all the same things a secret political police service would do: infiltrate groups; build intelligence files on enemies; plant damaging information in the press to discredit enemies; secretly record dissidents; they have an elaborate spy network collecting information; they flip dissidents; they plant moles; they coordinate with financial services to ruin opponents; they use media assets to attack critics; they use third party groups to terrorize dissidents with the threat of violence; they selectively deplatform critics from the public square; they use controlled opposition to steer public opinion …

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist

    She actually says how her opinion on it has changed since making her latest documentary and that she feels for the “refugees” now after spending time with them and that Europe shouldn’t turn away good people and that many of them aren’t a threat, it just needs to be legislated properly. She even said she found one of the migrants attractive. Then we have random brown people in the audience saying “You’ve made such great progress miss Southern!”

     

    She was reading the script one of the homos wrote for her.

    The evidence that you present does not support the claim that she herself is in some way a spy, since it is also explained by the established fact that she covered for the other two who are spies
    , @216
    It's foolish to think the problem is only one of these women. Goldy is a dumpster fire, and Pettibone has at the very least enabled Southern. The gushing praise she gave her (when knowing full well her background) leads me to suspect worse. Notice how we don't hear anything from the other sister anymore. Sellner is a comedy of errors.

    It would also be nice to put the squeeze on Molyneux, find out if Southern traded favors to him.

    Transnational e-celebs are a bad idea for a 'nationalist' movement. It's even worse when rich kids are grifting for money out of their working-class supporters.

    We have egg on our face here, for all of our machismo posturing, most of our people are thirsty beta males that are tripped up by their lack of self-control. Camgirls need to be driven out of politics, and that starts by taking a look at ourselves in the mirror.
    , @James Forrestal

    Simonsen (her real name)
     
    Pic related. Not dispositive, but... interesting.

    http://i67.tinypic.com/1hut1g.jpg


    This whole thing is a little too much gay drama -- reported on by a dramatic gay, of course. Tough to tell how much is legit.
  100. @Jaakko Raipala
    I think what mostly changed is relative perception of what is skinny. The average in the West is much chubbier now than a couple of generations ago with all the easy fast food, soft drinks and so on so being "skinny" relative to our expectations means being "normal" according to our grandparents. The "skinny" of our grandparents would be considered anorexic today.

    I think what mostly changed is relative perception of what is skinny

    Undoubtedly, but there is a real change in the standard of beauty – the modern ideal has become higher and thinner (which you can see from the images on advertising)

    • Replies: @melanf
    https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3605/22306448.b8/0_210581_aaaaa1e6_XXXL.jpg

    https://a.radikal.ru/a05/1906/ce/e7159584fcdc.jpg
    , @Dmitry
    It's true, the ideal for beauty in competitions and the media, has changed since even the 1990s.

    For example, the majority of women in the beauty competition now have become a bit too slim and skinny, and quite a few girls have obvious eating disorders.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Buk0XLy6ZR4

    Compare with from 5:25 below in the 1990s - there were a couple of skinny girls, but in general most of the girls had more attractive and healthier figures than in today's competition.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz50VYrSRyE

  101. @melanf

    I think what mostly changed is relative perception of what is skinny
     
    Undoubtedly, but there is a real change in the standard of beauty - the modern ideal has become higher and thinner (which you can see from the images on advertising)

  102. @Rosie

    I remember people shitting on Roosh for warning “tradthots” are not trad. What a suprise. Such “tradthots” are no different to the shameles, licentious sluts one can find at the nightclub.
     
    Roosh can go straight to hell.

    A movement composed entirely of men hax literally no chance whatsoever of ever influencing the mainstream. Roosh doesn't care about that. He's not white and has no reason to care about that.

    I remember people shitting on Roosh for warning “tradthots” are not trad. What a suprise. Such “tradthots” are no different to the shameles, licentious sluts one can find at the nightclub.

    Roosh can go straight to hell.

    Rosie believes that all TRUE conservatives simply MUST oppose ‘slut-shaming’.”

    lol

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Rosie believes that all TRUE conservatives simply MUST oppose ‘slut-shaming’.”
     
    Traditionally that has been the job of women. Kind of like trade unionists wanting to keep immigrants out.
  103. @Anon
    Here are a couple of interesting (and relevant) posts on Southern from 4chan*:

    "She's a literal agent. All the pro (((southern))) shills have gone quiet since that full brown love speech she made in the EU. Despite the years we've been telling them she's a controlled op ... who gives no shits about white replacement and is feigning interest for popularity and money.

    She actually says how her opinion on it has changed since making her latest documentary and that she feels for the "refugees" now after spending time with them and that Europe shouldn't turn away good people and that many of them aren't a threat, it just needs to be legislated properly. She even said she found one of the migrants attractive. Then we have random brown people in the audience saying "You've made such great progress miss Southern!"

    Simonsen (her real name) also assists the authorities in raids on nationalist groups (GI, NA and SoO) just days or weeks after she went there with cameras and subverts her own colleagues (Faith Goldy and the South Africa scandal or the deportation and banning scandal in the UK with Sellner and Pettibone) for money and to control the narrative. She also knows the HnH leaders (directly funded by Soros and are the public face of the communist thugs Antifa) by first name as if she's personally familiar with [them] and fully aware that her gay cameraman records every conversation with pro white figures.* He and his boyfriend did meet the leaders in private hotel rooms repeatedly as well as did she. ... Caolan and the George (think thats his name) disavowed their politics and affiliations in a preprepared PDF document over the weekend saying they were radicalised by the far right and alt right. Calling it now. All 3 of them will be shilling for the left in time for the 2020 cycle."

    AND

    "It's not a coincidence those two have essentially cut her off not been seen together for almost 12 months. Lauren appears and this happens to Martin and Brittany:
    >Rapidly growing organisation
    >She gets full access to the inner workings of the organisation
    >Meets and secretly records ALL leaders and branch leaders across Europe via Caolan.
    >Martin and Britt get arrested,detained in a migrant centre and banned from the UK for "extremist views"(apparently pro ethnic European is extreme) while trying to attend the opening of GI England
    >GI Austria gets raided by authorities for "criminal activities" after evidence from a "tip off"
    >Major trial to prove or disprove GI are a criminal group (later found not guilty but new separate individual trials are ongoing)
    >GI leaders being firebombed by antifa on a regular basis in Germany, Austria and France.
    >Getting shut down by every major company. For example Martin has had 15 banks shut their accounts with him."

    https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/215898693/#q215908306

    *(1) The Milo article demonstrates that she knew the gay duo were talking to HnH and meeting with them. She could not have been unaware that the two possessed potentially damaging video on HnH opponents and might have been asked for it in these meetings. She either knew and dismissed the issue because she was a grifter only interested in money or she was directly in on it. Don't be naive.
    (2) I think it should be clear by now that these various NGOs (ADL, SPLC, etc.) are all third party proxies for the intelligence services of various state regimes. Of course, MI5/6 & CIA/FBI can't just spy on and interfere with domestic political groups, but as with the 5 Eyes arrangement, they can use a technicality to get others to do their dirty work on their behalf. That's what these groups do; they are contractors, so to speak. You're fighting the state and not simply liberals or political correctness anymore.

    The FBI, for instance, had deep links for many years with the SPLC; they often accepted information from this group that they would have been hard-pressed to collect themselves without being accused of impropriety. That's exactly what happens under the 5 Eyes arrangement where the CIA and NSA collect information on Americans through foreign groups that they can't legally collect themselves.

    Think about it. They do all the same things a secret political police service would do: infiltrate groups; build intelligence files on enemies; plant damaging information in the press to discredit enemies; secretly record dissidents; they have an elaborate spy network collecting information; they flip dissidents; they plant moles; they coordinate with financial services to ruin opponents; they use media assets to attack critics; they use third party groups to terrorize dissidents with the threat of violence; they selectively deplatform critics from the public square; they use controlled opposition to steer public opinion ...

    She actually says how her opinion on it has changed since making her latest documentary and that she feels for the “refugees” now after spending time with them and that Europe shouldn’t turn away good people and that many of them aren’t a threat, it just needs to be legislated properly. She even said she found one of the migrants attractive. Then we have random brown people in the audience saying “You’ve made such great progress miss Southern!”

    She was reading the script one of the homos wrote for her.

    The evidence that you present does not support the claim that she herself is in some way a spy, since it is also explained by the established fact that she covered for the other two who are spies

  104. @melanf

    I think what mostly changed is relative perception of what is skinny
     
    Undoubtedly, but there is a real change in the standard of beauty - the modern ideal has become higher and thinner (which you can see from the images on advertising)

    It’s true, the ideal for beauty in competitions and the media, has changed since even the 1990s.

    For example, the majority of women in the beauty competition now have become a bit too slim and skinny, and quite a few girls have obvious eating disorders.

    Compare with from 5:25 below in the 1990s – there were a couple of skinny girls, but in general most of the girls had more attractive and healthier figures than in today’s competition.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    The ones in 2016 all look very toned and healthy. Complaining about eating disorders = codeword for fat acceptance.

    The khokhlushka at 5:49 is definitely veering towards chubby and will look very bad by her 40s.
  105. @JAmes Forrestal

    I remember people shitting on Roosh for warning “tradthots” are not trad. What a suprise. Such “tradthots” are no different to the shameles, licentious sluts one can find at the nightclub.

    Roosh can go straight to hell.
     
    Rosie believes that all TRUE conservatives simply MUST oppose 'slut-shaming'."

    lol

    Rosie believes that all TRUE conservatives simply MUST oppose ‘slut-shaming’.”

    Traditionally that has been the job of women. Kind of like trade unionists wanting to keep immigrants out.

    • Replies: @Rosie

    Traditionally that has been the job of women. Kind of like trade unionists wanting to keep immigrants out.
     
    We're not going to do your dirty work for you. We'll bring back slut-shaming just as soon as you bring back shotgun marriages.
    , @JAmes Forrestal

    Traditionally that has been the job of women.
     
    Well yeah -- they're the ones that enforce it. But they have to have an accepted societal standard to enforce. In the current situation, from an individual standpoint, advertising sexual availability/ attention whoring is incentivized, with no real countervailing force. Encourages a kind of race to the bottom by women, with no minimum standard.

    Kind of like trade unionists wanting to keep immigrants out.
     
    Funny you should say that. Maybe your analogy holds pretty well -- because a lot of unions seem to be promoting amnesty/ open borders these days...

    https://www.seiu.org/cards/the-8-worst-myths-about-immigration

    Though tbh, Roosh's message seemed to be aimed more at his (presumably predominantly male) readers -- along the lines of "When it comes to politics, don't let your thirst override your reason," rather than an attack on e-thots directly.
  106. That’s because the only legit youtube character is probably Squatting Slav TV. Doubt they could pull that shit on him

  107. @Reg Cæsar

    Rosie believes that all TRUE conservatives simply MUST oppose ‘slut-shaming’.”
     
    Traditionally that has been the job of women. Kind of like trade unionists wanting to keep immigrants out.

    Traditionally that has been the job of women. Kind of like trade unionists wanting to keep immigrants out.

    We’re not going to do your dirty work for you. We’ll bring back slut-shaming just as soon as you bring back shotgun marriages.

    • Replies: @216
    Kidnapping is a felony

    A marriage made under duress is legally void.

    Legally you cannot discriminate employment based on marital status.

    , @dfordoom

    We’ll bring back slut-shaming just as soon as you bring back shotgun marriages.
     
    So you're in favour of shotgun marriages?
  108. We’re not going to do your dirty work for you.

    It’s not our dirty work. Men see sluts as employers see immigrants– as cheap labor.

    • Replies: @Rosie

    It’s not our dirty work. Men see sluts as employers see immigrants– as cheap labor.
     
    Either way, we're not doing it.
  109. anon[211] • Disclaimer says:

    “She was reading the script one of the homos wrote for her.”

    What exactly prevented her from telling them to rewrite it according to some other viewpoint? You’re telling me she’s so dumb she couldn’t make relatively minor alterations to the script on her own? Puh-leaze. It’s obvious what was going on here. She didn’t just meet with this group for no reason.

    “The evidence that you present does not support the claim that she herself is in some way a spy, since it is also explained by the established fact that she covered for the other two who are spies.”

    That doesn’t even make sense. It’s clear what happened here, and it’s highly implied by the evidence at hand. Unless, of course, you believe all of that to be mere coincidence. Don’t be naive.

  110. @Dmitry
    It's true, the ideal for beauty in competitions and the media, has changed since even the 1990s.

    For example, the majority of women in the beauty competition now have become a bit too slim and skinny, and quite a few girls have obvious eating disorders.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Buk0XLy6ZR4

    Compare with from 5:25 below in the 1990s - there were a couple of skinny girls, but in general most of the girls had more attractive and healthier figures than in today's competition.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz50VYrSRyE

    The ones in 2016 all look very toned and healthy. Complaining about eating disorders = codeword for fat acceptance.

    The khokhlushka at 5:49 is definitely veering towards chubby and will look very bad by her 40s.

  111. One of the reasons WN subculture has merged with ‘wigger’ subculture is the fact that WNs have a preference* for female obesity just like black men do.

    *I am referring to the heterosexual WNs here (60%), not the homosexual ones (40%).

    • Replies: @anon

    One of the reasons WN subculture has merged with ‘wigger’ subculture is the fact that WNs have a preference* for female obesity just like black men do.

    *I am referring to the heterosexual WNs here (60%), not the homosexual ones (40%).
     
    This might be true for the real-life alt righters, but they are minuscule minority of the movement.

    Overwhelming majority of alt-right is online only, and, judging by their taste of Japanese cartoons and real life tiny Asian schoolgirs, they are nearly exclusive pedophiles.

    This is another sign that there is nothing genuine in the movement.

    According to alt-right ideology, war is the most noble and glorious purpose of human existence. Meaning of man's life is to fight and prepare for fighting, and meaning of woman's life is to give birth to new warriors. The purpose of sex is to breed new strong warriors for eternal struggle, all else is "degeneracy".
    If they were for real, the alt-right would idolize the biggest and strongest, most gorilla-like women, not "lolis".

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TxaAk7kDTiY/maxresdefault.jpg
  112. 216 says:
    @SFG
    Hierarchical but decentralized? How would that even work? Communists had the cell technique where the cells didn't know about each other, but they had an outside controller in the form of the Soviet Union.

    A decentralized movement of local chapters, organized informally; possibly under the aegis of older established “fraternal organizations” that are top-heavy in age bracket.

    Groups would be focused on politics as a secondary concern to lifestyle matters, to encourage normal people to join and find prospects for cadre development. Also of interest would be to draw in Gen X men that never affiliated with formal organizations, to eliminate the current problem of inexperienced Millennials/Zeds that lack guidance.

    The “national organization” would be little more than a press office, and charter authors. A rotating ceremonial leadership on a state-by-state basis. My idea is to discourage people from expensive public activities, and push them in the direction of mundane local politics as a long-term strategy for growth.

    I would suggest Steve Bannon as the ceremonial leader, on background; the problem is that his main agenda is Zionism. I’m not sure of any other figures of national stature, Tucker Carlson???

    • Replies: @iffen
    I would suggest Steve Bannon as the ceremonial leader, on background; the problem is that his main agenda is Zionism.

    As soon as you solve your JQ and then your RQ, get back to us.
  113. @Rosie

    Traditionally that has been the job of women. Kind of like trade unionists wanting to keep immigrants out.
     
    We're not going to do your dirty work for you. We'll bring back slut-shaming just as soon as you bring back shotgun marriages.

    Kidnapping is a felony

    A marriage made under duress is legally void.

    Legally you cannot discriminate employment based on marital status.

    • Replies: @Rosie

    Kidnapping is a felony

    A marriage made under duress is legally void.

    Legally you cannot discriminate employment based on marital status.
     
    Go ask your grandparents how they managed it.
  114. @Rosie

    I remember people shitting on Roosh for warning “tradthots” are not trad. What a suprise. Such “tradthots” are no different to the shameles, licentious sluts one can find at the nightclub.
     
    Roosh can go straight to hell.

    A movement composed entirely of men hax literally no chance whatsoever of ever influencing the mainstream. Roosh doesn't care about that. He's not white and has no reason to care about that.

    White is not equal to Nordic. It is roughly equal to “Indo European” or “Aryan”. His ancestry is Persian and Armenian, also known as “Caucasian”.

    Terminology is important. If you mean Nordic, specify it.

    • Replies: @Rosie

    His ancestry is Persian and Armenian, also known as “Caucasian”.
     
    Persians aren't European. "Nordic" has nothing to do with it.
  115. @Reg Cæsar

    We’re not going to do your dirty work for you.
     
    It's not our dirty work. Men see sluts as employers see immigrants-- as cheap labor.

    It’s not our dirty work. Men see sluts as employers see immigrants– as cheap labor.

    Either way, we’re not doing it.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar


    It’s not our dirty work. Men see sluts as employers see immigrants– as cheap labor.
     
    Either way, we’re not doing it.
     
    Sluts are the scabs of love. Here is a celebration:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zEuaYnavwk
  116. @216
    Kidnapping is a felony

    A marriage made under duress is legally void.

    Legally you cannot discriminate employment based on marital status.

    Kidnapping is a felony

    A marriage made under duress is legally void.

    Legally you cannot discriminate employment based on marital status.

    Go ask your grandparents how they managed it.

    • Replies: @216
    One of my grandfather's brothers was supposedly killed over a relationship in the 1930s.

    Do you want us to engage in "honor killings" ?
  117. @216
    White is not equal to Nordic. It is roughly equal to "Indo European" or "Aryan". His ancestry is Persian and Armenian, also known as "Caucasian".

    Terminology is important. If you mean Nordic, specify it.

    His ancestry is Persian and Armenian, also known as “Caucasian”.

    Persians aren’t European. “Nordic” has nothing to do with it.

    • Agree: neutral
    • Replies: @216
    Finns aren't European.
    , @dfordoom


    His ancestry is Persian and Armenian, also known as “Caucasian”.
     
    Persians aren’t European. “Nordic” has nothing to do with it.
     
    He's not European, but he is white. Armenians, Persians, Jews, Arabs, are all non-European but pretty much white. If he's half-Persian and half-Armenian he'a definitely white.

    You're still of course quite free to disagree with and disapprove of him. But he is a white person.
  118. 216 says:
    @Anon
    Here are a couple of interesting (and relevant) posts on Southern from 4chan*:

    "She's a literal agent. All the pro (((southern))) shills have gone quiet since that full brown love speech she made in the EU. Despite the years we've been telling them she's a controlled op ... who gives no shits about white replacement and is feigning interest for popularity and money.

    She actually says how her opinion on it has changed since making her latest documentary and that she feels for the "refugees" now after spending time with them and that Europe shouldn't turn away good people and that many of them aren't a threat, it just needs to be legislated properly. She even said she found one of the migrants attractive. Then we have random brown people in the audience saying "You've made such great progress miss Southern!"

    Simonsen (her real name) also assists the authorities in raids on nationalist groups (GI, NA and SoO) just days or weeks after she went there with cameras and subverts her own colleagues (Faith Goldy and the South Africa scandal or the deportation and banning scandal in the UK with Sellner and Pettibone) for money and to control the narrative. She also knows the HnH leaders (directly funded by Soros and are the public face of the communist thugs Antifa) by first name as if she's personally familiar with [them] and fully aware that her gay cameraman records every conversation with pro white figures.* He and his boyfriend did meet the leaders in private hotel rooms repeatedly as well as did she. ... Caolan and the George (think thats his name) disavowed their politics and affiliations in a preprepared PDF document over the weekend saying they were radicalised by the far right and alt right. Calling it now. All 3 of them will be shilling for the left in time for the 2020 cycle."

    AND

    "It's not a coincidence those two have essentially cut her off not been seen together for almost 12 months. Lauren appears and this happens to Martin and Brittany:
    >Rapidly growing organisation
    >She gets full access to the inner workings of the organisation
    >Meets and secretly records ALL leaders and branch leaders across Europe via Caolan.
    >Martin and Britt get arrested,detained in a migrant centre and banned from the UK for "extremist views"(apparently pro ethnic European is extreme) while trying to attend the opening of GI England
    >GI Austria gets raided by authorities for "criminal activities" after evidence from a "tip off"
    >Major trial to prove or disprove GI are a criminal group (later found not guilty but new separate individual trials are ongoing)
    >GI leaders being firebombed by antifa on a regular basis in Germany, Austria and France.
    >Getting shut down by every major company. For example Martin has had 15 banks shut their accounts with him."

    https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/215898693/#q215908306

    *(1) The Milo article demonstrates that she knew the gay duo were talking to HnH and meeting with them. She could not have been unaware that the two possessed potentially damaging video on HnH opponents and might have been asked for it in these meetings. She either knew and dismissed the issue because she was a grifter only interested in money or she was directly in on it. Don't be naive.
    (2) I think it should be clear by now that these various NGOs (ADL, SPLC, etc.) are all third party proxies for the intelligence services of various state regimes. Of course, MI5/6 & CIA/FBI can't just spy on and interfere with domestic political groups, but as with the 5 Eyes arrangement, they can use a technicality to get others to do their dirty work on their behalf. That's what these groups do; they are contractors, so to speak. You're fighting the state and not simply liberals or political correctness anymore.

    The FBI, for instance, had deep links for many years with the SPLC; they often accepted information from this group that they would have been hard-pressed to collect themselves without being accused of impropriety. That's exactly what happens under the 5 Eyes arrangement where the CIA and NSA collect information on Americans through foreign groups that they can't legally collect themselves.

    Think about it. They do all the same things a secret political police service would do: infiltrate groups; build intelligence files on enemies; plant damaging information in the press to discredit enemies; secretly record dissidents; they have an elaborate spy network collecting information; they flip dissidents; they plant moles; they coordinate with financial services to ruin opponents; they use media assets to attack critics; they use third party groups to terrorize dissidents with the threat of violence; they selectively deplatform critics from the public square; they use controlled opposition to steer public opinion ...

    It’s foolish to think the problem is only one of these women. Goldy is a dumpster fire, and Pettibone has at the very least enabled Southern. The gushing praise she gave her (when knowing full well her background) leads me to suspect worse. Notice how we don’t hear anything from the other sister anymore. Sellner is a comedy of errors.

    It would also be nice to put the squeeze on Molyneux, find out if Southern traded favors to him.

    Transnational e-celebs are a bad idea for a ‘nationalist’ movement. It’s even worse when rich kids are grifting for money out of their working-class supporters.

    We have egg on our face here, for all of our machismo posturing, most of our people are thirsty beta males that are tripped up by their lack of self-control. Camgirls need to be driven out of politics, and that starts by taking a look at ourselves in the mirror.

  119. @Rosie

    Kidnapping is a felony

    A marriage made under duress is legally void.

    Legally you cannot discriminate employment based on marital status.
     
    Go ask your grandparents how they managed it.

    One of my grandfather’s brothers was supposedly killed over a relationship in the 1930s.

    Do you want us to engage in “honor killings” ?

    • Replies: @Rosie

    Do you want us to engage in “honor killings” ?
     
    I would hate to see it come to that.
  120. @Rosie

    His ancestry is Persian and Armenian, also known as “Caucasian”.
     
    Persians aren't European. "Nordic" has nothing to do with it.

    Finns aren’t European.

    • Replies: @Rosie

    Finns aren’t European.
     
    I see. You have a soft spot for Muslims don't you? You want them to come to the West and put us all in burkas.
  121. @Rosie

    Traditionally that has been the job of women. Kind of like trade unionists wanting to keep immigrants out.
     
    We're not going to do your dirty work for you. We'll bring back slut-shaming just as soon as you bring back shotgun marriages.

    We’ll bring back slut-shaming just as soon as you bring back shotgun marriages.

    So you’re in favour of shotgun marriages?

    • Replies: @Rosie

    So you’re in favour of shotgun marriages?
     
    It's a disgrace that men have to be forced to marry girls when they get them pregnant, but yes.
  122. @216
    One of my grandfather's brothers was supposedly killed over a relationship in the 1930s.

    Do you want us to engage in "honor killings" ?

    Do you want us to engage in “honor killings” ?

    I would hate to see it come to that.

  123. @dfordoom

    We’ll bring back slut-shaming just as soon as you bring back shotgun marriages.
     
    So you're in favour of shotgun marriages?

    So you’re in favour of shotgun marriages?

    It’s a disgrace that men have to be forced to marry girls when they get them pregnant, but yes.

    • Replies: @Thomm

    It’s a disgrace that men have to be forced to marry girls when they get them pregnant, but yes.

     

    It is not 1955 anymore, toots.

    Most single mothers are single mothers by choice. Many fathers want to be involved, but the woman does not want him around, since she can get his money via state mandate.

    Everything is tipped way too far against men, in the modern age.
    , @dfordoom


    So you’re in favour of shotgun marriages?
     
    It’s a disgrace that men have to be forced to marry girls when they get them pregnant, but yes.
     
    I agree with you on that.

    One of the major causes of our societal collapse was the removal of the stigma attached to illegitimacy. A lot of well-meaning but short-sighted people (including many idiot conservatives) supported this for foolish emotional reasons.

    They failed to understand that if you want a functional society you have to shame unmarried women for getting pregnant and you have to shame men for getting these women pregnant. For the sake of society the best way to deal with this problem is to pressure the parties involved to get married. If mild pressure doesn't work more extreme pressure might be needed. A shotgun can be useful in such circumstances.
  124. @216
    Finns aren't European.

    Finns aren’t European.

    I see. You have a soft spot for Muslims don’t you? You want them to come to the West and put us all in burkas.

    • Replies: @216
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/J2%28Y-DNA%29.png/1200px-J2%28Y-DNA%29.png
  125. anon[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm
    One of the reasons WN subculture has merged with 'wigger' subculture is the fact that WNs have a preference* for female obesity just like black men do.

    *I am referring to the heterosexual WNs here (60%), not the homosexual ones (40%).

    One of the reasons WN subculture has merged with ‘wigger’ subculture is the fact that WNs have a preference* for female obesity just like black men do.

    *I am referring to the heterosexual WNs here (60%), not the homosexual ones (40%).

    This might be true for the real-life alt righters, but they are minuscule minority of the movement.

    Overwhelming majority of alt-right is online only, and, judging by their taste of Japanese cartoons and real life tiny Asian schoolgirs, they are nearly exclusive pedophiles.

    This is another sign that there is nothing genuine in the movement.

    According to alt-right ideology, war is the most noble and glorious purpose of human existence. Meaning of man’s life is to fight and prepare for fighting, and meaning of woman’s life is to give birth to new warriors. The purpose of sex is to breed new strong warriors for eternal struggle, all else is “degeneracy”.
    If they were for real, the alt-right would idolize the biggest and strongest, most gorilla-like women, not “lolis”.

    • Replies: @Thomm

    Overwhelming majority of alt-right is online only, and, judging by their taste of Japanese cartoons and real life tiny Asian schoolgirs, they are nearly exclusive pedophiles.

    This is another sign that there is nothing genuine in the movement.
     
    You might be right.

    I won't accuse the online WNs of being pedophiles, though, until there is more solid evidence. I only level accusations based on the highest standards of fairness. There is overwhelming proof of the homosexuality of many WNs, and many homosexuals are also pedophiles, as everyone knows. But we need more rock-solid evidence before this accusation can be leveled fully.
    , @melanf

    If they were for real, the alt-right would idolize the biggest and strongest, most gorilla-like women, not “lolis”
     
    If you imagine special breed of girls created with the help of selection for the war, from the point of view of the physique of the body they (the perfect military girls) would look like this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y2FGG8jprE

    not like gorilla-like mutants on steroids.

  126. @Rosie

    Finns aren’t European.
     
    I see. You have a soft spot for Muslims don't you? You want them to come to the West and put us all in burkas.

  127. @Rosie

    It’s not our dirty work. Men see sluts as employers see immigrants– as cheap labor.
     
    Either way, we're not doing it.

    It’s not our dirty work. Men see sluts as employers see immigrants– as cheap labor.

    Either way, we’re not doing it.

    Sluts are the scabs of love. Here is a celebration:

  128. @Rosie

    His ancestry is Persian and Armenian, also known as “Caucasian”.
     
    Persians aren't European. "Nordic" has nothing to do with it.

    His ancestry is Persian and Armenian, also known as “Caucasian”.

    Persians aren’t European. “Nordic” has nothing to do with it.

    He’s not European, but he is white. Armenians, Persians, Jews, Arabs, are all non-European but pretty much white. If he’s half-Persian and half-Armenian he’a definitely white.

    You’re still of course quite free to disagree with and disapprove of him. But he is a white person.

    • Replies: @Rosie

    But he is a white person.
     
    Oh well, that's a relief. I guess we don't have to worry about the invasion of Europe then, since Turks, Syrians, etc. are "white."
  129. @anon

    One of the reasons WN subculture has merged with ‘wigger’ subculture is the fact that WNs have a preference* for female obesity just like black men do.

    *I am referring to the heterosexual WNs here (60%), not the homosexual ones (40%).
     
    This might be true for the real-life alt righters, but they are minuscule minority of the movement.

    Overwhelming majority of alt-right is online only, and, judging by their taste of Japanese cartoons and real life tiny Asian schoolgirs, they are nearly exclusive pedophiles.

    This is another sign that there is nothing genuine in the movement.

    According to alt-right ideology, war is the most noble and glorious purpose of human existence. Meaning of man's life is to fight and prepare for fighting, and meaning of woman's life is to give birth to new warriors. The purpose of sex is to breed new strong warriors for eternal struggle, all else is "degeneracy".
    If they were for real, the alt-right would idolize the biggest and strongest, most gorilla-like women, not "lolis".

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TxaAk7kDTiY/maxresdefault.jpg

    Overwhelming majority of alt-right is online only, and, judging by their taste of Japanese cartoons and real life tiny Asian schoolgirs, they are nearly exclusive pedophiles.

    This is another sign that there is nothing genuine in the movement.

    You might be right.

    I won’t accuse the online WNs of being pedophiles, though, until there is more solid evidence. I only level accusations based on the highest standards of fairness. There is overwhelming proof of the homosexuality of many WNs, and many homosexuals are also pedophiles, as everyone knows. But we need more rock-solid evidence before this accusation can be leveled fully.

    • Replies: @anon

    I won’t accuse the online WNs of being pedophiles, though, until there is more solid evidence.
     
    Here is example of guy called "Jim Donald". He is one of gurus and elders of alt-right, four handshakes away from Mr. Karlin, as seen on this schematic.

    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/192/975/a35.jpg

    (yes it is few years old, if you want you can count how many "leaders" shown here proved themselves to be feds, crazies or complete frauds)

    He is also open and proud pedophile.

    He was exposed, to their credit, by this neo-nazi site. Nice to see that neo-nazis have higher standards for their leaders than Catholic church.


    STRONG TRIGGER WARNING - neo-nazi site, discussion of pedophilia and child rape
     
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/jims-blog-bastion-pedophilia-normalization/

    Yes, the fact that he is posting this stuff for decades supposedly under his own name without any problems is rather suspicious. Yes, he is big supporter of Israel and big booster of Donald Trump, if you needed to know.

    , @iffen
    as everyone knows.

    No doubt this is the highest standard of all.
  130. @Rosie

    So you’re in favour of shotgun marriages?
     
    It's a disgrace that men have to be forced to marry girls when they get them pregnant, but yes.

    It’s a disgrace that men have to be forced to marry girls when they get them pregnant, but yes.

    It is not 1955 anymore, toots.

    Most single mothers are single mothers by choice. Many fathers want to be involved, but the woman does not want him around, since she can get his money via state mandate.

    Everything is tipped way too far against men, in the modern age.

  131. @anon

    One of the reasons WN subculture has merged with ‘wigger’ subculture is the fact that WNs have a preference* for female obesity just like black men do.

    *I am referring to the heterosexual WNs here (60%), not the homosexual ones (40%).
     
    This might be true for the real-life alt righters, but they are minuscule minority of the movement.

    Overwhelming majority of alt-right is online only, and, judging by their taste of Japanese cartoons and real life tiny Asian schoolgirs, they are nearly exclusive pedophiles.

    This is another sign that there is nothing genuine in the movement.

    According to alt-right ideology, war is the most noble and glorious purpose of human existence. Meaning of man's life is to fight and prepare for fighting, and meaning of woman's life is to give birth to new warriors. The purpose of sex is to breed new strong warriors for eternal struggle, all else is "degeneracy".
    If they were for real, the alt-right would idolize the biggest and strongest, most gorilla-like women, not "lolis".

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TxaAk7kDTiY/maxresdefault.jpg

    If they were for real, the alt-right would idolize the biggest and strongest, most gorilla-like women, not “lolis”

    If you imagine special breed of girls created with the help of selection for the war, from the point of view of the physique of the body they (the perfect military girls) would look like this

    not like gorilla-like mutants on steroids.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
  132. @Rosie

    So you’re in favour of shotgun marriages?
     
    It's a disgrace that men have to be forced to marry girls when they get them pregnant, but yes.

    So you’re in favour of shotgun marriages?

    It’s a disgrace that men have to be forced to marry girls when they get them pregnant, but yes.

    I agree with you on that.

    One of the major causes of our societal collapse was the removal of the stigma attached to illegitimacy. A lot of well-meaning but short-sighted people (including many idiot conservatives) supported this for foolish emotional reasons.

    They failed to understand that if you want a functional society you have to shame unmarried women for getting pregnant and you have to shame men for getting these women pregnant. For the sake of society the best way to deal with this problem is to pressure the parties involved to get married. If mild pressure doesn’t work more extreme pressure might be needed. A shotgun can be useful in such circumstances.

  133. @dfordoom


    His ancestry is Persian and Armenian, also known as “Caucasian”.
     
    Persians aren’t European. “Nordic” has nothing to do with it.
     
    He's not European, but he is white. Armenians, Persians, Jews, Arabs, are all non-European but pretty much white. If he's half-Persian and half-Armenian he'a definitely white.

    You're still of course quite free to disagree with and disapprove of him. But he is a white person.

    But he is a white person.

    Oh well, that’s a relief. I guess we don’t have to worry about the invasion of Europe then, since Turks, Syrians, etc. are “white.”

    • Replies: @dfordoom


    But he is a white person.
     
    Oh well, that’s a relief. I guess we don’t have to worry about the invasion of Europe then, since Turks, Syrians, etc. are “white.”
     
    I don't care very much about race. I don't think it's useful. In fact I think that worrying about race is counter-productive.

    I care about cultural diversity. Mass immigration destroys cultural diversity so I'm against mass immigration. I'm also against assimilation. Whether it's immigrants assimilating to the host culture or members of the host culture assimilating to the immigrant culture, either way I think assimilation is evil.

    Culture is what matters. I don't think one culture is any better than any other culture. All have a right to survive.

    I also oppose immigration because it forces wage levels down.
  134. anon[123] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    Overwhelming majority of alt-right is online only, and, judging by their taste of Japanese cartoons and real life tiny Asian schoolgirs, they are nearly exclusive pedophiles.

    This is another sign that there is nothing genuine in the movement.
     
    You might be right.

    I won't accuse the online WNs of being pedophiles, though, until there is more solid evidence. I only level accusations based on the highest standards of fairness. There is overwhelming proof of the homosexuality of many WNs, and many homosexuals are also pedophiles, as everyone knows. But we need more rock-solid evidence before this accusation can be leveled fully.

    I won’t accuse the online WNs of being pedophiles, though, until there is more solid evidence.

    Here is example of guy called “Jim Donald”. He is one of gurus and elders of alt-right, four handshakes away from Mr. Karlin, as seen on this schematic.

    (yes it is few years old, if you want you can count how many “leaders” shown here proved themselves to be feds, crazies or complete frauds)

    He is also open and proud pedophile.

    He was exposed, to their credit, by this neo-nazi site. Nice to see that neo-nazis have higher standards for their leaders than Catholic church.

    STRONG TRIGGER WARNING – neo-nazi site, discussion of pedophilia and child rape

    http://www.renegadetribune.com/jims-blog-bastion-pedophilia-normalization/

    Yes, the fact that he is posting this stuff for decades supposedly under his own name without any problems is rather suspicious. Yes, he is big supporter of Israel and big booster of Donald Trump, if you needed to know.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    Hmm....

    Pls choose a unique handle and keep promoting this message here regularly. Especially about how this is a trait that is pretty common among contemporary WNs.

    It is important to bring the light of day onto this reality.

    , @James Forrestal

    He is one of gurus and elders of alt-right, four handshakes away from Mr. Karlin, as seen on this schematic.
     
    Fact check -- FALSE.

    He's a neoreaction/ Dark Enlightenment guy. You know, like (((Mencius Moldbug)))?

    Further description of Jim (from your own link, no less):

    James Donald, writing under his real name unperturbed for as long as anyone can remember, is one of the principal founders of the aptly-named “Dark Enlightenment”. An ardent Zionist, “pedo Jim” is not himself Jewish, if his own self-testimony is to be accepted (and would you believe anything coming out of a child-molester’s mouth?), although his commentariat is disproportionately Jewish; at times, it’s entirely dominated by persons of Hebraic persuasion. That already is as obvious a Red-Flag as any that perversion is not far off.
     
  135. @anon

    I won’t accuse the online WNs of being pedophiles, though, until there is more solid evidence.
     
    Here is example of guy called "Jim Donald". He is one of gurus and elders of alt-right, four handshakes away from Mr. Karlin, as seen on this schematic.

    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/192/975/a35.jpg

    (yes it is few years old, if you want you can count how many "leaders" shown here proved themselves to be feds, crazies or complete frauds)

    He is also open and proud pedophile.

    He was exposed, to their credit, by this neo-nazi site. Nice to see that neo-nazis have higher standards for their leaders than Catholic church.


    STRONG TRIGGER WARNING - neo-nazi site, discussion of pedophilia and child rape
     
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/jims-blog-bastion-pedophilia-normalization/

    Yes, the fact that he is posting this stuff for decades supposedly under his own name without any problems is rather suspicious. Yes, he is big supporter of Israel and big booster of Donald Trump, if you needed to know.

    Hmm….

    Pls choose a unique handle and keep promoting this message here regularly. Especially about how this is a trait that is pretty common among contemporary WNs.

    It is important to bring the light of day onto this reality.

  136. @Rosie

    But he is a white person.
     
    Oh well, that's a relief. I guess we don't have to worry about the invasion of Europe then, since Turks, Syrians, etc. are "white."

    But he is a white person.

    Oh well, that’s a relief. I guess we don’t have to worry about the invasion of Europe then, since Turks, Syrians, etc. are “white.”

    I don’t care very much about race. I don’t think it’s useful. In fact I think that worrying about race is counter-productive.

    I care about cultural diversity. Mass immigration destroys cultural diversity so I’m against mass immigration. I’m also against assimilation. Whether it’s immigrants assimilating to the host culture or members of the host culture assimilating to the immigrant culture, either way I think assimilation is evil.

    Culture is what matters. I don’t think one culture is any better than any other culture. All have a right to survive.

    I also oppose immigration because it forces wage levels down.

  137. Well, the full article made for an unbelievably sordid and tedious read. If this is the calibre of rightists, I for one welcome our new Islamo-Communist overlords.

  138. anonymous[187] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Fasten your seatbelts, it begins.

  139. @216
    A decentralized movement of local chapters, organized informally; possibly under the aegis of older established "fraternal organizations" that are top-heavy in age bracket.

    Groups would be focused on politics as a secondary concern to lifestyle matters, to encourage normal people to join and find prospects for cadre development. Also of interest would be to draw in Gen X men that never affiliated with formal organizations, to eliminate the current problem of inexperienced Millennials/Zeds that lack guidance.

    The "national organization" would be little more than a press office, and charter authors. A rotating ceremonial leadership on a state-by-state basis. My idea is to discourage people from expensive public activities, and push them in the direction of mundane local politics as a long-term strategy for growth.

    I would suggest Steve Bannon as the ceremonial leader, on background; the problem is that his main agenda is Zionism. I'm not sure of any other figures of national stature, Tucker Carlson???

    I would suggest Steve Bannon as the ceremonial leader, on background; the problem is that his main agenda is Zionism.

    As soon as you solve your JQ and then your RQ, get back to us.

  140. @Thomm

    Overwhelming majority of alt-right is online only, and, judging by their taste of Japanese cartoons and real life tiny Asian schoolgirs, they are nearly exclusive pedophiles.

    This is another sign that there is nothing genuine in the movement.
     
    You might be right.

    I won't accuse the online WNs of being pedophiles, though, until there is more solid evidence. I only level accusations based on the highest standards of fairness. There is overwhelming proof of the homosexuality of many WNs, and many homosexuals are also pedophiles, as everyone knows. But we need more rock-solid evidence before this accusation can be leveled fully.

    as everyone knows.

    No doubt this is the highest standard of all.

  141. anon[782] • Disclaimer says:

    This girl was a straight up spy. Guaranteed. It’s not a coincidence that all of this doxxing of UK and Australian right-wingers happened once she and her crew got involved; that’s probably why they were meeting with HnH and were on a first name basis with them: they were likely passing acquired information to them … and they then funneled it to the police and various state agencies. Her sudden retirement – very unexpected – is nonsense, especially considering the timing of her documentary and her repeated defense of it in the media just before she learned this story was going to break. She was acting like she never expected to just up and quit like that.

    The whole thing reeks of a state agency – the targeted deplatforming to pressure a mark into flipping, the use of other people to pressure a mark into flipping, secret meetings, promises of benefits in exchange for cooperation … Probably, if you dig deep enough, you’ll find MI5 or FBI connections here, probably working through a third party proxy like HnH. Her preposterous retirement story is something the FBI would engineer to keep an asset out of harms way should anyone want to retaliate when the truth of their actions came out; the FBI did this for mob informants all the time. Has she even bothered to refute any of this? And don’t kid yourself into thinking she’s embarrassed about the slut stuff. With all the thirsty beta orbiters surrounding her, that could have ended up being water off her back. No, there is another shoe to drop here. I’m sure of it.

    “Yes, the fact that he is posting this stuff for decades supposedly under his own name without any problems is rather suspicious.”

    The US government spends millions on disinformation campaigns. Probably half the neo-nazis you meet on the internet are either informants who were never really serious about the neo-nazi thing to begin with or are government employees. Their purpose is to create a negative caricature they can argue against in order to 1) justify their employment 2) justify restricting freedoms.

  142. @BengaliCanadianDude

    It’s high IQ, successful people like me
     
    Didn't you literally admit to being middle class couple posts ago, and how you enjoyed eating scrummy tuna sandwiches in the lunchroom cafeteria, or how you love your 12 year old broken-down car?

    Success is subjective, but godamn if that isnt a low bar. No offense intended, you might really enjoy your line of work idk.

    In all honesty, I do think your IQ is probably between 110-118. Not higher, but there. Which is ok


    Oh btw NAV has a show in Montreal today. or had. Just saw his stories on Instagram. Full of whites. Just thought you might like to know

    Didn’t you literally admit to being middle class couple posts ago, and how you enjoyed eating scrummy tuna sandwiches in the lunchroom cafeteria, or how you love your 12 year old broken-down car?

    I am middle class. Middle class without being $700,000 in debt, like most of the Canadian “middle class” is. Looks are deceiving my Bangla friend.

    The whole point of that conversation was that whites don’t feel the need to flex as much as non-whites. You see people up to their eyeballs in debt, not saving any money, but hey they leased an M3 so they must be rich!

    In all honesty, I do think your IQ is probably between 110-118.

    I appreciate the honest quote. It’s close to that estimate, but slightly higher in fact.

    Full of whites.

    That’s why the white race is going extinct. I wouldn’t hold up much of what “we” do as an example nowadays.

  143. @Anonymoose
    There was also another heavily emotional narodnik female named Maria Spirodinova who was part of the Socialist Revolutionaries. The only prominent female member of the Sovnarkom was Alexandra Kollontai. Even she became obscure and irrelevant after the revolution because she had a crazy and degenerate ideology towards sex and love.

    The only prominent female member of the Sovnarkom was Alexandra Kollontai. Even she became obscure and irrelevant after the revolution because she had a crazy and degenerate ideology towards sex and love.

    That crazy and degenerate ideology — which expands upon below — wasn’t that far off from mainstream Communist ideology in the early years after the Bolshevik coup. It wasn’t until Stalin came to power that it was fully reversed. Trotsky was pretty bent out of shape about it — and a few other things, of course. Straight from the horse’s mouth:

    Lenin’s Bolshevik Party, which in October 1917 led the only successful proletarian revolution in history, understood that Soviet women would never achieve political and social equality unless they were allowed out of the stultifying isolation of the home and into the workplace. Even in the midst of a civil war and foreign invasion, the early Soviet government did what it could to socialize ‘‘women’s work’’ while instituting, for the first time in history, full legal and political equality for women. Free abortion was available on demand; dining halls, laundries and day-care centers were established, and the new regime sought to ensure equality of economic opportunity in the civil service, in industry, in the party and in the armed forces. In his 1936 book, The Revolution Betrayed, Leon Trotsky explained the aims of the early Soviet workers state in relation to women and the family:

    ‘‘The revolution made a heroic effort to destroy the so-called ‘family hearth’—that archaic, stuffy and stagnant institution in which the woman of the toiling classes performs galley labor from childhood to death. The place of the family as a shut-in petty enterprise was to be occupied, according to the plans, by a finished system of social care and accommodation: maternity houses, creches, kindergartens, schools, social dining rooms, social laundries, first-aid stations, hospitals, sanatoria, athletic organizations, moving-picture theaters, etc. The complete absorption of the house-keeping functions of the family by institutions of the socialist society, uniting all generations in solidarity and mutual aid, was to bring to woman, and thereby to the loving couple, a real liberation from the thousand-year-old fetters.’’

    Eventually the revolution succumbed to international isolation and the social backwardness of peasant dominated Russia; a conservative, parasitic bureaucracy, headed by Joseph Stalin, emerged and usurped the political power of the working class. Under the banner of ‘‘building socialism in one country,’’ the newly-privileged bureaucracy acted as the arbiter of a system of generalized want. Many of the gains for women established in the early years of the revolution were reversed. In 1934 homosexuality, which had been legalized after the revolution, was once again criminalized, and in 1936 legal access to abortion was restricted. In the course of the Stalinist political counterrevolution, women were once again relegated to the nuclear family and the provision of free domestic labor and child care:

    ‘‘It proved impossible to take the old family by storm—not because the will was lacking, and not because the family was so firmly rooted in men’s hearts. On the contrary, after a short period of distrust of the government and its creches, kindergartens and like institutions, the working women, and after them the more advanced peasants, appreciated the immeasurable advantages of the collective care of children as well as the socialization of the whole family economy.”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Trotsky destroyed Diego Rivera's "family hearth" by cucking him with his cartoonist wife. How much that had to do with his well-deserved fate, I don't know. Does anybody?
  144. @Reg Cæsar

    Rosie believes that all TRUE conservatives simply MUST oppose ‘slut-shaming’.”
     
    Traditionally that has been the job of women. Kind of like trade unionists wanting to keep immigrants out.

    Traditionally that has been the job of women.

    Well yeah — they’re the ones that enforce it. But they have to have an accepted societal standard to enforce. In the current situation, from an individual standpoint, advertising sexual availability/ attention whoring is incentivized, with no real countervailing force. Encourages a kind of race to the bottom by women, with no minimum standard.

    Kind of like trade unionists wanting to keep immigrants out.

    Funny you should say that. Maybe your analogy holds pretty well — because a lot of unions seem to be promoting amnesty/ open borders these days…

    https://www.seiu.org/cards/the-8-worst-myths-about-immigration

    Though tbh, Roosh’s message seemed to be aimed more at his (presumably predominantly male) readers — along the lines of “When it comes to politics, don’t let your thirst override your reason,” rather than an attack on e-thots directly.

  145. @Anon
    Here are a couple of interesting (and relevant) posts on Southern from 4chan*:

    "She's a literal agent. All the pro (((southern))) shills have gone quiet since that full brown love speech she made in the EU. Despite the years we've been telling them she's a controlled op ... who gives no shits about white replacement and is feigning interest for popularity and money.

    She actually says how her opinion on it has changed since making her latest documentary and that she feels for the "refugees" now after spending time with them and that Europe shouldn't turn away good people and that many of them aren't a threat, it just needs to be legislated properly. She even said she found one of the migrants attractive. Then we have random brown people in the audience saying "You've made such great progress miss Southern!"

    Simonsen (her real name) also assists the authorities in raids on nationalist groups (GI, NA and SoO) just days or weeks after she went there with cameras and subverts her own colleagues (Faith Goldy and the South Africa scandal or the deportation and banning scandal in the UK with Sellner and Pettibone) for money and to control the narrative. She also knows the HnH leaders (directly funded by Soros and are the public face of the communist thugs Antifa) by first name as if she's personally familiar with [them] and fully aware that her gay cameraman records every conversation with pro white figures.* He and his boyfriend did meet the leaders in private hotel rooms repeatedly as well as did she. ... Caolan and the George (think thats his name) disavowed their politics and affiliations in a preprepared PDF document over the weekend saying they were radicalised by the far right and alt right. Calling it now. All 3 of them will be shilling for the left in time for the 2020 cycle."

    AND

    "It's not a coincidence those two have essentially cut her off not been seen together for almost 12 months. Lauren appears and this happens to Martin and Brittany:
    >Rapidly growing organisation
    >She gets full access to the inner workings of the organisation
    >Meets and secretly records ALL leaders and branch leaders across Europe via Caolan.
    >Martin and Britt get arrested,detained in a migrant centre and banned from the UK for "extremist views"(apparently pro ethnic European is extreme) while trying to attend the opening of GI England
    >GI Austria gets raided by authorities for "criminal activities" after evidence from a "tip off"
    >Major trial to prove or disprove GI are a criminal group (later found not guilty but new separate individual trials are ongoing)
    >GI leaders being firebombed by antifa on a regular basis in Germany, Austria and France.
    >Getting shut down by every major company. For example Martin has had 15 banks shut their accounts with him."

    https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/215898693/#q215908306

    *(1) The Milo article demonstrates that she knew the gay duo were talking to HnH and meeting with them. She could not have been unaware that the two possessed potentially damaging video on HnH opponents and might have been asked for it in these meetings. She either knew and dismissed the issue because she was a grifter only interested in money or she was directly in on it. Don't be naive.
    (2) I think it should be clear by now that these various NGOs (ADL, SPLC, etc.) are all third party proxies for the intelligence services of various state regimes. Of course, MI5/6 & CIA/FBI can't just spy on and interfere with domestic political groups, but as with the 5 Eyes arrangement, they can use a technicality to get others to do their dirty work on their behalf. That's what these groups do; they are contractors, so to speak. You're fighting the state and not simply liberals or political correctness anymore.

    The FBI, for instance, had deep links for many years with the SPLC; they often accepted information from this group that they would have been hard-pressed to collect themselves without being accused of impropriety. That's exactly what happens under the 5 Eyes arrangement where the CIA and NSA collect information on Americans through foreign groups that they can't legally collect themselves.

    Think about it. They do all the same things a secret political police service would do: infiltrate groups; build intelligence files on enemies; plant damaging information in the press to discredit enemies; secretly record dissidents; they have an elaborate spy network collecting information; they flip dissidents; they plant moles; they coordinate with financial services to ruin opponents; they use media assets to attack critics; they use third party groups to terrorize dissidents with the threat of violence; they selectively deplatform critics from the public square; they use controlled opposition to steer public opinion ...

    Simonsen (her real name)

    Pic related. Not dispositive, but… interesting.

    This whole thing is a little too much gay drama — reported on by a dramatic gay, of course. Tough to tell how much is legit.

  146. @anon

    I won’t accuse the online WNs of being pedophiles, though, until there is more solid evidence.
     
    Here is example of guy called "Jim Donald". He is one of gurus and elders of alt-right, four handshakes away from Mr. Karlin, as seen on this schematic.

    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/192/975/a35.jpg

    (yes it is few years old, if you want you can count how many "leaders" shown here proved themselves to be feds, crazies or complete frauds)

    He is also open and proud pedophile.

    He was exposed, to their credit, by this neo-nazi site. Nice to see that neo-nazis have higher standards for their leaders than Catholic church.


    STRONG TRIGGER WARNING - neo-nazi site, discussion of pedophilia and child rape
     
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/jims-blog-bastion-pedophilia-normalization/

    Yes, the fact that he is posting this stuff for decades supposedly under his own name without any problems is rather suspicious. Yes, he is big supporter of Israel and big booster of Donald Trump, if you needed to know.

    He is one of gurus and elders of alt-right, four handshakes away from Mr. Karlin, as seen on this schematic.

    Fact check — FALSE.

    He’s a neoreaction/ Dark Enlightenment guy. You know, like (((Mencius Moldbug)))?

    Further description of Jim (from your own link, no less):

    James Donald, writing under his real name unperturbed for as long as anyone can remember, is one of the principal founders of the aptly-named “Dark Enlightenment”. An ardent Zionist, “pedo Jim” is not himself Jewish, if his own self-testimony is to be accepted (and would you believe anything coming out of a child-molester’s mouth?), although his commentariat is disproportionately Jewish; at times, it’s entirely dominated by persons of Hebraic persuasion. That already is as obvious a Red-Flag as any that perversion is not far off.

  147. @JAmes Forrestal

    The only prominent female member of the Sovnarkom was Alexandra Kollontai. Even she became obscure and irrelevant after the revolution because she had a crazy and degenerate ideology towards sex and love.
     
    That crazy and degenerate ideology -- which @El Dato expands upon below -- wasn't that far off from mainstream Communist ideology in the early years after the Bolshevik coup. It wasn't until Stalin came to power that it was fully reversed. Trotsky was pretty bent out of shape about it -- and a few other things, of course. Straight from the horse's mouth:

    Lenin’s Bolshevik Party, which in October 1917 led the only successful proletarian revolution in history, understood that Soviet women would never achieve political and social equality unless they were allowed out of the stultifying isolation of the home and into the workplace. Even in the midst of a civil war and foreign invasion, the early Soviet government did what it could to socialize ‘‘women’s work’’ while instituting, for the first time in history, full legal and political equality for women. Free abortion was available on demand; dining halls, laundries and day-care centers were established, and the new regime sought to ensure equality of economic opportunity in the civil service, in industry, in the party and in the armed forces. In his 1936 book, The Revolution Betrayed, Leon Trotsky explained the aims of the early Soviet workers state in relation to women and the family:

    ‘‘The revolution made a heroic effort to destroy the so-called ‘family hearth’—that archaic, stuffy and stagnant institution in which the woman of the toiling classes performs galley labor from childhood to death. The place of the family as a shut-in petty enterprise was to be occupied, according to the plans, by a finished system of social care and accommodation: maternity houses, creches, kindergartens, schools, social dining rooms, social laundries, first-aid stations, hospitals, sanatoria, athletic organizations, moving-picture theaters, etc. The complete absorption of the house-keeping functions of the family by institutions of the socialist society, uniting all generations in solidarity and mutual aid, was to bring to woman, and thereby to the loving couple, a real liberation from the thousand-year-old fetters.’’

    Eventually the revolution succumbed to international isolation and the social backwardness of peasant dominated Russia; a conservative, parasitic bureaucracy, headed by Joseph Stalin, emerged and usurped the political power of the working class. Under the banner of ‘‘building socialism in one country,’’ the newly-privileged bureaucracy acted as the arbiter of a system of generalized want. Many of the gains for women established in the early years of the revolution were reversed. In 1934 homosexuality, which had been legalized after the revolution, was once again criminalized, and in 1936 legal access to abortion was restricted. In the course of the Stalinist political counterrevolution, women were once again relegated to the nuclear family and the provision of free domestic labor and child care:

    ‘‘It proved impossible to take the old family by storm—not because the will was lacking, and not because the family was so firmly rooted in men’s hearts. On the contrary, after a short period of distrust of the government and its creches, kindergartens and like institutions, the working women, and after them the more advanced peasants, appreciated the immeasurable advantages of the collective care of children as well as the socialization of the whole family economy."
     

    Trotsky destroyed Diego Rivera’s “family hearth” by cucking him with his cartoonist wife. How much that had to do with his well-deserved fate, I don’t know. Does anybody?

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